>software gets hacked by the chinksohnonononohttps://www.theregister.com/2020/11/12/china_compromised_f35_software_claim/
>>47349403>Biden administration thoroughly compromised by Chinks>Military hardware stolen and compromised by ChinksIs it over for American imperialism?
>>47349403Wow, what bad news, I wonder who benefits? Couldn't be the defense contractors that will need even more money to "fix" this issue, no way at all.
>>47349417He isn't president yet retard
>a policy wonk has claimed to UK Parliamentthe fuck is a policy wonk?
>>47349403>chinks fuck with sub-contractors systems>LM spots this and unfucks it>Life goes on a usualAlthough it really goes to show how afraid the bugs are of the f35
>>47349712Got to get into practice for once the Manchurian Candidate takes office.
>>47349715a guy who blogs about other people's decisions
>>47349403Fucking POS subcontractors, always looking for cheap IT systems probably went to something similar to H1B shit like the US does.
>>47349782but that movie was bad
>>47349715Low level functionaries who research, draft, review, and update policy positions. They get general guidance as far as the goal or position of the policy, then they get to do the drudgery of coming up with policy that fits into the existing policy framework and doesn’t break any laws. When Obama wanted to EO an AWB, it was policy wonks and lawyers who looked for ways to make it happen.
>>47349782Biden is such a gook sellout that he'll probably even go tell Xi personally that he trusts him more than his own secret services.
>>47352785Trudeau in CanadaBiden in USAso North America basically becomes China
>>47349417>Being this openly full retardZero evidence of anything you said, meanwhile we've had 4 years of a Putin toady in office that you refuse to believe.>after China compromised a software vendor in Lockheed Martin’s supply chainSo, a minor system that probably isn't even critical, nice job blowing up a non-issue.
>>47352785Reminder that Trump did real damage to American agriculture with his retarded trade war.
>>47354885I'm so fucking tired of you fanatics
>>47354967Nice of you to admit you've got no fucking clue what you're talking about.
>>47349715a useless LibArt retard forced to seek employment in the public sector.
>>47354934>Trump did real damage to American Agriculture with his retarded trade war>China stopped buying pork from the US>China buys pork from South America>People who use to buy pork from South America buys it from America>ORANGE MAN BAD
>>47355528>People who use to buy pork from South America buys it from Americafirst of it, it was mostly onionssecond, you're dumb as fuck. Look at the trade data and the massive damage done to US farmers.
>>47355638Twats like him won't believe anything negative about Il Duce L'arancia, no matter how hard it stares them in the face. Mueller, a republican, got a ton of convictions on the Russia investigation, and only didn't go after Trump himself because of DoJ policy on sitting presidents. The only thing the GOP had during the House impeachment efforts were a bunch of circus acts to try to disturb the proceedings. And he only evaded conviction on that because McConnell refused to actually let any real proper procedure be done so they could rush the vote they'd planned before hearing any evidence or testimony.
>>47349403you mean, easy access via Israel and Singapore.
>>47349403>China bad give us more money>ooopsie the weapons you bought are made in China but China bad so ... give us more money again>here is your 6 gorillian dollar made in india trainwreck
>>47356311Mueller cleared Trump himself, and got 0 convictions on anyone related to the Trump administration. There were 13 angry politically tied democrats in that investigation, if ANYTHING was found after years of searching why wasnt it at least leaked to the press lol? Or used in Trumps "impeachment".You realize the hearings are public and people can check what a lying turd you are right?
>>47352817>Trudeau in Canada>Biden in USA>so North America basically becomes ChinaYeah basically.
>>47356437What was the US trade deficit in July of 2017 when the Obama budget expired?People arent polcies.
>>47356437>Chooses 2020 when a pandemic hits>ORANGE MAN BAD.
>>47355638>S O Y>Overall exports up>Trade in Onions with China falls>China buys from other countries>countries who use to buy from them buy from the US>2018 exports drop as market adjusts for different countries buying from different people>2019 exports increase returning to normal levels>... ORANGE MAN BAD
>>47356373>Mueller cleared Trump himselfNo, he did not. He said that he did not go directly after Trump because of DOJ policy.>and got 0 convictions on anyone related to the Trump administration.Yeah, just a ton of people who'd been key in his campaign or had previously worked in his admin.>There were 13 angry politically tied democrats in that investigationThis is just bullshit.>if ANYTHING was found after years of searching why wasnt it at least leaked to the press lol? Or used in Trumps "impeachment".https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/You're a moron.>You realize the hearings are public and people can check what a lying turd you are right?You realize that you're literally just covering your ears and going LA-LA-LA-LA! to the evidence, right?
>>47356602Reminder that all of the wiretaps Trump claimed were on his campaign were actually on Russian agent phones, and the campaign was recorded calling them constantly.
>>47354934And yet, we somehow have brand new trade deals with our closest trading partners who *aren't* ruled with an iron fist by Winnie the Pooh. Deals that are more favorable for the US than the ones that they replaced. Shocker, that.
>>47356311>Mueller, a republican, got a ton of convictions on the Russia investigationName some, please.
>>47354934yet somehow we still have a massive surplus and no one is going broke, corporate farmers huh.
>>47356898India, Mexico, Canada, Japan.You have a fundamentally false world view, abandon foreign policy baps
>>47356903Cohen, Manafort, Papadopoulos, Stone, Flynn...https://www.axios.com/trump-associates-convicted-mueller-investigations-206295a1-5abc-4573-be25-4da19d9adcc9.html
>>47356311>Mueller, a republicanlmao how uneducated are you
>>47356949As if any of those actually made up for the loss of business from China for farmers.https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/10/27/trump-trade-wars-farmers/
>>47356966>hurr durr yurr uneducated cuz yu sed duh facts
>>47356969So your argument is kowtowing to china is consistently the best choice, drawing a line is bad for business. What a cuckold you are failing to draw a line in the sand at the sovereignty and dominance of your nation and stand by it is the sign of a man of zero character which I assume you are.
>>47356980Sounds like a stuck a nerve, there is no need to be so flustered especially when you claimed that of many where arrested by Mueller but named those convicted of crimes adjacent all of which under dubious legal circummst5ances to any but the most partisan of far leftist to manufacture post facto legitimacy for democrats to continue their ill educated crusade against America.
>>47356990>Normal trade>KowtowingNow you're just being stupid.>>47357002No, you're just a willfully ignorant moron. How's the propaganda on OAN these days?
>>47354885Imagine being a glownigger this devastated about 2016 in current year...
>>47357032>Normal tradeYet again how uneducated of you such "normal trade" is frankly abnormal you clearly don't know about the United states creation of an exception for human rights abusers on preferred trade status with China in the 2000s go back to school retard lmao try not to listen to braindead constructionalist next time.
>>47357045>Hurr the truth must be hidden at all costs!>>47357055Yeah right, you know that's not why Trump did it. He did it because he wants to look tough.
>>47357088Oh and now you have devolved into base conjecture based on your personal feelings completely ignorant of history or fact, what a braindead retard you are. Never pretend you understand foreign policy again moron you are the type of braindead nigger who gave us embarrassment that has always been democrat foreign policy. trash bapsplingo type dye.
>>47357126>Oh and now you have devolved into base conjecture based on your personal feelings completely ignorant of history or fact,Says the troll ignoring documented history because it says Trump is a fucking dumbass who only does things because he thinks they make him look good.
>>47357185>ignoring documented historyYou have ignored my examples consistently and given nothing in response, I'm done here clearly you are far too below my level. You're 100 years too early to challenge someone at my level lmao, just stick with you little IR circle I'm sure they'll finger your butthole on command at your parroted uneducated opinions like you want.gg ez.
>>47357219I've given several examples with links, you've just ignored them.
>>47356789>ACS>progressive think tank>one of the leaders was Eric HolderWhy the fuck are you on /k/?A country with the economy smaller than Canada halfway around the world definitely had less influence in our elections than Canada, especially since they literally control our elections (for China) through Dominion voting software. There is no evidence or proof that Russia had anything to do with elections.The only thing that was dug up is buying $100,000 in pro-hillary and pro-BLM facebook ads.>>47356952Flynn had problems because they sent two FBI agents and asked him circuitous questions until they interpreted one as a lie, and then arrested him for perjury. He is now aquitted because the judge ruled it entrapment.If I look into the others how much do you want to bet its all horseshit.
>>47357225You've given one which was eviscerated because you lied about it's contents to match your narrative, you gave up after that. The other which is impossible to know if it was you was easily disproven because you used nothing of it's content in your argument and abused it as a source while being willfully ignorant of history and its implications .
>>47357234>Being this willfully ignorant and making shit up to try to defend a guy who'd sell him up the river for a stick of gum
>>47357246>You've given one which was evisceratedNo, it wasn't, and you're full of shit on the rest of your claims.
>>47357249Not that guy but please learn how to green text properlybaps you illegal alien glow nigger.
>>47357263It was.inb4 >n-no youI expect nothing less from someone who clearly doesn't have even a bachelors like yourself.
>>47357264Eat shit, /pol/tard newfag.
>>47357284Why are you so mad dude wtf?
>>47357249>defend a guy who'd sell him up the river for a stick of gumBiden? Sanders? Who are you talking about?Definitely not Trump, he doesnt need to sell shit, hes already rich.
Cleanse with fire
>>47357306Trump has proven time and again he has zero loyalty to anyone who doesn't have an immediate benefit to himself, and you know it.
>>47357325Any statement without evidence is easily discarded. Therefore you are wrong as I reject your vague statement. You fail the class.
>>47357325>and you know itPretend I dont, and dont have cable TV or use social media.
>>47357397>dont have cable TV or use social medialike 60% of the country?
>>47357340>>47357397>4 years of Trump constantly doing it isn't proofPic related
>>47357514So it sounds like you have no basis in fact only feeling. I pity your stupidity.
>>47357628Pretty hilarious that you're trying to argue this position when your entire reality is ignoring the facts.
>>47357628WWE fans go home
>>47357819>>47357891>n-no youthat all you got baps?
>>47356832>Russian agents>Russia the country that cant replicate Soviet era Tech>Russia that constantly runs out of money for military programs>Russia the Country that trades military planes for Palm oil because no one will trade certain products with them directly>Russia the country whose spys get captured trying to find information that is free to them on wikipedia>Russia the country that sends troops to attack us positions and get 200 of their men killedMuh russia
>>47358293>Vatnik intentionally downplaying proven political efforts
>>47356311lmao what a lying faggot
>>47358433>He thinks "anonymous sources" are proven facts.
>>47358598>durr duh officially appointed Special Investigator's massive official report isn't a source hurr>>47358542Yeah, Trump is.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/13/donald-trump-20000-false-or-misleading-claims
>>47356949>mexico>canadaSo name an actual difference between the new nafta and nafta besides the 15 dollar min wage thing which benefits mexico the most.
>>47357055Lol human rights...Nigga have you ever been to the KSA?
>>47358293Yes, that shitty country actually manages to influence western elections, public opinion and so on. Now if we can't even effectively get them to fuck off, what chance do we have against China when they really start playing the same game?
>>47359242>Yes, that shitty country actually manages to influence western elections, public opinion and so on.you mean... the US?
>>47357088HILLARY LOSTBiden probably lost too.Deal with it faggot.
>>47357325>Trump has proven time and again he has zero loyalty to anyone who doesn't have an immediate benefit to himself, and you know it.Imagine writing out this whole entire sentence and never pausing to think that it applies to literally everyone on the planet.I for one am glad that Trump isn't a benevolent martian.
>>47358869>>47359242If Russia manages to influence US elections, than UK and Canada and France influence the elections 1000x more, and China influences the elections 100,000x more than Russia ever did.In fact you CANT EVEN START AN INVESTIGATION INTO ISRAEL OR CHINA MEDDLING that's how much control they have.What a dumb fucking position to take.
>>47358433>>47358869So Russia managed to win the election for Trump in 2016 only using ~116,000 dollars to run pro Hillary, Trump, Bernie ads on Facebook? And those ads for each of said person was more powerful than hillary's 1.4 billion dollar campaign?
>>47354885>we've had 4 years of a Putin toadyThere are still 'people' who believe this.And they get paid $7/hr by CIA through an NGO shell to shitpost on 4chan.
>>47354897found the CCP agent
>>47356437Disinformation is when a source supplies partially true information to persuade the audience that a lie is the truth
>>47354885Getting nervous, Agent Smith? Chinese dominance is coming, it will be swift.
>>47360461>Biden probably lost too.Biden's got a clear victory, even Fox admitted it you delusional faggot.>>47361050Imagine being this much of a blindly fanatical idiot.>>47361498>>47361574And there's the morons.>>47361886That's cute.
>>47361574And here we see how Trumpsuckers can try to make up any lie they want to deny reality.This is the same mindset that lets that Q troll make you /pol/tards believe any nonsense he tells you.
>>47356890>implying the "new" NAFTA is materially different than beforeDude you are full on drunk on the Trump kool aid.
>>47356373>Mueller cleared Trump himselfNo he didnt you fucking moron. He unequivocally stated that he wasnt sure of both meeting the evidentiary standard and the legal framework.
>>47357234>herp only conservatives are interested in weapons>derp a conservative could never use a progressive sourceYou are the personification of the tribal cancer of American politics.
>>47362543And he literally recommended that the only way to currently go after Trump was to Impeach.Too bad the center-right establishment Dems went way too narrow and only laid charges on the Ukraine Quid Pro Quo.
>>47362154>everyone else is a moronlol>>47362165>TrumpsuckersThis sounds like an insult that was invented by a committee.
>>47349417i think you mean the biden coup through election fraud
>>47363381>A handful of morons who live in an echo chamber is "everyone">>47363451Yet you're not disputing the House/Senate results from the same ballots.
>>47350116Only the remake was bad, the original was very good for it's time.
>>47363498You know, that massive amount of fraud and shit they committed that Rudy's got a ton of evidence for, they just can't show it to you right now. Or to the courts. But it totally happened so just go ahead and have Trump win the election and they'll have that evidence for you in two weeks. Well, not for you specifically, or the courts, but they'll say they have it with real conviction and someone from OANN will tell you that it's all really solid.
You guys know he's a troll right?
>>47361861>partially true informationits 100% true tho
>>47363647holy shit now THAT is delusional
>>47349403>>47349417“What they were able to do we do not know, the vulnerability was closed and the software was largely re-written to ensure it did not contain unwanted surprises.”
>>47349403Only this week GCHQ revealed it had hacked Russian state-backed miscreants who were spreading fake news about coronavirus vaccines, the second time that the British state has gone on the record about actively hacking someone elsehttps://www.theregister.com/2020/11/11/ciaran_martin_speech_cyber_policy/
>>47363737Yeah, the entire Trump campaign's response to losing has been massively delusional.
>>47362154>FoxLeftie media, don't care
>>47362154>even Fox admitted it you delusional faggot.oh so now fox news is a reputable source? Trump won, Biden lost, the CIA stole the election and would have gotten away with it if stupid poll workers ie niggers didn't try to fake millions of mail in ballots while China is keking to high heaven over the CIA doing it's biding for them
>>47362154>even Fox admitted itSo cable TV news are the legally binding arbiters of US elections?Listen, stop dilating. Let's admit that the festering wound remaining where your genitals used to be is in fact a wound, let it close up and heal, and accept that you will never be a biological woman.
>>47365618Wow so this what Russians and Chinese will fight.
>>47365574Is that why Trump's lawyers can't win a single court case?
>>47365526>Fox>LeftieHow deeply retarded are you? Do you legitimately have an extra chromosome to believe this?>>47365574>>47365618>Being this heavily propagandized that they actually believe the garbage they're saying
>>47363538Dude we're the vast majority of the country, like 70%+
>>47366910No, you're really not.
>>47366986>biden cant get a dozen people at his 'rallies'>most of the people there are his staffers and theyre forced to clap>somehow he has the highest vote percentage of any president in history, including chocolate jesus himselfIf you think this is real, you are brain dead.The numbers right before the weird overnight "count" showed Trump winning at over 65% of the popular vote.
>>47367011>Trump tells people not to vote by mail>40% of the voters vote by mail because there's a pandemic>WTF WHY ARE ALL THESE STATES FLIPPING BLUEstill waiting for Trump's legal team to show up in court with a single scrap of evidence
>>47367011>Rallies in the middle of a pandemicFull retard superspreader events, you mean.There was no "weird overnight count." It was legitimate votes getting counted because your party's politicians prevented mail-in votes from being counted until election day.
>>47365618>So cable TV news are the legally binding arbiters of US elections?Come on now, we all know the news don't decide these things, but they do report what's been decided. This wasn't clever the first time someone said it and it certainly doesn't get any better after kids like you have been parroting it for the last few weeks. As for Fox, when even Baghdad Bob tells us Iraq's fucked you know an epic shitstomping has been delivered.
>>47367011Also, a reminder that states have 35 days after election day to tabulate the count, and have never been required to announce the winner that night.
>>47367045>Trump tells people not to vote by mailNot true, Trump told people to vote by mail, and most of the mail ballots requested were for Republicans.>>47367073Biden had rallies before and after the election, and supported the BLM riots which had a shitload of people coofing on each other.>>47367088>3 AM>"hey poll watchers we are closing for the night you can go home, we wont count any more votes">4 AM
>>47367223https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-joe-biden-election-2020-donald-trump-elections-3e8170c3348ce3719d4bc7182146b582do you always lie this blatantlyAlso, when is Trump going to show any of this obvious evidence to the courts. He's filed dozens of lawsuits and most of them are being dismissed because his lawyers don't have any evidence.
>>47363647hundreds of sworn affidavits have been submitted, there is plenty of evidence
>>47367242>AP newsDo you even follow a source that didn't blatantly hate Trump and attack him for 2Scoops for four years in a row lol.
>>47367257>>47367268>Being this willfully stupid
>>47367223>Not true, Trump told people to vote by mailOh, I thought the ranting and screaming about mail in votes being a vehicle for fraud was him arguing against it, but now that you mention it I guess the opposite would be rather on brand.https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1249132374547464193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfwhttps://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1263094958417985538https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265255835124539392https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265601615261827072https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1275062328971497472https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288818160389558273Etc etc etc etc...
>>47367268>AP is biased>FOX News is biasedit sounds almost as if you instantly discount any information that doesn't fit into your narrativeAlso when is he bringing all of this evidence to court?There is evidence, right?
>>47367223>Going full retard like this
>>47349715It’s like a boffin
>>47367286>"This Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated," Brann wrote in the 37-page decision. >"One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief," he wrote.>"That has not happened. Instead, this court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled ... and unsupported by evidence," Brann wrote. "In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more."
>>47367286Sounds like I instantly discount any source that is left of center. And yes, Fox news is clearly left of center.>Also when is he bringing all of this evidence to court?Already brought, and they won multiple victories. But you wouldn't hear about this on CNN...>>47367281>>47367291Requested mail-in votes favored Republican side by a 6:4 ratio.
>>47367366>Requested mail-in votes favored Republican side by a 6:4 ratio.No, they didn't, not this year.
>>47367366Where are these victories?His suits in Florida and Michigan were dismissed within hours, he got laughed out of court in Pennsylvania, a Montana judge shit all over him for hearsay evidence.Also>But you wouldn't hear about this on CNN...Classic lying faggot move. You don't have any facts so you just imply shit so you don't have to back up your arguments. Every """person"""" that uses ellipses at the end of a sentence is a liar and a homosexual.
>>47367366>Sounds like I instantly discount any source that is left of center. And yes, Fox news is clearly left of center.No, you're dismissing anything to the left of Stormfront. Fox has been the GOP's unofficial propaganda network for decades.
>>47367387Yes they did, we know this because each state kept track of who requested the absentee ballots.>>47367393>His suits in Florida and Michigan were dismissed within hoursThose weren't his suits.To my knowledge there are only 5 suits related to Trump, and 3 that were actually started by his Admin and Gulianni.Of those he dropped one suit because he got what he wanted, the state agreed to dismiss some votes and check others.>>47367401Rupert Murdoch is far left, he was member of the Labor party of Australia, a communist outfit.The fiction that there is ANY conservative media is drilled into the heads of leftists so they think anyone right of Fox (2/3rds of Americans) must be a nazi.
>>47367649>Lying this hard because you know you lost the electionNice tantrum.
>>47367663You really think I'm lying?
>>47367678Because you are, whether you realize it or not.
>>47352785>Biden is such a gook selloutThe man literally supported the TPP which would've destroyed the chinese economy
>>47367649https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/11/21/trump-campaigns-biggest-election-lawsuit-fails-in-court-pennsylvania/?sh=3cb552404802https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/21/politics/federal-judge-dismisses-trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit/index.htmlI think I've got the MO down.You'll say something that isn't true, then somebody will provide evidence that it isn't true, and then you'll say that the evidence is fake because it isn't aryanwolf1488.blogspotLet's try it out.
>>47352785>>Biden is such a gook sellout that he'll probably even go tell Xi personally that he trusts him more than his own secret services.Isn’t that what trump did with Putin in Helsinki?
>>47367649>The fiction that there is ANY conservative media is drilled into the heads of leftistsAh yes. Like anygood cult you tell the marks to break up with anyone who could help them spot the bullshit. Fake news! Then you tell them it's actually "the others" doing that. And so the cultists stands there in line waiting for his Kool-aid, while screaming about how everyone else are brainwashed.>2/3rds of AmericansAlso knowing that the typical authoritarian follower that are the target audience are at heart a very cowardly bunch, terrified of opposition and desperate to belong to and by approved by a large group you tell them that they are actually just the loud part of an oh so very silent majority.
>>47367719The body language after they spoke privately just says everything.
>>47367686Lying is a conscious choice, you can't lie without realizing it moron. That's called making a mistake.>>47367701Post archives, both sites have paywalls. I had to go to the official site to find it:https://www.pamd.uscourts.gov/sites/pamd/files/20-2078_202.pdfIf you read the whole thing the judge admits that Poll watchers were denied access AND that the rules and regulations weren't applied equally to both Biden and Trump votes. He just claims that because the plaintiffs can't prove the fraud helped Biden (since there was no audit as yet) it doesn't matter that there was massive fraud.The judge in question is an Obama apointee, beholden to Biden. Trump didn't "lose" this lawsuit, he's just moving it to higher courts out of the muck that Biden has created back when he was VP.By the way this same judge refused to grant the time needed to collect the evidence, namely the sworn witness testimonies, which he now says "don't exist".But a higher court will simply overturn this corrupt fuck.Saying this means the "case is lost" is like saying Roe v. Wade is a "lost case" because courts lower than supreme ruled against.
>>47367774There is not a single media outlet that is center, let alone right of.>authoritarian followerFaggot you literally run the entire government, business, and media and use it to suppress peoples free speech. How the fuck am I the authoritarian?If I was even saying this shit to you anywhere else I would be banned.
>>47369559You've been thoroughly countered on how you're wrong, yet continue saying full-on lies. Hence, you're a liar, just as the rest of your post proves.>>47369609>There is not a single media outlet that is center, let alone right of.Sure, if "center" to you is so far right that Fox is somehow on the "left" and not a hard right-wing network that has only pushed a right-wing agenda since its inception. You're a complete fucking idiot.
China won’t win retards. Well just bait India into doing the ground war while we pound their ass with our air force and navy
>>47369609It's interesting to see the Right eating itself like this, with the Magapede/1488 crowd trying to rewrite reality like this guy.
>>47369835>Sure, if "center" toOk name one media outlet that is pro feudalism, or pro sovereignity and seperation of cultures and races.These are introductory centre right wing agendas.Yet you name Fox as HARD right, which is presumably way beyond simple ethnocentrism and into genocide. When the fuck has Fox advocated genocide?
>>47369890>Ok name one media outlet that is pro feudalism, or pro sovereignity and seperation of cultures and races.No, those are extreme right wing positions. Thanks for proving my point.
>>47366910Absolute lel. Republicans are a minority party and have lost every popular vote in the last 20 years and is a party with no future. The vast majority of people live in cities in the U.S. and most people in cities vote blue. The only thing that allows you flyover faggots representation is the outdated Electoral College which makes your votes 400% more valuable than parts of the country that actually matter.
>>47369914If feudalism is extreme right then what is nazism?Do you think multiculturalist communism is centrist or something?
>>47354885>>47357325Hopefully Trump gave them some F-35 stuff on a thumb-drive or something >>47358293> 200 of their men killed*15 of their men killed, guilty of guarding defensive positions merely associated with the 200 attacking Iranian/Syrians killed.
>>47369937Are you seriously this indoctrinated? You know that from an objective perspective, Biden and the Clintons are Center-Right, and that Warren and Sanders are barely Center-Left. You are seriously stupid if you think Fox News, a conservative bastion of groupthink and propaganda, isn't right wing.
>>47369944>*15 of their men killed, guilty of guarding defensive positions merely associated with the 200 attacking Iranian/Syrians killedThat Russia didn't deconflict to prevent them being hit, and hasn't actually told even their own people how many died.
>>47369972Fox news is the most right wing mainstream media source Ill give you that. It isnt remotely right wing by any objective standard though, its centre left.>Biden and the Clintons are Center-RightHahahhaa fucking WHAT? Turning five year olds into trannies is centre right?!!! You have zero objective perspective on the world, its all just subjective nonsense. You, an antifa faggot, consider yourself centrist, reality be damned!Just curious.... What the fuck is your example of a far left person????
>>47370267>Fox news is the most right wing mainstream media source Ill give you that. It isnt remotely right wing by any objective standard though, its centre left.This is only true if your perception of what is center is extremely skewed by a complete lack of understanding of reality.Note how he has no ability to argue rationally and starts throwing around boogeyman buzzwords as if they mean anything.
>>47369944>>47369980Its not even 15, its just 2 ethnic Russians who were part of Wagner group, which is basically their version of Blackwater/Xe. The others were chechens and locals who were recruited for the job.Not a single Russian soldier was hurt.
>>47370297>Note how heWho are you talking to, its literally just us and its 1 AM. This thread wont even be here tomorrow.But since you think people who are ok with assasination, mutilation of children and genocide are "centrist", the question remains:>What the fuck is your example of a far left person????
>>47370267he's right though, despite what Breitbart, OANN and Fox would have you believe, "turning 5 year olds into trannies" is not a policy position of the Democrats and "Antifa" is not an organised group. You're spouting schizoid nonsense as if it's fact. Compared to parties in other developed countries, the Democrats are right wing. They still don't want to pursue fairly fundamental centre-left policies like universal healthcare. Your opinions are a sad indictment on just how far the overton window has shifted right if you truly believe a return to segragation is centrist just because you're not outright killing all the black people.
>>47372672https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/22/fact-check-joe-biden-wants-zero-discrimination-transgender-kids/3714732001/>"Antifa" is not an organised group. Neither is Al Qaeda.You will never be a woman.
>>47372672>how far the overton window has shifted rightAnyone who lived through 2000-2010 and 1990-2000 knows the overton window has been shifting to the fringe left. Either you're a young cunt (opinion discarded) or you're gaslighting.
>>47349403Big if true- but hard to verify.Likely propaganda.The F-35 program is stugglign though with the German euro-fighter just one in an already long list of setbacks
>>47372807"Trans people have a right to exist, because everyone has a right to exist" and "Biden has a plan to turn 5 year olds into trannies" are a long way apart. Personally I don't see why the far right have got themselves whipped up into a fury over other people's genitalia - and if that's all your focusing on you're likely to have your pocket picked. It's classic misdirection. I guess while that was going on you didn't notice that Trump's "Tax cut" is actually a stepped plan which will have those earning under $75k seeing a greater increase over the next 10 years than those on the highest bracket? Dems won't touch anyone under $400k, but your obsession with "muh trannies" mean you'll be paying more. https://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=4245&mn=1167472&pt=msg&mid=21290948>Neither is Al Qaeda.Al-Qaeda has goals, a cell structure, leadership and funding. "Antifa" is literally just college kids going "Fascism bad" and maybe waving a flag to feel special. They aren't the same, despite what Alex Jones or whoever your schizoid nutjob of choice is winds up spouting this week. >You will never be a woman.I'm a dude, dude. No plans on changing that. Is this projecting or something? "Everyone that doesn't agree with me must be a tranny">>47372819You're accusing me of gaslighting in the same sentence than you're saying that public discourse in the 90's/00's were further right than we are now? Outside of "public discourse" i.e. identity politics (which literally don't matter because it's like 100 folk bitching on twitter and easily ignored), we've been barrelling right with a brief respite under Obama. Tell me the near-universal outcry around the patriot act was a right wing phenomenon. How about Bill Clinton's tax reforms? Gingrich's 'reforms' starting in the mid nineties have been slowly marching us right policy-wise for the last 20 years and America is worse for it.
>>47354934we desperately need a new mccarthy to get people like you out of politics and the military for a generation or two because I fear the violent consequences they'll force everybody who isn't a commie to resort to
>>47361861the word you're looking for, the word that nobody seems to be able to find, the word that describes this creation of context with some truth and uncorrected misconceptions is narrative farming
>>47372672>just how far the overton window has shifted rightYeah 40 years ago everyone was communist, pro gay marriage, pro interracial marriage, and pro child mutilation.I don't know what happened in the 80s!!!!
>>47373101>Outside of "public discourse" i.e. identity politics (which literally don't matter because it's like 100 folk bitching on twitter and easily ignored), we've been barrelling right with a brief respite under Obama.Left wing identity politics is mainstream and taps onto a cultural trend that is in favour of it. Capitalism basically sells the left wing cultural narrative to the people and it can be seen mirrored in political decision making. The reverse is hardly the case. Right wing identity politics hardly ever wins in respectable discourse.
>>47349403>LM purposely fucks up the F-35 coding so that Chinese industrial spies steal a botnet instead of actual codeBrilliant
>>47349403Should have bought Tejas
>>47367719I like how it took so many replies for this to pop up. Yes, this is basically the intent behind my post, to see how people would react.
>>47373988>the most effective way to meet that challenge is to build a united front of US allies and partners to confront China's abusive behaviours...It's nice to see a future president with the cognitive ability to from realistic policy principles as opposed to "WE'LL JUST MAKE THINGS GREAT YOU'LL SEE" garbage rhetoric.
>>47373149Fuck you, Nazi.
>>47373427>Still accusing everyone of being communist when basically nobody is pushing thatNobody is pushing socialism (workers owning the means of production) either. We just want to unfuck the medical care system mired in greed and inefficiency because being for-profit with everything funded by a parasitic middleman is the worst way to do it.>pro gay marriage, pro interracial marriage, and pro child mutilation.The first two are just you being an easily offended toolbag. And the third doesn't happen. If they get proven to be legitimate cases of gender dysphoria they'll get puberty blockers to delay things long enough to be really sure, and hormone treatments after, but nobody's "mutilating children."
>>47373858It's impressive how none of those are actual definitions of the Conservative-Liberal axis.
>>47373427>pro child mutilationWasn't that pushed by conservatives wanting to reduce masturbation or do you only care about it when it affects an irrelevant percentage of the population as opposed to most men?
>>47349417retard, dropping out of TPP was greatest gift US has ever given CCP. TPP was literally designed to build an economic fence around them and make the play by the rules. Now they are putting together their own trade coalition to do the same to us. Trump fucked us hard, sure the middle class gets fucked either way, but fuck. oh and hmm amazing when you start to network weapons systems they are vulnerable to hacking, its not like vendors care, they just want to sell, sell sell and then hire some retired generals and lobbyists and sell sell sell some more.
>>47367693double this, at least retarded it more since they would have had to play by the rules, meanwhile Trump co. was granted valuable trademarks and shit in China, while he was President! how fucking blind are you? this is how warfare done now between powers. Dick waving, pocket picking and kompromat. the whole tarriff thing was a flaccid attempt to look tough while actually handing the Chinese more of an advantage.
>>47367257>affidavits from cultists willing to throw their lives away counting for anything
>>47376013TPP was awful, and would have failed completely had the US not pulled out. It actually became a solid anti-China trade bloc due to the fact that it wasn't basically a globalist, pro-China mass to force multinational corporate control over the economies of every member state with a 'if we think any political or economic action taken by a company or government will result in us losing money, we can sue you to get your way.' clause Obama was pushing in.
>>47373988>no link>no source>shilling for Slow JoeWew, you expect me to believe that?
>>47376226The TPP was made to protect intellectual property rights and punish anyone who didn't abide it, China would've got fucked by every nation that signed the deal, the ones against were China and a bunch of dumbasses that thought it would take jobs away without ever citing any evidence of that happening
Hahahaha this board its fucked its 90% shills.We need another *chan.
>>47377148go ahead and leave
>>47377148>Any who dare argue against my lies is a shill durr
>>47356437way to factor in pandemic losses you colossal faggot.
>>47374812Expecting you to pay for services you to consume isn't greed and our system has the best quality of care in the world. And fuck off with your disingenuous, you fags worth through incrementalism and normalization. You may not want get what you want now but you want to make it look acceptable.
>>47378682We have the most economically inefficient healthcare system with absolutely zero relationship between costs and quality of service. Single Payer is a far better system, as basically every other first world nation has proved.You're a complete idiot who votes against his own benefit because he thinks being enslaved by capitalists ripping you off for every cent is "freedom."
>>47378787>most economically inefficient healthcare system with absolutely zero relationship between costs and quality of service>Single Payer is a far better systemlol no, costs have gone up because the government got involved. Insurance and service was cheaper pre ACA If you want the costs to go down overall we need to start enforcing pricing in Europe and stop subsiding all of their medical care. The reason Pharmaceutical companies charge what they do in the US is because they cannot make a profit back in Europe because of their laws and if they didn't sell said drugs European governments would just send people over to steal patients or the drugs themselves and make them in Europe.
>>47378924I can't hear you over Europeans paying half as much per capita for the same services.
>>47378924>lol no, costs have gone up because the government got involved. Insurance and service was cheaper pre ACAOnly because half of Americans couldn't afford any care, which is not a sustainable situation. Medical costs were the #1 cause of bankruptcies prior to the ACA, which is a really fucked up situation in a country that can afford not to drive its citizens into medical debt.
>>47378924America doesn't subsidise European healthcare, smoothbrain. They have their own pharma companies and hospitals.
>>47379043It must also be noted that the primary reason insurance costs under the ACA went up instead of down was because the Republicans intentionally broke key measures in the law that had been keeping the rates down.
>>47378787Economically inefficient in what way? We allow people to sue hospitals for millions for things as petty as a misplaced bandaid. The primary savings comes from administration, so instead of increasing government oversight, maybe we should decrease it. Single Payer has lower quality of care and wait times. Not to mention they quite literally can't even fund certain operations at a given time and you want to tout them as "better" because it means a parasite like you can go to the ER for a papercut on someone else's dime. Tell me what my interests are commie filth, pretend you know what's good for me.>>47378931Yes, for shittier service.
>>47379043I like how we went from 20 million americans are uninsured to half of americans can't afford healthcare. The posts keep moving.
>>47379447>>47379472>Being this much of a toady for the ultrarich
>>47379447>don't give people preventative care or a regular doctor to go to>they just go to the ER because you legally can't turn them back>end up paying for universal health care in the ER, plus private healthcare for everyone elseAlso, do you honestly expect me to believe that American health care is the best on the planet? Because it's the most expensive on the planet. And yet, I have to go to the ER at four in the morning because my retard GP misdiagnosed my appendicitis as constipation.
>>47379501>Being this much of a toady for the ultrarichyeah I'm sure the Ultra rich hate the ACA. I mean it must total stick it to them by eliminating all the smaller Health insurance companies and providers and consolidate power and money into a handful of companies that they surely aren't invested inFuck off Kike.
>>47379539>Oh boy my shitty coverage I got through the marketplace sure is shitty>I'm so glad the Government eliminated competitors, I bet if I let the government control even more of it it won't get even worse.
>>47354885Bullshit Biden isn't compromised in some way by China, his entire foreign policy towards them is "sorry we fucked up and made you mad! we're sorry and we'll trade more with you again!"
>>47379686I doubt this, as obama stated the pivot to china.It's not 2014 anymore. The world has changed and the only bipartisan thing in the us is "fuck china"
>>47379619If the ACA was good for the upper class, they wouldn't have deployed an army of shills against it.
>>47379704He literally has stated before that he wants to increase trade with China again and return relations to their prior state. He may not want to make China a full on ally but any policy other than full on decoupling is moronic at this point.
>>47379708>If the ACA was good for the upper class, they wouldn't have deployed an army of shills against it.Upper class and Elites were the fuckers shilling for it none stopMiddle class America didn't fucking want it because most of them would lose the coverage they currently have for something far worse and shittier and Holy shit when the ACA passed 80 million Americans lost their coverage and had to pay more for worse coverage after. But keep sucking King Niggers dick you Kike.
>>47379730>He literally has stated before that he wants to increase trade with China againLook at when he said that.
>>47379762Is that why the GOP wasn't able to repeal it even when they had all three branches of government?
>>47379770He has Been talking about increasing Trade with China over the past few months and continues to want to do business with them.
>>47379775Why the Fuck would bureaucrats want to reduce their control over Healthcare?Are you really this fucking retarded?
>>47379539Preventive care usually translates into unhealthy fucks being unhealthy and it coming to bite them in the ass. Making an appointment for a checkup is cheap but then Tyrone wouldn't be able to get those Jordans.Most expensive? I pay less in premiums than they pay in taxes and I can see a specialist far quicker than they can.
>>47379807Elected officials aren't bureaucrats. Purple state republicans refused to repeal Obamacare because they didn't think they could do it and still win the next election.
>>47379961And the heart of the matter. politicians more concerned with keeping their cushy jobs than doing the right thing.
>>47379992Their voters think that they did do the right thing, that's why they're still in office.
>>47380030That's an assumption.
>>47380044It's the assumption that the Republican members of congress made when they were deciding whether to vote on an Obamacare repeal bill.In fact, it's a decision they made over and over again, given how many times that a repeal has come up in congress.
>>47380080There's also the fact that they don't have a plan to replace it with, because it is their plan. It's literally just Romneycare adapted for country-wide implementation. It's the market-based program they wanted, but were pissy about because the Democrats put it in place.