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I just want another game with an atmosphere as specific and fruity as BaraKi. Sometimes dated things are good. It had this weird sincerity that I haven't seen much of since. I could say the same of Silver Chaos, which is close to my heart despite me being ambivalent towards every single boy.
>>28927148thanks for reminding me to play that.
About to start Pigeon Blood, what am I in for.
>>28936829How can you even stand to look at it? The art is so weird looking.
>>28937191Really? Looks like typical somewhat soulless commercial art to me, nothing too bad.
>>28927148I loved that game damn feels.>interesting plot>90s vibes thriller vibes>nice voice cast>you could pair up and fuck everyone with each other>threesomes>everyone could top and bottom>kaneko and tsuchida best bois + ship
>>28927148I didn't know that the writer for this game also did the art. People who can both draw and write well are too powerful.
>>28936829the only interesting thing in that game was >watching mc turn into a degenerate masochistic slut who only cared about getting dicked.>the dudes getting cucked in their routes by the dude who looks like ren from uta no pri
>>28939083the writer also wrote the plot for shingakko noli me tangere
>>28927148I just looked this up on vndb and I find it kind of funny how this got a 15+ psp version when the whole premise is MC trying to figure out who brutally raped him.
Do you guys have any games you really liked on release, but as time went by you realized they were actually not that good?I was around for when Hakuouki was first released in English, I got the special box set and everything. I was so hyped about it and as time went on I realized that the boys were really fucking boring and that I'd only been riding the high of a novel experience. I imagine this is how EOPs are currently.
>>28940031So which dude raped him
>>28941549I remember finding Bocchi Musume really entertaining back when it came out in English but I imagine it was not actually that good, it was just the first otome game I'd played in a couple years so yeah, there was a novelty factor with it.
Did you like him, guys?I actually really enjoyed his route.The other dudes were meh.
Incredible autism incoming re: Club Suicide, but I wanted to share some thoughts because it’s not like anything else is going onI liked it way more than I expected I would. I thought it would just be an opportunity to indulge my fucked up tastes and thought the writing quality would suffer taking the themes into account, but I was wrong. I was consistently entertained. The story can be chillingly cruel, but it also has plenty of heartwarming moments. The writing is pleasant, the music is great, though sparse, and the MC is both funny and cute. I wouldn’t hesitate to say that she’s her own person. It really is anti-romance, but in the sense that romantic love is the last thing on the MC’s mind and what she feels for the boys is closer to friendship or familial love than anything else. What the boys feel for her is another story altogether. The subject matter doesn’t lend itself well to romance, anyway. If it was compulsory, I’m sure it would’ve been shitty. Also, the engine it runs on, Tyrano, is a fucking dumpster fire. The read/unread text skip function doesn’t work, music sometimes plays at the wrong time, etc. There is no CG gallery or scene replay. The order I played the boys was: Masaya -> Mitsuki -> Eba -> Shiki -> Meiyou. I liked every single boy, and every seiyuu did a great job. There is no overarching plot, every route is self-contained, though each one has some kind of tidbit about some of the other boys that you wouldn’t learn on their own. But if I really had to say, Meiyou’s last two endings feel the most like “closure.” The format and brevity of each route was very nice for someone like me who only has small bursts of free time. That’s not to say that the game is short, though, I think it’s longer than the devs estimated it would be. However, there were a few moments when developments felt too abrupt and unconvincing, which were jarring when everything else flowed well. To say a few words: Masaya is kind and cute and never left my mind through the rest of my playthroughs. Mitsuki is moe, and I was surprised by the strength of what MC said in one of his endings. Eba’s issue is something that all artists can identify with. Shiki is special because there is a part of him that is drastically different from any of the others. Meiyou is obsessed with yuri, to put it plainly, and it’s kind of endearing, but also pretty weird. There is some kind of issue with his voice files sounding compressed, which is unfortunate because his seiyuu did such a good job. Not only did he bring out Meiyou’s unusual sensuality, but also his rage. The boys all have major flaws, and you might even have trouble understanding why they want to die so badly, and I found that realistic. Even when they work out their problems, they remain imperfect. Recommended playing order: Masaya -> Shiki -> Eba -> Mitsuki -> Meiyou (endings in numerical order)Boy ranking: Masaya > Meiyou > Mitsuki > Eba > ShikiShock value ranking: Meiyou >> Masaya = Shiki > Mitsuki >> Eba TL;DR It’s an unusually hot March. Don't play it if you want romance. Even the good endings are bittersweet, and if Meiyou’s last two endings are played last, that bittersweet feeling is doubled and tinged with a terrible irony. 8.7/10
>>28943679I've not finished it yet but I was really expecting it to be a trashy edgefest and it's not that at all.
>>28943408Yes, he prevented the VN from being a complete borefest. I liked his route and the twins too, plus I like Okamoto's voice.
I think he grabbed docs dick hereWe will now for sure in about 3 days
>>28943408Best route, starting with him was a mistake. Now I'm on Nicola's route and I'm pretty sure if he had a choice between having sex with Liliana or Dante, he'd pick the latter
How is olympia soiree? The premise and setting actually look interesting with a couple of really hot guys.
>>28960304His route gets funnier once Roberto becomes more prominent in it in and Yang pushes him to go even further.
>>28936829slow atmospheric psychological horrorinnocent slut wimp protagoniststockholm syndromepretty extreme bad ends
Do people here tend to like both BL and otome, or mostly just one?
>>28980737Only bland sluts stick to just one
>>28980737Mostly BL for me because I enjoy seeing the guys sexualized and objectified. I like the idea of otome but it isn't my thing most of the time.
>>28980737For me it's mainly whether it's R18 or not. There are few non-lewd otome games I liked, and non-lewd BL is just shit and unrealistic to boot.
>>28980737I enjoy both.
>>28980737I enjoy both, but tend to drift to the otome side more.
>>28980737I like both but I seem to enjoy BL games much more.
>>28980737I vastly prefer BL over otome but there's been otome games I've liked. Same deal with BL versus eroge aimed at men like Fate and Muv-luv.
>>28980737Both are fine. All age otome games are usually boring though.
>>28980737I prefer BL. And most otome I like are r18.
Damn, I'm gonna buy the fanbook once it comes out.
>>28985565There'll be an explanation of what happens to each guy outside of his route so it looks like the mystery of that scene with Meiyou towards the end of Mimi's route will be solved.
>>28980737I only like Otome but I've played Hadaka Shitsuji before after learning how much it made BLfags seethe.
>>28980737BL is gross so...
>>28986692That's great can't wait.A fandisk would be welcome.
I still can't believe this man did not get a route. Why we have to date the Hardy Boys and not the true detecive material?
>>28985565I want to know Meiyou's gender identity so fucking bad.
>>28987626Me too. Like what did Meiyou truly desired?What happened to him after ending 19? In general what happened to the boys after ''surviving''.
>>28987319So true. Yuzuru as well.
>>28980737Either, as long as the plot sounds interesting and the characters are cute.I definitely prefer cuteness over sexiness, but the shiny over-designed art they have in some games is a turn off.
>>28980737Just otome since I have no interest in gay sex or the art styles and darker aspects BL tends to have. If there was the equivalent of a BL moege I'd play the fuck out of it though since I like all kinds of romance.
Hey guys have you heard of / played Gunjou no Yuki?I found it by luck on vndb, while looking for Taisho Era pc games. It seems to be fully voiced. https://vndb.org/v16059
>>28987852 He kinda got a "route" in Unlimited but yeah, we were robbed of him too. Maybe in a future fandisk?
>>28988493If there's gonna be one... but it has quite the fandom so not impossible for another fandisk.Hope they add detective and yuzuru and some brain-damaged side characters. Would be fun!
>>28987012>BLfags seetheWhat do you even mean by this?
>>28988816They're probably talking about the tumblr ones that got butthurt over the game.
>>28988816This anon >>28988873 is correct. There was some major butthurt over this game from Tumblr over it and /blog/ was laughing at their misery over it. I picked up the game and had some good laughs myself. Game was pretty honest about what it wanted so it has a special place in my heart, as Otomefag.
>>28988873>>28989033are sure? tumblr seems to love hadaka lol.
>>28989584Really?Are they over about characters going through horrible shit? They chill with other BL games like Todaichi?
>>28989584It was years ago when it was first translated to be fair.
>>28989637I personally learned hadaka through tumblr.It's full of memes and shitposting but I haven't seen butthurt posts or karens writing essays about how bad this game is to the point of PTSD and demanding steam to get it down. maybe it happened on Twitter?
>>28989702>Satan's porno collection>Hadaka is about the patriarchyAlways gets me.But why is "Kakashi from Naruto" highlighted? They're right.
>>28989702Thanks anon, my sides are gone again. This is what I remember seeing years ago and what got me interested in playing Hadaka Shitsuji.>>28989810I think the Kakashi thing was highlighted to show what kind of people were crying about it. Kazuhiko Inoue has quite a long list of roles he's played but the entry level babbys can only name the Naruto one..
>>28989810People associating roles with other characters by the seiyuu instead of the seiyuu themselves is always a display of newfaggotry, especially when it's mainstream roles.
>>28989763Twitter right now is like a worse version of how Tumblr used to be, but it didn't house the bulk of the moral police crew back then the way Tumblr did. I imagine now that Tumblr is less popular it's back to 2000s style shamelessness, the way fanbases should be.
I found this a long time ago I couldn't stop laughing.
>>28989986I think this incident happened around the time when tumblr was banning porn and this was the new hotspot to post their modern standards.
>>28990012How do people survive being so immensely fragile?
>>28990019I think banning porn was fairly recent and only because of completely unrelated reasons (irl porn rather than the "core" user preference of drawn porn) because it got the app banned from the Apple store or something, so only a couple years back, while that shitstorm was right after it was translated and made accessible to EOPs.
>>28989702Hahaha, thanks anon made my day!>>28989986I don't believe there's anything worse than Twitter nowadays.No.. reddit is actually as bad... depends on the thread tho.
>>28988729 Honestly I would rather have a sequel than another fandsik but yes, Morioka and Yuzuru totally need a route! Who could be the brain damaged side character?
>>28990198Twitter and Reddit are the worst offenders for sure, but pretty much all social media is just irredeemable. 4chan included, of course.
I remember when a lot of games got banned from steam after karens went berserk. One bl got down too from ertal dj company.
>>28990347Even heard about Steam not allowing companies to promote 18+ patches too when it is released there.Which sucks.
Do you really want underage steamfags to touch your favorite games? Sometimes I look at the reviews written by people and think that gatekeeping is a great thing that should be done more.
>>28990415Who buys porno games from steam tho...dl is the solution.I remember some fags demanding from steam a censored hadaka shitsuji patch like... wut?
>>28990548Just looking at these threads now is proof gatekeeping should be done more.
>>28990330at least 4chan won't ban you for just expressing your degenerate opinion or for swearing... but yeah everything sucks nowadays.
Slow damage will release on Steam.How can will they censor Towa being a masochistic slut who enjoys self-harming, getting choked, and dicked?
>>28990739I was about to say that would never happen but then I remembered that TnC and Sweet Pool are on there. Everything but sex is fair game.
>>28990739They'll just remove the CGs.
>>28990783Even without sex, steamfags will go reeee about towa self-harming and enjoy it. And then steamfags karen parents will go all over the news and social media bitching that this game caused their kids retardedness and crippling depression.
>>28990548The great dilemma. Want favorite games to get funded but don't want to attract cancerous fanbases
>>28990562What's wrong with buying porn on steam? Who the fuck will know or care about that
>>28993214>caring about the western fanbase and letting its state affect your enjoyment of the gameDo you also read youtube comments
>>28993909Only if your steam is not attached to your real life in any way. If you have family or people who know you in real life it would be extremely inappropriate.
>>28993909why buy censored porn?
>>28995161>caring about the western fanbase and letting its state affect your enjoyment of the gameThis is what I do, it keeps me away from idolshit
>>28990739imagine paying real money for eroge that has censored/removed content. is this the absolute state of EOPs? shiggy diggy doo>>28980737I only play BL and regular vns (MLA, subahibi etc). I have no interest in otome and will likely never play an otome gamecan somebody tell me if si-nis-kanto is worth playing
>>28990739Games like Hadaka Shitsuji and NTY/Room No. 9 are on Steam uncensored. If JAST is publishing then they'll probably do a 18+ patch that you have to buy separately.
>>28995563The only good thing about EOP eroge version is that they remove the mosaic. Uncensored dicks are always welcome. + Cheaper than nip version. But paying steam money to buy a censored eroge with removed sex scenes and CG just bc it's in English... that's lame. Even getting that as a gift is an insult.
>>28980737i like both
>>28980737BL because otome games aren't edgy enough
>>28997048This. I was really disappointed when I tried Amnesia and Toma wasn't even a fully-fledged yandere. Also, self insert MCs are lame.
>>28997048Doujin games are where all the edge/shit that wouldn't fly in anything made by a full-fledged company is at.
>>28998058>doujin gamesname one (one game) thats actually edgy and not just gross or cuckshit
>>28998164Aren't those kinshiiku games people talk about pretty edgy?
>>28998164Actually, I can't think of anything that's just straight up tacky in its edginess like something you'd see on DA in the mid 00s, but yeah, kinshiiku games can get pretty edgy at times (mainly their older games). They're more just uncomfortable in my opinion than edgy, though. As an example, you have some really unpleasant torture scenes with gore in Majo and child slave trafficking in Suregaru. I haven't started playing pic related or any other games from Succulent yet, but they look pretty promising.
>>28998937>処女じゃないなら死んでくれIncels are writing otome now?
>>28997048Choudoku was good. My otome kamige. Some not that famous rejet works are pretty fucked up and some old but gold Takuyo works as well.
>>29001448Do people actually find these funny?
Do you ever make blogshit based fanart or fanfiction?
>>28990739Great, an extra 5 buckaroos without regional discounts for the non neutered game.
>>29004488Yes. I take my favorite ship, write a partially erotic fanfiction about these characters, save it in a word file and keep it on my pc.
>>28990739>>29005575If sweet pool is any indication you'll just be able to buy the complete version from Jast's own download store anyway.
>>29001448Get this cringy shit out of here please
>>28980737Otome because I’m an autist who likes self insert and hate seeing my man with other men (and women too so fuck rival stuff)
>>28989702Now I want to replay it.
>>28989702Tomoaki was the savior BL needed.
>>29004488Unironically I was thinking about drawing something for Pocky Day.
>>29004488I draw a decent amount, so if I happen to be into blogshit, it feels natural to do fanart for it.
>>29001448It's funny how this pretends that they are not among the Twitter tourists they complain about
>>29001448don't know what's more cringethe cringe eng dub or the kpop references.
>>29001448>watching this in the first placeSisbro...
>>29020156lmao it's funny
>>29020291go back to twitter
Is Mitsuki Kugajima gay? I can't tell.
>>29020291In what universe
How did you find Diabolik lovers fags, come on be honest
>>29022082I liked Reiji and still do but the franchise got so much shit which is hard to keep up with, it’s not worth it just for one character
>>29022082I'm a do-m pig with shitty japanese so I'll take what I can. The first games were okay
>>29022082As a huge do-M, I listened to a few of the CDs and didn't care for it. It's just too ridiculous for me.
This is your potential RF5 husband
>>29022082It was trashy as hell, the plot was stupid, and I really didn't like it overall but I have a soft spot for Laito, even now. I think he's the weirdest and grossest of the bunch, and I thought it was funny how he called the MC ビッチちゃん. He's also one of the few Hirakawa characters I could stand.
>>29022082I'm not a M but I played it and it was the funniest shit I've ever read
>>29022082I'm on the do-S side so I didn't bother playing it. Some episodes of the anime were funny though.
I just want more deep voiced seiyuus in otome games.Too many twinks and bishie shit. I want a man man.
I don't know what's worse. Kaji Yuki or Morikubo. I seriously prefer listening to kakihara, he leveled up in my eyes after voicing this fag.
>>29028461based and fucking same give me MEN
>>29028703I think Kaji Yuki only voiced one character I like, and he isn't even from something /blog/ related.
>>29028461Based.This dudes voice is god-tier. Manly and sexy.
>>29022971I was expecting Yamashita Daiki, but Murase works too I guess.
>>29028461I want Sakurai Tooru doing more stuff. His voice is so pleasant. I also want Hamada Kenji, but sadly he seems to have given up on VN things.
>>29028461I just want more Hosoya
i know like half of the alphabet (hiragana) and i have a dictionary, would it be a waste of time to download ken ga kimi and peck through it with a text hooker (those are the things that let you search what a character means, right)? i don't mind if it will take a while. but i feel like i'd be learning something at least.
>>29037608Anon please, if you don't even know hiragana you're going to be in hell. Go read a shoujo manga or something.
>>29037608Hiragana isn't that fucking hard to learn, it shouldn't take you over a week to do it. I can't imagine trying to read without already knowing them. Like that other Anon said, try something lighter first.Hooking and mouseover dictionaries can speed up reading a lot but can also encourage you to form bad habits and forget new words as soon as you finish the sentence, so I'd use it sparingly when you eventually do decide to start reading VNs or else you'll be reading a lot but retaining essentially nothing, moon knowledge-wise.
>>29028703He sounded pretty good in bee fuckers, I agree.
>>29022971He's cute, and Murase is a decent choice as far as voices go. Wish he did more lewds outside of BL. Sounded nice in Kare Pillow.
>>29037608At least do enough self-studying first so that you can read basic sentences such as "弟は事件を起こしました。" unassisted, cause otherwise you'll end up literally having to look up every single thing which will drain out any fun you could be having, among other issues.
>>28980737As a super gay homosexual fag: just BL.
>protagonist>engages in: cleaning, cooking
>>29062491I'm so tired of Otomate MCs
>>29062491Cooking is an actual hobby and life skill, but most of the time it's just a means to an end to make MC submissive mommy bitchmaid #896583. Boring.
>>29062491>gets kidnapped by a sexy murderous bitch called yang>how about I cook something for everyone tehee>plot time>mc is at home cookingPiofiore is sure fun
>interested in drama cd series>can't buy it anywhere since proxy services refuse to work with seller>the only download is seemingly on otomedreamjust fuck my shit up senpai
>>29071352It must be horrifically obscure and/or fucked up if all this is the case. What is it?
>>29071352That fucking chink site has everything even the light novels you can no longer buy anywhere. I wonder if there's a fag here who knows chink dialect and has access to that site and willing to share some things fags want here... we could built a statue for that based anon for thanks.
>>29072152it's a drama cd series called 螺湮城新伝the premise itself seems really interesting and the cast has some good designs and top notch voices involvedthe series seems dead in the water though with only 2 chapters released for sale, but i still wanted to check them out
>>29071352Is it available on Dlsite or any digital drama cd site? You should check them out if you didn’t
Is cafe enchante good?
>>29066571+>gets abducted after falling for the bait every fucking time>husbando may be a pimp, drug dealer, rapist, and murderer but deep down he has a good heart, and he ronery>cooking for the mafias wash the dishes do cleaning and at night get dicked (depends on his mood tho)
>>29022082I somehow stumbled into amnesia on youtube in like 2013 or something and when I finished diabolik lovers got recommended to me. They were what introduced me to otome, I remember being confused but weirdly intrigued
>>29072876try a forwarding service instead?
Slow damage manga ch 2 comes out today, right?
Hashihime last routeYoo, this is my fetish.
>>29080201ye, already read itgod I love how much of a degenerate slut Towa is
Slow damage manga is out.Towa's not a virgin. He gets dicked in dirty alleys by dudes he meets in the bar he goes. He enjoys it. INCUMMING GOTY FAGS nitro did it this time
>>29091455Jesus Christ. I'm excited for this.
>>29091455so fucking based
>>29091455This is going to be goodOr at least interesting
>>29093226Even if it's bad I'm 100% sure I will cum.
>>29093377If it's bad, it'll be so bad it's good
It's a good start.Mc is not a tsundere homo in denial who thinks his hole is only for poo poo. Instead MC is a confirmed horny slut with psychological problems. LIs are hot too. Even the ones who looked kuso potential look interesting. Okamas cute and hobo will probably have the most degenerate cg and be good at dicking.
>>29094530At this point, chiral should just do high quality nukige, just tons of hot and extremely varied sex scenes, their stories haven't been good in forever.
>>29091455inb4 somehow it makes nips seethe and the game flops (can such a niche product even flop in the first place)
>>29111986>edgy >slut mcWhy would it flop? These are the elements fujos eat up. >Omerta has both>Lucky Dog is edgy in some routes and mc is an eternal slut>Togainu is edgy and mc becomes a slut in the most popular endings>Taisho mebiusline can be both depending on the route and endingThe former two have a non virgin mc who'd offer their asshole in exchange for tasty food
>>29112724快楽堕ち and the protagonist being a slut from the start are very different if we're talking nip autism about such things.Same with the difference between 童貞 and 処女.
>>29112945Fine, as I said two of the most popular fujo games that are always in top 10 in any polls are Omerta and Lucky dog that both feature town bicycles. Manga trends have also changed since togainu, we now have slut leads and guys that instead of "only u" claim to be bisexual, or homos that awakened to the beauty of the dick
Speaking of Piofiore, is anyone playing or waiting for fd?
Otome needs the equivalent of 処女厨 for the guys (is 童貞厨 even a thing?). I'm tired of seeing playboy characters or promiscuous guys in otome in general, they should only be slutty for (You).
https://twitter.com/Celtia_Inc/status/1327189464381231107People are saying that the new voice is a 6th character for the mobile version. I'd feel a weird if this were the case, but I would probably get it anyway. It's cheap, and it seems like the author has been meaning to throw in a bunch of shit that they couldn't originally, based on how much they want to put in the fanbook.Also trying to figure out who the voice is and I have no idea whatsoever.
>>29116147If 童貞厨 aren't a thing, we should make them a thing. We'll step forward and lead the movement.
>>29116147>they should only be slutty for (You).Isn't that usually the case. Very rarely are the sluts in these games legitimate sluts who go after anyone else after meeting (You)
I believe nip fujoshi have evolved. N.1 yaoi manga in Japan is Saezuru tori, where mc is a degenerate slut from the very beginning. And Yarichin bitch club is very famous with the slutty schoolboys. Being fed so many years with tsundere virgin ukes, even nips got bored lol.Towa being a slut from the beginning means no vanilla sex. He will take the upper hand like sucking okamas dick in a dirty alley or have BDSM sex with hobo, being hungry for cock 24/7. They might make okama a doutei tho and Towa riding him. That would be hot and nip fujoshi approved. Btw believe it or not Gian was ass virgin. He wasn't being autistic about it tho. He gladly accepted the dick. And Kyoichiro riding bigdick crippling depression blonde dude was hawt. Towa being a virgin wouldn't fit at all. Like he is such an edgy character loves pain but sex is no no? Mediocre.Towa being a slut from the start and try to get dicked by the other dudes and seduce them with his sluttiness and masochism? Godtier
>>29117013I don't think it's a new character. Maybe side character singing? (that was so cringing tho and i love that game).Put more stuff ? That would be interesting! But what could they put? When will the fanbook come out?
>>29120678Giant had sex with the prison guard
So far from my playthrough I didn't get the impression that Gian pursued men like Haru from NTY did, though it's true that he doesn't make a big fuss about sleeping with guys, which I appreciated.
>>29123873Yeah, he fucked that prison guard slut and raped the other dude with the glasses in prison. But he never got fucked before.
>>29121653If I'm understanding correctly, people are speculating a 6th route because the decoded text implies that there is one person「彼」 who sees 6 others. Since the mystery of who posted the flier for the club was never solved, maybe it's him? It would make sense. And the singing definitely wasn't pro but I thought it was cute all the same. No release date on the book, also.
>>29124734Now that you mention it, that's true, we didn't get a clear image about who posted the ad for kurasudo. I thought it was yurifag but it wasn't clear. Hope they make a patch for that character for pc too. I hate tiny screens but still, i will gladly buy the app. More chances for EOP companies to pick up the game. More people will know about the game. Can't wait for the fanbook damn.
>>29124734Btw the text死を求める少年�死を観る罪の果�六つの陰に生を見た彼は�?る死体だっ��
>>29124734I'm kind of conflicted about this, I'd definitely buy a sixth route but I thought Meiyou's endings were better under the assumption that he was the culprit.
>>29125972>>29127552I'd considered this due to how "endgame" Meiyou feels but at some point I got so caught up in other aspects of him that I forgot about it altogether. The seiyuu also seem to be hinting that there are more CGs so I might end up buying it regardless if there is a 6th route or not.
teach me jpn
>>29150072download anki and read everyday. in 3 years you get to join us in laughing at EOPs and their suffering (if you didn't slack off)
>>29151782>Anon...Yes? It took me personally less than a year of doing anki and reading every day to pass n2 and get to a level at which I could read with little to no issues but that was because I was a hikineet who read all day. For the average wagekek or non-autist it should take around 3 years to get to a proficient level (seems to be the most commonly thrown around timeframe for learning any language, not limited to jap so I don't see why you'd take issue with this)It's definitely not impossible to do it in a shorter amount of time if you're motivated though
>>29152908True, I forgot wagecucks existed.
>>29150072Learn kana, basic and important grammar. Start with tokimemo and shoujo manga along with memorizing kanji with Anki and slowly learning more grammar
>>29152908How did you get out of hikineetdom
Anyone playing the piofiore fandisk?
>>29185531Go ask leddit or something
>>29186903true, we don't like untranslated games here
Otome Reddit threads fanbase is autismo over 90000>most play eop free otome apps >piracy is devils work (and visual novel reader)>insta ban if talking about or asking for games they find ''inappropriate'' (i don't mean kinshiku or mashou megane level)>no rape!!! (but yang is still husbando tehee so piofiore and rejet games are ok desu)>worship code realize and morikubo>kaji yuki and kakihara best seiyuu>collar x malice is kamige>very fucking ugly fanart>most annoying members are around their 20s 30s and into vanilla yaoi >spamming companies and staff members links of their pirated games on Twitter or ask them to take action over ''degenerate'' fanart-dj.
>>29189018>>piracy is devils work (and visual novel reader)Not seeing the problem desu
>>29189018>morikubo and kakiharaSo they're deaf?
>>29189018>no rape!!! (but yang is still husbandoWhat mental gymnastics do they perform to justify this?
>>29189018It's not just their surface-level interests and moralfagging, but their typing style alone reeks of being a complete normalfag. Don't know why, but most of the posts on there annoy me just from the way they type. Yeah, I'm just an autistic nerd shitposting on Chinese imageboards, but I can take a little pride in the fact that I'm not posting on leddit about mobage kusoge.
>>29189018I took a peek in there yesterday out of morbid curiosity and everyone has garbage taste. Even when I found someone that was playing something other than Piofiore/Collar x Malice and wasn't an EOP, they sounded like the kind of person who brags about being a "fandom mom." I'd eat a faceful of bullets before resorting to posting there.
Here is an example of a man of culture who doesn't know about this thread and had to ask Reddit for help.https://www.reddit.com/r/otomegames/comments/d0qzb4/degenerate_trash_here_can_anybody_point_me_to/
>>29191131>manI understand your intention but there's no need to pretend when its some random leddit poster rather than someone here.
For them piofiore and kissed by the baddest bidder are so ''dark'' and ''fucked up''.I guess they would go to therapy for ptsd the next day if they tried most games this thread likes.
>>29191131I think this person does indeed know the gospel. I respect them for knowing exactly what they want and for being able to explain it so eloquently, but it's too bad they had to set up camp in there of all places.
>>29191131>rape scenariosOk.>the girl gets rapedYawn.
>>29189018>>piracy is devils work (and visual novel reader)I mean they are not wrong in otome and BL cases, we get so little that every sale helps.
>>29191131>Linking your r****t post hereCan some of you homosexuals just admit that you frequent there and get out
>>29186803>bloody knucklesdoes this take place after the other cg where they're fighting and they decide to fuck instead?
Are there any character types you've always wanted to see but haven't, or haven't been done the way you want?inb4 crossdresser who stays that way
>>29176950I didn't. I was a hikineet at the time and still am (and undoubtedly will be until I sudoku) I just thought the sentence sounded more natural with past tensenow please tell me if si-nis-kanto is a 50+ hr kusoge or if it's worth playing
>>29193760basedalso it is worth playing but it's a 50hr kusoge too
So no otome in 2021 with a confirmed date except Debut and Jack Jeanne. And some Otomate trash maybe. No wonder the modern underage go to mobage instead. Fucking dead hobby
>>29193596Neurotic weirdos, chronic fuckups, arrogant characters executed in a way where the narrative mocks their behavior rather than glorifying it, but really I just wish there were more "normal" characters rather than a million variations on the same "im reliable Man ill mamoru u bb [thirty minutes of meaningless cheesy lines to make anyone pity the poor sap who had to read these out loud]" routine every route eventually devolves into.
I miss rejet kusoge...Not like diabolik lovers more like alice = alice, gekka ryouran romance...
>>29194634alice = alice was hilariously retarded, and I unironically really liked both the rabbit routes.even if one of them is unwashed
>>29194613It would be annoying as fuck to have that in otome because you just know the MC is going to be a retarded pushover who excuses everything they do and bends over backwards for them no matter how poorly they treat her.
>>29193596>>29194613 beat me to it in just about every single way. Also, it was kind of just a taste of it, but despite UruC's weird writing, I liked how destructively obsessed Juro was with Yomi, emphasis on destructively and I want to see more stuff like it.I also would not mind more crossdressers who stay crossdressers :^)>>29194491Sounds to me like it's time to dig up whatever's at the bottom of DLsite.
>>29195162I guess that's true, but I'm just going to be optimistic and assume that if a game were willing to not do the whole uwu ideal perfect ikemen song and dance they'd also actually bother having a real protagonist with an actual personality and interesting dynamic with the LIs.Probably.
>>29195373Then it might be an interesting trainwreck to watch.
>>29195474Trainwrecks are basically what multiple-choice storytelling is made for and I'm thoroughly saddened by how uncommon it is for kusoge to actually commit to going full retard.I want a yandere game with a Sierra point and click-style amount of retarded unpredictable bad endings.
>>29194634I want to fuck a cat
>>29193596I loved the characters from chou no doku a lot.And mc character development depending on the ending and route.The butler was perfect until they pulled out the sucky milky fetish. A diaper fetish would more acceptable. But I loved how he turned into a masochist slut, especially on the fandisk (if I remember correctly she even fingered him while riding on his back) .Majima was god-tier. The other bro was interesting as well, I think his seiyuu was the problem. Shiba was ok I liked how possessive he was and the seiyuu did a good job but that boohoo sad backstory was meh and I would rather not cheat on him but cheat others for him. Like cheating autistic glasses bc he is poorfag and boring. Autistic glasses Hideo was ok to meh. I'd rather ntr him for Shiba or my bro lol.
>>29193596I found out that I like characters who are both carefree but also kinda hetare and useless. I've been watching the Master Mosquiton OVA recently and I love how Mosquiton is just this hetare dude that's completely henpecked by the main character but also happens to be cool at the same time (he's voiced by Koyasu, which is a plus).This probably doesn't appeal to most people for obvious reasons, but characters who have a laser-focus obsession with an ideal, like justice. There's something about a character who would definitely pull the lever if presented with the trolley problem because they have an unshakeable belief that what they're doing is correct (though they'd get upset about it after) that is moe.I want shotajijis with deep voices. In general, I want more characters with deeper voices. A character voiced by Jouji Nakata would be the best.Also, this >>29194613 post.Smelly autistic weirdos are the best.
>>29199888>laser-focus obsesssion with an ideal, like justiceThis is the good stuff. The rich, nauseatingly palpable weight placed over these characters when they realize that what they were doing the entire time was misguided is such a beautiful thing.
>>29192426I think so. Probably Toa got horny after getting beaten and now he wants dick for dessert.
>Downloaded a situation voice without reading too closely>It had scat>Kind of liked itBros, I fucked up. Any games with scat? Unironically.
>>29205805Room No. 9
>>29195317The third route of UruC was the only one I really got into, I love characters like Juurou.
>>29191887*pirates your favorite game*Checkmate
>>29194613I want to fuck Jacopo with no shower on
>>29206676Not like he got the chance to bathe often.Imagine the smell.
>>29206768>dirty and smelly>wife beating hobo lolicon >caused his crush to go through hell and a hundred years of sufferingPeak husbando material
>>29194613You might like Majo, Zaijouin is kind of similar to the third type you listed.
>>29206884Requiem was such kino, I love complete downwards spiral-style tragedies like that.>>29206937I've played Hebi no Cinderella by that artist/group(? I think it's the same person handling everything) and it was pretty good, but as part of the 3rd world cancer single-handedly killing VNs I haven't had the chance to check out that one.I guess I prefer my boys on the wretched side but the cum jar thing sounds a bit too over the top to me. I'm more of an "unearthing your waifu's grave" type.
>>29189018>most annoying members are around their 20s 30sI would have guessed it's underages all the way down, huh.
Aren't women in their 20s -early 30s are basically the biggest audience for otome games?
>>29207325The cum jar is shocking but pretty minor in the scale of things.>>29214908At the very least they're the ones with the actual money to pay for stuff.
>>29214908Only for smartphone games, where being able to play in short bursts in between work/raising kids is optimal. The demographic for console games is still younger.
Are there any other BL games as good as this? I'm not particularly into BL, so I haven't read many, but this is the only one that felt like it was on the same level as the best "normal" VNs. I've tried reading a few Nitro+Chiral games, for example, and I thought they were pretty mediocre. I'll take recommendations for Otome games as well if there are any of this caliber.
>>29226025I'm pretty sure the bulk of the audience is 20+ across the board.
>>29206639I don't care if people do, I'm saying there is an argument to be made in this particular case.
Okay, one route of Olympia done.This game should basically be called: how scenic vistas, nice backgrounds and pretty people hide a fucked up dystopic caste system where people get constantly executed.It was actually really well developed in that regard. It's fucked up, but it's actually necessary for it to be that way, since otherwise their world could come to an end by diluting the primary colors. So from a setting standpoint this VN is actually pretty fucking interesting.Also the heroine just turned this block headed easily embarrassed tsundere mega virgin into a super horny idiot through rape after a whole route of "gotta respect you". I just love reverse rape.
>>29227213This is the dude I like most based on visuals and vague personality summaries, I'm glad to hear things developed so nicely.
>>29226739If you mean in english I think Hashihime is the best you're going to get at this current time.
>>29226739The short answer is no. The long answer is that there are a few games that are great if you lower your standards a bit. I liked Omega Vampire despite generally disliking ABO because I love absurd camp, but I don't think many people share that taste. Regarding otome, I don't think there's a game that's universally regarded as good the way Hashihime is, they tend to be godly in some areas and seriously lacking in others. The best games tend to be ones that are sort of floating in the almost otome/BL zone. I hope you know moon.
>>29227213no satan anon you won't persuade me to use emulator and google translate
My memory is foggy. When did we become a thread that caters to EOPs?
EOPS can at least delay sudoku by waiting for eng patch or translation for their kusoge.
>>29230718We've been getting waves of people that sound new for a while now, I assume someone must've talked about the general on /v/ or some shit.
>>29230889>being a EOP will prolong your life>Dekinai-chan was the good guys all along
>>29227703His route was, sadly, kinda lacking on romance, which is a shame because he looks like utapri's Masato which is a look I dig.He has so many issues and problems with his position in the setting they only act cute together towards the end, especially since the heroine was pretty dense and he's tsundere as all fuck.
How do you feel about the term 夢女子?
>>29231008>Masato which is a look I digYou have good taste. Bummer about the romance, but at least the worldbuilding sounds good. On the topic of the heroine, is she brain problems dense, or just cute dense?
I >>29231008>>29231671I thought I was the only one who liked this kind of fags. I read once a uta no pri dj where he is getting dicked by 2 dicks at the same time. Hot.
>>29226739People usually mention Taishou Mebiusline and Shingakkou for games with good story. I haven't played the latter but Mebiusline is pretty good. I think compared to Hashihime it has far less appeal for people who aren't into BL though.Neither have english TLs but Mebiusline has a russian one.As for otome nope basically nothing. If you feel like setting it up with a PSP emulator and such, Shinigami to Shoujo has some similar elements to Hashihime with the literary theming and some of the plot (no time travel, though there is a lot of wild plot twists). It has a VNR translation though it's not complete if I remember right.But to be honest I think Hashihime is more interesting than any of these games even though it has some bad routes.
>>29230889But what if sudokuing lets them be reborn as someone who can speak Japanese? It might be faster based on how much some of them complain.
>>29231828>reborn as someone who can speak nip>sudoku againRecycle
>>29231671I mean, the romance delivers, just later than I hoped, but the game priorizes the plot/setting HARD.>is she brain problems dense, or just cute dense?I mean, she legit got FRIENDZONED as far as she was concerned, a literal>w-well, if we are friends then it's ok to be with you and I'm not breaking my vows of no women until 30then she's about to get kidnapped, the guy saves her and in the trial where he's being judged he just goes, says he loves her and she goes WHATFrom a meta perspective, it was evident, but storywise the guy had been hard rejecting her due to conditioning, at least externally. So she's only a bit dense.
Looking for info on otome consumers but they're all about apps now lel, ded hobbyhttps://www.4gamer.net/games/999/G999905/20180702011/
For me? It's unvoiced doujin games with questionable art.
>>29236398Based.If that's what it takes to get something outside of lowest common denominator mediocrity that appeases any but doesn't focus on anything then so be it.
fanbook or app CG maybe
>>29236398This is the only correct choice.Low-budget doujin games are full of SOUL.
the 6th character?
>>29236791I dkn't like that he looks like a typical anime character
>>29236398Absolutely correct. Wonky art often means it's a passion project made solo by someone more interested in writing.
>>29236791If this is actually the 6th character that people are speculating, then I'm not a fan of the look because it's so absurdly not-normal compared to everyone else. Where are you getting these from, anyway?
>>29230718When this thread stopped being so dead, I assume.
you know which game he from?
>>29243877Kami Naru Kimi To
>>29249262Thanks! is it good?
>>29249355Not that anon and didn’t finish it, but I remember finding the common route surprisingly funny and Narumi was cute.
>>29249355It's one of my favorite Otomate games. Rei has the best route despite looking like a gremlin.
>>29253524>>29269862Thanks, guys I will give it a try.
If you want to read slow damage manga in English, it's available on Tumblr. They did a good job, the translator. There are some mistakes they said so themselves, that they rushed to do it bc fags were impatient.Spoilers>Like all nitro MCS, Towa also has a power. He can see a smoke emitting from people and the color changes depending on their mood, feelings. Red smoke means very angry for example. Towa uses his power to inspire his art, probably.>Towa is the illegitimate child of the leader of that group that rules the city, who died as said on the news. (it's not translated correctly in the manga, that towa was his illegitimate son).
>>29279936>He can see smoke emitting from people and the color changes depending on their mood, feelings. Red smoke means very angry for example. Towa uses his power to inspire his art, probably.>Hajima Sora had it and it turned him into a hikkineet>Towa becomes a cockhungry degenerate insteaddifference in power levels
Wtf fags slow damage won't be full-voiced
>>29285646Source or bullshit
>>29287509探索パート means partial that term is used
Which BL/Otome guy has canonically the biggest dick?
>>29291582 otomechoudoku the butlerblonde guy in higanbana yoshiwarabltaisho the blonde dude (he is even depressed about it)luca from omertaalpha vampire from omega vampire
Otome with reverse rape? It doesn't have to be r18.
>>29292413Tsubasa no Oka has some on the glasses butler route.
So in the end, slow damage is fully voiced or not?
>>29291582Isshiki's dick is bigger than Hanazawa's.
They announced slow damage's english translation won't be out until a few montha later
>>29302532>just a few monthsnot bad
>>29302532Dekinai chan was the good guy all along.
>>29307877Right. Canonically bigger than "A child's arm" Hanazawa.>>29291735>taisho the blonde dude (he is even depressed about it)How big?
>>29317072>how bigto the point virgin mc had to ride him otherwise blondie wouldn't dick him
>>29317072It's officially relative to height order.
I need some help. A girl who came by work today said I look like a character from a VN, but she kind of got too embarrassed and ran before telling me what VN it was (and by the way she spoke, there is some dating, maybe porn in there). What she told me is:>Character I look like is called Arthur (maybe Artur or other variant)>It's about a lawyer girl and it has 3 dudes If it helps, for context, I'm white, with dark hair around shoulder length. I don't know many VNs and certainly I don't fit into any I have played, so I'm rather curious about this.
>>29326320This (vndb.org/v6267) EVN is the most likely as it's the only otome game on vndb with a lawyer protagonist and has three dateable guys, only thing is there's no character called Arthur.There's a chance it's some totally different mobile game that isn't listed there.
Why would you reply to that post
Well I've done 2 routes and the game's a little boring (though romance parts were unexpectedly cute, Hirotsugu is basically a middle-schooler, kek). It's bizarre how polite MC is to his wannabe rapists, but I guess it's his charm point. Kaoru did nothing wrong.The spooky supernatural part was going well until Oomori shows up and ruins the mood with DUDE MAGIC SWORD LMAO. I was expecting him to die horribly to show how spooky the demon is, but his ossan moe powers saved him.I suppose Mimasaka's route is the infodump one where everything gets explained in detail but I don't want to read it, they'll inevitably give him some boohoo it's not my fault I'm a psychopath backstory, won't they.
>>29329546Which ones have you done?
>>29327457 I don't feel like it's this one, since she did say the name of the character. But thanks for the help.
>>29330012Mizusawa and Yukinomiya, though I'm missing some bad ends in both
>>29326320I'm fairly sure she is talking about the truck driver rapist that's into shota looking guys from hadaka shitsuji
>>29317072Massive but he's also an extreme cuck who starts crying and gets hard when his girlfriends fuck other guys, he's also into mommy play and drinking MC's breast milk so that's not hot
stopped reading at "thats not hot"
>>29302532I'll rely on our JOP overlords to tell me if it's shit then.
>>29354807It's okay to have a diaper fetish
Does hashihime psvita version include after stories guys? How different is it from pc one?And can i read the extra stories translation somewhere (if it exists)?
>>29354807>stopped reading where the post endedyeah no shit
>>29185531The writing is better than the first game so there's that at least. It's worth getting if you liked any of the characters.
>>29302532Won't it take that long for the jp version to get cracked anyways?
>>29377577That is not the issue here
>>29291582Takara from Paradise literally killed people with his dick.
>>29329546>>29332082>they'll inevitably give him some boohoo it's not my fault I'm a psychopath backstory, won't they.Indeed.You should do Tachibana's route at least, it's the best by far. (though IIRC one of his endings is locked until you've finished the other guys? a shame. But either routes were pretty good.) Also you'll get to see Mimasaka being pathetic and Kazuki not being a complete useless wimp for a change.But yeah, plot-wise Mizusawa and Yukinomiya are probably the shallowest routes, though they're nice and romantic. (I liked all the exposition about the lives of japanese aristocratic scions in Yukinomiya's too, honestly more interesting than the stupid plot.)
>>29381029I did not remember that part but you know I'd believe it.
>>29381224Tachibana's route was so much fun. Also it felt like the only one where they really commited to the slasher movie thing and actually had major characters killed off.Everyone was out of character compared to the rest of the game but I liked that route's versions more anyway so I didn't care. Especially pathetic alcoholic Mimasaka.
>>29381290It's in Kiwame, though his monster cock really started being emphasized in Musubi. Canonically "the size of a small child's arm", and bigger than Azuma's head if the CG is to be trusted.He talked about how he would fuck his prey to death because they're going to be eaten anyway so who cares if they get ruined in the process. He practically breaks Azuma despite pouring a whole bottle of lube in him beforehand, it was wild.