Fuck Mira editionAttempt number 3Slav masks good, Slav filters badIf you buy commie gear put an Israeli filter on it>archived: https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/49294929/#49294929>how to put one on, 'cause 3m shill thinks you don't knowhttps://youtu.be/FSxSUhJ3Eo4 [Open] [Open] [Open] [Embed]https://youtu.be/sNIQ-U5go80 [Open] [Open] [Open] [Embed]>/gmg/ recommended maskshttps://www.ebay.com/itm/265091057539 >minor fitting required on the ultrahttps://www.armynavysales.com/israeli-civilian-gas-mask-no-filter.htmlhttps://www.armynavysales.com/israeli-gi-military-m15-gas-mask-no-filter.htmlhttps://www.armynavysales.com/new-a4-forsheda-gas-mask-respirator-no-filter.htmlhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/293508815813https://www.ebay.com/itm/264306521021>also m40s, promasks, millenniums, they'll be around $130 on ebay.40mm gost (soviet) filters are almost all dangerous40mm nato filters do seem to seal in gost (soviet) masks.https://youtu.be/g1jdB7HFfp0?t=146 [Open] [Open] [Open] [Embed]>these super cheap masks should seal for you with an msa or cff3 filter and the addition of a rubber washer if you want to gamblehttps://shop.mainemilitary.com/cproduct/30790/russian-gas-mask-no-filterhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/252107534615where to buy filters, as we roll into year two of this you may want a couple fresh ones for the wuflu, 2-3 per mask of the scott or israeli ones for gas threats.>safe 40mm nato filters>block china virus particulatehttps://www.ebay.com/itm/233745099546https://www.ebay.com/itm/274172063173https://www.ebay.com/itm/333556360050https://www.mcguirearmynavy.com/collections/best-selling-products/products/israeli-gas-mask-filter-nato-specifications-nbc-for-40mm-gas-masks-25yr-sh-life>a little expired is finethese four DO NOT CONTAIN ASBESTOSRememberIT SEALS IT FIELDS
>>50788426>MIRA advertising an unrated mask and unrated (non NIOSH compliment) GOST filter against smoke.Surely this could be brought to OSHA/NIOSH against MIRA for false advertising?Also smoke, C02 filters are a niche area not covered by CBRN filters.Report them for false advertisinghttps://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/email/oc/buyonline/english.cfm
>>50788461Just done a number on MIRAWonder if they'll get investigated
Reminder to do your homework, kids.
Wish you fellas would engage like the good'ol days.
I just finished cleaning this 3M 7800S mask I got at the swap meet for $10
>>50788426How long do standard 40mm filters last for blocking covid particulates?
Got some older filters for my m50, the man date is 2013 and check date is 2018. The container is still airsealed, are they good?
>>50791884Nice buy, what version is it though?>>50791906Technically particulate filters don't expire, keep them in a dry environment when not in use and wash the outside of the filter between each use.Check for mold Groth in the intake.
Avon M50 vs M53, proprietary filters vs NATO, which should I pick for mask nazi compliance?
>>50791921Yeah, they'll still be good, expiry dates are really just a legal thing, filters have been show effective long after their expiration, a polish study a while ago found GP5 filters from the 80s still function todaybut they still contain asbestos
>>50791937M50, cheaper and less resistance.M53 is definitely more aesthetic though
>>50791341Now that the initial rona panic is over I feel like there isn't enough people interested to keep a general going. It is a shame though, I haven't even worn my larp gear in public anymore.
>>50791951Arent the filters for the M50 more expensive though?
GAS MASK GANG, BACK IN ACTION.WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>50792062Yeah, but if you only need it for the virus the first set you get with the mask will be enough got the particulates inbuilt
>>50792089Too much going on there
>>50791921>>50791939Less than even a legal thing, more of a planned obsolescence thing. Avon filters are only stated to last 5 years even though they are stable far longer.
>>50792117I thought filters were only good for 24-36 hours depending on level of exposure?
>>50792141Particulate layers don't expire, charcoal does deplete
Probably gets asked a lot but what's an eastern bloc gas mask that won't kill me? I want SOVL
>>50791922>what version is it though?I have no idea? It says 7800S, are there multiple iterations of this mask? Also it seems to be missing a nose valve..
>>50792195Will particulate layers catch 300nm covid?
>>50792202Anything with a replaceable filter.China and Russia still produce GOST threaded masks, buy a fresh filter for either and any cheap Soviet mask you want
>>50792220https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/05/200521124646.htmAny P3 or N99 rated mask should be good enoughAn N95/P2 is still fairly decent at a 85% filtration rate for anything smaller than 300nmRemember they use static as the filtration medium, it's not a physical filter like activated charcoal
wait, what's going on with MIRA?I see >>50788461 with shady advertising, but are they peddling bad masks and shit?
>>50792493There new "CM7" mask keeps failing, hence why they haven't been released, and the more you look at it the more you'll see why, pretty sure breathing resistance and lense warping are two of the more serious issues they are having
>>50792493I'm pretty sure advertising an unrated product like this is illegal as well
>>50792446So is it easy to clean the filters on the M50? And what exactly does one do to clean the filters?
>>50792533I don't get why they keep trying to sell the the CM7 for just $10 more than the CM6. Pretty sure the CM6 actually has actual users, albeit very limited use.
I have avon M50 insertsAre there any other gas mask that work with similar inserts or glasses frames tied to an msa spectacle kit?The kit breaks the seal on my israeli gas mask
>>50792738can you take a photo?
>>50792533>>50792721Sauce on this? Would love to read more.
>>50792803These are glasses frames zip tied to the msa spectacle kitIt works and keeps its place pretty well when wearingMy gas mask keeps loosing seal on the top left corner though
>>50792871I used to duct tape and glue my frames in, but they never kept in place
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>>50792819My apologies, I'm talking their new mask CM8 or whatever>>50788461The abomination pictured here
>>50792871>Fabric harnessIs that custom?
>>50792920No, I recieved it like that
>>50792914The CM-8M is a year late for release and their social media has gone quiet on it.Not a good sign Plus Avon is advertising to civvies nowCould be the end of Mira soon
>>50792937I know one of the Chinese versions had fabric
>>50792960That would explain why it's losing seal now
>>50792973The construction and rubber don't look like the Chinese one though
>>50792984Here's another pic
>>50793019Looks like the real deal, early model I believe
>>50788426i use this on a pretty frequent basis for work and its great. should keep me safe when shtfhttps://us.msasafety.com/Air-Purifying-Respirators-%28APR%29/Elastomeric-Full-Face-Masks/Advantage%C2%AE-3200-Full-Facepiece-Respirator/p/000100000300001350
>>50793037What could cause it to begin loosin seal all of a sudden?It used to seal perfectly, but recently, it began to loose seal on my left side of my forehead
>>50793046MSA ultravue would've been preferable 40mm threading and all that
>>50793070Could the wire from the inserts be warping the rubber, or rubbing and damaging it?
>>50793111This began occuring before I placed the inserts in, but the problem did persist more when I placed the insertsI did not notice any damage to the rubber
>>50793137Do you have a weirdly shaped forehead?
>>50793171Hopefully notIf it sealed before, I do not understand why it does not seal now
>>50793197Tighten the top and side top straps harder
>>50793221I did, to the point of profound discomfortIt would eventually loose seal again
>>50792871What mask is that exactly? Sounds almost like over-tightening.
>>50793301Israeli Gas Mask
>>50793318like an m15? The voice emitter is whats throwing me off.
>>50793349https://www.ebay.com/itm/254551041912This, but it was used when i bought it
Got a better VPU
>>50793370huh, never seen one with a voice emitter inside like that. This sounds exactly like your issue to the dot. The timecode in the video should start where they describe the issue. Its with an MCU 2/ap but should describe a lot of what you are talking about.https://youtu.be/Fiz5ht6hTNA?t=1198
>>50793428to add to this, can you fully feel it not pressurizing when you do a negative pressure check? Or is it only when you are breathing?
>>50793370If that's what you actually bought then I feel bad for you. That's a Chinese knockoff of the Shalon 4a1, aka the "Isreali Gas mask". I've heard the Kyng version is pretty low quality.
>>50793438I can feel it seal when I do a pressure check, but when I let go of the mask to do stuff I feel the seal wear off>>50793463I bought it a year ago so I don't know if its the same branding because I remember buying it usedMaybe I linked the wrong one, I may have bought it from armynavysales because I recall an ebay link having masks that did not seal
Nice flag violation buddyJokes aside, what is that chunky filter?>>50793463It's a Shalin, check the drink valve, the kyng/Chinese ones have shitty chunky clampless drinking systems
>>50793490Shalon*And first part is obviously for>>50793372
>>50793487Never mind, I assumed you bought what you linked.
>>50793490Its an MSA CBRN CAP1. Really they are meant for use with a PAPR because they are so fucking huge but police agencies always buy them for some unknown fucking reason.
>>50793777Any reason they can't be used for APR?
>>50793827They absolutely can (and do) get used for general APR. Its just that they are super unwieldy and not designed around it. Imagine screwing a huge ass brick to your face, its not a super fun time. I suspect they get picked because they have pretty long lifespans until saturation.
Suggestions for non permable chemical suit?Preferably not Soviet?
Seriously need help with chemical suit
Anyone know anything about a good NBC suit?
Should I cop a mask with two separate eye pieces, or one single visor? Only info I can find is that two eye holes are marginally easier to get a cheekweld with but I feel like the single visor would be superior otherwise
>>50792493I'm also curious. I bought a CM-6 just before the wu flu, and then I kept it when the whole BLM and tear gas hullabaloo happened.
>>50792089Why's your dootbox so big?
>>50796290its an older audiopack aps. I replaced it with an msa esp II.>>50796100The om90 sux compared to most modern masks. I feel bad for you.>>50794574>>50795194>>50795504Stop triple-posting, just get a tyvek tychem suit. You can also get MOPP suits for 40 bux nos on ebay.
M65, M15, M95, M61, some GP-5 and the Chinese knockoffs that can take nato threads
>>50796949think i have a problem
>>50796949>>50796958what, english please?
>>50790285that only reminds me of how (((infested))) the school system is.
>>50797022yeah i really fucked that up. i have a M65, M15, M95, M61, some GP-5 and the Chinese knockoffs that can take nato threads
>>50797022>>50797826think i have a problem. just got the m65 for my car
>>50796013Historically two eyepieces has been more reliable too
>>50796290I'd drop the organic vapour filter for a P3
>>50796013>>507980922 eyepieces make it easier to aim. the ones with a single get in the way. weaponsandstuff93 has talked about it a few times. out of the 9 i have they all have 2 eye pieces and i dont have any issues seeing out of them
>>50798379Yeah but the Avon M50 and M53 have over come any issues with using a panoramic visor by using a soft strong polymer blend It's closer to your eyes than most dual lense masks too
>>50798473good to hear. ill have to try one of those on some time
>>50788426best gas mask for shooting and nvg? was thinking SGE 400/3 BB
>>50798778SGE failed US military trials in the 2000s, you'll want a mask with a rubber facepiece.Have you considered a M53 or C50?
>>50793490Flag code only applies to flags modified into other things. American flag printed clothes don't violate flag code as long as they weren't made from a flag you fucking mong.
>>50798847I have, the M53 was my next choice
>>50798951c50/m53 are the best for this job. M40 does a manageable job as well. The FM12 is another good choice with they way the eye pieces are set. OM90's are okish but should be avoided because of how the oral nasal cup behaves, it fogs up the eye pieces a lot.
>>50798978Alright sounds good, I plan on getting an S10, FM12, and M50 anyways, just for collection purposes, but I've been looking for the most functional gas mask, thanks.
>>50788426>millenniumsAnyone know the best place to get the complete bundle, and/or if kommandostore will restock?https://kommandostore.com/collections/msa-millennium-accessories/products/msa-millennium-complete-bundle
>>50798880That was decided by the supreme Court, not actually in the original code .Don't think the founding fathers wanted their flag on Bubba's sweaty balls
>>50792950>Avon advertising to civilians>just a IG page that is usual of major DoD contractors and with no hint of direct civilian purchaseNot a MIRA shill but still that's stretching by alot. Even the 3M new Production M40s are getting proper advertisement as "direct civilian purchasable" and not just LE/Mil only.
>>50799041Things like that come and go. I would trough ebay for milleniums, they go for about 100 dollars right now. It may or may not come with a bag, these cost about 15. Then get a voice amplifier for about 50. All of these should come with a clear lens. A tinted lens costs about 20 these days. That should be pretty much everything you need except for a glasses kit.
>>50799798only ad I could find with the bag:https://www.ebay.com/itm/303973608714?hash=item46c63d2d0a:g:UTcAAOSwVw9ghPEeonly ad I could find for the voice amplifier:https://www.ebay.com/itm/304163239850?hash=item46d18ab7aa:g:D0UAAOSwR0BgrCQW
>>50800026wait nvm I found a 15$ bag
>>50794574>>50795194>>50795504Still need an answer lads
>>50794574>>50795194>>50795504Weapons and stuff did some videos about different types of chem suits. i have an east german one but idk how well it works
also >>50800107for this >>50800142
>>50800026Here is a lens outcerthttps://www.ebay.com/itm/255109826386Here is a better deal on the maskhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/144184271109Cheaper bag:https://www.ebay.com/itm/353574809205Hope this helps you out
>>50800107I gave you an answer here:>>50796834
Any one else here use AT-105 or something similar on there mask to restore them? Ive been using it on my French MP5 mask and it gets rid of the yellowing on the visor. Just wonding if theres any longterm effects I should keep an eye out for.
ID this mask. FM?
>>50798101Its on there in the event there is an gas leak at work. Plus I use it when mixing acids>>50798778none are going to be particullary good. MSA millenium has been really comfortable to use with earpro and nods. You might need to size up your helmet to fit past the top shelf of the visor though
>>50800911How do you tell an M50 from an FM?
>>50800998I'm not planning on using NVGs with gas masks, but I want to try it out a bit so I can atleast have that capability if I really need it
>>50801300Production marking msRegardless the M50 and FM50 are the exact same mask aside from the markings
>>50800998How the fuck do you use a MSA milenium with nods?It's a bloody rubber fishbowl
>>50801887yea id love to see some pics of this as well. Im also a millennium user and ive never had much luck with it lel.
Business IdeaBuy three MCUsCut out the visorGlue them together to create a fishbowlSell as a modern art pieceProfit.Opinions?
Little off topic, but what's a good /k/ approved face mask?Something significantly lighter than a standard half mask, like a N95/P2 or N99/P3 dust mask.Or even on the unrated level, something un rated.Pic for attention
>>50791884whos meat and how much of it did you have to swap?
Wait, is my Mira mask/8 filters for $100 a bad deal now?
>>50803954That seems way to cheap to be MiraPost it
>>50797824What, the critical race theory didn't prove it to you?
>>50790285You do realize that post's bait, right?
Hey, can anyone tell me the effectiveness and safeness of Yugoslav M-1 gas masks? Ive got 4 sets in my possesion, dont know if theyre worth a damn
anyone want buy a PAPR or an AN/VD2?
>>50805910they are 60mm filters so good luck finding any. You could get a nato production filter adapter and try it out.>>50806104what blower?
>>50792871Have you considered not being a faggot that needs glasses?
What's the best gas mask for legitimate military applications? Willing to pay +$500 with no upper limit; clear communications diaphragms, easy breathing, the ability to fit NATO filters, and the ability to fit prescription lenses are absolutely essential. Negative pressure preferred for their quietude.
>>50806902The FM53 & FM54. You can find them on botach.https://botach.com/avon-fm54-air-purifying-twin-port-specialist-responder-kit/https://botach.com/avon-fm53-air-purifying-twin-port-specialist-responder-kit/If you want something that will serve you just as well but still is a bit cheaper, you could also get the c50.
>>50807067Oh and just as a note, these can actively swap between APR, PAPR, and SCBA modes.
>>50805910Ah yes the melty boys
>>5080591060mm adaptors don't fit Yugo/Serbian masks because of the thick lacquer
>>50804773It's buried in a 20mm can in the closet. I'm not really interested in dragging it out.
>>50809442Kinda pointless if it's so inaccessibleSurely you have old pics
>>50809479It's a fucking Mira CM-7M, who cares about a picture of a regular ass mask in a plastic bag?
>>50809486I'm also curious as to its markings, think they are different to OM-90?
>>50810149>It's literally Czech surplusOh my gosh, were you a early buyer?
>>50810182It's early Covid vintage.
>>50788426The fuck is it with grown men acting like teenage fucking girls? I want to fucking hit these guys in the face with a pipe wrench.
>>50788426Where to get M50 masks for Canucks? Are they even worth it?
>>50810800Just get a C4
>>50810800wait until border opens up, order to border mailbox and smuggle it over.reshippers MAY ship it, depends how lucky you get cause of ITAR
>>50810800Honest, if you can get a c4 its a better mask. I'd take one if I could get one here.
Rate my mask
>>50788426Bought a Fernez like pic rel. since my GP5 obviously isn't preferable.Did I do good /k/? Got it for like $70 AUD.
>>50814494These are really nice masks desu. A friend of mine has one and they do amazingly.
>>50814494If you are Australian you can get a lot better cheaperI know Scott M98s and Drager industrial masks pop up often here cheap,
Anyone tried 3d printing one of those wilcox purge valves yet?
>>50818740Someone did on a Facebook group
>>50789558Holy Shit Anon, You Fucking Legend
>>50816198I've never come across either of those for this cheap but I'll keep an eye out in future.
>>50792379Do any companies produce modern GOST filters, or do you have to rely on Post-Soviet sealed filters
>>50820064You can get cheap Chinese GOST filters off AliExpress, they would be safe.Otherwise you can try to get Russian ones but that's harder.Vietnam may also use GOST but they'd be far too rare to seriously consider
Found this meme shit on EtsyKinda like these bootleg filters thoughhttps://www.etsy.com/au/listing/780830306/canister-filter-for-40mm-nato-gas-masks
>>50820493That is the sketchiest thing I have ever seen
>>50820558Still probably better than a fabric mask, or those shitty Chinese organic vapour filters
>>50812598>>50812607What is this model called and how much are they?
>>50820569Probably, but who know what kind of cancer-inducing shit is crammed into those 3-D printed cans,
>>50820579Believe it's an M40 and from what i've seen they go for 100-200 bucks
What full face mask would you guys recommend that can withstand pretty noxious and corrosive chemicals like azinphos-methyl, diesel fuel/DEF fluid, ammonium chloride, sulfuric acid, and other shit? Also heat resistant is a plus. Visibility is important. I would like to have no distortion in the peripheral vision if possible
>>50821203Anything not made of silicone.
Keep this thread alive, goodnight
>>50820064There are Polish ones alsohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SoDpiHH3hg
>>50820605What mongoloid can’t rip apart old filters and tape house air filters in them?
>>50822212What is this
>>50822225My poverty mask from the pandemic. It was raining ash where I lived and you couldn’t buy real sealing masks cause of shortages so I made this. The filters had the flapper valves so I had to rebuild that. Uncharged vent filter on top, charged house air filter under it
How long do filters last? How many should i
>>50823341Depends on the environment. In low burden areas p3 filters can last months. In saturated environments a cbrn might only last 30 minutes.
I have a GP7V with a Nato filter attached like a true patrician
>>50821268Anything in particular?MSA Millennium okay?
>>50824795Yeah, but the soft lense makes me skeptical
>>50825150What would you suggest?Cost isn't much of a factor, I'll get reimbursed
>>50825846If cost isn't a factorAvon FM54 is literally peak mask designC50 is cheaper but not far offMight need second skin for the C50 though
M90 is a very under rated mask
>>50826207It's got self sealing valve
>>50822212The kind that wants a usable filter that won't give them health problems
>>50792055name of tha gas mask? (model)
>>50792055>>50792089Truck got broken into a few months back and they stole my MSA with tint and voicebox, baofengs, electric stimulation wand, amongst other things that make me question my life choices .-.
>>50793372Funny, this looks like my exact MSA, filter, and Baofeng >.>
is the m65 drager in the op from slades trades safe to use? as in safe i mean the materials in said mask and shit (i put it on right out of the box) arent going to cause cancer or be a health risk? t. ocd anon
>>50832974also are the msa 40mm 1990s particulate filters and the 2005-2013 40mm scott 3m 40mm CBRN filters safe? like the shit that makes up these filters isnt going to cause lung problems or some shit
>>50788426Does anyone make a 40mm to hydration/drinking straw adapter? I have a picrel and don't plan on running dual-filters, seems like it'd be nice to convert the other.
>>50835241Can't find a seller for the adaptor
>>50835322Does an adapter even exist? I can find voicemitters but not hydration adapters.
>>50835824It does but I don't think they are in production anymore since Scott got eaten by 3M
>>50788426Why is Mira bad?
What Avon mask should I get if I want to wear it under a helmet? I was thinking the C50.
>>50837226Any Avon mask
I have a polish mp5It came with a sealed ABEK filter.Is it safe?