Visual Novel translation statusAiyoku No Eustia - 100% Translated and edited and TLCAkatsuki no Goei - Aya partial patch released, all routes fully translated translated, Prologue/Common/Aya route complete, remaining routes in editing and QAAkatsuki no Goei ~Principal-tachi no Kyuujitsu~ - Prologue + Reika / Kyouka After routes translatedAmagami - "Script translation and editing done 100%. Text synced, patches created, undergoing testing."Aonatsu Line - Translation startingAxanael - 30% translated, common route + 1/4th of the A route translatedBishoujo Mangekyou -Kami ga Tsukuritamouta Shoujo-tachi- - 30% translatedChaos;Head Noah - 100% translated, 20.92% TLC, 11.25% editedChicchakunai Mon - 49.7% translatedClearworld - Translation startingFate/Extra CCC - 86% translatedFuukan no Grasesta - Project starting upGore Screaming Show - Prologue + day 1 patch released, 27,28% [10200/37383] lines translated>Haruka ni Aogi, Uruwashi no - "Main School" routes fully translated, Editing and QA ongoing on the Main School routes, overall 77% (52385/68206) lines translated, 45% (30653/68206) lines editedHaruka na Sora - Sora route 9% translatedIf My Heart Had Wings: Snow Presents - 23% translated Ikisugi! M Lesson - Common Route patch releasedJunketsu Megami-Sama - 2nd Alpha patch releasedKamaitachi no Yoru - Public Beta releasedKud Wafter - 23,835 / 31,579 (73.5%) lines translated>Lover Able - 99.66% translated, 99.17% editedMaji Koi A-5 - Partial patch with Full Margit + Hound Route releasedMiagete Goran, Yozora no Hoshi o - R18 content restoration patch being worked on, progress on Hikari and Saya routesNursery Rhyme - 100% translated and edited, text insertion ongoingOnee-chan no Yuuwaku - 90% translated and TLC, 30% editedPure x Connect - 21886/43896 lines translated, 14267/43896 lines edited, prologue patch released, Moemi route translatedSen no Hatou, Tsukisome no Kouki - Both original and fan disc 100% translated, in need of editingShin Koihime Musou - 100% translated, 52% (56435/108888) editedSnow - Common Route, Sumino, Ouka and Asahi routes 100% translated, Legend and Meiko routes 30% translatedSummer Pockets Reflection Blue - 100% translated and edited, 60,808 / 68,918 (88.2%) original lines reworked>Taimanin Kurenai - 70% translated, 70% edited>Tsukihime - A piece of blue glass moon - Arcueid Day 1-5 partial patch released, day 6 though 8 translatedWatashi wa Kyou Koko de Shinimasu - 100% translated, 99% (2254/2265) lines edited, 30% (681/2265) lines QCWalkure Romanze - Common route patch releasedYosuga no Sora - Translation finished, editing and TLC ongoing, Total: TL 100% TLC 82% ED 25%Official workMangaGamerTrinoline Genesis - January 20th releaseCiconia - Phase 1 ReleasedHadaka Shitsuji fandisc - Picked upShiei no Sona-Nyl - 100% translated and edited, Refrain content 100% translated, in image editingRance IX - 100% translated and edited, script insertion in progressRance X - 39% translated, 3.5% editedLuckydog1 - Picked upSeventh Lair - 100% translated and editedErovoice - In BetaUchikano - Living with My Sister - In BetaThe Pillagers of Raillore - 64% translated, 60% editedUUUltraC - 100% translated and editedJAST>Dead Aegis - ReleasedKurokami-sama's Feast - Demo released, January 21st releaseSlow Damage - Early 2022 release, 100% translatedFlowers - Title 4 translation startedSumaga- Upcoming releaseKatahane - Upcoming releaseDjango - Waiting on translation.Machine Child - AnnouncedAge titlesMuv Luv Total Eclipse - English release plannedSchwarzesmarken - Through GreenlightKiminozo - "now in production for English release"FrontwingGrisaia: Phantom Trigger Vol 8 - February 25th releaseSharin no Kuni - Delayed for 3-6 months to resolve swapping resolution problemSol Press/Panty PressHappiness! 2 Sakura Celebration - 100% translated and edited, in QAShitsuji ga Aruji o Erabu Toki - "Currently restaffing"Nukitashi - 100% translated and edited, "rebuilding QA file"Himawari to Koi no Kioku - "Currently restaffing"Irotoridori no Sekai - 100% translated and edited, waiting on QA buildWitch's Garden - "Acquiring staff"Hyper->Highspeed->Genius - "Acquiring staff"
Sekai/DenpaAmatsutsumi - Rejected by Steam, looking at alternative platformsThe Seventh Sign -Mr. Sister- - "Planning release", appears to have been rejected by SteamLey-Line: Daybreak of Remnants Shadow - Q1 2022 release planned, ongoing QALey-Line: Flowers Falling in the Morning Mist - Fully localized, in QAHarumade Kururu - Waiting on buildRewrite+ Harvest Festa - 50% translated, 20% editedHoshizora no Memoria (retranslation) - Going through QAHoshizora no Memoria Eternal Heart - 100% translated and edited, programming work to begin soonIsland Diary - 90% through QAMiko no Kanata - 100% translated and edited, awaiting engine workMemory's Dogma - Code:01 Released, 02 onwards upcomingTenshin Ranman - QA and engine work next, in "icebox"Subete no Koi ni, Hanabata o. - 50% translatedSumire - Picked upSanarara R - 100% translated and edited, waiting on buildKanojo no Seiiki - Picked upGlass - Picked upNew Glass - Picked upKarakara 3 - 100% translated and editedYume to Iro de Dekiteiru - 35% translatedZutto Mae Kara Joshi Deshita - AnnouncedGakkou no Seiiki - AnnouncedImouto no Seiiki - 40% translatedKanojo no Seiiki - 100% translated and edited, engine work in progressChiisana Kanojo no Serenade - AnnouncedHoshizora e Kakaru Hashi - AnnouncedHoshizora e Kakaru Hashi AA - AnnouncedAkaneiro ni Somaru Saka - 50% translatedQUALIA ~The Path of Promise~ - 100% translated and editedRe;Lord 3 - 100% translated and edited, waiting on buildAmairo Chocolate 2 - 100% translated, in editingKemonomichi Girlish Square - 100% translated and edited, waiting on buildSecret Project 1 - 100% translated and edited, waiting on buildNekonyan>Hello Lady - January 21st releaseKin'iro Loveriche -Golden Time- - 75% translated and TLC, 5% editedDracu Riot - 100% translated, TLC, and edited, engine porting starting shortly, HD release plannedClover Days - 100% translated, TLC, and edited, engine porting ongoing, 5% QC, 2021 releaseMelty Moment - 75% translated and TLCCafe Stella - 95% translated, edited, and TLCMirai Radio to Jinkou-bato - 100% translated, TLC, and edited, engine porting 50% completeAoi Tori - 90% translated and TLC, 70% edited, engine porting in progressFureraba Complete edition - Vita exclusive content to be added to Fureraba a couple months after the fandisc releaseMaking＊Lovers: Geki Icha After Story - 100% translated and TLC, 50% editedSecret Project 1 - 100% translated and TLC, 75% editedSecret Project 2 - 60% translated and TLCSecret Project 3 - 100% translated and TLC, 50% editedVisual Arts/KeyAngel Beats 1st Beat - 50% translatedLoopers - English release plannedLoveLabChinkamo Twins! - English version nearing completionAksysVariable Barricade - February 24th releaseLover Pretend - 2022 releasePiofiore no Banshou -Episodio 1926- 2022 releaseKimi wa Yukima ni Koinegau - 2022 releaseParadigm Paradox - 2022 releaseShiravune>Marshmallow All the Way Home - Released>Nope Nope Nurses - January 14th releaseRyuusei World Actor: Badge & Dagger - Announced, trial version releasedDoukyuusei Remake - AnnouncedMoonchime Tokyo Onmyouji - February releaseOther>Hentai Houseparty: Gyaru Gangbang - January 18th releaseSecret Kiss is Sweet and Tender - February 17th releaseHakuchuumu no Aojashin - Targeting a January or February releaseKawaime M Maid-san no Oshigoto SM Lesson - Upcoming releaseVenus Blood -Frontier- fandiscs - Ongoing Kickstarter successfulJiangshi x Taoshi - Episodes 1-3 releasedMonkeys! - English release plannedEvenicle 2 - Demo released, approaching new platforms after being rejected by SteamVenus Blood -AfterDays- - Kickstarter plannedNarKarma EngineA - Announced, in developmentTaimanin Asagi - Page for the Trial of episode 1 back on SteamFault - Silence the Pedant - Demo releasedFault Milestone 2 - Side Below - 2021 release--->Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
>>38108461>Lover Able - 99.66% translated, 99.17% editedThis is retarded.
>>38108503It's funny that the spreadsheet keeps getting updated but their website hasn't had a post on it in over 4 years.
Is Dohna Dohna worth pirating
>>38108981Gameplay is shit, but it's worth it for the art.
>>38108981Yeah it's pretty cute and you can just cheat the gameplay stuff. Definitely not worth a purchase though.
>>38108994Yeah, the art looks slick as hell. Some of the best I've seen Alicesoft put out>>38109011I'd consider buying it on a massive sale if literally anyone (aka MangaGamer, JAST, even Alicesoft themselves) but Johren sold it and it didn't have shitty DRM. Denuvo on VNs, are you fucking kidding me? I'm not gonna pay to download Denuvo when I can just pirate it and not have to deal with that shit. Also, isn't Johren a shitty combo of DMM and Nutaku?
>>38109118I'd buy it for full price if it was uncensored and DRM free, the art is fantastic but it's ruined by mosaics.
>>38109131I don't give a single shit about mosaics. I want fun gameplay, an engaging story, a good TL & art, and nice h-scenes. Half the time the artist doesn't draw anything under the mosaics, and even when they do the result makes me wonder if the artist has ever seen a real penis of vagina. Redraws tend to look like shit, too.
>>38109171>I don't give a single shit about mosaicsLook at I Walk Among Zombies or Purplesoft titles and say that again. Some artists do an absolutely fantastic job, others literally draw nothing. The artist behind Dohna Dohna does fantastic work which is the real shame to it being censored. Waffle's artist does some pretty fucking good work too.
>>38109171And yes, they 100% use Denuvo. The company that makes Denuvo was bragging about partnering with DMM on their shitty sitehttps://irdeto.com/news/dmm-games-llc-enlists-denuvo-to-protect-new-releases/
>>38109202If it actually looks good uncensored, that's a plus, but it's not a deciding factor for me on buying something. If I had to choose between a really good TL or removed mosaics, I'd choose the TL.
>>38109305>If I had to choose between a really good TL or removed mosaics, I'd choose the TL.Not very smart of you given that most VN's end up getting a fan rewrite by an anon if the translation is bad which ends up being better than a good official translation. Pretty much every Sekai Project ends up getting a fan rewrite and some NN titles do as well.
>>38109374I wouldn't consider the average Sekai or NN TL to be a good TL. I know some of the people that founded NN, they're fucking idiots. I'm sure they know JP, they're just cringe and bad with English
>>38108461>Django - Waiting on translation.Is the translator okay?
>>38108994agreed the art is fucking amazing also loved the music. it felt like Katana Zero.
>>38108461>Lover Able - 99.66% translated, 99.17% editedI can't even remember anymore how many years I've been waiting for this.
Love Lab has a Secret Project now, and it's 6.7% translated.https://twitter.com/lovelabjapan/status/1480304260843806722
>>38109287What makes their site bad? Is it only because of Denuvo?
>>38109397Today the translator feels good. Who knows about next week.
>>38110341It's gonna be BL or something.
>>38110341Is it another Moege?
>>38109393But same happne with Shirai; the translation is questionable, memes, the honorifics are removed and they always reverse the names order.
>>38110341It's going to be censored so who cares?
>>38110482what the fuck is shirai
>>38110357You need to be online to authenticate the title and then need to reauthenticate the title every 2 weeks. If you change your drive name or change out a part on your PC without deactivating the license beforehand, you'll lose an authenticate. If you do that 3 times you're locked out of the title you bought and Johren will not restore authenticates even if you contact support. The storefront is also shit and wont accept many types of debit or credit cards. They also have a 0 refund policy. They will not refund a purchase under any circumstance.Plus all their shit is censored with mosaics and some of their titles have additional unmentioned censorship.
>>38110357>>38110561Seems like Shiravune is putting more of their titles on Steam, maybe they figured out Johren is a train wreck and hurts them a lot.
Does anyone know what the FUCK is actually happening with Sumaga?
>>38110561>Denuvo>0 refund policy>will not restore authenticates even if you contact support>wont accept many types of debit or credit cardsWhy do they think people will buy from them if they're shit in every single aspect? Their site even LOOKS shady. It's real easy to open up nyaa rather than deal with this shit, and there's nothing they can do to stop that from happening.Is it just stupid JP business execs that know nothing about western markets? I know not offering any refunds for any reason is illegal in a lot of European countries
https://retrospring.net/meruchan/a/107581087632644659Meru is apparently translating a BL VN for JAST Blue.
>>38110802>I know not offering any refunds for any reason is illegal in a lot of European countriesThey don't care, they're a japanese company with a japanese store entirely hosted in japan.
>>38110523Holy Maiden didn't have mosaics.
>>38111051All their other stuff did though. Also they weren't very smart about Holy Maiden in general. They pick up the one not-loli title from a loli focused developer and then when people ask about seeing other titles from that developer Meru responds with>We will not be licensing any other titles from this developerMind you this is MONTHS before the english translation is released. I appreciate the honesty but you are really stabbing yourself in the foot if you say>The sales of this title has no impact on getting more titles from this developer
>>38111127They've only done Lamunation, Holy Maiden and some PS4 games so far. I really don't blame them for not wanting to touch their other stuff though. It's not like any other English translated loli focused VNs sold well or better than anything else in the past, plus you have the very, very high chance of Steam banning it making you lose money on it anyway. It makes more financial sense to pick up literally anything else over something that focuses on lolis. At the very least they were honest and upfront about those being a no-go.
One of the JAST staff confirmed more Ueda Metawo is coming.>All I can say for now is there is a lot more Ueda Metawo stuff coming from ushttps://vndb.org/s238
>>38112042It's probably gonna be some new shit so who cares?
>>38109374>most VN's end up getting a fan rewrite by an anon if the translation is badWhat fantasy world did you come from?
>>38111237Maitetsu bombed because Sekai Project fucked up the release with their censorship, which lolicons obviously refuse to tolerate. And yet Maitetsu still managed to get on Steam, so everyone else has no excuse.
>>38112287It's not that easy to get on Steam anymore. Maitetsu came out back in 2018. In 2019 Onikiss and Yotsunoha from Sol Press both got Steam bans and heavily featured lolis. Valve are even heavier handed now in their bans than they were back then.That's why we had things like Evenicle 1 and Kara no Shoujo 1 get on Steam with no problems back in 2018, but their sequels Evenicle 2 and Kara no Shoujo 2 both got bans when they submitted them later even though KnS2 was tamer than the original and Evenicle 2's Steam version was gutted from the Japanese original and still got a ban anyway.
>>38112130Yeah, Gore Screaming Show, Minidead Blood, and Gun Katana are all probably too old.
>>38112387Maitetsu Last Run was added to Steam in late 2020.
>>38112521In chinese though. Pretty sure it's ironically easier to get a VN through the chinese approval team than it is the english.
>>38112521The problem with Steam is they are horribly inconsistent and won't outright tell you what is or isn't allowed. There are plenty of examples of things tamer than Maitetsu getting banned, or sometimes even things without an R18 version in existence being banned too. There's also things that make it on there that make you wonder how they slipped through. That's the real problem here. All Valve will tell you is that after review they decided your game featured exploitation of minors with no elaboration and that you can not resubmit that game even with changes ever again. One strike and you're out. You want more companies to start bringing stuff over with lolis then great. But first you'll need to convince Valve to start giving explicit rules on what is or isn't allowed so companies aren't scared shitless to license those things in the first place, then convince people that enjoy lolis to actually buy those VNs in the first place to show support. As it stands now, licensing anything with lolis, little girls, or characters in school uniforms means you're more likely to hit that invisible "child exploitation" minefield in the Steam approval process and since so much of all VN sales are on Steam that means hitting that minefield dooms you to lose money.
>>38112594I would rather just have companies realise that Steam isn't the only storefront that exists in the world and that trying to sell censored lolige to the mass market is a retarded idea to begin with. Sekai Project going to the lengths they did to sanitise Maitetsu's Steam release didn't do anything to help it sell to the normalfag market because the normalfag market isn't interested in lolis to begin with, SFW or not.Every company wants to replicate SP's lightning in a bottle success with Nekopara instead of understanding that was a fluke and instead appealing to their niche audience by delivering a competently handled release that the niche audience is willing to repeatedly support.
>>38112625>I would rather just have companies realise that Steam isn't the only storefront that exists>Sekai Project going to the lengths they did to sanitise Maitetsu's Steam release didn't do anything to help it sell to the normalfag market because the normalfag market isn't interested in lolis to begin with, SFW or not.I agree completely with this. The problem is that VN readers and VN buyfags that are willing to pay for their VNs are two very different groups, and of the VN buyfags it seems they are way more willing to pay if a VN makes it on to Steam instead of buying directly from a publisher's own storefront. That's why it seems everyone is so willing to gut, cut or otherwise strip their releases of content or h-scenes just for the chance to make it on to Steam since that's where the vast majority of their sales are coming from. If you want things to start getting better you need to convince those people that are buying from Steam to move over to those third party stores instead. This isn't those companies trying to emulate Sekai's once in a lifetime lighting in a bottle with Nekopara either. Steam is such a huge majority of sales it will always continue to be pushed first because that's where the money is for the average VN release. The push for Steam isn't to try and strike it big with their releases, it's to make sure they're breaking even on their licenses.
>>38112042Give me GSS and Mindead Blood.
>>38112745>The push for Steam isn't to try and strike it big with their releases, it's to make sure they're breaking even on their licenses.I don't know why people keep making this argument as though companies weren't already breaking even with eroge localisations for 20+ years before Steam became an option.
>>38112854You gotta remember anon. Companies don't just want money, they want ALL the money. Hence why Alicesoft split from Mangagamer.
>>38112625I've read the pastebin that was posted in the last thread from Laplacian director. He writes there that while Steam is not the only platform, it's the biggest and sales on other platforms are on average 90% lower than what a maker could expect to get on Steam. That might be not enough to even recoup the cost of translation according to him.The only way this shit gets resolved is if Steam becomes more desensitized towards complaints by shitty troll groups which complain about content they don't like. Instead they try to preempt controversy by self-censoring but that only gives red meat to people who want to control what other people enjoy.There was a twitter thread a week or so ago about how book publishers and game publishers in Japan have started to ignore feminist trolls and that's working: https://twitter.com/Ichiro_leadoff/status/1473647556102332420If only Steam was smart enough to understand that.
>>38112901I would agree on ignoring Feminist trolls. A lot of those accounts are bots anyways and are designed to get a response out of you, distractions and not focusing on the market that is buying your product. For now I would try to put it on JAST and MG stores even GOG as they seem to realize how to ignore a small yet loud minority. Eventually Steam will pivot once they realize no Japanese Hentai companies are having games on their platform and the output is less, they will change their rules much like they did many times before.
>>38112854The types of licenses and volume of releases from official companies 20 years ago compared to today is night and day.
>>38112392I'd guess Necroslave and Puppet Master. It's short and hardly has any voices.https://vndb.org/v3560Sayoko is also fairly short. I believe it works as a standalone and you don't need to play Yami no Koe first.https://vndb.org/v6019They also mentioned a DeadΩAegis fandisk was announced last week but I can't find it mentioned online. They might have licensed that already and be trying for a simul release.
>>38112952Based Laplacian. The original version still exists and there are high effort and low effort methods to read it, no need to depend on a watered down version for the west.
>>38112745> the VN buyfags it seems they are way more willing to pay if a VN makes it on to Steam instead of buying directly from a publisher's own storefront. I would say this is half true. I think it's because Steam basically caused people to think they would not censor and therefore stayed on the platform. For me i only recently made an account on JAST and MG because i am tired of trying to download a Steam game only to find out i need to go off site and find the patch then download it and play it. When i could just create an account on those storefronts, buy it uncensored, then play it normally. I only wish in the future Steam would just allow a 18+ patch DLC thing to uncensor their games, but because they cater to the loud minority we probably will be getting these really mixed releases overall.
>>38112878How did that work out? I am sure they feel stupid right now and realize they are fucked because Steam just wants money, not ALL the money lol.
>>38113721I don't think it's just that. Modern coomsoomers seem to be completely averse to having games that simply work out of the box by double clicking their executables/shortcuts.Instead, they need a fucking LAUNCHER to take care of... opening their games. For fuck's sake.
>>38113811I guess they need launcher to deal with updates, patches, etc. People are to lazy to check the official site.
>>38113819It's not like VNs have that all the time. JP original versions tend to have a 1.01 on day one and maybe a few other bug/script fixes later.And updates can be installed with a simple executable as well, it's not rocket science. Coddling the user with fisher-price tier UI is ruining product design for computers.
>>38113811I think it's the convenience factor like >>38113819 and that is something Steam has above other platforms. Even emulators use this as a quick button press to allow updating software to download off site.
>>38113839Not that anon but even though i do agree. You do have to realize most consumers are idiots by design. The fact they even needed a cell phone to know how to access social media or to do other things kind of proves how dumb they are overall.
>>38113878There's a reason customer support lines make sure the product is plugged in as a first step. People staggeringly stupid
>>38113878The worst thing of it is that your average VN potential consumer, most likely:>Knows about dumb translations and their shitty quality>Knows about Japan and basic cultural elements from it>Knows their way around a computer to at least unzip and copypaste files from a fantranslation>Hates DRMSo they would perfectly be able to buy, download and play a VN from something that isn't fucking Steam.Yet, they cater to a target that wouldn't even consume their product in the first place: Normies don't give a shit about VNs. Nekopara was an exception, and it's not just a VN anyway - it's a bigger beast.
>>38114086The problem is that at least in the Western market people who know their way around computer are much more likely to pirate in the first place.There is no peer pressure to buy like in the Japanese otaku market. There are almost no hardcore buyers who get a particular release for a tokuten, etc.Basically relative normies and impulsive random buyers is where money are in the Western market and those buyers are using Steam pretty much exclusively. No Steam release pretty much means no impulsive buyers and that instantly cuts revenue to a very low point.
>>38114164You got me there. It doesn't help that it's mainly digital versions over here and if there's a physical, it takes eons to show up and pales in comparison to the JP equivalents.
>>38114236No second hand market also has negative impact on introducing new people too. In Japan second-hand stores often enough play important rule of exposing moderately interested people to older games at quite low prices.Digital deals might play similar role but it's not the same.
>>38114164I would agree on this. Piracy is usually because people can not afford it or would like to try it before they buy it. The normals market is wholly catered to Harem, Romcom, Yuri, Otome, Slice of life. The impulsive buyers I would argue is more of the gameplay market with some VN elements who care more about the Art, Music and Gameplay mechanics than anything else. I think VN studios would need to reorient themselves to try and create two sets of markets one for Eroge(think the uncensored places like JAST and MG) and the other for Lewd(Steam) but nothing really sex related or would have to have implied sex.
>>38114358If Steam continues to tolerate sale or distribution of separate adult patches on other platforms, it might be a good idea for localized eroge distributors to make some sort of collective investment into something more convenient than a bunch of separate stores with patches, maybe in collaboration with something like DLsite as they are working on localized markets nowadays anyway.That way Lewd category could also work for integration with Eroge.
>>38113743>How did that work out?Pretty great actually since DMM bought the western rights to all their non-rance titles and now they don't have to do shit while raking in fucktons of DMM cash even if their titles sell 0 copies.
>>38114625So, are you completely full of shit, or did that actually happen?
>>38114758Well they licensed Dohna Dohna and Evenicle 2 from Alicesoft and completely covered the money already spent localizing Evenicle 2 by Alicesoft. So yeah it's looking like it.
>>38114777>Evenicle 2 from Alicesoft and completely covered the money already spent localizing Evenicle 2 by Alicesoftwhat? I can't find literally anything supporting that
>>38112745>>38112625>>38112594why dont you retards try running your own localization companies if you are that smart?
>>38114844They mentioned it they had more information about Evenicle 2 "Soon" in a reply to a Shiravune Tweet rather than on their own twitter.
>>38114491Yeah that's something i think we can agree upon. It's a common problem every eroge company is facing right now and i think the solution would be one place like DLsite. It might also help if games kind of mentioned in some way that the game is censored and needs to be patched for the full version so as to not spread confusion to those that think they are playing the full game when they are not.
>>38114870Are you talking about this? Because that's not what that ishttps://twitter.com/Alicesoft_en/status/1451384041953894401?t=X6WyXgAqYLxy-QfDCQCxDg&s=19
>>38114986Pretty clearly that's exactly what it is. I'd love to be wrong, I really really would since that'd mean we'd have a much higher chance of getting an unfucked release but it's pretty damning.
>>38113406What about Extravaganza?
Pardon the rec request but I haven't played a VN in over a decade, just finished Clannad there. I really enjoyed it, but where do I go from here? The landscape has changed so much, I feel disorientated. /jp/ has changed a lot too, from how I remember it.
>>38116829Little Busters would be the obvious choice since it's the next (good) game Key made. There's also a /vn/ general over on /vg/ for discussing translated VNs if you just want to see what other people are playing. Right now Nine, Muramasa, WA2, and Mashimaro are very popular.
>>38117035>WA2People are actually reading that horrible TL?
>>38117142People don't seem to care about TL quality anymore.
>>38117035thanks, i was clicking around /jp/ and I couldn't find the exact right thread. Is the Kanon fan translation any good? I watched the adaptation when it released but I basically remember nothing beyond enjoying it.
>>38117294It's passable. If you've ever watched an anime with the kind of fansubs they used to have back in the day, you'll be fine. It's a bit on the stiff side and frankly would have benefited from just a bit more editing, but there's nothing particularly outrageous... except this.
>>38117334I think there's a kind of nostalgic feeling from the old stiff translations so that's fine.
>>38114986>>38114625>Johren>DMMWell in this case I can go pirate their games because those two places paid for my copies.
>>38115027No? Someone was badgering them about Evenicle 2 in the comments of a post QRTing a Shiravune post, since they were both promoting Dohna Dohna together. You made it sound like Alicesoft replied to a random Shiravune tweet saying, "you'll hear more about Evenicle SOON™" while winking at Shiravune. There is literally no proof that Shiravune/DMM licensed or paid for anything from Alicesoft other than Dohna Dohna. Don't be such a defeatist.If they actually announce that it's being released by Shiravune/DMM/Johren/whoever the fuck DMM sockpuppets as, then pirate the shit out of it and whine at them on Twitter, there's nothing else you can do.
Any loli eroge getting translated?
>>38114986They have been silent for a while now
>>38122899>You made it sound like Alicesoft replied to a random Shiravune tweet saying, "you'll hear more about Evenicle SOON™" while winking at Shiravune. It's wild what a person can come up with these days when it comes to rumor mills and a social media post lol.
>>38131197That's how brainless eops acts while wasting their little brainpower on NOT learning japanese. They come up with retarded rumors and make shit it all the fucking time.It's hilarious sight.
>>38129433Again, not the same thing as literally confirming a licensing partnership, retroactively funding an in-house TL in exchange for said license, and licensing their entire non-Rance catalogue. How does silence = a massive new DMM partnership?>>38131197I don't even know why I bothered looking for evidence. It was so obviously not true, and yet I wasted 10 minutes of my life combing through Twitter. I'm gonna go torrent Primal x Hearts to make up or it.
>>38137340That Meru likes two pairs of balls blowing in the wind.
The only thing AS will do in the west is translate their gacha
Dead Aegis Gaiden is supposed to be read after the main game?
>>38143720Gaiden means side-story so it often could work without the main story in general, although spoilers are likely.I'm not sure about this particular game though.
>>38143720I'm not sure how it's supposed to be, but I read gaiden before main game and have zero problems about it.
>>38143720I read gaiden after main game and i'm happy.
Any recommendation for recently translated VN with gaming elements ? It doesn't need to have Rance quality, I just want something new.
>>38114358Steam recently doesn't allow even lewd. See Senran and every compa game censorship issue.
>>38149247Those Dawn of Kagura games seem like the most recent ones. They do look painfully generic though. Have you tried Dohna Dohna yet?
>>38149549Even without rape theme I heavily dislike its look. The color in particular looks like something that could give me epilepsy.
>>38149870You could try Venus Blood I guess, hasn't been much else lately. Titles with gameplay are still rare because they take so much time.
>>38110454Sign me up!
>>38144158>>38144343>>38149051Thanks. Started with main game and the OST is pretty kickass during the first transformation scene. Premise is like madoka + starship troopers.
>>38155770Enjoy. Game is good, but my guess it's flopped hard. I barely see any discussion even on jast server, almost no new votes on vndb. And no one gives enough fuck to even upload pirated copy to usual websites.
>>38158022Didn't Sadistic Blood flop too? They don't really do a good job showing what kind of games these are, people probably think it's the same as all the other crap nukige they've done recently like the Chaos-R stuff.
>>38108461>>Tsukihime - A piece of blue glass moon - Arcueid Day 1-5 partial patch released, day 6 though 8 translatedHow is this moving so fast? Is it just edited MTL? Nasuverse translations always end up being shit, how does this compare?
>>38158022I really like the guys art, but I couldn't care less about the subject material.
>>38158022I'm really burnt out on Guro so I ended up skipping it.
>>38158680>Didn't Sadistic Blood flop tooDunno, i see tons of votes on vndb for it, but at the other hand sadistic blood has been on sale for a couple of years, so can't really compare.>>38159391There is close to no guro in dead end aegis, like two cg in a whole game.
>>38159404It's tagged with Gore on the jast store page for it so I never bothered. I just don't have the mental fortitude currently to deal with anything that isn't cute and fluffy.
>>38158022>>38158680I bought it. Because I want to support stuff that's not moege #14567. But I guess people are put off by the guro tag, even though it's mild in this case.
>>38159438Yeah, i'm not saying there is no guro at all. Just very few scenes with it, especially compared to guro fest in sadistic blood
>>38158680Yeah, their site is pretty shit. If they're gonna sell a guro game then the screenshots ought to advertise that it's a guro game. The only way you'd even know that about Sadistic Blood from JAST's store page is to take note of the content warning in the description, which just makes no sense from a marketing perspective.
>>38159260>Is it just edited MTL?Obviously.
>>38112901>This Tweet is from a suspended account.???
>>38159942Isn't almost every fanTL MTL these days?
>>38163623Professional TLs too use MTL
>>38159260They were unabashadly MTL at first but now after some traction they walked it back to: "o-oh we found some guys that know Japanese and they're helping now"And we all know what that actually means.
>>38113406We have reviewed that one. It's not the best game but perfectly functional as a nukige. Sadly there is not much emotional investment in a heroine that constantly is revived.
>>38114845I want to do that, but it isn't easy without funds.
>>38149247Suzukuri Dungeon, Eiyu Senki GOLD, Seinarukana and similars. Yumina the Ethereal too.
>>38108461I see you removed Hokenshitsu no Sensei a couple months ago. I messaged the translator back in October but he never answered or approved the comment so yeah looks like a dead project. Back when he blogposted his progress I told him he was going too fast and burning himself out. He denied that. Sad it really happened.>>38117334Looks like they messed up the TL note trigger there. Yours is even more messed up. Not in JP locale? The translation is good btw.>>38111127>They pick up the one not-loli title from a loli focused developerStill spreading that lie. Have you ever actually looked through Yoru no Hitsuji's list of games? Yes they made many lolige, but they also made many non-lolige. The ratio might even be 50-50.I'll agree that that dumb bitch Meru picked one of the worst YnH games though. And her not picking up more games even other non-lolige is a shit move because certain fantranslators won't touch YnH now. And the only YnH lolige translation has been dead for years with only the first part translated.
>>38168097their Loli titles sold better
>>38168097Do people actually like this art style?
>>38158680>Didn't Sadistic Blood flop too?Seems like it flopped on release but did alright after a few months. The JAST staff began correcting people on discord who called it a flop.
>>38171579Is a classic and what matter in these games is the writting; above average compared witho your modern moeges.
>>38167241>I want to do that, but it isn't easy without funds.You should have plenty of funds if you're that smart. If you don't have funds, then you're probably that smart either and your localization company going to flop. Xev thought he knows better too, after all.
>>38172510Are Shiravune's releases actually good? All I know is that Dohna Dohna appeared to be on the liberal side.
>>38172510Huh. Nice surprise. I like announcements that are for games coming out in just some days and not 999999 years.>>38173175At least tech wise they're good. Games even run on my old linux toaster using wine.
>>38116829>>38117035>Little Busters would be the obvious choiceYes, please play it. Best VN of all time for me.
>>38173175>Are Shiravune's releases actually good?They are good unless you're buyfag or anti-mosaic retard.
>>38174628>they're good if you don't pay for itPretty much true for anything though.
>>38159260Since the scripts are open source, you can check yourself https://github.com/Tsukihimates/Tsukihime-Translation/tree/main/script
>>38175414>Pretty much true for anything though.Not really, sekai releases still sucks even if you don't pay for them. Same for NN trash.
>>38175414Nope. Just last month SP released a game that was so broken that they even fucked up the credits.
>>38175414They're worth the money they ask for them, just not worth going through their site to do it.
Can the Chinese even access and buy from Johren? Considering they don't release their stuff on Steam but they always include a Chinese translation
>>38176811I would think so. Who else would they it for? The Taiwanese market?
>>38179473Are they using traditional or simplified Chinese?If traditional then it's for Hong Kong and Taiwan.If simplified then it's for the mainland.
What's your ideal translation for this?Original line (after receiving answers to an upcoming test in advance from her): > 花子様!There's the obvious "just keep the honorific" and if the reader is a weeb they will obviously get it if you type "Hanako-sama!"But if the reader isn't a weeb I'm not sure what you do. "Thank you so much!"/"I'm not worthy!" express the gratitude and elevation but aren't very good on a literal scale. The meme slang translation is "Queen!"/"You're [a/my] Queen!" which has similar connotation but obviously that's not actually what sama means.And then there's the problem that if it's a voiced line in a VN the reader will hear "Hanako-sama!" and weeb readers might not like less literal or honorific-dropping translations.What do you think is best?
>>38181666>But if the reader isn't a weebIf they're reading VNs, they're a weeb.No idea why people insist on removing honorifcs. I have NEVER seen anyone complain about a translation they're reading containing honorifics.
>>38181666what kind of person reads visual novels but doesn't know what honorifics are?
>>38181687Yeah, I do personally think "Hanako-sama!" is how I would translate it for a VN fan-translation.I'm just trying to see if there's any other good option that doesn't require all the background context. Maybe there isn't.
>>38181666Just keep the honorific, retard.
>>38181687It depends? I know what the honorifics mean, but I honestly prefer, if possible, when they're removed and the sentences are written with the honorific used in mind. No honorifics in an improper situation? Make them use less polite words or put some mild slang in there to show they're being rude. Overly polite? Use really wooden, formal English. I don't know why you anons need to see the Japanese terms transcribed to English, you already know it's there from the voice lines.
Is the GOG version of Muramasa the 18+ one?
>>38181687>I have NEVER seen anyone complain about a translation they're reading containing honorifics.Plenty of people whine about Persona doing it. Ironically, Persona 3 and 4 both went to the lengths of replacing various honorifics with more familiar ones for mass appeal, eg. Yukaricchi being changed to Yuka-tan.On the other hand, no one cares about Yakuza doing it, especially now that they've separated the game into subtitles and dubtitles options.>>38182073>No honorifics in an improper situation? Make them use less polite words or put some mild slang in there to show they're being rude.Now think for a second about what you would do if a character addresses another character without honorifics, and they only decide to talk about it annoying them after it's already been done for hours. If you write in the character suddenly being rude to give the other one something to complain about, you're changing the dialogue from a persistent niggle to a sudden irritation.All you do with this shit is create problems for yourself for no reason.
>>38176554>They're worth the money they ask for themMaybe if it was uncensored and DRM free. Something with mosaics isn't worth more than $4
>>3818207517+ according to vndb.
>>38176811It seems that johren.net (all ages titles only) can be accessed from China, but johren.games (the 18+ site, where most of their releases are) is blocked, according to my tests using Chinese proxies.Now actually being able to buy from the site is a different story.
>>38182089Those are just suggestions. Obviously context would dictate how you'd do this, if it all. I don't necessarily think the best option is just romanizing something instead of actually translating it. People that insist that you do this come off like cringy Nihon #1 weeaboos.rt8v4
>>38182200Go ahead and provide a single reason to remove honorifics that isn't "I don't want to learn the meanings of a few dozen words that will be shared across thousands of pieces of media". As already said, you only create problems for yourself by doing so. You don't need to awkwardly write around honorifics all the time if you just don't remove them for no reason in the first place.
>>38182232Like I said, I already know them. What I don't like is the presumption that removing honorifics ruins the meaning of the sentence. Do you know what editors do, anon? Would you prefer The Witcher had random bits of Polish in it because the translator thought it read better IN ENGLISH that way?
>>38182321I don't think the problem is removing honorifics, the problem is removing honorifics when there's an important dynamic around them in the story that also isn't rewritten so now you either end up with a situation completely neutered because the translator decided to remove the entire the thing from existence rather than attempt to convey it in english or you end up with the scenario where they remove honorifics but don't remove conversations around it.Examples for the latter being>Hi Risa, I had a good time at the party last night>Um.. You know, if you want to call me Risa, I wouldn't mind..>Okay, I'll call you Risa then.Where you'd have no fucking idea what's going on if you don't know japanese/know they removed honorifics because the heroine says the protagonist can call her the same he's been calling her for the entirety of the novel.An example of them obliterating everything related to honorifics at the cost of a character would be Gurigura from Evenicle who lost an immense amount of characterization with the removal of honorifics because rather than localize her dynamic way of addressing people based on whether they're friends/family/strangers (an extremely important part of her character by the way) the translator instead made her call people the same thing the entire way through.
>>38182321>Do you know what editors do, anon?Ruin the translator's work, mostly.> Would you prefer The Witcher had random bits of Polish in it because the translator thought it read better IN ENGLISH that way?Sure, I'm not scared of being confronted with scary foreign words that I don't know.
>>38174628>they're good unless you doesn't count the drm, mosaics and shitty translations that half time are fixed by random anons.I agree.
>>38182400If it fucks up something in a way that's not easy to fix, then don't remove them. I did say "if possible", not "remove them in every case every single time".>>38182432Why would you leave random bits of Polish in an English translation if those words can be translated. It's not a matter of "scary foreign words", it's about translating the damn text properly. Do you like "All according to keikaku*," anon?
Your fault is expecting a good job from an industry that keeps overworking and underpaying its translators.
>>38182630honestly, if a lot of pirates paid for shit, profits wouldn't be as low as they are, and budgets would most likely be higher. That said, I'm not gonna pay for a shitty release, or literally anything from Sekai or NekoNyan. You don't get to be shitheads and not have it come back to bite you in the ass.
>>38182552That's the problem with most american translations: they try to "adapt" the culture with localizing stuffs that shouldn't be. As an example changing character names, town names, regional meals for more well know meals, rewriting non-ethical dialogues (sexism, jokes about fags, lolis), etc...
>>38182741>That said, I'm not gonna pay for a shitty release, or literally anything from Sekai or NekoNyan. You don't get to be shitheads and not have it come back to bite you in the ass.this.
>>38182552>Why would you leave random bits of Polish in an English translation if those words can be translated. It's not a matter of "scary foreign words", it's about translating the damn text properly. Do you like "All according to keikaku*," anon?Why are you using random words that can be translated as your Polish argument when you're making a comparison to Japanese words that can't be translated? Keikaku is obviously not part of this discussion. You wouldn't be arguing in bad faith now, would you?
>>38182832Personally, I don't think you should ever touch names. Calling onigiri rice balls is fine, as is just leaving them as onigiri, but the infamous jelly donut shit is dumb. Leave the cultural references alone unless they're so obscure western readers won't get them on average, and adapt stuff like kanji puns that are literally impossible to understand unless you know JP and kanji.
>>38182875It's almost like actively pissing on your customer base is a bad idea in niche markets where piracy is a very accessible alternative. Who would've guessed?
>>38182954I was talking in general. After all most big companies love to redically localize their stuff like Nintendo usually do; pokemon games localizations or removing gender spech or selection (usa version of Animal Crossing) would be an example.
>>38182931You're moving the goalposts. Honorifics can be translated, just not literally and in a 1:1 word sense. Character voice is a thing, and honorific usage should reflect on each character's voice. Not everything should be translated word by word, literally, 1:1. Doing this results in a shitty, unreadable mess.
>>38182630eh, anyone working in VNs is a bottom of the barrel translator, if they were any good they'd be earning much more in other fields of JP translation. they are paid appropriately for their skill level.
>>38182975>where piracy is a very accessible alternativeI think you mean>Where piracy is almost always the more customer friendly alternativeSince you don't need to go hunting down restoration patches or fan-patches since most pirated releases tend to include all available patches whereas official releases often require you to navigate to some random third-party website and download stuff from there to get all of the content you paid for.
name honorifics are no different from first-person pronouns and honorific prefixes which nobody leaves in because they sound dumb even to weebsleave them in if you're a megaweeb who wants to read a pidgin of japanese and english rather than a true english translation (I do in fact prefer honorifics) but please don't pretend removing them is "incorrect"
>>38183094No, they sound less way dumb as a small girl calling you brother, brokon or brotector or MC calling sempai by his first name.
>>38183110if omae really wants to read a VN where japanese words are just liberally worked in everywhere watashi won't stop you but it's in fact infinitely dumber than people calling senpai by name in a localized work
>>38183131Yes, Bob. Let's remove all the cultural references and japanese costums for good shit prose and from these weeb noovels. Or even better, converting 'em to WN would da better (like macross to robotech), wan cha?
>>38183155removing nihongo kotoba from an eigo honyaku is a kitte mo kirenai part of the translation process because that's literally what translation is about: removing words from the original language and replacing them with the new one. any nihongo word omae leaves in produces a mikansei translation even if omae really thinks that removing konna japanese word or anna japanese word produces an incalculable loss in meaning. comparing it to removing japanese clothes from a CG is utterly retarded.
>>38183059>You're moving the goalposts. Honorifics can be translated, just not literally and in a 1:1 word sense.The fucking irony.
>>38183224Ok Apolo, but not everyone love to eat prefabricated burgers. Keep that in mind.
>>38183155Do you use leave Spanish conjugations of words in when you translate Spanish to English if they use usted or tú? No, nobody does that because that's fucking stupid.
>>38183240what you want to be reading is japanese, which you're perfectly free to do. you don't have to read an english translation with japanese words left in to get that experience. wanting japanese left in is in fact a perfectly valid preference, just as you might prefer steak to burgers, but it's in fact 100% perfectly valid for people to serve burgers to people who want to eat them.
>>38183259No, but I wouldn't localize names, meals or typical ragional accents/expressions. Or would you change "Ole!" to "hi ya!" /matador to "killer" in a scene related to bulls?All depend of context but there's always parts that "should" be leave as it is.
>>38183298>No, but I wouldn't localize typical ragional accents/expressions.How could you *possibly* avoid localizing a kansai or hiroshima accent in English. What are you gonna do, just leave yades and kens in the translation?
>>38183324Adding some (very light) variations in the speechs. Yes, isn't as easy to do as it seems but if you're a good translator (and not pressed with time) you could pull it. Yes, I know that this isn't 100% perfect accurate but is still better than leaving it as a plain/neutrished text.If my memory isn't wrong even Yakuza did something like that.
>>38183370>Adding some (very light) variations in the speechs.What you're describing is literally accent localization.
>>38183298I'm not sure why you're bringing that up. Usted/tù is the closest another language gets, that I know of, to JP honorifics. The fact that nobody peppers SP->EN TLs with mentions of either (unless they're literally switching to Spanish in the script) should clue you in to how leaving in parts of another language's structure is viewed by translators in general. Do you really think professional JP->EN translators that work for businesses translating speeches, statements and booklets leave in honorifics? Do you think the average English speaker even knows what the fuck onii-chan means?You people can just admit that you like having the honorifics in. You don't have to be correct to like something being done a certain way. I like pickles on grilled cheese sandwiches. Is that how you traditionally make a grilled cheese? No. Should I demand everyone make grilled cheeses with pickles because I personally like them that way? No. I just eat my fucking sandwich and move on with my life. If I couldn't have pickles on my grilled cheese anymore, would I go on the internet and complain about it? No, I don't care enough to waste my time on that.
>>38183411Witness the food analogy retard as he has all the pieces to understand that different approaches to translation with different target audiences have inherently different levels of accuracy, but still fails to actually grasp this concept.
>>38183399Yes, and that's not impossible to do. koestl handled Amane from Grisaia speaking in Kansai-ben by changing it to a southern-esque drawl, if I remember correctly. That properly conveyed to the reader that she wasn't speaking in "normal" or "standard" English.
>>38183399That's how usually decent translator localize "dialects".>>38183411>mixing ustedes/tuCalling someone by tu/you is frowned in many countries unless you aren't close to the interlocutor. Also it seems that you're forgeting that internacionally there's 2 ways of translating to spanish (or viceversa); neutral (most used by latino) and spanish from spain (better flow but with some regional overlocalizations)
>>38183452Yes, and you weebs are not the target audience most of the time. Again, going by normal language translation standards, what you view as correct is wrong. Addressing someone as "sama" or "herr" or "señor" in English is a sign of respect for the other person's culture and language. It has nothing to do with the validity of translation methods. You don't use non-English words in proper English unless it's a loan word. Is it sometimes better to leave that stuff in if removing it is too confusing? Yes. Is it then correct to use them in English, even then? Objectively, no. Japanglish is not English.
>>38183542Not him but yes; manga, LN and VN audience love theses honorifics. Most of the hater are tourist/normalfags who find them alien and want them removed.
>>38183499I know the differences between usted and tú, I just grouped them together because they both mean "you". It's about familiarity (tú for well-known and casual, usted for meeting new people and politeness) and respecting one's betters or elders (always usted), which is relatively similar to how Japanese honorifics work. And yes, I do know that there are differences between Spain Spanish and Latin American Spanish.
>>38183627I'll correct your in some point; you can't speak to the elders by "tu" or either "ustedes." The former you should know why and the later because it looks to frivolous. The correct way would be calling them by their second name unless they allow to call them by the first. Adding to it sir/sra would be ideal if the spech is buisness-like.
>>38181666Anyone who knows about Japan and anime (i.e. VN target audience, normies don't play them) will at the very least know -san, -chan and -sama.Leave it as it is.
Anything good come out the past 5 years?
>>38183837Yes. Covid forced japs to be more open to the west (for some extra bucks) and now we're getting more VNs each year.
>>38183452>have inherently different levels of accuracyThe more Japanese you leave in, the more accurate it will be, at the expense of being more inaccessible (literally untranslated portions) or idiotic-sounding (unnatural literalist bricks). That does not make it inherently correct to leave in more Japanese. Actual translation does not work with accuracy uber alles.>>38183474>>38183499I mean, yes, sure, but I'm responding to someone who said "I wouldn't localize typical regional accents" so it's really not clear what that person was trying to get at.
>>38183716Thanks, I made it to Spanish 3 in school but ended up forgetting a lot of it. So, you'd basically call your elders, by default, by their last names unless you know they want you to do otherwise? Sounds like it would get confusing at family gatherings.
>>38183851>>38183870I saw Muv Luv getting a couple new sequels. The localization paid off huh?
>>38183874If you aren't close (or don't want) to you familiars then usually adding some status abbreviation to the first name would do the job.As you see it's simil to english with the difference that they have more abbreviations, less pronouns due the entonations per se already can tell you the gender/diversity and the gramar structure is kinda reversed from english (same as in japanese).But yeah, the spanish phrases are kinda... waaaay to long for my taste.
No text, properly translated, will have parts of the source language in it, excluding loan words, names and locations in the target language. The point is to make it fully readable in the target language, not to leave vestigial bits of the source language in the script.Look at this, specifically in the section about Thaihttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untranslatability#Register Keeping that structure, or even literally translating the content, to preserve the context from the source language would come across as nonsense or Engrish. You don't break rules in the target language in order to preserve the meaning from the source language, unless the source language also broke a similar rule in its own language.Just say "I'm a weeb and I like honorifics," it's pretty easy to admit.
>>38184020Sorry for the generic white person comparison, but like in Coco, where everyone calls Coco Mamá Coco?
>>38184065Not him but for kids the usual way would be to call her as Coco mama or by her first name, for adults that doesn't know her as Coco mother or second name plus honorific and for the ones who know her the later or first name.I guess that all depends of the context and tl interpretation.By the way, who the fuck is Coco?
>>38184034>I'm a weeb and I like honorificsanon this is a thread on a board called /jp/ about a very niche medium that appeals exclusively to weebs, why are you pretending like this is a gotcha
>>38182321>Would you prefer The Witcher had random bits of Polish in it because the translator thought it read better IN ENGLISH that wayThere's absolutely nothing wrong with that and you'd be in the know if you actually read some books
>>38182440Moege doesn't need good translation, retard.
Remember how starting with 2 the AAA game series Assassin's Creed started leaving random words and phrases and titles in different languages throughout games that were otherwise presented in English, and how everyone threw a shitfit over this because it was butchering the English language?Yeah, me neither.
Frankly, this is embarrassing how we are arguing the same shit 10 years later we have argued this enough and are eternally going in circles. Just be satisfied with what you get as the ideal experience is impossible in translation. Frankly, what you.miss out on is nothing substantial. Some names that are In reference to what the text is already telling you in multiple ways. Even what the JOP crowd dubs as #Goodluckeops are mostly inconsequential little easter eggs. Only in truly JP culture centric games like Akairo or Itsusora this stuff is remotely relevant to get the plot.
>>38187142>Only in truly JP culture centric games like Akairo or Itsusora this stuff is remotely relevant to get the plot.Who's arguing about it being relevant to the plot? What it's relevant to is characterisation.
>>38187155You can infer the characterization from attitude and choice of words. Honorifics are literally overt politeness but that doesn't mean without them that there is none. Some thIngs do not have to be mentioned to know they exist. Otherwise you would need to use every subject too, smth which is omitted in Japanese more than often. You could even do a little rewrite and establish relationships with smth like "They are always so polite with each other" or "We have always talked on an even level" or "the way she addresses me makes me feel subservient". expository sentences go a long way and JP uses them quite frequently too. You could also tell in exposition how age differences affect politeness levels.
>>38187213Good job completely missing possibly the most important sentence in that image:>You could argue "well, that will be evident over time"-but the point is that in the source material it's evident immediately.This also goes all the way back to >>38182232>You don't need to awkwardly write around honorifics all the time if you just don't remove them for no reason in the first place.
>>38186403Are you an idiot? Moege especially need good translation because the language and its quirks are very important in producing and maintaining right emotions towards characters.It's easy to translate cheap story twists if translator is not total moron. It's very hard to translate character interactions in a way that doesn't damage them at least somewhat.
>>38187292>right emotions towards charactersThey all acts like a fucking robots in moege, they all pretty bland and generic and moege> It's very hard to translate character interactions in a way that doesn't damage them at least somewhat.This is not wa2 retard, there is nothing to damage to begin withOnly thing moege can and will lose is some random lame wordplay, but nothing special compared to actually good non-moege titles with decent writing
Maybe if VNs weren't bloated pieces of shit with fucked pacing full of routes where the MC is stuck in bed I'd stop pirating them. If a shounen manga did this sorta shit the mangaka would be blacklisted
>>38183916The trilogy did, everything afterwards sold pretty poorly comparatively. I opted to pirate everything after the trilogy because they really fucked up the trilogy and were too cheap and lazy to unfuck it so I went back to pirating everything.
>>38188115yes shounen manga are famous for their lack of bloat and great pacing loooool
>>38188345Still miles better than any VN
>>38188449Shonen mangaka generally don't even know when their work is ending let alone how they'll be getting there.
>>38188653and VN writers deliberately drag shit out as much as possible so the VN can be marketed as being long
>>38188720And shonen mangaka stretch things out for years if not decades exclusively because the editors told them to.I'm not saying pacing problems aren't a huge problem in VNs, I'm saying shonen manga as a positive comparison is silly.
>>38188115>>38188720Maybe you just do not like VN's and LN? Have you ever thought of that?
>>38188892>And shonen mangaka stretch things out for years if not decades exclusively because the editors told them to.They still have to keep things entertaining enough to actually keep people reading>>38188975I like VNs, but this is literally the whole reason VNs are dead. Why spend your time reading about a guy stuck in bed when you can play bing bing wahoo instead?
>>38189003You're arguing something completely different now, being entertaining isn't the same as having tight pacing. The biggest anime series are episodic for a reason.
Ah yes, the eternal honorifics debate. I was almost starting to miss it.Almost.
>>38189172Well it does keep the thread alive I guess.
>>38187142 Like 95% of VNs has it. And it happens in nearly every route ever, but its better to have multiple butchered scenes per VN than to lose a debate right?
>>38189320Was Hapymaher the VN where having the English version is literally better than the Japanese version due to a missing scene?
>>38108461>Gore Screaming Show - Prologue + day 1 patch released, 27,28% [10200/37383] lines translatedIs the translator ok?
C;H Noah when?
>>38183916The official version of the trilogy is worse than the fanTL one and all the fandisc have sjw-tier translation + no ero.
>>38195564I thought English Hapymaher was better because the Japanese one was filled with typos and grammatical errors. I might be confusing it with something else though.
https://www.gog.com/partner/jastDamn, they're big enough to have their own sale now.
>>38196010They don't include chapters in progress. And current chapters in progress are routes which are big. >Akane: 20% [???/6063] >Kiika: 70% [???/6416] This is the progress above aforementioned 27,28%So I'd still prefer if jast translates it one day.
>>38204772Ehh, I meant 'though', not 'so'.
>>38203228Got a hearty laugh out of me. I'm not worthy to read his machine translation.
>>38203228>Happy New Years everyone, it's the year of the Tiger, which hopefully means that Amerikkka (North Cuba) will be devoured by the Tiger of the East (The Superior China).>Contrary to rumors, I am selective not because of money but because of race. In life, race means everything. Race predetermines your failures and your successes, it means that whites are predetermined to lose by their genetics.Incorrigibly based.
>>38203228Yeah but where the fuck is Biman 4, aka the actually good one?
>>38204975How do you know that one is actually good?
>>38208787It's the one with a trap protagonist and incest.
>>38188115>where the MC is stuck in bedStop playing nukige then?
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/sex_and_nudity_sells_so_be_just_like_steam/GOG users losing it over VNs on GOG.
>>38211133New thread up with the updates for this week
Store top promotional banner shows two games that I'm not even allowed to see the store pages for. Cool site, GOG.