Is there any reason to prefer a pcc over a micro roni? Assuming one has many g19s on hand?
>>48418769Roni smokes them all. You can't beat the weight and the form factor. Sold my AR-9 and my mp5 because the roni is just that much better. Also, by the time you put an RMR on there with a decent mount, you're into a great PCC for less than $1500.
PCCs have a longer barrel already and you can get different ergos. Micro Ronis/Braces give you glock reliability and glock parts/mags. Its a matter of whether you want a more enjoyable gun or a gun that is foreverproof.
I have one on my 10mm.
>>48418769What is the point of these things besides ergonomics?
>>48418804retsophaey desab>>48418815tuck your cards in a little closer, shill, you're about as subtle as rover's red rocket when your daughter comes home>>48418845taking a gun you already own and applying it to a different form factor and method of use. anybody knows a damn they're not very practical, but cool nontheless
>>48418845ever shot a pistol before?
>>48418845The third point of contact (brace) makes for a more stable stance/grip of the gun so your point defense weapon can now reach out to 100 yards with ease.
>>48418815Post time stamped photo of your mp5 or shut the fuck up right now
>>48418895lmao kek but he sold it anon!
>>48418895Reading comprehension. I said I sold both. The AR9 is pictured next to the roni.>>48418815Oy vey goyim.
>>48418954Oops meant to reply to>>48418870
>>48418836Where'd you get the white? Or did you rattle can it?
>>48418954I thought you were being sarcastic. You like it that much?
>>48418981My grey one came white.
>>48418991Yeah its pretty damn good. I think the only thing that might be a deal breaker would be I'm not sure if it would work as a supressor host. It might, I just haven't looked into it. I only have one stamp and it lives on the RPR.
>>48418954How do you take pics like this without your feet being in the pic, and it being straight over head? Are you spiderman?
>>48419017Nah, I just hold the camera up and crop it later. I really need to take an updated one for insurance that one is like 3 years old.
>>48418769If they were the price they should be ($75-$200) it'd be awesome for pistol owners that wanted to fill the role of a PCC but didn't want to shell out the money for an entirely new gun. I thought the things were stupid like most of the people on here until I got one, it quickly became one of my favorite guns to shoot and I could see it being of real use to stretch 1 gun into 2 roles fantastically (that of home defense and concealed carry).8/10Definitely would recommend.
>>48419035I paid $160 for my grey one. They pop up used from time to time.
>>48419048Oh that's how I got mine, I was just buying it for the glock and the red dot ect it came with. Ended up being one of the best and most enjoyed gunshow purchases I ever made.
>>48419125Mine came with one of those $40 Amazon red/green dot combos lol.
>>48418981I just ticked the "white" box.
>>48419014It's possible with a will and a dremmel but the stock flash can adds a bit of stability and you have to unscrew the flash hider to get it in and out. I've got a cheap A2 on mine while my form processes
>>48418884I find that hard to believe
>>48419240I was more worried about the booster and the can getting in the way when the barrel tilts. I've done 0 research into it as my next can is going to be a form 1 micro can for my bernadelli pocket 22.
>>48419247Not that guy but I can ring a 10x12 plate all day long at 100 with mine.
>>48419264I had to work it with a dremmel to allow for the tilt. Might need more work in the future, but if I'm out $200, the so be it.
>>48418826i agree with the longer barrel factor. and you can find a pcc thats just as reliable as a glock so basically a roni is just a toy...
>>48420178this. ricers, beaners, trailer trash tylers, tacticool fags that wear 5.11
>>48419035Just bought one from GrabAGun for just over $200. If you shop around you can find the base kit for around $200 all over the place. Just skip on their bullshit accessory pack, you don't need an $80 flashlight or "tHuMb ReSTs".
>>48419014The US version, the CAA MCK 2.0, natively supports supressors. You just undo 4 screws and pull the stock barrel shroud and a piece of plastic out and it's suppressor ready.
>>48420169How is it a toy if PCCs exist?Glock reliability and prevalence of parts, but while supporting all of the accessories and 3 points of contact of a PDW. If anything breaks, you still have a reliable ass Glock, if a PCC breaks, you have a paperweight.
>>48420192"Muh M1 Garand is muh home defense weapon"OK Gerald.
If they made one for a glock 40 it might unironically be the best 10mm pcc
>>48421382>>48421373>>48419035What do you guys think about this compared to the Recover brace? I ordered a Recover kit and I was getting cold feet about it. compared to something like the MCK, or even just getting a better holster for my gun
>>48421389lol i hit the nail on the head but you were way off mark
>>48421580>califags, ricers, beaners, trailer trash tylers, tacticool fags that wear 5.11pretty broad brush yer swingin desu
>>48421588it seems like I am but I am not. theyre all different skins of the same character
>>48421588>TylersThis sounds like commie shitskin slang to me?
>>48420169I'd argue that if you can throw a 10+ inch barrel into a glock and then a roni kit you would then have a 2 in 1 though which may appeal to some people.
>>48421419CMMG exists, so no
>>48418769There's a reason to prefer an MCK over a Micro Roni and that is because it's slightly less Jewish. Only slightly, though, it's made in the US but the owner is still IDF and a Jew.Also, the MCK has better overall design with a second mag holder, stabilizer that works when folded, better foregrip, can work with a suppressor, etc.
You have the money and self-respect to want something that isn't a gimmicky shell to shove a Glock into.
>>48418954>no MP5, just the most dogshit AR9 imaginable with a bunch of other budget and fuddy shit imaginableI believe you
>>48423918>perfect formfactor>Glock reliabilityExplain how that's a gimmick.I mean, do we need to spend $5k on an HK SP5 your highness? This will get the job done for any reasonable civilian use just as well as the SP5 and the parts/mags/etc. are easier to get because Glock.
>>48418954Never understood buying like 30 guns and not a single genuinely nice oneWhat a piece of shit AR9 though geeze
>>48423967>I'm making my handgun into something that's subgun sized, but without the added benefit of improved ballistics while sacrificing concealment and weight>this isn't a gimmickI know you're too broke for even an EVO, but there has to be a point where you have to step back and realize "I'm cramming my cheap handgun into a plastic shell with a brace and using it as a ghetto PCC, nullifying all the advantages a handgun is supposed to have, when I could have just saved up a bit more and got a Stribog or an EVO and had the best of both of worlds"
>>48423967>This will get the job done for any reasonable civilian use just as well as the SP5shut the fuck up you poverty piece of shit, you have a glawk in a chassis with a rubber notastock. it's a range toy, a novelty. the only goobers i see who think it's practical have some retarded notion of turning it into some pseudo "truck gun", which is a cringe concept in and of itself, where they carry it as a pistol and then when shit pops off they run to their vehicle where the waiting chassis is, slap it in there, and then have a ""pcc""
>>48424001The Stribog or EVO is about the same price as a Glock+MCK and neither is as reliable and replacements/mags are harder to get.You don't get this for iMpROvEd BalLiStiCS, you get it for 3 points of contact so you can more quickly acquire a target and reacquire it after each shot. I bet even a mediocre shooter could outshoot a race pistol with a gun+MCK. I don't know what home defense situations you think you'll encounter where you need to lob bullets over a football field away, I just need something where I can easily get around tight hallway corners and quickly and effectively acquire a target and fire. If I wanted more range, I'd just go for a semi-auto rifle in the first place.
>>48424037>Glock badOk, let me get 2/3 of police and many military outfits on the phone and let them know>rubber notastockGets the job done and at least I don't have to give the gubmint $200 they don't deserve thanks to regulation that makes no sense. There's also a shit ton of other advantages like the front grip area, the top picatinny for optics, the flashlight slot, etc. Shitting on this is like saying a Steyr TMP or MP7 is shit formfactor-wise.>truck gunNope, it's a bedroom home defense weapon. Grab it out of the closet, snap the brace open, show Antifa we don't play that way.
>>48424047>I'm too broke for an actual PCC, have convinced myself they're inferior, and too shit with a pistol to actually make use of its benefits Every goddamned time with you queers I swear.
>>48424077>Nope, it's a bedroom home defense weapon. Grab it out of the closet, snap the brace open, show Antifa we don't play that way.fucking reddit i godamned knew it, they're the only ones who actually think this fisher price shit is for serious use
>>48423967>This will get the job done for any reasonable civilian use just as well as the SP5>>48424077>Shitting on this is like saying a Steyr TMP or MP7 is shitThis is some next level poorfag cope holy shit
>>48423999Pistol shell owners invariably are poor and make bad financial choices. If they were any different, they wouldn't have a Glock in a shell and insist it should be taken seriously. They don't own anything nice, this is a rule. I dare any of them to prove me wrong.
>>48424087Actually:-The CZ is shit without a ton of mods and is Russian trash-The Stribog is known for jamming without expensive high grain ammo and also known for getting casings stuck in the inner workings of the gun when clearing a jammed shell-once again, neither is cheaper than a glock+MCK-I can remove the Glock and use it as a pistol if I want, I can't do that with other PCCsThe cheapest PCC I would consider owning is a Kriss Vector and even those aren't perfect, they've been known to have the plastic frame be damaged in certain misfire scenarios. The MCK is also lighter and I won't accidentally eject the mag when holding it normally.
>>48424168Meant to say neither is *more expensive*, in other words, being "poor" isn't the reason.
>>48424138>You didn't spend $5k on a gimped civilian MP5, you must be poor and stupid.
>>48424168>outdated memes>thinks playing gun transformers is practical>unironically says the cheapest PCC he would consider owning is a Kriss VectorIt writes itself.
>>48424138There are so many reasons why ronis are shit too>stuck with a Glock trigger which will never be a good trigger no matter what you do >tilt barrel means worse accuracy and shit tier muzzle device options >your ""gun"" is airsoft tier plastic>possibly the ugliest thing on the market Really don't understand why anyone would willingly spend money on them
>>48424190>the only PCC options are stupidly expensive H&K importsneck yourself you broke faggot
>>48424168>unironically thinks vectors are goodThanks for letting us know you don't have a clue what you're talking about
>>48424182You're dropping about $600 on a shitty gimmick because you think you're saving money and having your cake and eating it in some misguided quest for a "2-in-1" option. You're poor.
>>48424168>The CZ is shit without a ton of mods and is Russian trashIt's Czech and even bone stock it's better than your piece of shit roni.
>>48424168cz is fine with safety delete and trigger spring swap. 30 bucks in parts and 15min of work. if you had enough educatin to realize czech=/=russia maybe people would take you more seriously.
>>48424194So modding a CZ EVO is fine, but doing it all in one go to a Glock isn't?/k/
>>48424168>Skorpion EVO>TrashActually nevermind that>Worse than this shitty glock PCC abomination in literally any way>RussianSo you're retarded and underage. Nice.
>>48418769I picked one up off a buddy for 145. It’a my current night stand gun.
>>48424196>Airsoft-tier plasticIt's the same (or nearly identical) glass-fill Nylon 6 the fucking Glock itself is made out of.Ever heard of Milwaukee power tools? They use a similar formulation, pic related, they take abuse and I don't think I've ever seen one actually busted unless a truck ran over it, and maybe not even then.
>>48424047>neither is as reliableThis is patently and demonstrably untrue. Get help for your terminal poorfag disease and trailer trash taste in guns.
>>48424244Glocks are handguns my dude You are still trying to shove one in an airsoft tier clamshell and pretending it's Just As Good™ as purpose built firearms
>>48424219WTF is $600?The MCK is only $200 if you shop around, the Glock is currently going for about $600.WTF is wrong with a good option at a good price?You're like those dipshits that drop $600 on motorcycle helmets when they aren't even any safer and really don't offer any advantages. Please let me know where to find people like you if I ever get into sales, though, you'll make me rich.
>>48424269The Glock pistols are basically the most reliable semi-auto weapons ever made, period. There's no way some janky Eastern Europoor shit is going to top that.
>>48424274>Same plastic as the gun itself is "airsoft tier"/k/
>>48424282Nigger you had better not be telling me that you're dropping $800 on something as inherently shit as a Roni setup before you even get any accessories for it, holy shit that is a scam
>>48424291Yeah, OEM they're generally pretty reliable. Putting it in your janky overpriced garbage toy throws that out the window. But feel free to post literally any evidence of a Roni going as many rounds as a Skorpion without a malfunction.
>>48424168Buddy I bet you don't own an optic that's worth more than $300
>>48423931Here's the old for sale pic. I dug it up just for you. Also that AR9 was barely assembled in that picture. You honestly believe I just left a gun with no brace and no sights?>>48423999I only need 2 practical guns. The AR and the G19. The rest are just toys. Also you don't think the TRP, the 1960s Colts, or any of the pre lock smiths are nice guns? Are USPs bad now? Is the Beretta AL391 a bad shotgun now?>>48424265I dont think the roni is glass filled, it feels like ABS to me.>>48424196Go shoot one and you'll find out.>>48424138Post your guns so I can flex on you when my watch is worth more than your collection.
>>48424435Fucking STEN mags? What sort of Anglo-Germanic rape baby is this?
>>48424047>EVO UNRELIABLE OP is high on the copium
>>48424465Greasegun mags actually. The guy that bought it had an MP5 in every caliber and was just missing this .45 to complete his collection.
>>48424435What is this absolute fucking abortion lmao
>>48424435>a paki NFA-barreled shitheap nigger-rigged to shoot .45Once again, roni owners make awful, terrible financial decisions.
>>48424435I just fucking dry-heaved looking at that.
>>48424528>pakiTry again>terrible financial decisionsI almost 4xd my money on this gun.>>48424506The guy I sold it to had a full auto lower and cut it down and threaded it for trilug.
>>48418815>guy who shills glock chassis system gloats over selling an AR9 and MP5 because it beats them both>>48418954>AR9 is as cheap as it gets>>48424435>MP5 is one of the worst affronts /k/ has seen all monthPottery
>>48424576Post your guns poorfriend.
>>48424435>when my watch is worth more than your collection.christ dude, with your guns and this, I can only assume you drive a mid-2010s beemer.
This is my new favorite thread of the day.
>>48424591I wish that nightmare on no man. I daily a honda fit. I have a work truck too and a wrangler flip that just needs tint and is getting sold. Jeeps are great investments, the amount of money boomers pay for these things is unreal. >buy clean jeep for $4500>replace rear main seal, front shocks, carpet, and throw in a double din>list on goybook for 15k
>>48424620lmaoif it wasn't bmw it had to be this
>>48424683Post your lifted depreciating pickup. I'll keep driving tax write offs and cheap jap cars.
>>48424077What in the name of retardation is this. The MP7/TMP use recoil mitigation poorfag. Stop coping.e
>>48424881Roni has 0 recoil.
Welcome frens, if you're just joining us in the best thread of the day, OP is literally raped in every hole. Feel free to paruse the shitposts, I suggest you don't miss the absolute abomination MP5. Enjoy.
>>48424138Go on, post your gimped mp5. We know you want to show off your overpriced PCC.
>>48418769Micro roni is going to be deemed an sbr pretty soon, as will all pistol conversion kits.
>>48424476Well then. In that case I respect that wayward individual and his singular taste.
>>48424196to be fair, you can get roni that is compatible with the 92tilting barrel doesn't affect accuracy though, as the design is for it to tilt AFTER the bullet has left the gun
>Imagine the quartermaster giving you this shit and laffinFOK
>>48425240having some queer with a trashy braced glock abortion call your stuff overpriced doesn't have as much impact as you think it does. we have a term for that here on 4chan, it's called "poor cope"
>>48418769I mean yeah, foe starters if you're not retarded, if you're not a pooe faggot, if you have good taste, know about ergonomics, have more sense than to encapsulate a reliable gun in flimsy cheap plastic clamshell shit. Lets see what the rest of the posters say. This is like that tv show where out of 100 people how many people said its a surefire sign of retardation, ooof im sorry only 33 people said that the highest ranking answer is blah blah blah
>>48424364DESU I can't find any evidence of an MCK malfunctioning, and certainly not any that malfunctions increase. Nice FUD.
Do whatever you want OP, you're going to catch flak for liking things that other people don't like regardless. Differing opinions make people uncomfortable and afraid.
>>48424604Seconding this, it's a fucking ride from beginning to end
>>48424374>if you don't spend enough on your optics your opinion doesn't countThe absolute state of this board.I thought /o/ was bad on the "you didn't spend enough to have an opinion" shit, fuck me, you guys are even worse. All you nerds should've just bought gold bars to throw in a safe with how all you care about is how much was spent rather than actually going out and using the damn thing.
>>48425713Poorfag cope arrives
>>48424435I don't know about the Jew shit Roni, but the MCK (the US one) is definitely glass fill nylon. Not only does the stiffness and overall feel indicate it, but I can see the glass fibers when I get it under a bright light.For all we know, there could be bootleg Chinese knockoffs made out of ABS you have seen in the wild, so don't judge the real deal off of some knockoff shit you found at a gun show.
>>48424555It's Ok, the seething nogun LARPers in this board will never accept the fact they were wrong about Glock chassis.
>>48424591>implying a mid-2010s beemer is a bad carWTF is going on? When did the gun world get full of overpaid software devs that never shoot anything but just leave it in plastic and only take it out for photos to post on the internet?
>>48424881What the fuck do you think a brace does? Do you honestly not know the difference it makes to have 3 points vs 2 on the same handhold?
>>48425736I ordered a Recover frame with the cantilever mount as a skeleton version of the same concept. I am curious to see how it goes.
>>48425713>the ol' "if you have anything more expensive than my shit you don't use it" angleclassic
>>48425759>A brace does the same thing as recoil dampening actionsThis thread needs to be archived, what an absolute gem it's turning out to be
>>48425721Oh, I'm sorry, I have my money in high yield investments instead of buying LARP optics for conditions I'll never use it in.
>>48425726How are you supposed to tell the "real" from the "knockoffs" when even the real ones look like total shit slapped together in a Fischer Price molding machine?
this is the greatest encapsulation of povertyrage I've seen in a while
>>48425764Based on all of the pristine in-the-packaging pics I see on this board, I don't see how my statement is inaccurate. BTW, you act like I haven't met the kinds of people that say shit like this. They own a pre-ban MP5 PDW but live in a shit house and drive an ex-cop Crown Vic and other poorfag shit. Owning one expensive item and living in squalor doesn't make you rich, and if you're scared to actually shoot your precious guns, you're the actual one coping. I could probably move enough out of my Vanguard to buy out everything you own tomorrow in cash, faggot.
>>48425770Compared to a pistol alone? Are you actually this stupid and poor at reading comprehension or just doing it for the memes?There's not even a debate to be had here, a pistol alone vs. a pistol in an MCK the MCK shooter is going to have less felt recoil and quicker target reacquisition, period.
>>48425799Anon you don't need to justify yourself to these people.
It keeps getting better.
>>48425781If it's made out of the right plastic for starters. I've handled so many guns up and down the cost spectrum and out of the polymer weapons the MCK isn't any worse and probably better than some of the actual shit like KelTec.
>>48425811He's talking about things like the fact that the TMP has delayed blowback / MP5 has roller delayed blowback.
>>48425812They're opinions are dumb and they need to be called dumb for it.
>>48425827OK, great, but if you don't give a shit because you're not actually shooting full auto and you just want the extra aiming stability the MCK gets the job done without the "this is the civilian version of the actual cool gun you really wanted, cope" tax.
>>48425811>when poverty is so great it impedes your reading comprehension
>>48425848Nigga have you ever actually used a PCC or is your only comparative experience your fuckawful chassisshit?
>>48425864he unorincally wanted a kriss, so methinks it's the latter
>>48425857There's nothing wrong with my reading comprehension, there is more than one way to reduce the effects of recoil. One is to spend $4000+ for some minor bullshit like delayed blowback, another is to add a fucking brace to absorb the recoil through more parts of the body. BTW, delayed blowback also increases the chance of malfunction, so when reliability is king it's not always the better choice. Glocks are the most reliable semi-auto weapon out there and there is a mountain of real world data to prove it.
>>48421419THIS. >>48422629No. Where most of these PCCs fail is that they use a before the grip magazine like an AR15 would instead of taking a mag inside the grip like a MAC10, Uzi, Glock would. That's extra inches that could be chopped down in overall length while still having the same length barrel.
>>48425889Actually laughing at work now, thank fuck I'm the only one in the office.
>>48425848I understand what you're saying anon. People in the firearms community tend to dogpile on things because they don't form their own opinions based on experience but instead upon consensus / whatever someone said as an authority. Car community is the same way in many respects with things like high end sportscars. They form their opinions based on whatever Jeremy Clarkson said not on having driven the thing and compared it against other high end sports cars.
>>48425889>One is to spend $4000+ for some minor bullshit like delayed blowbackYou don't need to spend that much and it's hardly minor.>BTW, delayed blowback also increases the chance of malfunction, so when reliability is king it's not always the better choiceThis is literally the opposite of the actual case...>Glocks are the most reliable semi-auto weapon out there and there is a mountain of real world data to prove it.No there isn't, because it isn't true.
>>48425938Only sensible person ITT.Everyone else is just FUDing based on knee jerk reactions because it's a scary new concept (funny enough, the same thing happened with the Glock came out originally as everyone had FUD about the polymer frame).Then, the rest are trying to flex their overpriced never shot meme gun while they live in squalor with their only hobby as posting their ornament online.
>>48425953BRUH.https://www.ballisticmag.com/2018/05/23/glock-17-torture-test-ocean/Try and tell me again there is a single firing action more reliable than a fucking Glock 17. The MCK doesn't make it any less reliable, the only instance I can find of a Glock+MCK combo failing was from a dumbass running cheap mags that probably needed lubricant, which will make any gun have feed problems.
>>48426006I think most PCCs are shit and just a shitty idea if they aren't full auto. An MP5, Kriss, P90 all make a lot more sense with the fun switch. Without that switch most of them are neutered in that the design of the gun was based on it being full auto. It's like buying a semi auto belt fed SAW. Unless you plan on modifying one day during a SHTF, it's kinda pointless and other weapons would be better used instead if you aren't modifying it.
>>48426034The undisputed champion of torture-through-service small arms is a NASA-owned MP5 that went 571,000 rounds before being decommissioned...the things that needed replacing most often were the firing pin, firing pin spring, and extractor, each one less than a half dozen times.
>>48426006Yeah, true. Also laughing at the ppl ITT even mentioning 9mm's "recoil" in large-format pistols/non-full auto subguns
>a solitary butthurt poornig replies to his own posts desperately as he tries to console himself over his ratty roni purchase that he blew an entire month's pay on
>>48418954Nothing you have is really nice. Those are all just normie asa guns that could be had cheap at the time. We are back to the eternal poorfaga problem with acceoting that 10 shitty poorfag guns is not better than two or three fully set up good quality manufacturer guns.
>>48426006Let's see your shit bitch, I bet it has less wear than a nun's cunt. Poors always brag that they shoot a shitload yet no one ever believes it because they know the inverse it always the case.
>>48425900>Complaining about 3"Sounds like the same problem your girlfriend (male) has anon
>>48421588If the shoe fits faggot
>>48423902That looks like a piece of shit jumbled fat mess up front. How in the fuck do you even hold this?
>>48423967Except you stupid nigger when we say parts breaking we are falking about your shitty chintzy brace hing breaking or any of the other pieces of the metal clamshit shell, you cant fix that even with jb weld does that have a lifetime warranty? Youd have to replace the whole crappy "frame". Inb4 its tough, fuck you its empty plastic it could shatter if your fat friend or you id hour fat, most likely, fucking sit on it.
>>48426077The point is that it's the most compact formfactor for home defense. Home defense isn't running out to your back porch and shooting at someone a football field away, home defense is walking around tight corners and having to acquire and fire quickly and accurately over short distances. A PCC/SMG/PDW is the optimal way to do that. Even though the MCK is larger than the base pistol, a proper pistol shooting stance has two arms outstretched, a proper SMG stance is pushing the gun toward the body, so the end of the barrel is actually closer to the body and less likely to snag on obstacles when moving in tight quarters. There's a reason SWAT, etc. uses them when they could have any M16 or Glock 18 full auto they want.>>48426086Did that MP5 get left in the FUCKING OCEAN for 6 months?Either way, both guns are clearly long lasting, far past what any normal person would ever want to shoot purely from ammo cost alone. Having 571k rounds is one thing, but that's not anything to do with number of malfunctions for given conditions. Being owned by NASA, it was probably super babied and cleaned at super tight intervals. Apples to apples I bet the Glock would still be more reliable across a range of ammunition quality and environmental conditions.
>>48426176Its kinda like the FS2000. Your front hand goes on the black part with the spare mag
>>48424001>>48423967Double stack double feed mags faggots. Get good. Retards.
>>48426176The "piece of shit jumbled fat mess" is one of the most comfortable foregrips I've ever used. Can you not see the finger reliefs right under the flashlight mount?
>>48426201>t. Guy that knows nothing about the differences in plastics and has never held one to realize how wrong he is.I bet if I gave you one to smack around you'd hurt yourself before you hurt it, that brace isn't going anywhere and I have yet to see any reports of people breaking them, at least not in a way anything would break like getting run over by a dump truck or something.
>>48424077You retarded fuck squirrel shit weasel, we know about glocks blue label program apparently unlike your retarded fuck ass, glocks are cheap they work well enough buuuut you seem to forget they have jammed in every fucking officer involved shooting and are the most prone to limpwristing fucking gun there is. They definitely have their faults. Blah blah anything can be worked around faggot before you stsrt making excuses, the fact that you have to do workarounds and get ahead of remedial actions is indicative of weak points in a design.
>>48424077Hahahahaha fuuuuuck your stupid ass is really really comparing this mck roni abortion to a mp7/tmp? Let me laugh harder hahahaha fucking imbecile youve already been corrected but goddamn you went too far buddy youre reaching youre worse than the keltect cm33 children qnd if this isnyour home defense gun instead of a normie ass ar. You are literally fucking retarded, you have the iq of pond scum. And the chromosomes of two people. Fucking smoothbrain.
I would honestly even take this over a pastaRoni
>>48426206>Did that MP5 get left in the FUCKING OCEAN for 6 months?is that supposed to be impressive? Any properly finished firearm is going to be able to withstand that to a very respectable degree. Barring any organic material like wood entering the equation.> Having 571k rounds is one thing, but that's not anything to do with number of malfunctions for given conditions.We know as much about the number of malfunctions the MP5 had as we do the Glock. Your source doesn't specify. >Being owned by NASA, it was probably super babied and cleaned at super tight intervals.based on?In short, your own study is about as scientific as mine on the NASA MP5. Their real value comes from the round count endurance. Every other aspect is either negligible or not clarified enough to make any conclusions with. It does not, in any way, definitively prove that the Glock is the most reliable firearm on earth.
>>48426319Glock is definitely on the short list of "most reliable firearms on earth" if not at the top, right up there with AKM and MP5.
>>48426260>limpwristingholy fuck me running.first of all, if you have failures due to limpwristing, you need to get a .22 and hand in your man card.second of all, guess what the MCK does: prevents limpwristing by offering 3 point contact where that failure mode would be almost impossible.Congratulations, you just proved why the MCK is a valuable accessory.
>>48424168What a joke of a man you are. I wonder if your friends are ashamed of you mostly or if yohre the ine feeding them horseshit, justarsgood hurr. Youre wrong by the way the magazines make or break a platform and scorpion has some of the best designed magazines in the market. Worldwide nigger. The stribog is eh, they made metal lipped feed mags now so it works its still double stack double feed still has that over glock and they make different lowers to take different mags. And any ar9 would take anything from a larue to a geisselle trigger which your glock will never be even close to with its dirty mushy everything since youre probably too lazy to clean it.
>>48426290I compared it to the FORMFACTOR of the MP7/MP9, retard. Stop acting like a Redditor and running with the dumbest possible interpretation of what was said.
>>48426319How many NASA security guards do you know of that go on assignment in the jungle and wade through rivers? Oh, that's right, none.
>>48426374You mentioned maintenance intervals, not environmental conditions...
Fuck roni, no G17L kit, bitches.
>>48426319Round endurance=/=reliabilityHow the fuck do people not understand the word "reliable".I see this shit all the time with cars, too. A car that lasts 500,000 miles but has trouble starting because the carb gums up every few hundred miles is not reliable. A car that starts and runs with no issues and blows at 100,000 miles is reliable, but has less *longevity*. These words do not mean the same thing.Reliable, when talking about a gun, means "I pull bang switch, gun go boom", not how long it can go boom for, that it goes boom.
i'm mostly convinced the roniposting in the past few weeks is one guy just drumming up some guaranteed (you)s in a pretty good fashion, but on the other hand i have no trouble whatsoever imagining he actually is the angry poorfag reddit transplant he's portraying himself to be. such is life in 2021 /k/.
>>48426383Read between the lines, what I meant was their guns likely stayed spotless and that's a big factor in reliability and longevity. The Glock spent time in a fucking ocean, the worst place for anything metal.
>>48426386You don't need it, the Roni/MCK is just like a better longbarrel Glock aside from the MuZzLe VeLOciTy that doesn't matter for short distance shooting.
>>48426402Either way such faggotry is making me consider handing my Glock in, I don't want to be associated with such smoothbrain 'tism, fake or otherwise.
>>48424168Palmetto makes ar9's that are like $450, foxtrot mikes makes ar9s less than price of a scorpion, palmetto makes the akv 9mm ak takes double feed scorpion mags starts at ~850, kalashnikov usa makes their 9mm ak at about a k, there are ar9 receivers starting at 100 burgerz and places like full ar9 kits for like 250 burgz, abc gun co had their ar9 for 350, freedom ordnance 9 makes ar9s for like 550, theres romanian ak and other 9mm aks like the nak 9 for like 600. All in all you are just retarded small minded ignorant lazy CHEEEEEEEEAP faggot.
>>48424190Hey fuck face cum slut look at this>>48426437
>>48426103We can add>proceeds to claim that the microroni is every bit as good as an SP5k and that the glock is the most reliable firearm on the planetto that too.
>>48424282People like him and me know what we'ee buying and idiots like you just cause pity in us. You are like a cockroach.
>>48426206>hyping up Glawk reliability when the Mk25 exists
>>48426292I'd take a 10mm and run one of those bullpup stocks. Sure it might end up adding up in cost but it would look way better.
>>48424282You are close to breaking 900 dollars after tax shipping for the roni xfer fees etc. You are sick in the head. Like a sick dog. Its like damn, poor thing. In both senses of the word.
>>48424291It is when the purpose built fast firing pcc is blowback and has double stack double feed mags vs the glocks shit trigger and single feed mags
>>48424302>has no proof to back up their claim/K/
>>48426206>The point is that it's the most compact formfactor for home defense. Home defense isn't running out to your back porch and shooting at someone a football field away, home defense is walking around tight corners and having to acquire and fire quickly and accurately over short distances.I get that which is why I said if a person is going to buy and use a PCC then they should be looking for something that uses a mag in the handle like an Uzi to decrease the length overall.
>>48426504Because no other guns have taxes or shipping fees?The fucking MCK is only $200, the rest is a Glock. Unless you're arguing a Glock 17 isn't a good gun or that $600 isn't the reality of market pricing in the current plandemic.
>>48424435Whaaaat in the yeehaw buddy garage built century arma cobbled together piece of shit hell is that? Those arent mp5 mags bro for starters. I know i know its hideous but uglyness doesnt directly fuck with reliability. Shitty magazines do. And mp5 magazines are legendary, whatever the fuck those are they are not and if you ever had a problem with that hunk of shit theres your main culprit.aside from maybe some janky welding/fitment possibly bad rollers, locking piece etc.
>>48426529What proof are you looking for? I have the fucking Glock, I have the fucking MCK, the plastic is the same shit. It feels as solid as any high quality polymer gun I've ever interacted with.
>>48418954Bruh is that M1A airshit?
>>48424435They are nice guns, they were also cheap guna when you bought them. If i had a very expensive gun that was a gift or that i lucked out on in a pawn shop it doesnt mean much. Usps could be had for 350 burgerz not long ago. People never gave a fuck about wheelgats until the walking dead. Nothing you have is as impressive as your stupidity.
>>48424555You offloaded a cheap shitty gun to a collector, you got lucky. That does not make you financially savvy just makes you barely above retarded.
>>48419017Not him but I hold my phone up high over my head and lean forward as much as I can so that it’s directly over whatever I am taking a picture of them crop it later
>>48424586Anyone with 1 good build from arg would kill you financially, pcc general would crush you, even handgun general would pistol whip you silly with 1 piece from their collection. You're uhh pretty outgunned sir, no matter what you think while you look at your shit heap.
>>48424888Zeeo recoil mitigation technology. Faggot. You poor fucks probably cant even afford to throw a gen 5 glock in there at least those have a better recoil spring. Stupid fuck.
>>48426206>>48426532Unpopular opinion:chopping more and more barrel length really only matters down to the like 8"-10" range. Somewhere in there ive found that when actually moving through structures(not a lot of them or anything, im not high speed) the only corners you can't cut decently are the crazy deep ones like center or corner fed rooms at the end of a narrow hallway. Going shorter on the barrel length doesnt help much with corners this deep, as the actual LOP for a firearm becomes the issue. Instead the only way ive found to handle them is either with a handgun in some sort of a compressed ready or short stocking. If you're running into issues clearing a structure with a 10" SBR youre probably better off looking at things like folding stocks, technique, or just using a handgun than trying to go down to a super short barreled pcc and expecting it to solve your problems.
>>48426758Gen 3-5 sell for the same price, retard. I would know, I just bought a Gen 3 because it's the best one and it's what I wanted.
>>48426768Or, and stay with me now, I know where I live, I know how the rooms are separated, I know the tight corners I'd need to negotiate, and the MCK formfactor is exactly what I want.Stop trying to tell me I bought the wrong gun because it would be the wrong gun for you and your situation.I don't try to tell the guy with the hunting bolt action he should've bought an MCK.
>>48426768> Going shorter on the barrel length doesnt help much with corners this deep, as the actual LOP for a firearm becomes the issue.Well that's why I think something like the TP9 with say a folding telescoping brace or stock would be best. But I'd prefer it in 10mm. The problem is no one seemingly makes this. A Glock 10mm with a FLUX brace would fit the bill.https://bt-arms.com/products/tp9-n/
>>48425240He could have a $350.00 extar 9 and would be able to call you stupid for wanting an mck clamshell fagottini clamshell
>>48424620Based Fit driver and MCK shooter.
>>48425759The brace you absolutely retarded child needing of mother theresas charity, does exactly the same thing a buttstock or brace does to tame a pump action shotguns recoil, ie:fuck all. Stupid fucking mong.
>>48425772Admitting you never shoot your guns. Aiming is not important when shooting. Do you have too mucj money tied up in stonks to buy glasses you retarded manchild holding onto dogecoin?
Ronis are for fags
200 post thread because some sped is incapable of getting gud with a glock without a chintsy crutch, jfc
>>48425799See mostly tacomas in the mountains and quads with the 3k plus scratched up rattle canned ar's in arg homeboy. Enjoy your honda mr stockbroker.
>>48426887OK, shoot a pistol grip shotgun with no stock, then shoot one with a stock and tell me how each went. I feel like you're trying to do some autistic skirting of the real discussion but all you're doing is proving you have extra chromosomes.
>>48426860I'm pretty sure Recover is doing / has done this. They have a large caliber Glock chassis kit and it's more stable / better form factor than the Flux.
>>48425811>moving the goalpoasts so far, hes taking them home with him. "I was only pretending to be stupid"
>>48426896Cheap sights work just fine, the expensive ones only matter if you're a marine getting rained on, jumping in the ocean, etc. and need six trillion hours of always-ready battery life. The cheap sights are all you need to shoot up the BLM "protestor" trying to steal your TV and fake votes for Biden.
>>48426595Stock looks super plastic
>>48426902By that logic, why do you own a rifle instead of just getting gud with a pistol?
>>48426959bruh post your goddamned gun already i can't wait to see what kind of poverty abortion you have to copepost this hard over
>>48426955Moving what goalposts? The MCK reduces the impact of recoil, what is there to not understand?
>>48426968Because I could just get gud with a pistol for all my CQB needs you stupid sped.
>>48426829You seem kinda defensive dude, its just a general observation based on personal experience. If the MCK works great for your needs then good for you.>>48426860>A Glock 10mm with a FLUX brace would fit the bill.NGL i honestly want one of those or something similar eventually for that very reason. If im having trouble with my shorty "pistols" then i should probably skip right over the kurz style PCCs and go right to something "machine pistol" patterned that can do both. Also either a really wide RDS or even a laser pointer might actually make sense to allow super rough or no cheek weld firing.
>>48426972 If you're responding to OP I'm pretty sure he already posted his guns above.
>>48425864Bro, you know the answer to this question.>>48425882Kek.>>48424469Underrated, this is how you know theyre newfags. Fucking reddit tourists.>>48425240Hey fuck face mc bitcherson meet one of our resident machine gun owners. His mp5 has more rounds through it than your bitch has dick thrusts through her snatch.>>48425822 so humble you didnt even reply to his post
>>48426595>the povertynig raging over people shitting on his awful gun throws in airshit into his "arsenal" picsit's just too fucking perfect
>>48426993>>48426860Say "thank you senpai"https://www.recovertactical.com/product/recover-tactical-20-21-stabilizer-kit-for-large-frame-glocks/
>>48426989Doesn't matter how gud you are with a pistol, you will always be better with an MCK, and there are plenty of jewtubers out there that experienced the same thing. I didn't get it because I can't shoot a pistol, I got it because I want an SMG formfactor without buying sketchy Eastern Europoor bullshit and also don't want to spend $5k for a cope'd out version of an MP5.
Need help finding the og BoogalooDoge ( his old and/or new acc ), or his work that is similar to the pic attached
>>48426993me: gets absolutely berated for defending the MCKyou: "gee, you sound pretty defensive"Well no fucking shit.
>>48427021> I got it because I want an SMG formfactor without buying sketchy Eastern Europoor bullshit and also don't want to spend $5k for a cope'd out version of an MP5.You thought the EVO and Stribog were "sketchy" and that you had to spend $5k for an MP5? Holy fucking shit you really are a drooling retard.
>>48427021>without buying sketchy Eastern Europoor bullshit>buys sketchy kike bullshit insteadbeautiful
>>48425848Boy you are stupid as shit. Go back to r/mckownerz fucking faggot. You made a big deal out of muh mck zero recoil muh brace dampening blood flow to muh brain but now actual things that help control recoil, that really work that your brace is nowhere near even having anything like ever, now the recoil dampening the shit that causes "zero recoil" doesnt matter and its a bad boujie thing. Youre a fucking democrat liberal arent you? Aoc is that you?
>>48427021I would literally trust myself more with my glock as it was meant to be than in that bullshit chassis, ESPECIALLY if I'm clearing out my house with it.
>>48427037I don't think an MP5 is $5k, I know: https://www.gunbroker.com/Semi-Auto-Pistols/search?Keywords=hk%20sp5&PageSize=24&Sort=13&BuyNowOnly=1and yes, the EVO is a piece of shit, but for some reason gets such rabid fanboy dickriding. I considered the Stribog, but it's a subpar firearm compared to a Glock.
>>48425889Mp5 is literally king of reliability. Literally the king. Due to rdb. Nigga you are dumb as hell.
>>48427037Stribog is kinda suspect desu. Can't say the same for Evo, but one being fine doesn't make the other invalid.
>>48427048CAA MCK is made in the USA, faggot. May have an IDF kike running it, but it's not like the Jews are known for being bad at engineering.
>>48425889Mountain of webms with glocks malfin. Fuckin tard.
>>48427101And all of them are operator error: limp wristing it, shitty poor quality mags, shitty reloaded ammo, etc.
>>48427082None of those are $5k and you can even now get a PTR9KT for $2500, even after all the COVID inflation bullshit.https://www.gunbroker.com/item/886765760>and yes, the EVO is a piece of shit>I considered the Stribog, but it's a subpar firearm compared to a Glock.You are genuinely retarded.
>>48426949>>48427017Yeah I've seen this before. There are a few things that seem good like the add on side rails and the fact that it's cheap enough and can be added to a Glock 10mm. The only thing that strikes me as a bit odd is the folding brace and it's lack of length adjustability.>>48426993>NGL i honestly want one of those or something similar eventually for that very reason. If im having trouble with my shorty "pistols" then i should probably skip right over the kurz style PCCs and go right to something "machine pistol" patterned that can do both. Also either a really wide RDS or even a laser pointer might actually make sense to allow super rough or no cheek weld firing.See that's what I'm thinking. You need like a machine pistol design with a brace in a heavier caliber such as 10mm or (45ACP even if running suppressed )with something like a 4 to 8 inch barrel. Something really compact to move tight but also with that 3rd point of contact. Like it has been said elsewhere in this thread cutting down the OAL of the weapon as much as possible makes sense for CQB. I mean if you plan on shooting inside warehouse lengths then you'd be better off just running whatever 11 inch rifle round AK or AR instead of using pistol rounds.
>>48425900Retard, that would fuck with the ability to out the grip of your choosing on the pcc/ar9. Which ia literally one of the biggeat personal preferences largest markets in building. Forcing the world into the angle comfy for your little bitchmade hands. What if some teutonic hunan with bigass hands designed it youd be bitching about nah man the grip angle sucks and i cant reach this shit without breaking my grip id buy it if it wasnt for that but its not adjustable replaceable etc. Idiot.
>>48427064What is this insistence that the MCK is a Reddit thing?I swear, if anyone disagrees on here they're either a tranny or a Redditor or both.I'm not saying the Glock+MCK is the best gun ever for all applications, I'm just saying it's a good home defense option if you want a small formfactor with more stability than a bare pistol but less barrel length than an AR and don't want to pay the extreme COVID taxes on most PCCs due to BLM riots.
>>48427123After seeing Hop's PTR beat itself to death on his YouTube because they put the wrong parts in his shorty 308 I would not buy anything from them
>>48425938Retard. Im glad gatekeeping works. Its supposed to keep out retards like every mck owner ever. >>48426006You stupid fucking mongoloid inbred halfwit. There are videos on youtube from 2013 reviewing gen 2, gen fucking 2 roni/mck glock clamshell chassis. Fucking 2013. You imbecile. Maybe youre the one who cant understand new things.
>>48427165>A fucktarded cut down .308 beating itself up = 9mm MP5 clone beating itself upHow were you not smothered as an infant out of mercy by your mother?
>>48427186Anon, PTR put the wrong parts in his gun. I'm not telling you I think a shorty 308 is synonymous to a 9mm, I'm telling you I don't trust PTR
>>48427201And you trust Glock after they failed to comprehend chamber support. Fuck me you are stupid.
>>48427082you will do as many mental gymnastics as you can to justify your poor buying decisions won't you....
>>48427211Glock is the most popular handgun in the world by a wide margin. I've never had a malfunction with Glock, yes I trust them
>>48427082>he EVO is a piece of shitwdymbt? evos are reliable, accurate, reasonably priced, and have lots of aftermarket. The trigger and right side safety are lame out of the box but easily fixed. Dont really see how it qualifies as a shit gun unless you have some sort of czoi syndrome issue.>>48427151hating on glock chassis is a time honored tradition on this board, so probably some reference to you likely not being from around here if you find it surprising to see people hating on them.
>>48426087Only an idiot with no experience, no knowledge, and no curiosity to learn doesnt know that 9mm blowback ar's recoil more than a well tuned 5.56 ar firing milspec ammo. Sorry about your overgassed at but thats what happens when you buy trash.
>>48426150This. Always talking about "id rather save the money from that optic/upper/rail/trigger/bcg/md, and use it for ammo and training." Yet they never have ammo or training or nice things. Like the stockflexing my money is too tied up to buy a 300 optic guy driving a honda, trying to flex an mp5 yet its uglier than shit made in pakistani caves.
>>48426224Is that why so many manufacturers copy it? That chassis design that has been around since maybe 2011 is what set the fist grip trend in motion? is that why glock removed its fingergrooves from all its guns now? Idiot.
>>48427178The MCK 2.0 came out at the end of 2019/early 2020, it's not the same as a Roni you colossal inbred jackass.
>>48426245Implying its grunt proof. Anyways seems i wouldnt even need to break it. One of the first results for known issues is the stock charging handle not grabbing/working/racking lmfao get rekt boi
>>48426480Its nobodies problem but your own that you're late to the party.
>>48426535A glock is a good handgun. The problem is you want to force it into a pcc role where now its competing with the cz scorpion akv mp5 ar9 etc. Glock is good handgun. Glock is not good pcc.
>>48426292>>48426492Youd be in it for less money than a glock and a mck/roni cost lol.
>>48426577>source, dude trust me
>>48427404I agree with you, this is why I am going with the TMP / USW style conversion kit. Not OP btw. There's the "full chassis" which ends up about 5 pounds (more with accoutrements), and there's the small frame chassis like a Flux (too small, too ineffective, brace too flimsy and unreliable) the Recover, and the USW. The USW looks great but it's stocked instead of braced and it's twice the price of a Recover kit which does essentially the same thing. You have to form 1 a USW pistol which is a downside. The net effective cost / hassle is way larger on a USW than a Recover for essentially the same outcome. $600 plus wait time for the USW and $100 for a Recover (minus any bells + whistles you happen to add, cantilever for $30 is basically a necessity)
>>48426829Youre a fucking idiot and youre not the first idiot to think he struck gold or had a genius idea. This piece of shit has been on the market aince like 2011, here is the video reviewing Gen 2 from fucking 2013 you imbecile. Jei3mUxmSLs just throw that link behind utube and tafucking da. Its sfulid and your atupid and theres better things smaller some even cheaper more ergonomic for sure for your special situation so you can go solid snake in your two story apartment.
>>48426947I see what your simpleton brain is doing now get ready for that hamster wheel brain of yours to spin, your shoulder is not recoil dampening technology. Yes recoil goes into your shoulder that happens with every stock or brace, it is transferred right into your shoulder, no dampening, straight shock do you understand that that is not in any way shape or form comparable to roller delayed gangbang on your mom.
>>48426982It does not reduce anything, it transmits recoil directly. An mp5's action dampens the recoil, that dampened recoil is transmitted then via the buttstock, that is why the mp5 is amazing and your roni glock is so not even in the same league. Do you understand now?
For anyone ITT asking about 10mm, apparently USW makes a kit for the Glock 20 also.
>>48426292bullpup kit that sucker and you have one short ass 10mm pcc for less than the glock alone
>>48427222>glock is ome of the cheapest guns in the world their blue label program guarantees exposure
>>48427357Its so not different at all that when your charging handle breaks the company will send you a fucking roni one faggot because fuck you in the time this thread has been up ive done more research on that piece of shit than you ever did before you bought it and ever will. Stupid fucking bitch.
>>48427597Feel free to form a coherent argument anytime. Everybody in the world uses Glocks
>>48427616Did you run out of HRT or something? There's no need for you to be this angry
Wew this is a lot of (You)s>>48425726Yeah I just fingerfucked mine its definitely not ABS.>>48426110I'm sorry my collection is guns I enjoy rather than limiting myself to just fighting guns upsets you. Next you'll tell me the Geissele and the surefire on my AR aren't good enough accessories and I should have bought a PEQ. Feel free to post your "nice" guns.>>48426563It actually ran perfectly fine. I ran a couple mags through it to make sure it functioned before I sold it. I'm not sure why you think it had a problem.>>48426620"They are nice guns" thanks.>>48426663Pic related. I've been fleecing boomers and collectors for a long time. But we can compare returns on our investment accounts if you want to talk about financial savvy.>>48426711There isn't a build on ARG that costs more than my timepiece, I'm not sure why you think ARs are so expensive.>>48426758Post your collection poorfriend.>>48426872t-thanks.>>48427323Shalom.
>>48427619Keep acting stupid, it's okay if you don't understand. sometimes the things people "say to you" arent for you, theyre for the people around you so they can all laugh at you. >>48427625Basedboy redditor scared at real niggas high test level "anger", news at 11. This is not a hug box. You will not enjoy this. You haven't even been raged at properly by anyone though. Thats cuz youre not worth it though. No mck/roni nigga iz.
>>48427697Implying this picture means anything. You could be selling baggies of 22lr.
>>48427724You're gonna have a stroke kid. Settle down. There's no need to piss yourself screaming incoherently at anonymous strangers on the internet.
AHAHAH what is this coping shitshow of a thread. Seek mental help, all of you.
>>48427697>letting alphabet harvest his emails so he can get noknocked when the ATF retroactively decides the PastaRoni is an NFA item and supeanas your google account and they also see you sent an illegally spicy memeNGMI
>>48427738>implying I'd sell God's round. >>48427762I have stamps they know who I am already.
>>48426492>>48427575Holy fuck these things are way more neato than the niggeroni
>>48427697>he spends tens of thousands on fucking watchesDidn't think you could advertise your stupidity more than you already have but damn dude you continue to impress
>>48427852now look at it with the retarded extended single stack mag lmao
>>48427871Some of us have disposable income. You're right I should have spent that money lifting my 2500 dodge and putting a confederate flag on the back. Just so you know my watch is worth about 20% more than what I paid for it. But I'm sure your timex is justasgood.
>>48427910I was given a Raymond Weil by someone as a gift. Am not a watchfag. Are they any good?
>>48427936It's not really something I'd be interested in as they don't use in house movements, but it's better than something like a fossil. You're definitely not going to impress watch guys with it, but if you like it do you. It's not like anyone is ever going to notice what kind of watch you're wearing, that's a watchfag delusion.
>>48426595It is 100% airsoft, we're either being played by a ruseman or he's actually one of the biggest retards to hit this board in a while
>>48427910>implying I even wear a watch Nobody gives a fuck what's on your wrist other than other delusional idiots who think watches are worth thousandsThere are far better investments and trying to sound superior about spending money on a watch while coping desperately about your airshit Glock chassis is hilarious
>>48427973Ok. Well thanks for letting me know. I had no context for it. Was gifted.
>>48428051>far better investmentsNo shit. There are very few watches that are investment grade. Enjoy your cope about things you can't afford though. >>48428058It's a nice gift anon, enjoy it.
>>48419265I can do that with a two handed grip on a Glock17. I don't hate these add on kits, but unless you're gonna stick a giggle switch on the back of your glock BEFORE you put it one of these rigs, seems like a tacticool expense and not much more.
>>48428102They're toys anon, like all PCCs.
>>48427852If it weren't for the shitty single stack mags, this be THE PCC to get in the US.
OP here. This thread really took off. I usually just stay on /fit/, /n/, and /ck/. I am big into fitness and Ironman shit. Maybe i should post here more. I kind of gave up posting on gun boards after Obama era retards hit the internet.
Posting my usual contribution to these threads: the vid where a guy shoots one of these Glock chassis and talks pros and cons of it alongside his MP5.
>>48431470Forgot the link, I'm an idiot https://youtu.be/g3Xvtx2j3cQ
>>48428102>tacticool expenseWhile I still disagree and think that it has actual utility, I'm perfectly fine with it just being a range toy.
>>48424555Bro im not any of these guys, but have watched your exchange. First youre a nogunz then you post guns, then youre lying about a gun so you post that gun, then that gun that you DID have is not the one they like, oh and dont forget your guns are all cheap because 'no one liked revolvers till walking dead.'Nice guns bro, ignore these babies.
>>48427742Yah, bet the killhats get strokes all the time from screaming in retarded faggots faces all day long.
>>48427897Its about the same size as a glock stendo but at least it doesnt look as gay as the ronimck
>>48428030Bruh the rifle right next to it i swear its one of those pellet rifles that break in half for pumps
>>48428177Mp5 was used to end sieges, not a toy.
>>48432454Go suck his dick already, oh wait you cant. You're samefagging. Pathetic loser. If you dont understand why he got ridiculed for that hideous "mp5 ish" abortion he posted then youre too stupid to graso anything youre new and youre probably a tourist from reddit. Hello and fuck you. This is not reddit.
>>48432944An ungimped HK Mp5 is an SMG, not a PCC
>>48426595>>48428030I've seen a .22 like that in a shop once.
>>48419247Have you ever shot a pistol at 100 yards? You can absolutely ring steel, it is just way easier to use something like the roni, especially for smaller plates
>>48433159>>48419247See this vid, guy rings a plate way out there with an older version of the chassis. >>48431487
>>48431487That's a pretty eye opening video.
>>48433830Right?! The direct comparison between roni and the MP5K and the 100 yard “does it hold zero after taking the gun in and out of it a bunch of times” test sold me on the whole idea of these chassis.
>>48433830>>48435511give it a rest dude, this has gotten beyond sad
>>48435511Did you or did you not throw in a pellet gun and an airshit M14 into your ""arsenal"" pic?>>48418954
>>48435529Not my pic, but I did add it to >>48431470
>>48418769What model is this one specifically?
>>48433830>having the ability shoulder a pistol makes marked improvements in handling over distance>"eye-opening"Where did you stupid assholes even come from? I've shot MP5s, I've shot a non-Roni pistol chassis, about the only similarities there are is that they shoot the same round. Recoil impulse is different, handling is different, capability of accessorizing (especially in regards to suppressors) in different, ergonomics are different, EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT. It's absolutely asinine to directly compare an MP5 to this except to show how different they are, retarded even. If literally the only thing you care about is if you have a gun that shoots pistol rounds and can be shouldered or not then go wild, because that's where the similarities end. Once you go any deeper than that, the MP5 wins, no contest. This is a gimmick for gullible, cheap suckers to buy into. I could totally understand this gay little club of Ronitards that's festered in the past couple of weeks if they knew what they had, but they are dedicated to directly comparing them to far, far superior options and insisting they are worthy of it. It's insufferable poorfag copium in one of its worst forms.
>>48435616this, it's like some dumbshit comparing his Prius to a Bugatti because both are cars and take you places on two sets of wheels
>>48435616>Once you go any deeper than that, the MP5 wins, no contestYeah, I never said that I just said it was eye-opening because it was a different perspective than other videos I've seen about the MCK. I haven't seen someone compare it side by side to other PCC / SMG form factor weapons. Obviously the MP5 is better than an MCK.
>>48435608Roni Gen 3MCK 2.0 is better, though. Slightly less Jew.
>>48421382because pccs can have longer barrels than a stock glock
>>48418769Ruger PC carbine is the most modular PCC on the market. Get the charger chassis and you can quick swap between 5.5 & 16 in barrels in like 6 seconds. barrels come threaded. And it is dummy simple, pretty much an upscaled 10/22
EP9, $450. 9mm PCC, includes brace. Not a shitty plastic pasta noodle
>>48423902I just want one with a manual safety