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Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, Haworthia, and all other 07th Expansion works.

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Erika was too spicy...
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This is the real thread
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>>40771639
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>>40774897
I-Is it really the end of an era?
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>>40774944
Tamaki so boring.
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>>40774944
She's omnivorous.
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About time. Question Anon here,
What was your reaction to Satoko telling Rika all about how she fucked over the current loop before introducing her to knife kun to isekai her to the next loop?
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>>40775152
Based!
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Maybe the schizo will take a liking to /kizuna/ and stay there.
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>that pose
Is it worth it to get into Ciconia? Should I at least wait for phase 2?
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>>40775474
Yeah just wait, it'll come out soon
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>>40775567
How soon, early 2023?
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>>40775586
Soon, you'll see. Just wait
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>>40775120
I don't speak moon runes. TL it.
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>>40775134
>Yasu considering suicide by just keeping walking into the ocean but doesn’t follow through and gets shouted at by Natsuhi for having wet trousers.
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>>40776143
>gets shouted at by Natsuhi for having wet trousers
That's what happens when you bitch out. In my country you get heavily fined for any suicide attempt, imagine surviving slitting your throat only to owe like $1.2k to the government plus medical bills on top of that because our healthcare doesn't cover self-inflicted wounds. You're essentially punished for being too incompetent to kill yourself right.
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>>40776256
are you living in shitmerica?
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>>40776318
>america
>any kind of free healthcare
I live in Europe.
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>>40775988
>>40776022
>>40776039
Sweaty aunt sex
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>>40775120
I was waiting for that all along. It was bizarre to me that Rika's amnesia before death was never really used by Satoko for anything. Her plans never really seemed to count on Rika not remembering stuff right before her death in the anime, where some kind of teasing like that would have been even more expected.
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>>40775227
I want to eat biscuits with Eua
>>40775988
Holy cute
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rena knows
do you?
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>>40775120
About time. Anon here, question,*
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>>40775120
About time. Questioner anon here,*
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Rends knows how bad she smells. Do you?
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>>40777416
stop playing in a garbage dump
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Rena likes to taste the things she finds in there. Rena does not believe in germ theory. Rena likes junk.
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God I hate Amanda so much.
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>>40776880
I wonder...
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Don't care, I'll continue to kiss Rena on her lips and I'll savor every second of it.
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>>40778050
>Amanda
Are you talking about Amanda Lee? I kinda like her out-of-breath singing voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy-nNul986k
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>>40778507
Can you really love a smelly girl? I wonder... wonder.
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>>40778175
rena doesn't like that image
delete it.
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>>40778986
What kind of images does Rena like?
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>>40779011
rena likes images that are cute and not weird
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Rena can't take it anymore, Rena needs to fuck Rena's little sister again
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>>40779229
no.
i know your adress.
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>>40779011
Hello Kitty
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>>40779252
i wonder if this is a test
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>>40779250
Rena is more than happy you to join us.
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>>40776481
ushiromiya aunts are the best
all the little girls on the island just cannot compete with their mature beauty
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>>40778928
Depends. How many showers does Rena take a week?
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>>40779351
Daily! Sometimes even twice a day! Nevertheless Rena is a very active girl who dumpster dives every couple of days.
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How good/bad is this?
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Why Rika exists? to make me feel powerful?
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Why Rika exists? to make me hard as a rock?
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I like butts.
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>>40779928
good for you
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>>40779843
>>40779870
>Why Rika exists?
To live in the shadow of cutetoko.
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The audacity of this brat...!
Eua and Satoko's relationship in Meguri is so much better. Eua's characterization itself is also much more in line with Featherine. These witches work well together.
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>>40780012
>>40780164
Stop breathing, shtittiest poster alive.
Cutekah cutekah
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>>40780164
Eua didn't even have a character in Sotsu.
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>>40780174
shut up
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We don't care about shitoko's shadow because we know that rika is going to put a show over shitoko and conceal her existence.

Say thanks Rika
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>>40780194
hang yourself retarded meguriturd
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>>40780174
know your place
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>>40779928
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>>40780283
Disgusting.
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>>40780309
>he doesn't want to kiss feminine boyass
Are you even an otaku?
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>>40780438
Oh ho ho ho ho! The incompetence of Rika knows no bounds, she will obviously die from the gut wound thus making our fight a draw. When I go for the kill my prey dies!
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Rion Sonozaki
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>>40779349
Rosa's abusive-but-desperate pussy must be godly.
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朋友是一个坚韧不拔的纪录片在香港这座城市的社区足点钱和的罗斯福公室瑞秋
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>>40780796
He had one job... how could Battler fail his aunt and cousin like that? They're a package deal.
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>>40780795
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>>40780796
Why do you like loose pussy
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>>40780947
This. If Rosa was at least flat I wouldn't care what kind of cave entrance she had between her legs but she has tits.
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>>40774878
I love my Wife Tamurahime
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>>40780796
must be shit to live with since men keep leaving her.
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>wake up in Umi
>bump into Rosa
>ask her out
>get introduced to Maria
>she starts calling you onii-chan
>Rosa seems to go soft on Maria now that she's no longer a loser femcel
>everything's great until: "D-Darling? The Ushiromiya family conference is next month, I'm thinking of bringing you along.... you know, as my fiancé. One way or another we need to secure roughly 300 million by the end of the year."
What do?
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>>40780466
>>40780800
triple kill yourself
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>>40781143
>>40780800
samefag schizo lmao
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>>40781109
save all of the cousins and abandon all adults to fate
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>>40781269
Would you betray Rosa just like that? Cold.
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lol you guys were right. I decided to check the discord and sure enough it was filled to the brim with racebait and wojakshit. Never coming back there.
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>>40781320
Why the slander?
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>>40781357
Racefags get the rope.
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>>40781177
Go back to discord, dbsassy
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>>40781398
How m any IPs do you have schizobaka? I'm getting real tired of your shit.
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>>40781109
if i'm just waking up in umi i already have the epitaph solution, so i can pretend to solve it quickly before dinner, try to be amicable with yasu while i'm there to talk her down from doing anything stupid whilst claiming our newfound riches, throw the guns in the ocean so no one can do anything stupid with them, and try to swerve away any conversation about the epitaph that comes up for the rest of the time there to avoid anyone else figuring it out
if someone else does i'll have to do some negotiation for shares, which hopefully won't be as fraught with danger since i've already thrown away the quick and easy method of avoiding awkward conversations - so long as we get the money rosa needs then all is good, any extra is a bonus in this situation
share the money freely with rosa once we're home free, and if rosa implies even slightly that she's thinking about her ex past giving him the money for the loan i get the fuck out of there with some of the dosh i've kept aside which would otherwise be used for emergencies
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>>40781423
>stats stats stats
What are you on about you fucking autistic moron? Go back to discord.
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>>40781435
>playing dumb
kys retard
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>>40781441
Go back posting your racebait shit on discord, dbsassy
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pixiv can suck my dick, anything worth a shit on that site it's either deleted or the ID does not exist
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shitobros.. im sick..
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>>40781568
die
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>>40781567
For those of us who can't into moon.
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did i hit your precious little microscopic nerve?
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>>40781609
pls don't die i was kidding & i feel bad now
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LMAO ROFL LEL LOL WEW KEK AYYYY LOLE LELE JEJ WWWWWWWWWWWWW LOLLE
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>>40781642
i was serious every time i tell people to kys even on the internet i start feekinbg bad about it :(
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>>40781472
sex
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>>40781700
with me now
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>>40781682
well you're a sociopath and I have feelings sooooo
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... it's time to die then..

k
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>>40781713
are you rika
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>>40781730
DONT!!!
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>>40781742
i am 666
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You die though because i am the embodiment of evil, for Rika, and Rika is not evil she's a kind soul. A soul worthy to be sacrificed for. Die now
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Well, the sunflower lady wants me to go to evil bed so going to evil bed. Good night!
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>>40781598
Thanks anon, I was looking for the english version but couldn't find it.
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>>40781320
>discord full of glowniggers and shitposters
why so surprised?
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does anyone know what software ryukishi used to make the higurashi/umineko sprites
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this particular satokofag is a satorika and satokei fag? And a shitposter. could be possible..
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>>40781320
discord sucks. it's icky. i hate discord. rika is better
i love higurashi!
i love rika!
wonderful perfect rika-chama!
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>>40782264
Thank you for saying "rika is better"
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story time!
name of the story: Rika is better
Let's begin!
Akasaka: "man i should've married rika instead :( bummer"
The end
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>>40782342
akasaka would never say that, how dare
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Akasaka: "Deep down inside i really loved Rika........."
The audience: "AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
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>>40782040
I assume paint tool sai
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>>40782423
sai wasn't around at the time I think
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What was Ryukishi thinking when he made Hou?
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There was a screenshot of his desktop with a Lucifer wallpaper where he was shown editing the sprite for Erika I believe. I don't remember what program he was using.
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>>40782666
This is a screenshot I found and he did use Photoshop, but I wonder what else.
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>>40782677
Oh, there we go. It wasn't lucifer, it was asmodeus.
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>>40780327
That's how you contract HS.
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ryukushi is masterful at making you think he's going to drop the ball and do something retarded that ruins the game but then saving it at the last moment with something epic
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>>40782924
what are some examples?
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>>40782941
every time he decides its time to be overly edgy and go grossly too far with some cruel concept before he gets too bored and tosses it aside to get back to the real plot
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>>40781320
Fake news
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> bases his personality into marrying his maid
> dies a virgin
> doesn't even get to see her naked
> she dumps him for his cousin at literally mere hours after he died
> he gets a clone of his gf in the afterlife to use as a onahole, so its fine, i guess
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>>40783306
george's biggest failure was settling for a maid, he assumed no one else would want him since he was cringeworthy as a kid instead of broadening his horizons and looking further afield
setling for shannon was never going to end well for him, even if she wasn't a massive schizo who'd dump him after seeing the first glimpse of red hair
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>>40783332
>f broadening his horizons and looking further afield
Its Japan in 1986. There is no horizons.
Said this, the worst part is that George never saw the situation as settling. If anything, Shannon was the one settling with George (which makes sense, she is the actual Ushiromiya ruler).
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D-D-D-DID THEY JUST HAVE SEXX???? D_D
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>>40783409
Congratulations to everyone that had sex
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>>40782924
>ryukushi is masterful at making you think he's going to drop the ball and do something retarded that ruins the game
he sure is
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>>40783414
It's nothing special, stop glorifying sluts.
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Umineko taught me to treat woman as the inferior beings as they are.
Now I have a amazing wife and we're waiting for our child.
It works!!
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>>40783487
Featherine calls her a virgin later though so it evens out
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>>40783523
Male virginity means that you are worthless.
Female virginity means that you are not a whore. Ange could simply tell Amakusa to fuck her and that would happen, but she doesn't because she has self control
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>>40783537
Female virginity above a certain age is quite a red flag nowadays
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>>40783537
male virginity? no one literally cares anymore
female virginity? doesn't exist
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>Castiglioni
The deepest lore...
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>>40784155
Butler's cousin Kinzo when.
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>>40784233
Kin Zo, member of the chinese mafia and Butler's secret half brother.
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George's cuck hole really is deep.
He really did all of this shit for a girl that continued to chase for his cousin in the afterlife.
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>>40784282
>t. didn't understand umineko
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>>40784282
what did she mean by this?
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>>40784354
yasu fantasizing about having a bf, pathetic
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>>40784354
>>40784394
She and George truly deserved each other.
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>it's another 'why can't I be a chad like george' coping hour
Quite pathetic.
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>>40784507
she's looking a lil' bleak.
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>>40784424
Hey George, I found your girlfriend, she is a good cosplayer. Why she is so close to your cousin tho?
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https://twitter.com/tomboyist/status/1555695598632062976/photo/1
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>>40784537
>he doesn't realize that Beatrice, Kanon and Shannon are separate beings in the golden land
Holy reddit, is this what this general has come to? Your NTR fantasies are warping your perception of Umineko, reread it or gtfo.
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>>40784552
I hate this dude and his ugly ass bimbo art.
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>>40784579
ange is a disgusting bimbo whore so it fits
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>>40784567
>in the golden land
Saying that Sayo got cloned and the clones went to the other cousins doesn't make George look less pathetic
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>>40784585
Bro your entire argument consists of George getting cucked because Battler got with Beatrice in the golden land, but fact is that Yasu decided to spend the very last day she had in this world with George instead of Jessica or Battler, and he was the one she won the love duel for.
Yasu had no lingering emotions for Battler anymore by the time the disaster happened on Rokkenjima; George won her over and completely enthralled her.
It's time to give up Battlercuck, your selfinsert will forever remain a virgin in a wheelchair with a malfunctioning penis.
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>>40784600
Battlercucks, it's over ..... George won.
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not this shit again
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>>40784685
Shannon you messy SLUT
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Wow, I can't believe that despite all the lovey-dovey stuff she said to Battler, Beatrice's human form still prefers George over him. How humiliating.
While Battler lives his life as a cripple, hidden away by some crazy author, George gets to sex both Shannon and Beatrice every day in the Golden Land.
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so if bernkastel (and lambda too) was planned to have only minor role in the story, until ryukishi changed the plot, then would have been the main villain in ep8? just the goats?
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>>40784710
The rumors are true, Yasu is a filthy two-timing slut...
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>>40784705
How can you say that when Kanon is addicted to cock, it's barely comparable
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>>40784710
see reversing it doesn't make it sound more right
plus unlike george, battler has options - dude can just go fuck erika or whatever instead
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>>40784726
It's over... George won.
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Anons please, we'll split the difference and fuck both Battler and Joji.
Everyone wins!
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>>40784741
>FemBattler...
Umineko would be so much better if everyone was swapped
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>>40784769
I agree
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>>40784769
>femKinzo
I couldn't care less for an old woman lusting after her youthful romance.
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>>40784741
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>>40784808
On the other hand, this means we have to have a scene were FemBattler talks about Kanon's girthy dick and goes to grab it
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>>40784808
Roseo really should have beat the shit out of Joseph.
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>>40784837
Battler is gross crossdressing but Keiichi is fuckable.
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>>40784828
Trapped in Kuwadorian with femKinzo...
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>>40784734
Not really. Mentioning the Golden Land is pointless, its literally a Cope Land. A mechanism created to lessen the pain of reality.
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Hinamizawa...
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umikeks i am on ep. 5 and wondering why everyone is acting so out of character on the game board? Is it because Lambda's game is out of character by nature, or is ryukishi's writing just in the shitter? why would beatrice and especially kinzo work so hard to help natsuhi? shouldn't beatrice be entitled to support bernBattler if anyone, since he found the gold?
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>>40785169
>beatrice
it's not technically the same beatrice. if that doesn't make sense to you, get used to it
>ryukishi's writing just in the shitter?
always has been
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>>40784713
Maybe it'd have been Virgilius, depending on how early those plans were changed, or even Will. R07 has talked about how the only reason he didn't have a "Black Will" facing Battler in episode 8 was because it was already too big to fit that plotline there.
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I love my wife Tamurahime
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>>40785400
>depending on how early those plans were changed
apparently since ep3 because virgilia essentially took her role as the mentor/supporter of battler
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Mascot Rena is cuter than nuRena
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Why people insults George so much? I thought he was cool
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>>40785654
Every single scene he's in sucks.
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>>40785654
He wears a suit the color of puke and mustard, at least Battler has on a cream-colored suit for the weather.
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>>40783523
proof?
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I met a girl that genuinely tricks herself to believe that her mother has a double personality when she was just abusive.
Maria IRL?
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>>40785929
Anon how socially retarded do you have to be to see a case of real life abuse and think "oh it's just like my visual novels"
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>>40785977
Enough to post here.
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>>40781109
I would save them all
And tell Kyrie the truth
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>>40784280
Qin Zho
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>>40781109
Go to the Conference, solve the epitaph by myself. Tell Sayo to not say anything.
Privately talk to Krauss, offer to pay him everything and divide the money between Rosa and Krauss. Fuck Kyrie and Eva.
Also give a laxant to Maria before the conference as a worst case scenario.
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>>40781109
Sidenote, but I am unironically thinking on trying to date single mothers. They're already fertile so they can give me a new offpring and I could manage the previous one (and usually get a helper to take care of my offspring)
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>>40785144
feet too small...
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urge to make an italian-tier manifesto rising
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Question Anon here,
rate all the Satoko faces in this latest chapter from zero to ten
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did someone say femBattler?
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>>40786352
This means that the Ushiromiya family are now all DILFs, right?
Lol Natsuhi is unable to cum good seed
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Heh heh heh
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>>40786352
Yes, actually.
>>>/tg/47529842
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>>40786371
This also means Hideyoshi is the thickest bitch you could possible desire, a glorious catbox
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>>40786127
Imagine raising another man's child kek couldn't be me
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>>40786639
Male Jessica: What did your dad see in your mom?
Fem George: Its love.
Fem Battler: Have you seen her ass? Not everyone manage to get fat in the right places, but George's mom did it. I'm so envious!!!
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>>40784713
Episode three would have introduced Virgillius and B.Battler, who would probably go on to be pretty major characters as they represent the mystery counterpart to Beatrice.
Probably would have made the whole "mystery vs magic" conflict make more sense if the mystery side had more assholes. "A witch did it" starts looking a lot more palatable when the alternative is "you personally tortured your entire family to death for fun".
I think we'd have gotten more Kanon too, since he's B.Battlers' lackey in the side story. That would have been nice.
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>>40775227
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>>40785169
>why everyone is acting so out of character on the game board?
It's because it's Lambda's game. You'll see when you move on to other episodes with other authors.
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>>40784725
At least Kanon makes sure to clean it all up.
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https://youtu.be/s17AOzl52R8
This is how goats should have been handled by Battler during ep8
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>>40787766
are you living in an asean country?
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>>40785654
Jealous incels can't handle the George kino.
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>>40788272
He looks like a sterotypical Asian.
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>>40787327
>if the mystery side had more assholes
Bern and Erika aren't the ultimate mystery tards tho?
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>>40784507
Sexotoko and Sexonyuu.
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>>40788281
That’s just anime friendly George that this is using.
The original sprite gives more of the behemoth incel reality.
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>>40788326
Bern doesn’t really care.
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mion was never so cold to Rika. no matter what
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>>40784808
That FemBattler is pure sex.
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>>40788326
Yeah you've got Bern and Erika, but they're equivalent to Lambda and Virgilia, no B.Battler to match up with Beatrice.
Would have dovetailed nicely into the "man from 19 years ago" implying Battler was the double, not yasu, though Virgilius could have also played that role unlike Erika.
And introducing Erika/Virgilius in episode 3 is a lot different fro episode 5, I'd expect them to play "nice" for a lot longer.
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>>40785497
>apparently since ep3 because virgilia essentially took her role as the mentor/supporter of battler
But Bern initially was supposed to stay mostly a tea party character. In her initial role, she wouldn't have as much presence as Virgilia did.
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>>40789159
But Virgilia is Beatrice's piece, Virgilius/Erika is Bern's. SO Battler's mentor character would be directly under Bern's control. That provides a lot more of a connection between her and Battler.
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contemplating about Rika.
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>>40789334
Dropping my guard and going to sleep, completely unaware that Rika is about to attack me.
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>>40789257
Virgilius was supposed to be a rival like Erika, not a mentor. He'd obscure the truth even more by making stupid theories that warp the reality of the gameboards.

That's why episode 3 got completely rewritten. There would be no tutorial about what can be ignored and what can be trusted. Everything was going to be even more confusing and Battler just more desperate, but since the readers couldn't keep up with episode 2, that initial story plan got dumped.
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>>40787097
i'm not sure if fem george would be cute or not
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>>40789532
Also, note that although he dresses like a detective he has the golden wing on him, hinting at a Ushiromiya or Beatrice connection.
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>>40789384
Rika with a huge blush attacking your back naked....
man if only ryu the rikahater did a rika blush.. he still can drop the bomb if he wants.. it all depends on him and his rika meter love..
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>>40789619
>hinting at a Ushiromiya or Beatrice connection
huh?
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>>40789787
I just mean that sometimes you get the golden wing even for purely fantasy characters when they're tied to Beatrice.
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>>40789872
Who do you think Virigilius was connected to?
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OHNONONO BATTLERBROS, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!
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>>40789902
I don't know, I'm just saying that it could go either way based on the little material we have about him.
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>>40789922
the same interview also says that george hiding the letter is a valid possibility
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Ryukishi already confirmed George ate the letter.
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aaahh... uuu, uuuuurrrrrgggg, hnnnnnn o-owwww ow oww *gurgle* rrrRUUUAGH *sploosh* aaaaaAH AAAH HURRP UUUUURRP FLOOOUGHH *splat* aa, haaa... haaaa. haaaa... owwwwwww... *mmmmmmm* aaah AAAAAAUGH SLLOAUGH WAAUGH OUGH *splatters*
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>>40790007
Ryukishi says that about fucking anything
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>>40789922
Blue truth time:
Is Ryukishi implying he knows the pain of a partner wanting children when he can't have them?
The BT lore DEEPENS.

Ryukishi, a man, cannot have children. Yet he fell in love with BT who wanted to be a father. Depressed by the fact that he could never give his love the children he desired, he wrote Yasu and Umineko.
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umineko jav
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I have a big pecker and I'm proud.
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>>40790197
No
>>40790222
No
Retards go the hell away
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>>40790063
No
>>40790046
No
>>40790034
NO
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>>40790312
I'm horny and I need to do something about it
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>>40790325
Yes, yes, YES
All three of those posts are extremely accurate.
George ate the letter. George is fat. Typical Ange.
You just don’t have love so you can’t see.
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The gold .... will be mine!
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>>40790312
I want to stretch out all the /07/th sissies with my pecker.
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>>40790197
STAR-447 Hairy Ginger Ange Pussy First Time CREAMPIE
YASU-671 I Was Raped By GRANDFATHER and FATHER
IPTD-813 Cousin Jessica Beautiful Wife Get Fucked By Cooking Star Gohda
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>>40790459
My pecker is piercing my pants as I read.
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>>40790459
>>40790481
>>40790409
>>40790393
Kill yourselves 3dpdnigger stay out of wtc forever
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>>40779703
Then I fail to see a problem in being with Rena. Who knows? Maybe we could dumpster dive and after that take showers together! Living with Rena must be so fun!
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>>40790572
Small pecker energy post.
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>>40790756
Go away smegma sniffer.
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>>40790783
Tiny tiny tiny pecker!
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>>40790795
Tiny pecker from outer space
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>>40789532
EP2 was not that bad. Do people actually follow Battler's trust in his family and servants?
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>>40790007
>BATTLER YOU'RE BAD MAN
Numale Japs are seething over charismatic men.
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>>40789532
Yeah but he'd have been WAY more helpful since he'd directly show fake mystery scenes just like Beatrice showed fake magic scenes. That'd be the vital clue that even the "normal" scenes weren't necessarily real.
Also
>Were they a boy? A girl?
So he'd literally be inverse Beatrice from episode 2 and we'd get an almost or entirely mystery bottle.
>Will
I wonder if it's just a coincidence or if originally he had Will's role as well...
>Natsuhi's illegitimate child
Definite red herring, but would make Erika's hateboner way more believable and impactful. Obviously the idea is he claims to be Natsuhi's child to imply infidelity, and could probably use the red truth to prove it, but in reality he was Kinzo's and Natsuhi was only his mother for a few hours.
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>>40790933
>Battler
>Charismatic
Kek
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>>40789922
>>40790007
Battler did send a letter, and it was receieved and even read, but it was to Jessica, not her imaginary friend Shannon.
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>>40790933
>cocky, flirtatious boys with no sense of responsibility
So this is what zoomers consider charismatic these days...
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>>40791064
Be George. See letter.
*munch*
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>>40790892
Most people at the time saw no reason to question the magic scenes. Rather than trying to question the narrative, the only alternative most people saw was trying to explain them, which led to stuff like Rokkenjima syndrome theories or basically sci-fi tech disguised as magic to explain the magic stuff. People were going WAY off track from R07's intention, which is why changing Episode 3 was seen as necessary.
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>>40790411
How does one get half as many bitches as this guy?
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>>40784741
>>40784837
I came here to laugh at you, Battler.
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>>40791456
47 please, he's been through enough...
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Rika is gothic?
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>>40791407
Kinzo's genes.
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>>40791741
kys
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Everyone was OOC in shitsugou and you're the blame for it
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>>40791839
But I didn't do anything.
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>>40791839
But I'm not Ryukishi
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Guys I started this thread out of selfishness, I just wanted one last /07/th but now I realize that it was a mistake. Please accept your death with dignity, please become /kizuna/ for the greater good of /jp/. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it.
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>>40792060
dumbass
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>>40791979
adopting cornelia and leaving the other 2 in the rain!
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kill yourself
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when thread in /h/ with abridged-satoko fanbox leaks?
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death to smurf faggot
death to abridged-shitoko faggot
death to any westerner faggot
death to me

a toast to the death
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>>40792102
RIP rikaschizo, I guess I didn't hate rika so much...
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>>40792060
just talk about japanese mystery novels in these threads if you're that desperate. umineko name-drops a couple of them so I think it's fair game.
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>>40792060
But why the name Kizuna
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Perfect
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>>40792154
Dunno. I can't moonspeak.
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>>40792173
Kizuna means bonds!
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You will stop your continuous charade
>>40792154
>>40792176
trying venture into shitposter's mind? what are you expecting from a cancer plague who has no propose at all. also he's using shitoko for his personal vendetta
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Satoko (real)
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>>40792176
lmao what a faggot OP
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>>40792183
>flat
Reminder that 11-12 years old Satoko had bigger titties than an average Japanese woman.
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You cancer shall be ingrate
samefagging with two different devices
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I want my sunflower to stroke my hair and whisper in my ear as I fall asleep.
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No one cares about your *un*realism you still to be pedo in denial
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>>40792208
Flat and chubby hands, her existence must be suffering
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>>40792215
>samefagging with two different devices
Ara! Not everyone's a devious sociopath such as yourself, Schizo-san.
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Ryukishi (real)
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https://mangadex.org/chapter/8102c14f-8967-4310-908d-892641f3d733
New meguri
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>>40792256
>Ywn be embraced by Satoko as she reveals her true colours as she stabs you to death.
Fate is cruel
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rascal shall be diminished when the light engulfs the darkness
the rascal being hypocritical again as if he's incapable of shitting on his bed
rascal loves real crap and he's not loyal to his the devil queen he's leeching off
rascal wants to talk about 3dpd
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Love Satoko
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>>40792276
I only do it because it offends you, I don't actually follow cosplayers.
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>>40792285
rika is so cute when she's trying to think
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N56qGBx4yCE
Why do professional adults love doing the most embarrassing things ever, is it a compulsion of Japanese culture to humiliate yourself in front of an audience?
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rascal wants to talk about real people and criticize their appearance. this cancer shall be ended with his pathetic little life that he's missing already

i guess that's what social parasites live of.
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We know Rika is Satoko's woman. We know she has been completely dominated by Satoko: physically, mentally and spiritually.
They had no choice but to marry. Still, one question remains: will Oyashiro-sama grant them magic yuri babies?
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extremely doubt
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>>40792305
An extremely wide Rika
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>>40792301
>magic yuri babies
Huh?! I'll have you know that Satoko's manhood i-is nearly 7 inches!
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>>40779973
UWAAAAAAA SEEEEEEEX
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>>40792301
with certainty
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The rascal/or femgirl shall be lethally injected
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>>40792301
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>>40792350
>threatens me again
Ara ara, someone needs another forced breeding this evening!
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my eyes turned red after playing 10 hours non-stop video games
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Day 383 of praying for RGD adaptation.
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>>40792499
Get a life.
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>>40792254
>Receding hairline
>Dyes it orange
Jesus Reyukishi have some shame
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>>40792183
Satoko (real) and her girlfriend
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>>40792583
please stop
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>bratty character becomes the hottest
Why do this Ryukishi?
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>>40792583
Satoko (real)
Rika (fat)
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>>40792254
>Ryukishi is a fatass by Jap standards
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>>40792593
>becomes
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>>40792593
Tomato sameface.
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>>40792254
Why is Ushiromiya George like this?
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>>40792593
>lil' Satoko's erotic budding chest and cracking puberty voice wasn't the hottest thing in Higurashi
kys
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>>40792602
This is real life anon, the fat bastard gets the Rena cosplayer in the end
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>>40792583
>>40792597
>>40792644
Why shitokofag only fagging over 3dpd shitoko
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>>40792682
that's not me he's an embarrassment >>40792583
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>>40792154
The word has a lot of ties to 07th Expansion.
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>>40792713
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>>40792713
Satoko is going through a schizo arc?
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>>40792537
I'm taking yours.
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>>40792052
Are you sure?
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>>40792713
i'm not going to repeat my rant from last time but know that being able to understand it has only made it worse
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>>40792724
Try me.
>>40792729
Ryukishi's a redditor.
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i knew it as soon as >>40792060 arrived shit went into garbage
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>>40792737
Why? Satoko upgraded from being a simple schizo to a schizo with a god complex.
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>>40792719
yes i am guilty motherfucker i am Death
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>>40792750
Satoko is keeping /07/th alive.
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>>40792767
one guy? maybe but i can do the same with rika
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>>40792775
Good, aibou.
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>>40792751
yes and i'm sick of seeing schizo satoko and all the things she does, giving her a god complex doesn't make her better unless you enjoy her doing even more crazy faces and being all happy in ill-fitting situations which i don't
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>>40792798
Battlerbro, do you also hate Rena, Takano and Shion?
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>>40792775
Finally Rika has a respectable adult chest.
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>>40792824
Reiwa Rika has breasts somehow.
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>>40792852
the bitch just exploded like a chest burster hanyu came out of her.
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>>40791741
I wouldn't be so sure about it, tiny pecker.
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>>40792909
shitoko the bitch will die soon
>>40792824
>>40792923
why rikafag using and abusing rika's design? shut up shitoko

can you kill yourself shitokonigger?
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>>40792940
>why rikafag using and abusing rika's design? shut up shitoko
Because I like Rika. I like Rika and love Satoko.
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nakadashi-hen
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>>40793004
huehuehuehue
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>>40792909
>the bitch
why you talk shit about rika all the time CUNT SIHOTKO A CUNT
>burster hanyu came out of her
Not funny. i dont see myself laughing
>>40792958
Sure bud you love her. i hate shitoko and you
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>>40793004
Who dies in this one and from what causes?
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>>40782657
Drugs, obviously
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>>40793030
>i hate shitoko and you
Rejoice, Schizo-san! Satoko and I will love you to death.
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>>40792811
those lot have characters beyond crazy faces, reasonings beyond school drama and diabolus ex featherineua, arcs that don't drag on forever with them doing the same stupid shit every damn time that people will shovel into their mouths and act like it's good
i don't enjoy seeing higurashi getting turned into crazy murdering little girls because that's what sells the most, leading on to an absolute shit show of an ending that changes nothing apart from creating crazy satoko which totally won't turn into lambda except she obviously would but ryukishi likes not committing to things
i also don't enjoy higurashi being a borderline yuri abuse show that would be outright yuri if it wasn't for ryukishi wanting to be pretentious and pretend it's 'beyond yuri' or some shit, along with once again not wanting to commit to shit, but you're still stuck with satoko going all batshit over rika every damn time she gets the chance
those three have nothing to do with that, and so i've not really got much reason to hate them right at this moment since they're not having biweekly releases of chapters focused entirely on them being crazy and doing crazy things apart from rena technically right now i guess but her whole craziness has been reasoned out while satoko is just rika rika rika rika rika all the time and while meguri's trying to act like there's more to it than that satoko getting all euphoric while doing something violent to rika every few months really doesn't help sell that
also i'm sick of her acting cute seeing it so many times has outright made me immune to it and now it just irritates me when that's her entire thing right now
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Mion (pregnant)
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Good evening! I love Satoko.
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>>40793191
Good evening! I also love Satoko.
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>>40793045
keiichi enters into an absolutely sinful relationship with rika and satoko. mion finds out and cannot cope with this turn of events, and after violently lezzing out with rena, she discovers rika already dead at the shrine. takano has been watching rika fuck before she kidnapped her and got kind of horny so she rapes tomitake before killing him. the rest is like minagoroshi
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>>40793191
as if you wasn't here already, shitokofaggg and shitty artist
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>>40793201
Showing Rika's one redeeming quality? It was vital.
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>>40793210
>she rapes tomitake
Which men would say No to Takano?
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>>40793201
rika's tight little butt

>>40793234
he is a man of principle
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>>40793078
Satoko isn't just a "le crazy face meme girl" and she hasn't even been the MC for 1/10th the length of Maekashi yet. Your entire post is retarded.
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>>40793191
>>40793207
Good evening friends, let's love Satoko together!
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>>40793127
It's like the Picture of Dorian Grey, Shion can have as much sex as she wants and Mion's the one who gets pregnant
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can someone murder this off model cunt devil?
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>>40793255
Begone.
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>>40793256
>>40793281
kill yourself samefagging shittoko faggot who gets hurt :(
no one love shitoko and stop posting new art of her we prefer new rika art in here. shitoko belongs to reddit. go fuck yourself please.

i will filter all of you.
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>>40793275
i don't think that was exactly how that book went...
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>>40793238
>a man of principle
I respect ideals, but Takano is such a peak ideal woman that I would be nonstop crempie-ing her. She is so damn gorgeous.
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>>40793078
>Reasons beyond school drama
We're not talking about Sotsu you dumb faggot. Meguri is a completely different beast.
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>>40793307
I think that's what he meant by

>and diabolus ex featherineua

Tons of people seemt to act like Eua giving powers to Satoko and watch her breaking herself by seeing bad worlds as too much, but are fine with Takano being completely railroaded by Nomura.
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nomura railing takano...
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>>40793256
Let's!
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>>40793356
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Meguri's portrayal of Satoko losing her mind is just a written example what what Lambda said about taking a bullied kid and suddenly giving them power. Satoko's loops weren't as intense as Rika's, but she was just as miserable. It completely broke her down because no matter what action she took, Fate would rear it's ugly head. There is no happy future for her.
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>>40793392
Are the designs related?
Something I notice from Umineko is that its a sort of subversion of Higurashi. The fact that the main villains are Rika-faces really should highlight that
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I think Rena becoming a looper/witch would be most interesting
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>>40793498
There's an AI generated story about this.
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>>40793498
At this point, everyone should become a Witch, its the only way to be actually relevant at this point.
Both the Umineko and Higurashi human casts got reduced to irrelevance by Witch autism (even if Maria didn't escape the irrelevance even after becoming a Witch lol)
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>>40793498
Anyone other than Rika would be a more interesting looper.
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>>40793304
Takano basically made the offer for Tomitake to be spared and creampie her as much as he wants if he joined in the GHD plan, but he refused out of that principle.
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>>40793559
That is why you just rape Takano until she surrenders to the dick.
Actually, this could work with Sayo too desu.
All When They Cry villains only needed a good rape.
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>>40793498
It'd be nice to see how Rena would stop her mother from being a slut
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Oh, and Satokodelta being unable to control herself and running her mouth about her plans is what's going to screw Satoko over this time instead of the Ooishi thing.
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Remember when this blood png was the witch going ooga booga on Ushiromiyas? Now it's used when Rosa destroys a stuffed toy, man episode 4 has so many good moments and I've warmed up to Ange but it's also the weirdest one by far. What was Ryukishi smoking?
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>>40793518
By chapter 3 of Mei's main pot basically everyone is looping, although basically all side-stories and events take place before that. So, we haven't seen much of it, actually.

I wonder if we could get that plot somewhere else since Mei's main story is basically slower than a VN due to being set up to run for years.
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What did you guys think of GouSotsu anime? I know I should probably watch it but I'm really lazy and I don't like the plot. Is GouSotsu really good? If it is, I'll watch it. I'd only be watching it for best girl Rena tho.
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>>40793599
The anime is dogshit. Read the manga.
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>>40793599
It was nonsensical, so bad the manga had to change a few things around
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>>40793599
It's so bad that it had to be rewritten.
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>>40793599
It's shit, and in your case Rena's only contribution was the occasional schizo face for one arc
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>>40793599
The anime was written by people that know fuck-all about Higurashi and Umineko outside of their shitty DEEN adaption. Just read the manga.
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>>40793588
Umineko makes sense when you realize that the Ushiromiya DNA makes all their members to be a huuuuuge drama queens that treat everything dead serious.
Shannon and Kanon started as Kumasawa teaching Sayo about acting properly and she took it so seriously that the LARP started.
Maria gets a broken toy and thinks that its a murder.
Battler refuses to suspect of anyone from his family or even his servants to levels of self delusion.
Ange mastered delusion to the level that she created Heaven for her family.
Kinzo was Kinzo.
Rudolf was determined to have two wives to have sex nonstop.
Rosa was as lusty as Rudolf, loving taking creampies on her vacations (that's how Maria appeared).
Jessica was such a extreme Touhou player that she fell in love with her gaming chair.
George build his entire personality into becoming a stereotypical male husband
Eva prefered to ruin her own life over saying the truth.
Krauss had a tendency to pick the dumbest economical choice that he could.

Being a Ushiromiya= actual insanity
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>>40793599
No, if you'd only want to watch it if it's good, don't, it's really not.

First three arcs of Gou are rehashes of the OG anime with sudden "new endings" thrown in that feel out of place. They also generally had worse atmosphere than the Deen anime. The 2nd arc at least adapts a lot of stuff that the Deen anime left out from early Watanagashi VN, but all other arcs basically follow the same content adapted by Deen before the new endings.

4th arc is almost completely original and actually great, with some moments that I think are better than in the manga (which otherwise is all around superior), although it still has a couple of oddities.

5th arc is a mixed bag. Some good moments, some stuff that feels incomplete and like they'd go back to fill in more later... but they never do.

Then there's Sotsu... The first three arcs are answer arcs for the first three arcs from Gou... but they repeat a lot the same content and the reveals are often kind of obvious coming from everything already revealed in Gou.

The first Sotsu arc still gives some Tsumihoroboshi footage that wasn't in the original Deen adaptation so, there's that going for it. The 2nd arc is a complete waste of time with multiple issues - it wasn't even written by the same script writer that did the Question arc version in Gou and there are lot of oddities around it but connecting with each other and with the original story. Third arc attempts an actual character but it all ends up pointless and disregarded by the series' conclusion.

Fourth and final arc started with two almost complete recap episodes then a very rushed two episode conclusion that focus on very superficial motives for the events and basically has no time to give anyone proper reactions to anything. It does have great animation for the final battle though. Then it all ends in a completely unearned epilogue.
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>>40793498
Imagine Rena looping after taking you home so your existence is in a constant state of being taken home by Rena.
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>>40793581
>Satokodelta
you wish lmao
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let's all love rika together!
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>>40793827
Yeah, there's no way Satoko would end up being someone as lame as Lambdadelta, who is clearly just a cheap Satoko imitator because she knows she'd never be able to be as cool of a witch as she is.
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Good evening! I love Maria!
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>>40793827
Lancer..
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>>40793870
Why?
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>>40793878
Because she deserves to be loved.
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>>40793856
cute butt
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Oof, RGD's minigame is breaking my balls.
I keep falling ranks despite doing my best..
Are there any tricks to it?
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>>40793599
It's probably the best piece of higurashi media to this date.
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>>40793871
Ecuador-san..
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>>40793870
What do you love about her?
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>>40793878
because he's a pedo
you can feel bad for Maria but you can't love her if you're sane
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>>40793078
Based
I feel the same
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>>40794095
Her smile, her beliefs, her innocence!
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>>40793243
You may like her, but Satoko has always been badly written and is even worse now
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Ryushiki really lied when he said that he wanted Maria to be as iconic as Rika.
Like, Rika is not only the MC, she also has like, countless Rikafaces.
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>>40794102
This is some nice delusions and cope, shitokonigger.
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>>40793588
The blood splatter is supposed to be how Maria saw it. In her eyes, Rosa did kill a family member.
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>>40794133
>Ryushiki really lied when he said that he wanted Maria to be as iconic as Rika.
When did he say that? Maybe it was to disguise the identity of the one writing the letter at the end of Episode 1 of Umineko?
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>>40794156
Not that anon but I remember reading in one interview that he was surprised Maria didn't become as popular as Satoko and Rika, which goes to show how much he doesn't understand his own characters because Rika and Satoko aren't popular just for being le crazee lolis
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>>40794128
She's weaker character-wise than her friends, but her family problems and the reason she acts how she does (mostly her relationship with Satoshi) was something I liked learning about in Tatari and Mina.
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Keiichi is Cloud Strife and Satoshi is Zack Fair
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>>40794196
then why didn't the time jannies appear to prevent Satoshi from waking up
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>>40793599
Gou is pretty good, Sotsu is just bad.
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>>40794302
Gou was okay at best but it had a few high points, mostly nekodamashi.
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>>40794179
ah yes how could people possibly dislike a screeching child who goes UU UU UU UU constantly for 8 hours
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Meguri movie when?
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>>40794325
I'd rather have that than anything involving George/Shannon or Ange.
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>>40794345
Add Kanon to that list
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>>40794345
i don't see why people hate ange, all the boring parts of ep4 were maria parts
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>>40794449
She fucking sucks.
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Caleb was a good antagonist.
I'm looking forward to seeing how the story revolving around Primavera continues, now that Leo has left the family.
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>>40794345
This, but make it Battler/Beatrice instead.
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>>40794341
At best it will will be used as a basis for a future console release. Although Kanou might just try his own take on R07's Gou/Sotsu's outline too at some point.
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>>40794478
yeah that's the point of the character
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>>40794491
>Battler/Beatrice instead.
Ok, not this is a new opinion. Could you explain me your reasoning.
I'm not going to insult you, I am legit interested
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>>40794512
Ryukishi already said that gou and Sotsu are not being made into VN's. I assume this will apply to Meguri too
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Ciconia Phase 2.
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>>40794029
I did pretty good on them up until the final season using a laptop trackpad. If you're using a mouse it's probably really easy.
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what's up with the wtc booba smartasses? why they are rude copers?
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>>40794562
It comes out in October.
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>>40794574
but which october
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>>40794568
I'm using a mouse and keep my rank around the star with two swords crossed underneath. Can't get better than that.
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If Ikuko had taken Battler to a hospital and just investigated who Battler was, Battler would have likely been returned to Ange and would have slowly gained his memories back and taken care of his little sister who only has him now. Battler and Ange would have grown old together with Eva taking over as a mother figure, hurting from the experience of losing their parents but realising the value and opportunity that it provided in giving them greater insight into the value of family.

Instead Ikuko kidnaps Battler and milks his cock raw every night to the point where he breaks his pelvis and forgets everything but her pussy, likely recording each fuck session for the sole purpose of collecting them in a single feature film to deliver to Ange before she dies of cancer as a lonely old woman whose legacy is writing shitty stories about talking lions. She can't keep getting away with it.
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>>40794659
His dick doesn't work, bro
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>>40794669
do you have proof?
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>>40794669
He lost the use of his legs due to an accident afterwards, while being haunted by his memories, not due to almost drowning or getting run over by Ikuko.
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>>40794677
yes
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>>40794669
his dick MIGHT still work
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>>40794683
please show
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>>40794694
I can't
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>>40794580
This October
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>>40794703
damn
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>>40794325
Same way how anyone could dislike children that go "OHOHOHO" and "nipah" for 9 hours straight
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>>40794704
But what if it doesn't?
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>>40794745
they don't spam their catchphrases nearly as often, just look at the script
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>>40794528
Not that anon but I hate Beatrice because I hate Yasu and I hate how Battler goes from hating her to marrying her
He has no reason to love Yasu other than guilt
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>>40794745
>>40794753
Yeah, doesn't even say Nipah until Tatarigoroshi.
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>>40794745
niipah is cute.
UUU UUU is ear ache.
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>>40794797
which one sounds better in a seductive tone
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>>40794797
She just needs abit of Hau to balance out the uuus
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nipah > mii > auau > hauu > uu-uu > ohoho
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>>40794806
obviously nipaa
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Imagine if instead of Ange, they actually had Maria as the survivor of the Ushiromiya Massacre alongside Eva.
Eva and Maria return to the mainland, Eva takes care of Maria and...the same thing as with Ange, Eva is far too angry to care.
The funny thing here is that this confirms Rosatrice...for Rokkenjima Prime, the rest of the stories are still with Sayo as the killer.

Basically, Chiru but with Maria as the MC instead of Ange.

The issue is the dynamics with Battler, she obviously doesn't have the Ange big bro worship...unless dunno, change the story to make that Battler actually kept contact with the cousins but refused to live with his parents. I perfectly see a Maria that spend more time with Battler seeing him as her big brother.
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>>40794816
Premium grade taste.
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>>40794822
I've said this before stop stealing my thoughts
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>>40794822
Damn, it was meant to >>40794325
My point here. Ange really should have fused with Maria.
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>>40794822
would her 'bro'con tendencies be better or worse
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>>40794848
ange needs a big sister to tell her not to be suicidal
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>>40794816
just swap the last two and they are correct, ohoho is annoying but UuUuUu in that high tone of voice is really grating
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>>40794707
rori ange sexo
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>>40794912
i'd fuck the absolute shit out of maria's whore mum
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I'd fuck the absolute shit out of maria
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>>40794858
Heh, thinking about the concept. Witch Maria would still stay there. The twist would be that "Ange Ushiromiya" is not real, she is just Maria LARPing hard as Battler's sister because Battler was a better family than Rosa (and heck, let's be cruel here, Battler actually dies/ gets injured for Rosa, turning the flashback of Rosa breaking the toy into foreshadowing of Rosa killing Battler).
The scene of Eva's death features Eva avoiding calling AngeMaria by name, only calling her "brat" or "little girl". Amakusa calls her Ange, but that's because he knows that she prefers that and he is playing along.
>>40794857
Even better. Outright incestuous fantasies produced by the contrast between her two identities where she is unsure if what she felt for Battler was a brotherly bond or her first crush.
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>>40794956
We know, Battler
>>40794971
We know, Battler.
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I'd fuck the absolute shit out of Battler
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Remember the short period of time when people thought Satoko was going to become Bern?
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>>40795128
that was like one guy and everyone called him a retard
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>>40795128
That never happened.
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Discuss.
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>>40795128
The Rikafag that becomes a Rika...truly a feat worthy of the Witch of Miracles.
>>40794845
Anon, you cracked it. I love the concept, did you expand on those or not?
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>>40795153
explain the scenes with 2 Shmions
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>>40795177
>explain the scenes with Kanon and Shannon
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>>40795185
explain the scenes with Mion and Shion (that don't have unreliable narration)
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>>40795138
It did.
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>>40795153
meakashi makes absolutely no sense because of the zillion scenes were shion is talking to someone and mion is confirmed to be at another place at the same time
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>>40795128
I supported the idea because it was an interesting take.
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>>40795197
They are hallucinations and/or unreliable narration.
>>40795206
> mion is confirmed to be at another place at the same time
Like when?
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>>40795206
She can move at lightspeed
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>>40794848
i literally forgot at some point that they were even separate characters. though in my case i forgot that maria was on the island and not at home sick
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>>40795185
Explain how Shion is able to have a job in another town while Mion attends class and club events, and nobody mentions Shion ever not showing up.
Also Shmion smooch!
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>>40795223
Whoops here's the image
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>>40795223
Shion might not really be working there; Keiichi never sees the two of them together at the place after all.
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh here's my theory half the arc is unreliable narration!

no
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>>40795222
>i literally forgot at some point that they were even separate characters.
The Ange Maria twist would have so kino.
Witch Maria is the keeper of Ange's repressed memories. I am utterly surprised at how Witch Maria was so...irrelevant to the story.
Like, she only exists to be Ange's imaginary friend and that's all.
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>>40795236
My vote is for Shion being the better kisser than Mion
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>>40795286
>>40795153
Hidden alien cloning facilities underneath Hinamizawa?!
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>>40795278
that's literally just umineko tho
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>>40795325
I could see Rena thinking this if she was L5 upon seeing the twins in the same place for the first time
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>ryukishi wouldn't do unreliable narration because that's just how it is ok ?!
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>>40795287
i think such a twist would only work if you went further into the maria/battler relationship than the original does
even if it stayed platonic the dynamic between the two drops off pretty rapidly past episode 2, so you'd need to have them consistently interacting and having a close relationship past that point for the surprise to work properly
i honestly think you'd have to make the beato/battler relationship not so hitched upon 'understanding each other = love' for such a thing to work well, which would change the direction of the story quite a bit, because otherwise you'd undervalue battler's situation with maria
whether that's positive or negative is up to your preference i think
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>>40795390
Maria? More like Mastinka.
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>>40795325
I want Rena to play the classic Nintendo 64 video game Hybrid Heaven and freak about how it's all true
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>>40795368
the whole story is built around the concept so it actually works
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>>40795462
L5 Rena meeting Shion for the first time and freaking out about aliens because Mion should've already been taken home.
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>>40794816
that, but replace ohoho with random satokoese and swap it with hauu
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>>40794659
you missed the part where battler and eva have non stop sex in george's bed
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>>40794912
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>>40795573
What a chad, this is so much more fitting now.
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>>40795500
I love Rena so much anons
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>>40795704
Wtf is wrong with her dress?
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>>40795729
What? All the important bits are covered, so there's no problem
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>>40795578
That's just how Battler is.
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>>40795704
>posts rena with rika
rika is fucking better than rena you plebeian normalfaggg
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>>40796038
Rena and Rika are friends, let them hold hands and be happy
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How the hell did ryu07 go from the absolute masterpiece that is RGD to shitty ciconia??
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3zkcOkYHjM
This track alone btfos the entire Ciconia BGM oh well ~
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>>40795390
>even if it stayed platonic the dynamic between the two drops off pretty rapidly past episode 2,
Umineko is weird in that it teases those developtments but they never happen
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>>40796086
Unlike previous OSTs where R07 basically got the compositions and tried to make them fit into the VN after the fact, Ciconia's compositions were done with the actual VN and their uses in mind. I think the end this actually hurt them rather than benefiting Ciconia.
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>>40793670
>>40793627
>>40793608
The manga is awful too, you guys have shit taste.
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I love how Rika was so fucking confused at Satoko's abrupt confession she didn't see the knife coming.
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>>40796246
Feel free to elaborate
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>>40796182
Really? Someone told me they were freeware tracks.
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>>40796324
Only OG Questions arc Higurashi was mainly free tracks.
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filthy japs don't give a shit about rika anymore
>inb4 some edgelord poster says "it's a good thing"
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>>40796287
Feel free to explain how Satoko became evil.
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>>40796366
godlike power destroyed her moral foundation not like satoko had much of one in the first place
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>>40796341
dead rika's meme and dead rika's feet
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>>40796366
She became fucking insane after experiencing countless loops where nothing she does matters and Rika or Satoshi die despite her best efforts. Her current looping is really just her losing herself in her dreamy past and if she ever gets taken out of it, she will gladly commit suicide forever, she is suicidal and violently insane.
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rika'"s" manga is already shit and we're dying and i want to die and rika wants to die
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Sloptoko
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>>40796371
Light Yagamj
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kill yourself seasonal wifenigiogigigigierererer
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>>40796371
They didn't until the manga decided they did
>>40796381
She saw her friends and her brother die many times which made her long for the past
Consequence
-> she goes back to the past where she was still happy
-> her friends and her brother die many times but in the past because apparently she didn't actually hate that
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>>40796366
Sure.
Satoko was hit hard by depression and loneliness brought on people who were bullying her behind her back because she didn't fit in with her environment. Because of this, she sought to bring back memories of Hinamizawa by pranking Rika, which went as well as you think it did, which lead to one of Rika's friends getting Satoko locked up in a self-study chamber for several months, which effectively functions as solitary confinement, during which Satoko did nothing but study so she could get out to the point where she began to have stress-induced nosebleeds. She even began to hallucinate during this time.
>People who experience solitary confinement are more likely to develop anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts, and psychosis. The practice also affects physical health, increasing a person's risk for a range of conditions, including fractures, vision loss, and chronic pain.
By the time she finally got out, she was practically a walking corpse that was probably just going to kill herself until she got a letter for the club meetup. Seeing her friends for the first time in a while made her wish that she could go back to those days, which prompted Eua to whisk her away, shove 100 years of guro into her heard, and grant her wish, which Satoko gladly accepted.
However, wishes are not so easily granted, as Satoko would then become trapped in a series of dead-end worlds where Rika would die, her brother would die, or Satoko herself would die. It doesn't necessarily matter if Satoko died, anything that caused her misery would cause her to loop. The worlds ended like this again and again and again and again and again, for 100 years. Absolutely nothing she did could change fate, she was trapped in this series of tragedies for 100 years, the same as Rika.
It warped her mind to the point where she began to associate these tragedies with a positive feeling of nostalgia for Hinamizawa and Rika's loops, where without the tragedies of the past, it won't feel right at all. It won't truly be the Hinamizawa that she wishes to return to.
So, Satoko decided that there was absolutely no way for her to ever have a happy future, and decided to live in the past. This idea seemed like such an obvious solution to her that she probably felt like an idiot for never thinking of it before. During this revelation, she also realizes that with this decision, her brother will truly never wake up. She says her final goodbye, and takes her first real step into the realm of witches.
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>>40796535
Yeah can see a further evolution of Satoko's descent into insanity at the end of Oniakashi. She took fate, the thing which had plagued her 100 years of suffering, and molded it into her own creation.
For Satoko, this moment is the same as Rika finally defeating Takano. This is her triumph against the world which had completely destroyed her.
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>>40796535
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>>40796574
Based character understander.
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>>40796574
Because of Tatari, we know that Satoko probably hates herself for this as well.
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>>40796535
>It warped her mind to the point where she began to associate these tragedies with a positive feeling of nostalgia for Hinamizawa and Rika's loops, where without the tragedies of the past, it won't feel right at all. It won't truly be the Hinamizawa that she wishes to return to.
Can you pinpoint the moment where this happens?
>without the tragedies of the past, it won't feel right at all. It won't truly be the Hinamizawa that she wishes to return to.
Satoko doesn't remember the tragedies? Those were Rika's loops not hers.
Again, why would she hate the tragedies when they happen in the future but they are suddenly good when they happen in the past?
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>>40796535
You can actually compare this to Minagoroshi. Satoko has built up a wall to protect herself, retreating into insanity because she cannot bring herself to confront reality.
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>Can you pinpoint the moment where this happens?
>without the tragedies of the past, it won't feel right at all. It won't truly be the Hinamizawa that she wishes to return to.
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>>40796733
>Again, why would she hate the tragedies when they happen in the future but they are suddenly good when they happen in the past?
Satoko's perspective of even her own tragedies became warped.
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>>40796735
It's funny you should bring that up, because she's going to be put into that same exact situation.
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>>40796804
I think what's happening in the manga is that this is the first time she's hanging out for long with Teppei in the loops and she keeps having traumatic childhood flashbacks during it, which end up reminding her of her own humanity, contrasting with him not being as violent as before. Although I don't think he'll be completely reformed in the manga. Note that this scene is based on a VN one, but there Teppei doesn't go in after an assurance from Satoko.

Then her actually going through with her plans in spite of these feelings will be her witch side effectively burying her human self, leading to Neko.
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>>40796759
>i hate tragedies!
>I know, I'll go to the past where there were not tragedies...
>but with tragedies!
Funny how the scene right before that there were no signs of Satoko suddenly having a change of heart huh?
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>>40796908
>Funny how the scene right before that there were no signs of Satoko suddenly having a change of heart huh?
Because Tomato had to go for le ebin surprise. The thought process obviously happened, otherwise she wouldn't be saying it.
>i hate tragedies!
>I know, I'll go to the past where there were not tragedies...
>but with tragedies!
This is about her controlling fate.
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>>40796775
When? I don't think I saw even a single scene where she goes "lol my brother died" or "lol rika's plane crashed against the twin towers" before that scene
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>>40796927
We get a montage that shows her getting more unhinged (after a loop where she killed herself even though there was no real tragedy, just a world she disliked in general) and when she "wakes up" we get her like that. We don't see the specific final loop where she gives up and goes crazy, just the aftermatch, which could have been an effective cap to them, but I don't think it hurts the narrative much.
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This scene is going to be Satoko's fracturing moment.
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>>40796926
>The thought process obviously happened otherwise the manga wouldn't make sense
Oh wait, it doesn't.
>This is about her controlling fate.
Like controlling fate... to make tragedies
not happen?
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>>40796971
You're just retarded.
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>>40796977
Tomato is just retarded.*
Here fixed.
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>>40796988
And this page here is important because there's nobody around for Satoko to be acting for. Teppei is also alive, and there is no way for Satoko to kill him since the police are there.
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>>40796971
She hated the future even without tragedies. She kills herself in this world where there had been no tragedies, just a generally bleak future.

Satoshi didn't get worse. Rika was alive. And yet she just cut her wrists.
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>>40797006
Satoko kills him AFTER the police leaves though. And Teppei is right behind Satoko there. From his point of view, maybe the "please, help me!" could be for him.

In fact, in the manga, she spends an entire extra day away from the club, so it's obvious she was doing very suspicious around that time.
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>>40796954
>>40797007
Calling it a world she just disliked in general is disingenuous, it's not like she killed herself because she got served a burger without tomato slice.
Her suicide does not even come before her suddenly turned unhinged, it actually shows her caring for the worlds AFTER that page.
>>40797007
She literally says she's killing herself because her brother won't wake up.
>She hated the future even without tragedies.
That's why she spent one hundred years trying to save the future instead of being sent to the past from the get-go?
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>>40797030
She doesn't need to kill him because he was arrested by the police.
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>>40797060
>She literally says she's killing herself because her brother won't wake up.
He didn't get worse or anything in that future though. It's just his general state. That's the point of that loop. Even without a specific tragedy, it was just undesirable to her.

>That's why she spent one hundred years trying to save the future instead of being sent to the past from the get-go?
She comes to hate the future because she never manages to find a desired future there, so she retreats to the past she loved.

My point, and the point of that final loop before the montage, is that even before she's actually hit by the tragedies she doesn't like the future. She doesn't do well in St.Lucia. Staying with Rika in Hinamizawa results in Rika being unhappy. Splitting from Rika also results in Satoko being unhappy.
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>>40797076
She wouldn't have spent an entire day away from the club if Teppei had just left with the police like reported.
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>>40797113
I hope this actually matters in the manga
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>>40797120
She literally asked them for help over the phone. Do you think she went "lol jk" as the police were storming the house?
>>40797125
It's Satoko shooting Ooishi.
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>>40797137
I meant Rena witnessing it and surviving
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>>40797146
She survived in the anime too.
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>>40797150
Yes and it didn't really mean anything, despite the big scene of her breaking down while Satoko went witch mode
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>>40797162
The scene is there for the audience.
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>>40797107
>He didn't get worse or anything in that future though
>Even without a specific tragedy
He's essentially dead.
>She comes to hate the future because she never manages to find a desired future there
Ok.
>so she retreats to the past she loved.
She does not? She brings the tragedies of the future back to 1983. The past she loved didn't have tragedies.
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>>40797137
Oishi knows the situation. He'd help her argue that it was just due to the pressure or something.

Satoko wouldn't have spent an entire day away from the club if she was doing nothing. Nor you'd need Oishi stopping the club from following them.

He did that because he sees the club as the villains here.

>>40797137
The sfx. It's Satoko shooting Oishi, Rika and herself just like in the anime.
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>>40797191
>It's Satoko shooting Oishi
Read the post you just replied to.
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>>40797191
>The sfx.
I meant three sfx.
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Injecting Rika-chama with...!
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>>40797182
>He's essentially dead.
Still has hope of recovery if he isn't getting worse.

>She does not? She brings the tragedies of the future back to 1983. The past she loved didn't have tragedies.
She saw Rika's loops and how her world was built on tragedies. Besides, the tragedies are just the "reset". She's getting to hang around and play at her favorite time before resetting, something she wouldn't get at a later date.

Also, like the newest chapter clearly demonstrated, her knowing everything about the past gives her a sense of power completely different from the uncertain future.
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We will keep having those garbage-tier Higurashi stories if those mindless fans try to justify everything even though it doesn't make sense.
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>>40797281
It only doesn't make sense to actual retards like you.
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>>40797270
>Still has hope of recovery if he isn't getting worse.
Not even Satoko is this delusional. Poor kid isn't coming back.
>She saw Rika's loops and how her world was built on tragedies.
Those are Rika's worlds, not hers.
>Besides, the tragedies are just the "reset".
Not for Rika at least.
>>40797281
Goufaggots have no self-respect.
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>>40797334
>Those are Rika's worlds, not hers.
Dumb anon not understanding what happens when you shove 100 years of memories into someone's head.
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>>40797281
Most people are just fine with the "future looping broke Satoko" explanation even if a few aren't. We just saw people almost universally rejecting the school as the core motivation so it's not like people would just take anything.

>Those are Rika's worlds, not hers.
Her world was literally built from those.
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>>40797355
Too early faggot.
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>>40797361
nah
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>>40797347
>when you shove 100 years of memories into someone's head
Do you think when you watch a movie people are shoving memories inside your head? lmao
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>>40797389
You are confirmed a retard and are officially not even worth replying to.
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>>40797389
Anon...
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>>40797389
lol
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>>40797389
It's time to stop posting.
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>>40797389
Put me in the screencap
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>>40797416
Cope. We see her watching the loops from a third-person view, she essentially watched a movie where her friends gets murdered.
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>>40797389
LMAO
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>>40797334
>Not even Satoko is this delusional. Poor kid isn't coming back.
She believed he could at the beginning, otherwise she wouldn't have suffered through those worlds by his bedside for so long
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>>40797421
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>40797421
ONE
HUNDRED
FUCKING
YEARS
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do people seriously defend meguri?
how?
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>>40797434
Knock it off with the insane samefagging, it isn't healthy
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>>40797437
Not anymore at that point clearly.
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>>40797479
lol
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>>40797470
Explain how it's bad and maybe people will think you aren't a moron.
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>>40797504
Relax.
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>>40797515
No
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>>40797497
Well that's the point, she stopped believing and didn't even bother to wait until things got fucked up
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>>40797531
Her brother being dead is pretty fucked up...
>>40797513
It's the third poster calling your shit manga for what it is, get a hint.
Satoko becoming evil, sadistic, and willing to murder her beloved friends all of the sudden is not realistic.
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>>40797550
>Satoko becoming evil, sadistic, and willing to murder her beloved friends all of the sudden is not realistic.
see
>>40796535
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>>40797350
>Most people are just fine with the "future looping broke Satoko"
Lmao no, wtf is wrong it you?
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>>40795573
>>40794912
>After running away from home, Battler went to live with Rosa
>developed an older brother relationship with Maria and started banging Rosa
>Rosa cucked Yasu and caused the massacre
>Maria fell in love with the guy banging her mom
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>>40797593
>See Hanyuu
>immediately vomit
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>>40797554
Already addressed that point.
>>40796733
The manga never shows Satoko becoming sadistic during the loops in the future, she just suddenly has her epic evil reveal.

>>40797593
Satoko essentially speedwatching the loops is not the same as experiencing them.
>>40797350
Satoko's world is Matsuribayashi.
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>>40797641
But it shows her losing hope in the future and becoming more unhinged in general which leads to later part.

I actually do agree that Tomato skipping the final world where she just gave up on it all was a mistake, but everything around that is more than solid enough.

>>40797641
>Satoko essentially speedwatching the loops is not the same as experiencing them.
They clearly still had a big impact on her though.

>Satoko's world is Matsuribayashi.
A miracle world made from those old fragments she was watching.
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>>40797641
>Already addressed that point.
Not with anything good lol
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The smallest resemblance of hope I had with Meguri is gone after this panel. Simply awful.
>Muh Matsuri
Matsuri is fucking awful too.
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>>40797697
This. It was retarded in Matsuri and it's retarded in Meguri.
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>>40797697
Are they defending Sotsugou too or only the manga?
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>>40797709
How about you read the fucking thread
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>>40797697
Meh. You can't just make Satoko's traps super useful and then completely ignore them afterwards.

Her actually using her traps was nice even if they're seemingly phased out for the gun afterwards.
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>>40797684
>But it shows her losing hope in the future and becoming more unhinged in general which leads to later part.
Look at this, this is a desperate person but not one who has lost hope, or even unhinged
>>40797060
Satoko becoming unhinged simply happened all of the sudden.
>I actually do agree that Tomato skipping the final world where she just gave up on it all was a mistake, but everything around that is more than solid enough.
If they skipped, it's because didn't find a way to realistically depict the concept, that's how I see it.
>They clearly still had a big impact on her though.
I would be shaken too if I saw a movie where my friends gets murdered, your point?
>A miracle world made from those old fragments she was watching.
Not the same thing. For Satoko it is her one world, for Rika the last out of many.
>>40797685
Cope.
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>>40797739
I can't understand people defending this shit.
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>>40797752
>If they skipped, it's because didn't find a way to realistically depict the concept, that's how I see it.
Literally two pages is all you would need to connect A to B. It's not an issue of not being able to do it, the issue is Tomato wanted to go for shock value with the reveal.
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>>40797757
What's wrong with it?
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>Look at this, this is a desperate person but not one who has lost hope, or even unhinged
You can clearly see her getting unhinged during the montage when she's doing stuff like stalking Rika.
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>>40797761
sigh...
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>>40797768
I'll take that as a "I can't tell you because I can't"
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>>40797770
anon I...
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Meguri haters are coming out full-force, unable to defend their views lol
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I hated every second of Gou, and Sotsu was pure torture.
Because of that I avoided Meguri like the plague.
But just now I finally went and read it, and it's actually good.
If GouSotsu was a clone of the manga, it would have been fine, I look forward to the coming chapters and conclusion, and expect it to be a satisfying ending.

Also, note that Satoko's 100 years were extremely different than Rika's. No friends murdering each other, only years and years of arguments, loneliness, betrayal, disappointment, and depression. Rika spent 100 years with her friends, with Hanyuu's support, forgetting all of her deaths, able to blame all the tragedies on HS, waiting for a miracle to save her. Satoko spent 100 years alone, remembering every second, watching everything inevitably fall apart, with only herself to blame.
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>>40797782
Hey man, you obviously think something's wrong with it, so give me your obviously superior perspective.
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>>40797758
A two page descent to insanity of Satoko wouldn't have been more convincing than the 1 page one we got.

>>40797767
I don't know how unhinged you can consider that, considering Rena did that even in her sane moments in Onikakushi.
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>>40797802
>Rena did that even in her sane moments in Onikakushi.
Rena wasn't insane in Onikakushi.
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>>40797790
You must be delusional if you think that somehow Rika's 100 years were better than Satoko's lol.
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>>40797790
>No friends murdering each other, only years and years of arguments, loneliness, betrayal, disappointment, and depression.
>Satoko spent 100 years alone, remembering every second, watching everything inevitably fall apart, with only herself to blame.
I'm not sure I agree, Satoko didn't do anything wrong in particular, it was just fate fucking her up.
All that thing about arguments and betrayals are from Sotsu, but Meguri Rika is actually willing to compromise at her own happiness' expense.
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>>40797790
>I hated every second of Gou, and Sotsu was pure torture.
>Because of that I avoided Meguri like the plague.
Pretty sure that's whats happening here. People hated Gou and Sotsu, so they force themselves to hate Meguri.
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>>40797809
Yes, exactly.
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>>40797834
So why the comparison?
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>>40797822
Or you know... it's still bad because Tomato can only make so much change. After all it's Ryukishi's brainless script that's causing the issue.
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>>40797845
You hate the concept, not the script, and because you hate the concept, you try to shit on the script as much as you can.
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>>40797858
That's a weird kind of cope.
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>>40797840
He's arguing that stalking isn't a sign of insanity. But just look at Satoko's face.
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>>40797868
Put forward an actual argument as to why it's bad.
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>>40797845
He can only change so much since most of the Gou manga was pretty close to the anime. But Tomato can do some meaningful improvements since the Gou manga already had some important differences in the characters and sequence of events. A lot of this shit happening in the background kinda opens the door for tweaks. Oniakashi had a few cool things despite being a very straightforward chapter in the anime, hopefully Wata follows suit in a much bigger way.
However the manga handles the end of Tatari and what comes after is going to be crucial on whether or not the manga has a decent new ending or just turns to shit like the anime.
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>>40797767
I'm going to hug this Satoko
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>>40797822
They should watch that 3 hour essay about it, it was pretty good. Got me to realize that, while the execution was trash, the intention of what they were TRYING to do actually makes perfect sense.
It doesn't hurt that Meguri's about 1000 times faster paced than Sotsu. Turns out answer arcs work a lot better if you skip over the repeat content and add new stuff, who knew?
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>>40797908
It's our last chance for a Mion arc, I'm crossing my fingers for Watakashi.
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>>40797943
People actually enjoyed an anon's cut of the first two arcs, which played all of the scenes from Gou and Sotsu in chronological order, which means no scenes were repeated at all and it stops being a really shitty mystery.
https://streamable.com/mhdq47
https://streamable.com/r2o4vo
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>>40797950
Wataakashi will already need to use some time for Satoko's preparations, although hopefully there's still enough time for Mion.

And hopefully we won't end with "Did Mion kill everyone?" (back in Gou) - "Yep, no mystery." (Sotsu) since Rika's suicide here was moved to a Satoko kill.
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>>40797973
I've seen both, and have come to the conclusion that they shot themselves in the foot by not releasing it this way.
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>>40797984
Also, Rika getting killed in these preparation loops might be why she's more unhinged in Watadamashi.
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I would like to mention that the Question / Answer arc format for Sotsugyou was actually not Ryukishi's idea. It was the anime director's fault.
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Satoko eliminating people with her fat ass! A horrific fragment that no one wants to see.
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>>40797973
The Oni movie is honestly really good.
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>>40797973
It's still crap. What are you talking about?
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>>40798052
Gou wasn't that bad and Sotsu was shit because it was 90% reused scenes, Eua was a non-character, and Satoko's motivation was retarded.
The movie fixed the issue of reused scenes since every scene is chronological, and Eua doesn't appear in Oni at all, which means less memetoko.
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>>40798077
>Gou wasn't that bad
Anon, the only saving grace of Gou was that it was a mystery (which wasn't even good later revealed and we are all tired of the reused scenes since wata anyway) and if you try to remove THAT, then we have story that is just as bad as Sotsu.
I have no idea where the narrative of Gou being good comes from.
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>>40797984
There's enough changes in how things played out in manga watadamashi that the answer should change at least somewhat. No Shion antagonizing Mion despite sometimes keeping her past development, Satoko and Rika's disappearance happens at a different time(although Mion might still kill her after witch outburst), or the bodies in the well at the end where Shion's is on top and clearly bloody instead of death by strangling
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>>40798110
>I have no idea where the narrative of Gou being good comes from.
Did you also hate Onikakushi? Because 99% of Onidamashi was literally that scene for scene. The same applies to the other arcs with the exception of Satokowashi.
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>>40798168
I hate Onidamashi because it's essentially a fucking remake of the original Onikakushi with uglier art style and worse presentation.
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>>40798204
Onidamashi is literally a better adaption of Onikakushi than the actual Onikakushi adaption DEEN did.
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>>40798212
You don't have compare it to Deen. Compare it to the VN and tell me what is there to like Onidamashi.
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>>40798255
>You don't have compare it to Deen
Yes I do. You can't rightly compare an 80 minute anime to a 10 hour long VN arc.
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>>40798212
Now that's a sunken cost fallacy if I ever saw one. Onidamashi is essentially Onikakushi without all the scenes that made Onikakushi great. Even the copied parts manage to be worse than DEEN somehow.
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>>40798269
WHAT IS THERE TO LIKE ABOUT ONIDAMASHI?
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>>40798275
>Now that's a sunken cost fallacy if I ever saw one.
Please do not use terms you very clearly don't understand you pretentious fucking idiot.
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>>40798282
The story.,
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>>40798275
funnily enough i would say onikakushi is the only chapter in the first season that deen does a decent job adapting ir from the source
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>>40798283
>sunk-cost fallacy
>the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial.
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>>40798255
>You don't have to compare it to this thing
>But you have to compare it to THIS thing
What a shitty argument.
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>>40798290
>Because 99% of Onidamashi was literally that scene for scene.
>The story
So according to your logic you like Onidamashi for being a complete remake of onikakushi
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>>40798299
So where is the sunken cost fallacy at play you fucking dumbass?
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>>40798293
Meakashi and Tsumihoroboshi skip over some content but they are not that bad.
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>>40798308
I don't remember claiming otherwise.
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>>40798311
people were expecting good twists and resolution, despite first half of gou being one to one remake of the original story but they were kinda shit
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>>40798293
I think deen got Oni right because it's more focused on "Keiichi doesn't understand shit about what's happening" vs the later chapters needing to explain the village events/history or going deeper into the characters. Plus the anime overall had good sound/atmosphere, which was important especially for the opening chapter.

>>40798314
I dunno man, anime Meakashi felt like a completely different story in the second half and Tsumi was pretty rushed.
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>>40798311
People just can't admit Gou was utter shit because they got too invested in the hype.
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>>40798326
...What?
Dude, are you even following this conversation? Do you even know what it is I'm talking about right now? Are you even real, or an AI or something?
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>>40798315
so watadamashi and tataridamashi are good because they are remakes of original wata and tatari/mina
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If the Watadamashi answer arc in Meguri doesn't have another Rika murder montage I will be annoyed.
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>>40798347
Watanagashi was always bad so no, and Tataridamashi is shit because it veered off into the most boring part of Minagoroshi.
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>>40798358
Well she gets dumped into a septic tank one way or another
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>>40798358
Why would it have one?
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>>40798344
>>40798339
literally what this anon said, what is there not to understand?
people kept watching gou despite being a boring rehash of the original story expecting something good in the end, which is sunken cost fallacy
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>>40798365
Because Satoko outright said she can train for the next loops if she just kills Rika right away.
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>>40798374
>people kept watching gou despite being a boring rehash of the original story expecting something good in the end, which is sunken cost fallacy
This is like saying Onikakushi is shit because we know that Keiichi is hallucinating. Sunken Cost Fallacy doesn't apply at all.
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>>40798360
>onidamashi is good because it was literally onikakushi scene for scene
>watadamashi was always bad because IT SIMPLY IS
can't argue with that lol
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>>40798399
>watadamashi was always bad because IT SIMPLY IS
Might wanna re-read my post there. My claim wasn't that Watadamashi is shit. I said WataNAGASHI is shit, therefore, Watadamashi is also shit.
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>>40798391
well onikakushi is kinda shit in that regard, although it connects nicely to tsumi
besides onikakushi actually has interesting plot progression
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The damashi arcs were overall pretty meh outside of Tatari taking too long with the child welfare shit or Oni being kinda interesting since it was the first one to use the ending switcheroo.
The only Gou arc that I think was actually good on its own was Nekodamashi.
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>>40798421
You have to rank each arc by itself. If it doesn't stand on its own, people stop reading. Someone reading Onikakushi for the first time doesn't know how it connects to Tsumi.
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>>40798419
dude you're not really analyzing the quality of gou then, more like
>this part of gou good because originally good
>this part of gou bad because originally bad
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>>40798441
Someone reading it for the first time also doesn't know exactly what is real through Keiichi's eyes
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>>40798442
>this part of gou good because originally good
>this part of gou bad because originally bad
Yeah, that's how it's going to be when most of it is an adaption of the original.
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>>40798425
Exactly
>>40798441
>You have to rank each arc by itself
But I do. Onikakushi itself is pretty engaging.
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>>40798448
They also don't know to doubt Keiichi at all. Nobody reading Onikakushi for the first time is going to think he's just going crazy.
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>>40798374
Sunken cost fallacy would be people trying to insist that the later parts are good simply because the earlier parts are. This is the opposite of the sunken cost fallacy, where the claim is that the arc stands on its own.
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>>40798425
>The only Gou arc that I think was actually good on its own was Nekodamashi.
Funny enough, Nekodamashi is when people started to shit on Gou.
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>>40798473
>Sunken cost fallacy
it literally just means that you're invested in something because of time you spent
in gou's case people were invested in earlier parts even though they were boring because they hoped for an interesting twist
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>>40798484
People started to shit on it somewhat during Wata when they realized it'd mostly be the same but with a different ending.
Watadamashi was a better early Watangashi-hen than DEEN's version, but people knew that they'd have to wait until the end for something new, and then Tataridamashi did it again with Minagoroshi, although a lot more people got onboard with evil Satoko theory during that arc.
People probably shit on Neko too, but I definitely saw some kinda positive reactions to finally seeing a new arc and the Rika death montage.
Unfortunately most of my goodwill from Nekodamashi went away due to Satokowashi fucking up
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>>40798513
>people were invested in earlier parts even though they were boring because they hoped for an interesting twist
This doesn't apply to new watchers, however.
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>>40798484
>Nekodamashi
Surely, you mean Tataridamashi.
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>>40798520
>Rika death montage.
This is exactly why people shit on Neko. People were pissed that Higurashi became a gorefest and Nekodamashi didn't fit Higurashi at all.
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>>40798526
No, the real hate didn't start until Rika's death montage in Neko.
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>>40798521
Maybe new watchers shouldn't watch Gou in the first place.
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>>40798521
>new watchers
We shouldn't put any weight into their opinions
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>>40798550
>>40798553
Why not? The anime was marketed toward them.
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>>40798544
I saw Japanese poeple growing to hate Gou already because Tatari was fucking boring.
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>>40798534
It was stupid but her "5 more loops" thing was interesting until it got instantly destroyed in one episode.
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>>40798347
>tataridamashi
>good
Is this nigger serious?
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>>40798557
I feel bad for people that got tricked by the marketing into believing it was a remake, but I don't really care to hear their opinions on something they wouldn't know about
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>>40798484
Neko was hyped as hell on /a/, people HATED Wata and Tatari.
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>>40798573
No I was suggesting that according to that anon's logic tataridamashi is good because it's a remake of the original arcs. Granted he doesn't claim that because he doesn't like parts of mina to begin with.
I myself don't like it either because at this point we're at the third fucking rehash of Gou.
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>>40798521
New watcher are watching an inferior version of Onikakushi that skips the door scene and everything that comes after that.
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>>40798600
similar to my experience
>oni: kind hyped
>wata: wait, even more rehash?
>tatari early: not again please
>tatari later:somebody fucked it up
>neko: at least something new and interesting granted the gore is too extreme
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>>40793685
>Jessica was such a extreme Touhou player that she fell in love with her gaming chair.
lmao
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>>40798623
>George build his entire personality into becoming a stereotypical male husband
Opposed to becoming a stereotypical female husband?
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It's Beato! Everyone's favorite witch!
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>>40799309
Beato a cute attention whore!
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>>40799460
>whoa she's just like me
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Are you ready to accept your death with dignity, /07/th? Shall we merge with /kizuna?
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>>40799610
what the fuck is kizuna?
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>>40799610
Kill yourself already dbnigger
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>>40798025
more like his corpo masters told him to make it as long as possible so they could squeeze more money
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>go to sleep
>wake up
>some intelligent people show they understand sotsugou / meguri inside and out
everything is gonna be alright
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>>40800986
>some
Thats right only some cares about nugurashit and nushitoko and everything else since 2020 while the rest are boomer and with boomer taste because you zoomers love those oom memes lmaoo
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>>40799439
I'll give her all the attention she could ever want.
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