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Saku edition
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ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Booru:https://erikce.booru.org

Is the real truth of Umineko

Ok guys my manifesto is completed
so how i can made ryukishi discover it?
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I saw posts here celebrating the birthdays of Shion, Mion and Rena but nobody remembered Hanyu's? Mean.
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>>25150178
there's something strangely erotic about Lion
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>>25150538
she is a cute tomboy anon is normal
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To all collectors.
There's list of all 07th Expansion music from last decade. Orange is what I already have, green are missed. Somebody have any of those?
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What's this from? Looks like a cropped mobile game screenshot.
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>>25150178
if you haven't read it in japanese your theory means jackshit anyway
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>>25151997
>dont read
>your theory is wrong
read umineko fucking goat since you dont understand nothing of it
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>>25152148
>if you haven't read it in japanese
>in japanese
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>>25150810
Akoustika II & III and The Last Omerta
https://mega.nz/folder/8F8kgQAa#3l_Yh_sXdPpnzVfBn2rYFw
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I will post this every thread until my soulmate, Rena Ryuugu, is real.
#5
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>>25153277
remember that time ange survived only because she had torrential diarrhea which prevented her from going to rokkenjima the day of the incident.
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>>25154462
When did Shannon do this face on the PS3 version? I played the OG, there were no face like this.
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>>25154568
heheheh.
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>>25153826
"Healthy molars you got there Rika."
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>>25154786
bad meme.
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>>25154816
Meme
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>>25154568
It's photoshopped.
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Damn this one is good. Wish it played during Richard vs Gabriel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH8d-WRwvh0&list=PLnfa_HdbN_GM7Tkk4G31NNeG7lVHHU6cy&index=2&t=0s
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>>25154882
SAO opening
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>>25154940
Well this one then
https://youtu.be/_jC5fxma1aU
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>>25154568
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It's been years since I heard this song, so it may as well be my first time listen. Suprisingly it instills quite distressing mood, makes me wonder if adaptation is worth rewatch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcWrBupAk
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>>25155169
I wonder if it's even worth a watch
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>>25155202
I guess not, my memories are faulty. I stopped watching it past the beginning of second season
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>>25155169
>>25155202
I'd rather watch DEEN's Higurashi than read the rest of Ciconia. I bet most of you would've dropped that shit in a heartbeat if not for the WTC/R07 name.
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>>25154869
Ooh. I saw it too much, so I assumed that it was originally on the PS3 assets.
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>>25155434
Not even close. I had a lot of fun with Ciconia.
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>>25155434
I know I would have. His name and track recrod is the only reason I'm "looking forward" to phase 2, hoping that it turns out to be good.

Does anyone know how the Japanese responded to Phase 1? We know that r07 likes to read online discussions, and that he even reacted to criticisms by making changes throughout Umineko. R07 said he had all of Ciconia planned out this time, so I wonder if he can hold himself back from making changes in response. Or maybe that's why Phase 2 is taking so long, since everything was planned out it's taking him longer to alter the story.
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>>25150810
can you upload Ano Hi e and Shirogane no Empireo?
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>>25156041
It's actually incredible how Ciconia embodies everything I despise

>straight up meme fujo bait relationship between the male MC and his best friend
>I already hate the idea of an international cast of characters but do their designs have to be that terrible?
>Completely unrelatable plot based on politics and world-wide conflicts and the poor innocent children stuck in the terrible world boomers have created, plus it jumps all over the place in the very first ep
>Hamfisted dissociative disorders because we have to put those in every WTC story right??
>Terrible music, not even one memorable track
>Tons of references to Umi/Higu to remind me that some of my favourite vns are a part of this shit
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>>25156292
See, for me, none of those are things I particularly hate or even dislike.

>fujo bait
I never saw it like that, but I can understand how one can.
>international characters and designs
I only dislike the international cast for the fact that it requires you to jump around. Character design was fine for me, campy and fun.
>dissociative disorders
Now this is tiring. It's getting really old and prevents me from getting invested in characters because I just know the shit that r07 will pull with any one of them.
>terrible music
Overall mediocre, but it served it its purpose. Honestly, as much as I get erect from the Umineko soundtrack, they were sometimes "too good" and became a distraction while reading. The music and the text were fighting to be at the forefront. Music that serves it's purpose is good enough for me.
>tons of references
I see this as just a natural progression of WTC. Higurashi obviously had none as it was the start, then Umineko brought in some, and now Ciconia has even more. I don't know if it will lead to a culmination though, or if it's just a meta nod to readers. I think people dissociated Bern, Lambda, and Featherine from Higurashi too much. Though I can see hating it if you hate Ciconia with a passion, having all the titles coupled together, tarnishing their name.

My main issues can be isolated to prose and story. Was a slog to read through and made me feel nothing but annoyance except during sporadic moments.
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To think all of my life's problems would disappear the moment I have sex with Satoko.
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>>25156743

>My main issues can be isolated to prose and story. Was a slog to read through and made me feel nothing but annoyance except during sporadic moments.

I forgot to talk about this even tho it should be the main point. There's something very wrong with a piece of media when you just start begging for it to be over already.
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>>25156749
You would realize she's a stupid country bumpkin preteen with an awkward half-grown body and lose all respect for her once you see her pathetic bald pussy and sweaty butt crack.

Satoko is a humiliatee. Deep down you only find her attractive because she tempts you with her smugness and you want to expose her shameful real self.
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>>25156972
>her pathetic bald pussy and sweaty butt crack.
Please stop, I just masturbated.
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>>25153489
Thanks, definitely missed this.

>>25156245
>Ano Hi e
https://mega.nz/folder/MEl1DBDZ#Fm6WpvLD0rJLODoD-4kT_g

>Shirogane no Empireo
drive.google.com/uc?id=1ycWO6rmef6vFDD8yUWQwDfZfuwEuNCzo&export=download
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>>25143506
Lolis are beautiful because they almost reach perfection while still being human. If they were 100% perfect assless beings, they wouldn't be so impressive.
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>>25157109
Anon, you've always just masturbated.
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>>25151102
looks like Last Period artstyle to me.
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Stop degenerate talking about lolis pedos and talk about there is nothing in the closet
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>>25157219
cheers
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>>25157489
Thanks.
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>>25157534
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>>25157724
tits too big
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>>25153489
>.wma
>128kb/s
This hurts.
At least the filenames are easily fixable.
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>>25156972
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God I hope they announce the date for Phase 2 this month
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I just watched the first chapter of the Umineko anime adaption and like it, it's better than DEEN's Onikakushi.
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>>25157888
Sorry, that's the only one I found. :(
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>>25158372
It's trash, dude. Battler looks like a fucking moron with those giant pupils. He doesn't feel like Battler at all.
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>>25150810
Just to make sure, did you obtain any of those downloading them from Youtube? Just saying, that's a terrible way to preserve anything. Youtube always fucks up the audio a bit.
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>>25156749
It would mean getting stun gun’d in the dick by her Nee Nee though.
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>>25158417
All the others are flac. The Last Omerta is the only one with terrible quality, so if anything was grabbed from youtube it would just be that album.
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>>25156292
I didn't play Ciconia since the game was released in english day one. Also the understatement of "This is just my suggestion but this game might be a bit hard for you."
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>>25158459
What does any of that have to do with why you chose not to read it?
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>>25158398
Your opinion is trash, dude.
By that logic the higu adaption, no, any VN adaption really would be trash.
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>>25158419
Worth it.
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>>25158534
Not the anon, but the chara-design is really ugly and doesn't fit the atmosphere of the story tbqh.
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>>25157932
GODDAMMIT
that's a big kek
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>>25158698
appreciate it
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>>25158417
I never download music from youtube.
It's all from cd rips. Not my of course. Only hi-quality flac and some mp3.

>>25158452
About new Akoustikas...
Where those from? Is there's somebody who buying them?
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>They're calling me a girl again, aren't they?
>Um, Kanon-kun... maybe you should work out or something, you'll look more masculine...
>Fuck you too, nee-san. And fuck Natsuhi for making me wear these gay-ass socks.
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>>25159169
Kanon-kun stop beliving in tumbrl propaganda
small tits are better than big tits shit
you dont need to be a man because you are the most beautiful girl
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>>25158976
I'm this anon >>25153489
I got them from someone on Soulseek. They do buy them, but only the first three albums. There is also a 07th Expansion collector that had all of the Akoustika, but are scared to upload them for piracy.
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>>25159390
Nevermind, just found them. Akoustika 1 to 10
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z6d8e0urpz0q5/Akoustika
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why is tranny twitter so obsessed with umineko and yasu? I thought they hated representation of trannies as mentally ill, depressed and autistic.
Once you really think about it Umineko is the epitome of unwoke:
being unsure of your identity and gender leads you to become depressed, dellusional and wanting to kill your family and friends + yourself
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>>25159557
Yasu is an eunuch mentally fucked up by "her" upbringing, not a tranny. Trannies willingly mutilate themselves and obsess over gender until they drive themselves insane.
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>>25159648
Yasu is a girl because Kinzo have fear to commit the same sin again so yasu must be female since man cant get pregnant
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>>25159556
Yeah! Thanks for sharing.
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RGD is Ryukishi's magnum opus and you're not a true R07 fan until you read it. This is the undeniable truth.
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>>25160022
This

Also Ciconia is basically the sequel so you should definitely check it out if you care
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>>25159557
Anon, half the cast of Umineko is depressed, insane, does crazy shit at some point, etc.
Yasu had a lot of roads to happiness and in many ways she finds it. To say she just gets 'depressed' and 'kills everyone' is reductive of the existential themes of the story.
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>>25160511
not really? Most of the things you are talking about were the delusions of the depressed lunatic writing it with the help of a 9 year old autistic child, did you even read the vn?
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>>25156292
>>Completely unrelatable plot based on politics and world-wide conflicts and the poor innocent children stuck in the terrible world boomers have created
If anything this has only gotten more relatable than ever in 2020.
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If Satoko is so badass, how come her pussy is still completely bald? Kinda pathetic.
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>>25161044
>9 year old autistic child

younger than that at the time actually
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>>25161072
maybe if you're american and therefore clinically retarded
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>>25156743
I really hope all the references will have some purpose and we'll get some sort of meta storyline that'll link all WTC games together but I doubt it. Higanbana and RGD also had a lot of references to WTC and it didn't go anywhere, I think R07 just like to self reference his other works in a ham-fisted way.
Also I don't think I would have liked Umineko and even Higurashi as much as I do without their soundtracks, they really enhanced the experience and kinda complement the overall mediocre writing, I don't see how they could detract you from the vn.
Also Ciconia's ost being mostly made of free to use tracks while is bullshit. and the original tracks are not really better, even higurashi's question arc had a more memorable soundtrack.
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>>25158500
Seemed like bait.
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What's the best way to go through Umineko these days? I followed the translations to the end ages ago but I want to reread before the new scenario and I'd like to spend money this time if my options aren't fucking stupid to show support.
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So who's the traitor in AOU ?
Gunhild, Meow, Chloe or Jayden ?
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>>25161625
I wish i cared
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>>25161625
My wife
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WW3 is bullshit. It never actually happened.
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>>25161625
Meow. She proposed the Christmas party and told Jayden to pretend it was his idea, for some flimsy reason. She also gave Tomitake the password to her gauntlet.
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is there any point in reading the ciconia tips if you hated the main story and are considering dropping it?
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>>25161740
Also, she apparently goes to weird places at night while Miyao is out, using the anti-sleeping drug. Obviously she's meeting with dad for their evil plan. This is why Toujirou doesn't even ask about her when he meets Miyao and pretends he doesn't even know her.
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>>25161760
The tips are a lot of fun actually. Try them out.
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Stop acting like Ciconia is objectively bad just because you didn't like it. I liked it a lot.
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>>25161740
>She also gave Tomitake the password to her gauntlet.
I'm currently rereading Ciconia hence why I included Meow among the potential traitors in my post. Because at one point Miyao sort of blanked out when talking to Tomitake in the restaurant, and just after that he quickly tried to end the meeting/conversation. This made me think Meow talked with him about something trivial since she's his daughter too but it was way too suspicious
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>>25161802
This too. The narration makes it obvious that Miyao zoned out and someone else took over without him realizing it. He didn't even finish ordering the food and Toujirou was already talking about leaving the place.
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>>25161790
no one said it was objectively bad, they did say they disliked it and gave reasons why, more than what you did with your post
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God the inevitable Tower of Babel scene is going to be fucking amazing. I can feel it.
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>>25161887
PROOOOOOOH
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>>25161887
It's pretty amazing how Kizuna can translate Rethabile's chimp sounds.
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>>25161887
Can the masterminds accurately shut down all the selcoms without fucking up half the 8MS in the world?
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Maria's あ$$! It is! It is!
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>>25161844
I wish you guys were smarter. Tacking on dogshit to your opinion doesn't make it any less subjective. None of the "reasons" in this thread would convince anybody of anything since there's 0 actual reasoning or analysis involved. It's just "I don't like it because I don't like it". Nobody here has any education or talent so it makes sense that you can't e.g. describe using music theory WHY a particular track is trite or mediocre - you just say it's mediocre and hope that everyone is a fucking retard who'll just passively accept your meaningless opinion.
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>>25162128
this has to be one of the funniest things I've ever read
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I liked Ciconia's music
Ominous 3, Apocalypsis Ciconias, Beach, Warudakumi and Chat were good
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>>25161619
Steam, use 07th mod for voice patch.
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>>25161619
>if my options aren't fucking stupid to show support
They're all fucking stupid, one way or another. Stop bothering about that.
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Now that I'm at the part where Rethabile Eenentwintig Africacommonwealthrealm of the ACR says she won't leave things up to God to fully take responsibility for her actions, I can't really think she's the one who ratted out her brother to be killed even if Ryukishi's writing style is heavily pushing us towards this conclusion. Unless another personality did the deed but it would be a cheap way. Fuck this CPP thing really, it makes everything a blurred out area where you can't even be sure if someone laughing with the Gauntlets Knights now isn't flirting with Jestress in the background
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Do the Ciconia tips/fragments need to be read? Finally got to the end of phase 1 but if all the tips are gonna be like that first one i’ll go use my time elsewhere. It wasn’t bad but i don’t give enough of a fuck to read another 15 of these.
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>>25163528
I really liked the one with the snack bar because I found it fun. I forgot the rest
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>>25163528
I remember that a few were important and a couple were actually good, the rest are the same who gives a fuck "I wanted to squeeze this into the main story but I couldn't find an appropriate spot so I'll dump them in the fragments."
To think I'll have to reread them when Phase 2 comes out....
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>>25159675
Italianon, I get you feel like you need to spam your theory every second you can, but you DO realize your insistence in this point is plain dumb and only makes your theory feel like a half assed attempt to not feel gay for liking Kanon, right? The fact that the possibility of Kinzo's commiting the sin again is only ever brought up AFTER the fall makes it obvious that Yasu wasn't a girl before, if anything. Genji only feels like hidding Yasu's existence is worth it AFTER the fall, not before.
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>gayden
How could I have forgotten this kek
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>>25164938
>>25164961

please, more
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>>25153277
I love this
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>>25163528
Don't know why they didn't unlock the tips as the story progressed like with higurashi, would have been way better
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>>25165581
a lot of them feel more like deleted scene than tips
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>>25165124
I saw this before reading umineko and thought it was a real spoiler until episode 3 or 4
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I got a friend of mine to read higurashi since she said she was interested in Umineko and she "took a break" from reading after ep3 months ago and hasn't continued. She also spoiled herself on the villain by looking for art to retweet on twitter like a retard.
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do you think phase 2 is getting delayed again?
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>>25163648
reread chapter 7 he give yasu to natsuhi because he is afraid of commit the same sin again
make yasu raise as a man distance from him maybe could stop him
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>>25163648
then not only for Kanon Gay
(yes is a big motivation)
but the principal motive is the first time i see kanon i thougth he was a girl and when i discover he is a male i was confuse then i make a theory
>Kanon is faking to be male because he is Beatrice
in many mistery there is the tomboyish girl who fake to be male

so my theory true mean I SOLVE UMINEKO IN THE FIRST GAME AT THE FIRST TRY

I AM THE BEST
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>>25163495
This is supposed to be an Evangelion style mindfuck, not a classic mystery where everything is fair. I have no problem with characters being able to speak to anyone in the world at any time without anybody noticing. Higurashi was the tinfoil hat type of mystery. Why do people think everything has to be like Umineko? That was a one time thing, not the basis for the series.
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>>25165581
Because they are called data fragments for a reason. It wouldn't make sense to unlock them throughout the story, implying they are actually happening, if they are supposed to be lost memories from the previous loop that got deleted to make room for new ones.

Remember Miyao talking about how you'd need to wipe part of your memories to live forever without going insane? All those slice of life scenes were worth deleting to save space in the matrix.
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>>25167945
>Ange immortalizes Maria with her Sakutaro books, achieving what Takano failed to do
>Ciconia deals with immortality inside a matrix, with a clever memory wiping system that prevents them from going fucking insane like the witches in Umineko did
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>>25161044
>Ignoring 99% of the text in favor of Rokkenjima Prime
Anon, did YOU read the vn?
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>>25168266
Speedreaders always pretend they've actually read shit.
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>>25167945
If they were supposed to be lost memories from previous loops, there should be a little more significance to them. What is it about the data fragments that gives you information like that?>>25167864
I didn't see anything close to a mindfuck since there wasn't even an actual ending.
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Maria obscena a los ojos
Jorge caballero supremo (poder máximo de verginidad)
Batallador incompetente
Italianon maricón
Jessica concha peluda
Rosa bienes usados
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>>25168657
posto epico, mio friendo
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Hi, is there any sort of official flag for the Onigafuchi Guardians or Onigafuchi in general? It's referenced a few times but I don't think I've ever seen it.
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Absolute retard here. Is comrade Mario the spy sent by the 3 kings we first saw entering the Holy ark near the beginning of the story? Since he took care to clean after himself and was preoccupied by earth' status. Since he came there not too long ago, he didn't sacrifice everything tying him down to the earth like the others.

But who helped him? I'm about to continue my reread but I've forgotten a lot of stuff. We'll see
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>>25168657
Don't forget
Beatriz Trolaso
Erica banador obsceno
Eva Menopausia
Tres y Cuatro
Chef de magia Gohda
Quinzo OH DESEO!
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>Toujirou knew in advance to put short orders on environmental 8MS related stock companies
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>>25161770
>Also, she apparently goes to weird places at night while Miyao is out, using the anti-sleeping drug. Obviously she's meeting with dad for their evil plan.
I don't think that's what she does at night.
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what is it with umineko and attracting autists into producing huge manifestos on their hot take on the story, confidently declaring all other opinions as incorrect?

how can I get on this wild ride again? is there any other fanbase capable of producing this much autism?
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>>25173577
the bible
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>>25173577
i blame the umineko autism on ESLs
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>>25173577
Read it umineko is something of unique
free your mind
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>>25175286
I'm sorry anon, I respect your passion and wish I could indulge in your ego, but I don't have the patience, don't remember the story well enough, and, being ESL myself, reading ESL writing hurts my brain.
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>>25167554
How can you still only write extremely broken english ? It's been so long even just by reading nothing but these threads you should have improved beyond this level.
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>>25175507
how can english language be so bad after 1500 years?
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>>25155434
Not really. Maybe at the halfway point I thought about that a little, and it's definitely got a weak start by his standards, but it raises enough interesting questions on its own that I would certainly read part 2 on release.

Not everything in life has to be a perfect 10/10. There is much you can still get from an 8/10 work, which is what Ciconia is right now.
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>>25175992
And to be fair, Umineko didn't have a great start either. Chapter one was a slog to read through at times and chapter two's love drama at the beginning was outright hurtful. It wasn't until ~30-40 hours in when the witch battles started that it became great.
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>>25176628
I personally found it plenty good, but I can easily see why others didn't. All the more reason to wait and see how Ciconia will pan out.
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>>25176628
Actual shit taste, once you get past the inheritance discussion scene (which while a bit tedious still had some good moments) ep1 just grabs you and doesn't let go.
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>>25175992
I find this interesting because the first third of Ciconia is what was actually enjoyable to read for me. The rest is what felt weak as shit. I don't expect a 10/10, I'd honestly love Ciconia to be an 8, because it's sitting at a 6 for me.

>>25176628
How embarrassing. Do you get off on saying something so humiliating?
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I like Ciconia because it's comfy to read. It's a lot of fun to just open and theorize.
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>>25176707
>>25176805
In that case I can recommend Downton Abbey to you if you like tedious melodrama and discussions about family politics.
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>>25162128
Why are Ciconia fans so autistic?
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>>25173577
>vn about making and sharing theories
>hmm why do people make and share their own theories
retard, I'm sure you looked up Bern's game answer
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The pure soul of a little girl.
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>>25176805
>How embarrassing. Do you get off on saying something so humiliating?
I bet that anon thinks Umineko is slow because he's actually a stupid loli with a literal ass.
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>>25178040
> he's actually a stupid loli with a literal ass.

god i wish that were me
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>>25178040
Pathetic! Lewd! Humiliating!
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>>25178040
Little girls are huge normies. It's impossible for them to have read Umineko.

Except for that super cute slav loli who cosplayed Maria. Some anon posted her a while back and she was hecka cute.
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>>25178337
do you mean her?
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bruh that's a literal child
wtf
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>>25178347
No, that's not cute. I mean that anon who posted about his slav cousin cosplaying Maria and showed us her picture. I could look it up on warosu in 30 seconds, but I can't open a new tab right now.
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>>25178374
WOW IT'S A CHILD I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE OF THOSE
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>>25178381
>look it up
>she's so cute
>look at the thousand replies
>human condition anon humiliating her for being human
Kek, I didn't expect to find him in such an old thread.
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>>25178472
can I get a link?
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>>25178489
Just search for maria slav cousin on warosu.
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>>25178574
the one posted here seems more autistic and therefore more like Maria anyway
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>>25176902
theories don't really seem to go anywhere though.
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>>25178337
Satoko is the only good loli in Higurashi. Oppai preteen loli is rare. Rika is fucked in the head and Hanyuu is neither a child nor a pathetic human.

Maria is cute and I wouldn't mind licking her butt, but she's not exactly hot. She's kinda autistic, so I'd rather just play with her. Loli Ange is humiliatable but she's too young and teen Ange is far superior.

Higanbana lolis are generally good. Yoko, Midori, Aya and Yukari are top tier. Every single one of those four is better than Satoko, which is saying a lot because Satoko is pretty good.

RGD has a pretty good athletic loli, but she's a coronavirus bat-eating commie chink with fucked up vocal cords. Would be fun to rape as she screams at the top of her lungs barely making any sound.

Ciconia has Naima and Gannet. Middle eastern WHITE lolis from Syria and Iraq are top tier IRL, and Naima certaintly doesn't disappoint. The hijab is cute as fuck. Gannet is a nig, but she's cute and probably has a 13 year old hairy pussy. I hope we get to see more of her in Phase 2.

The sexiest would be Satoko. The most waifu-able would be Yoko. And the most humiliatable would be Naima.

As you can see, Maria is nowhere near the top 3.
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>>25178686
They all have arses, I've got no respect for any of them. Only pre-degeneracy Hanyuu has any dignity, but she decided to throw it all away and gain an ass like the little mermaid did. Why do the best girls always turn out to be degenerates who long for a human body?
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>>25178686
07thExpansion always delivers on the little girls, but the teenage characters are always vastly superior. It's quite the achievement.
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>>25178620
Yeah that's why I'm excited for Phase 2. Hopefully it will make the thinking route more clear.
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The blue girls are the freakiest part of Ciconia. Did they turn Koshka into one of those?
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>>25178686
Rika is hella cute you heretic.
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I know very little about this series but I want to download every single fucking track in the series that has edm bullshit.
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>>25180753
That'd be cruel as fuck as I'm sure Koshka was about to blow her brains out.
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is phase 2 or a real translation of saku out yet
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Anyone have more of these crops?
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>>25182290
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>>25182290
Only because I love Ange
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>>25182344
You only love her arse.
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>>25182424
Hell FUCKING yeah I do
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>>25182434
That's such an unfortunate cover. It belongs in a hentai doujin. I can't take Ange seriously in the story if I keep thinking about how I saw her naked ass on the cover.

Maybe humiliation was an actual theme of Umineggo after all. Ange's human misery is too real.
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>>25182509
I'm perfectly fine with Ange fanservice
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>>25182509
Ange is pitiable because she's a humiliatee. That's the point. Satoko wouldn't be so endearing and worth protecting if we didn't see her usually smug self completely terrified and out of her mind in EP3, butt-naked in broad daylight, reduced to the level of an animal.
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>>25182547
>shaved pussy
Thats more like fan disservice. Thankfully that image isn't quite canon.
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>>25182547
what was she doing with that stake in front of her?
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>>25182584
Just for you
https://files.catbox.moe/4i77dh.jpg
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Imagine being such a lame fucking character that nobody cares about that artists have to resort to showing off your ass to get yhe audience to even look your way.
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>>25182584
>>25182644
Actually let me add to this
https://files.catbox.moe/njwjn3.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/xwas6v.jpg
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>>25182665
i just wanted cute crops
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>>25182741
Ange haters are subhuman
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>>25182665
It's the opposite. She is so cool and has so much personality and presence, it's almost hard to believe she's got an ass. That's why the sight of her objectively disgusting shitter is actually lewd and attracts people's gazes. It proves that she's still human despite her badassery and humiliates her by destroying the cool image that she tries to present to the world. And this lewd physical, psychological and spiritual humiliation negates any sense of disgust, replacing it with attraction.

Ange is so great that even her ass is pleasing to look at, even if it's at the expense of her dignity. People only want to see it because it humanizes and degrades a seemingly perfect girl who is not only pretty but also cool. The ass destroys both of those qualities in an instant. That's why she's got two cheeks. It's the same reason we enjoy watching explosions.
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>>25182718
Btw, my koikatsu Ange is turning out great.
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>>25182897
Post it
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>>25182911
Not yet, I still need to un-fuck her neck.
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Even if Ange kills herself, she'll never be able to erase the fact that she existed and had a humiliating human body.
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Imagine being Ange's boyfriend

Just imagine for a second
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>>25183136
i'd much rather be erika's bf and watch her pained crying expression as I cuck her with a cuter girl
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>>25177783
I remember solving it on paper since I couldn't keep it in my head. I think you also misrepresented my question. There's a difference between making and sharing theories and making 10 hour videos and condescending to any alternate viewpoint.

Is this how you argue in real life too? Just egregiously misrepresenting someone else's position, vomiting a random conjecture about their intellect, and then nodding assuredly to yourself? It's no wonder you're a goat lmao. I guess without love it can't be seen after all.
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>>25183358
a cuter girl like ange
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>>25183367
He already revealed he's a brainwashed puritan SJW a couple threads back. I hope he fucking dies.
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>>25183484
"He" is also a tranny as well
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>>25150148
Another translated doujin.
https://exhentai.org/g/1699088/a4089095c2/
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>>25183367
Anon what is better
make a theory who respect what umineko said or belive in a manga where half of the story is different from a VN just because Battler is gay?
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>>25183484
fuck off
just hate pedos
SWJ defend pedos so fuck off
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>>25173577
katawa shoujo general is pretty autistic
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Why Sonozakike so engry that nekos come into saidouden?
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Why does the 07th general attract so many ESL retards
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>>25187789
better ESL retards than.. Americans *shudder*
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>>25163528
I finished reading all the fragments and the title screen is now ominous as fuck. Kinda excited for phase 2 now.
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>>25187268
>hating pedos for no reason
>claiming that SJWs of all people defend them
>implying there is even anything to defend anyway
You are insane, kill yourself.
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>>25188709
Don't feed him. It's useless to argue about this shit with the average person, let alone a genuinely mentally ill sjw who spends all his waking hours trolling a 4chan thread. Just ignore him and hope he burns alive one of these days.
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>>25188709
>hating pedos for no reason
LMAO ARE YOU FUCKING IDIOT?
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>>25188709
>hating pedos for no reason
now see, if you said "conflating 2D loli with pedophilia" then I'd be behind you
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>>25188709
>>hating pedos for no reason
wow
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>>25189142
>>25189224
>>25189390
You can't even samefag, retard. Is your caps lock broken?
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>>25187989
I forgot what it looked like. The previous title screen I mean. Do you happen to have a screenshot
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>>25154462
Cute!

Like Erika said. Beato has the best bitch face.
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>>25189633
yeap anon
Like Kanon said. Beato has the best bitch face.
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Battler Blanco

George Gordo

Beatriz Dorada

El hecho de que Angelica tiene un culo es simplemente increible! Ella es tan hermosa y ruda! Sin embargo! A pesar de ello! Ella tiene un culo! Patetico! Humillante! Perverso! La condicion humana de Angelica Ushiromiya!

Satoko Puberta

Hanyuu Fantasma

Leonardo Mamadisimo

Ricardo Punido

Bernarda Modo Gato
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>>25190970
Kanon Tomboyo
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Currently reading Umineko on the part that Ange gets beaten up, why did they make this scene so long?
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>>25192366
Ange suffering hasn't even begun lol
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Shkanontrice fags think that this image is gay
How can you be so brainwashed?
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>>25193689
This is a parody of the cover of a BL visual novel. It doesn't get gayer than that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBrPllRrw6c

kino
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>>25193789
if i hire a gay actor for a heterosexual role the fictional character become gay?
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>>25197742
Why are you gay?
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>>25193839
why are all Ciconia songs full of this terrible Eunuch chorus?
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>>25198102
Sayo had to fill her time with something after Umineko ended.
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>>25197970
no u
read my manifesto
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>>25198203
lol'd
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>>25198102
fuck off miyao is a CUTE tomboy and Jayden love her
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the fact that satoko has..........
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>>25198973
It's mindblowing!
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>>25198993
simply by existence of satoko's.....
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>>25197970
Gay, or European?
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Do you guys have more of these Higurashi french memes?
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Visitor from /aidg/ here. Found this. The poster used premium generation by the AI and blue is his inputs.
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>>25199542
Oh, and I guess her first name "Vier" which is 4 = Delta. So her name is Delta Lambda.
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>>25199680
Ah crap, this is even on the wiki I'm retarded. I was also going to post about how the wisdoms are specific dates, but that has been discussed on random forums already too.
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>>25199462
OH NO BAD END NOOO! IT WAS GOING SO GOOD TOO!
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>>25199462
Rena absolutely DESTROYED by K1-type as-blunt-as-it-gets honesty
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>>25168266
>>25168446
his assumptions makes it seem like he didn't read ep8 or the manga. I envy him.
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>>25190970
>Leonardo Mamadisimo
Lmao
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>>25178686
Maria is smarter than any of those normie brats.
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>>25199922
What's happening to Miyao?
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>>25200502
Meow switched places at the wrong moment.
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>>25199922
>>25200042
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>>25200552
That's hot but it would be very inconvenient. Imagine the cockblocking.
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>>25200606
>She seems to be holding lunch boxes. Plural.
lmao, AI is a better writer than me.
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>>25200606
>her fingers reached for the chain
Rena's fingers can't even fit through the crack on the door.
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>>25200950
I wonder what else she does with those sausage fingers....
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If tin foil hat Rena hated Mion so much for hiding the aliens, why didn't she force her to dance naked in front of all her younger classmates and order them to hurl mockery and insults at her?

That would be less inhumane than hitting her with the axe but also more punishing and damaging long-term, since she wouldn't recover from that humiliation ever again and would leave the village forever.
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>>25201006
>Rena will never be able to finger Satoko's butt without destroying it because her fingers are thicker than a negro's cock
Why live?
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>>25200606
>>25200933
>>25200950
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>>25201404
Are there any more of these
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>>25201545
quite a few my friend
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>>25201513
>not prompting the AI to go off-script
waste of opportunity desu
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>>25201545
Mion's cul! It is beau! And petit!
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>>25201404
>>25201545
>>25201618
These ones are pretty good, let me post the one I have.
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>>25201545
All of these edits were made by some people on group chat on Skype.
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>>25202447
What's the story behind that
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>>25202512
Nothing as simple wanting reaction pics from Higurashi for Twitter.
Around 2014-2015, Higurashi (and Ryukishi's works, by extension) was really popular in the french weeb community on Twitter for some reason. That was also a period where reaction pic with the character's face and a screenshot of a quote from their source was quite popular. So, they wanted to do the same with Higurashi's charcters.
That's it.
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I've been speculating about the wisdoms.

19080630
18721205
19940305

Clearly they're dates. Nothing seems to be notable on March 3rd 1994. June 30th 1908 was the Tunguska event, which most think was a meteorite impact though there are alternate theories about it which I want to read up on. The one I'm focusing on for now is June 30th 1872 when the ghost ship Mary Celeste was found adrift in the Atlantic. It's a mystery as to what became of the crew.

Upon reading the entire Wikipedia article on the Mary Celeste for anything that sticks out, I found this tidbit:

>Other explanations have suggested paranormal intervention; an undated edition of the British Journal of Astrology describes the Mary Celeste story as "a mystical experience", connecting it "with the Great Pyramid of Gizeh, the lost continent of Atlantis, and the British Israel Movement".

>Similar fantasies have considered theories of abduction by aliens in flying saucers.

Both of these reference the book "Mary Celeste" by Macdonald Hastings (1972). I've been unable to find a digital version of this book however, but I would really like to read these fantasy theories and see if any of them match up with any Tunguska event theories.
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>>25202733
The only link I've found between the Tunguska Event and the Mary Celeste are alien theories it seems. Can anyone find an alien event linked to March 5th 1994?

Another tidbit I found that is likely not relevant but whatever: The book "The Tungska Mystery" reports the finding of a small pyramid shaped object at the location.
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>>25203225
IIRC nobody managed to find out about the 1994 event so far. Atleast not in the /jp/ threads.
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>>25203302
>1994
Isn't that when 14 year old Ange got surrounded by bullies in the locker room and forced outside completely naked for everyone to see?
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>>25203429
Holy shit that's hot
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>>25155434
No fucking way, you're just a brainlet that can't see it the accumulation of all the themes presented in Higurashi and Umineko.
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>>25158372
What the fuck are you smoking? It completely removes all tension, all emotion, all hype. I had the misfortune of watching the DEEN adaption for my first experience of Umineko and when I read the VN I had chills basically through the entire second half. I may as well have not even watched the DEEN adaption that's how shit and forgettable it was.
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>>25203302
Maybe the context in which the wisdom is presented has some sort of clue? There's no way the number is made up

Or maybe the fact that the third one has no corresponding event is to show that the approach of them being dates is incorrect
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>>25161887
This better fucking happen, that would be so sick. Seems like something that would happen in the third arc.
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>>25204200
It's funny how the anime is so forgettable and seemingly nonsensical that even those who watched it first can read the VN and be surprised by the EP3 Beatroll or Kinzo's death twists. The anime is such a clusterfuck of random shit that even the major plot twists mean nothing to the viewer, so they are immediately dismissed as more nonsense and completely forgotten.
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Rosa,Rosa.
Why are you such an idiot?
https://youtu.be/XxEZna3ROgQ
I recently re-read that part and my god it made me get the feels, weird because it didn't happen the first time.
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>>25167864
Its just people who only read Umineko/read Umineko first being retarded.
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>>25204317
Seriously, I was so fucking hyped at the end of Episode 1's tea party in the VN that even though it was like 3am I immediately started episode 2.
Meanwhile the anime basically evoked no emotion in me. HIgurashi's anime adaption cuts out a lot of stuff, but it at the very least is still good on its own.
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Are we really sure A3W means After 3rd War? I have this strong feeling it'll end up being other shit
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>>25204212
About Wisdom 19940305:
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Imagine a Higurashi adaption in Ryukishi's artstyle. Or Umineko. (I think it would actually fit really well for Higanbana)
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Apart from the huge shoujo eyes on some characters I actually like the Umineko anime look..
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Weirds me out every single time it happens. It also helps the matter that i still don't have any idea about reasons behind these hazy eyes. Is there something wrong mixed with water?
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Delusional psycho sister is cute, but Rena's chapter is what i am most excited to read about
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>>25204854
Well, what else do you think it could mean?
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>>25205971
These threads are full of spoilers, get out.
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>>25150148
did kumasawa look like virgilia when she was young?
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yasu writing mom murder fanfiction with an autistic 8 year old in a closet
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>>25207761
she just created an eccentric version of herself as a detective
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>>25205971
might not wanna be here since these threads are spoiler filled but that is my favorite chapter out of all the vns
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Sayo! Yasuda! Huh!
Sayo! Yasuda is here!
He has no nuts
He has no cock
This heir has a fucked up crotch!
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Healthy military balance is a good thing. But an Healthy calory intake should be taken into account as well
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>>25210799
these are the face of people who hate Erikantrice
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The hecka cute arse of a preteen rori! Degrading! Pathetic!
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>>25211019
I don't hate Erikantrice but I don't like it either. And I'm sure I don't look like that
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>>25210799
I like that the tranner is the best looking one of all of them.
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>>25211051
Which do you think is the tranner? Koshka?
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about Beatrice-sama, you little furniture? I’ll have you know she graduated top of her class as Virgilia's apprentice, and she's been involved in numerous secret raids on Kinzo's study, and she has opened over 300 confirmed windows.

Beatrice-sama is trained in Endless Magic and is the top alchemist on Rokkenjima. You are nothing to her but just another piece. She will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words.

You think you can get away with saying Beatrice-sama doesn't exist? Think again, fucker. As we speak she is contacting her secret network of furniture across the USA and your closed room is being traced right now so you better prepare for the twilight, maggot. The twilight that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. She can be anywhere, anytime, and can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just by following the epitaph.

Not only is Beatrice-sama extensively trained in unarmed combat, but she has access to the entire arsenal of the Chiester Sisters Imperial Guard Corps and will use it to its full extent to wipe half of your miserable face off the face of the island, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue.

But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. Beatrice-sama will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it.

Beatrice-sama exists, kiddo.
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I wish a Tojirou would exist IRL to have warned me about the Corona dump in march. I would have made a killing...
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>>25199240
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Is it interesting to read Umineko when already known the second part Higurashi?
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thanks doc
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>>25212288
this is great, man I wonder how many of these are.
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>>25201545
All I have was already posted. I don't speak French but I feel like even those short quotes express their character better than the English translation does.
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>>25214259
Those sleeves...
Leo...
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>>25214259
Isn't this the trap card thing he made. More?
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>>25214259
I like how Leo appears in a bunch of these perving on the girls.
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>>25215031
HowcanSatokolivewithherselfshe'socuteandyetandyetdespitethatdespitethat.jpg
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What do you think about an Umineko cartoon/comic?
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>>25218999
Why are most western cartoons so hyper focused on comedy to the point it even affects the character designs? Even the ones supposedly made for adults are either pure comedy or a constant barrage of distasteful gross-out "jokes".

It's like they don't respect the medium of animation or children's intelligence in the slightest.
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>>25218999
if you Put erikantrice is a masterpiece
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>>25215389
I think the french translation of Higurashi is one of the best translation of japanese media there is.
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>>25219030
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I am utterly overwhelmed by the scope of what there is to theorize about in Ciconia. I realize that Umineko and even Higurashi were somewhat easier because they were less spread out, if that makes sense. I know this is only Phase 1, but the only thing I'm convinced of is that Miyao is either the devil or the anti christ since he was standing at the top of a 666 meter tower at the beginning, and that he's programmed to end the world. This isn't much. I thought I was ahead of the curve for being able to more or less solve Umineko by the end of EP3 but it turns out that I'm lacking in general culture and biblical references.


I tried looking at documentaries about Storks yesterday, and one funny thing I noticed is that their cries is kinda similar to gunfire. I suppose this was intentional on Ryukishi's part, and I genuinely love the idea
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>>25221450
Here is a doc that compare Phase 1 to the Revelation of Saint Ioánnis : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fhkemTTPRF1LW1ONZB-CNZyX97hrh_6nSzF4JMnbv34/edit
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>>25214259
Is Irie Ryukishi's true Higurashi insert?
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>>25221450
I think you would get a lot out of reading some sci-fi while in that state of mind. It's clear that Ryuks is drawing inspiration for the way futuristic technology transforms individual self-perception and social structure from Dick and Lem. Lems work especially is just ridiculously fun to read - the short story collections are quite comfy, and they cover a broad range both tonally and in terms of subject matter, from light-hearted, whacky experiments in pure imagination to more serious sci-philosophy.
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>>25221450
I pointed that out the stork cry a long time ago and nobody cared...
https://youtu.be/wMHDD4xgmko

This is obviously the intention on r07's part, especially when you stack on the feathers you see falling when the gauntlet user's shields are hit. Also, in Egyptian mythology, the heron (similar to the stork) god was involved in the creation of the world and is associated with rebirth. Possible Seshat connection.

Some random facts with potential relevenace:
The Oriental stork (Ciconia boyciana) is a solitary bird except during the breeding season.
It is now extinct in Japan and the Korean peninsula. However, in May 2007 a hatchling was reported in Japan for the first time in 40 years in the wild.
Because of their migratory nature of flying south in the fall and returning nine months later, they're associated with birth all over the world (even in south america before they had contact with the west).
Storks prey on snakes. In greek mythology, Hera turned Antigone's hair into stakes, but another god felt bad for her and turned her into a stork. You also have a Christian theme of the stork attacking the devil (as a snake).
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>>25221450
The funny thing is that Miyao is actually both Christ and anti-Christ. Specifically, Meow is Christ, the daughter of the Holy Mother, or the Mother of the Lamb (Takano). Meanwhile, KillerProgram!Miyao is the anti-Christ, the son of the Mother of Monsters and Harlots (Seshat).

The rabbit hole goes way deeper than this, of course.
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I thought it was a minor clue that one of the kings mentions he had biological children.
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>>25213911
Umineko sucks for the most part.
Episode 1-3 are kinda good, then it sucks again until episode 7. Episode 8 also sucks but I guess you're used to that from playing Higurashi.
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>>25222573
fuck off magic-cuck episode 5 and 6 are the best
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The main problems in R07 VNs are over bloatedness and tangential writing. If he had a good editor who wasnt afraid to cut some of his shit out his works would be objectively better.
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>>25222636
Episode 5 is great but tho ep6 has some of the greatest scenes in all of Umineko it feels really disjointed and a pain to read through at times? I felt that when i first read it but I would have to re-read it to better explain why it's flawed.
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>>25222697
>Umineko it feels really disjointed and a pain to read through at times
Erika=Kanon and understand all the scene
>muh my boyfriend betraly me
>muh i am the witch who can endure even the most painfull truth
>muh finnally i can accept the real truth about myself
>>25222653
fuck off faggot
R07 is a perfect author editor just change KINO into commercial shit
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>>25222697
>it feels really disjointed and a pain to read through at times
That's Umineko for you. Why would you single out ep6 for that? Ep4 was way worse in that regard.
+ep6 had some of the best magical fights
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>>25222925
You're right. I think only the first 2 eps when the scope of the story was smaller feel better in this regard.
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>>25219030
damn george is built like that?
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>>25219030
>>25218999
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If Naima is so cute, how come she's got one of those?
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>>25223323
We all have one of those.
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>>25221450
You should read/listen to Haworthia which is connected to Ciconia in some ways. (without the space)
https://haworthia.home.bl og
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>>25222519
yeah the only thing we really know about them is that sorrow has/had a granddaughter and ridicule sent bait to the holy ark order.

WALLS OF PEACE and other faults aside, the framework of ciconia is probably one of the most intersting things about it. it's weird how even now nobody has a solid theory on what is going on in ciconia and what all these factions are even striving for exactly.
i hope ryukishi manages to exceed my expectations here, that would definitely add a lot to ciconia.
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>>25221450
Ciconia is basically Conspiracy Theory: The Novel. I fucking love it.
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Hey guys, I haven't finished Higurashi yet, so please use spoiler tags if you talk about Minagoroshi and Matsuribayashi from now on.
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>>25224339
Nobody has a theory because there isn't enough material to even build one on. We don't even know what questions are being posed.
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>>25224620
I don't think I will. now get outta here
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Hey guys I found this cool Higurashi MAD using the R07 style and I wanted to share it.
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17744906
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>>25224855
No, it's like questioning the existence of Oyashiro-Sama or witches after reading the question arcs of Higurashi and Umineko. Of course you can already come up with theories. Hell, you even should.
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>>25221705
What a fucking great google doc, it gave me the same satisfactory feeling when reading through weird conspiracy stuff from /pol/ ans /x/ years ago when I was still young and easily impressed.
Would it be safe to say that Ryukishi is guilty of plagiarism here? kek
I think he even inserted a quote of Dali about how not trying to imitate something results in not creating anything at all. Perhaps this can serve as a metaphor both for the writer of this story, and the World Reset Cult or whatever trying to follow and imitate/reproduce the contents within the Book of Revelations and making it happen somehow. Proving that it's only a plan and not a prophecy as Tomitake assumed.
>>25221873
Thanks for the recommandation my man. I tend to prefer non fiction stuff outside of VNs but I have to give them a try.
>>25221980
So who's the snake in our case?
>>25222286
There are high chances that Meow gave Tomitake the Keys to Miyao's Gauntlet. Wouldn't that make her Judas, or at least a traitor in our situation?
>>25224146
Dude what the fuck the last time I saw these designs was in 2017 or something. I remember when we thought, wanted even, that WTC 5 would take place on a spaceship.
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>>25225100
meow is pretty much guarateed to be a traitor. because the only people that could have leaked rethabile meeting with cyril was miyao/meow, keropoyo and rethabile herself.
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>>25225225
I too thought of suspecting Rethabile expecting the usual Ryukishi narrative trick but... I don't know. She seemed to have her head on her shoulders, and at one point mentioned she was ready to take responsibility for her actions. These words don't come out from the mouth of someone willing to help destroying the world to be reborn anew, but we never know as she might be a CPP just like the others.
Nah I really used to suspect her but I can't think she'd be a traitor. Must have been Meow
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>>25225100
Judas doesn't really appear in the Revelations, though. Basically, we know that at least one of Miyao's personalities is Christ, because Vier is the Holy Mother.

There's three pieces of evidence in support of this: first, and weakest, Vier wears a cross, signifying her alliance to Heaven. Second, she has the same eyes as Madonna in Salvador Dali's painting "The Maximum Speed of Raphael's Madonna", which Ciconia references. Third, she is allied with the blue beings, who are almost certainly supposed to be biblical angels.

Since Vier is the Holy Mother, her child is Christ. Thus, whatever personality is original to that body should be called Christ. We know that "Miyao" is a killer program (probably installed by Seshat), so he is not the original personality. So Christ is either Meow, or some unknown third personality.

If you assume that Miyao is the Antichrist, then Meow betraying his side would mean she is on the side of Heaven, correct?
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>>25225436
miyao is also christ (god?) because he made a prophecy and the story went out of their way to specify that only god makes those.
well technically anti miyao did but anti miyao admitted himself to just be miyaos conscience.

so miyao is
>christ
>born to be a game piece according to his mother
>directly responsible for the wars according to anti miyao
>dead according to anti miyao
>and also a girl
is there anything miyao isn't at this point?
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>>25225682
Blue!Miyao wants to destroy Miyao. In other words, whatever side Miyao is on, Blue!Miyao is on the opposite side.

Assume that Blue!Miyao can make prophecies because he is an angel of God. Now Miyao, who is opposed to Blue!Miyao, is also opposed to God. Which makes sense if Miyao is indeed the Antichrist.
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>>25223821
It's still really pathetic and obscene how Naima is a mortal like everyone else. She doesn't look like she's got an ass.
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>>25225762
wouldn't vier being the holy mother not make sense then?
also i can definitely see the parallels but i'm more interested in what it means in the end.
meow probably plays a role here as well. i wonder if pic related is referring to either of them.

>>25225273
one thing i found interesting is how in the last chapter, the mother says that miyao is a free person, but only until he gets used as a game piece.
that sounds kinda similar to how miyao is sometimes not conscious when meow takes over.
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>>25225100
>What a fucking great google doc
I agree, but they had to fuck it up with the trans right shit at the very end. I've got nothing against the trannies themselves, but whoever wrote that is probably a raging SJW. They always are.
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>>25225273
Shannon didn't seem like the type to kill herself and her boyfriend, but here we are. You never know what someone is hiding.
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>>25225436
The cross medal and droopy eyes were already in Takano from Higurashi. Is this some insane foreshadowing?
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I really think Ciconia is going to go full NGE
Virtual world will be like tang world. A place to escape all your earthly troubles from and simply live a life of joy without pain. That human factory we saw could've been the method of getting there.
Jestress is a reincarnation of Toujirou's wife, that's why he wanted to see her face.
The angel wings that come from the Gauntlets are due to the weapons being derived from some higher being.
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>>25225762
Miyao is definitely a good guy. He's just being a dick about it because Miyao refuses to believe his warnings.

It's like if Meta Battler tried to speak to piece Battler and make him act a certain way. Piece Battler would deny him as a delusion and keep doing his thing.
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What are some objective WTC opinions? I'll start
Higurashi OPs > Umineko OPs
Umineko EDs > Higurashi EDs
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>>25225985
I think God is some sort of AI that manages the matrix. Toujirou is trying to fuck up the world and cause wars to force "God" to intervene and take the opponent's seat.
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I love the technology in Ciconia, but it would be insane if it turned out that it functions so perfectly and flawlessly because everyone is literally connected to each other in a matrix world.
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>>25226163
Good is a matter of perspective. If you believe God's plan is evil and cruel, like Seshat does, then presumably you will think Miyao is a good person for opposing it.
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>>25226179
Rena>Mion is yet another objective truth of the wtc franchise.
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>>25226123
I think Jestress might be either a clone of Vier or Vier herself pretending to be a different person and using an avatar from her youth.

The Vier in the lab could be the real one too, but it's possible she and all the scientists are just digital copies of the originals and the lab is not a physical place. Not even brains in jars, just straight up data.
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>>25226179
wtf is OPs and EDs supposed to mean here?
The Higu VNs had none of that shit.
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>>25226123
So, you're saying Ciconia is a Texhnolyze rip-off, but with more homosexuals?
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>>25226321
Console release had OPs
https://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=E6Uko5IWUVc

>>25226282
That would be interesting, honestly with the whole VR stuff, we have no way to discern what is taking place in VR and what is happening in the real world. I'm sure that'll be a twist later on.

>>25226331
Basically, yes.
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>>25226321
True, but Hou was the first to have an OP in its original version and it's pretty good. Although very spoilery.

The console OPs are good too, but the Hou OP is the only one with Ryu art and it feels a lot more like Higurashi.
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>>25223323
I wonder if Naima feels pathetic for being a young girl. After all, liking her is kinda gay because she's got a flat chest and a boyish butt.
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>>25226511
simply mindblowing
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>>25226511
Being cute or attractive is pathetic because you get imagined butt-naked and humiliated A LOT more than a normal girl.

Being ugly would be way less pathetic.
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A Japanese that has trouble reading Higurashi because of all the kanji.
https://streamable.com/6gjkbk
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What's the kanji for humiliation?
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Ryukishi07 is good at writting because of his parents.
https://0707toshokan.wordpress.com/2020/08/05/how-to-make-higurashi-cry/
>— As you said yourself, Higurashi is a very organized and well structured story. Where this ability to create such complicated stories comes from, how do you think?

>Ryukishi: Mm, I’ve said this earlier, but I don’t read a lot…

>Ryukishi: If that’s true, it’s probably our parents’ influence…

>Yatazakura: True.

>Ryukishi: Our parents always complain a lot when watching movies and other stuff.

>— Oh.

>Ryukishi: Like, when they watch a movie on TV, they make comments like “What an idiot, why they didn’t do it like that” or “Lame, I can predict what comes next”. It was that way since we were children, so I didn’t like watching anime and other things. I didn’t want them to be criticized. So I always had a thought that “I don’t want parents to criticize me” *laughs* …So, it’s not like I am thinking hard in order to create a complex structure, rather it’s the result of watching our parents criticizing fiction and having the impression that “parts that are criticized are bad”.

>— Feels like it’s something that has developed naturally in you.

>Ryukishi: Yes, it’s the influence of our parents. Our father hates digressions in fiction. It often happens in war movies when the action goes into a slump, and he really hates that.

>*Everyone laughs*

>Ryukishi: That’s why I feel that I have to connect all events to each other without hesitation. The less there is plaster between the events the better. Because entertainment has to entertain, I must place entertaining pieces one after another. I mostly think about that, it’s not something deep really.
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>>25237328

https://jisho.org/search/%E8%80%BB%20%23kanji
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>>25237942
But then why did he only do it with Higurashi, Rose Guns Days and Higanbana ? Because that's not the case with Umineko nor Ciconia
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>>25237942
This reminds me of when Battler and Jessica made fun of a kid's cartoon in the parlor while Jooji shared a drink with Maria hoping to take the glass and lick the sweet loli saliva off of it.
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>>25238058
Would ijime/bullying be organized humiliation in the same way mafias are organized crime?
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>>25238316
Yeah, there is lot of plothole on Umineko, but I think that it was on purpose to create many theories with those on the story. The storytelling is ambiguous.
I mean, with Last Note of the Golden Witch, we can create a theory were Erika is Rudolf illegitimate's daughter because of Piece's hair color, etc.

For Ciconia, we had only Phase 1. We don't know with certainty where Ryukishi07 wants to take us with the Gauntlet Knights.
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>>25240663
I was merely jesting, anon. I don't believe there's a plothole in Umineko maybe besides Yasu surviving falling from that cliff.
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Hinamizawa hijinks are getting a bit weirder today
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If I can have sex with Rika... then maybe...
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>>25240856
>>25240884
Different posters, just that you would know
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>>25241718
sneed
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>>25150148
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>>25242478
Where exactly is Rudolf touching Rosa?
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>>25224146
finally went through this.
so people think that ciconia takes place after the events of haworthia? i guess it's possible.

>sunya sky
i loved this track in ciconia, it was probably my favorite. nice to see that there is a voiced version out there as well.
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>>25243564
I wonder when Pink Justice will play.
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>>25242665
They're siblings you sick bastard.
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>>25244109
that's why Maria is retarded
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>>25244521
Retards can't memorize the whole Bible. I prefer the term "autistic savant".
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>>25150148
wow it took me forever to realize that Jessica is just Mion again, except blonde and therefore dumber by default. I'm stupid.
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>>25245985
Jessica is less interesting than Mion in every way. Shouldn't it have been the other way around?
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>>25246388
>Shouldn't it have been the other way around?
huh?
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>>25246468
.diputs m'I .tluafed yb rebmud erofereht dna ednolb tpecxe ,niaga noiM tsuj si acisseJ taht ezilaer ot reverof em koot ti wow
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>>25246546
ah yes, orange text
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>>25246773
I remember when EP6 had just come out and pics like these were circulating.
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>>25246826
man I just realized that /sci/ supports TeX formatting
I could literally redtruth meme over there
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>>25245985
Hmm they have similar airs to them but honestly they're kinda different, Mion is more charismatic and proactive and more tomboyish than Jessica, Also Jessica is a bit more introverted and she is also more honest to herself about her feelings, even if she does the whole thing of joking around to hide her pain (esp with Kanon) she doesn't do it as well as Mion.
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>>25246904
I'm not saying they're 100% copies, but they share a lot of similarities. Heirs to a powerful family, tomboys, would rather spend time with their friends than do family head business, soft on the inside, get flustered easily and lose their cool when teased by others or confronted by their love interest, ponytail, martial artists, constantly offer advice to Keiichi/Battler, also both can scream and cry like a champ.

Thing is Jessica has a lot less relevance in the plot than Mion, and a lot less air time too. She gets a bit of a spotlight for her fights in ep4 and 6 but that's about it. Mion's constantly there, outside of himatsubishi, and is the leader of the bunch.

It isn't a coincidence that official promo art had Jessica and Mion wearing each other's clothes either.
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>>25247259
>Heirs to a powerful family, would rather spend time with their friends than do family head business,
that's the key difference between the two, I think. Mion acknowledges her role as family heir and does her best to live up to her families and communities expectations because she genuinely feels a sense of kinship with them - something that was further solidified during the dam conflict, while Jessica doesn't respect what her parents are doing or want any part of the legacy of the ushiromiya family.
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>>25247450
>Jessica doesn't respect what her parents are doing
I agree with you about the public appearances part, but that's just wrong. Jessica acknowledges her parents' efforts numerous times and deeply respects them. She just doesn't want to be forced into the role of the successor.
Mion on the other hand takes on the role of Sonozaki head with dutifully while calling her grandmother an old hag or too stubborn behind her back.
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>>25247705
Yeah. Mion said she was legitimately about to choke her grandma to death when she still thought she was the reason Satoshi disappeared, it was only then that Oryou told her that the Sonozakis' bad fame regarding kidnappings and disappearances has always been a lie for the sake of keeping up appearances with the villagers.
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>>25247259
I understand Jessica-Mion (similar characters) and Maria-Hanyuu (same VA) but why Shannon-Rena?
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>>25248262
Foreshadowing?
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>>25248317
I guess. Wouldn't surprise me if Ryukishi requested it.
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>>25248262
They have some similar sprites and they are both the oldfashioned housewive type in the group. A bit farstretched, but it works better than Maria-Hanyuu for me.
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>>25248481
Now that's reaching.
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>>25248525
It's the same for Jessica and Maria though.
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>>25248924
Not at all, their reasons are extremely obvious and evident. Shannon and Rena is just ???
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>>25248951
If they're so obvious, name them ???
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>>25248986
Anon...
>>25248262
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bump
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>>25241718
Explain the joke
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>>25248405
There is also that Rena was the last Higurashi girl in which Shannon could cosplay to.
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>>25248262
>>25248525
>>25248951
Both Rena and Shannon are presented as the demure/shy type of cute "girl". Rena breaks this mold a bit by having her cute autistic mode. Both characters are actually extremely fake in how the present themselves to others and are actually way smarter and aware than they let others perceive them as. Mentally strong in crisis situations and also extremely protective of their own "happiness" and will kill people who try to destroy it.
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Would Jessica beat Mion in a fight?
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>>25250132
>kill people
More like Shannon would kill herself and Rena would become a stripper.
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What if Ryukishi wanted to do something similar to the new anime Deca-Dence with Ciconia?
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>>25250202
not in a club activity, Mion is smarter and more adaptive than Jessica, but Jessica would probably win in a fight to the death because she's less inhibited when it comes to violence.
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>>25250302
Mion destroyed Okonogi in close combat, Jessica has picked up some boxing moves from her father.
This one is not even a question.
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>>25250302
Didn't Mion beat the fuck out of Okonogi? And she's totally OK with her family murdering troublesome people and throwing them in the well.
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>>25250342
Okonogi is a middle aged guy and he was demoralized because their plan got ruined. He just wanted to beat someone up and finally have a good fight, but he underestimated Mion's agility.

Jessica is young and fit, so she'd put up a better fight. But yeah, in a fight to the death Mion would totally destroy her anyway, strip her naked and set that little bitch's bush on fire.
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>>25250342
miracle fragments don't count. If you look at Mion from 1 through 7, it's clear that she isn't any more of a CQC master than Satoko is an invincible trap laying genius. the chapter 8 powerlevels are Ryukishi having fun fucking around, similar to uminekos ep8.
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>>25250460
Mion being capable of military combat was already foreshadowed pretty early on, even though it was never shown. Jessica on the other hand was mostly portrayed as a rough, tomboyish fair maiden in chapters 1-7 (+ she has asthma). All of her combat scenes were either jokes or magical illusions as well if Matsuribayashi doesn't count.
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>Keiichi dies of heart failure
>Satoko kills herself when she grows up and realizes she killed her own parents for no reason
>Mion probably gets kidnapped, raped and tortured to death by rival yakuza with a grudge against her family
>Rena is a two-faced schizo and will end up in a mental institution as soon as something goes wrong in her life
>Satoshi will never recover until he's 35+ and then he'll be arrested because the police already knows he did it
They are fucked.
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>>25250460
Mion is capable of all that. But it's true that the final fragment is protected by Bernkastel and everyone is luckier than normal.

I actually love that. I like how many times they got saved by luck or threw themselves into a dangerous situation and managed to come out unscathed by luck. It fits with Bern's power and the tone of the story. It's not like they did anything impossible or lacked the skill either, the final fragment is just set up to make luck favor them a little and prevent random chance from fucking it all up. Mion could totally beat Okonogi, but he could as easily have beaten Mion. Same with everyone falling for the traps. Luck simply smiled at them and made a miracle happen, to reward them for their determination. There are times this happens IRL too, when you do something reckless and miraculously manage to win thanks to a bit of luck.

Miyoko finding a coin, remembering the phone number off the top of her mind, or Leo outsmarting the 40 dude are other examples of luck giving people the edge they needed to succeed.
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passionate handholding with yasu
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>>25250218
>stripper Rena

hot
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>>25250737
Would you do lewd things to Rena, Anon..?
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>>25250737
The mere fact that Rena considered the idea of becoming an underage stripper like Rina-san, even if only for a few pages, is just mindblowing. She's a teenage girl, and yet she was willing to throw away her dignity for peace and tranquility. Lewd!
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If I could have sex with Rena, then perhaps...
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>>25251350
what would sex with rena feel like?
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>>25251383
A slow, long-lasting and vibrant escalation of pleasure made to last for at least several hours during the night just like how a blue flame burns quietly
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>>25251383
a coldly calculated but well-acted facade of heartfelt bonding. depending on your level of emotional awareness you may accept the lie or see through it.
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>>25251383
Like watching a cringe compilation. The sight of a naked Rena moaning from getting her arse fucked is just pathetic.
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Is it really that simple to murder people? Hinamizawian afternoon school club pulls no punches, at this point only Satoko with Mion seem innocent. Meakashi was especially traumatizing and fucking awful on part with Shion, i'm putting off reading other R7' works after higurashi
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>>25252083
k
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>>25241738
Formely Gaap's
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So in RGD did Yuri Kisaragi fucking kill himself or was he hunted down by Iguana man? I can't imagine him living in peace after that.
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>>25250930
Mion could arrange for her to work in one of the Sonozaki owned strip clubs and fake her ID so she can work with the other underage strippers.
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Maria so cute and yet and yet
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>>25252647
and yet
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>>25252491
He probably lost all what he had left of his mental sanity. Their story was so sad. Screw gab
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>>25253201
And yet.....
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>>25250132
I agree with you but let me just say that Rena is a lot less shy than Shannon, even when she's not in kyuute mode she's still assertive like when she's doing club activities and gets really pumped up (most noticeably the water gun game). Shannon's shy side is all about submissiveness and clumsiness on the other hand, as an inexperienced servant. Very, very quiet compared to Rena.

Actually even when Rena gets shy it's different, since it's often more about sudden lewd thoughts coming to her mind due to overthinking things. Plus unlike Shannon, her being smarter than she looks isn't really a secret since pretty much everyone mentions it, Rena constantly offers deep advice to her friends after all. Mion and co also know that they shouldn't talk about things that might make Rena start sperging out about her time in Ibaraki.
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That was the one great climax. Sadly, circus performance is long from over, but it might be enough for Rika to revise her alcoholism
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If they lived in the present time, Rena would have a website where she posts spiritual shit, conspiracy theories and "proves" the existence of ayys. Rosa would have a successful clickbait Youtube channel where she mildly abuses and humiliates Maria on camera while making it look like an innocent prank.
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Why did Ryukishi tweet about euphoria
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>>25250930
Actually iirc, wasn't she talking about a cabaret club instead? Aren't those the ones that are just about chatting up lonely dudes and making them buy the club's expensive drinks?
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ange failing as a struggling author and only able to find employment as a stripper
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>>25258846
she is rich
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>>25258929
she gave up all her wealth
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>>25250132
I don't think it's appropriate to call Rena's emotions "fake", we've seen her narrate from her own perspective her desires to see Satoko and Rika in inappropriate outfits and shows genuine adrenaline during intense club activities, but more importantly it's her enjoyment of the days in Hinamizawa with her friends that's the most real emotion of them all hence why it's what she wants to protect the most, which is why Rina's appearance affects her so much. I also wouldn't call her being murderous a straight up character trait since it only happens in Tsumihoroboshi due to her mental deterioration just like it happened with Keiichi before. In Minagoroshi she says she that solved the matter peacefully and that she remembered her poor choice of actions in the previous world. She doesn't even kill the yamainu members who are actually trying to murder her and her friends, just smacks them in the head with the back of her hatchet.
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How would Matsuri have changed if Mion had the mafia go all out against Takano's men and capture the bitch dead or alive?
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>>25259067
Rena must be the only VN female character who is into preteen girls without being a straight up lesbian. What a weird girl.
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>>25259173
What about nah, I can't think of any others.
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>>25259173
Makes you wonder what would actually happen if she actually managed to take them all the way home without anyone stopping her.
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>>25259173
Rena is secretly into humiliation and corruption, so she likes anyone who is super cute because imagining them corrupted is hotter. It's not their cunnies she's interested in.
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>>25259224
Deranged!
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>>25219030
This would be fine if they all had the TinTin artstyle like George.
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anyone know where to find higanbana in japanese? the nyaa ones arent seeded
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>>25260576
Try Erogedownload. I believe it comes in Japanese, but if it has the English patch you just have to use the original .exe instead of the English one. It's not like it's a hard patch or anything, just a file you drop into the main folder.
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>>25260642
ty i will try that
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>>25156743
Yeah it opens way too room for """""foreshadowed""""" asspulls because the African guy actually had like six personalities
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>>25260822
You are supposed to look for foreshadowing instead of suspecting the author of using cheap tricks like that.
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>>25260822
>tfw Ishak is actually all 6 of the RGD mafia goons
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>>25260822
I would be OK with it if Gunhild pulled another personality from her pale teenage ass.
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>>25261769
She's 20+ dude. She's lying to the others about her true age and purpose. That's why she introduced her adult shop owner sister as a "friend". If they knew she was her factory sister, the ages wouldn't add up.
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>>25261665
kek
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If I could have sex with Xiaolan, then...
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>>25262014
You'd get corona and die.
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>>25262014
>wanting to be anywhere near a naked female chinklet
Degenerate.
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>>25259143
It would've been a lot better.
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>>25262014
She's like 13 by the end, so she's probably got a hairy 40s bush that doesn't fit her loli body and budding tits at all.
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>>25263420
Kekerino kekko.
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What's the deal with hecka cute girls having arses? Who thought it was a good idea?
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>>25260576
collector anon has the original japanese versions of everything in the mega he linked

https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ



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