Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Gun Days, Higanbana, and other Ryukishi07 worksArchive: https://mega.nz/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ
Had a dream about Rosa today, I love her so much
>>29541288Reminder that Phase 2 was canceled.
Someone just has to convince r07 to quit being such a fag about it. Why do the nips in particular so sensitive about their reality and fiction occasionally overlapping through coincidence?
>Umineko When They Cry>characters actually cryS-sugoi. Anyways, I just finished up chap 2, it got some FSN vibes with the fight scenes of Shannon and Kannon. And then I realized that Beatrice is basically just a Caster summoned by a magus. Her Noble Phantasm are her stakes. The servants created by Kinzo (if chapter 2 character profiles are to be trusted) are practically homunculus too, right? Also, were the omakes in the original VN? Seeing Touhous in my Umineko was quite mindblowing.Pic related is me. Now excuse me for I am going to submit to Beatrice in our next game.
>>29541525>>29541348Because the "good guys CIA" went to Japan to try and create a resistance against the Illuminati by creating counter-subversion mediums to influence "The Expendable Ones" so we could fight back against the pedophile satanist elites. They had to do this out of the USA because the government was already too corrupted (see: assassination of JFK) and needed to do this somewhere else. This is why there is a lot of redpilled anime and so on that seem to predict shit we are going through right now.Who was BT? Probably "good guy CIA".
>>29541726Who are you quoting
>Higurashi Gou is about Rika and Takano realizing that they're actually natural allies and have been fucking themselves by fighting eachotherI mean when you think about it the whole thing is just a giant misunderstanding. Takano wants to understand Hinamizawa syndrome and make herself god, and Rika literally talks to Oyashiro-sama every day and has time travel powers. It's the perfect combination! What would happen if Rika just told Takano everything? She even likes elaborate bullshit stories so she'd totally listen to the whole thing just for fun.
>>29542449who are you quoting?
>>29542499My post in last thread.I also need people to tell me all about BT because I am starting to think he a sort of CIA.
>>29542721People like you are destroying these threads, stop giving him attention you braindamaged crossboarder faggot
>>29542709That post is worded completely different than your post in this thread, next time just link it instead of misusing the quote function
>>29541726what's your problem get out of these threads you're going to get every single major detail spoiled the omakes weren't in the original vn though, no, that's the mod's doing
>>29542853That other anon that worded my posts might have done it because it was a simpler idea of it instead of my schizo ramblings (that make sense of course).
>>29541799the person on whom it is "based", obviously
>UMINEKO-MOVIE.JP DOMAIN REGISTERED>UMINEKO-MOVIE.JP DOMAIN REGISTERED>UMINEKO-MOVIE.JP DOMAIN REGISTERED>UMINEKO-MOVIE.JP DOMAIN REGISTEREDShould I be excited?
>>29543615It's actually just Gou edited into a movie with the witches commentating MST3K style
>>29543904It's literally just seagull, don't cream yourself just yet
>>29543615>>29543904WHOWHO ARE YOU QUOTING
>>29543615probably some faggot bought it to bait idiotsit's not that difficult
>>29543972>>29543904It's gonna be a website for seagull keepers
>>29543972>>29544325umineko is a specific kind of seagull in japan but this is probably not related to 07th Expansion
>>29544035the higurashi anime domain has it's whois information hidden by the same company.
Time to post my epic theory about Gou:Since Umi established that Higurashi was a witch game abandoned by its previous gamemaster. It's likely that the gamemaster came back and figured out what to do with the game board and is doing stuff So in order to solve the mystery, we don't have to solve the fragments, we have to look for the "truth" behind the actual game
>>29543615>Should I be excited?No.
>>29545463was the test successful?
>mfw people don't like greentexting
>>29545396Or this is the game that's going to be abandoned and create Bern The umi manga depicts Bern's "cruel master" as Hanyuu rather than Featherine so I'm half expecting her to pull a heel turn
>>29546713>Or this is the game that's going to be abandoned and create Bernit would be really boring and predictable if this is some straight forward prequel story Ryukishi is not the kinda dude to do stuff like that, there is always a clever twist to it
I'd watch Rena play video games...
>>29547343>at first Rena tries to keep up a professional bubbly persona, though the real personality keeps showing through the cracks>over time she starts dropping the act
>>29547554stop playing the fool. you know you're the problem, that's why you didn't reply to this with your usual copypasta
>>29541288Based and blessed Rosa thread.
What's the best reason for reporting Erikanon's posts, 'extremely low quality'? I've barely ever reported.
I'm working on an NSFW drawing of Mion and Shion but both girls have massive bewbs
>>29547343Nice! Is this yours? Where's it from?
>>29548206I tend to go with spamming/flooding, but his posts are honestly an annoying trifecta of extremely low quality, spamming/flooding, and trolling.
>>29547643Wrong, Frederica Bernkastel is the same as umineko Bernkastel. Face it Italianon, erikantrice falls apart once you recognize that Umineko and Higurashi are connected.
>>29548294But that's normal...>>29548324It's from twitterhttps://twitter.com/potetojpg/status/1330056231319449602Apparently they'll make a Rika one too
hold on>puritanism>claims to be right-wing, but uses stock SocJus vocabulary>never even tried posting on /a/ in earnest beyond spamming his manifesto for a few threads>no matter how many times he fails to convince people of the "truth" that should be the most important thing to him, it doesn't discourage him>rather, he seems to thrive on bullying anons off this boardyou're just some mentally ill progressive with a vendetta against this place, aren't you
>>29548500This is absolutely retarded. Frederica Bernkastel is literally the name that looping Rika calls herself. There is no red truth in Higurashi, nothing you say can refute the words spoken by Rika.
>>29548500There is no mystery to solve in Higurashi, R07 tells you the answer and all of the rules for the mystery.
>>29548419>Frederica Bernkastel is the same as umineko BernkastelNot so literal but connected similar how Rika is connected with it as an origin.
>>29548696It's already a masterpiece without Erikantrice.
These threads used to make me horny now they just make me mad
>>29548831Erikantrice is an insult to all readers.
>>29548460You might be right. Maybe he even knows how to write proper english sentences, and he just uses retarded spelling, grammar and capslock to be as annoying as possible.
>>29548883There is no detective, and if there is one, it's Rika.
>>29548149I want her to pat my head and tell me everything's gonna be ok
italianon has never read higurashi.
>>29548839Yeah, I only check here infrequently now. I can only imagine how many good anons left the general.
>>29548460Best and most plausible theory itt, sasuga detective Rena
Amazing how every single thread devolves into people arguing with this fucking autist.
>>29548996if he's merely pretending he might be samefagging with correct spelling and sentence structure. maybe there are no traitors among us after all.
ooishi is the detective
>>29548996I do it because I find it funny just to piss him off with facts and logic.
>>29548996Must we endure 100 bad threads for a miracle to happen?
He'd solve Umineko before the ending of chapter 1
>>29549178It's been well over a 100 now, it's been over a whole year.
>>29549162illusions to illusions, you're just a phantom created by a desperate false-flagging italianon
>>29549210then we shall become sacrifices and endure 1000 bad threads so that we can create an other fragment which will lead to a good ending maybe even become wizards/witches ourselves if we have the potential to do so
>>29549321>Not wanting to fuck Kanon in his cute asshole regardless of the genderngmi
>>29548996Newfags are incapable of not replying to obvious bait, see this retard >>29549162
Is Gohda racist?
>>29549393This suffering in this thread helps stave off my boredom
>>29549443>02:18:38>>29549499>02:20:21>>29549570>02:22:27>>29549631>02:24:07there's something about those intervals, anons
Does Maria know masturbation? important question
The best things about higurashi gou are the better-adapted club activities and the charcters looking even more fuckable
>>29549691I pointed out the intervals before and he started taking longer before he made his replies.
>>29549570One of my few virtues is patience, know that no amount of suffering can lead me away, we shall both fall into oblivion
>>29549691I'll say it in red:>>>/o/+nly+three+of+those+posts+are+mineTry not to claw your neck out.
>>29549711Because of all the retarded crack theories, Erikantrice is the worst constructed one with the least respect for R07. Rosatrice is infinitely superior to Erikantrice.
>>29543615You do know that Umineko is a word in Japanese right? It’s not a word ryukishi made up for WTC.
>>29550035Your suffering is amusing to watch and enjoy. But it appears that the fun must come to an end...
>>29549907Fuck offMy theory solve all the first 4 games without violating a red truthRosatrice violate >Rosa and Maria died. The causes of death were as Nanjo diagnosedA personality cant be stabbedShkanontrice yes>Among the five people in Kyrie's groupShannon=kanon 4 people not 5Then my theory is thw only 1 who solve chiru as a mysteryRosatrice nope shkanontroce nopeMy theory respect the mystery and the charactwrsFor all theories Erika is just dumb,mad ecc instead in my thwory sje in the woman who love more than everyone elseMY THEORY IS THE PERFECTION FOR UMINEKO
ERiKANTRICE MANIFeSTO IS COMPLETEDhttps://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqSBooru:https://erikce.booru.orgErika knew how the victims died without having seen them (covered by a blanket) and without anyone talking about their cause of deathERIKANTRICE IS THE TRUTH!!
>>29550158Rosatrice is more consistent than Erikantrice. In fact, Jessicatrice/Moon-chan is more valid than erikantrice. In fact, Ghoda being the culprit for episode 2 is more valid than erikantrice.
>>29550325Pic related is episode 2 Gohda culprit theory.
If all the humans in Umineko, aside from Jessica, Krauss, Eva, George (and I guess Rosa too) who are proven to be good at fighting with their bare hands, fought without using any weapons, who would win? I'm feeling like Gohda would win
>>29550439Nanjo or Hideyoshi would win. Their mass alone gives them a huge advantage. What unstoppable force can match these unmovable objects?
>>29550357It's a devils proof, therefore I refuse to explain.
>>29550439I think Gohda would win.>>29550477I don't know, I think Gohda has that raw strength that can overcome pure mass.
>>29550439Battler probably packs the most punch and has the best agility and recovery since he's in his prime physically.
>>29550439>>29550477>>29550650If Rosa doesn't participate then Maria obviously wins, think about it, would Gohda/Hideyoshi/Nanjo really be able to abuse and hurt a pure girl like Maria? of course not
>>29550688so all cute lolis have diplomatic immunity?
>>29550723cute lolis don't have diplomatic immunity if the attacker wants to penetrate their holesthe thirst of cunny is one of the strongest driving forces out there
>>29550762So Battler wins?
>>29550439Natsuhi would win. In ep5 she mentions martial arts training from her traditional priestess family upbringing and some ability to use a naginata.Even without the weapon, her proper training should prove superior to the rest of the cast.
>>29550850I completely forgot about that
>>29541288I love seeing Erika being bullied.https://exhentai.org/g/1095550/65cca123f4/
>>29551080Was expecting it to be nsfw...
>>29551080why are there no doujins of Bern fucking Erika
>>29551297>>29551401Higurashi being the series that got popular is a shame because 90% of the characters in higurashi are unnatractive, while 99% of the characters in Umineko are hot as fuck
>>29551401but there is.https://exhentai.org/g/230828/fd24ed3dba/
>>29551533umineko has more art on pixiv than higurashi if that makes you feel better, but actually I think it's more that most of the doujinshi for both series weren't released on sites like DMM and DLsite for anyone to download and upload since, during their prime, most artists just sold them irl at comiket and other events and that was it. so they aren't as easily accessible for people to get, nor were there as many uploaders back then as there are in recent years, plus other franchises were more popular.for comparsion, there are 275 higurashi doujinshi on sadpanda, but there's a whopping 1259 on the Mugimugi doujinshi database (138 and 952 respectively for umineko), so we're missing out on nearly 2000 doujinshi. this isn't counting artist CG sets on sadpanda btw since a lot of them are just free image sets released on Pixiv so the numbers might be a little off.
Watching the Rosatrice videos for the first time. What am I in for?
I want to teach Maria love...
>genki>tomboy>sweet>loving>nice>cute af>powerful yet kind>will kill and sacrifice herself for her loved one>still canon true nakama who never kills her friendsHow do we keep winning MIONCHADS?
>>29557346I thought it was mostly deleted at this point.
>>29557862>still canon true nakama who never kills her friendsyeah I refuse to believe any retarded statement or theory claiming that she might be doing stuff in Gou Mion remaining "passive" to me is one of the golden truths of Higurashi
>>29550215>The claim about this theory is disputed.
Greetings anons, it is I, 07th Expansion/Ryukishi iceberg anon. I have spent a good while lurking these threads and researching, cherry-picking information for this iceberg. A lot of entries have been rewritten or removed, mainly because they were just too retarded to justify keeping. I think the current iceberg is a lot more interesting since most of the information is rumoured, speculated, or true.However, I'm still interested in acquiring more information anons. If you know any stupidly obscure facts about any of the works/games listed, I'm interested to hear:>Higurashi Daybreak>Umineko Golden Fantasia>Higurashi Gatcha>TrianthologyWhile I'm not going to be accepting shitposts (unless they are a famous meme with some level of historical significance), I am willing to change the placements of the entries if given a valid reason. Of course, I plan to change, restructure, or remove entries entirely depending on how the current anime and Ciconia develop over time. My own knowledge is a factor in this as well.
>>29541726Not him but I also think that Ryukishi was heavily influenced by Fate/Tsukihime when he wrote Umineko. Like yeah Magic battle? Summons? It's hip right now so let's include it.
>>29559928>BT was a CIA agent
>>29559928Fix the typos at least.
>>29559928Add Ryukishi is Nasu to one of the lower levelsStar Trek sample is wikia tier stuff, nerf it to the upper levels
Young Ange showing Maria how to masturbate
Added a couple of entries I forgot:>Rena's half sister>OH DESIRE>>29560296Typos have been fixed.>>29560513Made some changes based on your suggestion anon.>Replaced Kakeraverse = Nasuverse with Ryukishi is Nasu and moved it up a layer.We have too much "verse" shit already anyway. This is much better in my opinion.>Moved Star Trek sampling up to the very topmost part of layer 3.It is wiki tier stuff I guess, so I'll concede and move it up.
>>29561247Also:>Lowered "Voyager witches reference Archons" a layer.It's a lot more interesting, obscure and cryptic than other entries. Probably one of my favourites on here desu. Definitely deserves placement in the deepest depths of the iceberg.
>>29560982Young age teaching Maria how to kiss
>>29549057Liar unless you're the trash poster.
>>29550215They were killed in another room Düring the night. Erika only heard Battler's breath.
actual picture of Naima
>>29541656>>29541319I care. I know what it's like to have a waifu.
>>29541726Honestly I think all the magic chuuni battle stuff was nice. I might get into fateshit eventually.
>>29550723Oh yeah, what the hell was Sakutaro's diplomatic immunity? What does it mean?
>>29549325Since his apparition, we had maybe one thread without a single post from him, and it was the best.
>>29558308agreed. the retards on /a/ still don't realize its shion.
>>29566020I'll do you one better:In watanagashi it never mattered which shmion is which.People seem to be under the impression it does now.
>>29566270not sure what your getting at. meakashi explains its shion. mion going L5 doesn't make sense, especially if k1 gave her the doll. the confession was a little off and I think its possible that its a shion satoko cope.
>>29567014Let me say it this way. in Gou, I don't really care which shmion kills the people in the well.What's more interesting is who kills the shion in the hallway, satoko and rika.same goes for onidamashi we know who kills rena and attacks k1, we don't know who kills Satoko and Rika or why is much more interesting to me.
>>29559125Don't bring Twitter shit on 4chan, please. Especially because it isn't funny and out of place used here.
Where the hell is all the Sakutaro /ss/?
>>29547343Girls don't play games
>>29548460italians are notorious for having lots of antifa kiddies
Meganon! Here are some scans of interviews and officials arts of Umineko and Higurashi for the archive:https://imgur.com/a/htdHQlQhttps://imgur.com/a/qFgtG3yhttps://imgur.com/a/hoaNye5https://imgur.com/a/bnpoQFphttps://imgur.com/a/7jISJbnhttps://imgur.com/a/nVpcmdchttps://imgur.com/a/VoCMXao
>>29549757Somebody speaks the truth, finally.
>>29551533>>Higurashi being the series that got popularThought Umineko was more popular these days. Before Gou came out, anyway.
>>29570194Only on the west, in Japan that's not the case, even on Internet.
>>29551080same, i love masochists.
>>29569271italian anon is not funny either and we have to eat that shit all the time
>>29574621maybe one day you will all understand that to get rid of the pasta harassment you just have to ignore him
its so retarded that we have to wait for phase 2 and meanwhile hes milking a series that is about a deadly illnessfucking balding faggot
>>29577577The author can do what he wants and he laughs at you anon
DAMARE BAKA ROSA!
>"OOOoooohhh...... BEATORICIEEE !!!!" >The lament of a madman can be heard inside Kinzo's study, and beyond that locked room was a servant who is all too familiar with that voice.>"Where is Natsuhi ! Genji, bring me Natsuhi !! OOoooooohh...">The door to the study was knocked several times and words from the servant followed suit, yet the door is still not opened. The violent rambling from earlier suddenly became quiet for a while.>Worried for his master, Genji opened the door himself with the key that he already held. He felt no presence in that room, then noticed that one of the window was opened. >.........
>>29578904>It was late at night, and Kinzo made his way towards Natsuhi's room across the rooftop. No one could see him from outside at this hour even from the rose garden beneath him.>The strange noises startled a restless Natsuhi who was having trouble sleeping to begin with. As it gets louder she no longer think it was a small animal that had made it. Annoyed, she pulled the curtains and opened the window slightly. By the time Natsuhi could realize what was happening, it was already too late. That unusual force she felt from the window must have been from the man who had just entered the room.
>>29580000>Wide eyed, Natsuhi barely made out the figure of the intruder. The owner of that figure was none other than the man she respected. >"Otou-sama !?">Natsuhi quivered as she could not explain what she had witnessed. It was very sudden and it worsened her headache. Despite this, she picked herself up and tried to regain her usual composed self in front of this man. The man slowly approached her. No, it was more appropriate to say that she was drawn towards him, as if the room was dragging her closer.
should have used the original sprite
Does the archive link no longer work? It just takes me to a sign-in page.
>>29577577"Plague that nearly destroys humanity" is way more on the nose than Hinamizawa Syndrome
>>29584120Keep believing BT wasn't a CIA agent.
>>29584120People for some reason are so obsessed with linking coincidences to real life eventsIf people wish for something to happen, they will subconsciously do retarded actions which lead to the event they so desire
>>29584120covid is nowhere near being a plague
>>29585407yeah and even if you consider it a plague, it is not one to have the characteristics enough to pull off the extinction of humanity
>>29585536yepits baffling how ryu07 is relating a highly contagious new version of flu to the ciconia world
>>29583987https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQThey omitted the folder part.
>>29583987https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQOPs have been fags and haven't been copypasting the link correctly >>29585602well ryu07 is retarded for believing that shit but remember that he is also japanese and the japs have this dumb culture of succumbing to group pressure if enough retards rally you can definitely wreak havoc around Asia kek No wonder the chinese government has to apply the most extreme measures to control their population
>>29585781>>29585732How can someone mess up and omitt part of the link? Not like they accidently hit backspace and removed the last letter, its in the middle of the link. Did someone making the OP think it'd be funny to fuck with people?
>>29586337>How can someone mess up and omit part of the link? >Did someone making the OP think it'd be funny to fuck with people?What the fuck? How can we haven't noticed this until now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0yYXgnSwmE&tI hope this is just some fucked up prank and NOT what WE are thinking "OF"
Why didn't George, the fattest cousin, just eat the witch?
>>29585732>>29585781>>29586337OP here I'm very sorry, I just copied the last thread's OP
>>29559928>R07 drew loli bondage hetaiUm...yea imma near a source on this one...
>>29588425check out "Ryuukishi07 Gallery" on sad pandaalso in the art books folder of the mega
>>29588511Where did those pictures come from?Amazing to believe that stuff was archived
>>29570149thx, added>>29588989No idea, wish there were more because these are obviously old. You just know there's a bunch of lewd art that he's keeping all to himself.
Dlanor eating a burger
>>29570149Kyrie with glasses looks nice
>>29590448It really adds to her, wish r07 went with the glasses.
>>29588425Yep, indeed he did. First found out about it when I came across an anon who had posted some of the pics. As the other anon said, you can find it in the MEGA link, (great place for finding iceberg material).Also, where did the other iceberg anon go? They were making a Higurashi-only iceberg in some of the Gou threads and found some interesting information. Our icebergs already have quite a bit of crossover, so I would love to use a few more of their ideas in my own... But some approval first would make doing so a lot more comfortable.
>>29588989They were made for a card game called Leaf Fight based off of various characters from different games(primarily from VNs developed by Leaf, as the name would imply, but also some others, as well). You can still find the images on 07th Expansion's website in Wayback Machine.
What was Battler's game against Beato supposed to be? Are they supposed to be in purgatorio or something? what the fuck is the battle in the golden land or city of books?
>>29601342If magic is real and Lambda, Bern, Featherine are proper witches then it was a fight in a higher plane of existence that diretly affected the future.If magic is not real then those fights didn't literally happen. They may very well be just Ikuko's writing at the suggestions of Tohya, and you were just following a story.The golden land and city of books fights are again either a literal battle on a higher plane or some symbolic representation of people being close to finding the truth of rokkenjima through eva's diary.That would "kill" the theories surrounding the Ushiromiya family and only what actually happened would be accepted by the populace.It's also about Ange maturing.
Reading through the Umineko manga after having finished the VN.I was too busy getting caught up in the advancing plot to look back at Beato's original games, but they are legitimately all written with explicit hints towards who Beato was. I am like even more impressed with the series.
Wtf is Leo doing to this maid
>>29606628hes showing yasu that you dont need a **** to love
>>29606628He's not doing anything, he's simply sitting in a chair so that she can shine his shoes.
>>29606628furniture has to obey orders, yasu
why did Shion go "LOL it was just a joke bro" in Meakashi about the stories she told K1 about Unit 731 and japanese war crimes in Watanagashi?were nips actually mad over it back in the day? asking this in good faith.
Did R07 decide to name the culprit Yasu because of that Portland Serial Murders meme in Japan?
is there a beatrice edit of this?
EP5 over... The end of the Episode had me wanting to wring Erika's neck till it snaps. Tea Party only gave more reasons for it. the Inhuman Tea Party brought all the satisfaction it could bring, twice as sweet. After going through Ep4 and EP5 without any breathing room, the other three will certainly be grand to read.
>>29611936Edit? But anon, that is Beatrice, just a different artstyle.
Is iwaihime any good?
>>29543832This would rule.Particularly if the Witches did host segments like actually MST3K.>>29547343>>29547578You bet your ass I would love seeing WTC's Best Girl play video games.
>>29551533What? The vast majority of the Umi characters are uggos as well. R07 is not good at character design, but I don't hold it against him.
>>29570194Most Umi discourse has died off in recent years outside of places like /jp/. Higu's always been more known, amongst VN readers and casual anime watchers alike.
>>29612006You we're thinking on your own, right anon? I'd scream at Battler for being incompetent as ever "Don't you see the facts, dumbass?". Erika is like Beatrice, but Beatrice become the heroine.
>>29613804and yet battler ran off somewhere and made this>>>/v/533272636
>>29614326/v/ has an umineko thread almost every day, I don't know why.
>>29614683Well, most posts are about guessing the last digit of their post number. Nothing interesting.
>>29614326that entire thread had blown up and none was left aliveit was a get thread and only yugi and bernkastel had won
it was deleted immediately after italia anon posted
>>29614905I am the strongest poster of 4chan
>>29614683No wonder these threads are getting worse, /v/ crossboarders and higurashi gou faggots from /a/
>>29614969>brags about being insufferableclass clowns doubling-down on being annoying and disgusting on purpose once they have their bad reputation is one of the saddest things. just leave.
>>29617143>lmaoRemember a clown must make laugth people not get them MadUnderstandIf you get mad about my theory then you understand how well made is
>>29617394noone cares about your theory one way or another, people hate you personally
>>29617634Everyone care about my theory anonThey hate me for a reason because i found out the thing that destroyed their ideasBefore erika=kanon people made gun about me and now the hate me with all their heartI CALL THIS ABSOLUTE WIN
>>29614969>>29618025you are still a shitposting apprentice though, your power barely extends beyond this niche shithole you'll never be acknowledged by anyone no matter how hard you try illusions to illusions, just a shitty phantom wailing their nonsense on the smalls corners of the internet
I've been reading Higurashi threads on /a/, and I wonder if there'll be any connection to Umineko with Featherine.Featherine is a "representation" of the author and is distinct to Hachijou, she's just using Ikuko's form with some references to Hanyuu from Bern to her (Auaurora).Featherine can be used for any story (by R07) with meta elements without Umineko being associated directly (only as a reference) because she's a kind of a "God of Fiction". But here, in Higurashi Gou, she might just be a representation of Hanyuu. In the OP, she seen with a religious staff.My memory might plays tricks on me, tho.
>>29618592As long as it's protrayed in a compelling way I will accept anything that happens.
>>29618263Fake and gayMy theory already spread just no one can discuss about itWhy rosatrice can be discuss?Why any other theory can be discuss?Why mine not?Not only here but in every other platform erikantrice threads are bannedSO MUCH CENSORSHIP FOR A STUPID SHITPOSTING THEORY?YOU ALL KNOW WHAT ERIKANTRICE ISANS YOU ALL KNOW AN ERIKANTRICE SPREADING CAN BRING>>29618592Ikuko is Yasu
>kanon is gay for battler>he literally hides in a closetwhat did he mean by this
>>29618857idk bro you are really low energy with your shitty theoryyou just have some shitty half-assed pastebin with a mediocre prose and low to it you would need to make something like the Philmarilion if you ever want to make it beyond the shitpost apprentice level
>>29619071Its mediocre if you read without thinkWhat is inside my manifesto is the real truth of Umineko and no one deny itMy theory explain all the first 4 games without violating any red truth or use some insult to the readerSo is an alternative theory according with Umineko+ my theory is unique since it explain Umineko chiru as a mystery No other thwory could do that even Shkanontrice failedMY THEORY IS THE PERFECTION
>>29618857For starters it takes a fair bit of shobby reasoning and twisted logic around reds to "work." Every dumb solution in the original shkanontrice is replaced by the need of different dumb solutions in other places here.It's also not an elegant solution, a Yasu will multiple personalities that are counting as different people in the games Erika appears still exists. Basically the theory only solves your personal gripes with Umineko, so it's natural it wouldn't take off.It might be a fun theory to remember if you didn't post so much about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh4Jrzprdjccould someone translate what's being said in this? I'm assuming this is sayo yelling in misery but I'm a retard with 0 knowledge of japanese language and would love to know what exactly this is about
>>29619234Presentation is everythingI won't bother reading it the way you intend to if its presented like shityour pastebin is so dry, switch to a format that allows some images and diagrams that would help the reader if you are going for an essay style fix your horseshit grammar (most important part) Your pastebin or preferably another format should have a proper structure ( No index/Table of contents? No Bibliography/Acknowledgements? Why the fuck does the introduction have two parts?, etc...) write in third-person and switch only to first-person when necessary (you are trying to convince the readers, not to jerk yourself off)
>>29619835MY THEORY IS BASED , AND I SAID THIS 1000 TIMES , ON MYSTERYMY THEORY SOLVE UMINEKO BY RESPECTING KNOX,VAN DINE AND ALL THE RED TRUTHSNO TRICKS IS REUSED AND THERE ISNT NO EVERYONE IS THE CULPRIT 3 TIMES STRAIGTH!!!!this is not my personal gripes but wjat everyone who reaf umineko would discover if they respect the MYSTERYIf you can accept that mystery , the thing who created the love between Yasu and Battler can be insulted , you never read umineko
>>29620092>Presentation is everythingFor goats who can understand nothingOn my manifesto there is written READ ONLY IF YOU READ UMINEKO AT THE SMALLEST DETAIL Just you never do it so you cant understand It's not my job make my manifesto normie-friendlyIf i wanted spread my theory to normie i would make a reddit accountI WANT REAL DISCUSSIONS WITH REAL UMINEKO LOVER HERE WERE IT WAS DISCUSSED THE FIRST TIME
Not the autist, but I was toying with the idea of Erika being the (thought to be) stillborn child of Asumu, who seeks revenge on the whole Ushiromiya. Gohda was a spy she sent a few years back. That's why she knew about the gold and the internal affairs. She can appears at the end of the trick ending to reveal everything to Ange. Obviously it's not canon, but it can make for an interesting narrative.
>>29620630Mkre than revenge illusion the detective fantasy of YasuAnyone who love read mystwry books wants to be a detective
Truly this is the worst thread yet
That's it, I am eternally eating my spaggheti with ketchup from now on
I want to date a prostitute
>>29543615>>29543904I salute you and all the other people who still have hope about something new after the Ciconia wreck that just happened.But hey! Assuming that it's real then, we'll either have our long awaited anime remake or a super cringey live action movie!
I hate myself for ruining higurashi for myself before I read it. Not because I know who's behind everything or any gay shit like that, but because I've destroyed any of the confusion and tension and second-guessing I'd be feeling. When I read Umineko I was always second-guessing if there really was magic, or if there was a nineteenth person on the island (at least, in the first few episodes), but now...I'm on the first episode and it's a fucking pen, isn't it? It's not a syringe. When she says she's gonna do to Keiichi what happened to Tomitake she means the fucking drawing on his shirt thing. Fuck. I know I'd be questioning whether Keiichi was insane or whether he was in real danger if I hadn't read about the syndrome.Don't reply to me if I'm wrong.
For some weird reason I started digging into the "Ryukishi is Nasu theory" and I started noticing a few things that made me go schizo.First you have the name Kinoko Nasu (Nasu is an extremely rare family name, like less than 4000 people have it in Japan and Kinoko too is also a really uncommon name). The previous facts make it sound like a made up name but lets continue. Both Nasu (allegedly) and Ryukishi were born in the Chiba prefecture and both were born in November (Ryukishi in the 19th, Nasu on the 28th) [Another odd fact is that Kinoko Nasu isn't listed as a famous person from the Chiba prefecture]. Beatrice in the Requiem of the Golden Witch inherits the gold on the November 29, 1984 a day off from Nasu's birthday. Let us jump into the Witch's epitaph in Umineko in which at first we can "interpret it as however we want" so I analyze it from the perspective that it is "literally" written as a riddle from Ryukishi and analyze the twilights. The epitaph talks about a journey which lasts 10 days, however Nasu's and Ryukishi's birthday is 9 days not 10, if the journey isn't completed you can't reach the Golden Land , however I have an interpretation about this. Nasu was a pseudonym for Ryukishi himself as he realized that Type-Moon's first efforts were doing good (Kara no Kyukai flopped), he decided to gamble (literally if you take the joke told in Kagetsu Tohya of Takeuchi having sold tons of stuff to keep Type Moon afloat for a little time) everything on his new work "Tsukihime" (gambling your fate away is one of the main themes of Umineko). We obviously know that thanks to Tsukihime, Type-Moon made it big so lets go back to the birthdays, if we add 10 to the number 19 (10 being a crucial number in the solution of the Witch's Epitaph), you get November 29, the same day Beatrice discovered the gold in Requiem (making it to Golden Land) in a way you can also interpret this as Ryukishi reaching the Golden Land himself. Ryukishi jokingly once said that without Nasu, he would be nothing without him, keep this in mind as we go back to the Epitaph:The Witch will praise the wise, and should bestow four treasures. One shall be, all the gold from the Golden Land.(the money and fame gained from Tsukihime)One shall be, the resurrection of the souls of all the dead.(Type Moon and Ryukishi's other writing endeavors [the later foundation of 07th Expansion])One shall be, even the resurrection of the lost love.(Him reviving Hinamizawa Bus Stop project which was rejected leading to Higurashi) One shall be, to put the Witch to sleep for all time.(Ryukishi leaving behind his final gamble and moving on Tsukihime)Sleep peacefully, my most beloved witch, Beatrice.(Arcueid was based of a western beauty (blond french model) which has a similar design philosophy to Beatrice, in the end of her route she goes to sleep saying that she will probably not wake up for the longest time. Arc is Tsuki's main heroine and can be interpreted as the witch that gave Ryukishi the gold). There are some other funny coincidences that I can keep on pointing out between the Ryukishiverse and the Nasuverse.
>>29623251its a pen yesgood job
>>29623664They are different people but this is much better than Erikantrice spam.Kinoku Nasu is a made up name
>>29623884How do we know that they are different people though? Nasu's info on the internet is so full of weird quirks and false information that it just makes him sound like a made up personunless you have some legal info that Nasu is a real person, I will just reply with "Devil's Proof"
>>29623664Ryukishi and Nasu are samefags!
>>29620630The stillbirth child is supposed to be a male named Battler. So Erika is Black Battler. But the EP5 should have been about Rudolph instead of Natsuhi.
>>29624431Total headcanonErika is Kanon since do nothing except accuse NatsuhiCheck the bodies?Check if someone is hiding?Come first at crime scene?Nothing just try to accuse Natsuhi
>>29623953The fact they look different and have separate documented backgrounds isn’t enough for you?Even trying to suggest they are the same person when you’ve got that level of info is silly
>keeps writing about gender>has what is essentially a female pen nameSo Ryukishi's a closeted tranny right
>>29618857Back for more? Ikuko isn't Yasu. And Featherine being in Gou will prove that the two aren't the same.
>>29623664this is bullshit but i believe it
>>29624525Is that Kaiba?
>>29624803Ikuko is YasuShe wrote higurashi in the witch hunter forum
>>29624857kaiba is keichi
>>29618857I'm sorry Italianon, but your tale has been denied. Shkanontrice has always been and will always be the tale that will be spun. No amount of spamming or efforts on your part will ever amount to anyone ever believing your tale as truth.
>>29624871It is impossible for Yasu to be anywhere near Hinamizawa at the time when the events occured, and it's impossible for Yasu to have written such a mystery when Yasu was 13 years old.
>>29624980This is why i am figthingTo finnally end this nigthmare and make people finnally see the ligthAnge waited more than 10 years to finnally discover the truth like meDoesnt matter how much time passedA truth will remain truth forever
>>29624610>documented backgroundsNasu's background isn't properly documented though so say it in red (Nasu is a different person from Ryukishi) or show me some legal documentsIt's very funny that they have both overlapping elements like both being huge mystery fans and the fact that both wanted to write a story about a murderer however had weird ethics about it (the bearing of sins, murder being a horrible sin, the ethics behind a murder, multiple personalities) mainly inspired by the writer Kiyoshi Kasai, coincidentally in Higurashi there is a character with the name similar to Kiyoshi that being you guessed it, Kasai Tatsuyoshi.
>>29625094If Ikuko discover the real truth than she can create how much fragments she wants then post it on internetBut maybe i am wrong since Lambda was the game master.So Ikuko start to challenge this mystery on witch hunters forum and her desuction were so great that create many people become her fan (Rika) then she cpuld not post anymore (for battler) so these people start to solve it on their own like their idol, but the didnt think just spamming every possible solution so Lambda get bored and confirm the most popular 1 as truth.This make these goats very proud and soon start to do the same think with Rokkenjima mystery with Battler's family culprit theory (Bern)
If Erika is an aspect of Yasu, why did Battler go all"go fuck yourself I would never marry you"in EP6?By that point he knew the truth. Regardless of how twisted she may be, isn't it weird he'd treat a part of Yasu that was born with the same affection for him with such hatred and disdain during those scenes?
>>29625695Battler discover the truth in episode 5 but not Erika=Kanon this is why commit the logic errorBut after Beatrice's victory he said to her that it would be fun marry her.Doesnt matter who are Battler and YasuThey will always fallen in love each others
Why did Ryukishi say:"By no means is the manga version a individual interpretation. It is an official answer from me, Ryukishi07."
>>29624534Yeah it's headcanon. But I still believe the Sumedas or Asumu bribed the doctor to declare a stillbirth and the 2nd Battler was given into an orphanage.
>>29549187Because he s competant ?
>>29624980I am sorry Shkanontircers. But your tale will be forever questioned. Even the creator had weaved a golden fabric you happily accepted as canon. Jokes aside.It's definitely better to see other aspects of the story. Only a fool would the extras of EP8 manga at face value without critical thinking. After the manga was fan-translated everyone was like "Shkannontrice is ultimatevely confirmed ;`)" and after the Say It In Red- interview people shat their pants. I am sorry, but people were swallowing the illusion to get a unreal confirmation. You post is a hasty and wrong statement that Ryukishi never confirmed. He is disgusted how many people reading his work cannot think on their own and feed them like goats with scraps of illusions. Because of your ignorance Ryukishi had accepted people won't understand the story and gifted them with a dummy truth for their "hard work". Circonia is still testing waters but if he realize everything will happen again you'll get the thing YOU want.
>>29558308B-b-b but she thought okonogi
>>29625935It shouldn't really matter probably Ryu just being sillyI prefer judging works on their own so I would just apply "Death of Author" in this case
>>29626951Fought*Excuse my bad english.
>>29626900Your tale has already been denied by Ryukishi himself.
Never again in the history of 7th expansion threads has it been this shitItalianon is allowed to run fee and wild and is never shut down
>>29627351Fale and gayWhen i am out this thread become pedoshit
He fucked a tranny...?
>>29624980good job playing into his narrative of grandiosity, retard. every single time he starts going on about>i must fighth>for finnally truth>operayou should make it clear that he has a pet theory isn't the fucking problem and never was. half the anons itt who have read Umi more than once do, we're just reasonable enough to not spam 24/7.
>>29626976have you read death of the author? it's a complete joke argument that "critics" only go along with because it's convenient for them. intentionality will always matter.
>>29627720Explain why is a pet theory anon?Because solve all the mystery by respecting all the red truth,knox,van dine?Because give a counter part in reality to every meta scene so totally eliminate magic?Or because characters are respected without mad,incel,tranny and others clichè?Pls explain to me
Why is Ryukishi such a Christian nerd?He's he really a Christian or just someone that uses it for fiction similar how a western could create stories about different pagan religions?
>>29627980>Why is Ryukishi such a Christian nerd?kihihihihihihihi.... No, it was just the occult boom that happened in the 80s/90s and it also deeply affected Japan Besides that Gnosticism, Kabbalah and the Ars Goetia (and more occult stuff that I'm forgetting has barely anything to do with Christianity uu--)
>>29627883You are a cliched mad incel tranny Posting this shit 18 hours a day
>>29628251I am never madI am a vorcel not an incelAnd i am nkt a tranny so fuck off
>>29628483what is even a vorcel
>>29628483My italianon theory states that you are.It is a more reliable theory. If we were to put it to a vote then mine would win as 99% so anons hate your lies
>>29628547Vortic celibateVortic mean chaos
>>29628658Please explain this new madness
Nice to meet you, would you like to hear about umineko theory?
>>29628658If i post the definition they will ban me sorry anon>>29628808Only if is the real truth of umineko
>>29628910>If i post the definition they will ban me sorry anonpost it on a pastebin or something
>>29628808oh man id like to meme back with a certain higurashi picture but guess ill stop
>>29629114Don't you dare to post that Rena cosplay.
>>29629154I don't know what can be more terrifying than those shitty JAV costumes accompanied with bad acting
>>29628910yes it is undisputed truth of umineko
This is kinda a dumb question, butHOW THE FUCK DO I SELECT A NEW EPISODE
>>29624998>>29624525not big enough
>>29629590Each episode is its own game how do you now know this?
>>29629669Fuck! I totally forgot! Umineko Project spoiled me.
Shiiiiet, is the mega link dead for anyone else?
>>29544406the site was registered via onamae (one of the well-known Japanese domain registrars) and they offer whois protection, so it really doesn't mean much
>>29630270Try this : https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ
>>29627883Because it literally contradicts what Ryukishi has said in interviews and the manga, please consider ending your life.
>>29627265It's the opposite. You assumed Shkannontrice is confirmed (what Ryukishi stated) however it was just fabricated story written with red letters by Ikuko (what manga shows). Unless you accept Ikuko=Sayo it's another story.
>>29631647So why wjat Ryukishi said in the interview and in the mamga contradicts wahte there is in the VnContradicts the love story between Reand and Writer, the theme of UminekoSo you are that Umineko Vn is a Pet?Madness
Thoughts on the OST remakes in the 07th mod?
>>29631930No wonder you have a retarded theory, your English knowledge is that of a preschooler.
>>29631930Can you even read the game with that Enlgish?
>>29632002What, what tracks were remade?
>>29632039https://radiataalice.bandcamp.com/album/hinamizawa-syndrome-vol-1All the orchestral tracks
>>29631930There's no negative connotation in a pet theory, yours definitely qualifies with how much you care for it.
>>29632061I really like them actually. The old version of the tracks can be pure ear rape at times. Some of the songs clip weird and have volume balancing issues as well. For example, Fascism, while being one of the best songs, has a lot of extra noise in it that makes it unbearable to listen to at times. On the other hand, the remastered version is silky smooth and I love it. I'm honestly fine with them since they use similar instruments and use the same midis that Ryukishi originally used.
I'll tell you what happened in Umineko.At the start of the conference, Kinzo introduced Lion to all of the family, and explained that she was the rightful heir of the Ushiromiya family and Beatrice's gold."Ushiromiya Kinzo" is already dead at the start of all games, and indeed, "Kinzo" died after meeting the kuwadorian Beatrice's child. From that point onward he was reborn as Goldsmith, dedicated to make the mistakes of his past life right.There was objection from the parents, but Lion wasn't interested in the gold or the position of heir, and distributed it all to Kinzo's family.Touched by her magnanimity and the bright future ahead, Krauss and the others begged Lion to at least keep a part of the money, and she agreed to a sum that would let her live out the rest of her life in peace with her beloved.The cousins learned the truth, and fought it out. It was a hard fight, but they all did their best and finished it without regrets.After that there was a big party, and everyone planned the happy future to come ahead.Unfortunately, the typhoon hit the bombs hidden in the island hard, and the old shells weren't enough to protect them from such a storm, making them explode. The games are happening in literal purgatory, as they are a way to make Battler atone for his sin against Yasu. This is why there are so many demons in the cast, and why there are so many references to Dante's inferno (Virgilia, Clair, Beatrice.)After undertanding and atoning, and with the final test of jumping after Yasu in the ocean, Battler's soul was laid to rest (but his body continued living), and was able to go to heaven with the rest of his family.Batler and the whole family watch ange from heaven, and Maria even comes down to give her advice often, as they love her very much.This is the actual truth of the series.
The biggest twist is the fact that the milkiest milkers were actually fake all along.My personal theory is that every single Ushiromiya wanted to fuck Kanon and/or Shanon and, upon finding Shanon's tits and Kanon's shota dick didn't actually exist, everyone lost their heads and collectively decided to just blow the place up to hide the truth inside the catbox. Better go down in history as a conspiracy theory than as tranny worshippers.
>>29632917>Unfortunately, the typhoon hit the bombs hidden in the island hard, and the old shells weren't enough to protect them from such a storm, making them explode.Why did only Yasu, Battler and Eva survive?
>>29633091Yasu called Battler to the Kuwadorian mansion so they could see where the previous Beatrice lived.Eva wanted to have a stern talk with Shanon about George, and so she followed.They wanted privacy for different reasons and ended up getting lucky.
>>29633070This theory makes the most sense to me.
>>29633070>Beatrice i cant love Battler anymore >put gigant tits on ShannonImagine belive in this bullshitThese tits are real
>>29633070PS3 Shannon is fucking soulless and ugly.
>>29633469makes sense, because shannon herself is soulless and ugly
What do you all think of this theory?https://uminekolong.hatenablog.com/entry/2020/11/20/235551
>>29635426I think the moon runes are pretty cute!
Just finished chapter 8 of umineko and it feels bad knowing I’ll have to reread another 102.7 hours to take another shot at the closed rooms and other mysteries since its uncertain how well a plot summary or the manga convey the finer details of each game.
>>29637043now read Erikantrice manifesto to discover the real truth of Uminekohttps://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqSERIKA IS KANON THIS IS WHY SHE DIDNT SAW NOTHING IN THE CLOSET
>>29637170Thanks but I think I’ll pass for the time being. I feel like Ryukishi makes it very clear his disdain for readers who don’t think for themselves with the Goats and Featherine’s attitude, aswell as the themes with Eva’s diary and the real truth of the catbox being unopened.I’d much rather tackle my thoughts and theories before reading into the rosatrice vs shkannontrice gangwar so I don’t get tunnelvision with my reasoning.
>>29637615>rosatrice vs shkannontrice gangwarthe what?
>>29637615why Ryukishi makes it very clear?SHkanontrice is never stated in the vn so for you everyone is the culprit 3 times straigth is very clear for you?Shaknontrice is fake and gay violate the red truth 3 times>Gohda is a servant he cant kill no one>the chapel cant get closed with a masterkey so Closed room circle is impossible>Kyrie's group in episode 4 is made up by 5 person but Shannon=Kanon make them only 4ecc.....for reach your own conlusion you must get information by all the sources
>>29637043Red truth exists for exactly this reason.
>>29637043Figuring out Umineko is old news We need to go beyond fiction and uncover mysteries in real lifedon't let Ryukishi fool youRyukishi = Nasu Kinoko
>>29637921But then who is Asakusa?
Rosatrice is real because Rosa is cool and sexy
>>29637921So that's why we're never getting the Tsukihime remake. I see, I see.
>>29637043Read the manga. It's a good experience.
>>29640687>So that's why we're never getting the Tsukihime remakeyes the witch Arcueid has been put to sleep for all time or maybe notTsukihime remake was announced 12 years ago, the same way in which Ange's journey took place 12 years after the Rokkenjima disasterFate's (real) current situation also has similar parallels, there have been so much spin-offs and new adaptations which has lead to a complete shift in how the public views Fate. it was just 16-15 years ago that Fate was a respected visual novel which inspired many new upcoming writers/mangaka, however that is not the case anymore people have multiple "truths" on how they view current Fate, some people mindlessly consume F/GO, others unironically think Fate/Zero is better and an actual masterpiece, others in their desperation completely misunderstand the original VN and view it as an untouchable masterpiece to preserve the old Type Moon image, etc. Just like how in Umineko each bottle distorted the vision on what happened on the island even more on what truly transpired on the island Tsukihime remake releasing may be part of some trial or game or sorts or maybe we will just have to hope for a miracle for that to happen.
>>29637043Yeah, what >>29642165 said. Read the manga. Only like one or two closed rooms get fucked from art direction, but the manga is legitimately the best "post VN" read since the extra bits of supplemental information it gives actually strengthens your understanding of the truth. R07 was going through some rough times when writing EP7 and EP8 so admitted he kinda didn't get across what he wanted to properly. The manga extra chapters act as a way for him to go deeper into the motives and concepts he brushed through a little on the original VN run.
reminder that mion HATES cops
Just finished episode 4, can someone explain me it's cronology?Where the plots of Ange in Purgatorio and Ange in 1998 happening at the same time?How can Maria talk with Beatrice about Ange joining Mariage Sorciere if that just happens in the future?Did the scene where Virgilia recognizes Sakutaro happens right after Ange's talk with Maria in Purgatorio or is it a flashback?Is the part where Ange says that she doesn't recognize Sakutaro and that she wants to play outside also a flashback from Maria?Was the thing she shaw at the boat guy's house Sakutaro?
Shkanon is the best.
>>29649502None of it really happened :^). They are all metaphors
Reminder that if you haven't played Higurashi Jan, you haven't really experienced Higurashi.
>>29649502The meta elements take place after Ange jumps from the roof. Everything in school is a flashback. All of this will get more explanation later, but it's good to think about when this is happening and why.
>>29649502To the last one, yes. That is how she is able to revive Sakutaro.
>>29643698The supplemental information is what scares me off it a bit, with the entire VN constantly stressing its knox’s and van dyne’s aswell as a mystery being a shared trust between author and reader that there is something to be solved with just the information presented.I skimmed the ending and I feel like it might go against the spirit of the VN in giving a clear answer to the events on Rokkenjima
>>29649967Ryukishi has stated that the Manga is an official answer from him.
>>29649967Well the events that happened on the real Rokkenjima are pretty fucking clear, even in the VN. The manga just goes more in-depth into the backstory of Yasu, and provides a more clear explaination on how Yasu survived to get to the boat with battler in the magic ending. But even without that, the events of that night can be inferred without the manga.
>>29649967Well then how about this, read the manga up to episode 7, reflect on the story, come to a conclusion, and then read episode 8 of the manga and decide whether or not you trust R07 that what is being written is the truth. Part of that trust is trusting that what the author says is true.
>>29649967literally just this:>>29650080All the manga does is spell it out more clearly for retards. It adds a few details that don't change anything, but just give more understanding of what's already there. You're sounding like fucking italianon or "death of the author" autists.
>>29643698if you want a REAL SOLUTION to tricks and closed room read Erikantrice manifestoShkanontrice solution is only 1 EVERYONE IS THE CULPRIT since it cant explain nothing>>29649525ERIKANON THE BEST>>29649967disugusting anona mystery is a love story between reader and writer and you what do?nothing betrayl his love to coonsume >>29650080WTF the manga literrally change everything and make no sense.fillers everywhere so much that author was forced to change half of the story to make it works>>29650173>come to a conclusionyou are telling to a person to read umineko manga a conclusion to make him reach his own conclusion?disgutingAnon firs reread Umineko + read every possible theory and find your own idea>muh timefuck off Umineko is wirth everything
>>29649713>mfw the character designer from Bible Black did the art for Jan
>>29649967Ignore the rantings of Italianon, come to your own conclusions about what you believe the truth to be, and then decide whether or not you wish to read the manga.
>>29649967Ignore Italianon: >>29650691Come to your own conclusions, and don't let anyone bully you into believing one theory or another. In fact, don't even look at another theory until you have come to your own conclusion.
>>29651182>>29651302 A CONCLUSION CANT BE REACH IF YOU READ BY ONLY 1 SOURCE!!!!IGNORE THIS IDIOTS READ UMINEKO, READ ALL THEORIES .DONT LET THESE SCUM DECIDE FOR YOU
>trying to break through a steel door by bashing your head against itWhat went wrong bros?
>>29651392You are not a source. The only source anyone needs to read is this visual novel.
>>29651392You are only reading that so that you can poison anon's mind with your own conclusions. You just want to make more people believe your theory, by hook or by crook. This is you just trying to manipulate people into believing your theory.
>>29651392>A CONCLUSION CANT BE REACH IF YOU READ BY ONLY 1 SOURCE!!!!exactly. in order to reach the truth of umineko you need to read the manga as well :^)
>>29651515I am a sourceMy theory respect all red truth so is an alternative theory according with SiU>>29651554YES A POISON CALLED TRUTHA THEORY THAT MAKE MORE SENSE THEN ORIGINAL THIS IS WHY YOU ARE AFRAID OF MAKE HIM READ IT>>29651650I SAID IT 1000 TIMESI ALREADY READ THE MANGA AND THE BULLSHIT INSIDE IT MAKE ME DOUBT ABOUT SHKANONTRICETHANKS UMINEKO MANGA I HARDWORK TO FOUND OUT ERIKANTRICE
>>29649447but loves Oishii
>>29651786It's more like you are afraid of him drawing the more natural conclusion. This means that you don't believe your theory will hold up to any independent conclusion that he will draw, which is basically the same as saying that you don't believe in your own theory. Checkmate italianon, you just played yourself.
>>29652035>love the person who killed you and changed the crimes scene to make everyone belive that you are the culprit?Fake
>>29652045HOW CAN HE REACH THE NATURAL CONCLUSION IF HE READ THE MANGA?THE MANGA IS SHKANONTRICE MANIFESTOIF YOU MAKE HIM READ MY MANIFESTO AND TELL HIM THAT MY MANIFESTO IS THE TRUTH THEN HE WOULD BELIVE IN ERIKANTRICE AT 100%WITH YOUR DISGUTING SPOILERS YOU RUIN HIS OWN EXPERIENCE HE MUST READ ROSATRICE,ERIKANTRICE ECC.. THEN REREAD THE VN THIS IS THE ONLY METHOD TO MAKE HIM DECIDE ALONE
>>29651650not sure if maximum trolling or maximum retarded.either way an impressive post
>>29650014Yeah what now? He presented extra hints. Not a official solution.
>>29650014Like Lambda stated that Natsuhi theory was the truth during episode 5Why?BECAUSE A TRUTH THAT CANT BE FOUND AS NO RIGTH OF BE CALLED TRUTH
>>29651458Keiichi, much like Battler, completely misinterpreted the phrase, "Use you head".
>>29652552It is the official solution. It goes in great detail to spell every mystery in the game.
>>29561247Was bored and decided to add more shit to the iceberg. Browsed some of the /jp/ archives and investigated some of the more obscure stuff in the MEGA link. I spent quite a bit of time pondering as well, so I was able to remember a few other things as well. I'll probably wait for the next arc of Higurashi Gou to pass until I update the iceberg again, and even then, I can't guarantee I'll have gathered enough information to justify updating the iceberg.>But anon, isn't it getting a bit big?Yes, and I have no plans of stopping. This iceberg will expand until I have consumed every last bit of media written by Ryukishi and have seen the theories of every anon on this site. But I think I've hit a good point where I can stop for now. Enjoy anons.