Remind me again why people here hate European sport shooting? It's literally the peak of marksmanship and the final culmination of centuries of solid shooting fundamentals and firearms engineering. The rifles they use might as well be space-age technology and the sights they use might as well be gifts directly from Odin himself. Imagine if you had a squad of snipers trained with rifles like these, you could literally take entire cities with no more than a .22LR/.22WMR and precisely-aimed headshots.There's no higher art in the whole of shooting sports worldwide. Your gucci tacticool garbage has nothing on this. This isn't even a bait thread, euro sport rifle shooting really is just that superior.I dream of getting my hands on one of pic related.
>>49203231Can you concealed carry there?
>>49203249off-topic reply, ignore this
Can you defend yourself, your family/friends, and your property over there?
>>49203231your guns look funny lol
>>49203261It's aristocratic larping
>>49203285Yes we can use deady force
>>49203231They're great at what they do and I respect it, but it can't really be applied to combative tactics. They couldn't/wouldn't do what you think in an armed conflict. Thats's like saying a chess grandmaster could plan an entire offensive campaign on his own on that merit alone.
>>49203231Marksmanship skills don’t apply in combat. Bad guy isn’t gonna wait for you to get proper sight picture and do a slow pull of the trigger
>>49203261So you can't CC.What do they shoot? Surely it's something that pushes the limits of human control. Something powerful and requiring skill and self-control to tame.
She's literally perfect. Imagine skiing through the boreal forests of Outer Hyperborea with her, with nothing but your rifles and your sled. With the whisper of the gun you manage to pick off an elk with a precisely-aimed headshot, wasting not a single ounce of meat. You make camp for the night, enjoy your meal together, and sleep comfortably and warmly under the Hyperborean stars, before packing up and bringing your delicious meat back to the colony to share with your eager children.
>>49203360stop making these shit threads, seems to be a bad coping mechanism
>>49203249>>49203285>>49203301>>49203315>>49203327You will never be an epic boogalaboo operator no matter how much ammo and gear you panic buy.
>>49203401I never claimed to. I even said I respect their skill, but you literally brought up combat in your OP.
>>49203360is there a hyperborea rimfire hunting fanfic going on right now or something? actually not bad considering the usual quality of this board
>>49203231Euro sport shooting has no practical value>in college>hanging out with neighbor from europoorland>>haha anon I bet you love guns like every american steriotype haha>well yes you dumb fuck whore>>omg thats an ar is that *legal*>>can I go shooting with you???>>I used to be a competitive pistol shooter>>please anon please???>take the hoe out to the local woods with me>get out my pistol>show her the order of operations on it>>Anon where are your blinders?>>you don't shoot with a blinder??>pistol almost flips out of her hand>mfwAt least I got some free ass out of it.
>>49203517>>well yes you dumb fuck whore
>>49203231They only shoot at 10, 25 and 50 yards. Beyond that they tend get much more shitty MOA, shoot .22 at 50 meter and 100meter target, you'll see a dif in moa.
>>49203401you will never own a long rifle no matter how many shit threads you make
>>49203900Go back to pleddit gay boy
>>49203949based but don't use this so freely against americans, it's too powerful, that's like dropping a nuclear bomb, completely uncalled for, even the worst of americans don't deserve to get made fun of for this.
>>49203900You the same summer fag from the deleted thread?
>>49203360That gun is an abomination. You can clearly see how yurope aristocrats tried to make this rifle look nothing like a scary "tactical rifle" with it's little bitch scope, and retarded trigger. That gun is absolutely abysmal. I don't give a shit how accurate it is. It's not a gun, it's just a fancy pellet gun for illuminati fags.
>>49203231Its impractical. Its like asking why people dont like kung fu when MMA exists. Shooting 22 is fucking gay anyways. If you really wanna be autistic just go to a CMP shoot. At least you shoot real guns which you can use for things other than being a gay european hole puncher.
>>49203900How's it going, gay furry?
>>49203249The only place you can CC in Europe is North Ireland. I don’t know about the slav country’s though?
>>49203517Dude, I had to explain to a bunch of germans at my old job that, yes, they could keep partial boxes of .357mag at their house without a license. What a bunch of kucks.
>>49203231>European sport shootingWhy do burgurs not understand that shit like IPSC/ 3 gun exists in europe as well?
>>49203231That's an airgun for starters, but your post is a muddled mess of opinions that you're trying to pass off as facts. The biggest reason why they use small rounds and have started transitioning to airguns is because of safety and firearms ownership laws in various countries. Yeah, they're super cool guns and I'm looking into getting an anschutz for killing sage rats, but they're not the end all be all of firearms or firearm competitions. Each discipline has different requirements and techniques. I personally view the european sport shooting you're describing as the nascar of shooting sports. Everyone has roughly the same equipment, a lot of supporting gear, and they repeat the same exact form of target shooting repeatedly. Can I outshoot them? No. It just isn't fun for me to watch. There's nothing quirky or interesting about their shooting to me.
>>49203301With what? Do they still allow sharp spoons?
>>49203517Good, instill our Eurowhores with desire to embrace the gunpowder, maybe some day it'll leak over to this shitstain socialist hellhole and get us the first step towards getting our funz back.
>>49203360>>49203978>>49203991Fun bird fact. That gun is an airgun. You can see from the side markings that its a 4.5 cal pellet. Most euros shoot 10m airgun. See pic related. Their shooting is completely neutered and useless.>>49204058Mostly dominated by fins, but yes its just not common.>>49204055I think the idea of citizens being self replicating units of the state has been entirely wiped from the minds of europeans.
>>49204138Lol I actually own the gun in your post
>>49204196Pics or it didn't happen.
>>49203401Yes but I won't get throw into prison for defending my life and property from some vibrant crackhead
>>49204453more? it's a girl right?
>>49204692It's a cartoon, does it matter?
>>49203231I dont think anyone hates it anon. No one cares. Its sort of a cultural matter.If we were to create a mostly accurate picture of europeans and americans, here it is.Europeans very much enjoy refinement, peaks, skill, nuances, becoming a master of one's field and craft and standing above your peers with either their disdain or admiration in triumph. There is much to be appreciated in that.Americans enjoy motion, savagery, displays of power, extremes, and exceeding past one's standing at any cost and triumphing past imposed boundaries.Look at sport shooting vs 3 gun vs distance shooting.Look to F1 and Rally vs Nascar and Top Fuel drag. In the end its all the same, men sit atop broken machines; shattered in the pursuit of excellence. The journey was just different, but at the end of the day...some people just don't give a damn about what doesn't interest them.I think there is a lot of joy in understanding it all, and even appreciating it. Rallycross is a patrician man's sport. Group B deserved better.
>>49203952Yes, we know you think you're totally the smug little girls from your cartoons.
>>49205284that is the sound...of nothing. It is the sound of not a single fuck given. Do you hear it anon? People will keep posting anime reaction images. You can't come in and subvert the board, or make any meaningful impact. It's ok. Low hanging fruit and small battles.
>>49204042Estonia and the Czech Republic at least
>>49203360>She's literally perfectweak chin and jaw
>>49203231Amusing that the Jannies pruned my post involving mortars.
>>49203231>EUROPEAN sport shootingFuck off, you don't own this shit. We have the same thing here. We're coming in Tokyo, Thrasher won in 2016.
Another false flag thread by a nogun op
>>49203517>Euro sport shooting has no practical valueI respectfully disagree.I thought these old farts shooting pellets at 10m were boring, but it was part of the mandatory formation at my shooting range in order to shoot with bigger stuff, and it made me a much, much better shooter. To the point I continued shooting pellets long after I bought everything from Glocks to AR15s.It's dry firing on steroids, it's basically laser accurate at 10m on an inside range, and if you miss your target, it's because you fucked up, there can be no "it's the gun's fault!", it makes identifying your mistakes much easier, while recoil blurs your perception. The only difference is indeed recoil, but that's something that's very easy to learn to handle.
>>49205577You’re either a closeted homosexual or a G*rman. Real women aren’t supposed to have strong chins.
>>49203231It’s the peak of pretentious lack of realism. While .22 truly is an effectively lethal round, the marksmanship is tactically worthless. 3 gun competitions are how you gauge real world combat readiness, no enemy will wait while you autistically aim through your horse blinders while wearing your Thunder Shirt.
>>49205954>3 gun competitions are how you gauge real world combat readinessYou would have to be a complete tard to think this, if anything "practical" shooting is even more pretentious because larpers like you pretend its muh combat training when it isn't.
>>49205980IPSC has it own issues but it's more practical. It introduces muchst stricter time limits (not in the best form but better than nothing.More relevant equipment (sights)And more relevant stances. Super accuracy from standing is rarely needed. IRL people "cheat" fro long range shots, bracing over barricades, going prone or using bipods. This is practical.
>>49203249In Poland it is required, more or less, if you really fancy having your gun near you.
>>49203231>European sport shootingAsk me how I know you're an American shitposter
I personally think it looks boring and tedious and .22lr isn’t as fun as shooting my Aks or Ars or milsurp or what have you.
Since it’s the peak of marksmanship let’s see who groups better at a short range say 200 meters you with your BB gun or me with my SVD.
>>49206476milsurp competitions exist
>itt: anons judging things they know absolutly nothing about and have never tried for themselves.Identical mindset to anti-gunners.
>>49203231probably cause it's YOUR A PEON. sage
>>49203249In France yes you can. Not anyone can but when i was in Guyane i was asisted by the military and gendarmerie to arrest illegal gold diggers and to collect dept from brazilian that were established in Guyane. Since i had a treat on my life i asked for it and they gave me a mac50 with 100 rounds and 2 magazines that i coulf conceal or open carry.
>>49206798>In France yes you canNot on the mainland. Technically you can but you will never get a CC permit unless you work security or you're a jew.
>>49206810Yeah i know that. I mean one of my friends that work in Marseille told me that they gave him a bulletproof vest and a beretta pamas when he needed to give court notice to some drug dealers. Honestly if you work in laws/banks/security/gold-jewelry/news just ask for it they often give it away because nobody ever ask for it.
>>49206810Honestly i felt like a arms dealer in monrovia. I had an old handgun that ran perfectly, a cheap suit, i was followed by parachutiste that had to wear their red beret because one of their officer wanted them to look professional even if they were forced to carry old ass smg because of lack of budget. I rode in a P4 in the hot and humid jungle sun. Neggers were everywhere and angry. The driver was drunk. It was a blast.
>>49203517Yeah this has totally happened.And if it did, you blew your chance like the total sperg you are.
>>49204775>actually taking the time writing an honest and thoughtful postYou're wrong here, this is the trolls trolling trolls and underage edgelords thread
SOMEONE POST THE WALTHER CUTIE
>>49206582Why would i pay 1200$ for a bb gun when i could buy an ar thats way more fun, can use for fighting and can accurize for 800$?
>>49206848Thats actually pretty cool
>>49204023Anime fans are more likely going to be furries anon.>>49203952See?Now, fuck off faggots.
So all you do is shooting tin cans at 7yards?Pathetic.
>>49203249You can in Germany and the Czech Republic
>>49207069Germany? Nope.The required license for that is impossibru to get.
>>49203327You will never be a civil war veteran
>>49207048The fuck are you talking about?
>>49207070Regards>t. license holder
>>49205933People here think that shooting is only for "training" for some ridiculous civil war fantasy they have that is totally unrealistic if a civil war ever did happen (it won't)
>>49207076Waffenschein für Privatpersonen?I doubt that, but sure why not it will be no problem to show me your Waffenschein with a timestamp as you have this document at your hand all the time.
>>49203231>This isn't even a bait threadGuys I think it’s bait
>>49206521Let's see you and a professional biathlete go at targets with a .22 from 50 metres standing.
>>49203231The rifles just look awful.
>>49203249You can CC in Slovakia and Czechia. Dont know about others.
>>49203285In Slovakia and Czechia, so far yes. Cant guarantee it will last more than 5 years in the future of EU yoke.
>all this finely machined stainless steel adjustable faggotry for 3.4 MOA at 50 metersHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAH
>>49207136you do realize they have been skiing 5km as fast as possible just before they go to the shooting range?
>>49207136target size =/= group sizeI hope you knew and you're just pretending to be retarded
>>49203231>Remind me again why people here hate European sport shooting?Because the shooting itself is far removed from practical shooting which /k/ seems to adore, because the ISSF community can be quite toxic and because most of /k/ can't be arsed to train enough to participate at a competitive level. I can understand all of these points to some degree, although I think it can be fun, I especially enjoy ISSF air pistol because it's relatively cheap, easy to practice at home and teaches fundamentals really well.>the sights they use might as well be gifts directly from Odin himself. Although I can print cloverleafs with diopter/globe sights (off a bench), they are not the best tech out there in terms of sighting systems. Scopes are much better, diopter/globe exists to keep a level playing field (and be the sexiest form of iron sights).>Imagine if you had a squad of snipers trained with rifles like these, you could literally take entire cities with no more than a .22LR/.22WMR and precisely-aimed headshots.No. First of all, true ISSF shooters will literally start crying from the highly excessive muzzle blast of .22WMR, and second: they don't know their holdovers for .22LR beyond 50m, because that's the longest distance used in ISSF smallbore competition.>I dream of getting my hands on one of pic related.So do it. It's not as if they're hideously expensive by precision rifle standards, that looks like a Walther so you can get one for 3K tops, assuming you don't need an electronic trigger or their fancy new Monotec. Second hand and entry level models can be had for much less, and if you really want to cheap out: buy an AR20. They're more accurate than you are.>>49203315Shooting fundamentals always apply.
>>49203335Lmao Czechia is far more based than most US states you fucking fat retarded faggot
>>49203249In Italy? If you got a special loisence
>>49203315>but it can't really be applied to combative tactics.Why does everything have to be about combat to you tards?
>>49203978>little bitch scopeLol, it's not even a scope.>and retarded triggerHave you ever used a properly adjusted match trigger like that? Dear god it's good. Like, less than an ounce, crisp like fuck, breathe on it, mental connection to your brain, good.>>49205933>To the point I continued shooting pellets long after I bought everything from Glocks to AR15s.>It's dry firing on steroids, it's basically laser accurate at 10m on an inside range, and if you miss your target, it's because you fucked up, there can be no "it's the gun's fault!", it makes identifying your mistakes much easier, while recoil blurs your perception.This. If you have the disposable income to buy a 10m PCP air rifle or pistol, do it, because they are great for teaching fundamentals to yourself and others.>>49206521Fun fact: since some Yuro countries are very restrictive on real guns but air guns are free game, and people always want to do long range shooting, long range airgunning is now a thing. At 200 meters against an SVD the latter may come up short.>>49207048Here's the proper solution: when you have 2000USD, why not buy both?
>>49203231> Shoulderpadding for .22
>Live in an actually civilised country>Don't have to worry about how hard my guns kill people
>>49207286Unless you live in Japan or Greenland stfu
>>49207317>Americans seething alreadylmao
>>49207087Waffenschein für Privatpersonen is easy. Just join your local mosque, then renounce islam and post on a blog about it. Death threats will come to you and that should be enough to allow you to cc. > mfw Bundestagsabgeordnete get the Schein by defaultDid you know Claudia Roth ccs a Walther PPK? uses VIP clearance at airports to get it past security too.
>>49207378Also hast du keinen und pfostierst hier nur Bullshit und Stammtischparolen
>>49207281That's for stability not recoil
*Laughs in Stang shooting*>magdump as much as you can on target within 25 seconds in 2 stages https://youtu.be/4cnAwRJc7Sw
>>49207165>Called practical shooting>Is entirely based around preparing for things that will never actually happenWhat did they mean by this?
>>49207426Nooooo that's not possible, yuropeons can't own guns that aren't 22lr
That's nice anon. At least you have something. If you ever come out to the states I'll show you how to reach out and touch something.
>>49207201>since some Yuro countries are very restrictive on real guns but air guns are free gameMany countries have restrictions on airgun power, requiring loicense.Not as restrictive as powder burners but still.
>>49207488Name one euro country where people can't own that rifle
>>49203231Good luck using that abomination for anything else. Using those guns is a useless skill because the damb things break if you bump them on a table.
>muh euros dont do any practical shootinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT267QQA0Sc
>>49207066Fuck off, gay furry
>>49207650That's clearly the savage American style of shooting.
>>49207650Looks John Wick tier "practical"
>>49207409Just use your muscles then, or use a different stance.
>>49203231Suck a fart nerd
>>49206798Guyane is not in france.
>>49206848I do shit like that nearly every day. Except for the parachutiste and I am often the drunk driving myself around.
>>49205933In the USA every red blooded American child gets a bb or pellet gun before a double digit age, if not a .22 rifle. You fuck around with it, building familiarity over a few years until you start firing centerfire firearms. So you aren't wrong at a technical level, but what you 3urocucks do at 25 Americans get bored with as an 8 year old. Centerfire pistol is dead in your leagues and that is why you're considered cucks who have lost all martial spirit in your shooting sports. When your actual "guns" are banned and you're forced to shoot laser tag you'll thank daddy government. No American kid, much less an adult, gives a shit about 50 yard small bore when you can buy a precision rifle and compete with the men at 1000 yards. No one wants to shoot 15m airgun when you can buy a ruger 22/45 or buckmark and shoot it on a reactive digital gun range or plink cans on your own terms.A decent shooter with real guns does pretty well in cucked shooting sports; all the variable minimization works for them too. Someone who has only shot an airgun has no practical ability to shoot anything else.
>>49208257>Someone who has only shot an airgun has no practical ability to shoot anything else.t. never went from airgun to anything elseThere's a huge difference between plinking with a BB gun and a proper precision air rifle, especially so when you are shooting for competition. Centerfire pistol is far from dead, if anything, in any relevant global pistol shooting us Yuro's have been coming out ahead (ISSF, dynamic, long range).>No American kid, much less an adult, gives a shit about 50 yard small bore when you can buy a precision rifle and compete with the men at 1000 yards.Go talk to the actual pros who know how to compete in F-class or Palma. The latter people especially will tell you how valuable dry fire and smallbore practice is.>A decent shooter with real guns does pretty well in cucked shooting sportsNo, because usually their fundamentals are lacking.
>>49208307Of course I have, as a child Because these are toys from our perspective. You don't need a $3000 Walther toy to practice handgun fundamentals against a 15m target. And if you can't shoot with a non match trigger at the end of the day you're the one hamstrung, not the American 9 year old.>well appeal to authority Blow it out your ass m8 Americans fuck around with .22lr at 50-100 yards for hunting and plinking more than you. We just recognize rimfire for what it is. 50 meter smallbore is a boyscout competition for middleschoolers. Centerfire pistol is dead internationally, the guns and calibers banned in most of your countries, and abandoned in the US because of better leagues with real guns. (IDPA and three gun)
>>49208359It's like how in the USA soccer is a game for women and children while in the rest of the world it's something grown men take seriously.
>>49207700And how is that different from the practical shooting americans are always going on about?
>>49203231I'd outshoot her in a gun match or in a realistic paint bullet match. For my reward, she would have to let me lick her cheek and let me fuck her rectally.
>>49208359I'm not just appealing to any authority, I'm appealing to the authority of US pros. Any F-class, Palma, High Power shooter, you name them, if they've got a good ranking you can bet your ass they know the value of smallbore practice. Just so happens to be you're not one of them.>Centerfire pistol is dead internationallyLolno, what gave you the impression?>the guns and calibers banned in most of your countriesOnly a select few Yuro countries ban specific calibers. They do not ban specific firearms, and then people get smart, such as in Italy with 9x21mm. The only relevant place outright banning pistols is the UK.
>>49208414That's what I mean, same thing. It's cool I guess but it's nowhere as practical as larpers want to believe.
>>49208156>just do Xwow you're a genius, your shelves must be stacked with trophies
>>49203292This. And Gaaaaaaaaay.
>>49205980How is it not? Watch the Police Activity youtube channel. Real engagements are usually under 10 yards with obstacles, hallways, doorways, etc. Rapid acquisition and firing is key. These shooting competitions involve putting on pounds of stupid leather shooting suits and vision blocking flags and all this other shit you could NEVER use in a real combat scenario. If you can't aim and fire a given accuracy in under a second, it's useless outside of a sniping situation on a non-aggravated/aware target, which is not something a civilian would ever have a need to do. Even olympic pistol rapid fire is worthless because it's just smoothly panning across 5 targets, there's no randomness to it where you have to react. Olympic shooters may as well just get together and just play a target shooting game on the Wii.
>>49208257Nice talking out of ass, man.Here practically every household has an airgun which kids love to shoot.
>>49208631If people wanted to shoot niggers from 7 meters they'd join the police. Shooting sports are about something else.
>>49208426>no longer in the Olympics >fragmented >just shoot .32s&w bro the government won't let us have modern calibers >will be banned, along with your scary air guns, when they mandate lasers to stifle that little spark of remaining masculinity out of the euro Like I said, we shoot rimfire more than you. Muh fundamentals doesn't mean much if you can't shoot an actual rifle too. 50 meter slow fire with a .22 isn't a competition in the USA, it's something you do because .22lr was 7cpr and you're alternating between it and your actual rifle set out to a couple hundred. Cope, seethe, and Sneed all you like, the elitist autism of airgun cucks doesn't change the material fact your sport is relegated to youth shooting in countries with actual culture.
>>49208684>no longer in the OlympicsNo one cares.>just shoot .32s&w bro the government won't let us have modern calibersYou know nothing.
>>49208631Why does everything have to revolve around combat scenarios and shooting people? What do americans find so offensive about just shooting for the sport of it?
>>49208679>Shooting sports are about something else.Chugging dicks?Olympic shooting isn't even *fun*. Strapping into your straight jacket and aiming for a full minute between shots sounds lame as fuck. Running through a 3 gun course popping every target that pops up is way more intense and engaging.
>>49207194>>49207442>>49208732Americans actually use their guns for more than just sport.
>>49208864You sound like a deficient zoomer. Do whatever you like no one cares.
>>49208732>>49208747Video game generation? What do you all think guns are for? They weren't invented to punch paper, they're the de-facto weapon of every military ground force since their invention. Shooting competitions were invented to identify marksmen for applications in the military, not to say "tally ho!" and punch paper forever. Guns were invented to kill offensively or defensively, period. If you have no interest in using a gun for self-defense then just play darts or something.
>>49208732Because your "sport" is literally what 12 year old's do in this country so it isn't very impressive or interesting. I can literally walk into my backyard and shoot hundreds of yards in any direction with any caliber I want. Why the fuck would I waste my time with a glorified pellet gun?
>>49208878You don't use your guns at all because ammo is too expensive for you.>>49208884Room temp IQ
>>49208902I have tens of thousands of rounds that I am able to shoot so try again europoor.
>>49208897Get a clue https://competitions.nra.org/competitions/nra-national-matches/national-smallbore-rifle-championships/
>>49208914lmao is that supposed to prove something?
>>49208931You retards act like smallbore shooting is exclusively European, and like there are no other shooting sports in Europe. This shows you're wrong.
>>49208950>Smallbore rifle is done in the US ha checkmate By youth shooting organizations and groups like 4h and the boyscouts. The fact these organizations haven't converted over to IDPA and 3gun is a large part of why organized shooting sports amongst children is on the decline. No one wants to join the JROTC and shoot a pellet rifle like a cucked European when they have a free floated AR15 at home they shoot all the time.
>>49203231>noguns copemany such cases
>>49209291You're completely clueless not only about Europe but even about your own country. Sad really.
https://youtu.be/Ae5q27BFAvIYou need to see it in action to truly appreciate how epic it is and how skillful you have to be.
>>49203231No one hates it. They just don't care about it.the opposite of love is apathy, after all
it's almost as if there's a wide variety of shooting sports that are enjoyed by many different people
>>49208684>>no longer in the Olympics Which aren't organised by the ISSF but by the IOC, which means they are more than happy to ditch long expensive ranges in countries that aren't happy about guns. That's not a Yuro thing, that's a global thing, even including the US.>>just shoot .32s&w bro the government won't let us have modern calibers The vast majority of centerfire handgun is 9mm here, not .32S&W. If you think .32S&W is used because it's the only caliber allowed, think again: it's used because it's a low-recoil rimmed cartridge which is not sensitive to the use of wadcutters, basically making it ideal for rapid fire pistol. It's almost as if you don't compete, you'd know these things otherwise. Even in the US it's the most popular cartridge for bullseye (apart from .22 and .45).>>will be banned, along with your scary air guns, when they mandate lasers to stifle that little spark of remaining masculinity out of the euroYou have no idea of European gun culture, it's much more than ISSF shooting. There's dedicated gun ranges for everything from long range to pistol to dynamic shooting, there's schuetzenvereine (there is no US equivalent), and don't get me started on German hunting culture.>Like I said, we shoot rimfire more than you.Doubt it, given that a single election can dry up your supply of regular .22LR while match grade sits on the shelves.>Muh fundamentals doesn't mean much if you can't shoot an actual rifle too.Muh fundamentals are absolutely critical to shooting properly with an actual rifle.
>>49209291>Had a break open pellet gun when I was a kid that I used to use all the time, sold it when I left country for school>came back and didn't care for guns for a while>Suddenly got the itch at 30 with family and assets>applied for firearm license which is hard to get in my country>Could hardly wait so grab red ryder that I hoped would satiate my itch>Was bored after the first few shots>Borrowed a friend's hunting air rifle>Still boring>Soon as got my firearm license I never cared to look back at a pellet or bb gun ever again>Happy punching holes with a glockThere is something else about using a tool that has some power. Like the difference between a 1.4l french econo box or a V8 sports car. Or even a hammer drill vs a rotary hammer. It's just more fun to use something more effective most of the time.
>>49208684>youth shooting in countries with actual culture.Lol, implying that the US has culture, nevermind shooting culture. My shooting club was founded in 1848, when they split off from the neighbours, founded in 1353, presumably as an archery militia. There is no such shooting culture in the US.The biggest shooting event in Europe I know of is the EST, with something like 12000 shooters attending and about 100K visitors depending on the year. According to my research, the biggest shooting event in the US is either Big Sandy or Knob Creek with a couple thousand attendees (rookie numbers) or Las Vegas (58 active attendants).
>>49208878You will never be a civil war veteran
>>49209563>100K visitors depending on the year.What do they even go there for?
>>49209651Watching the event, looking at guns, talking about guns, drinking
>>49209673>>49209651>Watching the event, looking at guns, talking about guns, drinkingThis. You know, culture.
>>49209457>how epic it ispfffhahahahahaha
>>49203327Unless you're a concealed sniper, but once you start shooting they will take cover and start looking for you.
>>49203231I think it's pretty lame but I think that has more to do with the attire than anything else. That said I too would love to get my grubby mitts on one of those rifles, they seem pretty rad
>>49209342Your gay discipline is if anything single handledly responsible for the decline of organized school and youth shooting over the last 50 years in the USA. No one does it willingly and your rule structure and faggotry actively disincentivize practical shooting fundamentals due to sporterization. It's an already declined sport relegated to children's summer camps. >Inb4 the internet says adults do it too You'd be hard pressed to find any in a country with more guns than people. The first and last time most Americans bother with organized slowfire 50m rimfire or air rifles is before they hit puberty. They then just shoot guns. >>49209510>It's popular in your discipline because you aren't a free man and your country bans "Military" calibers dating back to the 19th century ftfy German hunting culture is gay larping. You get drunk and shoot representative targets of your whinigger ancestors getting drunk and shooting birds out of trees. Something so unsporting from the US perspective you'd be arrested in most states attempting it. German hunting culture is white trash behavior given the thin veneer of muh 3-500 years of history. Get over yourselves eurocucks.
>>49209815>No one does it willinglyWrong, as is the entirity of this post.
>>49203231it's all just gucci'd out air rifles. competitive target shooting should be with firearms that are actually used in combat or hunting. sure those things look nice and can be precise with tiny ass pellets, but i wouldn't carry that in the woods because if i bump it against a branch or a fuckin twig it's either gonna break or lose it's zero lol
>>49203231It's because it's FUCKING BORING.
>>49209678>>49209673But not shooting the guns? Curious
>Thread about guns in europe>instantly gets derailed by americans getting angry at their own strawmenWhy do we let them on this board?
>>49209879That's what the shooters do. Duh.
>>49209510The fundamentals of shooting a $3000 highly tuned air rifle apply to shooting a $80 spring gun bought at a Walmart. That plus a few years with a real gun and you might be proficient in that too. In your eurobong sporterization autism you entirely miss the point and martial history of international rifle and pistol shooting. You use open sights because they are supposed to be service sights. You shoot unsupported and standing because it's supposed to apply to the real word as seen by the 19th century spirit of the sport you've abused so thoroughly. Diopters, .00000001lb triggers, smallbore entirely, blinders, rigged support jackets. >Just brace it to the table you massive fucking faggots. When local national and international competition finally forces Lasers for (((muh pure skill))) you'll gladly turn in your toy bb gun for lasertag and claim it a necessary lauded improvement and not the death of your discipline.
>>49209563So essentially, Europe has one big event where everyone congregates to, while the US has so many shooters and shooting events it makes no sense to have a get together.
>>49204042You can conceal carry in Poland if you get Sport Weapon Licence (sic!). They use a word "carry" (nosić) in that licence, while others use term "tranport" (przenosić). They did it on purpose so you can defend yourself if someone tries to steal your guns- if you let that happen you will face several punishment, so you are allowed to concealed carry to defend yourself- that's what I was told by some police commissioner. Of course they also have "Self Defence" licence, but in reality you cannot really get it (I was told even Judges who got threated by mafia were rejected).
>>49204775Agreed, group B got done dirty and rally is criminally underrated around the world. Also I guess your word view is correct I guess
>>49208232Guyane is France. Its a domtom.
>>49208878I guess you are right suicide is only a sport in Japan so far
>>49209815I don't practice smallbore, I only shoot 22lr for cheap fun. You can keep crying about it all you want but competitive smallbore is not strictly European and there's a big scene in the US as well.You know nothing.
>>49209924>The fundamentals of shooting a $3000 highly tuned air rifle apply to shooting a $80 spring gun bought at a Walmart.No they don't, have you ever tried to shoot the bullseye of a 10m air rifle target with a springer? They recoil forward due to inertia, completely different to PCP guns and actual rifle. Even if they didn't, 100 EUR might teach you some but the rifle's accuracy quickly becomes the bottleneck of performance. For 1000EUR you can easily buy a simple Hammerli or CZ that will outshoot most mortals. If that seizes to be the case, you start applying for national championships.>In your eurobong sporterization autism you entirely miss the point and martial history of international rifle and pistol shooting.You don't understand competition shooting. Do not try to explain international shooting competitions without doing so. It's done to create a level playing field - everytime I hear some US shooter come into precision shooting threads HURRDURR SERVICE RIFLES SHOULD BE USED FOR BIATHLON DURR most sensible people tell them this is a stupid idea because it rewards people with good service rifles, not good shooters. The way high end shooting is done nowadays is by removing all material and physical advantages reducing the competition to shooter skill.>When local national and international competition finally forces Lasers for (((muh pure skill))) you'll gladly turn in your toy bb gun for lasertag and claim it a necessary lauded improvement and not the death of your discipline.Fuck no. I'm not just an air shooter, I also do big bore and silhouette matches, even if they do come for those it will certainly not be done gladly and not be considered an improvement.
>>49209976>group BWas so epic, but current WRC is also crazy fast. These aero regulations and these 1.6 engines are fast af. That's actually pretty cool comparison between EU and US- small, light and efficient engines vs heavy loud ones.
>>49209924If you had any clue about shooting sports in Europe you wouldn't get so mad at literally nothing.
>>49209947The EST is far from the only event, there's plenty of other competitions outside of traditional shooting, it's just that those are the biggest by the numbers of shooters and visitors. In most of western Europe there's grassroots events with something like 100-200 shooters, I'd say hundreds of them every year, in traditional shooting alone. I can think of a couple dozen near me in a 50km (30 mile) radius.
>>49209947No. Each country has plenty of events in various disciplines.
>>49203231>peak marksmanshipDude there is people hurtling projectiles 3000 yds
>>49209947>Europe only has one big eventLolno. To get an idea: The Dutch shooting association (KNSA) has a list of disciplines:>https://www.knsa.nl/media/1152/totaaloverzicht-knsa-gereglementeerde-disciplines.pdfCan't be arsed to count them all, but it's five pages worth of really small lines. Every single line is a KNSA-organised match, which means at least three matches are organised every single year, but some, such as air pistol and air rifle, are so common you can attend one every single week somewhere in the country.To put this into perspective: that's one (rather unpopular) shooting association in a very strict antigun country with a population just shy of the state of New York while being a third of the size in terms of land.
>>49210080>Dude there is people hurtling projectiles 3000 ydsLast time I watched king of X miles they missed most of their shots.
>>49210080>>49210223Note that ELR is extremely popular in the Scandinavian countries and even the French organise a KO2M event.>But muh Yuros only shoot gay air rifles!
>>49210053>>49210040I think the humor didn't come across. Reducing the US shooting to Big Sandy or Knob Creek is ridiculous.I haven't paid attention to the airsoft scene but the best analogy I can come up is that Europe has Berget as the big fucking event, while the US has Milsim West events, Lion Claws, in the 2010s there were the Tim vs Bob events, etc.
>>49210080That's even more dependent on equipment
>>49210242>extremely popular in the Scandinavian countriesI know, I saw some photos from a LR event in Norway, epic terrains.
>>49210259You're not the only one missing the humor.>According to my research, the biggest shooting event in the US is [...] Las Vegas (58 active attendants).
>>49210242I didn't say shit about what country dipshit.
>>49210220>Europe only has one big eventNice strawman retard. How about actually trying to figure out what people are saying instead of fishing for gotchas?
>>49210284fuck you lmao
>>49209947LMAO you must be a descendant of citizens of country Nigeria.BLM LMAO
>>49203915If you can hit a man sized target center mass with three shots quickly and without needing to slowly aim, you're more valuable as a fighter than someone who can put three on a dime in a relaxed setting.
>>49210010>Bu...bu...bu... then you're competing on rifle (of national origin) not entirely individual skill!When your country had pride that was part of the point. How far you've fallen.
>>49209815>German hunting culture is gay larping. You get drunk and shoot representative targets of your whinigger ancestors getting drunk and shooting birds out of trees. Something so unsporting from the US perspective you'd be arrested in most states attempting it.>German hunting culture is white trash behavior given the thin veneer of muh 3-500 years of history. Get over yourselves eurocucks.As is tradition, American 'education' at work. Did you get your knowledge from skimming a times article years ago or form the discovery channel?
>>49210401Countries with pride actually fielded their rifles. Then countries without started accurizing their service rifles to get better scores. There is nothing worthy of pride to win in such a playing field, best make sure everybody has the same chance and it's the athletes and their training that determines who gets the prizes. Take a look at High Power competition, there's nary an actual combat ready AR there, they're all tricked out within certain rules to make sure they still look like combat rifles but they aren't. Have you ever held one?
>>49204055Germans usually don't even know it's possible for Germans to own guns in Germany...
>>49210010>have you ever tried to shoot the bullseye of a 10m air rifle target with a springer
>>49210331Your ESL is showing.
>>49210010Anon as a wise man once said, "Don't feed the trolls." I used to argue in these threads as an American that shot ISSF at a very high level. Most /k/ommandos will never understand. Its not worth effort to argue.
>>49203231who says we don't like sport shooting?/k/ likes all shooting. The racist trolls from /pol/ that have turned /k/ into garbage only care about their garbage, the rest of us want to discuss >Weapons
>>49203327BasedYour marksmanship crap is useless while your under attack and your ultra-light firearm gets damaged in the middle of a fire fight or you get dirt/mud or water in you gucci pea shooter
>>49209563>we can trace our roots through our ancient fud clubShooting to Americans is like drinking water. Sure people congregate for water based events and sports, but does anyone really show up to a water drinking contest? Maybe in a desert where drinking too much water is a crime.
>>49203952[Monstergirl Encyclopedia Damage Report ~Cheshire's Welcome to Wonderland~]
>Shooting is all about killing peopledo americans really?
>>49211291>t. has never been to the U.S. and has no conception of the hunting culture here whatsoever
>>49211291Children and boomers mostly
>>49203231Their performance is amazing, but these people are more athletes than shooters. Their expertise lies in stance, performance, controlling breath/heartrate, i.e., the basics an athlete of any precision sport must master.If you ever watch them in an interview, they don't seem like they have the slightest interest in the firearms aspect of their sport.
>>49207169Non sequitur. You ran out of arguments and proceeded to mudsling adhominems. Take five and try again.
>>49203231there's more to sniping than just raw marksmanship, neverserved
>>49203231Its overly optimized. It would be cooler if they had to wear civilian clothes, no weird eye gear and use like a cz .22 rifle with stock irons
>>49203231I think the difference lies in the fact that we see them as weapons to be used for killing people, while you guys see them as toys used for sports and play time
>>49203231navy seal chris kyle here,im better also i bet she has nice boobies,over.
>>49211569There's other types of more relaxed smallbore shooting
Because Americans are autistic and need everything to be about muh service rifle and have no concept of firearms as sporting equipment and don’t understand that there’s different disciplines of shooting. Olympic ISSF shooting is done with air rifles and pistols, 22LR rifles and pistols and 13 gauge shotguns because that’s available to just about every country. A fella from the United Kingdom can do Olympic shooting with .22LR because that’s what he can use legally in the UK, he can’t use, say, a 5.56 semi automatic rifle because he can’t own it. .22LR and 12 gauge are seen as sporting cartridges and as such they are use in sporting competitions, plus you don’t need a high powered centerfire rifle for target shooting.
>>49203315>>49203327Shooting sports (apart from shotgun sports) arent about combat or fighting or any of that shit. It’s about putting a bullet through a hole again and again with supreme accuracy. It’s like saying a high performance race car like an indycar or a formula 1 car or a GT/prototype car isn’t relevant because you can’t drive down the road in one/it’s not practical. It’s like seeing an indycar on the streets of St. Petersburg and getting mad because they’re not driving in a Honda Civic or a Chevy Malibu.
>>49211728Instead of the sport being watered down to accept UK rules it should be the UK uncucking itself and allowing their shooters to participate in competitions.I'm not even saying a real sport has to involve a 5.56 semi-auto rifle. The UK's pistol shooting team had to train in France and in 2012 they issued special permits to allow the Olympics to happen. It's fucking insane to defend this and say "oh they see it as sporting cartridge" motherfucker they should see EVERY cartridge as a sporting cartridge.>>49211796The issue is that driving categories are considered "real" driving, sure you can't get the groceries in a Formula 1 car but nobody in their right mind would argue it's not a thrill ride.
>>49211796All racing is gay, can't mount a .50 cal on any of these shitboxes
>>49203231I too would like a cute girlfriend with an athletic body and great aim.
>>49211796Its more like go karts. Those air rifles are not peak performance. They are specialized performance. The reason why Americans don't like European sport shooting is because its honestly not that impressive, and at least for me shooting 22 became kinda boring. Those just aren't real guns.
>>49211796>It’s like saying a high performance race car like a formula 1 car isn’t relevant because it’s not practical.that's true though. stock car is the only non cringe form of racing. euro competition shooters are bigger larpers than /gq/ and /arg/.
>>49207084Exactly why I stopped browsing here regularly. It's obvious this board is full of people who are more into power fantasy than actual firearms themselves
>>49203360They didn't have firearms in Hyperborea.
>>49206721This knocked off a Deutsche Bank president in the 70s.
>>49203231Because when I shoot, I do it without chains weighing me down. I shoot with the confidence that I don't require premission from my masters. Each shot is the sound of freedom. Every plink you make is the chain tightening arround your soul.
>>49203231They can do what they want, but it seems neither practical or fun.
>>49209899Imagine how much the quality on /k/ would improve if there were no americans.
>>49214092Yeah, what you need is fourms based out of your own gun friendly countries. Maybe even run by the benevolent europien union. A safe place for you to discuss your hobbies without any microagressions or toxic men to make you fell silly about your super serious and important sporting hobby. What's it called again. Airsoft?
>>49203231/k/ hates germans and german gun culture, they love Balistol
>>49203231>Shooting boutique air rifles at a couple dozen meters>The peak of marksmanship
>>49207068Stealing that. Also, women's olympic trap and skeet shootng is pretty fire.
European shooting>the absolute pinnacle of human fitness required to hold up an overdesigned plastic toy that weighs 3lb>so much equipment you need sponsors to even start getting into shooting what the fuck are blinders even for>.22LR is considered on the level of nuclear devices in power so they just shoot pellets>maximum distance of 10 meters>requires countless of years of practice and preparation to make a 6" group>have to spend hours at the range to even be permitted to take a single shot>skills dont translate over anywhere else because in reality you wont get your $17,000 blinders and you need an actual rifleAmerican shooting>actually illiterate obese rednecks from trailer parks can pick up any handgun and make a 1" group at 100 meters in a few seconds>countless of proven instances of any average marksman putting someone down in a single shot at 30 meters in a secondEurope is a better place than the states to live as a whole but in terms of skills used for killing and war, Americans can't be beatLet's not prerend the trained french 5'2" 104lb women that need a maserati's worth of equipment to fire a bb gun can even compare to some random bubba who spent his whole life shooting bottles with his grandpa's .223
>>49203231Boring, impractical, slow. Watching someone take 5 min to fire a shot at a target 50m away with the equivalent of a souped up airgun on roads isn't my cuppa. Or most people's. As far as mainstream shooting sports go skeet and trap are way more fun to both watch and do. NRA high-power is even better. If you like this stuff that's fine, just know most don't.
>>49214140>Yeah, what you need is fourms based out of your own gun friendly countries. Maybe even run by the benevolent europien union. A safe place for you to discuss your hobbies without any microagressions or toxic men to make you fell silly about your super serious and important sporting hobby. What's it called again. Airsoft?
>>49216259>slowBiathlon and rapid fire disciplines are slow? In biathlon you have to ski like a madman and people still hit 2-inch targets with 2-second splits.
>>49204666Yeah because your entire town will get flattened by rioters instead kek.
>>49217481not him but nobody is talking about the actual sport shooting sports, just the ones where you literally stand there making perfect groups with a perfect rifle, competing against people also making perfect groups with perfect rifles. it's the most sterile uneventful sport i can imagine. golf offers more opportunities to be wowed and surprisedolympic shooting sports involving unreal cardio are are based
>>49217650I recognize the skill but I don't personally like ISSF stuff because the people involved are chiefly stuck up autists
>>49203231Competative shooting is gay as fuckt. Eurø
Some people need a reminder>practical>/ˈpraktJk(ə)l/>adjective>1. of or concerned with the actual doing or use of something rather than with theory and ideas.>"there are two obvious practical applications of the research"
>>49217673Maybe if you live in a gay country where the only competitive scene is air guns and 22lr.
>>49217686>Maybe if you live in a gay country where the only competitive scene is air guns and 22lr.Name one
>>49203231Completely impractical style of shooting for any serious work.>Imagine if you had a squad of snipers trained with rifles like these, you could literally take entire cities with no more than a .22LR/.22WMR and precisely-aimed headshots.Pure cope larp. Target shooting is fine and all but biathalon is 10 times cooler than euro marksmanship shooting. Also, you eurofags acting smug about it is the real annoyance. 2 gun/3 gun and trap/skeet are vastly superior from a utility perspective.
>>49217711Practical doesn't mean what you think it means
>>49217706None that I know so it's retarded to put all "competitive shooting" in the same basket. There's dozens of different styles.
>>49217711I don't understand the "impractical" argument. Service rifle competitions have similar specialized gear and weapons, only the calibres involved are bigger. Marksmanship is never impractical.
>>49217838They think training for something that's not happening is more practical than training for real competitions.Also funny how these people think 3 gun is "practical". Practical if you're shooting an action flick maybe.
>>49207378Der Waffenschein für Privatpersonen ist auf eine regelmäßige, meist jährliche Sicherheitsüberprüfung ähnlich dem Umfang eines Neuantrags ausgelegt in der hinterfragt wird ob das Schutzbedürfnis noch weiter besteht, Apologeten des Islams bekommen keinen WS.Einfach zusammengefasst ist die Ausstellung des Waffenscheins das Eingeständnis des Staates, dass er den Antragsteller nicht mit polizeitlichen Maßnahmen schützen kann und nur die selbst geführte Waffe die Sicherheit in geeignetem Maße gewährleisten kann. Das passiert in den allerseltensten Fällen und die Anzahl der WS in Privatbesitz ist dementsprechend sehr gering.Frau Roth wird zwar oft nachgesagt sie würde eine Waffe führen, nachweislich belegen kann das aber bis heute keiner, ebenfalls wird WS Inhabern nicht gestattet die Waffe im Sicherheitsbereich von Flughäfen zu führen.>you have no clue what you are talking about you fucking retard
>>49208419"I'd outshoot a professional athlete"Ok Retard
>>49203231Sure, if you consider it marksmanship to use techniques that only works I'd you stip away everything that makes a gun a gun.
>>49203401And you will never be able to own a real gun. Nobody cares if you have fancy marksmanship if you're not even able to apply to anything but paper, you silly eurocuck.
Reminder that the ISSF is supporting a gun ban in Europe because they are content with "shooting" laser pointers.
>>49218347Good luck with that
>>49218345DAMN RIGHT SON, NOONE IN YUROP IS ALLOWED TO HAVE GUNS BECAUSE THEIR PEASANTS NOT LIKE US FREE MEN. YOU TELL THEM YUROPOORS WHAT'S WHAT________________________________Medically retired veteran, US Postal Service 1999-2002FBHOCogito ergo armatium sum
>>49218345Based, those eurocucks have no WARRIOR CULTURE like us American patriots.
>>49218395Its more to do with socialism, prevalent in Europe, demanding people be subservient to the state for all things including personal protection
>>49203231I like to make fun of them because they look silly. I've heard some yuropoors complain that the people who do it are enormous gatekeeper fags though.
>>49218458Get up against the wall, commie. Bernie Sanders isn't going to be your gay daddy.
>>49218552Take your meds buddy
>>49218347ISSF are cucks and this is known. Much like hunting organizations they're all about "I got mine"
>>49218466People who shoot multiple disciplines are cool but smallbore-only fags are autistic weirdos and a lot of them don't like guns
>>49218575Sorry honey, Im not a trannie like you so I dont have meds.
>>49218628Yeah there's no meds against room temp IQ
>>49203231I don't hate it, I dislike it as the only avenue for shooting practices. Especially when pricks like you describe .22 plinking as the height of shooting; as if the skills required match perfectly to the demands of long-range precision marksmanship or three gun.
>>49218345wrong you fat yank
>>49207194The OP literally claimed they could fight a war with these .22 rifles shitass
>>49219145>taking the daily bait thread seriouslylurk for a week at least
>>49203231Its literally lame as fuck keep coping
>>49203231>I dream of getting my hands on one of pic related.A woman?
>>49203231Cuz it's fuckin lame. as a spectator sport it's to slow and not very high impact. 3gun, tactical games, practical 2 gun, hall even prs matches are more high speed and fun to watch. If you enjoy it more power to you but I can't fathom why you can't fathom someone not enjoying it.
>>49222118There's hardly any shooting sports worth watching for the entertainment value. 3 gun is faster but if you're not participating it's not really exciting to watch.
>>49218588>a lot of them don't like gunsIts pretty clear most anons on /k/ don't like guns either beyond seeing them as a power fantasy.
>>49211502He was all “blyat chzexhnistan is totally European and not Turkic”.
>>49203231Obvious bait thread
>>49203231two gun is the most practical skill
>>49208732THEY ARE WEAPONS. FOR SELFDEFENSE. NOT TOYS.
Kiddies fucking shittin up this board.
Because it's a bunch of convoluted legalese bullshit with minimal payoff. Wow, congratz fagola, you get to plink some shitty overpriced airgun off a standardized sheet of overpriced paper while wearing some stupid baggy fucking overpriced rags and overpriced fake faggot-glasses with a piece of shitty plastic over one eye and develop skills that translate to buck-fucking-nothing. So much better and cooler than driving out to the middle of nowhere and smashing random pieces of trash I found off a stump from a couple dozen meters between magdumping into trash or shooting those stupid "photo of a dude in a ski-mask with a .38" targets at my local range.Take op's stupid yuropoor slut and drop an SMLE or M1903 and tell her to put a 30 caliber hole in a sheet of paper 50 meters downrange with irons. She won't.>>49203517>>49216244Fucking this.>>49211796False equivalency niggermonkey, drop an F1 driver into a Nascar road-race and they'll figure out how to keep pace with everyone else pretty fucking fast even without KERS. Put a Beretta 92 on a table in front of one of those faggot-ass olympic pistol shooters and tell them to get a fist-sized group of 15 in a target more than 10 feet away and they'll just look at you like you dropped a dead skunk in their lap.all fields you dumb fucking niggers
>>49227328I'm just a guy with people and things to protect. Doesn't matter who or what it is. I'm all for having fun at the range or having gaudy Gucci projects, but at the end of the day, you need to remember these are weapons and they can hurt people. I'm not a Boogloo Boy because I take safety seriously faggot.
>>49222200skeet is nice
>>49206798Lmao anyone can conceal carry in Guyana because if the cops stop you you just gotta give them $50
>>49207194Because it's the ultimate game for humans, it's ultimate practioner
>>49204692That’s a boy
>>49227361yeah, maybe you
I always found it funny seeing no guns and larpers on 2010 YouTube making fun of Gunny from clips of his History channel show doing traditional rifle stances when testing accuracy of guns. IIRC, he tested the M16 by doing a traditional standing rifle pose, plethora of 'he's chicken winging it and cupping the magazine like an idiot' comments. Smfh.
oh noooooo, someone is enjoying a sport that I don't care about, I'm going insaaannee
>>49229301The good book says that he that lives by the sword shall perish by the sword, said the black.The judge smiled, his face shining with grease.What right man would have it any other way? he said.The good book does indeed count war an evil, said Irving. Yet there’s many a bloody tale of war inside it.It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and not some other way.
>>49231698>sportsports involve exercise and physical competition, this is no more a sport than professional CSGO or dota 2