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Do whiteys really?
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Unironically yes. In German we have an eco tax on children, only Germans tho.
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>motherfather to a furbaby
I've seen them use these terms unironically.
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If I ever get a wife I'm having as many children as possible. My pension will most likely be so small it wouldn't be enough to live by. Most people don't seem to get this with the fuck up demographics. Most people will live their elder years in poverty
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>>142710645
the move is to have tons of children so they take care of you when you're old
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>>142710645
>Most people will live their elder years in poverty
And there won't be a welfare state to take care of you
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>>142710391
>In German we have an eco tax on children, only Germans tho.
>Meanwhile in Russia, state pays you to have baby.
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>>142710674
Exactly
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>>142710694
>Meanwhile in Russia, state pays you to have baby.
That's the case everywhere including Germany. The government is trying everything their can to make people have more children since the demographics are fucked up. That's why I dont buy the whole meme about white genocide. Because we don't have to have children we need to bring in immigrants
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>>142710733
The Danes had a program to stimulate families and making of little Viking babies. Hungary is doing the job better
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>>142710368
We’ll Africa and asia are 75% of global population. 2025 generation alpha will be 2 billion (25% of global population).
With us aging, safe to say over 90%+ of babies will be in asia or Africa .

Much of western births will have good chunk of non white and mixed

If they wanna be gay it’s fine it’s their culture keep it there. They claim not to like culture from latam Islam Africa or Asia , they should keep to themselves

If easterners like young girls and dont approves gays or promiscuity fine leave it be. And same time let them drink smoke sleep around etc

Mind your own businesses
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>>142710833
Hungary has a fertility rate of 1.5 theyre not doing a good job
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>>142710833
Likely muslims making most of it

Danes already feel comfortable with their welfare and just don’t see value in some freebies
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>>142710867
Pretty much
If the tensions in France I’m surprised french born muslims haven’t up and left for Hungary ,
Such a mass exodus would cause mass protest to end free movement lol
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>>142710867
And I would like to add that eastern europe has even more fucked demographics due to emigration
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>>142710867
wasn't it only Ireland and Poland, the two European cunts above replacement 2.1 for decades?
Ireland is woke now so rip
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I won't have children and everyone can go to heck
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>>142710931
poland has very low fertility rate. Eastern europe isnt "trad" at all when it comes to having children
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I want white babies to feed and care. Although I'm unable to bear my own, at least my dreams will be realized. It's better than having pets here living alone. But I wonder is there any white couples that would give away their kids. (Because I read that there's a very high chance the white babies have been aborted, which is sad).
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>>142710975
Love how Sweden is a rich green yet there's only 10 million
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>>142710368
My biggest dream is to be a dad
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>>142711021
>there's only 10 million
There were only 9 million 10 years ago. Their population is increasing at a fast rate
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>>142710975
No they just stay slim and want to marry for money and not work
But they’ll fuck like every other white girl

Out of all European girls, who holds their virginity the longest?
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>>142711055
Somalis have 10 kids per family
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>>142710694
>Meanwhile in Russia, state pays you to have baby.
And it doesn't work, no sane person wants to have babies in this shithole so only chechens and other retards breed.
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>>142711099
>retards breed.
Natural selection is disabled now?
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>>142711055
I read child brides are legal in Sverige now too
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>>142710368
Good
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>>142710645
>Most people will live their elder years in poverty
Not a problem here
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>>142711143
loved this old lad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcOS4q0RD-w
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>>142710694
That’s not even usual, you get tax credits for having children in the US.
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>>142711083
>Out of all European girls, who holds their virginity the longest?
Anyone who is into any religions sect. Not mainstrem religion. We have these leastedians up in the north western finland. They have even higher fertility than rate big cities with immigrants in them
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>>142711223
Islam is a mainstream religion Ukko.
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>>142711121
>muh biological imperative
>muh propagation of species
Giving birth in this frozen shithole into misery and abject poverty is human rights violation.

Or you took offense to my use of word retard?
Raked
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>>142711357
There's hardly any muslims in the dark blue areas
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>>142710368
I'm an upper middle class Anglo-Canadian.
Yes I am not having kids, I will graduate at 25 and would rather travel around to different parts of the world with my partner doing hobbies than have a kid.
I think if you're a good parent, which I would be, having a kid is moral.
But honestly I would rather have free time and travel. Then teach kids later in life for fulfillment in passing on knowledge.
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>>142711389
Just saying generally, Islam is doing something better than us, they're technically the most right, (spiritual) group today
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>>142711381
That is roughly 1 in 2000 men. Is alcoholism and poverty the culprit? Culture? Not addressing mental health? All of these?
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>>142710368
If I could find a girl I was truly in love with, I'd want us to have a truckload of children. At least three. I think the problem for birth rates in the developed world is more social than economic. We've seen countries all but totally foot the bill for children, yet people middle class and up aren't even making the rate of replacing themselves.
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>>142711381
I read Lithuania was way above the rest of Europe with male suicide
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>>142711381
Why are bitches offing themselves in China, where they are rare and can have any Chad they want?
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>>142711381
Stay depress drink more and get more tard if you like

Life is struggle and that’s ok
We are meant to be tough n resilient
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>>142711639
>>142711381
and to be fair, suicide stats mean male suicides
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>>142711223
Wow thought it be rural Samis that are the baby makers
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>>142711810
Sami are not Finno Ugric. They're proper Asian
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>>142711703
Because China hasn't been able to produce any chads for centuries. Imagine you're a woman andna highly desired one at that, but all your suitors are the same skinnyfat dude, just with varying names, net worths, and personalities.

You'd off yourself too.
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>>142711810
Samis are like 15k people. No matter how many children they would make it wouldnt really show up in statistics. Lapland has a population of 180k theyre a tiny minority there. Probably more immigrants in Rovaniemi alone than the whole sami population lmao
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>>142710733
>Because we don't have to have children we need to bring in immigrants
What kind of logic is that? The correct logic is: Because you don't have to have children you need to SUFFER
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Having kids is an egoistical act and I am not talking about "muh climate" or some shit. I am more talking in the original antinatalist sense.
We should unironically sterilize people who dont want to stop reproducing and put heavy sanctions on nations who have a rapid population growth if they dont implement a one child policy
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>>142711099
Why you bash your country so much, you have almost infinite land to settle. If cold worries you so much, why don't you build your dacha underground like old slavs.
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>>142712108
Look at this fucking atheist. You are the main problem Europe has.
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>>142712094
>What kind of logic is that?
Think about muh gdp. Like sweden is doing great gdp wise their economy keeps on grownig.
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>>142712143
What will happen if (may Allah forgive me for uttering these words) muh GDP stops growing?
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>>142711381
You can't suffer in russia, with the hot girls you should be making some small dimitris instead of whinning in this imageboard
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>>142710368
Brown people should follow ASAP if they don't want to ruin the planet completely and starve in the future. Increasing population is bad. I only want more white children to stop ethnic replacement
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>>142712179
It doesnt affect the rich people who advocate immigration
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>>142712141
It's using Jew terminology with egotist and antenatal
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>>142712197
based Chile weighing in with based takes as always
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>>142712108
>2-3bn people live by having many kids and supporting within the family group because their state gives nothing and the climate is harsh
>hurrr lets restrict them to one child
you've just caused the greatest amount of human suffering in history
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>>142712220
Why do people think in the terms of “entire planet”. I believe Belarus has enough resources for some other 10 million Belarusian children. I don't care about the rest of the planet.
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>>142711055
It's only increasing because of immigration
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>>142712220
Wait, nevermind, I misread your post.
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>>142712197
Heard about the 'third wave' down there brother
Acquire vitamin D and K2 supplements if you can
God Bless
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>>142711055
I tell you it isn't ethnic swedes who are making babies let alone europeans
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>>142712411
Good man
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>>142712220
>m-muh ethnic replacement
Fuck off, maybe be less of a pathetic cretin so your women stop fucking black guys
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>>142712286
Russian crybabys can't suffer

>>142712506
The brazilian strain of the virus arrived here, and vaccines seem to be bullshit. Fortunatelly i never put that shit and have a lot of supplies. Also i have relatives who live in the countryside and i don't live in that infernal shithole called Santiago.
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>>142712411
Western people consume far too much and browns are too many for it to be sustainable in the long run. There is no reason to fill a country to the max with people. It will only ruin ecosystems and make us more sensitive to drought and other extreme weather when we are already feeding as many as we can. Why would you want to live in a country made up of only farmland and cities?
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>>142712628
I have a swedish gf but I can't stop others or stop the massive immigration
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>>142712378
and you can't see where that is heading?
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>>142712628
Daily reminder that Swedes have the full right to prohibit any people from entering their country: be they blacks, browsn, redheads or one-eyed people. And they should.
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>>142712378
You will destroy your own countries the way it's going and pour into western nations
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>>142712649
Authentic lad
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My sister had this attitude before she had her baby. And now she loves it. Constantly taking pictures and sending them to me. Humans are made to love their own children and there's nothing wrong with it.
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>>142712411
>Why do people think in the terms of “entire planet”
Because every action has consequences
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_eekBucwpk
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>>142710733
bruh europe is grossly overpopulated like the rest of the world. If there's one thing we don't need it's more people.
Austria today has as many people as Britain had in 1800...
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>>142713314
Still a great tune if third position
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>>142710368
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>>142713490
Europeans were 28% of the world population in 1930
it's 10% now but that's because growth from Asia, south Asia and Africa
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>>142710733
>The government is trying everything their can to make people have more children since the demographics are fucked up
Except address the issues causing people to have less kids. If we really are overpopulated, then an aging population will address that. We don't need to import more foreigners to inflate the younger populations because infinite growth is unsustainable. Age and population will fluctuate and that's okay, but if you lose your identity and culture you lose everything.
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>>142712378
>Africa people be like
>"Haha our nation is full of violence, hunger, aids, poverty and other shit lets have 10 kids so we can support ourselves"
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>>142710645
What's your ethnic background?
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>>142712571
The highest fertility rates are found where there are very few immigrants. Not that it's gonna make a difference, but whatever.
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>>142710368
Don't have a kid if you don't want to, but I'm sickened by all this Westerners hating children but getting a dog and calling it their baby and dressing the animal up in clothes. It's mental illness
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>>142710733
>>142712143
Oh, it was mulatti
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>>142712143
GDP per capita isn't growing much. This is because while actual Swedes are getting more productive, the efforts are eaten up in the statistics by a growing segment of useless foreigners.
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>>142710645
>My pension
You won’t have any if you’re under 30 because that system will have collapsed by then
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>>142712772
What's more, we have the right to kill them if they refuse to leave. ;)
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>>142716479
Do you think this makes you one of us?
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>>142716726
What?
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>>142716799
why do you think youre one of us?
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>>142716946
Your question doesn’t make sense and I’m thinking you’re in dire need of schizo medication
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>>142717071
where are you from, niggety nog?
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>>142717215
Länsi-Suomesta, like the rest of my family for as long as the records go.

Nyt sitten Veeti ne lääkkeet.
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>>142717740
Your parents burned their papers after getting off the boat? True parasites
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>>142711198
holyshit i wish i never live this long
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>>142710368
>child-free
what an amazing life philosophy, definitely something we should pass on to future generations
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>>142710733
>Because we don't have to have children we need to bring in immigrants
True, but bringing in migrants is also easier than convincing whitoid femoids to have more children.

We all know the only long term solution, but bringing in more migrants is more politically acceptable.
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>>142711703
>Why are bitches offing themselves in China
No feminism. Also notice the extent to which you're simping: the only country that doesn't have a massive gender gap except for Pakistan, and somehow that's a problem.

If anything, China has true gender equality: women and men consider life insufferable in roughly equal measure.
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>>142717740
Toi skitso näkee neekereitä ja mulatteja joka puolella. Parempi vaan ignorata se
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why anyone who isn't grossly rich would willingly have children is beyond me
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>>142718932
Tell me are you such an embarrassing newfag you've never seen the nigger or are you him?
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>>142716341
Lopeta
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>>142718969
Washing your rancid cunt seems to be beyond you
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>>142718969
And here we have one of the many problems causing the decline in white fertility rates: the pension system has turned reproduction into a prisoner's dilemma.
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>>142710975
I can tell you we rare more "trad" on average than native pop to the West, just less resources and housing shortage. To add to that our demographic problems started decades later than in the West.
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>>142719434
> just less resources and housing shortage
It has nothing to do with that. I really dont get the cope we cannot afford to raise children while the niggas in africa can in literal poverty. How cannot you do that in one of the richest countries on earth? It's most people are just comfort seeking. Like you don't even have to pay for your children education like in the US. There's literally no excuse for not having children other than you cannot afford all the gadgets and gimmicks you want to or travel the world. People just have become too selfsentered
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>>142719625
And on top of that in the west it's usually the immigrant familites who have more children and they tend to be much poorer than the native population. Somehow they can raise children but wealthier natives cannot?
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>>142719657
It's a mindset thing:
1. Their culture views children as a sign of wealth (which is the norm in pre-pension cultures)
2. They tend to be more religious than the natives, especially the Muslims, which is also a factor that strongly correlates with increased fertility rates
3. Their women have less rights, even when they're legally equal in the eyes of the law of the host country at home they're very much restrained to the domestic sphere. Not much else to do but have children.

These three factors are the keys to the kingdom. If you really want to boost those white fertility rates, you know what to do. But again: that's too controversial, much better to import people from the cultures that already did the aforementioned three while at the same time condemning them for the aforementioned three. The West is at this point effectively vampiric.
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>>142711525
Russia is in general a country with terrible prospects. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. The rich have enough power that the poor can't do anything about it. Combine that with rampant alcoholism, a continent next door that does way better but hates your guts (which you hate too, and are jealous of at the same time)
I don't know if the law went through, but if it was, the retirement age is now higher than the average life expectancy for me in Russia
If you're not going to see retirement, always have to fight to barely eke out an existence, alcohol nearby at all times, I'd off myself too
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>>142712108
life fundamentally wants to be born, the ones that dont turn into miscarriages or cell apoptosis or what have you

it's not your parents who made you multiply into 26 trillion times your original cell count, it was all you
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>>142710368
Combine that with faggotry and racemixing, white people will be extinct by the end of this century.
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>>142710975
I'll give European women some NUTS.
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>>142719625
It just means 3rd world countries have extremely low standards and they cannot measure up risks.

We are extremely dependent on outer factors like what will you inherit from your family, how much gib will the actual government give you or what if you or your partner will lose your job, but you must still pay the loans. Not talking about the poor financial education.
People won't have 3 or more children if they can't spare any money. It makes sense that if you can't maintain a financial independence, you won't take avoidable risks.

High standards can't be simplified to be plainly selfishness and comfort. What's the meaning of raising up children if you can't guarantee them that their life will be at least as good as yours. People supposed to not give a fuck on such a high level concept as nation or whatever. If people reproduce in sake of their nation, not in sake of their own family, that means your are living at the wrong place. Social constructs are for us, and not vice versa.
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>>142723741
If Canadians don't need your ugly nut, I assume that not even Euro chicks gonna claim it.
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It’s just about money. Raising children with salary around 400$ with rent around 150-180$. Everything costs money, and small kid cost like half of plane, education, medicine and other stuff.
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>>142710368
Based.

Just thinking about either you have to have a child or not makes you one step above animals.

Being a parent is not an obligation or responsibility, it's a free choise. If it's not you are basically a fucking drone.
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>>142710674
>>142710645
RETVRN TO TRADITION
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>>142710674
That's a third world mindset. Expansion of poverty and suffering. Only 80IQ people think it's a smart move nowadays.
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>>142710368
>dog
every single fucking time kek
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>>142713982
>because infinite growth is unsustainable
I agree completely but we're living in a neo-liberal world now, the only thing world leaders care about is "we have to keep the growth going" because our societies are built to depend on it. If we ever stop growing the economy something will break, and I'm honestly pessimistic about it. I'm guessing we will reach some sort of world war for resources after a certain threshold.
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>>142710391
What the fuck, seriously?
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>>142719657
Immigrant families show why big families are difficult in modern Western society. They live in tiny apartments and the adolescent kids start living on the streets as much as possible because they have little to no privacy. No 16-year old wants to sleep in a room with his little brothers and barely have enough opportunity for a wank, let alone being able to invite friends or hang out.
So they take to the streets and get in touch with thug culture. That's just one small part that causes immigrant kids to be more criminal than their native peers.
With our wealth, it seems like we should be able to raise bigger families, but our society simply moved away from making that possible.
It would be interesting to see how a modern, Western, egalitarian society would look like that does facilitate bigger families and removes the need for immigrants, though.
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>>142725600
>I'm guessing we will reach some sort of world war for resources after a certain threshold.
And if that war is going to commence and you want "your guys" to win, is it better to have less or more of "your guys"?

Either growth is sustainable in which case growth is better, or growth is not sustainable in which case growth is still better. Even if you for some reason manage to reach some kind of stagnation equilibrium (which is a utopian pipedream), foreign hordes who have numbers but not resources will take those things from "your guys".

"Your guys" is your nation, or Europe, or your region, or whatever you care about.
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>>142710674
>the move is to have tons of children so they take care of you when you're old
always was
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>>142710841
This,
If only US and Europe wouldn't fck everything with their white crafted morality.
Thats why most Muslims don't care about Ughurs in China simply because China respects other countries border and internal affairs
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>>142725600
>I'm guessing we will reach some sort of world war for resources after a certain threshold.
It's highly possible. We're already nearing water wars in certain parts of the world like Egypt/Ethiopia and China/India. The world simply can't sustain more than 2 billion people, especially when 80% of the current world population have an IQ below the threshold of a retarded person.



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