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What was the Touhou community like before the extreme boom in popularity?
Touhou already existed like a decade before the huge boom in popularity. What were the threads like back before 2005? What were the discussions like?
When did the west first pick up on Touhou?
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>>33327720
I've seen this question asked before, and I can't remember the answers given.
There was a small thread for it a year or two ago. That or a few months back.
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>>33327720
>>33327754
Was Touhou popular BEFORE the Windows games?
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>>33327899
Yes. It picked up at EoSD. PC-98 had *some* notoriety.
EoSD was the first windows era game for touhou and one of the first for the new windows OS era, so it was bound to kick off anyway.
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>>33327927
>one of the first for the new windows OS era
Interesting. I’d never considered that as part of why eosd became *the* big touhou game but that being one of the contributing factors makes perfect sense.
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>>33327720
Anyone knows what is the oldest Touhou doujinshi?
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>>33328461
I have no clue.
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>>33327720
There were no Touhou threads in 2005.
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>>33328461
I just checked sadpanda and from a quick glance it seems that the earliest they've got are 3 non-H Touhou doujinshi released during Comiket 64 (August 2003) which is also when IN was released.
One is a mostly SDM doujin centered around Meiling, another is an EoSD general doujin, and the final one is mostly focused on the IN trial as well as some PCB content. Now here are some random autistic observations.
Every character present in EoSD appear in all 3 doujins, save for Rumia and Meiling who appear in 2, and the midbosses.
While every non-midboss from EoSD and the IN trial make at least one appearance, the only characters who originated from PCB that are featured are Letty, Youmu, Yuyuko, and Chen. On top of that, Letty appears in 2 while the rest only appear in 1, and Chen's appearance is limited to an end book illustration.
None of the midboss only characters make any appearance, with a possible off model exception for Koakuma in pic related.
At least 2 of the doujin artists are active online and continue to draw, albeit not for doujins as far as I can tell, and on occasion draw Touhou. One of those 2 mainly draws vtubers now.
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>>33328461
There's one from December, 2002 called Septentrion for a Dead Princess, by Room of Curses.
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I made the first few touhou threads on /jp/ in 1999.
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>>33331999
4chan doesn't exist before 2002 so what site were you even on?
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>>33332039
That post is probably satirical but I wonder if anybody actually talked about Touhou on English net before EoSD.
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>>33331999
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>>33330305
>One of those 2 mainly draws vtubers now.
Of course. What a FUCKING JUDAS.
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>>33331999
Whoa.
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>>33330305
>One of those 2 mainly draws vtubers now.
lol
I bet money they probably did KanColle beforehand.
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I know ZUN hosted some fanart on his real old blog before. Here's some vintage 2003 Cirno
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>>33344093
Whoa, that's cool.
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>>33329456
there must have been on whatever japanese forums discuss everything that is released at comiket
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>>33344030
And F*te like every other phony.
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>>33343993
Do you have the image of /jp/ on Usenet? There's thread discussing Mystic Square. Very rare image I lost.
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>>33344980
It's still funny (not in a comedic sense) when you see other cases of it.
I forgot which artist did, but they switched from making Touhou content to doing Fate, and then they went back to doing Touhou because their Fate material didn't sell very well. It wasn't too long ago either. Not by /jp/ standards.
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>>33330943
Apparently that is the first Touhou doujin. Meh, I guess there were no PC-98 era doujinshi after all.
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>>33345214
There's PC98 era arranges though.
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>>33344030
>>33344980
Actually they only drew a handful of Kancolle pics and no Fate images that I can find. Their artistic phases seem to have gone from mostly Touhou, to Idolmaster while still doing some Touhou drawings and doujins somewhat regularly until 2019, where their regular content then started to become just vtubers and some idols.
The artist in question is Hikawa Shou, maybe you're already familiar with them.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/4577/artworks
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>>33331999
1999 GET
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>>33345243
Recorded before 2002? I would like to listen. I only have touhou doujin music going back to 2004.
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>>33345767
I saw a thread about this a few years ago, I can't find it in the archive, unfortunately, it was a really interesting one.
This may or may not be the very first Touhou arrange ever.
https://files.catbox.moe/3asfcz.7z
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>>33345980
Nice. I like it.
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>>33346062
I think it's from when Geocities Japan was shutting down. It's good that people save stuff, isn't it?
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>>33346171
All these PC-98 Touhou geocities japan pages lost forever....
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>>33346922
There's archives of Geocities Japan on archive.org, maybe there's still a handful in there?
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old 2hu art contains special magical properties
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>>33329456
Nigger you outed yourself with this. Even when the site first started there was touhou discussion, but it was nothing like now. Way back in the day Samidare was more popular among the casuals because it was easier
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I wonder if there were a 2hu thread on text board before 4chan exist
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>>33327720
Worse because there were even less actual primaries and memes were a plague.

Never pretend this isn't the case.
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>>33329456
newfag /a/ was full of 2hu
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>>33331999
Congrats you bastard.
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Stardust Reverie was supposedly the first ever doujin album about Touhou. It was released in 2003 at Comiket 64.

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Stardust_Reverie
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>>33352379
Oekaki of someone guessing the silhouette in the cover of PCB, before Yukari was unveiled for the first time.
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>>33327720
Overall it was a lot more secondary and meme-filled.
Also, in the Western community there were very few translations and what existed was pretty low quality, so the lore was either not known at all or completely misunderstood.
It was a lot worse than now but I didn't care because I was younger and have nostalgia goggles.
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>>33367201
>Overall it was a lot more secondary and meme-filled.
Was it really? Back then there was no social media that breeds cancerous memes.
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>>33367230
Maybe myspace but I wasn't that active there
Most of the terrible Touhou memes (Sakuya PADs, Cirno dumb, etc.) predate social media by quite a long time and were a lot more prevalent back then.
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>>33367336
>Most of the terrible Touhou memes (Sakuya PADs, Cirno dumb, etc.) predate social media by quite a long time and were a lot more prevalent back then.
Not really, PADs and dumb Cirno are from 2008-2009 so well post-social media. I'm talking about 2002-2005 stuff.
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>>33367434
I wasn't into Touhou that far back so I don't know.
Touhou had a much smaller Internet presence back then, most of the activity was probably done in doujin circles and events like comiket
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>>33367085
That's a relic.
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>>33367104
It's hard for me to even imagine a time without Yukari.
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>>33367104
>UFO
Fucking prophet! How did he know?
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>>33367104
>UFO
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>>33353335
>Samidare was more popular among the casuals because it was easier
You can't just cruise through the games like you can anything else. I like to think it helped my reaction times and helped with typing somewhat.
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Anymore art from back then?
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>>33367230
You don't need social media for that, the fandom we're talking about and site we're posting on is testaments to that.
Translations were either petty bad or hard to come by, I'd say it's comparatively way easier to play the games and to access so much of the canon side material and avoid the memes nowadays.
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>>33330305
>None of the midboss only characters make any appearance, with a possible off model exception for Koakuma in pic related.
I find that really interesting, along with the rest of your information. Thanks, anon.
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>>33331999
checked, I hate you
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>>33331999
witnessed
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>>33344093
She has a neck like Kenshiro
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>>33406349
Fitting for the strongest
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>>33327720
https://coolier.net/oekaki/191.htm
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>>33414062
Thanks
>2003
huh.
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>>33414062
I feel old.
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>>33428604
You are old.
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>>33329456
But I've been on Wakachan's old Touhou board, Pooshlmer, since late 2004.
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>>33436810
I am impressed, anon. It's good we still have old sages left on this board. What was it like in 2004-05?
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>>33438354
Aside from all the tripfaggots, ECELEB tryhards and kaleido crossies, stroking their cocks allover the fucking place with all their primadonna horseshit...
Honestly, I originally thought it was just a Rozen Maiden board, since that was how I discovered it through a google search and had no idea nor cared for whatever the hell a "Touhou Project" was.
But due to some obscure crossover fangame, Pooshlmer became a shared board for both fandoms, along with the additions of Umineko with Higurashi, included later on. Pic related was actually the very first image I saw on the site.
Of the entire site, I really miss the doujin translation threads, (which were all split off to the Magic Archive Voile site, later on) where from reading FLIPFLOPS and Ishikiriba, that's where I totally fell in love with Sakuya Izayoi's character and appearance for the first time.
Also discovering some of the earliest works from Hole of Yago, Ennui Akatako, Wi-Z GARAGE, Felis Ovum, Sougetsu-tei and even Chado there, was what really shaped my overall feel for Touhou at the time, still too naive to discern what was canon or not.
The fan game translation threads were comfy as well, had some real dedicated 'nameless fairies' where projects didn't take like 5 years to translate. From those were where I first found out about Sengoku Gensokyo, Touhou Pocket Wars, Touhou Labyrinth and Genius of Sappheiros
and Rosenkreuzstilette, due to making this really obscure Touhou reference in Luste's gameover screen.. The only namefag I actually liked there was an this autist Pilpsie, who'd make these massive character dump thread ever so often.
But the site really went to shit quality-wise after the constant slap fests that started when nameless fairies started clashing with the Maidens of Kaleidoscope admins, flooding the site with all their in-board drama and revenge spam. Even the brony shit was less cancerous.
Then following not too long after, would be all these super quality yukuri threads, literally vomit inducing Jissouseki2.0 tier shit, that really made the final nail in the coffin for the site.

But even with the namefags and early /jp/ crossies that that would spam endless Kinzo memes, whenever niggertits was on downtime, the site always had this rather languid pace about that made it super comfy. Along with the OS-tan board, probably hung out
there the longest than pretty much any other place I'd usually frequent on the net. Just doesn't feel the same turning on the PC first thing in the morning, without stopping there anymore.
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>>33436810
>>33440682
i shouldn't be happy, but i am still happy that there are others sharing the pain of not being able to quit imageboards after all these years.
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>>33440682
>niggertits
That term alone brought a ton of memories of all the 4chan alternatives that popped out when it seemed the site was over for real and all their failed memes.
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>>33428604
Everyone will eventually.
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>>33449278
Not if they die young!
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>>33457871
You won't be concerned about feeling young or old afterlife
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Does ZUN shill his work on japanese text board back then? I heard Mr.07 used to talk with people on 2chan before
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>>33345980
Wow what a find, and it's also legitimately good too.
>>33440682
Jesus I haven't heard the term niggertits in literal years.
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>>33440682
I told myself I would read this later.
I still haven't.
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>>33414062
This Rumia is so antique, it was drawn when I was in preschool
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>>33481819
As was this Meiling.
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>>33327720
I was introduced to Touhou by a neo-nazi on The History Channel IRC long before there was a jay.
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>>33486873
>I was introduced to Touhou by a neo-nazi on The History Channel IRC
For a second I thought you meant the History Channel itself. I don't want to laugh, but it's a tad bit funny.
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>>33486873
sounds cozy
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>>33440682
That's a lot of history.
>nameless fairies
people or bots?

>Then following not too long after, would be all these super quality yukuri threads, literally vomit inducing Jissouseki2.0 tier shit
Alright, now that's impressive.
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>>33352379
I argue it's old art in general. When you look at quality stuff then and quality stuff now, you'll see a difference. Oekaki to me is its own thing though.
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>>33496979
Back on Pooshlmer the name space was just nameless fairy instead of anonymous. But I wouldn't be the least surprised if they had bots bumping all those god awful yukkuri threads,
even more obnoxious than when the bantzfags here would make all those sanny template threads. They looked so crude that they were just these really autistic pencil doodles that someone probably drew during their special needs classes.

Now the pre PAD, slutty sanny, honking Chen 2009-2010 memes from back then I could say were a whole lot less obnoxious, mainly because they actually lived out their usage when they should've, before being beaten over and over again like a dead horse.
I think most anons here may have forgotten all about Chugoku, Cho-Marisa, Princess Tenko Ran, big fat Letty, Ex Rumia, KFC, ξ・∀・), wild Merupo, CAVED, Manosuke, but thank god "onee-sama~" Youmu died out right when it did.
Can also recall a few forced memes like "does Alice leak poop?", the Walfas and Iori E stuff and zombie Reimu, due to her greenish skin tone in MoF. A lot of the 2005-2007 doujin artists, right before the pool became so over crowded, had more of tenancy to focus more on their own shtick
or brand of humor rather than just copy-pasting whatever was popular at the time and jumping on bandwagons like meme whores. Like comparing Hole of Yago's old stuff to "life of a maid" is like night and day despite having similar cartoony styles.
He had like this sorta 2×2 = Shinobuden wacky humor, where even one of his own original character was literally this two-headed, Onsokumaru looking, UMA camel, that borrowed the appearances of both Kamachi and Marisa for some reason.
Speaking of colonel_aki, Isikiriba pretty much fathered the whole "wholesome SDM family" before it was ran into the ground and did it right without so many tired gimmicks, with a much cooler Sakuya. But his crack pairing with Sakuya and an obsessed stalker Alice really came out of left field.
Red Tako also had an interesting take on things with the way she portrayed Reimu without being such and overpowered asshole, just a slightly more likable one and more feminine. Also liked the way she'd combine both slapstick with more dark/brutal humor (Remi using pliers to make her fingers more jointed so her hand posing was more "unique").
All and all, you had your share of annoying secondaries (me being among them) back then but at least memes were actually allowed to just die out gracefully before they'd enviably turn out becoming painfully malignant.
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>>33500995
inevitably*
fuckin auto correct.
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>>33500995
I don't think Ex-Rumia is forgotten.
I see it mentioned as a "fan-theory" in recent youtube videos.
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>>33500995
>big fat Letty
I wish that was still a meme haha It'd be really funny and kind of sexy too
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>>33489087
The History Channel's IRC was the fucking wild west. It made current day chans look like Bingo Night at the nursing home.
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>>33500995
Cho-Marisa and Mannosuke live on.
Fat letty and ex-rumia have become normal territory.
as far as i know, walfas mostly died out (thankfully) and only a few dedicated autists stuck with it.
>>33501391
is that greatest freak out ever? lol
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>>33501479
tell me more
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>>33500995
>>33501421
Ex-Rumia was forgotten until a few years ago when Osana Reimu gave it new life.
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>>33502004
Actually be nice to see of them posted a little more often. Even the fangirl Youmu.
>is that greatest freak out ever?
He pops up at the end of Heartful Nekoromancer.

Anyone have that oekaki of Merlin going AWOL, during their Great Funeral Concert "Ghostly Wheel Concerto Grosso" spellcard, with the other sisters taking cover?
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does ZUN post on the internet community website before?
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>>33481369
I'm bumping this thread just so both of us can read this later, together
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>>33507021
I did.
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>>33507069
I just didn't have the time at that moment, but I did.
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>>33502625
>Even the fangirl Youmu.
What's wrong with fangirl Youmu? It isn't even that far-fetched.
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I like going on Danbooru and looking at old Touhou art.
It's the only repository out there for alot of it, since the source of the image is often some old blog that went down ages ago or Geocities.
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>>33500995
I don't think many people that were here back then would have forgotten those memes.
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>>33508066
>Lady Yuyuko. There's no particular reason, but does there need to be?
I guess not, but living your life in servitude to a ghost seems not too far off from stockholm syndrome.





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