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This thread is for discussions relating to quality works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (in Japanese)
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Kara no Kyoukai the Garden of sinners
Kara no Kyoukai novel (in Japanese)
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/%E5%A5%88%E9%A0%88%E3%81%8D%E3%81%AE%E3%81%93_%E7%A9%BA%E3%81%AE%E5%A2%83%E7%95%8C/index.html
English translations by cokesakto
https://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/kara-no-kyokai-translations-2/
Kara no Kyoukai Anime Movies
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime
https://mega.nz/#!6TBSSTbR!4O6JYv1dyyRw7GQeHJ4NIUYUTQ--tuy9H8s69HgL5lY
Tsukihime PLUS-DISC
https://nyaa.si/view/453758
Tsukihime - Kagetsu Tohya
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2502321
Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ

>Melty Blood
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection (updated 2018-05-30)
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate stay night Réalta Nua
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2725572
Fate hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
Fate Zero
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-5XtCxJULf4YWZfSkZKWGc2S2M
Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5943-Lord-El-Melloi-II-Case-Files?p=3041785&viewfull=1#post3041785

>Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - Witch on the Holy Night
VN: https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsFw
English Patch: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nUY3G5Z8tgBnfvELhbLiYhmLolDI2TwC/
French Patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french

Other works
>Angel Voice (A doujin anthology that contains the short novel "Notes." written by Nasu, and the Manga "clowick canaan-vail" drawn by Takeuchi.)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip
>Fate Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Fate Extra
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-mod/
>Fate Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
https://mega.nz/#!aAsCybqb!WwnKiMn_HK9HqvA_myhLn5GM0yeAv8TTxyQsWWpqaGs
>Fate strange Fake
https://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade manga
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/lli17cum6jzg7/Marmalade
>Tsuki no Sango
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>Tsuki no Sango Manga
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1

Other links
>Beast's Lair
forums.nrvnqsr.com
>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ
>Fate complete material II Character material
https://pastebin.com/Zjy1Sj6d
>Fate Art Books
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nmo3TqWLRgvl9M7MxzuWKDe3rAP1LVut?usp=sharing
>Fate Franchise Loseless Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>Type-Moon Comic Ace
https://web-ace.jp/tmca/
>TMdict
tmdict.com/
>Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc)
tsukikan.com/
>Tsukihime Archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
>Tsukihime doujins from 2008
https://mega.nz/#!fHgSVb5L!EPDHKU2KHLdjW1bM2b0-VV7WzrA9xPqrLnJTu0AkwyY
>TYPE-MOON 10th Anniversary Phantasm translation
http://heavens-feel.com/type-moon_10_anniversary_phantasm_translation.html
>Type-Moon Mega folders
https://mega.nz/#F!tBRTDDLT!6-uk9SmrvHKLFYU_3QTwgQ
https://mega.nz/#F!IEgnySDK!wvEo43UGmHFEKC1JBVykGw

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Olga is the most powerful AND cute!
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>>25119179
>>>/vg/301617036
You have something to say for yourself?
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>>25119190
Purely coincidence, I assure you.
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>>25118534
>English Patch: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nUY3G5Z8tgBnfvELhbLiYhmLolDI2TwC/
>1-8 chapters
so its full translation?
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>>25119611
No, it is probably just over half done.
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>>25119630
fuck...
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It's out, and here are the mats.
Do with them whatever.
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>>>/vrpg/
While alright, people have been screaming for a mobile game containment board for ages now.
Fucking hiroshimoot.
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>>25120014
/alter/ already went there and promptly got kicked out.
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>>25120014
And an eceleb board. But instead we get an RPG board? God, Hiro is retarded.
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>there is a problem with the a particular board
>shall we attempt to moderate it?
>nah, too much work, just make more boards
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>>25120927
Yeah ecelebs are a problem, on yt and twitch it is a big deal, and leddit has numerous avenues to discuss it.
But here it really fits nowhere and /v/ goes to become even worse because of it.
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>>25120977
The counterargument is that /v/ is already fucked beyond belief, and so to give people boards to migrate to instead of making containment boards.
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>that olgamarie discusion last thread
You know, I don't even really care that it's fgo related, but holy shit, can you at least put in effort in your grammar and synthax? Shit was a fucking pain to read.
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>>25120994
>people boards to migrate
So do the shitposters. Just look at /vg/ where you have those same symptoms turning up as well.
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>>25120977
You can complain to the mods if you want. They won't do anything. In 5 more years half of the boards on 4channel will resemble /v/ with vtubers and other off topic crap. /jp/'s posting speed already quadrupled because of vtubers. Its fucking over.
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>>25120014
I think a fighting game board would be nice. You could even have Soku and Melty threads there.
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>>25123541
/afgg/ are glorified melty threads
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>>25120014
I'm just happy to have noscript captcha back. I don't a fuck about /v/. That place was always trash.
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>>25119679
https://exhentai.org/g/1697172/edd2cbf1ba/
Already out.
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>>25127316
There is already quite a backlash over the trap routes being cut.
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>>25119679
>>25127316
somebody tell me if this is worth it for anything but porn
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>>25128209
I'd tell you if I knew Japanese.
I think people have said the writing is solid, the gameplay is quite weird though, that I can tell you.
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>>25128334
well there's no rip in nyaa anyway so remind me in 2 years or something
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>>25129216
There is the CG rip, but no game rip.
Game rip should come any time now, there is no DRM or anything like that.
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Anyone know a good ttrpg for running a campaign set in the nasuverse?

No servant/fate stuff, more along the lines of el-melloi and tsukhimie stuff.
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>>25129880
I was thinkikng about that myself recently, considering the Monster of the Week rules but giving it second thoughts. I hear the FATE RPG system that uses fudge dice would work alright.
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>>25130322
Yeah when looking in the past i've heard good things about the dresden rpg which uses the FATE rpg system but i'm not sure how well dresdens magic would translate to the nasuverse style of magic.
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>>25118534
I think fgo had potential to be good, but because nays having so little faith in this project initially really ruined writing of me and writing of part 1
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>>25132561
>I think fgo had potential to be good
It never had the potential to be good, the idea of making a gacha already handicaps story and writing
Gachas based on actual franchises can only work as fanservice shit or as a way to show side stories that don't affect the main line but are still okay to read through and of course
Using a gacha to expand your franchise or start a new series will always end up hurting everyone in the process, don't think FGO is the only victim unique to this, they decided to do a fucking Madoka gacha to continue the fucking series and retards eat it up
I don't like rebellion but come on at least finish the fucking sequel
fuck Aniplex
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>>25133805
that may be a dumb question but what does fgo lack of ?

Can't they just make a more traditional VNgame in a gacha ?
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Was this posted already?
Wasn't present at the time it was published and thread seems to be new.
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>>25133830
They could have. But they made utterly retarded decisions at the start and hired an incompetent developer, so at this point the game has pretty much hit a wall and they can't change much anymore. Their code is too shit, pretty much. Nasu talked about this in an interview a year ago, how it would be better for them to write a new app.
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>>25133805
This, the gacha format just fucks everything up.
If FGO was lets say a LN series or a manga it could work heck it could even be interesting.
>>25133830
Gacha limits the story you can tell quite a bit, you have to extend the plot to fit the levels also you are forced to have a big cast (gotta sell characters) and so on, basicaly everything revolves around the gacha elements in some way of another.
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>>25134394
Nah the code has nothing to do with the real problems. >>25134413 sums those up quite well. Because the money in gacha doesn't come from selling the game but rather using the game as a vehicle to sell characters, it limits what you can do with them a great deal and forces an ever-expanding and bloated ensemble cast most of whom will never receive any sort of coherent arc. Basically with gacha, the writing can never be the real priority, and that will always show.
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>>25133805
I play FGO myself, my problems with it are how the gameplay is so divorced from the story. The premise of it doesn't match up with what you're actually doing enough, unless at some point they said something like the servants you summon are weaker than the ones that were specifically summoned locally. Even then, that doesn't match up once it gets to the higher levels.
But what really gets me about it is that there's just not enough writing. You've got a POV character but without any POV. The only writing is dialogue, and we miss out on so much.
Until recently I had only watched TM anime and played FGO but I started reading Tsukihime this year and it's so much better in terms of writing and being present in the story.
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>>25134771
the worst part is that FGO nowadays has support for the old TM text display type but they choose to almost never use it
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>>25132561

Nah, only the characters and servants had potential. Well that's how I felt for them to be used for something greater other than gacha.
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>>25133872
Yep, in the previous thread
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>>25133830
The protagonist/player character lacks character depth. You're basically there as a camera, rather than an actual person. Sure, you might occasionally get the option to make some snarky lines during comedy events, but at the end, it still doesn't really count much beyond being a generic shounen protag. So you'll say some stock phrases like 'We have to save them!', then cut to the saving being done and it's just like 'Good job, player character, your great strategy was what allowed us to clinch victory!' or "Thanks to you great negotiation skills, you managed to persuade whoever!". It just feels empty. They tell you you're this and that but you never actually see HOW you're being what you're praised for.

Characters also talk through you rather than actually interacting with each other. The manga does attempt to fix this to make the narrative flow feels more natural.
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>>25134771
Gameplay and story segregation is fucking abysmal with FGO. They didn't even try.

For me, the worst part is the protagonist. A story's protagonist is really the one thing you have to get at least somewhat correct.
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It's kind of a bummer seeing all these Casko doujins with the FGO protag. Been going on for awhile now but I think the majority of her doujins now are with the FGO protag, not the Extra protag.
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>>25139898
soon it will happen to Arc
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>Gudao
I thought this was his actual name for years before finding out that this was a made up name because the protagonist literally doesn't have a name. Fucking gatchashit.
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>>25139984
They only thought of the name Fujimaru Ritsuka when they started working on First Order anime, but even then the fanbase were already familiar with Gudao/Gudako
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>>25139898
There's a shitload of Gudao + Illya doujin now too. This is the power of FGO.
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>>25139876
Well at least from Babylonia and onwards they try to give them some character, like a ptsd of Olga's death or giving dialogue options showing their trauma etc.
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>>25139898
And that's why Wisespeak is my favorite Casko artist. Draws her with a hairy twat and her canon husband.
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>>25140082
most of illya's doujins are trash though, I wouldn't mind the gudao ones if we actually got some quality and real artists like Henrybird
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>>25140431
>most of illya's doujins are trash though
pretty much. oh boy, another Illya doujin where she's mind controlled by an obese old dude, zzzzzz
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I just want Prisma doujin of Shirou having emotionless sex with Angelica. Is that too much to ask?
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>>25140454
lord bless Sen and tsurugi for doing good shit with illya
I wish momio did more stuff and I hope henrybird eventually decides to do a doujin with the holy trinity too
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>>25118534
I don't know why you guys really butt mad at angel notes and tsukuhime being connected to fate? It was obvious from start they were connected
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What's the canon explanation of God/YHWH in Nasuverse? Is he a Divine Spirit of some kind like the Olympians? Where can I read about it?
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>>25143302
I think it used to be implied that He was somehow one-and-the-same as Akasha, although I'm not sure my memory can be trusted.
Presently, I haven't got the slightest fucking idea.
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>>25143480
That's cool, no worries. Is Tsukihime the most church-centric/related TM stuff? Are there any stories about, like, an Executor squad going out to hunt vampires?
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>>25143014
I think you might have misunderstood the grievances that most people have with this.
I, at least, am mostly mad that they're -not- connected anymore - the dumbass bullshit Fate/Tsukihime Worlds retcon, for instance - and the way this is used to essentially scavenge Tsukihime's corpse for parts. Primate Murder has been retconned out of existence to prop up Fou. Roa is dead so that Dantes looks cooler. Blackmore is dead for no apparent reason. The DAAs as a whole are gone for stupid Servant-wanking lore. ORT is about to get fucked to make I-don't-even-know-what look cool. Sion and Zepia are gone forever while new characters wear their faces and names because those are what you cared about, right? If we call this new character Sion, you'll clap like a seal and give us your money, right?
(And fuck off if you're going to say something like, "it's a split timeline so they haven't been retconned out so it's fine." First of all, that split timeline is a retcon itself, so everything that follows is also a retcon. Second and much more importantly, as if we're ever going to see the originals ever again. "Tsukihime Worlds" don't really exist in any meaningful way, they're just lip-service paid to soothe cranky old bastards like me)
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Well, whatever the tsukihime remake becomes, I wished Tsukihime in general got the Mahoyo treatment sooner.
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>>25143623
This.
Inb4 you're a powerlevelfag and no one actually cared about these characters
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>>25143519
I don't think there's much in the way of church-centric stuff in general, come to think of it. Tsukihime is probably the heaviest on it, that's true, but not by that much.
The closest I can think of to stories like that off the top of my head - and keep in mind I know absolutely nothing about anything labelled Fate from 2012 or later - are "Talk," a prologue to Tsukihime 2 featuring Ciel and Merem venturing into the Forest of Einnashe; and "Sunao/Zero," a Starlit Marmalade bonus chapter about an apprentice executor taking down... you know, I don't even remember what that thing was supposed to be. You'll probably have to look at fanfic if you want Executor-centric stories.
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>>25143623
>Primate Murder has been retconned out of existence to prop up Fou.
I thought that's just in THAT timeline in FGO where he got the experience the power of friendship and that he can still be Primate Murder in other timelines.
>Roa is dead so that Dantes looks cooler.
Similarly, that's only in that particular timeline where Roa was gimped.
The other timelines are still out there where Roa can still be like in Tsuki side.
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>>25143776
This is part of the problem and is of no comfort whatsoever.
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>>25143796
How so? That actually leaves the option open that whoever out there can still do more tsuki side spin-off with Nasu's blessing. FGO can do whatever the fuck they want, while the spin-off can do their own version of Tsuki Strange Fake in their pocket universe.
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>>25143830
Timelines are cancer. Ruining a character in one universe because you can't maintain consistency -- or even try to -- and going, "Well, don't worry, in *this* timeline your character is completely fine!" is just wish fulfillment bullshit.
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>>25143776
Please read my post in its entirety before you respond. None of that matters because those timelines functionally do not exist.
Frankly, it would be easier to swallow if they did just say, "this has been retconned out of existence." This shallow, "Yeah it's totally still canon, it's just in an alternate timeline. Which we'll never touch ever again." is just more infuriating because, well, why should I care? If it was retconned out entirely, I'd just go on as usual enjoying those things anyway whether they were canon or not; meanwhile, this wildly half-assed attempt at pretending to care just makes them look not only uncaring, but almost actively malicious, because they're giving themselves an easy out on their carrion-eating so they can go on without guilt, but it's really just sophistry that's meant to placate people like me rather than any meaningful commitment to their previously-existing setting and characters.
If I had any reason to believe that the Tsukihime remake was ever actually going to release, and that there would continue to be Tsukihime releases afterwards, I probably wouldn't mind half as much. I probably would not mind at all, even.
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>>25143858
>Timelines are cancer.
You're kinda late on that front. I mean, Nasu made Zalreth for that very reason eons ago.

>>25143901
And as I said here >>25143830 it's keeping the option open. Whether they want to take that option is another issue entirely.

>>25143858
>you can't maintain consistency
I disagree, it's what gives freedom for different interpretations.
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>>25143938
Uh, right. Different interpretations which are not consistent with the original.
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>>25143938
No, they aren't. The option is open to them regardless of whether they say things like that. If you retcon something out, you can just retcon it back, or write something so that it follows on as if there were no retcon.
Saying, "oh it's totally still canon in an alternate timeline," is not leaving the option open. It's an empty promise. For as long as that promise stays empty - and I'm pretty much confident that that's going to be until Tsukihime passes into public domain - it's the functional equivalent of a parent telling their child that their dead pet really just went away to a farm somewhere. That might be a bit dramatic, but it gets the point across, I hope.
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Timelines are just a terrible compromise between an absurd attachment to having one only "canon" and the will to write different stories with similar premises or common elements. It almost inevitably to some terrible, time-travel-tier writing whenever it's actually brought-up in-universe and serves no other purpose than fan-service.
The Gundam franchise, for example does this perfectly fine. You get multiple different universes and canons, with even some contradictory ones (Thunderbolt vs the original OYW, Unicorn vs late UC) and dumb crossovers yet at no point does is it justified by in-universe timelines, it's simply different stories. Fiction is just fiction, you don't need parallel universes to justify writing a magical girl story with Illya as the MC.
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>>25144053
Then the problem lies with Tsukihime itself not the concept of alternate timeline. Since we have stuff like Strange Fake and even fucking Prisma for exploring other stuff.
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>>25144065
>The Gundam franchise
Funny you mention Gundam because /m/ argue about canon just as autistically as TM fandom.
> it's simply different stories. Fiction is just fiction
The reverse is true for the same reason though. That a parallel universe exist doesn't undermine the old stories you like.
Regardless of the scenario, autists gotta be autistic
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>>25144140
>That a parallel universe exist doesn't undermine the old stories you like.
When a parallel universe actively digs up content from another universe and shits all over it, yes it does. Especially when said universe is the one that has been receiving all the attention for years and years.
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>>25144140
Yeah but the /m/ autists don't have the writers' backup, while in the case of TM they're actively trying to make all the stories fit in a single canon with timelines.
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>>25144102
I'm not the one saying there's a problem with timelines, inherently (although I do agree with >>25144065 for the most part. Just fucking write a story, who cares). Timelines are fine. Split timelines are fine.
I'm the one saying, Type-Moon is rectonning out the stuff I used to love so that it can gut it all for parts that they can use to prop up the stuff I don't care about, and that's endlessly frustrating; they can say it's just an alternate timeline now, but what's the fucking point if that alternate timeline existing makes no actual difference to anything? They're just saying things like that to placate people, it's not a statement that has any real meaning behind it, and it's still a retcon, because it's still the way things are now. The future is Fate and nothing else unless it was ripped from a corpse and frankensteined into something unrecognizable that only shares a name so that they can point at it and tell you to clap because it's that thing you know isn't it cool?
I'm more frustrated that they're pretending to care than I am frustrated that they don't care, at this point. I'm content to fade into obscurity, it's seeing Tsukihime's corpse dug up for cheap and meaningless name recognition that bothers me.
I feel like I'm just repeating myself.
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I don't want the remake to come out because most future official or fan content of Ciel will have her budget Mash look.
Imagine a Melty Blood sequel with that design, I just can't accept it.
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>>25144065
Yeah, I think I agree overall, the problem isn't really inherently with universe spam in and of itself, but rather Nasu's implementation, or, rather, his purpose for timeline spam in the first place; i.e. to suit his recycle fetish. Instead of using multiple universes to tell a story about completely different characters in a completely different scenario, he instead uses it so he can repurpose lore and characters, usually with some tweaks here-and-there of varying severity. And that's really what the ultimate problem is with timelines in the Nasuverse, it dredges up old content to suit the new, and in often does so in a manner that is insulting to the old content. And, yes, this has been going on for a very long time. It wasn't good then, and it's not good now.

It's almost certainly increased in the past decade due to the influx of new writers joining TM; it can allow for inconsistencies to be overlooked with, "Well, that's just another weird universe." Probably the most egregious example of that is Strange Fake (though, really, it's mostly Nasu's fault). But on a more cynical note, I really think it's a byproduct of TM being far too afraid to venture into entirely new territory. Everything has to be a remix of something -- getting the same characters and universes, but repackaged. Nothing is allowed to die gracefully, it must be dug up again, again, and again.
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>>25143623
Angel notes was irrelsvnt for 20 years so who cares
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>>25127316
And the fanbook.
https://exhentai.org/g/1697232/8ba79fca1e/
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>>25146481
Nevermind, I got it working (needed to use a newer version). I thought ONScripter's "high resolution scaling" meant using integer scaling to scale the whole game, but that doesn't seem to be the case?
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>>25144392
>Everything has to be a remix of something -- getting the same characters and universes, but repackaged. Nothing is allowed to die gracefully, it must be dug up again, again, and again.

[muffled Dullahan screaming in the distance]
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>>25145854
Cg's look competent enough and if story is actually good too I might even consider buying it. Gotta help artists and writers, after all some of the most popular fate works started as fan projects
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>>25133872
They really are going with the terrible redesign and looks like Takeuchi is doing the lineart. Fuck.
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>>25139898
Why would you care. Casko in FGO is just a fanservice character with a few unvoiced lines.
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>>25140431
Compared to other characters, I think the ratio is pretty good desu.
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>>25143623
>>25143901
>>25144053
>>25144282
These posts pretty much perfectly encapsulate my own feelings on Type Moon as thing currently stand. It's uncanny.
I didn't love the Fate/Tsukihime universe split, and I grew to hate it when it became clear the motive was to enable FGO and other Fate projects to use stuff from Tsukihime and Tsukihime-adjacent material without needing to actually respect it in any way. That combined with "your favorite stuff still exists just in another timeline we will never ever touch again haha" which is just a less honest—and thus much more annoying—version of saying it's been retconned out of canon entirely. Don't blow smoke up my ass in an attempt to keep me as a fan/customer while shitting on the stuff I like, just be honest about it.
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In my honest opinion the way TM does timelines actually does ruin shit for me. You can't just do shit like Fou being a nice guy willing to commit suicide and Emiya breaking mentally because of fucking Kiara and expect me to not let than influence my opinion on the "prime" characters.
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>>25152130
Coming back to the franchise after about a decade away has been a real trip. The urban fantasy w some scifi elements shit I enjoyed seems to have taken a real back seat to space mech nanomachine shitters, aliens (always present but mostly a background thing when I left), and this unbelievably cancerous deterministic timeline pruning quantum order lock crap.
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>>25152216
Franchise has reached a point where ancient alien dysonspheres are introduced and dealt with in 20 minutes just so a character can have her second death

worst thing is he got the idea for all this trash writing extra but somehow decided that it should in fact not be contained to that specific timeline he made to be sci-fi heavy, but apply to every single timeline including Tsukihime
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Good thing that none of your opinions matter at all.
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>>25152404
Don't make me go full Voltaire on you.
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>>25152404
Nasu seems to care enough to state he's mad we don't like fgo in offical interviews.
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All you people ever do is whine about how much you hate FGO, it's been 5 years already
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>>25152640
5 years of FGO and...
No other main works have been made since then.
There is no reality of TM without FGO.
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>>25152488
ヴォルテールも何もどうでもいい。
>>25152551
He is disappointed that a small portion of his fans turned out to be retarded. Still doesn't mean that your opinions matter.
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>>25152709
idk bro that seems to be your opinion rather than that of Nasu, which is the one that actually matters
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>>25152709
Oh look, a real badass coming to finally kill the poor misguided /tmg/.
Well, here is some reading material https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/7876-%E6%98%87%E8%8F%AF%E6%BD%9C%E7%86%B1-%28Latent-Heat-of-Sublimation%29-FGO-Lemon-Hysterical-Screed?highlight=sublimation
And a simple message, you're wasting your time, the autism you are fighting has consumed far too much for any niggerfaggot FGO tertiary like yourself to handle.
Fuck off.
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>>25152404
Do you think FGO players' opinions 'matter' either? You think DW has people lurking /fgog/ to see what the white man thinks of their skinner box, and are prepared to make adjustments accordingly? Nonsense. You're shouting into a void, same as we are. The extent to which your opinions 'matter' to TM is no more and no less than the extent to which ours 'matter' - as tiny integers in a very large spreadsheet. The delusional belief that TM cares about you in any way beyond extracting the maximum amount of google play cards from you at the minimum possibly outlay of effort - is, in my view, far more cringe and retarded than any of the complaints you'll find in /tmg/.
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>>25152807
>posting this meme garbage
lol
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>>25152551
Which interview is that?
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>>25152807
>https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/7876-%E6%98%87%E8%8F%AF%E6%BD%9C%E7%86%B1-%28Latent-Heat-of-Sublimation%29-FGO-Lemon-Hysterical-Screed?highlight=sublimation
The fuck is this?
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>>25153889
Pure, undiluted autism.
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>>25153568
https://www.4gamer.net/games/266/G026651/20181228023/

今,僕の時間の半分は「FGO」に使っています。古くからTYPE-MOONを応援してくれている人達からは「浅い」と言われてしまうんですが,より広い層に楽しんでもらえるように間口を広げた結果として,最初はそう見えるかもしれません。
 ただ,実際のところコアの部分は変わっていなくて,遊び続けてもらえば最後には「今までどおりのTYPE-MOONだ」と思ってもらえるような形を目指して作っています。どうか,最後まで付き合ってください。最初から全力でコアを曝け出していく今までのTYPE-MOONとは感じ方が違うとは思います。でも,根底は同じなんです。
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>tfw I pretend only FSN, Ataraxia and Tsuki exist and I only really care about Mahoyo
I lead a simple life.
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>>25154151
I'm just waiting for the new Case Files. Only Sanda can save us.
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Holy fucking shit, that Dullahan guy is just Hachiman but it's FGO who turned down his confession and bullied him
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>>25152300
Yeah back when I left it was partly bc I had no interest in Extra, though I was fine with it existing as its own thing. Now that everything has become Extra I'm far less sanguine about the whole thing.
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>>25152807
Dullahan put too much effort and pretension into that. I seethe about FGO and Type Moon's direction over the past 5-10 years, but this is a level of seethe only merited by the wanton destruction of something much better than Nasu's work ever was.
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>>25154150
>it will get good I promise guys wait five more years please
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>>25153889
The single best FGO fanfic ever written
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Getting hot here
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>I press the button, and as the numbers whirl and fate is thrown to the wind, my brain expands. This moment, right here, this deprivation of funds in pursuit of worthlessness -
This, is truly art.

Okay, this quote is good.
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>>25156638
Sounds like Cokesakto's drivel.
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>'acknowledging flaws' is meaningless if it doesn't alter the manner of your enjoyment. if all you're going to do is the exact same thing you would have done with no understanding that the work was flawed at all - keep on rolling the gacha, keep on grinding, keep on buying quartz, keep on retweeting the same roll result screens and mirthlessly laughing at the same shitty jokes - then your 'acknowledgement' is utterly vacuous, perfunctory, a formality, an indulgence paid to your conscience so you can keep on doing exactly what you were going to do anyway - and yes, this is 'ironic'

Well, he certainly at least can make a point.
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>>25155599
While Nasu has never made any story which is legendary, I do feel his piece is fully merited if you care about a character of his as much as I do.
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>>25162000
Fair enough. I really don't have a leg to stand on with my "haha look at the guy caring more than me" shit given some of the stuff I care about more than it might merit.
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>Contrarian levels are so high that now people are pretending to hate timelines and that they're one of the reasons why TM is shit now despite the fact that timelines and "every route is canon" has been a fact of TM since day fucking one
C'mon.
There's not liking FGO and then there's this ridiculousness.
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>>25164963
Can't tell if you're trolling or don't get that the majority of people are complaining about the execution and purpose behind the recent timeline splits, not the existence of timelines in general.
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>>25164963
Yes I too enjoy having a universe where everything is star wars ironically except then the sequel comes out and he tries to justify it with actual lore
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>真月譚 月姫
See? Tsukihime anime does exist and Type-Moon acknowledge it.
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>>25154150

Yup, this one makes me want to facepalm so hard that I wanted to throw up. Somewhere along the future, I hope Nasu is like wow I can't believe I did FGO. butt fuck aniplex

>>25152684

I fucking hope when TM leaves FGO, FGO starts to deterrent.

>>25152640

Welcome to the club you're free to leave.

>>25152404


Spoke the words right out of my mouth. >>25153287
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>>25127316
So, the spread in H-scenes.
18x vaginal intercourse
2x labia rub
1x fellatio
1x handie
1x anal
1x thighie

This is not okay.
Like, every character should get good variety so you can explore all of their aspects sexually.
I really wanted some boob and feet action.
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>>25167007
That is out of 20 scenes, so only a handful of scenes have more than one action and therefore base drawing.
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Does Dullahan post here?
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>>25152807

And I thought making my own expressions about FGO, but this, takes it to whole new level like a moon glaring down at you.
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>>25152807

I must be a brainlet because I'm 75% done with what he wrote and I don't see anything that leads me to believe this all amounts to "FUCK FGO".
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>>25168265
That is what the last 25% does.
It takes the themes presented throughout and floods you with all the realizations all at once.
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>>25168125
There have been quite a few posts in the past which match his style almost completely.
Either somebody is taking the piss paraphrasing him, or he has posted here.
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Got back into my initial reading of Tsukihime, got as far as 'this scene' before I took a break.
Really took me by surprise but the more I thought about it the more it made sense given the context clues. What was your initial reaction?
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>>25169926
When Shiki fucks his sister? It was nice, and obvious she is the person he cares about the most. He probably ends up with her in most post-route scenarios.
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blendy13
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>>25178170
What, I don't remember this
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I hope they remove Ciel in the remake.
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>>25178303
Well frick you hecker, Ciel is beautiful
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>>25178303
Wow, I hope they remove YOU from the remake.
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>>25178368
>>25178858
Rude
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>>25178303
Just replace her with Sunao. An easy improvement.
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I don't understand why some people want a new Tsuki anime, it's impossible to do so without compromising too much
At best I'd take some movies
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>>25178858
did arc kissed her ass too ?
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>>25179968
>new Tsuki anime
That's not what people mean when they say Tsukihime remake anon...
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>>25180104
I know you retard I'm complaining about the normalfags that think that Tsuki remake = Anime and post the ''there is no tsukihime anime'' memes despite never having played the VN
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>>25180216
>the normalfags that think that Tsuki remake
Normalfags don't even know Tsukihime exists. Sounds like you're inventing a problem in your head.
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>>25178858
>>25180004
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>>25180216
If you know what a "Tsukihime" is, chances are that you are not a neurotypical.
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Bros, I booted Tsukihime up for the first time in ages just to realize I'm missing 1 CG. Its for Arc, page 3, row 2, first image. Anyone know how to get it?
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>>25181322
You need to see the scene the CG is in.
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>>25178303

5#7,8(8:3 43:@,3

TSUKIHIME REMAKE HALF MOON EDITION TO RELEASE ON NASU'S BIRTHDAY AND THE FULL MOON EDITION WILL BE RELEASED ON ARC BIRTHDAY

CIEL DEISGN IS JUST LIKE THE OG BUT UPDATED IN TERM OF TYPE MOON VN QUALITY BUT SHE DOESN'T LIKE CURRY ANYMORE

ARC LONG SKIRT DESIGN IS IN THE GAME BUT YOU GET TO CHOOSE TO KEEP IT ON OR OFF IT'S MANUAL AND SHE FINDS OUT WHAT BEING FILTHY RICH MEANS SO SHE SPENDS A LOT OF MONEY SHIKI NOW IS A GOLD DIGGER

AKIHA EYEBROWS ARE THICC

HISUI IS NOT A SABER FACE

KOHAKU IS NOT A WITCH GOSHUJINSAMA

SATUSKI HAS A ROUTE AND SHE'S THE ONLY ONE WITH SEX SCENES TOGETHER WITH NOEL AS WELL

AOKO AOZAKI PROLOGUE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SENSE I TEAHC ME A MAGIC TRICK
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>>25183267
I will believe any of this when it happens.
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>>25183267
lol
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>>25183267
>has Mahoyo on taskbar
Now that is what I call based.
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>>25183267
>no battery detected
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>>25183267
>TSUKIHIME REMAKE
>Not Mahoyo II
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>>25183267
Aoko is looking at you and judging you for your post.

Btw, what you said about Ciel's design made me remember this.
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>>25191100
The bangs need to be a bit wider.
And the hair in the back shorter.
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>>25192212
I'm fine with the width of the bangs, although I agree with you about the hair in the back. To make matters more clear, I didn't do this, an anon a few threads ago did it. According to him he tweaked the hair to fix those uncanny bangs on her forehead, no mention to the rest of it. Personally I think it's overall great, I didn't get so offended by the new designs as many did, apart from some big issues with ciel and Arcueid, so this version of her does it for me
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Who the fuck thought this is a good idea?
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>>25198271
>Saber
>a maid
Takeuchi.
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>>25198271
>>25198673
It really was takeuchi, they talk about it in some interview. Nasu said he didn't want to do retarded shit like female Raikou, maid and santa saber, emiya alter and the like but Takeuchi never fucking drops it so he just says yes.
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>>25198673
>>25199526
No, the fact it's a fucking Dragunov.
Something something guns can't be a servant's noble phantasm because it's a weapon for the masses and it doesn't contain enough mystery to it could be called a noble phantasm
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>>25199799
It's a summer servant, so it's a joke. Don't take it too seriously, like Phantasm Moon.
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>>25199799
lol
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>>25198271
Fanservice brings the bucks mate
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>>25183267
I can get over the miniskirt, but I really want the hairvents back, it's my one pet peeve
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>>25199526
Nasu said he didn't want female Raikou but the second he managed to think about how to wank his syncretism and Buddhism boner through Ushi Gozen he was completely onboard with it.
They both are a couple of bakas, Nasu just gets away with it because his stupid is less overt at first glance. People give Takeuchi way too much shit when Nasu is just as bad in his own way.
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>>25202352
This. Arc's deliciously vertical and fluffy hair.
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I really wonder where Reines is going to end up.

Being able to use a bit of true magic at that age with fucked up crest is really something.
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>>25199799
You could have used Billy, Tell or even Kiritsugu but no, you went for the fucking summer servant aka characters from joke events that aren't meant to be taken seriously.
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>>25205773
>joke servant is in fact a joke
of all the things to be mad about the phone game you choose that?
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>>25205021
am I supposed to care with the insane powercreep the franchise has gone through
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>>25205021
>Being able to use a bit of true magic
What? Explain further.
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>>25205936
>insane powercreep
this is false though, ridiculous power level shit is consistent in all TM works
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>>25205969
it really isn't anymore
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>>25183267
I hope the Ccleaner you have there is ironic, that shit is cancer if you let it run free around your pc
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>>25202352
I can't get over the miniskirt, neither the hairvents. Look at Aoko, modern design and the hairvents are still there. One thing I actually liked was the collar, it fits well with the new design.
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>>25167007
That's a travesty.
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>>25207858
Well, I didn't mention the crapton of fingerbanging as foreplay in most scenes, but that's fucking foreplay, even if it results in orgasm.
If I made it I would reduce main routes to 3 to flesh them out much more.
And remove Scat, even if she seems to be far better than her canon version.
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>>25209637
That looks really nice.
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>>25207579
She looks so awful in that image.
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>>25211003
arc never looks awful
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>>25211054
Agreed, but that's not Arc.
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>>25211079
arc is an ideal, we all have our own arc
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>>25209637
I want to BREED Aoko (Sexually.)
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>>25211099
What if my ideal Arc is a blue-haired glass-wearing French executor with an obsession for curry and is called Ciel instead?
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>>25212496
Who? Oh, you mean that new girl that looks like Mash.
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>>25205790
Read the chain of response you idiot. >>25199799 is the one mad about it, not me.
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>>25212563
Yeah. She's my ideal vampire Okita.
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What's the best Nasu novel (I mean real, not visual novel) I can read in English?
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>>25215165
>read in English
I mean you could read KnK's English translation but every bit of it I've seen was hot garbage (there were parts that literally made up shit) and I'd suggest you don't waste your time.
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Kinda weird how none of the Type-Moon novels are licensed in english (irrc). I think only the first chapter of Kara no Kyoukai was released as part of an anthology or something.
With how popular Fate is, its kinda surprising than not even Fate/Zero the LN is licensed.
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>>25215433
Woah I can't believe some japs are missing out on some quick western bux!
Surely this can't be the first time...
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>>25152088
>I didn't love the Fate/Tsukihime universe split
excuse my newfaggotry since i only read tsukihime and FSN for the first time this year, but what exactly do you mean by that? because i initially suspected they both took place in the same world but besides concepts like church assassins and mages association and a throwaway reference to dead apostles in stay night i didnt notice anything that confirmed what i suspected, so i just figured they were 2 different universes and the writers simply reused some concepts they liked.
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>>25205936
Only in FGO. It never spilled anywhere else.
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>>25218169
They used to be in the same universe until nasu changed his mind after FGO's success.
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>>25219613
Because nothing except FGO releases. and their shitty lore extends to everything else, even Tsukihime
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>>25218169
They used to be the same world but I think he started changing his mind as early as 2005 because it makes no sense so they were simply parallel worlds, like how KnK and Tsukihime are also parallel worlds to each other because they deal with similiar shit and it makes no sense otherwise

What he has done in recent years though is establish that there are "Tsukihime core worlds" and "Fate core worlds" in his multiverse and that they have different rules in some regards and things that are possible in them, which actually goes against lore he used to talk (and sell in material books) up to at least 2008, one of his writers even called him out on it and Nasu just went "that doesn't count anymore"
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>>25219927
>>25219762
i see, thanks for the explanation
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>>25139246
I love them
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>>25220963
Bazzet was pretty arrogant for someone literally cheating.
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>>25222465
how so ? I don't remember that at all
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>>25222465
She just wanted to live out her childhood dream with her favorite irish hero bro. It's not fair that some creepy priest decided to fuck shit up.
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>>25209637

“That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.”

Ohhhh yeah, from now whenever I think of bunny day, I think of this from now on.
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Which HF-1 subs are decent? I don't like both official ones and daraku's very much desu
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I'm starting to understand when people say nasu is a hack lol
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>>25241131
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>>25241194
I'm glad I waited so long.
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>>25241131
bro I haven't even played the game why would I translate unoffical mats
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>>25242917
why did you assume he was talking to you specifically lol?
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>>25245974
because this thread has like 3 people that can actually read japanese
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>>25245974
The argument applies generally doesn't it?
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>>25246042
I'm talking to anybody who comes across it.
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>>25261963
In fact, there should be a board called /autism/ and any topic on any board which goes out of control or is absurdly active should be sent there and there alone forever.
I'm really pissed off that the mods are taking the easy way out by leaving the current boards to rot as the containment board.
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>>25261963
Fucking gacha is killing smaller generals on /vg/, and hiro does this fucking shit. Fuck him and fuck this website.
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Okay, who the fuck reported my post?
Or was it a passing janny who came upon it?
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>>25262704
Or is it a conspiracy that is filtering against any dissent?
Honestly who even cares now.
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>>25262704
what was your post?
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>>25262878
https://arch.b4k.co/jp/thread/25118534/#q25261963
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>>25263449
weirdly enough, only now it disappeared to me. That's why I was confused
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>>25215433
Funny enough Zero is licensed in at least Spanish and Russian.
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>>25267086
at least french and portuguese as well
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>>25152300
The Extraverse infuriates me.
Its premise has a good germ in there, but it's buried under a mountain of recycling and an abysmal cyber-setting. They should've delved more into the irl post-apocalyptic scenario where a few hegemonies control the earth and the rest of the planet is a wasteland of infighting and poverty.
The actual time spent in the matrix would've been meaningful with a little more context, and they shouldnt've have wasted it on a cyberschool setting.
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https://twitter.com/Fate_SN_Anime/status/1292068044244545537
HF3 new CM, like it's just 15s but still fucking hyped
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>>25283622
Is that Shirou projecting something near the end of the trailer? Looks flashier than expected though.
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>>25283622
>https://twitter.com/Fate_SN_Anime/status/1292068044244545537
Say what you want, this sure looks pretty
that foot stomp
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>>25283622
Zolgen and Nagato in the CM right?

>>25284711
>spoiler
I absolutely love it please release the BD soon i beg you TM ufotable Aniplex
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>>25283622
Pretty good
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>>25286885
>the Emiya household fanservice is lacking the SOUL F/SN has.
They're litereally the exact same, anon.
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>>25286885
100%
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>>25205936
>The Franchise
Anon, one of the first entries had continent destroying super-aliens. The first VN had a vampire ancestor that at her prime could remove mountains and was stronger than any god, and her game sequel had her throwing around a moon at people. Prototype had a lot of city-killing shit, and F/SN had Angry Manjew, who would kill all of humanity if awakened, but at the same time it wasn't considered an ultimate threat for Alaya.
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>>25285274
>Zolgen and Nagato in the CM right?
This is the first thing that came to my mind too, and Justeaze/Zolgen/Nagato were featured in one of the poster. On the second thought, it might be Zelretch and Nagato (something something about the Jewel Sword)
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>>25205021
>Being able to use a bit of true magic
This doesn't work like that...
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>>25290392
Not that anon, but isn't the Jewel Sword "a bit of true magic"? Not that I know what the context in Case Files is.
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>>25289705
> Angry Manjew, who would kill all of humanity if awakened
It's funny because the "sequel" of that game had him says there existe to entity better than him at that, which is a pretty huge pwercreep. But you're overall correct, it's pretty much FGO and cases like Gil who regularly gets buffed when he appear to keep up with the new shit.
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>>25290439
It's a Mystic Code, it's a artifact imbued with true magic, you don't wield the magic directly. Alice's Snark is apparently something born of the First Magic but that doesn't mean Alice can use True Magic. You're can't be born with TM unless you're something like Manaka and you can't learn it : you can only reproduce it by crating a new system that imiates it, but then that becomes magecraft, and if develop enough to be widespread and indistinguishable from the original the original would also lose it's status as true magic : it's the very basis of TM/magecraft
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>>25283622

God this better come out on BD sooner than the last movie.
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>>25289705
All of the shit you listed is below throaway FGO villains
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I would love to see the Tsukihime remake released and survive in the current landscape
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Fuck, that short HFIII trailer actually gave me shivers.
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Watching Fate Apocrypha again, this time with a bud so I can finish it. It's got a lot of problems, the initial pitch of having two sides with fourteen servants really doesn't pan out and fails on delivering because hardly anyone develops or relates to each other on the way that FSN or Zero did. I started reading strange/fake recently, too. After the first couple volumes the visceral action and weird pitch of 'ooh Jack the Ripper is a shapeshifter and no one knows what he really looks like,' 'Rider is sickness and puts people into this girl's dream world,' I'm still interested but I'm concerned about whether it actually pans out and gets interesting in regards to the relations between the servants and the masters. The whole relationship aspect is what I really want and care about, I think it's the most interesting thing about Fate.
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Be honest, /tmg/, where do you expecting him to rank among Type Moon's antagonists?
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Can Masters summon their Servants outside of Fuyuki/Japan? I know that it's possible for a Master to get their Command Spells while they're outside of Japan, but what about a Servant?
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>>25296220
>that stomp
The wait is killing me
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That scenes of Rin wielding the Jeweled Sword is really pretty
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>>25298646
Bottom quarter, ESL-kun.
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>>25298646
>5 years into his game
>Doesn't even have an ingame sprite yet, only appears in spinoffs and anime adaptions you are expected to consume to understand the plot that once again isn't in his game
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>>25298646
looks like a fag and his motivation/plan is just gonna be some dumbass 'muh humanity' 'muh progress' 'muh stagnation' bullshit, in response to which $playername will spam damage numbers at his JRPG final boss form until he dies. in conclusion - about on par with Twice
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>>25300222
I wonder who is behind this post
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>>25300961
Only me.
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>>25120014
>mobile game containment board
Well, we did end up getting one.
And it changed nothing. Instead there's now FGO threads on both /vg/ and the new boards.
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>>25297444
>The whole relationship aspect is what I really want and care about, I think it's the most interesting thing about Fate.

FUUUUCK YEAH one of the things I liked about FSN.
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>>25302694
I did mention that here >>25263449
Mobile game posting had to be banned from all other boards for it to make any sense.
Instead the RPG board seems to be more active since why should gachafags move?
Lazy mods and crybaby jannys are the problem.
Also yet another reminder that 2hu should be banned from everywhere but /jp/.
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What's the over/under on how high the musashi wank gets eh
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Any links to Melty Blood ReAct Final Tuned + Act Cadenza + Actress Again that don't require burning shit to a CD? Like already patched?
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>>25310675
>I don't know how to mount an iso/cdd/etc file
not gonna make it
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Ok, aside from ending, Apocrypha wasn't that bad
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>>25311712
I remember having problems setting up FSN and re-reading the steps slowly but now there are links to the VN already cracked and ready to run. Was wondering if someone had done that with Melty.
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Don't mind me. Just posting best protagonist.
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>spear fighter with divine protection from an epic poem about a war whose motivations are to have good fights
Why would you put Karna and Achilles on the same team
Goddamn the more I think of Apocrypha the more annoyed I get
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Which nasuverse story, game or whatever would you guys suggest for someone who is most interested in the wider world of the setting?
How magecraft works, the different organizations, mages, vampires and the church, that type of thing.
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>>25319108
Case Files.
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>>25319108
Mahoyo for fundamentals, then go for the side novels.
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>>25319138

>>25319260

Cheers buds
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>>25291181
I have a feeling they're going to time the release with next spring.
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https://twitter.com/KaroshiMyriad/status/1292740026309074946

Say hello to Takeuchi's latest masterpiece.
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>>25326384
nobody cares
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dead company
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>>25302827
good god that face
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>>25326384
Honestly this looks pretty mehish, just another cash grab servant with Saber as its base.
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>>25329127
No shit.
That was always the implication.
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>>25326384
Nice tracing
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>>25329461
A trace a year keeps the goyim in fear.
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>>25326384
How is that outfit even remotely from Arthur's time
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>>25330169
yeah, its really jarring
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NASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>25331983
By the way, does anyone know when exactly Shirou supposedly says "alarm clocks are degenerate" in the VN? I want to see what the Japanese text actually says there.
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>>25326384
no
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>>25330169
What kind of complaint is that? Which servants in the Fate VN wore clothes from their time?
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>>25332265
>Saber
Plate armor is pretty reasonable.
>Archer
Nigga's outfit is fashionable as fuck no matter the age (obviously not relevant here)
>Lancer
They probably didn't have blue bodysuits in those days so definitely out of place.
>Rider
Yeah, nobody was wearing that shit back in ancient Greece.
>Caster
Nice looking robes makes sense for nobility.
>Berserker
Can you even call that an outfit?
>True Assassin
Is this even an outfit?
>Fake Assassin
Pretty standard samurai shit.
>Gilgamesh
They didn't have plate armor in mesopotamia so this one is clearly out of place.

3/9 being wrong isn't too bad.
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>>25332534
During the rough time Arthurian legend is set, they would be using chain mail, scale mail or segmented plates.
Plate wasn't around for another 800 years.
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>>25332534
The bodysuit is a stand in for nudity and body paint
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>>25332837
Ancient rome had plate armor. It would have been a luxury and not standard issue, but certain a king could have worn it.
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>>25332007
Its not long after one day II starts
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>>25330169
>>25332534
The point isn't to have historically/era-accurate clothes and outfits, it's for them to be representative of the character's traits and history.
As >>25332866 says Lancer's bodysuit is woad paint. Rider's supposed to be serpentine and monstrous, so she wears a dress that shows off most of her body while she gets into powerful poses that wouldn't be normal for humans.

I think the real question is 'what is Caster Artoria's costume representative of?' and we answer it by looking at the aesthetic, drawing comparisons, and interpreting it from there.
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>>25332866
Headcanon. Takeuchi confirmed in some mat that it is just a reference to some manga.
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>>25332534
``plate armor'' not to mention it has that Japanese-esque layering of the skirt armor and gauntlets. At least there was armor though, although I don't think plate armor was from that time.
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>>25332932
There were breastplates and plated greaves and pauldrons, but that does not plate armour make.
Having all the proper undersuitage is vital to full plate along with the finer metallurgy to make strong plates lighter and thinner.
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>>25333035
The boots are full on 14th century at the earliest.
Even steel cuirasses were late 13th.
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>>25333035
>>25333098
It actually being steel is clearly impossible. That word is definitely used in the VN so I'll concede Saber here.
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>>25332975
>gets into powerful poses
I'm really feeling the power rn.
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>>25326384
It's all the same.
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>>25332978
That's interesting, what manga?
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>>25333206
I know you're being facetious but you posted a good example there and one of the ones I was thinking about, when she gets in an all-fours position and is able to get a greater speed and power boost from this animalistic pose, while her long hair is on the ground or flying around behind her, it's more monstrous than human, which is the point because she's a gorgon.
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>>25333189
Steel did exist earlier, but they didn't know the distinction nor how they could specifically alter properties until much later.
I'm pretty sure the Arabs figured out steel production first, with their imba wootz ingots.
The Chinese around the Warring States but possibly earlier had Chromium steel swords thanks to their ore source.
Swords from that era are well preserved today.
there is a 7th century BC sword from Israel which is iron hardened into steel.
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This i a new low in complaints about Nu-TM.
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>>25333330
There was no steel in Europe until the middle ages though
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Are you guys serious? Are you seriously comparing Saber's armor to Caster's 21th century fashionable outfit? Holy fucking shit, am I on /fgo/ or what. She has fucking boots with high heels ffs
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>>25333320
>I know you're being facetious
No, I was being serious. I feel the power from that pose. The power that compelled men to rape her, the power that made men hard as stone.
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>>25333425
I'm not, I'm asking what it means and what it's representative of, that's where the real depth is.
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>>25333425
Who said that Caster's outfit is reasonable?
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>>25333425
I'm sorry, do you think this looks like an 6th century or even a 14th century dress?
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>>25333577
yes
I'm not asking for realism or history accuracy, even if that dress isn't actually accurate it overall fits. Andf if you can't see the difference between that dress and Caster's outfit you really are just a fgo troll.
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>>25330169
>>25330611
>>25333285
You just hate the short skirt-tights-boots combo, don't you?
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>>25332969
>one day II
That's the second day right? It doesn't say anything about alarm clocks here.
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>>25333708
Looks more like a belt.
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>>25333708
I like it, just not on a character that already had an outfit design or on character from the middle ages.
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>>25333810
Should be after this.
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>>25333366
Exactly.
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>>25333880
Yeah what I posted was right after that scene. Okay so unfortunately my suspicion was confirmed: shit translation. That explains why I didn't remember a line like that when I did a reread of F/SN in nip.
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>>25333944
Well unless the line in question was taken out of Realta Nua for some reason I guess. I didn't check the original release.
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>>25333944
The line was commented out in realta nua as pic related shows. The english translation is accurate, here's what it says extracted from the script. I don't know why Nasu would start being George Lucas here.

 時刻は五時半。[lr]
 どんなに夜更かしをしても、この時間に起きるのが自分の長所だ。昨日のような失態を犯すこともあるが、おおむね自分は早起きである。
;[lr]
; 目覚まし時計はなんとなく堕落している気がするので子供の頃から使っていない。
@pg
*page15|
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>>25334752
That's fucking weird. Nasu still left this in RN for instance.
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>I'm back and blacker than ever
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>>25335281
>semi-casual
More like full homo amirite
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>>25334854
That leads to Rin bullying him about telling Mitsuzuri what he said.
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>>25335281
Not blacker than EVER but pretty black.
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>>25335475
That says "summer", not "semi"
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>>25335666
Just got exposed. Damn.
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>>25335510
Man, the Tsukihime manga was great, but they should have had Takeuchi do the original concept art for Emiya Alter.
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>>25336690
Did you see Caster Artoria?
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>>25333708
This also ranks among Takeuchi's crimes
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>>25335281
Why does he wear glasses if Archers are supposed to have good eyesight?
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>>25338539
Magic reinforced glass to enhance EYESIGHT
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>>25335281
I don't know why the wifebeater bothers me so much.
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When you think about it, UBW doesn't make much sens when you're shown how scarce the instances are where Counter Force decides to act.
Yet UBW has thousands of weapons from many different erad. That would mean the Counter Force had to have had a reason to act in all of those cases and decided to summon Archer specifically. Even if you admit the CF may have summoned him more often than others as a kind of repayment to allow him to act on his ideals and taking into account he probably copied most of his shit from Gilgamesh it still leaves a truckload of weapons, and so summons, to explain.
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>>25339613
There's an infinite amount of worlds to be summoned into.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGepNnFXd3c
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>>25341751
It's soulless overproduced garbage.
It's literally a clapping simulator.
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>>25343009
the video really gives me the ''watches kyoanime once'' sort of vibe
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>>25298646
He's gonna suck. My only hope is that Olga big bad turns out decent in the end. But it's FGO so it most likely will suck.
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>>25341751
>"Thank you" to all Masters
I don't understand how I managed not to puke
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>>25343601
That was next level.
The closes they have gone yet to blatantly thanking people for gambling.
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>>25290392
It was Magic. Two lords of CT agree. The thing is she's not able to do it 100% by herself yet. But she's like 14.
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>>25343621
FGO has a much smaller player base that other top mobage yet makes more money. They really have autistic turbo whales to thank for this bullshit.
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>>25341751
>5 years of this shit
Why did they rip off of Disneyworld by the way?
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Is Heaven's Feel III really coming in 3 days? It feels so unreal.
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>>25343601

Oh thank god I wasn't the only one thinking like this.

I was like in my head LMAO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR MONEY
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>>25119679
Yikes.
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>>25139898
Biggest reason why I fucking hate FGO.
They even makes fucking VOID SHIKI falling in love with the shit self-insert.
"M-muh parallel timeline" cheap reason.
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>>25153287
Based
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>>25338539
glasses are sexy on brown men with white hair
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>>25341751
lmao
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>>25334752
I'm pretty sure the TL just went for the most literal and obvious translation of 堕落
>https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/堕落
>2 物事がその本来あるべき正しい姿や価値を失うこと
So yeah, degenerate isn't accurate in this context, it's more of saying the clock is old, worn out etc.
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>>25353364
And you think Shirou wouldn't try to make the most of it or at least get a new one if so?
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>>25353837
Well, the text has him saying he hasn't used since he's a kid because he found it suspect. But in that scene, he's actually using it anyway, so regardless of whether you subscribe to it being degenerate or being worn out, it still doesn't really make sense and Nasu gotta Nasu.
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>>25353956
>But in that scene, he's actually using it anyway
No, the scene is about how he relies on his biological clock. Even Japan makes fun of how he uses an alarm clock in the HF movies.
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>>25334752
>>25353364
>>25353956
No, he's saying he hasn't used an alarm clock since he's a kid because he associates (its usage) with being slovenly. So yeah, "alarm clocks being degenerate" isn't accurate but neither is old/worn out.
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>>25353364
>it's more of saying the clock is old, worn out etc.
No, definitely not.

>>25354218
Well strictly speaking, "alarm clocks are degenerate" isn't technically wrong, it's just a really funny word choice that an ESL would make. "slovenly" is definitely a more natural word to use.
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>>25354422
ESL here, can you really use slovenly for objects?
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>>25358586
It's not the object itself but rather the use of it that's slovenly.
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>>25354422
I don't know, degenerate seems like a perfectly good option to me. It gets at the underlying mindset and is an odd but potentially interesting parallel to the actual fallen state of the type-moon universe.
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>>25358631
Oh okay, thought you meant it as "worn out' like >>25353364 said
ESL gotta ESl
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>>25358891
It's a connotation difference. 堕落 is, of course, bad, but to me it doesn't read nearly as strongly as "degenerate" does. Of course, I'm by no means a Japanese expert so maybe I'm totally wrong.
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>>25359040
Right, if there's an issue its definitely a matter of strength. 'Degenerate' is definitely erring on the high side. I think its fine and even if its off if the worse translations in FSN were at this level we'd be looking at an actual serious academic translation. The one thing that does make me reconsider that is that it became memetic because that's always a heuristic clue that maybe something is off (but it could just be that Shirou is legitimately fucking weird)
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/tmg/, you should participate >>>/a/207150835 !!
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>https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/8756-Fate-Misty-Lament?p=3080048
I posted this a while back because it looked cool and some anons complained that they wouldn't pay for fanfiction, well, funnily enough, the OP started dumping it for free after all, might as well check it out
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>>25350569
Elaborate.
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Hey guys Do you know IKIRI SABATAROU ?
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KIRI SABATAROU is Japanese meme.
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I did a sweep of all the likely places, it does not seem to be the gook.



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