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Updated Fort Jackson Diary Edition

previously on /meg/ >>48410236

Lieing about criminal history = bad
Lieing about medical history = good

>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
https://discord.gg/RmrWxhf

Resources:
>Special Forces Fitness Guide
http://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/sfart.htm#:~:text=PT%3A%20Every%20other%20day.,of%2040%20to%2050%20reps).

>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of SOF units. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.

>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.

>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.

>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well

>Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga

>Should I go Navy Enlisted Nuke???
No. http://i.imgur.com/FZ0Q9q4.png
tl;dr: Long hard school, to do shitty work, and the job prospects are a lie.

>https://bogidope.com/civilian-to-guard-or-reserve/the-ultimate-military-pilot-career-path-part-1/
Airforce Pilot guide

>Info on sf86
https://www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf

>Free ASVAB Study Books
https://archive.org/details/asvab0000unse_z2t4
https://archive.org/details/asvab00lear
https://archive.org/details/asvabpowerpracti0000unse
https://archive.org/details/normanhallsasvab0000hall

>2020 Ft Jackson Army Basic Training Summary and Observations
https://pastebin.com/53tsDj90
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Can the military REALLY find all my past 4chan(nel) posts?
Am I fucked for clearances?
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>>48419496
Yep. And my dad was on a minesweeper, a true small boy. I'm an AM on an aircraft carrier and even then it's hard because theres no space in the gym and everyone is always waiting so long for equipment.

>>48419485
Nah you still do it. You have to have a good score to get a good eval. If you fail three you get called a fatty and you're pulled away to PT more or something, I know nothing about this but the point is that they still do it and they're actually expanding on it a bit more. They got rid of the situps recently, its all planks now.
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>>48419535
yes
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>>48419535
i already told you YES
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Stop bringing fat chicks on base.

No one wants to see that.
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>>48419535
yes, leave the country now
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Im was dumb enough to tell my recruiter I smoked weed and he told me to say I smoked five times in my life when I should have told my recruiter I never smoked at all. At meps I said I smoked five times. I scored a 93 on the asvab. How fucked am I jobs wise?
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>>48419572
anything secret clearance is off limit to you now, what branch?
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>>48419572
holy shit why wouldnt you say you only smoked once? You are one dumb fuck. I am glad you are banned from technical and intel jobs.
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>>48419572
"Im was dumb" - Anonymous, 2021
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>>48419581
Air force. I want cyber systems operations
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>>48419572
>How fucked am I jobs wise?
You're not. A little experimentation as a child is normal. There's a reason the recruiter said five times. Five times is experimentation, that sixth time means you're a junkie.

I mean, fuck, if we only allowed the sinless to enlist we'd be screwed because there aren't enough Mormons in Utah.
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>>48419555
>>48419543
>>48419545
not the original anon but how, explain or bait
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>>48419695
>given answer
>don't like the answer
>question the answer rather than accept the answer

Son, that ain't how it works
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>>48419689
>Mormons

Man, if they didn't exist, our intelligence communities would be up shit's creek
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>>48419698
>not explaining how the military can track an individual's posts on an anonymous Indonesian basket weaving forum and saying thats not how it works
explain or bait
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>>48419698
Hey I never questioned it, that's a whole different anon, he even stated that
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Accidentally mentioned my gym coach futanari tomboy dom scat fetish at MEPS
Am I fucked?
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What’s the best way to get the highest likelihood of seeing combat at some point?
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>>48419794
0311
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>>48419794
enlisting during a war
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>>48419794
18x
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>>48419782
No, but instead of just spreading your cheeks for the butt hole test the doc or PA might need to do an anal probe to make sure your ass/guts are not damaged.
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>>48419782
yes, you will be singled out at boot camp and forced to suck off all the instructors until they are satisfied and you wont be alllowed to wipe the cum off your face until the end of boot camp
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>>48419794
1. buy a gold Rolex
2. wear it, visibly
3. take a walk through any major city
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>>48419794
Go to compton and start yelling the N word. You will see combat real fast.
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>>48419802
>>48419812
Why not 11b or 11x option 40?
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>>48419838
11b it depends on so many factors like deployment rotation, mission, etc

Regiment, it all depends on mission.

Special forces, you are thrown in native country with 7 other dudes and QRF (rangers) that are minimum 4 hours out.
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>>48419838
I don't know what are you a cop
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>>48419572
I feel like cyber systems operations is off the table for me now
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>>48419957
yup. Closest to a IT job you will get is help desk tech support.
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So what is the next deployment where combat will be seen? I know we won't get another Iraq or Afghanistan for a long time but I'm talking closer to Somalia, Panama or Grenada.
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>>48420018
Anon, were never leaving the middle east. And there is always africa.
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Can we not include the terribly written jackson summary
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>>48419973
I hope youre just trolling
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>>48420043
this, ME and Africa forever wars
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>>48419836
You might be joking, but police officers see A LOT more action that active duty infantry. If you want to shoot people, you should unironically become a police officer.
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>>48420057
For real he needs to update that shit and take all the beta shit out lol
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>>48420018
The situation in Ethiopia might devolve and threaten our presence in Djibouti, so I could realistically see that as a place some of our boys might get to deploy to. The French are largely in control of West Africa and the Chinese are expanding their presence in East Africa everywhere south of Kenya, so if Africa is the next playground, it'll be the Horn since we are already there. There won't be any big ones in the near future because Iran is too powerful to be dominated like Iraq and our other minor opponents can be beaten into submission with a combination of air superiority and special forces, like what we did with the Islamic State.
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>>48420119
How about rangers? Do you see them being sent somewhere new soon?
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>>48420119
this and burma
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>>48420119
sounds kino
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>>48420092
No, its based. I liked it and I think thats what actually gonna save my ass in BCT, I was going with the mindset of basically going all out all the time PT-wise but he is right, being slick, smart and conserving energy and your body is a much better approach, specially if you get some new or subpar drills like that african woman. Im not particularly interested in selling contraband but I do understand how that can be used to make friends quickly.
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I mean you should probably include the BCT summary that ISN'T 22 pages
Offering both versions for someone that only wants to spend like 10 minutes reading as opposed to an hour or two
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>>48420151
Depending on our foreign policy at the time, if the Tigray "rebels" start shit and either start genociding people or the Ethiopian military engages in genocide, it will be Rangers that get sent to stabilize the situation, since SF wouldn't congregate that many of their dudes in a situation that went beyond their control. There are also circumstances, like after we noob-tubed Soleimani and had Rangers deployed and on stand-by for artificial "protests" that could have resulted in Libya 2: Electric Boogaloo, which could either happen again if Iran is displeased with our continued presence affecting Syria's ability to regain their land, or in Afghanistan when things inevitably go to shit under the watch of the Afghans and the PMCs that cannot replace the US military as true pacifiers.

>>48420168
Myanmar (Burma) is out of our hands, that's China's game. I cannot honestly tell you whether the Burmese military is protecting its country from Chinese debt-trap occupation or abetting it, but the Chinese desperately want access to the Bay of Bengal because it would allow them to entirely bypass the Strait of Malacca and benefit them tremendously in their endeavor to control the global supply chain. India should be a major player, but their incompetence is expected and our actions in the region will merely be economic sanctions and whatever spook shit the glowies are doing over there. Keep an eye on oil and gas pipeline construction to/from the major Burmese ports of Sittwe and Thilawa connecting with the Yunnan Province of China.

tl;dr no US presence expected in Myanmar, increased activity in Africa due to Chinese economic pushes and extremism drifting south, Rangers used as a threat via presence rather than actual floppy slotters
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>>48420262
I always wondered how Rangers and SF see each other. In a forum a guy in the 75th wanted to go SFAS and he was adviced to keep it low since it might not sit well with other rangers. I wonder if its like a mutual respect or more of a dick measuring contest. At the end of the day both are badass though, there is no denying that
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>>48420326
I think kind of a dick measuring contest. I remember back in 13 at bragg a group of rangers were making fun of some SF because the SF said they were door kickers. Plus tons of dudes from 3rd goes to SFAS. dunno about others.
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>>48420262
>if the Tigray "rebels" start shit and either start genociding people or the Ethiopian military engages in genocide

too late anon the usa just doesnt care
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>>48420326
Different people have different opinions, so I'll whip mine out

Becoming a bona-fide Ranger is, in some ways, a stepping stone to get a decent shot at becoming SF. Many in the Army SF community have earned their tab and scroll, though there are some that did not and get along just fine. Rangers are used in the same capacity that Marines could be used, being a quick reaction force that is very much capable of handling a de-escalating situation that may not warrant a full invasion and occupation. Rangers can almost entirely support themselves, so big Army logistics won't have to be as obtrusive when we ship these guys over in large numbers in a span of hours. SF, on the other hand, runs entirely different mission sets. If a country or region is destabilizing and we do not have control, SF has failed. Their primary mission lately is to train forces that are either friendly to us or useful as enemies of our enemies. Think about our involvement in "Kurdistan" as a recent and high-profile example. The Kurds that have been given credit for dismantling the Islamic State could not have done it without SF support and training. A dozen rangers could change the course of a firefight, a dozen SF could change the course of history, if you want it to be summarized
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>>48420066
I wasnt.
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>>48420119
I'm talking a scale that 11 bang bangs get deployed tho, thats why I referenced Somalia
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>>48420057
>>48420092

This.

>OMG drill sgt, that fellows weiner is out when he takes a shower. Please make him wear clothes IN the shower, I am extremely homophobic.
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>>48420405
Those were rangers, not normal infantry unit.
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>>48420427
My dad was in Somalia during Restore Hope, he was just a normal 0311.
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in a second american civil war, which branches would be on what side and in what proportions? this has nothing to do with enlistment, just want to see what everyone thinks
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>>48420431
Right, but the ones who went into the city and did shit were the rangers and delta, not the avg 11b.
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>>48420377
We may not care now, but Somalia, Eritrea, and both Sudans care, and if it becomes a regional conflict, that would put Djibouti right in the middle of the 21st century's version of the Rwandan genocide (potentially). Rangers get deployed quickly, then are filled in with legs if the situation remains poor. We will not let our shipping route through the Bab Al-Mandab Strait, and therefore all shipping routes that cross from the Mediterranean to the Arabian Sea, get halted or delayed by an East African dick measuring competition.

>>48420405
If you are 11B, you have no excuse not to become a Ranger.
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>>48420436
literally never going to happen
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>>48420436
Its not happening. In no scenario will military actually go against a legit rebel enemy. Every single high ranking officer in todays military will fast track their retirement/seperation paperwork the minute it happens. Majority of enlisted will say fuck that shit and just stay in their rooms. No military person actually wants to die on US soil over bullshit.
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What else is there to do when in the military, clubs and whatnot? How do you get involved? What to say and who to say it to?
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>>48420350
>>48420383
>Becoming a bona-fide Ranger is, in some ways, a stepping stone to get a decent shot at becoming SF.
That was something on my mind lately. I obviously know that Ranger school and the 75th regiment are different things, but I wondered how things changed since the introduction of the pipeline, since you have guys entering as 18x and then maybe going to Ranger School. I wonder if its almost mandatory or -very encouraged- for SF to get their tab. Well explained.
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>>48420498
Its your time, do what you want. Stay inside and game, go outside and boost your instagram, become a youtuber, go to college, go to strip clubs, join a local crossfit cult, get a waifu and spend every waking minute messaging or video chating, volunteer at an SPCA, go fishing, etc.
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>>48420528
Its nice, but not a requirement. Ranger school is a bonafide leadership course. Maybe if you were missing promotion points or that one leadership bullet to make team leader. I am stationed at bragg and i maybe see 5 green berets with ranger tabs, and one with a sapper tab.
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I want to join the military and have the maximum amount of comfy with the least amount of combat or dealing with military bullshit. Give me the best branch and MOS to do this.
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>>48420576
Army 35F.
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>>48420528
Sadly, I don't have the personal knowledge to weight in any further with certainty, but you should consider if you even want to do the SF job. 18X allows you to skip the stepping stones that a buck private would have to ascend in order to try out for the program, so it has that as a serious advantage. The NG has their own equivalent and they train those guys for about a year before they send them to try out, and apparently those guys have an absurdly high pass rate just because they were incredibly well-prepared and did not have to deal with a lot of big Army bullshit
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>>48420576
Army 35x
Navy CTx
Air Force 1Nxxx
Marines 26xx

pick the branch with the culture and lifestyle that you like the most, and it will be maximum comfy. you'll also interact with other branches a decent amount
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>>48420616
Nah man you gotta be specific with army 35 series. 35P and 35M you could get fucked real hard in language school. If you get a difficult language like korean, youre in a 1 year long course thats more difficult amthan any undergrad course you could imagine. Which is why most universities consider their equivalency to graduate courses when transferring credits.
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If someone enlists at this very moment, what are the chances of spending 20 years not seeing combat? 03xx btw.
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>>48420650
Cont,

Also 35T is a year long and pretty comprehensive. 35Q is half of 17C and is hard as fuck. 35N and 35S arent too bad, but they are not jobs you can just cruise in without reprecussions. 35L is a very professional work setting, so you cant dick around there.
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>>48420559
Ah I see, yes I have been told Ranger School helps a lot with promotion points and career advancement.
>>48420584
>Sadly, I don't have the personal knowledge to weight in any further with certainty
The knowledge you provided was more than enough, I wasn't aware of the NG component. Its a bit of a shame the pipelines are locked behind a US citizenship requirement, specially considering that is granted fast with military service, but it makes sense considering SF requires a clearance.
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>>48420658
Always possible. I had an 11B E8 who joined right before 9/11 and NEVER saw combat. He was always billeted for staff shops at BN, or never pulled a route mission that saw any gun fire. Hilarious really, because he was the only person above E4 who did not have a CIB.
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>>48420666
congress wont vote for it until something big big happens
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>>48420693
The entire air force actualky locks out anyone without a green card, because they have a blanket secret clearance requirement regardless of job. All of the green card holders pending citizenship are non deployable, cant go on TDYs, cant go to extra training or schools, because practically everything in the air force requires a clearance by regulation.
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>>48420666
Motive is questionable, but the information is sound. Odd that there is no mention of the surrounding East African nations or of Saudi interests in the region, but this guy might be looking at different information than I am. It should be quite telling that two entirely separate people with very divergent thoughts on the matter are in agreement that we will get "involved" in Ethiopia in the near future.

>>48420693
If you lack the citizenship, why not go through regular Army, earn your tab and scroll, get your citizenship ASAP, and then (if you bounce out) get back in either as 18X or join the NG. Sure it will take longer, but you'll get everything you want
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>>48420710
If media starts chirping about war crimes in Ethiopia 24/7 to distract us from a domestic issue congress will vote it in so the Biden/Harris clique can be declared war heroes instead of demons in human form
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>>48420732
So if that happens, I should immediately enlist?
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>>48420787
why not just enlist now? you'll already be in if shit goes down, and if not you'll be in for whatever shit happens in the next four years
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>>48420787
By the time you enlist it will be too late. Best case scenario as a deployment, it ends up like Somalia. Cannot see much coming from it desu
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>>48419543
>>48419545
>>48419555
so they can see ALL of my poistst? even the ones where i larp as a communist and national socialist?
fuck i might as well join the french foreign legion if that's the case
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>>48420820
not me
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>>48420820
Bon voyage
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>>48420714
I see, yes, there are a lot of restrictions in every branch. I haven't browsed a lot of the AF jobs but its my backup if the army doesn't work, since they take up to 39. According to this anon, citizenship doesnt take long in the AF either >>48418682

>>48420727
>If you lack the citizenship, why not go through regular Army, earn your tab and scroll, get your citizenship ASAP, and then (if you bounce out) get back in either as 18X or join the NG. Sure it will take longer, but you'll get everything you want
I'm t. eventual green card holder and I'm a bit on the older side so I want to hurry up to make it in before 35, but I am fully mentally prepared for that not to be the case. Corona job scarcity certainly didn't help. I am also aware that if I do get in I will likely have less possibilities than my younger counterparts, but I feel I owe it to myself to try to be everything I can be. I would have joined my countries military, but unfortunately its extremely outdated and has virtually no budget
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>>48420820
I'm not in the military, but it doesn't seem like rocket science. They could just find your previous addresses and ISPs, subpoena your records for clearance purposes, and subpoena 4chan for posts from the associated IPs.
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>>48420498
Pretty much the only thing I did when I was off work was drink myself into oblivion
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>>48420872
The average age in any branch's special forces is higher than you think. I distinctly recall Pat McNamara discussing his training and how he, in the early 1980's was training alongside Vietnam veterans. Don't count yourself out just because you aren't 18, a guy like you will easily outperform everyone that joined out of high school. I will never forget getting mogged by a fucking 28 year old Lance Corporal who had a rack 3 ribbons high
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>>48420727
That guy posts in /syria general/ every so often. He's an Ethiopian himself iirc

>>48420787
Countries like Ethiopia aren't quite so fun to invade. Brutal terrain and hostile patriotic natives who have a good military history. There's a good chance of another BHD happening there

We have a long history of cooperation with them so we'll take several steps to avoid engaging them directly until we have no other option. France is in the process of building them a Navy in Djibouti so if we Libyaed them it'd drive a massive wedge in the already rapidly growing divide between the U.S. and EU foreign policy

Geopol in the 2020s will be like nothing before it, so who knows what'll happen
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can I bring my waifu pillow to boot camp?
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>>48420879
Anon, they do not give a shit about anonymous posting on a backwater site unless you are repeatedly making specific and credible threats, everyone here who says otherwise is fucking with you.
t. posted on 4chins since 07 and have since been intel in the military, a contractor with a clearance, and worked at a triple letter agency
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>>48420879
This. It'd be so easy, though probably a mountain of paperwork that nobody really wants to do unless you're super important.
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>>48420879
>i have no idea what I'm talking about
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>>48420057
You can't even write a comment with correct punctuation
At least substantiate your shit so I can fix whatever you're complaining about
>>48420092
If you want to be 'hard' join the Marines as a rifleman
Nobody wants to fuck up their bodies during BCT trying to show off to some 40 ASVAB score 88M Drills that can't call cadence or inspire an 18 year old to save their life
Still, give me something specific and I'll consider changing it
>>48420407
Those were the black guys, this is the third time I'm telling you this, your reading comprehension is terrible
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>>48420438
>You have no excuse not to become a Ranger
How do you feel about POGs becoming Rangers without reclassing to 11B? Any ranger qualified soldier is able to reclass to 11B at any time.
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>>48420820
>>48420879
>>48420975
You guys are so fucking retarded
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>>48420952
>a guy like you will easily outperform everyone that joined out of high school. I will never forget getting mogged by a fucking 28 year old Lance Corporal who had a rack 3 ribbons high
Damn haha, the older anons I spoke to stressed the importance of being in peak shape to outperform all the skinny HS kids. If anything, I will never stop trying until its over. Im obviously not criticizing the pipeline but a while ago I recall an anon who told a story about an NCO turned SF who complained about -sof babies- because, given the SF mission I infer it would be better to have mature guys with actual life experience. I certainly know I was a huge disrespectful shitbag when I was 20
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>>48421044
sof babies as sof support, not 18 series. if a soft skill soldier gets group as his first assignment, they don't experience the bullshit of the big Army and they get spoiled
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>>48421061
>sof babies as sof support, not 18 series.
Ah yes that makes much more sense, so they are mentored and prepared for the SF life
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>>48421044
>If anything, I will never stop trying until its over

Things you said before sex

Lmao
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>>48421078
18x get their blue cord at Benning before they even start selection, group pogs just go to jump school and think they're cool because they wear the same patch
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>>48421044
Old guys are slower on average, so where you need to invest more time is running. If you are running faster than 18 year olds, then you are in great shape
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Hey guys I'm about to enlist in the Airforce Reserves. What job should I pick if I want to get a high killcount? Also thank you all for your service <o
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>>48421146
Your killcount will reach 1 when you dome yourself
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>>48421146
F-22/35 pilot, drop JDAMs.
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>>48421078
...no
It means you don't have to do stupid bullshit normal units have to do like mandatory PT at 0430 and people nagging you about your haircut and stupid regs dictating your life while being micromanaged.
The mission is the focus so you can get away with tons of shit if you're a shitbag. Which is exactly why fit POGs try to get a group spot so they can avoid big army crap and rack up a million deployments
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>>48421245
Oh I see. I wasn't trying to phrase it like being condescending to them or anything of the sort. So that is what the -big army bs- means, yes I have heard of the relaxed grooming standards. Thank you for the clarification
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the next poster is a pog
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>>48421275
No you should be condescending to them, they're nowhere close to special forces and never leave the keys. They're "elite" for whatever POG job they've got but for most MOS that isn't a high standard, just meet the PT reqs once and you're in
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hey
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>>48421479
haha pog >>48421540
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>>48419503
What’s reception like with COVID?
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what % of active duty guys do yous reckon did drugs and lied about it on their enlistment forms? what about % of officers?
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>>48421910
No less than 50% for enlisted. No less than 30% for officers. I knew more than a handful who smoked bud at every duty assignment.
It's getting better but during the GWOT it was a win if the worst thing you were was a functioning alcoholic.
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Can the military get medical records from another country?

I want to enlist but in my home country of canada I was given SSRIs once when I was 15 (never took them).
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>>48421978
They can’t even get them from the US
It’s hilarious how people think there’s this massive database that exists that shows every doctor you have ever been to and everything you’ve done or talked about with them
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>>48422030
Canada is different. It may be easier to find it there than it is in the US. Can they somehow contact the canadian government and ask?
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>Its a "within 3 months, enlistedfag makes friends with the base locals who all seem to have a criminal background" episode

How in the fuck do enlistedfags do it?
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>>48422144
not that guy but are you the anon studying in Canada who was from a 3rd world country who commented on the -ywn be a tier 1 operator- thread the other day?
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>>48422157
No, not me. Can you help me out here? Really want to join, but scared of them finding out somehow.
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How much would a normal person earn extra on a deployment? both combat and non-combat?
without special duties like airborne
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>>48422163
>Earn extra
Do what the senior enlisted do, groom some junior enlisted females into a prostitution ring.

Also why are you already scrounging for money? Did you pump out some kids that fast?
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>>48422161
>Are anti-depressants disqualifying? (top) Question: What are the consequences for bringing prescribed anti-depression medication?
Response 1: Anti depressants are disqualifying for 1 year after you stop taking them. You MUST stop with your doctors advice, DO NOT stop on your own. These medications often have to be reduced slowly to lower side effects and reduce risk of relapse. Once you are off and depression free for 1 year get copies of your treatment paperwork, including therapy notes and take them with you to your recruiter. They will submit the documents to MEPS for review. MEPS will either DQ you, allow you to physical and enlist, or allow you to physical with a waiver (most likely).

-from an article-
The morning after Veterans Day, USA Today published an investigation that rippled through the Army community: This August, for the first time since soldier suicides spiked in 2009, the service began offering waivers to recruits with histories of drug and alcohol abuse, depression, bipolar disorder, and “self-mutilating” behaviors like cutting — conditions that previously disqualified would-be enlistees.

The reason for the apparent watering down of standards, USA Today suggested, was “a reaction to its difficulties in recruiting,” part of a broader Army trend to meet “recruiting goals by accepting more marginally qualified recruits.”
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>>48422161
https://vsee.com/blog/hipaa-canada-health-information-privacy/
PS - if there is anything I learned from /meg/ is that its not over until its over. I suggest you at least talk to a recruiter first and see where you stand. a LOT of people lie on MEPS or dont disclose shit
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>>48422166
No, I can avoid a deployment and possibly a few more if I want but is it worth it?
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>>48422187
Dodge deployments, if you extra money just have kids.

And if you really want extra money get a second job
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>>48422183
Nah man, I never even took it. I just was prescribed it and then I never ended up even taking it, just threw the whole thing in the garbage after it sat on my desk for a few weeks.

My main concern is can the us military get access to any records from another country.
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>>48422202
I honestly dont think so. Im from latin america and that is not even on my radar, because technically speaking I do have a DQing condition. Im personally not going to disclose shit at MEPs. You wont really get a definitive answer until you speak with a recruiter unfortunately but once again, I seriously doubt they can even do that. The recruiter is on your side most of the time, they want to get you in
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>>48422202
PS - if you can stomach it, you can go to plebbit /r/army and ask there. I know for a fact they have recruiters who sometimes go there. You can also try the subplebbits for the other branches
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I was wondering cause I have really no idea how it works but, how the fuck do I move my shit when I enlist? Do I bring my stuff after I finish basic training or when I reach my first duty station or whatever? Also I have a bunch of random shit from game collecting over the years, do I bring that to the barracks or should I just leave it with my parents and only bring the bare essentials?
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>>48422456
Leave it with your parents until you get out of AIT
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>>48422456
Wait until you get to first duty station before mailing/shipoing/driving all your shit over. If you have a AIT thats longer than 6 months, have the essentials mailed to you (clothes, games, shit you actually use, computer, etc.). When i was in, i kept all my shit in a storage space i rented off base. The rooms in the barracks are pretty small, especially if you have a roommate, but you can fit a good deal of shit in them. Always be wary of thieves though. Get renters insurance, even if you live in the barracks. Its 7 bucks a month usually, but it saves you the hassle of having to pay a shit ton to replace the tv/computer/sound system some asshole stole from you.
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>>48422192
That's what i was thinking deployments mean nothing other than some cash which is a extra $250 a month without the ability to spend it.
I might just go back to korea and sham the rest of my contract
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>>48422494
how do I minimize the amount of shit that would get stolen by some faggot?
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>>48422501
>how do I minimize the amount of shit that would get stolen?
Keep your nice stuff at home, don't buy more nice stuff until you have your own place.

>how do I minimize the amount of shit that would get stolen by some faggot?
Leave all the gay porn at home.
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>>48422501
You will usually have a big closet or dresser you can lock with a padlock, put your small valuables away every morning (laptop, watches, etc). TV and computer tower, you will just have to risk it. Just take good pictures of them and their serial numbers in case they do get stollen and you find out some guy has ones that look exactly like yours and you have proof they stole your shit. Clothes wise, specifically uniforms (people steal shit from laundry all the time), either write your name on them, sit in the laundry room for the 2 hours to wash and dry, or just always have 2 sets of spare uniforms you will always have in your closet that you can wear until you buy new uniforms.
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That jackson diary is pathetic, the absolute state of the army kek
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>>48422823
What astounded me was the talk of all the stealing.
PT shirts?

In the Marines, we put our names on everything. Granted, it was just to help us not forget our own names, but it did prevent thievery.
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>>48422823
>>48422894
Agreed. This is the most zoomer shit ive ever read.
>complaining to IG about not getting 15min to eat
i know he didnt say he did that, but he implied he did with all his dial 4 for the IG bullshit
>females constantly hitting on him, and him brushing it off
Sure thing pal
>complaining about people not wearing underwear IN the shower
Very homophobic

Not gonna lie, this anon sounds like a little bitch. The type where you get this automatic primal instinct to punch in the face.

Also, holy shit BCT in covid sounds easy. I went to jackson back in 2010, and that essay tells me exactly why drill sgts need to yell and break people down. That kid still has a chip on his shoulder and a privilaged attitude. Hes going to have a real fun time on a deployment and at his real unit with that kind of attitude.
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What's the best way to land a duty station at say, the Pentagon or a testing grounds facility? Mainly just talking about anywhere exotic
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>>48423300
you apply for it once you're in. the spots are extremely limited and competitive (for WH). as for testing sites like Aberdeen or something, if you have the right MOS you can reup for duty station of choice and try to get it.
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>>48419503
Is JROTC worth doing nowadays? Have a kid going into high-school
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>>48423300

>exotic

There are one-off duty stations for every branch.

The Navy has Hawaii, which isn't a hidden gem by any means. Also duty stations in Rota, Spain and Sigonella (Sicily), Italy. They're somewhat limited to what part of the the Navy you're in.

SeaBees (construction workers with guns) can go to some pretty wild places. They also do yardwork up at Camp David. No idea what the fuck that is about.

There's a Naval Air Station called Point Mugu. It's in commifornia, but it's about 20 minutes north of Malibu. Pretty rad duty station. Good fishing on base.

The Air Force has some pretty good spots as well. Eglin AFB is in Fort Walton Beach. There's actually a few bases in that area.
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>>48423418

No.

If they commission (outside of direct-input fields) they'll be an O-1 like everybody else.

Enlisted, they *might* get a free paygrade boost to E-2 or E-3 in bootcamp depending on the branch. Not important. It's like an extra $100/month at best and they'll pick those ranks up with enough time anyway. It's a waste of time. The ONLY benefit I've seen JROTC provide is that some of them retain how to do rifle drill. Only ever comes up when we need an honor guard.

More often than not, it just makes weirdos. 90% of the JROTC kids I've served with were social-darwinism rejects. Nobody liked them.

Unless your kid needs discipline, but there are better avenues than JROTC.
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>>48421835
read the pastebin
not much different than normal, just force you to wear a mask the whole time and give you a covid test, that's the only real difference
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>>48421978
>>48422144
>>48422161
Why do people ask this shit every thread? No, nobody gives a fuck
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>>48422202
>>48422257
Horrible advice, horrible questions
They're going to tell you to be honest about everything and completely fuck yourself over with 2 years worth of MEPS visits and waivers
Just fucking lie, jesus christ
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>>48422894
You can have your name on anything you want, you're not going to check every single person's shirt to see if its yours.
>>48422982
>i know he didnt say he did that, but he implied he did with all his dial 4 for the IG bullshit
Why the fuck would I be retarded enough to bring the Drill's wrath down upon me? I actively tried to expose the people who did that shit so we could handle it in the bay. In like the last two fucking weeks some new faggot to the bay was on the phone at like 2200 and I told the black bloc so they could deal with him because the day later it came out someone called to complain about some dumb shit again
>That kid still has a chip on his shoulder and a privilaged attitude
Yeah, because in my MOS you're required to know how to spell privilege
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>>48423516
Can't it come back to fuck you over later on?
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>>48423543
>in my MOS you're required to know how to spell privilege
Chief Diversity Officer, huh
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What are the odds of waivers for asthma medicine and SSRIs if you were never actually diagnosed, just given a "maybe"

My doctor never officially diagnosed me with depression or asthma, just suspected I might've had it. I can run a 6 minute mile and played basketball, I just got occasional wheezing during certain weather.

As for SSRIs, I took them for a month before dropping them entirely and never using them again.
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>>48423516
I wonder how many people actually have issues that they need to lie about. I have a hard time believing everyone is so fucking sick/crippled.

My processing, my sister's, my friends' were all EZPZ.

>Any medical problems?
No, sir.
>Any criminal problems?
No, sir
>School?
Here's copies of my diploma and college transcripts, sir.
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i signed an 03 contract but can only run maybe a mile and a half max

how fucked am i
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>>48423618

Asthma? Your chances will go poof just like your little inhaler.

If you need a rescue inhaler, the military is not for you.

SSRIs, depression? Were you committed by legal process? If no: don't mention it. Just don't kill yourself.

Your medical records through your GP or whatever aren't part of some searchable database. Your recruiter will ask about medical history. Everything is based on what YOU say.
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>>48423641
better start training, kid.

When's your ship date?
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>>48423660
in june

parris island is gonna be fun in the heat of the summer
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>>48423653
>Asthma? Your chances will go poof just like your little inhaler.
>If you need a rescue inhaler, the military is not for you.

I haven't used an inhaler in years. My doctor suspects I never even had it to begin with now. When I run or swim I do it without any meds. The prescriptions are still on record, though.

As for SSRIs, never was diagnosed either. I just went to my doctor at 15 and said I was kind of sad after I saw a therapist for like two days. He never diagnosed me for it, said take it if you want. Took them for 3 weeks before seeing no change and I stopped taking them after. That was that.

I'm just imagining being in ten years and this info surfacing and getting discharged. That would suck.
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>>48423681
>June
Oh, phew.

Yeah, you have plenty of time to get in shape. Start now.
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>>48423695
what if i enjoy pain? i figure there will be worse off people than me
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I'm heading to MEPs tomorrow for medical and DLAB and shit, they want me to sign by Friday and ship next Monday to basic, i was expecting to get a relatively quick ship date but fuckin one week is rough, should I stall for a bit or bite it and just go?
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>>48423703
>edgelord

perfect thank god you went Marines
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>>48423712
sometimes there's a quick ship bonus, see if your recruiter put you in for that
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>>48423685
>on record
What record? As a Christian Scientist you've never been to the doctor.
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>>48423759
Were you? Because you have to agree that having an entire career 10+ years knowing it can get fucked in 1 second if some asshole randomly finds those records is kind of shit
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>>48423743
Afaik, no quick ship bonus, just the 20k for signing up infantry, assuming I fail the DLAB and don't get the 35P spot
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>>48423808
pretty radical ends of the Army MOS spectrum
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>>48423773
Nobody gives a shit the second you pass through the Moment Of Truth.
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>>48423820
I got a 93 on the asvab, and if it was up to me I'd go do cool kid shit as 18x, but I'm not cool enough for that, originally I wanted intel or signal, but after a few weeks of bullshit literally zero MOS that I'm interested in have shown up. If i get 35p, i either enjoy it, or I just reclass in a few years to another intel MOS, or go infantry, jump school, and try for rangers when I'm not an out of shape piece of shit
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>>48423844
Haven't people been discharged a year after getting in after being caught lying on their medical history?
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>>48423543
>spell checking on a cambodian basket weaving forum
Yup, I expected as much from you
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>>48423854
Idk, but I had the exact same asthma history as you and that's how I got around it. Hell, I didn't even get in trouble when I brought my ADHD diagnosis in later on so I could go back on doctor speed.
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>>48423850
Go read last thread, this former 35P was talking about DLI.
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>>48423901
Yeah i read about it been following the threads for awhile, corroborates what i already knew if anything, I'm even more likely to just go infantry and say fuck it, unless someone else convinced me to do something else in the next day.
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>>48423896
>Hell, I didn't even get in trouble when I brought my ADHD diagnosis in later on so I could go back on doctor speed.
Wait what? You told them you have adhd and they didn't discharge you for fraudulent enlistment? How far in were you when you told them?
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>>48423916
if you go 35P and volunteer for airborne you're pretty much guaranteed group because they're hurting for SOT-As bad. if you ride that out a little bit you can do some pretty cool shit. also in case anyone isn't tracking, SOT-A slots have been designated V-coded positions by USASOC, meaning that you will get a chance to get your short tab. In fact, some groups will not let you be a team sergeant without it. tactical 35 series is probably the best of both worlds in terms of action and job prospects

>t. prior sota
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>>48423958
Yeah, I'm just wondering if the shit slog will be worth the potential to do cool kid shit. The only intel jobs were 35m and 35p.

Also I'm 6'10" and out of shape, which is why I didn't go option 40 right off the bat, which was offered with 35p.

If i pass the dlab then there's a day or two of contract negotiations i get to do before i finish MEPs, so i still have options.

>Inb4 retard
Why do you think I'm joining the army, I'm full retard.
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>>48423985
yeah regiment is hurting for OSTs as well (ranger SOT-As).

either way you look at it, you'll have many more options with linguist than infantry
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>>48423985
Also, sota is basically what I want to do, but I'm on an unforgiving timeline, as in I'm currently homeless and unemployed due to covid fucking my job industry. I wanna be a cool kid comms/intel guy, why the fuck the army gotta dick me around.
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>>48423916
No lie, go infantry or whatever combat job on a 3 year contract. I was a 35N for 5 years and I honestly regret not going for a combat job. Not so much for the actual combat, but the training and skills. If I were to do it all over again (strictly to get back to where I am today in my current civilian intel job), i would do a 3 year infantry contract, then reclass into 35N or 35M (without a language) for 3 years. How it works is once you are about a year out from your contract ending, you can reclass or reenlist. So at the 2 year mark on a 3 year contract, I can reenlist and reclass into whatever mos as long as I have 3 years on the contract. So lets say I went 35N, i would extend my current 3 year contract another 2 years, and i would then serve a total of 5 years in the army (2 years as an 11b, 3 years as a 35N). You only need 1 year of work exp in signals, and an SCI clearance to jump straight into contracting. The reason why I regret not doing a combat type job is because I am a gun guy and like to do tactical courses and shit on my off time. It just sucks i never actually got to do that kind of shit when I was in. Dont get me wrong, my career was great, but if I did my hindsight plan, I would have qualified to end up in the same job im in now.
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>>48423985
Do 35M. Dont do 35P. There are literally only 3 things that make 35P worth it. Sota, great skills, and group support. All of which you need to be semi high speed. Otherwise its shitty. Also, job outlook on the outside is very small. 35M you can get qualified as a linguist to throw on the resume PLUS you get HUMINT and counter intel to throw on the resume. Also, regiment, at least back in 2010-2015 ONLY ever took their 35M out and about as translators. The 35P stayed on base.
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>>48424027
totally anecdotal, i know, but the majority of 11b-35 are insufferable assholes. they are so up their own asses about being infantry and calling people pogs and about how much they miss being a warrior, and then in the same breath say how they switched because they couldn't promote or wanted better job prospects or that intel is a better quality of life. the hypocrisy is amazing with these guys.
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>>48423498
Yeah, rather than do JROTC, put your shitty kid on a sports team so that he has an athletic background going into ROTC
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>>48423618
>My doctor never officially diagnosed me with depression or asthma, just suspected I might've had it. I can run a 6 minute mile and played basketball
why the fuck do people keep doing this
it has to be a meme
there's no possible way this guy thinks he has shit wrong with him
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>>48423850
>>48423916
35P
35N
35M
nothing else
also get quick ship in your contract, it's free $20,000
don't sign unless you get it
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>>48423418
Nope. Have your kid do soccer/lacrosse/cross country to build up a good cardio base. Then have him apply his sophmore year for an academy if you want him to go officer. Honestly best pathway is rotc in university or that reserve option version where he goes through basic and job training then goes straight to uni for free. If you want your kid to get laid all senior year, have him do that summer boot camp enlistment with the usmc when hes 17 so he can roll up in dress blues to school.
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>>48424510
They just called and offered me 35F with airborne, shipping at end of the month, you're saying it's not worth it if I want intel field?

The more I fuck around the more I want to just go infantry because of all the bullshit right now.
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>>48424547
35F is intel, it's just slightly worse than 35N. If you can get the quick ship bonus it's probably worth it, just make sure you get that. If it isn't specifically written in your contract you aren't getting it but you're eligible. It sounds like they're hurting for numbers so they should do it for you
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>>48424547
There is no "bullshit" right now and going 11 series instead of 35 is going to be the biggest mistake of your life
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>>48423887
new
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>>48424563
After they got my test scores, I've been steering the direction of my enlistment more or less, I gave them a list and they've been checking the system twice a day, i only reserved infantry to get a quick ship date.

>>48424563
The list of jobs is shit right now, and some days there's only 2 options in the system, it changes every other day or so, but for example I haven't seen a since 25 series job in the last month and some change. Hell, when i was reserving infantry yesterday, the airborne option disappeared right as I was reserving it.
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>>48424599
I've been trying to get a 35 or 25 since I walked into the office, and there's only been 35p and 35m available the entire time afaik, the other options changed daily.
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>>48424490
Exercise-induced asthma is relatively common. There are Tour de France cyclists who have asthma and they're some of the greatest endurance athletes on earth.
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>>48419849
>mfw
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>>48420952
>I will never forget getting mogged by a fucking 28 year old Lance Corporal who had a rack 3 ribbons high

He probably got demoted for bitch slapping an NCO
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Im scared to enlist brehs
Tried calling for an appintmen an office and they didn't pick up
Can i try texting or get a recruiter to contsct me fuirs
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>>48420879
>it'd be easy to do for 180,000 people every year
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>>48425165
just walk in the front door.
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>>48425165
>didn't pick up
let me guess, air force?
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>>48423508
Just stop replying to them.
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>>48422501
Also about what old dude was saying about renters insurance; I used usaa and they will cover your CIF gear once you meet your deductible. Only thing I ever lost was my ach mount. But people lose ach/assault packs/plates and other shit which could be very expensive out of pocket.
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>>48425165
Literally just go to there office. They literally aren't doing shit
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>>48425203
>>48425210
>>48425254
oke the army guy called me and im omw there
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>>48425307
When he asks about your medical history, save yourself the trouble and just say no to everything.
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>>48425339
I already said i got a surgery on my nuts over the phone since I thought this stuff can be easily tracked kek
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>>48419822
i saw this happen to a kid that didn't pass butthole inspection.
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>>48419836
nothing would likely happen. compton is mostly mexican now and they hate niggers and say the nigger word non-stop.
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>>48425356
Fucking retard lol.
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>>48424547
350F here. Take it.
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>>48425481
>butthole inspection

Elaborate
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>>48425990
you spread your cheeks and a doctor looks at your butthole with a flashlight
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How badly do you have to fuck up your military career to be asked to work at MEPS
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>>48425984
Cont

To elaborate on why you should take it, is at AIT you can apply for rasp and get in on it with zero competition (assuming you are physically fit enough). Also, with airborne you can get attached as special forces group support, which is where i actually got to do good intel shit.
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>>48426020
Sometimes it's a move that allows you to live in a place you otherwise would not be able to as you transition from mil to civi life. One of the docs that had us doing the duck walk and other range of motion tests had an SF tab, so it's not like this guy was a complete fuck up. He was just an older guy clearly doing his last coupe of years until he could retire while living in a city, rather than out in Fort Buttfuck
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>>48426026
Yeah, I went ahead and accepted/reserved it, but don't sign my papers until friday, I have 5 weeks to get ready for boot camp now instead of 5 days, then I have all of boot to get in shape enough for RASP.

Now say I can't get a spot for RASP by the time I finish AIT, how hard is it to score a slot after I get my unit assignment? Recruiter says its hard, but not impossible, so I assume if i don't get it, I'm fucked for my whole term?
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>>48426061
Yeah but what about the young guys I saw working there
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>>48426159
Seems like a trade-off. You get to live in the area near MEPS rather than on a base, but in exchange you have to witness more dicks than your average 4chan user and lose faith in humanity after dealing with some of the dumbest, slowest, and weakest members of society.
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Is there a gaming MOS?
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>>48423452
AM1 who has been to Sicily and Pt Mugu. Both are pretty cool bases. Hawaii isn't a hidden gem either but you will find people still fall over themselves trying to get orders to go to Hawaii, it's a beautiful place to spend three years. Rota is also absolutely disgusting, no one I've ever met has liked going there.

Met a lot of Seabees being at Pt Mugu, considering it shares a location with Hueneme. They do get a lot of cool jobs, talking about DEVGRU, Camp David like you mentioned and a few others. My best friend is a Seabee and I went through C-WAY once to try to convert into BU but this was following draw-down and the Navy was experiencing a lot of Seabees staying in because their job became cake after we started withdrawing from Afghanistan. So I asked a few questions about this.

Seabees going to Camp David skate for their entire time there, it's hard to get there and its death for your career, kind of like twilight years. DEVGRU mainly takes E-5+ BU's, you don't really do anything but stay inside the wire but if you want a deployment under your belt, it is a possibility. You can also go to the Arctic with some cargo command at Norfolk but that's mainly CM's and you're going to basically be working at a gigantic warehouse with a bunch of sea-going rates.

Seabees are also really hard to get. No convert-in's for a long time. I think there's a SW here in the thread that frequents sometimes. If someone is looking at the Seabees, make it clear to your recruiter and you will ALWAYS have convert-out opportunities with the Seabees too unless you're an EA, so keep that in mind when you sign, it isn't like signing Nuke and being stuck as one at all.
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>>48425990
every recruit has their anal folds inspected with a tape measure. they can tell with 99% certainty if you've stuck stuff in there and how big and how often.
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>>48423418
Make them do a sport and then try to get them into the Civil Air Patrol or Sea Cadets or some shit, even the Boy Scouts is better. The JROTC you learn fucking nothing and because its in a high school environment you are seen as a loser because it fosters the "youre better than everyone" mentality and for some reason all the autists that wouldnt pass meps join
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>>48426109
you have all of AIT to prepare for RASP, use AZ altitude to your advantage
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>>48425990
>>48426313
It's true
t. recruit
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What should you do if combat arms is the only thing that interests you but you recognize that joining combat arms right now would be pointless?
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>>48426367
join combat arms and play pretend for a few years and get out
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>>48426367
Special forces or pick an MOS/AFSC/Rate that isn't pointless where you still shoot guns, e.g. 68w and any combat engineer mos
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>>48426020
Some of those guys are fuckups. Some of the non-medical enlisted are fried from racking up deployments and need a break.
>>48426061
This. At the end of the day they need X amount of people to staff MEPS facilities, so they'll get their numbers any way they can.
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>>48426109
Bro I ain't sure about 35f but I have seen the PT studs in other intel mos be offered it once they graduated from ait. If you really want to do it then go into ait with a 270 pt score and tell your cadre you want to do rasp. By the time ait is over be pushing 295/300 pt score. And the running would help at airborne school. People tend to party hard at airborne school, or did, so just don't forget to work on your push ups and pull ups. And whatever you do do not quit rasp. If you self eliminate your done for, but if you just suck your way through they will pass you bc they need 35 series, its not like your an 11 bang, aka a dime a dozen. You got it man. And in basic just keep your head low and be a grey man. That is the best way to slide through basic.
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>>48421978
Even if they could, what would you lose out on if they knew you took SSRI's?
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>>48426401
at my height, even keeping my head low I'm gonna stick out above everyone else, but thanks for the advice

Fuck partying, I'm here to do cool kid shit, I get to party after I'm done being a cool kid.
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Anyone have any advice or information on branching Army Armor? How is being placed in a scout unit? I want one of those hats, on a serious note is a scout placement worse than heavy?
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>>48426479
tank
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>>48426109
350F here. How long is your contract?

You can realistically get ready for rasp by then assuming you can at least score 50s in each APFT event right now. Assuming you are at that level, start researching PSOA and hip abductor stretches, do couch to 5k, push ups and sit ups every other hour for the next 4 weeks in addition to normal workout routine. For the final week before you ship out just stretch, and cut back on the workouts so you dont accidently injure yourself right before you leave. When you get to bct, youre going to have to improve on your own time. Run every chance you get, push up and sit ups during breaks and down time, and stretch every morning and night. From what i hear from the kids, there is still very little PT in bct, so it will all be on you.

If you dont pick up rasp at ait, it is difficult to apply for it later on, but your chances are still decently high due to the fact that you will have no competition when competing for a 35F slot. But if you did miss out, just focus on getting into group support. Ask your career field manager about what slots are available for what units, you can realistically request duty assignments. For rasp, just keep emailing their recruiters until someone responds. If you tell them youre airborne qualified and almost max out on your apft and acft scores they will work with you.

Fyi, if they are still doing it during covid, ft huachuca is one of the few places that host the GAFPB. Get that shit.
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>>48425971
Shit i fucked up
Its gonna take fucking forever now
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I’m an awesome runner, a good swimmer and I can lift a lot, but anything calisthenics-related absolutely smokes me. Should I dial it back with the weights to get better at body weight stuff? I’m a SWOE-V candidate. Can anyone who’s made it through a SOF pipeline speak to what makes people the most successful?
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>>48426631
Do the armys new acft push ups, and do rowers. Obviously you need to do more calisthenics.
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>>48426631
>Should I dial it back with the weights to get better at body weight stuff?
yes. endurance and flexibility is always worth more than strength.
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>>48426631
>Can anyone who’s made it through a SOF pipeline speak to what makes people the most successful?
Navy EOD here. It's not BUD/S, but it's still not exactly a cakewalk, physically. However, this holds true for SEALs as well.
Like >>48426661 said, flexibility. Assuming you have the mental and emotional fortitude, and focusing strictly on the physical.

It's the big, burly gym rats that always get one injury after another. They weigh more than their body is supposed to so their knees and ankles are fucked. near-permanent shin splints. big, swole muscles means constant strains and tears.

Before I got in, I dropped about 15lbs of excess beach muscle in order to improve my distance running and I also started doing yoga to improve flexibility. A muscle that is stretched repeatedly won't tear as easily and a lighter body puts less stress.

After that, forget about your arms and chest, focus on core, back and legs.

Then, once you've made it, you can build up your beach muscles back up.
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>>48426631
Functional fitness is all about calisthenics. It's nice if you can carry around a telephone pole on your shoulders, but if you can't do some stupidly silly endurance exercise jumping jacks for half an hour straight, it'll be the end of you.
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>>48426631
Not sure what AFSOC pipelines look like but as long as you pass the PT tests and get through the pipeline gates, you're golden.
I went through RASP I and they didn't kick you out for taking a 2 second breather after 10 minute flutter kicks. They just yell at you.
Getting smoked is the point, usually to force you to grit through physical pain or think through a cognitive challenge during/afterwards.
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>>48426592
Aight, I believe the 35f contract is 4 or 5 years and some change for training, might be wrong about that though I won't have the updated paperwork in hand till tomorrow.
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>>48426813
If its more than 5 years pass on that. 35F is normally a 3.5 year contract. Do 4.5 years max. Even if there is a bonus. You can easily request airborne while at AIT if youre a PT stud.
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These threads are completely off topic
Thanks for proving the federal government has a direct hand in moderating this site you fucking retarded kike nigger cattle
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>>48426781
>>48426797
What’s even the point of all the calisthenic shit? Being good at calisthenics doesn’t make you any better at running, rucking, carrying heavy shit or being useful as a soldier in general from what I can tell. I’m open to being wrong, but it just seems outdated to me.
>>48426811
I’m passing the PAST test (pull-ups, sit-ups, push-ups, 1.5 mile run, two 25yd underwaters and a 500m swim) no problem, I’m just getting killed in calisthenics portions of development sessions. Yesterday I was the second fastest in the 2 mile run with an 11:52, and I was able to buddy carry people no sweat in a workout after that, but when we did a calisthenic circuit for 6 rounds, I was the last to finish.
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>>48426811
Why does everyone fail Cole range?
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>>48426975
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>>48426997
Oooooh youre endurance is shit. Go do more hiit.
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MERICA
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>>48427020
cringe 2007 meme
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>>48427035
shut up newbie
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>>48426997
>Being good at calisthenics doesn’t make you any better at running, rucking, carrying heavy shit
yes it does. Calisthenics is a great way to both fast and slow twitch muscle fibers and train the body to use them effectively in concert. You can't do that well, which is why sustained calisthenics kills you.

You're strong in short bursts and you can maintain speed over a long period but you aren't strong when it comes to sustained short exercises.

>or being useful as a soldier in general
that's more a function of training and experience, really
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>>48426914
Just got them to send me a updated copy, it's 3 years, 30 weeks
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>>48427131
With airborne? Lock that shit down anon.
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>>48426997
Keep working on your endurance. You don't have to lead the pack in every aspect of competency, just be 'good' at everything.

>>48427010
It's a suckfest and that's the point.
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>>48427146
Yep, with airborne. Should be signing this Friday, recruiter says he can't get me any signing bonuses, but I'll see what I can do between now and my final contract.
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How do officers quarters typically differ from enlisted quarters on a ship? Are officers still in confined and small sleeping areas, or are they given more room and storage?
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>>48427226
It's still small and cramped, but it's private.
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>>48427131
350F here. Very nice anon. If you end up not doing any cool shit or you hate the army, youll walk out with an SCI clearance, and a job title on your resume that you can use to con your way into any intel or security job.
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>>48427223
Dont worry about bonuses, you get taxed the shit out of them anyhow. Airborne as a bonus is good enough, especially on a 3 year contract.
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>>48427242
Realistically, i don't expect to do cool kid shit, i fully expect to desk surf intel reports till my eyes bleed while dealing with incompetent and petty command, at least I'll snag some experience and the GI Bill. But you know at least i get to attempt entry into cool kid shit adjacent stuff
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>>48427252
IDGAF about the money to be honest, but i went from 20k to zero, which eh, at least i get to go to jump school
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>>48427263
>while dealing with incompetent and petty command,
Even if it may turn out to be true (and, by the way, that's no guarantee) that's not a healthy attitude to have. Everyone will be able to tell you've got a chip on your shoulder about being ordered around by someone who went to college.

It's entirely possible you'll have some great COs who are looking out for your career and your development, but if you go in with a shitty attitude, your expectations will always be met.
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>>48427263
350F here. Oh you can do some very cool shit on the intel side. Meet alot of cool people, work on some cool missions. Even the security side is interesting; antiterrorism/force protection, investigations, threat assessments, revoking peoples clearances for the most ridiculous shit, etc. I do both intel and security. CW3 350F in the reserves, mostly doing inspections on big units to make sure they process intel correctky, and on the civilian side im a gs12 security manager mostly inspections and that we dont hire criminals or terrorists to work with our uniformed folks.

The beauty if 35F is that its so general that you can potentially work with all different types of intel in literally every type of unit.
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Is it worth continuing to do sit ups to prepare for Navy pft or should I skip it and switch over to planks entirely
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>>48427324
Right, I'm not trying to go in with a chip on my shoulder, I'm very much planning to go in, keep my head down, and do my job regardless of circumstances, I'm just not naive enough to assume it's all rainbows and sunshine working a cushy 9-5. You get out what you put in right? I plan on doing a damn good job even in worst case scenario.
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>>48427389
That's better.

I enlisted with a degree (It was a different time. The Iraq War was in full swing and I had a 2.7GPA) and went in with an attitude about being ordered around by people whom I considered my peers, not betters.

I eventually realized that we help each other out when I saw the difference in morale a good CO makes. A good officer makes sure his joes aren't just spinning their wheels and he looks like a good leader when they're well-motivated. Everyone wins.

I had put in to attend EOCA but I had heard there were no available slots. My platoon leader, apparently made a total pain in the ass of himself finding a slot for me. He could have just said "Sorry, there's nothing available."
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Are the airborne and quick ship bonuses always available? I'm trying to find info on what are the current available bonuses but for example the goarmy website only lists all bonuses and says -find a recruiter-
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how do I get a job where I can brose 4chan all day to look for terrorists
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>>48427587
They are always available.....for different jobs. The only way to find out is going to a recruiter. They have access to a database of available jobs and associated bonuses. There can be an 11b 4 year option 40 one week, and the next week all thats available are 5 year 11b no bonus contracts.
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>>48427603
Air force
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>>48427587
a recruiter tells you what's available at the moment
>>48427347
they're going to make him a ped screener
>>48427263
don't go into the army with this shitty attitude
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>>48426975
couldn't agree more
fuck these threads and may all the recruiters catch cancer and die a slow and painful death.
also, fuck you OP. hope you choke on shit.
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>>48427620
Ah I see, thanks for the info
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can a neet get security clearance

i have no friends and no real history of employment
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>>48427700
Yup, mark unemployed for the past 10 years, and put your parents friends as references.
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>>48423927
The doctor you see when you’re in is someone you choose and he cares about what’s best for you. Different from the MEPs doctor who wants to root out people for whatever reason possible.
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>>48423418
no do CAP, lot of people with Important Civilian Jobs are senior members in CAP and it's a great place for your kid to network while also doing cool military stuff.
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>>48425990
just did my butthole inspection yesterday. An elderly doctor stares at your butthole and also grabs your scrotum and makes you cough

if you fail butthole inspection you are DQed
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really enjoyed hanging out at MEPS all day yesterday while the service liaison chewed out my recruiter for fucking up paperwork and not actually briefing me for the shit I needed to bring with me

was fun sitting outside the army office watching all the army shippers talk shit about the NG kids sitting next to them while also bragging about all the hard fucking drugs they did, with one kid even admitting he dealt weed

but they're all gonna be ranger snipers HA. They're in for a rude fucking awakening. Glad I swore into a reserve component, I would not want to serve alongside these dishonest idiot douchebags. Who the fuck brags about FELONIES inside of a Federal facility
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>>48427779
>The doctor you see when you’re in is someone you choose and he cares about what’s best for you.
t. sperg and social autist here so no bully, but
Not that anon but I cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not. The Ft. Jackson pastebin anon said that the basic doctors are generally nice and pleasant, so you mean once you are in the docs wont rat you out for anything?
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>>48427779
>>48427969
you don't choose your doctor in the military, and certainly not at MEPS or BCT. when you're actually in the service you're assigned a PCM. my last unit my PCM changed no less than 30 times in 4 years, i never met 5% of them
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>>48427969
and to add, don't tell your doctors shit. i know everyone says HIPPA and you're protected but I've seen people get crucified for trusting in doctors, even behavioral health
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>>48428027
>and to add, don't tell your doctors shit. i know everyone says HIPPA and you're protected but I've seen people get crucified for trusting in doctors, even behavioral health
Ahh I suspected as much. Very good info, thanks
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>>48427946
Good memories. MEPS was great for people watching.
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>>48427969
You can always just go to a doctor that you choose it doesn’t have to be the military doctor.
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>>48421033
Rangers are members of the 75th Ranger Regiment. Those are the only rangers. Anyone can go to Ranger school but that just makes you "ranger qualified" not a ranger. If you are in the 75th Ranger Regiment then you could be 11B or a number of other MOS's.
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i fucked up n mentioned a surgery that i gotta get a waiver for. my recruiter says i just needa typed note saying i can serve, and my doctor's saying there are very specific forms saying this patient can lift/squat/etc.
who's retarded here
besides me for mentioning the surgery
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>>48428027
HIPAA permits disclosure of patient information when required for reasons of "Public Benefit" and in the Public Benefit section, one of which is "to ensure proper execution of military missions" - if you have a medical condition which interferes with the ability to perform your duties, command has to be notified.
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>>48428079
glad I only have to go one more time and never again
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>>48427377
planks, even your recruiter will tell you this
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>>48428116
right, we're saying the same thing. most people are under the impression that everything you tell them is confidential and privileged but that's not the case at all
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>>48428109
they don't want a doctors note, they need the hospital records from the surgery and the follow-up appointment showing that you have normal function. Disclosing the surgery is GOOD, because otherwise they're going to ask why you got those scars and assume you're a cutter and send you to a psych consult and DQ you.

Anything that you have a scar for you have to explain, or they assume you self-mutilate.
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>>48428109
It's not just a doctor's note. They need to know what kind of surgery, specifically. The exact nature of the injury. "Broken ankle" can mean a simple fracture or an obliteration of the joint. They'll want the records the surgeon kept of the procedure and follow-up visits, and, it's actually quite helpful if you can also procure your physical therapy records as well.

Since you're giving them your surgical records, you might as well give them the records of how well you healed and how much effort was put into getting you back in fighting shape.
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>>48428229
>>48428166
fuuuck me. my scars are almost impossible to see.
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>>48428166
broke my arm in several places as a kid, had a big burn scar on the other arm, hurt one of my eyes and got surgery and there's a scar, didn't claim any of it. at MEPS they're like are you sure you've never had surgery? yep. for my airborne physical same thing,no broken bones? nope.

>some retard captain at airborne physical said he broke his ankle like 20 years ago and dq'd himself like a retard
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>>48428309
well did you fill out the huge fucking paper disclosing everything? no?

go to another recruiter and stfu.
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How good is health insurance for an enlisted dependents? Have a wife whose pregnant and to cover them both on my health insurance costs 40% of my income. Working two jobs now and I'm struggling to pay for all these costs.
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>>48428396
its good basic insurance, and you can add extras on it too for cheap as hell. i added dental and vision for like $30 extra bucks a month
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>>48428396
TRICARE is the best, most comprehensive coverage I've had in my life. Likewise for my wife.
If you're fine with getting everything done on post/base/installation you won't ever hear the terms "co-pay" or "deductible" until you get out.
The quality of care is another thing though. Especially with specialty services. Heard many a horror story about on-post maternity wards.

In my experience though, I have nothing bad to say about the treatment I gave or received.
>t. medic
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hate legs who are afraid to go airborne because "muh half inch of height"
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>>48424611
35M is unironically just way superior infantry
see
>>48424062
and
> tactical 35 series is probably the best of both worlds in terms of action and job prospects
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>>48427044
>newbie
please go back to plebbit
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>>48424868
YOU MEAN
IT'S HARD TO BREATHE
AFTER VIGOROUS EXERCISE???

???
How the fuck do these cracked Doctors get paid so much money
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>>48427946
>Glad I swore into a reserve component, I would not want to serve alongside these dishonest idiot douchebags

Hehe.
After getting going active -> guard on my first drill the PSG of another section showed me a .380 he carries every drill. This was on the same post I did my active time at.
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>>48428396
Depends on branch because facilities vary, I was in the same situation as you except pregnancy so I'll list it.

You will pay not a single dime UNLESS its caused by some bullshit circumstances like a car crash, that's the only times tricare is fucking annoying because if they can get out of paying they will, but this isn't that regular.

For you? You're going to have an issue cause of COVID-19 with your wife and her military ID. My wife had a ton of fucked up issues with her that she never addressed so when I got to boot and realized she couldn't get on base because she doesn't have an ID, yeah, fuck, but she is still in DEERS, all you need is your command at boot or a-school/tech school/ait to write a letter saying that she is allowed on base and this is a temporary ID.

The pregnancy will be smooth and completely covered. Good luck dude! The best thing about the military imo is tricare, no stresses at ALL
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>>48427946
>was fun sitting outside the army office watching all the army shippers talk shit about the NG kids sitting next to them


Most of the army people at my MEPS were NG not active weirdly. Nobody really ribbed each other too much
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>>48426249
Yeah, in the Air Force
(unironically)
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>>48428586
i know Utah national guard actually encourages soldiers to carry in uniform,i don't know if that's just Utah or all guard but I thought it was pretty wild seeing a bunch of E7s walking around with 1911s and big revolvers on their hips
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>>48426914
Can you write me a letter of recommendation so I can make secondary zone for SGT
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>>48427700
Yes, that's literally every 35 series. You're in 'good' company.
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>>48427969
Just because a good portion of them are good doesn't mean they're all good, just a word of warning
You do have to suss out everyone before you trust them with literally anything
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>>48428109
Lie, go to another recruiter, etc.
Much easier and less effort
Then you can claim disability for it afterwards
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New thread, boys!
>>48428693
New thread, boys!
>>48428693
New thread, boys!
>>48428693
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>>48428698
>essayons edition
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>>48428651
Pro tip, donate to a foundation 200 bucks on your units behalf. Dont tell them you paid for the little plaque that has your units name on the wall at the local community center. Show how great a volunteer you were on behalf of unit. Commander will promote you on the spot.
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>>48428612
>>48428586
>>48428556
Thank you guys for the information and it's encouraging to hear the health insurance is good.
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>>48428688
can my recruiter fuck me over in any way if i tell her to just not mention the surgery
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>>48428667
17, 25, and 35
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>>48427226
You will have a roommate, the state rooms are still small, but usually have a desk and bigger locker. Plus your bed isn't a fucking coffin rack.
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>>48428857
No, she has an active incentive to not say anything and get you through the pipeline as fast as possible
If she wants to include it, just refuse
If he still wants to include it, say "ok I'm going to another recruiter, goodbye"



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