Previous thread: >>42848374This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished?
Sorry for a late thread. I got way too immersed in reading.
>>42901378how can people read VNs from a guy that advocates for masturbating using dead chickens
>>42901385I still can't believe he came up with that weird ass example of all things.
>>42901385Sounds more like a reason for reading his VNs
mfs really debated social theory from 2 guys talking about fucking their actual mothers.
I'm only interested in fucking actual sisters and daughters
>>42901061The fuck was her problem?
>>42901909She just wanted to make a girl fuck dogs on TV for the amusement of rich men. What's so wrong with that?I prefer the pig fucker anyways.
>>42902079I like depraved shit, but man the pig stuff (Honestly the whole farm stuff) was a bit too much for me. Though, the Turkey scene gave me a chuckle.
>>42902104I appreciate JxJ for having some very, very creative bestiality scenes (where else are you going to see orca fucking?) but honestly I just don't like girls being raped by animals that much. I prefer consensual animal sex.
>>42902111NTA but when was the last time we've had dedicated bestiality eroge? The kink has all but died out on multiple mediums. Hell, there used to be H-manga dedicated to it. What happened?
>>42902207It was JKxJK, right? I think they were all coming from 1-2 companies and they died off. Bestiality is out of fashion these days.
>>42902211Can you share the crack for that one? Missed the boat when it was fresh.
>>42902243I lost it when I got a new PC, the crack makes every antivirus program freak out and it kept getting deleted and I got tired of making exceptions. Can't help you there, sorry.
>>42902211Drei, Delta, hell, even BlackCyc has some decent bestiality stuff. Seems rare just to see a new VN with a single scene of dog on girl.
>>42901152That's the spirit
>>42895850>Do I need to read Love x Holic to get into Mama x Holic?No. Mama is an alternate timeline where the events of Love didnt happen as a side character put them into a coma.Though I prefer Love Holic and its worth a read.
>>42902599>muh 1080x720 res peasantMama > Love. Not just in production values but in scenarios too. H-scenes are passable.
I can fix her
>>42901378Why is she touching her face? That seems unconfortable.
>>4290397335+ year old mother of two
>>42904966twins, daughter and disgusting hikki neet son
vnchads, if I read like 50 vn in jap will I become fluent (at reading) like you bros??
>>42905098It really depends on how you mean to read them.You could become fluent enough with much less if you do it smartly. And you also could fail to learn anything at all if you read MTLs.
>>42905098just limit your reliance on mtl and remember to stare at kanji/compounds you don't know really hard every time you rikaichan 'em
>>42905098I read like 30 of varying lengths so I'm not quite there yet, but I think 50 should about do it.
>>42905098>become fluent (at reading)Obviously, forget about being fluent talking/writting though.
They are scared of the vibe defloration.
>>42905800I became fluent enough to freely talk with japs on discord by just reading out loud for a few months
^not even a convincing lie. who hurt you that you want to mislead newfriends like that
>>42906398Lmfao dekinai-kun, go read your moege with textcucker or something.
>>42906398Speaking is definitely a skill of its own, but if you can truly understand Japanese on a high level then it shouldn't be that difficult to express yourself and you will likely become fluent very fast.
>>42906500he might be an american that has a complex about his murrica accent or something
>>42906398Are you assuming that everyone is a sociophobe like you who is afraid to talk with people even online or something?It took me less than a month to get comfortable enough to speak in English from basically zero experience irl even though my language has nothing in common with it so my pronunciation and accent were (are) beyond garbage, but the main advantage here is that 99% of people don't give a shit about that as long as you are at least understandableIt's way harder with japs because they have no experience in talking with broken nihongo gaijins and don't tend to adapt to your talking speed but it's still doable enough with a few months of practice
stop talking about speaking japanese and make me feel bad for wasting 5 years of having available native partner
>>42906600How are they wasted? Wish I actually had someone like this, especially if they are also into eroge and stuff.
>>42906616i was able to court someone online who is ready to talk to me every night (or every other night). I just wasted all those years dicking around with kanji instead of serious studying. We are still in touch these days
>>42906628>I just wasted all those years dicking around with kanji instead of serious studying.How do you even spend that much time on kanji, you only have to know like 2500.
>>42906647university and life got in the wayi started and restarted a few times on learning all the kanjis. It took a worldwide disaster to have me get off my ass and do that damn thing.
>>42906647DJT syndrome. Just check their thread to find out why they are like this
>>42906537stop projecting on medid you guys even read his post, he said he could fluently speak to japs after a few months of 朗読, that doesn’t train your output ability at all and it’s barely enough time to train your accent unless you’re getting feedback from a japyou can become pretty good at writing to japs after a few months of writing assuming you do it a lot and start off with a high level of reading but that ain’t what he said
>>42906647hey i remember when i was green and wanted to just watch anime w/o subsi did wanikani and shit for 2 years just to realize that i still can't read a simple sentencethat hole is really fucking deep where you are just talking with people about learning jap without actually learning anythingdjt is actually what managed to bring me back to senses and realize how much time i wasted
you don't need to beat yourself down the fact that you didn't manage to do it means it wasn't worth doing in the first place, at that point of time.you was just lying to yourself at that time that learning japanese was important, but it wasn't.everything have just causes
>>42906680>stop projecting on meI'm european. Your entire post just confirms my suspicion
>>42906680Well yeah it's obviously not just 朗読 since I had several years of reading eroge as a backgroundI meant to say that you can definitely get good enough pronunciation by simply reading out loud even without any previous experience irl but you for sure need to have enough language experience to be able to at the very least express yourself
>>42906714You having a stroke or something bro?
>>42906752its a hard pill to swallow, but that's how life worksif you are not ready, you are not ready
>>42906763i would say it's more like whether you get lucky to find the right people at the right time who would lead you to enlightenmentpeople pretend that they are so cool for learning the right way but they definitely had some luck at some point to find out about that way in the first place
>>42906694>2 years just to realize that i still can't read a simple sentence
>>42906824hey at least that were some fun 2 years of dickmeasurings with wanikani levels on their forum where everyone was so nice and supported you!!!!
>>42906849I had never really heard of wanikani besides seeing the name pop up next to words on jisho.org, but could you explain to me what's so bad about them out of curiosity? I just checked their website and it didn't seem that crazy. Do they just never encourage you to read anything on your own or something?Sorry for the off topic but I never browsed DJT so this shit is kind of interesting/new to me. Here's a totally unrelated cute screenshot to satisfy >>42906791
>>42906949it's just kanji-focused learning through their funny mnemonics with some words on top of that but most of those words were pretty useless that you would already know by knowing kanji anywayand yea i can say from experience that focused kanji learning with mnemonics is complete garbage and a waste of timetheir community made an effort to make you read stuff like yotsuba but never encouraged you to actually break your comfort zone and instead were soothing (lying) to do that everything is supposed to be that slow and that spending 2 years on their course of basic kanjis was completely normalalso their literal obsessity with genki and other grammar grinding before reading shit didn't help either
>>42906740>yea i just conveniently left out all this information to flex on a newfag lying by omission is why so many newfriends give up learning jap, they see retarded impossible stats like “i became native proficiency in 4 months without living in japan ONLY by reading vn and watching anime (omitting out the detail that i’ve been learning jap on and off for since at least 1 year before)”this is jap learner cult autism, get this shit out of this general
>>42907034Damn, it almost sounds kind of impressive to stick to something that futile and tedious for that long.
>>42907072>“i became native proficiency in 4 months without living in japan ONLY by reading vn and watching anime (omitting out the detail that i’ve been learning jap on and off for since at least 1 year before)”>this is jap learner cult autism, get this shit out of this generalNever heard anyone in this general claim anything of the sort though.
>>42907072Why do you keep fighting imaginary foes? My answer was initially to this dude >>42905800 who thinks that reading is the only thing that eroge can teach youNo it's not, it definitely can teach you how the language sounds if you don't skip voices and if you put enough practice into imitating it by reading out loud you can get good enough pronunciation for talking with random japs in the internetI don't give a shit about teaching newbies or whatever you are trying to do here
nice shit taste, dumb loli.
>>42907178man she was so hot why they had to give her a throwaway 1hr long route
>>42907178So what's your favorite FPS anon?
>>42907192I don't even really play FPS games, I just enjoy being a hater.
Ok so I finished almost all of the nitro games and I'm still yet to find a chuuni that would actually make my insides burn from the 漢 energy like it is supposed to.Demonbane is what I have next on my list and I want to hear some opinions about it to decide how low or high I should keep my expectations.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8lfy_5oG0c This opening is what actually gives me that real nostalgic chuuni feel that I was longing for all this time but I'm really afraid to expect anything anymore given how the rest of nitro games have failed to impress me in comparison to their openings.
>>42907330I would say medium maybe? I'm a chuunifag, and I enjoyed demonbane (both of the games), but neither would be anywhere near my favorites.
>>42907034i studied the rtk deck for 3 months and have the meanings as well as recognition down for life. What are you talking about?
>>42907330What does "almost all" mean? Demonbane is great, but I've never played a bad nitro+ game.
>>42907330It won't give you as much 歓 into the 肛門 as all the homosexual nitro+ works you've been reading till now. Django is my favourite one.
>>42907348What would be your favorite?
>>42907629I'm more of a Masada and Nasu guy myself when it comes to chuuni so their VNs.
>>42907488There aren't bad games but most of them were not kind of what I expected them to be.I haven't read Sumaga and Hello world, but from the rest of the games, the only time I actually got that trembling feeling inside was the last fight with Ichijo in Murasama.
>>42903973damn bratty ojousama...i'll give her some correction
>>42908049Each time i see hatsuyuki sakura screenshot i want to reread it again...
>>42908259why? its not that good and other sagapla games mog in the cute girls department.
>>42908530The music man, that music has never left my head ever since i finished ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYH44RHBySMJust roaming through winter night city and eating oden with sakura under this bgm is literally all i need in this life..
>>42908530>>42908608it's the definition of comfy.
>>42908650Shit ending = comfy
Any games with a sleazy/perverted mc (that isn’t moege or pure nukige, nothing against em just not in the mood for one)?
>>42909356Bruh what the fuck, it has plenty of weak parts but that's definitely not endingsYoru ending is still my all times favorite, the whole sotsugyou part of the true ending was so damn beautiful i just couldn't stop crying
>>42909426I didn't read it to be honest.
>>42909671BUT considering it's Niijima I'm fully in the right to think the ending is indeed shit and you're wrong.
>>42909734What else nijima did you read? it's not as depressing as natsunagu but it's still pretty damn bittersweet so it's prolly not for you if you aim for pure happy endingsstill really beautiful overall though
It's gotten to the point where circles specify that their art is not done by AI.
>>42909864I would do the same if I was in their shoes.
>>42909864so by this logic can i just assume everyone who doesn't specify it uses ai now?
>>42909873Nah I'm pretty sure DLsite forces the tag on AI works and bans anyone who doesn't admit it.
>>42909864The one someone posted last thread makes me suspicious AI was used.
>>42909873There's no real reason not to specify, shit with AI art is still selling very well on dlsite.https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01018735.html
>>42909910Looks way too 下手 to be ai
>>42909917Art that's hot as fuck is gonna sell, surprise to no one.
>>42909978The weird hair shimmer and the mismatch between faces and bodies makes me think it's a (poor) implementation of AI.
>>42909978>>42910034They used AI but then edited it to make it look bad on purpose.
>>42910137How about you use your autism to instead find out information about the staff and the company
At what point does Nukitashi get better/good? I've been reading it for a bit, right now we're searching for Fumino (i think that's her name? 文乃), and so far it's just...ok I guess. I'm not really seeing why it was getting so much praise, at least right now
>>42909910>>42909864I suspect there's going to be a lot of people using AI art as a basis/reference and tracing over it or modifying it slightly into their style in the future.
>>42910283>I've been reading it for a bit, right now we're searching for FuminoDo you have any idea how little that narrows it down?>At what point does Nukitashi get better/good?I love Nukitashi, but the common route of Nukitashi 1 has some serious pacing problems. There's way too much 'how are we gonna get home today' and it gets repetitive. It's the worst part of the frnachise I think it improves significantly once you get to the 2nd OP, and Nukitashi 2 is even better from there.
>>42909910>>42909917The world cogs have been broken
>MC's wife is kidnapped, she gives birth, and his infant son is murdered.I just wanted a fun historical moeplotge. They didn't have to be this accurate, basically everyone's dying horribly, this is really depressing.
>>42910759>They didn't have to be this accuratethis is what keeps me from reading miburoi already know the sad tale of the shinsengumi and don't to see it happen to cute girls
>>42909811sounds like a long way of saying 'you're right it is a shit ending'
>>42909910https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8299878762Here's a thread with some chinks discussing it, but the artist has almost 200k twatter followers and has been posting the same art on pixiv for 4 years https://www.pixiv.net/users/2681650
>>42912087This site made me wish I knew Chinese. I MTL'd the thread from Chinese to Japanese, because I thought it would make less mistakes than Chinese to English, but it's still fucked up sometimes. Look at how many discussions they have. 50 active threads in the past 90 minutes. Is there an active discussion site like this in Japanese?
>>42912087Is he trying to make as ugly nipples as possible what the fuck is wrong with this dude
>>42912087But AI art was only a thing since late last year/early this year right? I dont remember seeing it much before.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but it's been bothering me for ages.On VNDB what's the deal with the letters next to the gender/sex, in pic related for example? Some characters even have no letter at all. I couldn't seem to find an answer in the FAQ.
>>42915216Blood type, japs are obsessed with that shit for whatever reason
>>42915228>>42915232Yeah, it's really obvious it was blood type now. Strange that it's next to gender though. Thanks
>>42915270People who are familiar with eroge character introductions will probably recognize it instantly as a blood type. That's why no one has bothered to explain it.
>>42915312do japs really pay attention to which blood type is fictional character?
>>42915359I think at least authors pay some attention to match blood type of characters to stereotypes.Maybe it was a bigger thing some time before but I think I haven't seen eroge users paying much attention to it nowadays.
>>42905381Which ones have you read that you like the best so far?
>>42915359Birthdays and three sizes are even more meaningless, yet the fictional girls always these. On the contrary, the hymen state is far more important but rarely, if ever, mentioned.
>>42915535it's important but it's generally pretty obvious what it ismoege = intactplotge = long gone OR intact but mc has to watch someone else break it
>>42915535Birthdays are at least nice to celebrate both by makers and fans.Three sizes and height could also mean a lot if you have particular preferences for body types. It's bad when three sizes are obviously different from how characters are drawn though.
Birthdays are nice but there's so many characters I like with birthdays close to each other that it gets kind of overwhelming I remember when I tried to draw fanart for girls I like on their birthday every year, I burnt out... but then if a character I like gets barely any fanart or love on their birthday I get sad
>>42914373Yes, that's my point.
>>42915535>not celebrating their birthdays>>42915562meds
does anyone have Kazoku Keikaku ? I've looked everywhere I know
>>42915921Yea you won't get far just by reading stuff like thisLiterally just go ahead and try to read Kikokugai for 5 min and you will realize your actual level
i'm a simple man, someone can't find a moege, i go to the ends of the earth to find it for them, someone can't find a cuckge, i sleep
>>42915921I agree with the other dude. I read a lot lot more than 50 and there are still rare parts which can completely throw me off. You need to cover all different genres to get an actually good pool of vocabulary.
>>42916016>>42915997I would still consider myself an intermediate at best so I'm still adding a lot of words. These are just some of my personal favorites, not my recommendation for the most efficient ones to learn Japanese.
>>42916058Barely intermediate after 30 titles should indicate that it's time to switch stuff aroundThe shorter nitro titles are usually a good start
Just be a man and read one long game with a lot of writing. You'll be ready for anything after that.
>>42916107Maybe I'm underselling my ability a bit. I'm finally at the point where I can read an average moege and only look up words every few minutes so I don't exactly know what that makes me. Thanks for the input though.
>>42901862Used goods are not allowed.>>42901867Now that's closer to my strike zone, except both brains and tits are needed. NBR oneechan-types are nearly perfect, you basically start with wife material waiting to get gf'ed right from the beginning.
>>42916206No problem, I added your name to my stalking list and I will be looking forward to your rating of Daito.
>>42916269lmao alright man, only on the second route now so stay tuned.
nbr onee-sans are ok as long as they groomed the mc and have been raping them from a young age
>>42915535really i dont understand this, theres enough people that care yet like u said noone does it, its especially annoying when its really vague during the scenesit could just be at the end of the game, like some character stats, or maybe they could sell some kind of detailed setting documents for the people that want it(i know this kind of already happens, but its almost always only really general plot/character backstory stuff)
>>42916576bless you anon
I can't view him as enemy anymore.
>>42910503Well I just got to the part where the class president twins rape the MC, so am I at least close to being done with the boring shit?
Any VNs with a heroine sort of like Kaede in Shuffle that's sort of justifiably guilty about having wronged the protagonist but not in an NTR kind of way?
>>42916978If you find the humour and gags boring, I would say drop it. Do you want me to change your diapers too?
>>42917377Then you'' have to continue reading Nukitashi2.
>>42916338Name 5.Here are 1.5 to get you startedKimiaru (half sis)https://vndb.org/v581Kinkyuu Sengen (BR sis)https://vndb.org/v19688
>>42917543>シリコン入りokay, he lost me there
>>42917316I don't remember the details (it's been a long while) but the queen in Himekishi Angelica abandons her nobility in order to follow you in exile in her daughter's route.Fucking rotten bitch, I was too disgusted to interact with her even once throughout the entire game and the devs STILL forced her on me as a baggage to poison my baby-making life-long vacation in the woods with her superior daughter. Yes, I am STILL mad about that a decade later.Needless to say, I didn't play her route, but this is the closest I can think of.
>>42918081I can't quite figure out how that's related to what I said. Either way, why would you go into cuckge expecting good or pleasant things to happen?
>>42918106Very directly, her guilt forces her to willing pay the price of wronging you.And I don't believe thatA) trading your lover for a position of powerB) before the game even startsC) in a game about getting revenge for thatcounts as cuckshit. A betrayal, sure.
>>42918136Seems like the part where the heroines get repeatedly gangbanged by other guys counts, though.
>>42918163That exists? Well, if it does AND you're suffering from a competionist's autism forcing you 100% everything, then you should probably skip it. Otherwise try not sucking at the game too much and you won't get the bad end.
>>42914373No, it's been around for a while. It's only been good/widespread since last year.
>>42916978>class president twins What the fuck are you talking about?
>>42916338this one was a cool guy
>>42918244the class president and her sister fucked the mc in the woods
>>42918264Sure, they're not twins though.
>>42915535I disagree about birthdays, many times the devs celebrate it and it also can serve a purpose in the story, or possible append patches>three sizesNow this is the true meaningless shit because most of the time the sprites don't actually reflect the three sizes written in the character sheet, specially the hips>hymenThat's pretty much implied with the tag "heroine with sexual experience" though
>>4291883390% of moeges have no hymen since they don't have cgs with blood which means that moeges have nothing but sluts
>moegesesl eop bro...
>>42918886Tell me who hurt you
Are there any other titles with open racism?
>>42919174It depends on where you draw the line at. That dude in Muramasa was a more extreme example and there's not really any other quite like him I can think off the top of my head. But a more general "ick not this ethnicity" type of sentiment is reasonably common.
Does anyone know a program that will let me input a manual translation for a specific part of a VN without having to unpack the files?
>>42919214I just want more racist vocab and expressions
>>42919268I doubt this exists
>>42919268Depends on the engine.
>>42919296The game's Reika Final. I've tried messing with the game for hours with different programs and couldn't get the script.
>>42919279Play the fandisc.
>>42919174>>42919325how tall is that nigga
>>42919325>>42919174Haven't played the game. Why does he behave like 4chan's true self insert?
>>42919345America is still white in his world so it's understandable.
Looking at how stuff like Fuyukuru keeps getting switch releases makes me really interested in how they actually managed to make that shit allage when the h scenes there were 90% of the plot
why are all the good eroge about depression
>>42920090because you worship meme faggot writers
>>42920136i only worship little girls
>>42922157it's a shame uguisu kagura is pretty much deadthey made depressing/tragic games that weren't exceedingly depressing
>>42922362I remember lucle saying in a stream that istoria wasn't that depressing because it had a happy ending
>>42919268https://github.com/marcussacana/StringReloadsYou might have to write another program to use that program, though.
Which one is the better mech series, Muv luv or Baldr Sky?
>>42924427baldr sky is for real plotchads, muv luv barely has any ntr
>>42922157I hate this shit where two characters look like they belong to different species, and the non-heroines look better.
>>42924427Muv-Luv. Baldr doesn't really focus on mech autiism
>>42924543Aliens are moe.
>>42924427Muvluv is the only chuuni that doesn't looks like it is written by some edgy autist
>>42924543Not the worst case of ayylmao out there. Some uguus had higher impact back then.
>>42924573not a good thing
>>42924578That art is okay. Some Key VNs are worse
>>42924427Muv Luv but I've only played one Baldr game (sky).
>>42924601The laser class was always cute desu
>>42924601Actually the most effective alien design i have seen so farSo simple yet so terrifying when you actually get to face them
>>42924543Shes still hot af regardless
I have been rereading Muramasa and just noticed a detail that still doesn't make sense to me regarding that helmet thingSo I always thought that this scene was referring to the moment after he raided his mom as those flashbacks always were shown back to back but now reading the 5th ch he clearly mentions while looking at the helmet that it became like this a year ago. So it means he actually cut it down at the moment when Hikaru got that disease? But what exactly made him lose his sanity and made him achieve his akki mode and why that scene was left unexplained if it was that important???
>>42924456Other way around, you can avoid the NTR in BaldrMuvluv is based and you can't avoid it and get a a 20 minute scene with the heroine describing how much she loved in it depth Truly a series for cucks
>>42924971Actually wait that's not exactly rightI forgot that there were 2 kabutowari - the first one was the Kageaki when he raided his mom and the second one was Hikaru right before she became ill.When he is recalling the Hikaru one he says: 知っている。何が....怪異を成し遂げるのかwhile referencing him fucking the mom.Now the question: what has Hikaru actually done that made her reach a similar state and then fall from her illness? Has she already reached insanity before that so that's why she says that ginseigo didn't make her go insane (because she already was to begin with?)
>having a zero day in your bodyMaybe this whole cyborg thing was a mistake.
>>42925321I mean that scene is literally two fakes talking to each other about things that never actually happened to them
>>42924456>>42924553>>42924573>>42924644Alright but do I really have to sit through 30 hours of a boring SoL eroge just to get to the mech parts? It doesn't really seem worth it in terms of time - enjoyement efficiency.
>>42927476>boring SoL erogeThat's where you're wrong kiddo. Extra is great.
>>42927476>boring SoL erogeThat's where you're right kiddo. Extra is shit.
>>42927476Why do you even read eroge when 99% of games are "boring sol" and there are only so many games that pander to your tastes?
>>42927661since when did 99% mean 100%?
Black Sheep Town, Belgrade Metro, or Ihanashi Witch?
>>42927476It's unironically great for what it is with that true early 2000s style of comedy that you barely will find anywhere else.You also only need to clear 2 routes to open unlimited so it's not as long as you think if you skip side routes.It still can feel pretty repetitive and boring close to the middle so what I would recommend is to just watch it on yt like at anime here https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKCJZMviSQWFrgmLnLFhCDTSbcQsUSoLwThis guy has some incredible voicing skills and his voice suits Takeru so well that hearing his actual seiyu in Alternative felt really weird in comparison.
>>42929497Muv luv is really all are about experiencing Stockholm Syndrome induced by reading boring kusoge for 50 hours (extra+alternative+unlimited, all voices skipped) huh.
>>42929534>Stockholm Syndrome induced by reading boring kusoge for 50 hoursThat's what kamige are all about
I know this is offtopic but can one of you honorable nippon enjoyers tell me what the lady in the comic is saying?
>>42929636Kill yourself EOPscum
>>42929747Glad I'm not a balloon tit loser
>>42927476>muv luv has a 30 hours prologue to filter cancerTruly one of its kind
>>42929747i already hated propeller but what the fuck is this?
>>42930558It's an admission that there is like over 50% chance of this release being canceled all together. They probably started preorders with a hope to secure additional funding for voice work and such expensive things but failed to generate enough preorders and enough interest to actually do it.It's rather rare for eroge to be released after they get repeatedly delayed from a certain announced date and then announced to be released eventually with such ambiguous period.
>>42930878I wish, something with so ugly copypaste designs doesn't deserve to be born into this world
>>42929636No offense but DJT is up there for that buddy.
>>42929747Duke Nukem Propeller
>>42929747why keep doing this at this pointjust fucking cancel it
>>42930878Why don't they just do crowdfunding?
>Once again they will make me choose a girl literally in the second day of schoolsigh
>>42934430>Choosing.>Not letting fate decide for you by pulling a choice out of the three from a hat.Miss Fortune frowns upon you.
>>42934430Why are you playing Amakano 2 when the updated re-release is scheduled to come out in like a month?
>>429390122+ is fan disk for 2, the fuck are you smoking, retard?
>>42939132I thought it was an updated re-release with a new heroine.
>>42939141It's fandisc with new heroine
>>42939321go back to your shithole, eop-kun
has anyone here read this?https://vndb.org/v5319i love kokonoka's art but the writer seems to be specialized in writing shitty nukige so i'm kinda hesitant to start this
Just imagine how easy-mode your life must be with a sweet name like McClain Seeker.
>>42939333esl eop mtlbro...
>first character that canonically sucked mc off is the lesbiansca-GOD
>>42947673it's insane that this was treated like a h-scene and is in the scene recollection in the extra sectionsince sakutoki kept mentioning the importance of criticism, i hope that faggot takes the criticism of chapter v to heart
>>42947701Literally nothing wrong with V here, one of the best chapters among with IV and VI.
>>42947706>literally nothing wrong >the sudden nonsensical art duels >the overreliance on fantasy elements which are a complete miss, it was dumb in uta and it was even dumber here. what's worse was showing how kei dedicated his entire life into creating "himawari" only for naoya to rely on magical paint>rin pretty much zero screentime or presence, i wouldn't be surprised if thomas had more linesThe only decent things in V were the Kana circle scene and mostly her and the ED There's more to list off but I'd just end up getting pissed again and it was mostly able to finish on a high note
>>42947839He's right, not even samefagging
>>42947839How about you argue against the point I made
SCA-Ji fags are delusional
>>42943589Before Ouka he worked on Heart de Roommate and Snow which I found to be really good. From the cgs that i've seen of it it looks like it has a lot of soul, so try it
>>42949945he worked on private nurse too which was surprisingly good from what i remember, he's definitely pretty decent at emotional buildup and setting up fun character dynamics.
>>42928525Guess I'll just pick one at random.
idk if I should be asking this here but you know the first OP of Sorceress Alive ability to believe? Would any anon be kind enough to provide the full song?
Do you guys have any actual reliable download links for downloading untranslated vns? ryuugames usually has what i'm looking for, but when it doesn't i have to scramble to fucking anime-sharing and look for a post that doesn't have dead links and then spend a good few hours downloading all the parts. it's even worse when that site doesn't have what i'm looking for either. is there a magical link that i haven't found yet that you guys might have?
>>42950771Download translated versions and remove the patch .xp3Works more often than you'd think.
>>42950777...maybe i somehow phrased that the wrong way, but i'm looking for sites that host raw, untranslated visual novel download links. if the visual novel that i'm looking for has a translation you fucking bet i can find it in 5 seconds on sukebei or something.i'm asking because untranslated vns are way harder to find
>>42950771There are two magical letters: abBut you need to have friends to get in so most people here just resort to asking others for upload
>>42950931damn, what a bunch of fucking faggots
>>42950941If you know where to look you can easily find an invite by lurkings through anime discords for that one dude with wip and unlimited invites
>>42947795The explanations for the futa penis had more lines than fucking Rin
>>42950771rutracker also seems to have a lot of stuff uploaded
>>42901378swirly eyes make me hard
>>42950771ryuuabmoegesoftsukebei with japanese namesanime sharing downloading from some russian weird filehosting site(once i spent 2 weeks downloading one)
Sasuga EGS>>42909910That can't be AI art. Her facial expression has too much humanity. This >>42915312 >>42922157 is AI art.>>42929747Worse than Marmalade's delays and that game at least looked good. This one will flop no matter what. propeller's Death March lol
>>42951473I don't think she's AI but the guy on her left might be. Just kinda looks AI to me.
>>42951473Are you retards just going to call anything you don't like ai from now on?
>>42951613Shut up, bot.
thanks I had no idea what this was
Any VNs where the moral is "actually, revenge good"?
>>42952321Hentai prison, shockingly.They have a whole discussion about how stories where MC is trying to get revenge on someone then stops at the last minute and lets them go are stupid.
>>42952351What the fuck are you talking about
ok please just tell me when nukitashi gets good i cannot take this boring ass story anymore
>>42952740Once you get to OP 2.
>>42952753Are you alright in the head, dude? I genuinely don't understand the point you're trying to get across here.
>>42952747im way past op 2 thoughit just feels like im still in the "how are we gonna get home" loop, basically nothing has happened
>>42952894Are you actually in one of the routes? Which one?
>>42953149maybe? i was choosing the gyaru girls' choices so far since i was told she was the first route to do
>>42953342You can figure out if you're a route by going to the scene selection screen on the title menu - it'll just tell you. Yes, you should do Nanase's route first. Unfortunately, it's also the worst route and suffers from being intended to be played first for a number of reasons, but Nanase is cute at least.
>>42952805Just ignore and don't give him attention.
I don't even remember why people liked Propeller in the first place. That's the absolute state they're in.
Let us all be more like /jav/ friends.
Anon was right, the Red Cherish fandisc really is better than the original game. Maybe it's because they only focused on one story and didn't have to shove in other routes in there, but overall it was definitely better written and more well thought out. The final showdown was pretty hype and better than anything in the original in my opinion. I'm just a sucker for the good old cliche of both sides shouting life philosophies at each other while beating each other up with their fists. Sue me. Also, it's nice to get some good old イチャイチャ from an already established couple straight from the beginning. You don't always get that in this medium although it makes you kind of jealous as a reader.
>>42954434the last decent game they released was evolimit which was well over a decade agotheir talent has hit a mixture of washed up or straight up leaving their company im sure this game would have sucked like their recent ones
>>42954835Unica was my least favorite of the original 3 heroines, but the game absolutely improves from having one route and solo focus on her and its to the benefit of everyone in the cast. The final fight was the best part of both VNs and has a bunch of great moments for every single character. And it actually has a well-done theme that is communicated and examined in multiple ways throughout the VN and directly plays a role in the climax as the characters both physically fight and argue about their respective philosophies, in a way that actually works and improves the story, which is shockingly rare.The one kinda weird part at the end is that Yukimitsu essentially winds up in a weird Soma nightmare situation where his clone pretends to be someone else and goes off with Melch into the sunset, doomed to never see any of his friends or lover again, all so Real Yukimitsu can have a happy ending. That's pretty fucked up. Just a very well done VN overall and I'm very interested to see what they do next. Proof that you can have a great chuunige in a short-medium length package without having it be 80 hours long.
>>42956297>Proof that you can have a great chuunige in a short-medium length package without having it be 80 hours long.depends on how large your cast is, you're going to want some routes to adequately explore your charactersbut of course linear stories and dare i say, the ladder structure are preferable in those types of stories
So basically medium length stories are the sweet spot for a good VN by anon standards?
>>42956944No, but if you're a long story you'd better deserve it and most long stories don't.
>>42956944short-medium content is literally mcdonalds tier.
>>42957038sounds good, mcdonalds is fucking awesome
Can you guess who's the boy?
>>42957262Obviously the middle one with the flap over his crotch + the smallest tits. Holy shit, Ensemble's made 29 games?
>>42957262the middle but the hips on that "boy" are insaneman trap protagonists just feel so wasteful
>>42957286>>42957293>>42957262Guys, there is no boy, stop with your transphobic bs, they all cute girls.
>>42957331Japs don't get it, you are no jap, so please use non-jap gender paradigm.
>>42957350But in most Ensemble games the trap identifies as a boy but is forced by plot shenanigan to disguise themselves as a girl and stops as soon as they're able to.
>>42957262I look like this
>>42954471>blacked americanshit discussionhell no
>>42952740>>42910283please don't use the same bait more than once in the same thread
>>42956944Most of my favorite VNs are the super long ones, but most writers/developers shouldn't be trying to pull that off.
>>42956297Unica was always my favorite because she's literally me (hacker, hikikomori, etc.). Des is cute, so she's my #2. Rouge was the one I always found kind of plain. Not terrible, but not really my preferred variation of お嬢さん.The ending was definitely kind of weird. I mean it makes sense. You can't help but feel sorry for Melch after all that. But cloning yourself was not the solution I was expecting. I figured she'd just have to learn to cope, but everyone pretty much admitted she was too weak and still needed something to lean on. A bit of a strange direction to go in, but well it's not like Red Cherish is some kind of manifesto against codependence (the opposite if anything).
>>42956944Long can be fine for plotge if it's well paced but it's insane to have 40 hours of SoL or something similar, most books can tell a story just fine in the 200-300 pages range so I don't see why eroge insists on having these ridiculous lenghts as if they somehow needed that length to develop the characters or set up an interesting story.
>>42968360Just read faster lmao
>>42968360Most long eroge have LOGH sized casts.
>>42968163>she's literally me (hacker, hikikomori, etc.)You aren't a cute girl
>>42968588Stfu with your transphobic bs
>>42968478Speed reading fiction as if you were consuming trash food is a very shallow way to experience art and it's a bad habit to watch out for rather than something you would want to do.
>>42968360Nips prefer quantity over quality
>>42968588The evil hacker known as 4chan is definitely a cute girl.
>>42966421That hasn't been a thing for several weeks now. It's all about Indian larping.
>>42968733lolno. The ones that are remembered and talked about are always the same 10-20 titles.
>>42968360Clannad is 100 hours of SoL and is perhaps the best thing i've readSeems like a personal problem
>>42968644>ree theyre too long>ree speedreading badOk schizo
>>42901061where can i find strategy guides for untranslated vns?im playing shizuku 1996 and can't find anything in any site
>>42971076try this for older vnshttp://sagaoz.net/foolmaker/game.html
Japanese studios tried to emulate Key's success with +100 hour long eroge of the 2000's. That led to many failures in sales and studio closures, until producers and directors discovered that the public preferred shorter works in general, which also have less economic risk to make.
>>42971179>until producers and directors discovered that the public preferred shorter works in generalcitation neededYou can only sell short works as low price cheap shit. To sell full price VN you need at least 2MB of text now, which wasn't the case in 2000s.
>>42971218Waffle in case point. Check out rants from his writer/producer Kagami about that problem.
>>42971272>Check out rants from his writer/producer Kagami about that problem.He later said that he was mistaken>※2016年の時点では自分の推論や分析に妥当性があると考えていましたが、2020年5月に消費者白書などを調べた結果、妥当性が弱いこと、つまり、推論や分析に誤りがあることが判明しました。
>>42971076>shizuku 1996You really don't need a guide for this one. Literally just do the girls routes in the order they appear in the game. Whatever you do, make sure Ruriko is last.
>>42971395>follow up articleI suppose that's a fair correction to make. For a same reason, some people leave a hobby but other people join.Even if he kind of tried to quantified people leaving because of the long length, it would need to be compared with the amount of people joining the medium because they are precisely looking for long length works.So you cannot declare long length as a reason for the shrinkage of the genre, without that point clarified before.When you take a general outlook at the leisure scene, with soshage, doujin jrpgs and light novels gaining a bigger part of the market, and less people owning PCs, who knows what effect does length have at all if any.
What are the best PC-98 games? I love the art style the games have, but I know know of things like YUNO and EVE
how the fuck do i make it over the reading vn in jap beginner hurdle?? i’m reading stuff i want to read, it’s short, it’s relatively easy but my reading speed is like 2-4k/h even after a week of doing this daily for min 1h. when does it get better bros, i want to be like you guys and read for hours and whatever i want
>>42973532>week daily for 1hidk but i read daily for 10 hours for months and it's pretty comfy compared to the start
>>42925349It's been a while since I read Muramasa but the implication here is that's when Hikaru became certain that Kageaki is her real father and it drove her into a corner. As for why she (and Kageaki) can do it, there's no clear explanation but I think it's Konjin's influence (like with Yagyuu and his people). A lot of legends about Konjin in Wolf's research paper actually match Hikaru so there is that.
>>42973555This. Read more and it eventually gets better.
>>42969696Dude from your screenshot sounds like a pretentious salty faggot with too much free time, you should probably tell him to kill himself.