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what can i do better?
god i wish i knew japanese
>>44681920how do i even know what im reading is correct. how do i know that im reading it right.
people passing N1, reading vinnies and linnies comfortably and watching anime with no subs in under a year is definitely someone who "made it" fast.people who take 10 years to do the same are obviously doing it really slow.so, what is the middle of this bell curve? 2 years? 3?
>not being able to read japanesewouldn't be me
>started learning Japanese to read bara comics faster 学び続けるべきだ
>>44681993How do you know what you just wrote was correct, that you wrote it right?
>>44682029listen 17C we don’t need that kind of attitude towards the newbie. he’s asking a legitimate question here
I've heard you also learn a new language faster if you already multiple languages, don't know how true it is.
>>44682115It’s not true at all. ESL’s just say that to sound cool, which is hard for them given their accent.
Is aniwatch not working for anyone else?
こんばんは
>>44681993same way u deal with english pronunciation. There are sometimes consistent rules for different vocab sources, on vs kun or native english words vs old french borrowings, latin/greek crap, etc. but with exceptions abound in all of it. Words that use both on and kun readings are not really that common. mostly stuff with 場 ive seenmanga library is down. anyone know where it is? i have reading i want to do right now...
>>44681993if you meant the meaningthe best you can do as a beginner is see that it makes sense and doesnt contradict other lines
誤解は解けるかな
>>44681993Immerse more.
>>44682115I was learning german as an ESL and it fucked my english beyond repair.
have you every reread something you read super early on and realized that you didn't actually read it, you just created some fanfiction in your head?
>New imabi site is bright fucking white.Why? The old site wasn't an eye gouger, so I assumed he had some common sense but I guess I was mistaken.
>Seeing native Japanese get filtered by kanji in 漢字でGOJesus Christ, this language is truly a never ending sea of torment.
>>44682435dark text on a light background is easier to read than light text on a dark background.
you can find tons of illiterate english natives too that doesnt mean english is hard
>>44682465contrast works the same in both directions what are you talking about
>>44682452You watching a ブイチューバー? Not too surprised either way. Even in English, there's a lot of vocabulary that would trip up adults who aren't avid readers. Most people don't read many literary things in any language.
I can't even learn conversational japanese...
>>44682535I would think the difference is that, even if you don't know what the word means, you can still read a complex word in English. You may or may not pronounce it right, but you can at least attempt to read the word out. But if you don't know the moji that make up the characters then you are just straight filtered in trying to read the word.
>>44682568Is there a practical difference though? Sure the English reader could sound out the word, and the better read they are they better guess they could make when sounding out the word, but they still wouldn't know what it means just like the Japanese reader.Also, the Japanese reader could "sound" out the new word by using readings of the kanji they have seen before. Even for completely new, never before seen kanji, they could make a guess of how it sounds with well read reader being able to make better guesses, just like in English.
>>44682115>I've heard you also learn a new language faster if you already multiple languagesQuite true. You already know the drill and most of the groundwork is already done for you, so all you have to concentrate on are the language-specific bits and blending in with natives.You start thinking less about "how do you say this sentence in another language" and more in terms of "what would a native say in this case?"
>>44682519every time this is researched the same conclusion is reached: dark text on a light background is easier to read than light text on a dark background. this is true for multiple measures too, speed, how long you can read before you get tired, etc.
>>44682589you're more likely fucked for kunyomi but otherwise yeah there are still similarities in sounding things out
>>44682604how lit was the room
orange on cyan background trust me
>>44682604>dark text on a light background is easier to readBig fat lie perpetuated by boomers in offices. The truth of the matter is:>black text on a white background became the norm with WYSIWYG editors (to avoid printing erorrs)>dark text on a bright background on emissive displays SUCKS>bright text on a dark background causes the pupil to dilate, which requires adjusting text to be thinner. likewise, dark text on a bright background requires thicker type weights>lastly, people with certain types of astigmatism fare a lot better with darker backgrounds
>>44682633Astigmatism sufferer here, I'm not sure what types would fare better with dark mode, but white backgrounds definitely make it easier for me. I never made the connection that dark mode was causing more eye strain until my ophthalmologist pointed it out.
>>44682633>dark text on a bright background on emissive displays SUCKSThis is the main factor. You can bitch about the perceived difference in contrast or whatever as much as you want but 500 candles of white bullshit is physically painful. I can't wait until OLED monitors are ready for mass adoption.
>>44682667I have irregular astigmatism. Fonts on white backgrounds are too fucking thin for me so I switch dark mode on whenever possible.>>44682677>OMEMESucks. The only good thing I got out of them is that app poojeetlopers are now forced by corporate to include a pitch-black dark mode to avoid burn-in.
as for me? i just see
Once every couple of months I feel horrible the whole day so I "cheat" on anki, If the word has an extended vowel but I think it didn't or vice versa, I mark it correct instead of wrong. If I get the concept of a word vaguely right, but I'm thinking of another similar word, I'll mark correct instead of wrong. Sometimes I get an obvious word completely wrong, but I cope and I think I'll get it right next time since it's an easy word, so I mark it correct instead of wrong.The only reason "cheat" is in quotes instead of straight up calling it cheating is that I don't just mark every word correct, it's just that the standard is way lower on that day than it usually is.
>>44682452>native Japanese get filtered by kanji in 漢字でGOYeah, because we all know the average Japanese person is totally used to seeing shit like 昂る, 嵩む, 鯣, 瓢箪, 迦葉仏, 屑い(see 潔い), 弖爾乎波, 忌忌しい, 明々, 眩暈い, 野次馬, 諮る/議る, etc. on a daily basis
Should I enroll in an introductory Japanese course at my uni?Probably bad for my GPA but I want to force myself to learn before my 19 year-old orbitofrontal cortex develops to its full extent.
never gonna get used to seeing people discuss japanese like this hereguess og won in the end
>>44682756>2nd year of Japanese course>barely finished MNN 1 (unit 27 right now)>ultra basic kanji like 切る, 写真, etc.I dunno. It's slow as molasses to me.
>>44682739just outed yourself as n5
>>44681920I need help with direction, I just finished a grammar guide and I know around ~1500 words / phrases and I'm wondering where the hell to start with immersion. I understand that everything is going to be sluggish but I'm just looking for suggestions.
>>44682837Read something easy that you find enjoyable and mine everything you don't understand. Yotsuba is a popular choice. Rereading something that you've read in English is also an option.
>>44682837read yotubato
>>44682837
>>44682739>The kanji is obscure, so obviously the layman won't be able to read it. Obviously nobody but the most autistic of scholars should be allowed to read it.Shut up, nerd.
at last, it all makes sense
>>44682837https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU0SfzdK6ws
>>44682863>>44682867>>44682868>>44682892Thank you very very much for the suggestions
>>44682879>twisting the wordsdid you get your knickers in a twist (heh)?
>>44682880Wait until you learn about the archaic verb forms from which many of our modern transitive/intransitive pairs descended
>>44682837you waited until 1500 words to to any immersion? what
てしまう can mean both "completely" and "accidentally"Hmmm
simau means simausore dake>動詞の連用形に助詞「て（で）」を添えた形に付いて，その動作がすっかり終わる，その状態が完成することを表す。終わったことを強調したり，不本意である，困ったことになった，などの気持ちを添えたりすることもある。
やっちまったなぁ～
もう使わないと思ってしまってしまった(ﾟ∀ﾟ)ｱﾋｬ
>>44682880I recommend grouping the directional verbs>あげる 差し上げる やる (I give)>くださる, くれる (someone else gives)>もらう いただく (I receive, have someone do something for me, etc.)
holy shit the core 6k is so worthless past the beginning. I am halfway through the core 6k deck. I uploaded my progress to jpdb to see the known words % on various VNs and LNs I want to read. Looks good I think. Then, I notice an option to force set every card in the core 6k deck to "never forget" meaning that it is now considered known to jpdb. Now I excitedly check the same VNs and LNs to see how much the known words % will improve when I finish the core 6k deck. It literally only went up by a percentage point or two. Most VNs and LNs are in the high 70s and low 80s percent, so one or two percent is not big in the same way going from 98% to 99% would be. No, the core 6k deck is just shit. I should've listened. It's one thing for others to tell you something and another for you to see it yourself.
core6k and word counting are both flawed because no one needs separate cards for miru mieru miseru
any site/communities you guys recommend for practicing speech? I want to try talking to random japanese people to get speaking practice
>>44683081I agree, but the stats are still fun to track for the motivating factor. If anki didn't have a stats page for me to track my retention rate and my growing mature cards, I probably would've stopped anki a long time ago.
>>44683097Chaturbate worked for me
>>44683097in japan there is a community that speaks japanese
>>44681920is there an addon that forces Anki (2.1.49) to skip a day? like move all reviews 1 day forward so I don't have to do 2 days worth of reviews a day every time I'm trying to fix my neet sleep schedule?I already tried "Migaku Anki Add-on" and their "day off" just doesn't do anything at all. maybe I'm retarded and forgot something, but it just does nothing. I can't use their stand alone version because it doesn't work for my Anki version (2.1.49) which I can't update. the other one I found "Postpone card's review" also isn't available for my Anki version.
https://files.catbox.moe/qc87ch.mp4what dialect are they speaking? they are in the niigata region
>>44683162I don't understand why you'd ever have to do 2 days in a row? Say you normally sleep midnight to 8 am and do anki at 6 pm. With a neet schedule, you sleep later and later maybe sleep 6 am and wake up at 2 pm. Then you sleep at noon and wake up at 8 pm, etc. Either way, you are still doing anki after you wake up. Give some real numbers in an example so I can understand, cause when I try to reset my sleep schedule, I usually don't have this problem.Maybe try changing the "Next day starts at" setting to something later? I have mine set to 5 hours past midnight so even if I hardcore procrastinate and sleep late, I can still do my anki without breaking the streak. You can also change that number before the day ticks over. One day I came home really late and increased the setting from 5 hours past midnight to 7 so I could do anki before I slept. Since I didn't sleep, I don't consider the day over yet so I didn't think of it as cheating the streak. The next day I simply changed the setting back to where I wanted it.
>>44683097go outside if you live in a place that has japanese people
>>44683225Due to various reasons, I entirely rotate my sleep schedule at least 4 times a month. Sometimes I have to stay up for 24 hours a day, sometimes it happens slowly an hour or two a day. Issue is that I'll 100% have to deal with double reviews a day at least a handful of times a month.>Next day starts atI already do that. Every single time I wake up I take a look at the "Next day starts at" time. I absolutely loathe getting spammed with double reviews midsession since I don't do them all in one sitting sometimes. I just don't want to have to do double the work a single day, for something that seems so easy to fix.
>>44682432only happens if you're low iq
>>44683254Just use jpdb for your SRS in that case. You can transfer over your anki progress into jpdb. jpdb uses an actual forgetting curve so it doesn't matter when you review a word. If you review a word as soon as it is due, the interval increases the normal amount. If you review a word later than when it was due, the interval will increase more since the system expected you to forget it.To explain the system more accurately (don't read if you don't care about the explanation), for every card the system has a predicted forgetting curve. Some fake numbers for example: with a newly learned card, the curve might be after one day 80% chance to remember, after one week 50% chance to remember, after one month 25% chance to remember and so on. A mature card might have a one day 99% chance to remember, after one week 95% chance to remember, after one month 90% chance to remember and so on. When you answer the flashcard, the system updates the forgetting curve of that card. It updates the curve more the more wrong the prediction was. If the system predicted a 1% chance you get something right and you got it right, it will heavily change the forgetting curve and same if you got something wrong that the system predicted a 99% chance you got right. The system also updates the curve more or less depending on if you hit the easy or hard button, so those buttons are actually useful on jpdb to make the algorithm better. JPDB doesn't just send you reviews all the time, otherwise you'd be doing a bunch of pointless reviews that you are 99% accurate on that don't change the forgetting curve much. You can adjust how many reviews you get with the "Review interval length" setting. It doesn't change the algorithm of the forgetting curve, it just changes the threshold on the forgetting curve for when a card is considered due.So, it doesn't actually matter when exactly you do reviews on jpdb, just that you do them. I would use jpdb, but I like using anki on my phone. JPDB can be used fine in your mobile browser, I just don't like it compared to a separate app that is designed for mobile. Also, I hate having all my progress saved in one website that could go down at any time. jpdb has lasted a decent while and has a fairly big patreon, so it probably won't disappear, but it is still bad. JPDB does have the superior algorithm, so purely on that, it wins over anki.
I just realized WaniKani is a fucking scam after getting a lifetime subscription.Should I chargeback and piss off these snake oil saleschuds?
yup ez win for the moe派
>>44681920I like sweaty breasts/
>>44683556Irl breast sweat smells bad unironically
>unko humor
finna
>>44683929not meant to be funny
>>44683162fsrs4anki helper can easily postpone however many cards you want
hate casual scum
there are a lot of casual scum thats too much hate for one person to bear
theres only one unko and ive got enough hate for him 10x over
we all hate unko so theres a sense of unity in it
おんよみ AND くんよみ
>he doesnt know nanori
>>44684223>>44684263You hate me because i post pure estrogen fat japanese obasans?
fat is just fat its not part of sexual dimorphism
>>44684469Wtf
God, mixing the kanas with kanji makes the text look so fucking ugly. I'll just learn enough to read children's books and call it quits.
what a shit opiniona good balance of kana and kanji is beauty
>>44684576but where the fat is gained is
>>44681920is this frufi or his cousin? >>>/v/651341512
>>44684718screenshot looks like something that can be made sense of so it cant be frufi
>>44684626you were clearly born with shit aesthetic taste so maybe try dutch or esperanto
Why isn't it こんばんわ？
ha is a holdover from pre kana orthography reform
>>44682568I actually think it's easier for the english native learning japanese than the other way around. with japanese you just have to look up the word and find its yomikata, which isn't perfect but is close enough to being able to recognize the same word when you hear it. a japanese person learning english wouldn't be able to trust anything short of pasting the word into google translate to hear what it sounds like. I think early reading without audio is actually a really bad idea for learning English compared to Japanese
>>44685312What?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_kana_orthography#Current_usage>The use of を wo, へ he, and は ha instead of お o, え e, and わ wa for the grammatical particles o, e, wa is a remnant of historical kana usage.
>>44685377I guess I'll just keep the correct spelling in mind and ignore all that nonsense for now.
>>44685377they totally pronounce it wo occasionally though
they pronounce baai as bawai sometimes tootrust no one
>>44685331>with japanese you just have to look up the word and find its yomikataAs if Japanese pronunciation was straightforward (wait, was it aME or Ame? Was that word odaka or heiban? Was I supposed to do 鼻濁音? Is it Mizu or Midzu? (it's the latter))And then you have the untold amounts of time wasted to input a word whose reading you don't know using handwriting input or radical search. Sure, you can try OCR and texthookers to save time, but those are not always available.>a japanese person learning english wouldn't be able to trust anything short of pasting the word into google translate to hear what it sounds likeYou have stuff like the IPA, taking advantage of minimal pairs, pronunciation patterns (-ate is usually /eɪt/, -ight is /aɪt/, etc.), etymology (e.g. entrepreneur comes from french).I'd worry more about non-obvious stuff like strong forms vs weak forms (e.g. from is /frɒm/ when stressed, /fr(ə)m/ when not stressed). Thankfully, learners quickly figure this out unconsciously because it's obviously impossible for natives to speak fast using strong forms all the time.
>>44685431>>44685434This is very much dialectal and nonstandard.
>>44685515yeah i've seen some natives real mad about it on hinative
>>44685331or they can just learn IPA. english has fewer sounds than there are hiragana characters
>>44685531I've seen を pronounced as "wo" in careful speech or singing but otherwise it's very uncommon.
dont care about this nerd shit just wanna know how bro fucked his neighbor
>>44685434silly anon, 標準語 is all there is, just like BBC English and General American are all ESLs need.
is cure dolly really dead?
yeah it's pretty common for old people to die
silly anon boomers don't watch precure
>>44685613She's alive in my こころ
>he doesn't know
someone on plebbit claimed she didn't die, was he full of shit?genuinely curious cause i'm new to her channel and it makes me so sad if she really died
Should I read Tae Kim or Cure Dolly's complete transcript?
>>44685646enlight me senpai
>春華が振り返り、ヨーコに小さく別れの合図のように視線を寄越した。 しかし扉の外へ出たところでふと足を止め、目を薄く炒めて通りを見回した。tf does 目を薄く炒めて mean
>>44685852just that she's very old
they meant 眇めてnative mistakehappens all the time
natives need rtk
kinda random question but how would you say "lots of love from your readers" in japanese?
愛してるよ
>>44686151Isn't that too direct/intimate? I was thinking of 愛を込めて or something but idunno if it sounds too stiff
>>44685891Thanks
>>44686176Like I was thinking of 読者より愛を込めて, does it sound natural?
because ko n ba n why?because i gotta
Just got tinnitus on my right ear after a sound effect earrape in one of Cure Dolly's lesson video.
that just means it's working
>>44682115I can't necessarily speak on how "things just clicking easier" would play a role, since I'm certain that has more to do with the structure and flow of the other languages.I can however say that if you've already been thrive the process of learning a language, you already "know the drill" and have more reasonable goals. Kinda like picking up saxophone after you've played violin for some time, or getting back into running after you've been away for a long while. You know what progress will look like and the effort required to get you there. In that sense, it's much easier since you're aware of the journey and the demands. I'm sure there's also some brain-science thing that makes it easier if you work the language centers properly, but that's just speculation on my part.
HOLY FUCKHOW MANY FUCKING WORDS MEANING SERIOUS DOES THIS LANGUAGE HAVE真面目本気真剣Neck yourselves unbelievable
>>44686770>HOW MANY FUCKING WORDS MEANING SERIOUS DOES THIS LANGUAGE HAVE>Words — 177 found
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36579399/dont skip on sleep high iq bros
>>44686813Not a big deal. Youll learn them all someday anon
best one is シリアス
shiriasu
immersionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tecEfRu1j6U
I think most djters need subtitles. sirankedo ,'3
https://twitter.com/ShadowgardenMoG/status/1703967156298293267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z-jYVV1Rac
>もう数力月お会いしてないのですからWhy there's a 数力 next to 月 here?
数ヶ月
>>44687217数か月there are a few different ways to write it
>>44686151acquired
>>44687234>数か月Ooh, gotta write that one. Thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgKd4ayTlcA
Im now having my nightly mental breakdowns in japanese
>>44687378I like Otoufu-san :O
same but been that way since last week
>>44687442it's the afternoon lil bro
Its only been like 4 days max... what do i do i legit communicate with DeepL. maybe she just wants to brag to her friends that she has gaijin boyfriend but she is very innocent and attention starved not sure
gaijin cringe
Yet i get more bitches than you, horton side profile*dab*
同盟軍兵士「うるさい！このおかっぱ頭のちぢれマイマイガぁ！！」translates into State Soldier"Shut up you frog faced whiny little tomboy!!"
>>44681952see >>44682413
i wish cure dolly was my gf
https://anichart.net/Fall-20234 days till fall season startswhat are we watching?
nothing because almost every show released in the past decade and change has looked like complete vomit
>>44685331>I think early reading without audio is actually a really bad idea for learning English compared to Japanese.Yes. That's probably a bigger part of why in school they make children listen to English audiobooks and make the kids both read and hear out the English.
>>44688408Kagejitsu, Saihate Paladin and Shangri-La Frontier Definitely watching those three
>>44688486yep *cracks open beer*
>>44686770Maybe Japanese people just needed about 170 plus words to express how serious they were being, anon. That's just how seriously serious they were.
>>44688486woah aniki, you holdin up alright?
>>44688548Maybe it was just one guy who nobody ever believed, so he just had to keep making up words to express how serious he was being until everyone believed him.
>当たり前>「当然 (とうぜん) 」の当て字「当前」を訓読みにして生まれた語okay
「真に迫る」を覚えた
>>44688998https://streamable.com/7czmm5
zamn
こんにちは！！
shut the fuck up
What does の do in this sentence?
>>44681970You don't. Coz once you do, you will realise how terrible 99% of their media is.
>>44681952You could post something useful like your retention
>>44689493https://www.tofugu.com/japanese-grammar/particle-no-nominalizer/Scroll down to Relative Clause + の
>>44682837Read something that interests you."Difficulty tier" lists of anime/manga are all pointless, because the "easy" stuff they recommend is all really really bad.You have to actually be interested in what you're consuming.
>>44682868Watching any of these would bore you to tears if you're over 9 years of age and female, and would probably cause you to give up.>>44682919Light novels are not for beginners.
>>44689542*and not female>>44685613No they just ran out of material once they finished plagiarising Jay Rubin's book
do I just need to finish a grammar guide to start immersing
>>44689524thank you
what are some jp games i can play for entertainment/immersion as a beginner. i tried pokemon but im not that into these games.
>>44689640anything with a game script
>>44689640https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1ukDIWSkh_xvpppPbgs1nUR2kaEwFaWlsJgZUlb9LuTs/htmlview#
>>44689560start immersing right now
nigger
https://youtu.be/-b6lwL_LPv0?si=KDLsejMe1YVJP2z7This is someone's mom
https://twitter.com/makaino_ririmu/status/1704111576205435149it's so over
>>44689640try to find western games with japanese dialogue, games like the witcher 3, cyberpunk 2077, recent bethesda games, AAA series like Far Cry, Assassin's Creed etc. you can check steam(more likely) or gog to see if they have it in japanese
https://github.com/open-spaced-repetition/fsrs4ankisomeone mentioned this earlier is it any good?
>>44689692FSRS's algorithm is statistically better than sm2 that anki's default algorithm is based off of.
I felt like shit after today reps. I have other things I need to prepare for tomorrow and I couldn't give my all today, this sucks.
wonder if anyone's ever sat through an entire nukemarine "let's read japanese" series
how do you check retention? and what is an average retention rate
>>44689687>it's so over
Day 121: Update late today because got home very late because of traffic.
>>44686151You forgot the accompanying pic
>>44687632>she is? OTOKO desuThat's a nice name. I wish you and your girlfriend Otoko success
>>44690178https://streamable.com/o52zvr
>>44689655>kanji section>see 応>no mention of 心 as the 部首>广 listed as the "cave" radicalwhat the fuck 广(まだれ) is the cliff radical. It's related to houses and buildings. The popular name derives from 麻(ま)+垂れ(たれ), although 麻 is its own radical (あさかんむり).Why do kanji resources push groundless fanfiction?
>>44689640妹!せいかつ～ファンタジー～>>44689960https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1779060522it's probably best to aim for 0.8 and then optionally increase that up to 0.9 if you prefer getting more answers right for the cost of having more reviews.and by prefer I mean that a higher retention rate will likely make reps more comfortable plus it'll make you a bit more likely to recognize any given word from your deck when reading.
Day 14 of doing 17 cards a day.I made it to 2 weeks!
>>44681920Is it a good idea to learn Kanji radicals or should I just hard memorize the character?
jav of the day: 3641686
https://youtu.be/a7Gj28zJNRM?t=936what dictionary is this and is there a guide on how set up google sheets like this? the copy and paste thing
for me personally it was 3780016
>>44690467what do i do with those numbers
>>44690458Start by learning words and if you find later you have difficulty differentiating stuff like 待持侍 then give radicals a go.
>>44690458Radicals help me break down shit into manageable parts.歪み? That's just 不正 (excuse the pun)
>>44690526Forgot it was about radicals, not characters. Anyway, 学 is just ⺍(つかんむり) + 冖(ワかんむり) + 子(こ)
tfw i literally look like i have モブ顔 in photos
we don't accept negativity here. it's called having high powerlevel hiding skill
phew I guess that's enough for today.
13 fortnite 冠s
>can read kana slowly now>inner voice is the narrator from Mushishi
>>44690629what are you reading. i can slowly read kana as well but i don't know how to learn words.
>>44690641ももたろう. I don't understand a single thing though.
>>44690703very based post, you're learning a lot of culture tho im sure of it
How do I get an old Japanese couple adopt me so I can live the Japanese NEET life?
>>44689805wtf i fsrs rescheduled my cards and it gave me over 1k cards to review
>>44690898that means you don't know the cards as well as you think you do. more specifically, those cards have a lower retention rate than what you requested fsrs to aim for.
>>44681920Should I be mining absolutely everything I don't know?
>>44691032no, you need to prioritize frequent words to some extent
>>44691088こんばんは
why do people say 2hu if its more like toe hoe
>>44691148Touhou から o をとると tuhu になり、tu を発音つながりで数字の 2（two: トゥー）で代用することで 2hu となった。4hcan や Tumblr やその他東方ファンが集まるブログやオンラインフォーラムやウェブサイトなど、海外の東方ファンの間で使用されるスラング。
why call it toe hoe when it's not even about toe hoes?
>>44691173still doesn't answer my question
>>44691174how big is her fucking foot
900 vocab, basic grammar. what should i start to immerse with at this stage? i dont care about enjoyment ill enjoy anything jap related
>>44691032be a little selective about what you mine. make sure the sentence makes sense on its own and you under everything but the word your mining. it'll make reviews go by easier
>>44691229I started with stuff aimed at children. TV, book, video games. Stuff that requires little vocabulary and low reading comprehension while you're building up foundations
so they call it ゲーム機, i had always assumed it'd be a loanword like コンソール
>>44691502isn't it a game machine, is it?
>>44691417Anything meant for children that won't make me so bored I don't retain a goddamn thing?
HelloTalk is not so bad if you know how to talk to people
how difficult is it to go back and play shit like the old pokemon games which are entirely in kana
>>44691502It's been around for a long ass time
>>44691502Why is the console itself called 本体? Why not just say ゲーム機? Or does the latter also include stuff like controllers, memory cards, etc. that come in the box?
>>44691598If you already understand stuff its very easy. Actually the part that challenges your vocab the most is not the mental hiragana conversion of the dialogue but the move names, cause it's mostly stuff that's always written in kanji outside of pokemon. Even that's pretty easy, it's like a fun check to distinguish between words you've actually acquired and words you can understand before acquiring thanks to kanji
>>44691598>play shit like the old pokemon games which are entirely in kanaのろいThat's all.
>>44692000Move that makes ヤドン a fucking tankHighly underrated
>>44689542>Light novels are not for beginners.nothing of value is for beginners but beginners need to jump in anyway to stop being beginners>>44691173つふ
Immersion
>>44692045You really are 鈍い(にぶい).
is it worth playing pokemon for kana reading, ive already been playing it a bit it's just mentally fucking taxing
>>44689542im enjoying keion at 31 youre a retarded teenager
>>44692156no, just start reading stuff with kanji if yuo want to read
>>44692156Just watch the gameplay videos. sirankedo :3https://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm41506131
>>44692173it's just not the same...
>>44692156idk i didn't do anything pure kana just do something fun
>>44692151you're so learnèd and wise for understanding puns(sorry I forgot to say "yeah das a cool pun")
>>44692156No reason to do that because stuff using kanji has kana in it too so you'll get kana practice regardless
fuck bilingualmanga.net just got taken down, it was the only site that had what I wanted to read. been looking for a decent alternative but can't find anything, does anyone know any?
>>44692396Download your manga from nyaa or dlraw
>>44690162lmao
>>44691174dame
>>44692396fuck
Does the jp eshop accept american credit cards? If not how am I suppose to get dragon quest in jp. It's on sale for 3 bucks on the nintendo eshop. I really don't want to waste time trying to pirate switch games my switch isnt even hacked or whatever
>>44692886You might not even be able to hack it, last I checked they don't have an exploit for the newer system versions.
>>44692396Last I checked that website was shit and had none of the series I wanted to read, so I can't say I'll exactly miss it, but sorry anon, why not ask here and see if anyone has it or can find it? What series was it?
>>44692112good manga
>>44692886try it and let us know
>>44692886no, you have to buy point cards for the jp e-shop
crazy how you constantly have to jump through hoops to pay for raw media because of taxes trade laws localization contracts pricing inconsistencies etcor if you pirate everything is simple as usual
for a while you could buy game download codes and gift cards on amazon.co.jp with western credit cards without the overcharging that resellers put on top, but they put an end to that as wellhad to write with the japanese customer support because one of my orders was stuck on processing and they told me my credit card was no longer usable for this content and deleted the order
>>44693072stfu mlen
>>44693109>>44693192maybe ill just play whats on stram with jp language options. does this mean i wouldnt be able to buy shit on amazon jp either?
>>44693289>does this mean i wouldnt be able to buy shit on amazon jp either?nta but i assume nothing significant has changed for physical goods and the old situation was it depends on the seller
yh i think im back bros
>>44693289you can buy pretty much everything else, but if you check prepaid cards or switch download codes they now all have thisyou can still get those point cards really easily on other sites like playasia, iirc they mail you the code right away
also dunno there might be services that use a japanese credit card and address to buy stuff for you
lol theres an easy solution
probably way cheaper to make a friend
>make a friendnot easy
networking is ez bro
if you're functional enough to want to pay money for media then you can probably make friends. sirankedo :3
>>44693535Hard when you're not sociopathic enough to pretend to enjoy someone's company to benefit from them
im too functional to want to waste money on media
>>44693550you have to go back
every interaction is transactional lil bro
even these ones? on djt?
yeah bro even an altruist gets something from helping others or he wouldn't do it
every post i make is with the intention of decreasing someones nihongoryoku or to baiting someone into increasing mine
all my posts are part of a social experiment
there is no such thing as an altruist on djt
yeah always be careful of posters ""helping"" others 90% of them are freaks
the only good advice that a true djter is gonna give you is read more and watch dolly sensei
おはようおにいちゃんｄｊｔにさちあれ
god i wish i had an imoto
>r**d more100% freak
read more utuge
i dont often give advice but when i do...
comprehension increases 75% when you are depressed
i watch nakige jikkyous to lmao @ women
you mean i can just watch other people read vinnies and i don't even have to read them myself
i couldnt do that id fall in love
i couldn't do that i'd start masturbating
same thing
689for me its namasensei
once saw a niconico jikkyou of sayooshi by a woman and the comments were calling her cute for not being able to read the kanij
>>44693109why do nips insist on retarded region locks for language settings? do they hate money?
>nipshe stands out like a sore thumb
it has to do with avoiding competition between the developer and the localization companies buying rights to sell in specific countries
rewatching mushoku tensei
more like muimi tengay
waiting for the next season of the greatest isekai ever to air
after tp4 the anime is going to do poorly
>>44693227What does "mlen" mean?
>>44694128fuck off
dno its best to assume anyone who says it is a schizo
>>44694161mlen to you too
zubosi lol
>>44693884>noooo you can't use internet slanggo back to lelddit. I heard the jannies at learnjapanese are hiring
taion tard cant help himself
dont care
crazy what adhd genes and lack of a titioya do to you
unko can attest to the latter
>>nooo you cantspeaking of reddit lmfao
huh
nip is the n word to weebs
weeb here dont care at all
you're on 4chinz there's no n-word
125ers i pass the torch to you youve been trained
finna finny this vinnie
wonder how many historical djters didnt make it
must be thousands
we da elites
>>44691229onikiss
chaos head is goodchaos child is badsteins gate is oksg0 is shitrobotics notes is shitrn dash is probably shitare occultic nine and anonymous code also shit?
yoshi got a second date with my future japanese wifeall the years of anime and eroge have paid off
doesn't count if she isn't over 40
btw i was called a sagishi by the owner of an izakaya because my nihongo was too jouzu
>>44694897the /djt/ method works after all
>>44694897awaiting your travel blog
Here in this example 渡る is taking a direct object. Does that mean while intransitive verbs don't require direct object, they still can if they want to?
>>44695090を is also used with intransitive movement verbs to show the path the motion moves through or the point it started fromlike 家を出る leave the house or 前を通る pass the front, go through the frontit's a separate usage of を than the direct object usage and doesn't mark an object here
>>44695134I get it now, thanks anon
>>44694940what is the djt method
>>44695202read and watch more
watch me do your mom
>>44694897glad to hear youre enjoying japan bro
You know doujin is good when manko gets its own speech bubbles.
>the mankois it freestanding
>>44693660wrong
>>44694855how many event flags have you had?
is 日本語 even real
allegedly 100 million people speak it but no one outside of of japan has ever learned it so there's no evidence
おはよう！！
honestly cruel that the sister doesnt have an h scene in nekopara
can't take nekopara seriously
dont think u r supposed to
>>44695407
曲https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It55Sei1qyg
>>44693072>>44692427i don't know if im retarded or something, but i genuinely can't find k-on! college anywhere except for nyaa, and that takes 6 hours to download. and im using a laptop right now so its not convenient.
worry not my fellow sisconskami-sama has answered our prayershttps://vndb.org/v32946
Do japs have the same word for dream(as if I want to be rich) and dream(as if I woke up from a scary dream). If not, what are the words for both?
38000+ unique words....I'm gonna commit sudoku.
>>44697135across 28 volumes so not that many actuallyif it was 5 volumes yeah it would be nuts
>>44697135Keep in mind that JPDB counts particles, names, double counts words if they're also written in katakana, has entries for common combinations, etc. So you'll probably have significantly less cards that you consider words. Still a lot, but not 38k.
>>44696471it was announced for vol 5when it ever comes out
>>44696996hell it's about time
>>44694830chaos head is goodchaos head lcc is okchaos child is okchaos child lcc is shitsteins gate is oksg0 is shitrobotics notes is goodrn dash is beyond shitoccultic nine is okanonymous code is beyond shit
右石
I'm two thousand words into 2k/6k and haven't learned katakana
not even natives know katakana
>>44697499can you read those VNs?
please refrain from frogposting in /jp/
>>44697499>chaos head is goodkek
frogposting is an essential part of japanese culture
>>44697499what is good about rn
i've never seen pepe in 5ch
>>44697633yes, but dont read occultic's vn.>>44697701characterization. mainly from the main duo. has the best characters in the kagaku adv series.
What's DJT's consensus on LTK?Is it worth owning a physical copy?
no idea what that is
loving the kanji
>>44697596i've memorized close to 2k kanji but haven't even touched kana.
is the timer on anacreon's texthooker page accurate? did I really spend 3 and a half hours on a 1 hour movie
>>44698197i love chinese characters, but I hate how the Japs fucked them up with irregular readings.
irregular reading is the best part of nihong0 cuz is the biggest filter ever
what kanji is this? i tried searching by radicals and using an ocr but i cant seem to find it.
>>44698256nevermind its 膏. i swear everytime i ask a question i instantly find the answer.
japanese was never meant to be written
What's are some good stuff for passive listening? I waste so much time of the day doing nothing, might as well constantly input.
passive listening isn't input
>"NOOO YOU CANT JUST IMMERSE IF YOU'RE STANDING UP OR WALKING AROUND. UNLESS YOU'RE A LARDASS ROTTING INFRONT OF YOUR DEKSTOP MONITOR FOR HOURS UNINTERRUPTED ITS NOT REAL INPOOT AND DOESNT COUNT
>アニキ、なんか別顔のお客さんだぜi can't find any dictionary entry for 別顔. is this just one of these words you're supposed to get without any help?
嚔
Is it normal for the が particule to be barely audible, if audible at all when spoken by native speakers?
>>44698826gesundheit
imagine japanese without kanji or without any chinese influence at all, i wonder what it would be likewould this thread still be autistic
>>44698918>imagine japanese without kanjiImpossible. You'd sooner have to realize a bizarro world when the Japanese were humble enough to adopt Hangul as their lingua franca instead.
>>44698805Isn't it just particular face?
>>44698790you can do active listening while walking around you know
>>44698918were the chinese critical in the development of anime/vns? if so then yes the autism would be gone
whats matts degree
imagine japanese without a writing system
imagine japanese
imagine if the Japanese just used English to begin with
>>44698554vtubers
>>44698238if you love chinese so much why are you learning japanese just learn chinese
>>44699381how else would he shill in djt
>>44699381no chinese media is watchable
>>44697027Can someone answer this please?
go to google and type japanese english dictionary
tfw you score 69
never stop fighting against evil
>>44699428Yes, 夢 (ゆめ) is the universal word for dream. They can be a dream as in a desire or wish>私たちはあなたの夢をかなえることができます。>We can make your dreams come trueor it could be a bad dream that you had>怖い夢を見た>I had a bad dreamAlso, this isn’t a chatgpt response before anyone asks.
chatgpt wouldn't put arrows in the post
japanese people just call their big brothers "onii-chan" and see nothing wrong with it
it probably would if you told it to use quote arrows sardonically
破門雁首並べて現し身呼び物天道（てんとう）脂が乗る一捻りwords from today
sad
>>44699628
"Those sounds, simple and few in number, are very well suited to notation by an alphabet, and it is perhaps one of the tragedies of oriental history that the Japanese genius did not a thousand years ago rise to its invention. Certainly when one considers the truly appalling system which in the course of centuries they did evolve, that immense and intricate apparatus of signs for recording a few dozen little syllables, one is inclined to think that the western alphabet is perhaps the greatest triumph of the human mind."- G.B. Sansom, Japan: A Short Cultural History (1931)
>>44695090It's just how verbs work in moon.道を歩く->Walk along the road. You have to add the preposition in English or it won't make sense.>>44695134>and doesn't mark an object hereIs it not a 目的語 from the point of view of Japanese?
>>44699932Took me way too long top realise that 脂 meant fat.
>>44700305>Is it not a 目的語 from the point of view of Japanese?No
>moon>目的語
>>44700325were you thinking about 油を売る?
>>44700338I just used to think that nips were obsessed with oily food.
>nips
>>44700355I meant to write nipples.
I am aware of only one other person who is in a similar situation to me, and he was translating the re:zero novel before he had other priorities. He was also one of the few novel translators who were successful on Patreon, earning almost $2,000 per month, as reported by TranslationChicken.I've been studying Japanese for almost 4 years, but despite being able to read and watch almost anything like i would in English or French, I am utterly incapable of speaking or writing any Japanese. It's not that I'm shy or anything, but I couldn't speak grammatically correct Japanese if someone held a gun to my head. Additionally, I don't think in Japanese the same way that I do in French or English.It's not like I care; I dislike Japanese people and wouldn't interact with them anyway. However, it's funny how the brain functions. I also have trouble producing the kanas from memory, but i instantly recognize them when i see them (it's not even recognition at this point, the kanas are like the regular alphabet to me). I can say with pride that I'm a retard who CAN accomplish what he strives for now that my journey through Japan is almost over. I used to feellike a mythical retard being unable to produce things N6 could.
>>44695090yea intransitive verbs sometimes use wo to mark the place like を出る. still this doesn't make them a tadoushi afaik
most people in this thread can't produce it's just how it goes
true true (didnt read)
love nipssimple as
let's nip this in the bud
>>44700361wow he doesn't have a skill you didn't put time in to develop, how surprising
Day 122:Today session was not difficult but there some card from yesterday that kinda mess me up.
>>44700337>>目的語yes. moon terms aren't always equivalent to the English terms so it makes sense to specify.
>>44700361>I am utterly incapable of speaking or writing any JapaneseStart today then faggot. Write shit. Self-introduction, how was your day, journal entry, friendly letter to a friend, a thank you note, something.
>>44700490>It's not like I care; I dislike Japanese people and wouldn't interact with them anyway.I came here to be an attention whore, if i wanted advice or practice i'd go on the serious Djt thread, not the faggy one.
よし確かにうけとった
>uppercaser>crossboarder>talking about outputevery time
what does oka mean? is this 陸? the guy saying this is a 船頭.
>>44681920New thread:>>44700693>>44700693>>44700693
>>44700669It's all deliberate. I just get a rise out of riling up sissies like you.
>>44700669>noooo! youre only allowed to use one board on 4chan and nothing else because...I said so!
/diy/ is my main board and i only come to /jp/ to visit djt and sometimes look at the gravure threads (i love sexy woman)
>>44700791based crossboarder anon
I have several other boards I main, and like a dozen that I pop into occasionally.None of them are /jp/ lmao, I just come here for this thread alone.
djt is a board
welcome to djt dot com
crazy to think how much time weve spent in /vt0/
i'm a warrior of djt
