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>>48423533I want the BREN 2 .308 so bad bros
1st 4 steel.
1st 4 snø
Crimson Trace series 5 1-8x unboxing, initial impressions, in order:BIG, it's my first 34mm tube, so yeah. Add big turrets and batt compartment and huge ocular and it's BIG.A bit heavy, well it's big.A wee touch of pin cushioning noticed at the lower powers, esp 1x. This disappears at magnification. 1st focal plane, I'll get used to it.Mil dot, I'll adapt decades of second focal plane experience. Illumination, almost non existent in daylight at low range mag.Illumination at high range, acceptable in daylight.Eye box, hard to judge free hand, Burris 34mm QD PEPR on backorder, of course! May switch to the Steiner or Warne.Intended use, AR15 SBR, should be awesome for the $1600 50% off == $800. Is it worth $1600? Nope, not to me yet.
Is a PTR a bad choice for my first .308 rifle?
>>48424036Nope. Be prepared for the ammo investment to equal the cost of the rifle.
>>48423819Yeah they're hefty >>48424036Good choiceIf railed
>>48424036An excellent choice. Make sure you get one with a rail.
>>48423819Nice rifle anon, she looks great in the snow
Thanks to the anons who helped me with getting the pieces to finish out my PTR.
Anyone with experience on the NX8? Reviews seem lackluster mostly due to the eye box, but at 1k less than the atacr it seems like a good way to go if there aren't any issues
>>48423533Lurker fren here From a general perspective how hard is a FAL to build? I personally don’t have any experience building rifles, but my grandpa does. He is aging and I’m hoping to do something like that with him before he’s gone forever.Thanks frens
>>48424782Get the MPO 1-8X
>>48424786ND him lol
>>48424786It's not very hard anon. As long as you can afford it and he's not at death's doorstep because it will likely take awhile.
>>48423533today is the day we clean the m1a and the fal /brg/
I want to go back bros....
>>48424902Blame retards for it, anon. Remember, 50% of people are below average, and even being just over average isn't saying much.
>>48424890Strip first, drink whisky and drunk blog post for full effect. TIA.
>>48424902>g3 clone>centuryYou know damn well that's a CETME.
Thinking about putting the ptr towards a shorter barrel FAL to centralize mags idk
>>48425027I'd do it the other way around.
are the nicer pistol-grip-swappable g3 lowers compatible with cetme/c308 rifles? i hate the plastic one that came on mine and i want to swap it for something i can add wood to
>>48425027>standardization has it's own reward>variety is the spice of lifeYou're tearing me apart!
>>48425057>>48425116>>48425244The fuck
From a different thread:Yo so uh I want to thank this post for saving me from being a total faggot during this coming biden eraI'm like you know I never really had guns my life has been unstable and resultingly I have been unstable so although I've had a revolver for a while I've never really had any rifles but biden says>>last call, folksAnd so now I'm a panic buyer. So far I've picked up a Glock, a draco, and I'm paying on an ak. My appreciation for the ak is as follows:>>Increased penetration over 5.56Up until yesterday I understood the .308 to be a hunting cartridge and a sniping cartridge but now I understand it to be a battle cartridge. I'm picking up pic related on my way to work tomorrow.So on my biden shopping list is a psl. I understand it to have an effective range of 950 meters. I understand this gun to have a range of 400 meters, as do a lot of other .308s I look at. Will someone tell me in what way this is considered a sniping cartridge?
>>48425041Honestly I could go either way, but somehow I ended up with a ton more of fal mags>>48425057The duality of man
>>48425291>So on my biden shopping list is a psl.check out the Vepr in x54r or .308 instead, it's all around better
>>48425291PSL is a terrible gun for the $2000 they cost now unless you're a hard Romanian or AK collector. They're not particularly accurate, and the pencil barrel rapidly heats up as you shoot and opens your groups up even more. The other anon is 100% right, a vepr in 54r or 308 will be a significantly better gun. I'd also add a Yugo M76 in 8mm to the list of things better than a PSL. However, if you want an accurate long range semi auto rifle, I would 100% go with an AR10 build over an AK any day of the week. It'll cost less, mags are cheaper, optics are going to mount easier and cheaper, and it'll be more accurate and easier to find. I'd only go for the AKs if you're actually interested in AKs. I think AKs are way cooler than ARs, but the AR is 100% more practical.
Good morning frens
>>48425457why do you have a wood grain cock ring?
>>48425473My wife likes it. Gotta do what you gotta do
>>48425291>>48425361what is the liklihood of mass bans and the shit he ran on coming to reality?
>>48425291Armor is defeated by speed. Some hot 55gr 223 out a 20" cuts through most armor. Better than a 180gr 308 will.Yeah a PSL can send a round to 950y but you're kidding yourself if you think you'll be able to hit a man sized target with it. Maybe in perfect conditions with a $1k+ scope, $200 rings, $300 bipod, a $600 kestrel, and a $900 range finder binos you could 1 shot it.After 750y even a 5mph cross wind is going to rekt you. With practice you can be minute of man at 600y with irons but realistically 400y is more reasonable. Go measure it out and hang a sweatshirt from a tree and look at it, pretty fuckin small desu.
>>48425248Looks like full auto-tism.
>>48425500But it's so smol...
>>48425506>what is the liklihood of mass bansGreater than ever, you need more reason?
>>48425506Higher than it was before he was in office, but not much higher. Assume that things will always be harder to get in the future (1, 10, 50 years), get what you want now.
>>48424786Pretty easy, you just need the tools.
>>48423533Good afternoon friends
>>48426058I was told it was full-power, not intermediate!
>>48426652Kek The SKS gambit. Bold strategy Cotton
>>48426618I can't take this flexin'! The Galil folder is just too bad ass!
So where do most people get PTRs from when things are in stock? Atlantic?
>>48426973Atlantic has the most that come into stock. Classic Firearms sometimes does. KYGunco did once or twice in the past 4 months.Your best bet is Atlantic though.
>>48423533I don’t know much about ballistics. How much of a factor does “stopping power” have when it comes to the deadliness of a bullet?
>>48427093Get out
>>48426618If you're looking for a wood ARM handguard, there's a guy on GB selling some nice looking NOS ones for $200 each.Looks just like the one I've got on my model 332.
>>48427093> I don’t know much about ballistics.Imagine a hot piece of metal the size of a marble your going through you at over twice the speed of sound. That's a 7.62x51. Now scale up or down for bigger or smaller calibers.
Greatest battle implement ever devised
>basic imbel kit went for $1k on gb
>>48427565What’s the opposite of buyers’ remorse? I picked up an imbel kit right before the prices started going wild, and I very much regret that I only bought one, an anon here even told to buy two but I’m a poorfag so I didn’t take his advice. Live and learn, or something.
>>48427551based cmpbroswhat year is it?
>>48427718im a poorfag too. good on the original seller by not being a kike. fuck these scalpers
>>48427169Thanks for the heads up, I will look it up, I love your 332
>>48427931do they still make the 223 galil anywhere?
>>48427931Fuck, I think I might sell my Golani to buy a Galil kit.
PTR or M1A? gonna buy one this afternoon
>>48428147PTR and difference in mags
>>48428147Seconding >>48428274
>>48428147PTR today, M1A tomorrow. You want a fighting rifle first and a fuddy mantle hunting rifle second. If you already have a combat rifle, get whatever your heart desires most
>>48427997the golanis are probably still made but they had questionable quality control.>>48428122for the price of a golani in the modern day you could probably fully build 2 galil kits in either caliber or you could buy 4 or 5 kits.
>>48428274>>48428303>>48428304M1A is mainly due to parts availability with how popular it is. Every fud in Texas will have something for it (except Ammo ;_; ). PTR is because I can't FAL. Something about its silhouette is just....pleasing. I'll be using the rifle for shooting beyond 200 yards. I'll buy some nice optic, and honestly probably replace the green furniture with wood because sexy. Also I have an M16A1 clone AR, so I guess I'm ok in terms of civil defense. I'm drowsily writing this sorry if this doesn't make sense.
>>48428377The PTR and M1A (unless it's an incredibly expensive upgraded one) have no significant difference in accuracy at range.
>>48425361What's a decent price for one? Can't find them anywhere
>>48428410Wonderful. I will just see what I find the best deal on then, and which one is prettier to me. Thank you my friend.
>>48428446PTR? Today? 1150 is a good price
>mfw i got the imbel kit and receiver before these fucking scalpers ruined everything
>>48427931>>48427997>>48428122only reason i havent bought a kit yet is that there's no damn barrels.
>>48428522No a VEPR
>>48428568Derp'd Not sure on those.
The break in procedure for the PTR91 looks ungoldy tedious. Am I retarded or should I seriously be field stripping this thing to clean after every round first 10 shots then after every 20-30 shots?What did you guys do for the break in?
>>48428715>The break in procedure for the PTR91 looks ungoldy tediousyeah, two pins and pulling back the charging handle is sooo tedious like omg. >Am I retardedyeah for what you said>What did you guys do for the break in?i didnt clean it for the first ten shots because i forgot and just magdumped. but so far the few times i have gone to the range, i clean it after every mag aka after every 20 rounds. no issues thus far.also, its my bootlace, not a worm
>>48423806>INB4 SCAR fags bully you for not getting an overpriced ugg boot
>>48427551And such a nice example! What is your bbl dated?
>>48427718>the opposite of buyers’ remorseBuyer's regret. In your case, non-buyer's regret. And that sounds like something I would have said...>put one in the boomer box...
>Went to get a kung flu test on the 13th, didn't get the results back>Tired of waiting, went to get another test yesterday>Results came in from the first test last night, positiveFug. Now family says I've gotta stay inside until I'm negative. I just wanna do stuff.
>>48429061then you shouldn't have taken the test, silly
>>48429061Everyone's wearing masks and social distancing so why should if matter if you go out :)
>>48429061she's beautiful
>>48429061I had the coof too. The actual issues are super underwhelming. It mostly just sucked not being able to go to work.
>>48423533Look at this paperweight I bought
>>48429118I studied for it and everything though>>48429120Nope, family insists. One's totally paranoid about this shit>>48429134Thanks fren. I'm still thinking about painting the buttplate black like another anon did so it'll go with the SEF grip. Might get one of those improved recoil buffers in it too while I'm at it, can't decide between the Springfield guy's custom ones or the longer ones they've got on HKParts>>48429180I only felt sick for like a week, the only thing I've got left from it is a lack of smell. For being the world-ending plague, it's a little underwhelming for me.
>>48429234yeah, you only have a 99.97% chance of surviving it; terrifying. hell there was even a report somewhere that a guy who committed suicide was also labeled as a covid death, but what do i know?
>>48429234>painting the buttplate black like another anon didThat was me! Picrel is what I used.Sprayed a coat on, waited an hour, sprayed a 2nd coat. 5 days later it was fully sealed.
>>48429234It was always a meme.Fortunately, I'm a fan of memes.
>>48428966I say let 'um! I've never ever liked SCARs. And ive got more steel than you can shake a SCAR at! In fact, I still need to murdlize this one. Stand folds, magnetic wind flag not pictured. You boys really should get out with me someday.
>>48429061I recommend polishing your wood, if you know what I mean, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
>>48429061Don't feel too bad, Larry Fitzgerald caught it, but HE CATCHES EVERTHING!
>>48429348Ah, the good ol days! Kiss the wife!
>>48429061anon EVERY test comes back positive because the hospital and state have massive incentives for positive diagnosis in the form of grants, loans, and relief money. Also, they're most likely getting kickbacks from big pharma. EVERY TEST IS ALWAYS POSITIVE
>>48428377Honestly if the Comanche were busting down the door and I had to reach into a barrel containing a FAL, G3, M1A etc I’d feel equally good about whatever I grabbed, just get what you find the best deal on, but think of mag price and ease of optic attachment
>>48429568then how did i test neg fgt
>>48429846it was a heterosexuality testsorryfag
>>48424021Thanks for the info anon
>>48429529Much as I can
>>48424021>Is it worth $1600?>1-8x >34mmtube>A bit heavy>Illumination acceptable in daylightINTO THE TRASHIT GOESThe price is sky high, and the features are awful. Vortex, and Trijicon has better LPVO at the $1400 price range that can do 1-10x with better illumination, lighter weight and 30mm tubes. When you started your post, I saw 34mm so I auto assumed that LPVO was going to be a budget item, since bigger containers are cheaper and easier to manufacture than smaller ones. It doesn't do anything better AND it costs more. Big Off, Crimson Trace is going bankrupt soon.
>>48430074You do understand they are 1/2 off @ Midway right now?
>>48425291>Will someone tell me in what way this is considered a sniping cartridge?.308 out of a quality bolt action rifle get good ranges and accuracy. .308 out of a battle rifle loses some accuracy because of how the riles are designed to mitigate the gas and load the next round. All the best long distance sniper rifles are Bolt Action, magazine fed semi auto cannot reach that level of accuracy or distance. Not knocking manufacturers, it's just how physics works. An 18wheeler truck has a bigger higher horse power engine than a ferrari, but it will never go as fast as a farrier despite having a huge engine.
>>48430127My fault, $1300 @ $650: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102061946?pid=587565
>>48430127Still too expensive. What does the reticle look like?
>>48425291Get the M76 like this >>48425417 anon said. If you like playing with titties, it's more fun than playing with titties.
>>48430421If that's your collection, I'm impressed.Each one of those are amazing
>>48430448Hah thanks. I collect weird stuff cause I think it's cool and like mechanics behind each one. Hopefully one of my kids has autism that rivals mine and enjoys them for same reason. If not, just rainy day funds.
>>48430421Gee, Bill, how come your mom lets you have THREE wide handguards?
>>48430703Nobody was buying the 93 wide handguards last year, so I bought several with bipods. Used to be the same for SKS carbines like two years ago. Nobody was really buying them so I bought a couple SKSes cause I thought they were cool.
>building M76>tortort doesn't match serial numbersI get WHY, they're already built, but its still disappointing.
>>48430787I'll fully admit to being a nugunz hopping on the 2020 panic bandwagon, it's crazy how much some stuff seems to have shot up in price or just isn't on the market any more. Feels bad missing out on all the different formerly dirt cheap guns, but it is what it is.
>>48430914Once prices come down a bit, get what's cheap at the moment. Things come and go in phases. What we can get one year, might not be able to the next. If you have two of something, can always trade the second one for something different if you wanted.
>>48431038Remember $25 AR lowers >still didn't buy any
>>48423533Is there anything in stock anywhere that isnt an AR10 or shitty DSA pistol....
>>48430162Probi ly not thick enough for you, when the link is literally right above your post.
>>48430421>tfw my M76 receiver arrived>tfw no barrelreeeeeI'm also working on building a form 1 can that uses the interrupted threads on the flash hider to mount.
NN all
In the morning then.
>>48430703>liking the wide handguard
Do you all think FALs, or at least DSAs, will go back down any time this year, assuming no legislation happens?I've been itching for one but with how expensive they are compared to PTR91s, which still seem somewhat cheap, I might just go with that instead and get the FAL later.
>>48432809>hating the wide handguard
>>48423533I like that Hakim. 8mm Mauser is underrated but overpowered as a cartridge.
>>48432828Maybe $100. Maybe.
>>48428367Night night friends
PTRs - thoughts on the polymer lower vs metal? I want the bull barrel of the 102, but I prefer the metal lower that comes with other models since you can change the grip out.
>>48424786So far, very easy. I'm building an Izzy from a parts kit, and (hopefully) my barrel should be here this week. If you're building from a parts kit that comes with a barrel that already has a gas block fitted, it is legitimately the easiest thing imaginable; you only really need a hammer (preferably plastic and filled with shot, so you don't fuck up the finish on the receiver), flathead screw driver, level, vise, and an adjustable wrench or a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNckPmFKNRoThis guy gives a very in-depth explanation of how to build both inch pattern and metric pattern guns, though I think he makes it look harder than it is. He's also a crossdressing weeb brony, so very /k/. The locking shoulders don't need to be pressed in; you can hammer them in. Also, you can make ghetto go/no go headspace gauges by taking two .308/7.62x51 bullets and putting a piece of tape on the back of one cartridge, which will thus create a no-go gauge. If you buy an Israeli parts kit and decide to fit the gas block assembly yourself, it's going to be harder. You're going to have to drill three holes in the barrel, which is kind of annoying. I haven't done this yet, but I hopefully will soon.
>>48433382I have both, polymer is more comfy imo but steel is classic
>>48432828dont be a faggot, get both. No they wont get cheaper they have been pricey forever because they are niche
Hey I'm looking for ammo on my PTR 91. I saw some Armscor 7.62x51 m80 stuff and I'm wondering if it'll work in it. I heard from somewhere PTRs can be a little picky about ammo brands. For context my rifle was made in January of this year. I think PTR made some fixes but I'm not sure.
>>48433652PTR is the opposite of picky for ammo. They ear anything
>>48433652My PTR eats garbage Tula just fine. As long as the ammo itself isn't deffective, it'll run.
Anyone have some pics of G3s in the battlefield? Always like those.
would you guys buy a vz battle rifle?
>>48428367>>48428559Yeah, fucking sucks. I can just sit on the kit and one piece at a time it for the receiver and barrel while 5.56 is so expensive.>implying ammo will ever get back to normal
An SKS is a battle rifle, right? Pls let me stay here, the Milsurp guys are weird.
>>48424405>>48424169Not him, but I got my PTR without a rail. Kinda sucks, but I've gotten pretty good with just the irons. I'll get a claw mount eventually.
>>48434631as much as the ak is a battle rifle my guy
>>48432943The Hakim is a very nice rifle. Still probably the cheapest semi-auto 8mm surplus gun out there, even though they have at least tripled in market price since they started getting imported. If you want one I wouldn't wait too long.
>>48423819Is this airshit, or were you in TMBN or something?Miss my old ag3 :'(
>>48430143That's kind of the whole point of the roller delayed mechanism of the g3 platform though.A good g3 can hang quite well with bolt rifles out to 600 yards+ if you have a decent scope.1000+ yards isn't really .308 territory, of course you can get some hits, but low velocity holds you back when running bullets with decent bc.Would love a good automatic in .30-06, that would make more sense.
>>48434631No. It is not
>>48433652Not gas operated, as long as the loads are somewhat hot, it will eat it.
>>48432936It looks vile. It's inferior in every way to the wood or the thin. I'd even rather have a fucking MLOK handguard than the wide.
>>48432943>8mm Mauser is underrated but overpowered as a cartridge.How is any cartridge "overpowered" when there is no such thing? Is it "overpowered" for a paper target or an African lion? Is it "overpowered" for a communist or any enemy? The term is misused unless applied to a use. In fact, 8mm is UNDERPOWERED for intercontinental use (unless adjacent) or orbital insertion, but you note that the use intention is stated.
>>48435159The what? Only airshit thing I own is a wide handguard
>>48434631Nice wood, but upgrade your flooring. And no.
>>48435248Por que no los dos? I have the wide handguard for my bipod/bench shooting, and the MLOK one for tacticool larping
>>48435248Where does your taste run with women, cuz I'm sensing gay...
>>48435304This. Get what you like, get what you want, except that opinions and tastes vary and you aren't the center of the fucking universe with absolute judgment on all things subjective.>the 10/22 is a br
>>48427565Then buy an Israeli one off of GB for like $500
>>48428715>brought gun home>ogled at it a bit>took it to the range and pounded like 10 mags through it in a sitting with time to cool when it started smoking>brought it to the range 2-3 more times since then, still haven't quite gotten the zero right>still haven't cleaned itsack up buddy, the "break in" is published so if you complain they can be like "did you do the break in procedure?"
>>48435248sour grapes: the postjust chill until some more paki furniture comes in after the panic blows over in 2029, you'll get your wide too.
>>48435136Not based on G43 so I'm only semi-interested, mainly because it fires 8x57.
I refurbished the metal parts of my G3 wood stock today and got rid of the rust.
>>48435519Thank you for sharing, btw this is an img site.
Do Scar 17s belong here or in /arg/?
>>48435943Why not both? I need to post my ARX in arg just to play with their autism.
>>48435905I have a video ofnthe acid dissolving the rust
>>48435988
>>4843594317 does belong here, if you are talking about them with a2grips feel free to post them in arg.
>>48435943no but who cares about /arg/ does.
>>48435988>>48436013Nice!
>>48436084You are wrong; scar 17 does belong in brg.
>>48436179Citric acid dissolved in warm water is ideal for parkerized parts
PTR 102 any good?
The dark parts and corners were bright orange
>>48436208oh miss read the post. Thought it said "does the scar 17 belong on /arg/"
>>48436222>Citric acid dissolved in warm waterTang powder or orange juice? What is the concentration and source?
>>48424902What a charlatan. Yes ptr sold century receiver flats and barrels. That is not exactly the same as "built on a ptr receiver." Also he was making money off of this as those things sold for like 400 burgers when they first came out.
>>48425291As you can see this is the wrong place to ask. Battle rifles have a 3 to 4 moa. Go to prg for "sniping" info lmao although you'll have better luck if you just call it precision long range shooting.
>>48427169Do you happen to know if the arm handguards the same size for 308 amd 5.56?
>>48436299/prg/ here. Sniper's Hide for lurking real world info. /k/ is a shit show, though /brg/ is comfy.
>>48428559Keep waiting and when you find a barrel there wont be any kits. Come on dumb dumb.
>>48433405>bfgmoviesthis fucking guy
>>48436258Pure citric acid powder in any dose you like. I noticed that dumping the powder directly on the submerged rust helped even more.
>>48428715What the fuck? No nigger who the fuck told you that shit? Its a stamped sheet metal mass produced battle rifle with no gas system that loves steel cased ammo. It is not some high precision long distance hunting or "sniper" rifle. Those ultra cray bolt actions are the only ones a break in procedure like what you just mentioned is "recommended" even then its to be taken with a grain of salt.
>>48435969>>48436050>>48436208
>>48428950Bro your battle rifle doesnt need to be babied like that youre kind of a pussy.
>>48436402Alright? What are you trying to communicate with me here?
>>48436402My PTR is 11.5lbs with a loaded aluminum mag>>48436397>>48428715Run a mag, use bore snek. Run 2 mags, use bore snek. Run a few more mags, then take it home to clean. Never had failures to feed, extract, or fire after doing this. The only real goal of "breaking in" the gun is loosening up some tight parts and wearing off some possible burrs inside the gun. But they all get tested before they leave the factory. I'd say a solid 9/10 malfunctions are due to shitty magazines. If you have any issues during or after the "break in period," mark the magazines and test them again to see if it's a feeding lip or spring/follower issue.
>>48433425the polymer grip looks very unpleasant given how straight it is, while the one usually included with the steel looks much more molded for your hand
>>48436325Yes they are the same size.I believe the handguard retainers for the .308 are different from the 5.56 because of the diameter of the barrel.But the handguards themselves are interchangeable.
>>48432828Fals have always been more expensive than ptrs. Dont expect them to come down to that same price.
>>48436451They are devices for containing and redirecting explosions and shrapnel while putting another explosive into the same place. I take absolutely no issue with people who want to take some extra care in making sure they work correctly. Is someone a pussy for checking his oil and fluid levels in his vehicle every week, or does he just want to ensure he has a functional vehicle while other people just trust the merchants that sold them the product?
>>48433405That is Flandre. The legend himself and boy did he used to get hate around here. He did shitpost a lot though.
>>48434150
>>48435180Shut the fuck up faggot no it was not the whole point you moron. Stop talking up the g3 i know shes your baby but no youre wrong. Remember they had to accurize a g3 and they ended up with a psg1 which is made very very differently than the normal g3. Which is built to a spec of 3 to 4 moa from the factory.
>>48435351For reals dude its such bullshit. Like if youre worried just buy good hot ammo and go shoot. Ta fucking da, theres no secret break in
>>48436590
>>48436468?>>48436471You have a claw mount or anything?
>>48425053similarly, can i put cheap cetme wood on a g3 clone?
>>48436402What's an lb
>>48425506>>48426088>>48426238>president>house majority>basically a senate majority>overwhelming public opinion and medialiterally one mass shooting away from adding anything scary looking to the NFA list, or worse
>>48436804Nope, 11.5lbs with almost nothing on it. MLOK aluminum handguard, magpul VFG, loaded magazine, those are all the modifications. With the bipod and wide handguard, I think it's closer to 12.5
>>48436868We had like 3 school shootings a month for years at a time and nothing was done about it. The coof is the reason why we've had so few mass shootings in 2020. If people continue to keep their distance and don't rush to fill schools with easy targets, we can probably squeeze a whole extra year in before the next one.
>>48436471>>48436387but is there any proof or even plausible theory that such a procedure results in a different gun/wear than just shooting 200 rounds then cleaning once?
Thoughts on pelvic support systems?
>>48436976Well it was rusty and citric acid got rid of that.
>>48436974right, and we didnt have a president with radical gun control ideas on his website
>>48436998I'd rather have the goofy backpack that has a loop going overhead and suspends it from above
>>48436489I just put some grip tape on my straight grip to make it fit my hand right and called it a day
>>48436998I was going to buy one but the mount is 5000 fucking dollars
>>48423533Sometimes I regret buying so many different guns and wish I bought just one good battle rifle and tons of ammo and mags.
>>48423547It's for sale in Europe now. Hopefully CZ can sneak it in stateside before Biden enacts any gun control restrictions.
>>48437225variety is the spice of life, anon
Anyone have experience with the Galil ACE in 7.62 NATO? Is it good to go? I like the look of it a lot.
>>48436974>squeeze a whole extra yearOh, this IS reassuring. A whole extra year before inherent freedoms are defiled for generations.
>>48437260>It's for sale in Europe nowWait what? I thought it was just vaporware and wishes. I didn't think they were actually being or able to be produced right now.
>>48436998Based Colonial Space Marines wannabe!
>>48437423too roight m8
what's the process if I want to swap out the polymer lower on my PTR and replace it with a steel one? do they just replace like a lego set?
>>48437394A few have trickled out in very small numbers. A dude from Switzerland posted his.https://m.imgur.com/a/wQzf3ZQ
>>48437535It's not an AR, German Legos are a little more complicated than American ones.
>>48425506There's no telling but its certainly under fire. Obama couldn't do shit while he had the chance and Obama 2.0 may be the same, may not be.Pray Harris doesn't get into office.
>>48437535The steel lower needs to be able to engage with the semi-auto shelf. This one probably works, unless you want to weld a catch onto a surplus steel lower yourself.https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/SEMI-AUTO-HK94-HK93-STEEL-CLIPPED-PINNED-LOWER-PAINTED-FOR-CLONES-2p3091.htm
>>48434201I would give my left nut for one. I love the vz 58.
I just like it bros. 1-10x on Friday
>>48437361Its good but ugly
>>48437891the idea kinda turns me on too, but it looks similar in proportions to the already light vz 58 so idk if the recoil would be retarded or not
>>48437564Well good for them but I bet that the scar 17 is still better.
>>48436583Something for everybody here
>>48437949Is that a rec10?
>>48438260>rec10XCR-M my guy
>>48437963Wtf even is this retarded anime crap supposed to be? Random retardation horse crap? Post guns fgt.
I just want to feel happy
>>48438255ARS had a pile of Rhodie kits fs last Feb. Now, website shows oos. And remaining Indian kits at $888.
>>48438324accumulation of material goods does not necessarily translate to happiness anon
>>48438324Based consumer oriented endorphin release. Me too, bro.
>>48438277>XCR-MBut why
>>48438324Why aren't you?
>>48438378Seriously flirting with a complete collection. I rec a BM-59, Izzy FAL and something short for the truck cab, a folder or pup.
>>48438401Scar 17
>>48438401RFB for the memes
>>48438363Because I like it
>>48438444>Humph>check it>$2700, in stock at Kroll>ooooh kaaay...>click it>out of stockFuckin bitches.
>>48438287ask nicely
>>48438378Why would I be?
>>48424021I got the 3 series 1-5, came out to 350 and am happy with it. Isn't fuck huge at 30mm tube, plus can use claw mount. Illumination is good, center dot super small at 1x but bright red ring makes it snap to place quick. Zooming in to 5 sends the ring out of sight and you get a good mil reticle, T shaped and dot gets much bigger. I'd say it was worth it comparing to vortex at the 400 price point, can't say anything about more expensive scopes because I haven't fiddled with them>>48435351>>48436631ConcurredUnrelated, I just got the rhodie chest rig with the grenade pouches. First one so nothing to compare it too, but it seems fairly sturdy for as cheap as it was. StichING isn't impressive, but everything works and fits g3 mags easy and snaps closed. Worth $30 bucks
>>48438548>out of stockAs fucking always
>>48439218the new normal
a saga finally comes to a close. gorilla anon here, with the last episode of my battle with the claw mount.turns out i was right about the rear sight base, i discovered that the base was too narrow for the mount to sit on properly. we're talking nanometers here folks, i filed down the base just enough so that the mount can fit. now i can use my claw mount as i please. im thinking of filing it down a bit more to have wiggle room, but i might just leave it
>>48439370Blessed post. Now don't go strangling people, gorilla hands. You may need to register those as weapons
Just got my PTR, wtf is this carved into my safety selector
>>48439389some girls love being strangled though...
>>48439462A notch
>>48439660Looks like it was done with a screwdriver. Also, king retard here. Took rifle apart to clean and oil. Accidentally pushed the bolt head in while trying to turn it counterclockwise. How do I take the bolt off from here? Rollers are stuck.
>>48439567All
>>48439567You're right about that.>>48439683Kek, welcome to the club. Maybe ask gorilla hands for help. Otherwise your options are to rotate it yourself or do the bad practice military way. I'll post info in a sec.
>>48439370this is excellent, very happy for you
>>48439695I just watched this video and mine doesn’t rotate nearly as freely. Like, doesn’t rotate at all. Fuck. https://youtu.be/z-HRXFhh-w8
>>48439739>>48439695Nvm got it
>>48439683https://www.hkpro.com/threads/help-roller-lock-stuck-when-cleaning-my-new-ptr-91.87137/https://www.hkpro.com/threads/help-with-ptr-91-bolt-bolt-carrier.125501/This tool can helphttps://hkparts.net/product/hk-g3-ptr-hk93-33-bolt-carrier-tool-p785.htmThese videos explain what the above forum posts detailhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-HRXFhh-w8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBp1qcjvHd8This is the wrong way (but easiest). Its wrong because if done incorrectly can bend your receiver and introduces add'l wear. That may or may not matter to you. I do it but I don't do it every much or with a ton of force.Oh you got it nevermind
>>48439791Got it thanks fren
>>48439791>This is the wrong way (but easiest). Its wrong because if done incorrectly can bend your receiver and introduces add'l wearI can't find a video of this for the life of me so I will just write it for you.- Reassemble the bolt head on the bolt carrier- Rotate it back to how it should be inside of your receiver- In reverse, try to insert it back into your receiver. It won't go in without force- Apply force to the bolt to force it inside of the receiver. This force will depress the rollers so that they unlock- When they've unlocked, remove the reversed bolt carrier from the receiver and put it in normally. It should go in just fineYou can see why this isn't the correct way to do it but it *does* work. Just be careful. I was able to do it with minimal force which I recommend.
>>48439810Yup!Wow that is one clean bolt and head.
>>48433227ANON YOU FUCKING DID IT YOU CRAZY SON OF A BITCH
not for my rifle, Im great with irons on my riflebut do I have to get gud with irons on my hand gun? Id rather just get a fucking optic.
>>48429205what is this
>>48439871Just got it today man. Had to wait over a month because of a faggy gun store. On the bright side, I managed to get 1k rounds of steelcase, a dozen mags, kraut web gear and a sling while I was waiting!
>>48440006That's fucking awesome man, living the dream. My dream anyway!
My CETME doesn't have a rail or a rear drum sight. Do you think this is something a gunsmith could do at all?
>>48440114Yes I do believe a gunsmith is capable of destroying and disposal of your cetme.
>>48436397the PTR manual told me
Nugunz here, how reliable are Promag/Checkmate magazines for the M1A? Any recommended magazines for the M1A?
>>48440245PleaseRememberOurMagazinesAreGarbagecheckmate g2g tho
>>48440125don't be mean>>48440114yes they could weld a rail on for you
>>48440207this. so much this
>>48428715I read the manual and promptly ignored it. Didn't have any issues. I think it's one of those "cover your ass" things they do in case someone say "my gun don't run reliably" and so they can say "Did you break it in?"
>>48423533PTR mailed me back my rifle I sent them for warranty in december. Showed up right to my door, was surprised you could do that. Replaced a part they forgot to put on and it seems g2g, gonna try and get some range time and see if its improved. Initial communication was great, but when it was returned I had no idea what was going on until I received an update from UPS that something was shipping to my door. Overall though, positive response, they paid shipping and everything.
My barrel sight wobbles left and right a little bit. Is it a bad thing? is there something I can do for it?
>>48439683There is a trick to it.
>>48424931That isn't how averages work at all you Dunning-Kruger fuck. The average amount of hands people have is two, does that mean 50% have above or below that amount?
>>48441077fine fine, 50% of people are below the median, you happy?
>>48441112>mfw I'm a 50%erBut I have a secret.
>>48440791PSA did the same thing with my AK. Thank God I live in the middle of nowhere because a bug box that says AK on it would have walked off during the 12hrs I was at work.
>>48440114Yes they can weld them on. Its something you could do yourself if you had the welding equipment.
>>48440302Osaka best girl
Hey PTR fags, what trigger do you recomend replacing the factory one? I cannot stand how long the fucker is.
Goddamn you guys weren’t kidding about the cocking tube being sharp. Skinned my pinky. Anyone grind it down?
>>48441863trigger is fine, and i have short fingers btw. to be fair, i haven't spent much time last year shooting it so i haven't noticed any downsides yet.>>48442177no, i grew thicker skin
>>48434631At least attach your bayonet facing the right direction. You have it on upside down.
>>48442177you eventually get used to it. don't grind a thing, it won't help
>>48442262>>48442387Aight. Should I get the bigger cocking handle? Pic related is what mine came with. I have big hands (can opeerate safety without breaking grip) so this cocking tube feels so small in my hand
>>48442473Nothing wrong with the stendo handles but I think the stock one is fine.
>>48441863I disassembled and polished the mating surfaces. Don't really recommend that because it was miserable but it made marginal improvement. It's a super fussy system so getting an angle wrong can easily fubar the whole thing. I don't know much about it, just kinda made it happen, probably went from a terrible 12lb pull to a 7lb with a weird step. Oh well
>>48442579I've read it can also lead to light strikes so I decided not to fuck with mine too much.
>>48442473i got an extended one from hk parts- comfort and ergo of the CH went up 10 fold. the down side being i had to shave away some of the plastic so the CH would latch down. well worth the buy imo
>>48439370So it was out of spec on that end, by the *slightest* amount? Jfc, well at least you got it fixed. Hopefully you can enjoy it proper now.That's fucking nanners though. What in the fuck...
>>48439872Of course bb, just ordered a wooden hand guard for it too
>>48442889This one? https://hkparts.net/product/cocking-handle-extended-hk-91-g3-ptr-c308-p199.htmHow hard is the install? I’m an AR fag so my gunsmithing experience is Legos.
CETME barrels in stock: https://www.apexgunparts.com/catalog/product/view/id/6938/s/cetme-c-barrel-7-62-x-51-18inch-fluted-5-8x24-threaded-us-made/category/90/
>>48443145>being this big of a chadThanks anon, I ordered one. Pro tip, if you ask apex to throw in free stickers theyll give out 6 or 7 good ones at least.>>48443115based, whered you find the wooden ARM handguard?
Okay lads, do you know where I can find some manual or video of cetme parts kit building, I’m curious in picking up the parts kit but I don’t know what I’m getting my self into so I’d rather not go in blind
>>48443511Gunbroker $200 nos handguard that another anon told me about in this thread. I need a bigger safe now lol
>>48443116Yes, that same one. Install isn't difficult, there's a roll pin and a little L shaped spring, thats pretty much it. Highly recommend it, makes charging the gun a dream.
>>48443511Thanks, too late for the stickers lol. Unfortunately the barrels are 5/8x24 but HK parts has ones that look pretty close. Now I gotta wait for RTG to get the receiver flats in. >>48443546>I don’t know what I’m getting my self intoMe neither lol: http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/archive/index.php/f-65.html
How hard is it to build a CETME off of a PTR receiver?
>>48443766CETME C parts kit*
>>48443766Century started making theirs from PTR-supplied receivers, I imagine it's not much different than a non-PTR one
>>48443786Is it just a matter of screwing things into place or would it involve machinery of some sort?
>>48443546>>48443766Keep in mind they're cheap because they're hard to do. Not *the* hardest but you'll need intermediate machining and welding skills. >>48443681 that link is the go-to for old info that's still relevant.
>>48440245when i first bought pro mags they refused to even fit in the m1a, i left them sitting in the carrying bag for months with 3 springfield armory mags, and somehow that seemed to be the trick, i took them out of the bag and the promags worked as good as SA or checkmate, very bizzarei suspect the mags heard me talking about shooting them in the woods if they didnt work
>>48443815There's a good amount of machinery that goes into it. You need a 12-ton press, welding gear, and some form of bending jig [there are 3D printed ones if that's a thing you can do] at the absolute barest minimum. Plus other stuff for demilling the parts kit and cleaning it all up
>>48423533I asked a few threads ago but I'm going to rehash it since I'm going shooting Friday, and want to test the CETME again.My cetme (one in OP pic actually) started having problems a while back. I always shot dirty tula through it, but then a buddy wanted to shoot it and used some brass ammo. Since then it has occasionally had an issue where it struggles to feed from the magazine, and then it will get the round stuck 90% of the way in the chamber, completely locked up to the point where I have to take a hammer or block of wood to the charging handle to get it to eject. I honestly don't remember if I cleaned the chamber and tested it, but I've currently got it disassembled on my bench scrubbing the chamber with a .45 cal brush and washing it with hoppes. What else can I do to mitigate the chances of this happening again? I just triple checked bolt gap and its on the low end of in spec. Like .14mm or something. Spec is .1-.5mm. Would it still be a good idea to put some larger rollers in it?
>>48443860Wish I had an answer for you, I've got one as well and want to head off those issues before they arise.Check these out just in case. The last one seems the closest to yours.https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/cetme-extraction-ejection-problem.231784/https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/century-arms-cetme-need-help.280132/https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/related-topics/121208-cetme-rifle-questions.html
Why are there only like 4 or 5 battle rifles ever mentioned in these threads?CETME and all clones (hk, ptr etc)Galil FALgarand
>>48444529hmnmm i wonder why the most common, affordable, and iconic battle rifles are the ones mentioned the most>reeee my eclectic BR from a country nobody has ever heard of never gets talked about!!!!11
>>48444595Nice autism.I wasn't being critical you tremendously retarded faggot, I was asking why it seems no one discusses other battle rifles.
>>48444529Because I can't find a Fedorov Avtomat or ammo for it. 6.50mmSR Arisaka is a full power round right?
Hold your friggen fire
>>48429205forgot to take off your socks
>>48444958I wear socks at all times. It's too cold not too
>>48436590Because the regular G3 is stamped, average accuracy isn't all that, there are lemons, but there's also gold.I've had 3 or 4 during my service, accuracy varied wildly between them, one shot very true, could punch steel at 500 meters with it no problem.People shoot them in competitions here in Norway, and some get VERY good accuracy out of them.The mecahnism is very nice for building a highly accurate automatic rifle, but that only work when tolerances are right, I would never buy one without shooting it first.
>>48436590Also, PSG1 is mostly a meme gun, MSG90 is the one you would really want for accuracy.PSG1 is a collector's gun.
>>48435281Assumed you were Norwegian due to filename and the fact you have an "F" on your selector.Only somewhat pimped AG3s I have seen have been with the Telemark Battalion.
>>48440309>>48441354You really should tap and thread it for a rail, not weld it on.It will twist due to the heat during welding, no way to completely avoid it.Might not really matter much, but there's zero reson to weld over tap and thread, unless you really want to use your scope as the head of your nato sledgehammer when breaking rocks in quarry or something.
>>48443116Yes. Shop prices at RTG, $44 seems high. I YouTube'd a video and finished in <10.
>>48443592Looks as full as mine and bigger still.
>>48444604He's not wrong, you know. But I understand your concern. A while back (last june) bitching arose all dicussion was too FAL oriented and >rrreee too FAL oriented!!!!!The pendulum swings and from /brg/ old fag perspective Hakims and Galils are trending now, FN49s and BM59s are passe. I just follow closely and skip over the negative Nancy comments as best I can. Still, some tardikins will get an elbow, but I usually pass.>are ptrs gud?>rrrreeee cast rcvrs!>i heard dsa is shit!>can i build a fal?>where to buy ammo?>why is everything expensive?>will guns become illegal?Some questions aren't worth any reply. The good news is.... RANGE DAY TODAY!
>>48444627>Case length:50.39 mmSure, why not? Yours?
>>48445101
>>48436590Sorry pal, you be wrekd: >>48445282
>>48425417Kinda want to build an AR-10 in .243 win desu
>>48445604Currently building a triple pack on sequential # rcvrs, .243 win, .308 win and .358 win, ama.
>>48445640Very nice.I have to shoot pistols actively in a club for 2 years before I can get a permit for an AR-10 here in snowniggerland.
>>48445748Since we're at 324 replies (and no tiddies, yet?) What can you tell me about Latvia?
>>48445809I mean Estonia?
>>48437949Debated between those and building this
Fuck it, boobas now!
>>48427093Uh, stopping power? Wound channels, the amount of energy you can dump into a target, .308 spitzer will just punch through you and shatter everything in it's way, that bullet exiting your body is wasted energy. Load a .30-30 bullet in a full power .308 load, bullet will explode on impact, dumping the majority of energy into the target without much room for over penetration.
Am I the only person who likes the XCRMs? They're the only "modern" battle rifle Id own besides maybe an ar10 built like either a big m16a1 or >>48446222 's rifle.
>>48445544 Fuck yeah man. May you put enough bruise on your shoulder to compensate for the rest of us who aren't as fortunate. >>48446577Right, I'm thinking about building an AR-10 and putting the ArmaLite SuperSASS handguard and gas port on it. Would using an AR-10 as a boltie (gas port shut off) improve MOA or are bolties just a meme?
>>48446577Yes. In the entire history of the world, you are the only person to have ever liked the XCRM. You are truly unique.
>>48446600>Would using an AR-10 as a boltie (gas port shut off) improve MOA or are bolties just a meme?oh anon...
>>48446699What? If the gas port is shut off, rifle won't cycle. BCG remains in locked position for all I know. Would that theoretically improve accuracy? Someone with a FAL needs to answer this.
>>48446718once the bullet leaves the casing it doesnt matter what happens to the gun as long as the barrel doesnt lose pressure or blow the case out. Technically maybe the gas piston on a piston driven rifle moving back could cause a tiny bit of barrel whip but by the time that happens the bullet is probably already out of the barrel. Thats my laymans understanding of it though, Ive never actually taken my rifle to the range and done groups with and without my gas system on.
New thread:>>48446855>>48446855>>48446855
>>48443657>>48445494Thanks frens. Do I need to buy a new spring or can I re use the original? My rifle is brand new
>>48446875I reused mine. A spare is a thought, but other spare items would be higher priority. I just checked the HK21 charging handle for fit and it looks like slight trimming is indicated.
>>48446865Thanks
>>48446769How I thought of it was the brass makes a gas seal, and the benefit of a bolt action is the fact that the rifle doesn't begin the cycling process until after the powder is 100% burned, and burning in one direction. I may be autistic, and thinking too much about this. Yes anon I understand that the bullet leaves the barrel before the shooter even feels the recoil, but the BCG begins the cycling process instantaneously, which would break that gas seal. This would probably affect slow burning, Magnum powders more than anything desu. I'm retarded, looked it up and turns out people who tested this are getting less than 10 fps difference using a chronie.
>>48446944Checked
>>48446972Twingeeee
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