Do they actually make anything of high quality? Or is it sheer quantity over quality and bootlegs?
>>140042405Of course they do, that’s just a silly stereotype from the copycat era
Nothing comes to mind. They haven't even made a decent movie in over a decade.
>>140042448Oh yeah? like what?
>>140042405Every industrial power that has ever existed started this way.
>>140042534the huawei phones are mostly ok
>>140042534Electronics, free software, clothing, electronics, kitchen supplies, vehicle parts, electronics, copper wires, silky artsy stuff. Every type of tool you can imagine, electronics
they make pretty good audiophile stuff.
>>140042534Haire appliances, lenovo and some of their cars like byd han
>>140042405quantity over quality is their entire business model
>>140042498>heavy machinery>medical devices>arms>pretty much anything high-tech
>>140042405I once bought a inkstick made in china. I never used but it looked cool
>>140042848China does all of this, but better
>>140042688Name a single Chinese brand that is an industry leader or is recognized for high quality. I'll wait.
fuck me you're all retardedjust look at the quality of the machining on your iphone to see, that's made in china. your computer is made in china. everything you use on a daily basis is made in china.
>>140042498Thank you USA for Boeing!
>>140043025Yes of course, let me write in chinese retard. The fuck would I know all I know is I don’t buy shitty “quality” American products that at the end of the day do the absolute same shit than Chinese products. Stop being a corporativist dog
>>140043117So... you can't?
>>140043219He can't. He's just shilling for the CCP. And for free! Bought and sold by propagandists.
>>140042405Huawei is great
>>140042405>chinese made digital carbon calipers: errors +/- 0.3mm>POSeven worse for tape measures ofc
The fact that Chinese brands aren't the best in quality is a fact, and Chinese companies don't even want that. Even the Chinese themselves think that foreign brands are better, so it would be a lost cause for Chinese companies tow aste money in quality. But you can see how they're repositioning themselves in a progressively higher market segment.10 years ago it would have been inconceivable for Huawei to market its smartphones at 700€, and Xiaomi isn't really seen as a meme brand anymore.Lenovo is a special case I guess.Anyway Made in USA isn't much better so you're not one to talk.
I think its about the company rather than the country. I bet there's shit manufacturers in the states and good manufacturers in China.
>>140043421>nips are still butthurt about being surpassed as the Asian big boy
>>140043499I mean if there's one thing they're good at is selling overpriced shit.Muji should be unironically outlawed
>>140042405Certain car parts
>>140043499>everything explodes in china except their bombs>they surpassed us in terms of making comical weapons
Isn't China leader in battery production btwBuses, taxis, bikes are all electric in Shenzhen
>>140043544but china did better job
>>140043583Sorry Takeshi, you should stick to anime
>>140043025HuaweiUSA literally had to apply pressure to stop other countries using their 5G infrastructure.
of course. the quality will only get higher because of based made in china 2025
>>140043421>>140043583Mmm delicious tears. The cope gives me life.
>>140043530I want CN dub Razor to breed me multiple times per day and protect me and cuddle me in the wilderness at night keeping me warm and safe.
>>140043618yes, they are well know for its self-detonation
>>140043752When China threads hit bump limit on /pol/ on a daily basis, with libs spamming copypastas and webms each time, you know they've done something right.>>140043838Kek.
Products or brands? If you're actually asking the former then it's a stupid fucking question since just about every "high quality" electronics product is made in or has components from China.
TODAY I WILL REMIND THEM>Before Nihon came into official use, Japan was known in China as Wa (倭) or Wakoku (倭國). The name was first used during the third-century Three Kingdoms period, and can be translated as "dwarf" or "submissive">For a brief period until Yoshimitsu's death in 1408, Japan was an official tributary of the Ming dynasty>ZERO written language before they stole the Chinese language and simplified it because their monkey brains couldn't understand it>the entire Japanese culture is just Island monkeys doing their best to imitate their Mainland overlords
>>140043874this fuechin >>140044041 is spamming copypaste and is he one of libs ?!
It's 100% our misfortune draining wealth from $ and euro users to try to get their retarded communist projects to work, same as whenthe Federal Reserve funded the USSR from its' inceptionwarred twice to give europe to communistsand continued to keep the USSR on life support for its' entire existence. As soon as whites are cured of parasites China will collapse.
>>140042666Thighs need to be larger
>It's 100% our misfortune draining wealth from $ and euro users to try to get their retarded communist projects to work, same as when>the Federal Reserve funded the USSR from its' inception>warred twice to give europe to communists>and continued to keep the USSR on life support for its' entire existence.>As soon as whites are cured of parasites China will collapse.
>>140044247>Federal Reserve funded USSRyou can't be this retarded. wtf did they teach you in school?
>>140044315Trotsky returned to NY after the first revolt was crushed to secure new credit from Jacob Schiff. He received it. The communist FDR heeded Morgenthau and Bulleit over his American advisors to forgive Russia's debt to the US and extend it further credit. For its' entire existence the USSR relied on the US for even basic necessities like food. It was never a solvent polity.
>>140044315I don't know about it but the US financially supported research on SARS in Wuhan, while Chinese scientists tweaked around its gene and produced SARS 2.0 aka Covid19"US cuts funding to research group with ties to 'bat woman' lab in Wuhan"
>>140044579China was hit by something different than the nothing the rest of the world is getting injections for.
>>140042534Lithium batteries, consumer drones, IOT devices and small appliances, EVs, 3D and holographic technology, solar panels
>>140044579Search Vladimir Kvachkov if you would like to know more.
>>140044493>communist FDRwhat the fuck bro? lmfao. he was the only president that manage to help the working class. please don't taint the guy name like that.
>>140044960He helped global communism and made the US as communist as he could. He was a 3-term dictator and if loyal Americans had not resisted he would have gone further than Social Security, Welfare, etc.
>>140045364bro, you better thanks the guy. if it wasn't for him, the entire us economy would collapse. he was the president during great depression., the worker was about the killed the entire system. He was the one who make a deal with them to keep the system going. You need to learn your history again if you want to argue about him. If it wasn't for him, the capitalist class would have die. US would turn into another ussr if it wasn't for him.
I own a Chinese smartphone and I constantly drop it and it never breaks, the last iPhone I owned, the screen broke within the first month.
>>140045495The Great Depression was caused by The Federal Reserve. A president who wanted to fix America's finances would start by executing those traitors. FDR never did. If you want a man to thank then thank Hitler for giving western europe a respite from communism. If it wasn't for him the entirety of Europe would be part of the USSR.
>>140045585Do Chinese smartphones break down on purpose like iPhones do? My iPhone is starting to crap out on me again so I'll probably never buy Apple again.
>>140044686>IoT devicesThese are all shit>3D and holographic technologyThey're far behind the 3D display race
>>140042405Doesn't matter, they're winning regardless
>>140045748Nah, the TGD will collapse (or has collapsed and they're covering it up) thanks to their shitty construction.
>>140043666Huawei is so good ngl. Best decision I ever made.
>>140045844>>140043666>buying jeetdroidJust buy a Librem 5 you morons. Stop paying for the privilege of having a spy device in your pocket at all times.
>>140045364Also, you know minimum wage wasn't a given right? worker right was also not a given. it was because people in union fought for it that we got it. All of this is an attribute of socialism. Capitalism is about getting the fruit of our labor into the hand of capitalist. it wasn't handed to us, people fought and die for it. I hope you can see why everyone championed fdr. While he kept the system going (which is something nobody indented), he lifted everyone out of poverty at the time and championed the worker right. >Federal Reserveyes, they did cause the downfall but why are you blaming fdr for the downfall of great depression. The guy inherited the system during the great depression my guy. Yes, we could execute those fucker, and fdr was the catalyst for the downfall because the union stopped after he gave them the benefits. No one strive anymore after given so much benefits. >hitlerbruh, hitler was about to end the entire Europe. They invaded ussr and try to take their capital. Ussr have to respond. baka, the notion that ussr wanted to take over europe and hitler trying to free europe is crazy. the allies and ussr allied with each other during ww2 happened for a reason. Are you trying intentionally misinterpret history? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and ask you to please learn your history again. Side note, ussr was still a developing nation at the time. They aren't capable to force entire europe.
>>140045794THIS IS MY LAST COPE
>>140045748I think the era of "winners" is over. The world is permanently multipolar now. China will be relevant from now on but The USA won't go away either, its capital markets and ease of doing business give it advantages nowhere else has.
>>140044247>China will collapseYes. As soon as whites are freed from their shackles by the boogiemen Jews (any day now) China will definitely collapse (any day now).
>>140045919This would be the good end, the bad end is that we completely self destruct because of our own retardation.
>>140045892>NOOOOOOOOOOO ONLY THE NSA IS ALLOWED TO SPY ON US
>>140045892>buy a Librem 5Why?
>>140045892Look, most phones are spyware, I'd rather have a good one than a shitty 'Murica made one
>>140042405This stuff's pretty good
>>140045939>This would be the good end, the bad end is that we completely self destruct because of our own retardation.I just don't see how that's possible. For all its faults the USA is the global hotbed for innovation for a reason. Startups there are able to be very nimble in ways nobody else can match.
some chinese garment factories have become pretty high quality but 99.9% aren't
>>140042666pretty sure that's Japan
>>140045939unless the chinese allow the jews to control business in china (they won't) the usa will forever be relevant as their preferred base of making money.
>>140042405their cellphones are way better than Amerimutt shit
>>140045719iphone processor run hella hot recently. it is due to their "engineering". their design is retarded. many phone made in china like samsung are really good. I suggest you look into android for fun. you can mod it as well.
> One of the key selling points of the Librem 5 crowdfunder was convergence support or the ability to use the phone like a PC. Ultimately, however, there isn't much on offer. Connecting devices to the phone over Bluetooth didn't enable convergence; neither did a USB-C hub with HDMI. So basically they couldn't meet much of the core goals that they established. Very reliable.> Some support was required from Purism to get the Librem 5 up and running. Following an initial successful boot, the phone rapidly lost charge. After several days of charging, it turned out that the phone refuses to charge while powered up. Furthermore, it emitted considerable heat. Not enough to melt anything, but certainly warmer than a phone should be.> In addition, the device refused to boot. Fortunately, an answer was provided on the Purism website. While the experience underlines the beta nature of the phone, the sheer list of issues other users have faced makes for sobering reading.Fucking lol.
>>140045906He's a /pol/tard larper. Don't give him serious replies
I literally could not give less of a hoot about China spying about me.
>>140046145Spoken like a true chink.
>>140046112oh, lmao. thank you. I'm not on pol, i didn't realize.
I have some good headphones from them.China has the ability to completely cover the "cheap goods" market. Making a higher quality product will only increase the production cost, thus increasing the price, thus reducing their control over that market.also also your iphone and pretty much all your other electronics are made by them
girls, they make some seriously high quality girls
>>140045946No you moron. Stop buying jeetdroid and ijeet shit. Don't give the NSA, Apple, Google or Huawei your data.>>140045958Because it's a good phone with a good OS. Not going into the billions of things wrong with Android. It has many privacy-minded features including hardware killswitches, and a philosophy centered around elevating respectful business practices like right-to-repair, replaceable batteries, etc. Many reasons you can find yourself via research.
Quantity, they make huge amount of cheap crap. The best things they make is cameras to spy on you ironically.
>>140046095Even so called American phones are probably actually designed by some underpaid Indian/Chinese engineers in America and manufactured in some sweatshop overseas.If apple resorted to such to tactics in the past, I don't see why any other brand would not do the same given the purpose is to save cost and earn profit.
>>140046176>you have to be Chinese to not give a shit about China noting what kind of porn you watchI'll only care if they have access to my bank account. Go kill yourself faggot.
>>140045989>good oneYou're not getting that with anything running jeetdroid, that's for sure.
>>140042405They probably keep the high quality shit for themselves and sell all the ghetto shit to Americans.
>>140042405luxury market tier equipment? no. but everything else seems of acceptable quality for the price.
>>140046200>Because it's a good phone>With the current setup, the charge lasts three to five hours.Yeah. Just not worth it for me.
>>140042405chinese women are greatexcept they don‘t shave anywhere and have light mustachesbut they are easy and don‘t even want money if you‘re whitetaiwan is best though
>>140046213Yeah.Look at this Americanoid seething that people aren't choosing his country's dogshit products anymore.
>>140046251It's the pains of being an early adopter, I'll admit. Still, keep it in the back of your mind. It won't be the last alternative to the jeetdroid/ijeet cuckbox that consoomers crammed themselves into. Open source hardware has gained a lot of traction in the last decade thanks to the absolute state of the world. Who know where we'll be in 5 years.
>>140046359>It's the pains of being an early adopter, I'll admit.Then stop recommending it to me faggot. I'll take a look at it in maybe 5 years but until then I'll stick with my Huawei.> It won't be the last alternative to the jeetdroid/ijeet cuckbox that consoomers crammed themselves intoIf it ever starts to become a big label because of those little niches Android will just copy some features and reproduce it on a bigger scale.
>>140045906>laws were changed because of the peopleNo policies were implemented by elite fiat. It's simple if-then logic. If [president was loyal] then [loyal action].If not loyal action then presiden'ts not loyal. FDR did not do the loyal thing therefore he's not loyal. >historyYou are relying on the misinformation we were raised to believe via school, the media, etc. In real life Bulleitt and Morgenthau told the UK and France to tell Poland to start whit with Germany and they did. If: communists in the US weren't telling UK and France to egg on Polandthen: Poland would not antagonize Germany into war. Joe Kennedy, as a point of contrast, while acting as diplomatic envoy to the UK gave the accurate, opposite advice, saying if Poland went against Germany it would come to war and the US shouldn't do this. If you want to know history read books like The Spy's War where you will learn Germany was riddled with spies and Stalin knew full well Hitler would oppose his invasion over the Eastern border. Germany crushed the Red Army anyway because they were that much better. The USSR was only rebuilt and outfitted with a new army because of American funding, material, technical experts, etc.
This is a stupid argument. Almost all consumer electronics are manufactured in China at this point, with most of the non-Chinese remainder being produced in Japan/SK. America is borderline irrelevant, propped up only by Intel (declining hard) and milspec shit.
>>140046338Its not about where it comes from. Ideally I'd like a phone running on a RISC V SoC with other quality hardware, fully open schematics, but we're just not there yet. The first example of such a phone is likely to be Chinese, and I'd encourage you to buy that too (as soon as it's verified by independent parties that there are no hardware sniffers embedded in the circuitry)It's about rejecting the monumental privacy violations that are committed by companies like apple, jewgle and huawei. You shouldn't be buying anything jeetdroid no matter where it comes from. Geopolitics are completely irrelevant.
>>140046469America can only blame itself for choosing to outsource so much stuff which it even include complex electronics.The first massive disadvantage of outsourcing is you eventually lose all your knowledge capital. But no muh capitalism! Have to think of the stock price and shareholders!
>>140046469>This is a stupid argument. Almost all consumer electronics are manufactured in China at this pointOnly because Chinese labor is cheap enough to produce all this. As China gets richer and the standard of living goes up it will become exponentially more expensive for manufacturing to remain in china.
>>140046481It's impossible to have complete privacy using electronics unless you go to a small time company making shit phones. At that point you're paying an obscene amount of money for some self-satisfaction.
>>140046530>America can only blame itself for choosing to outsource so much stuff which it even include complex electronics.You can't blame them too much. Economic Liberalism works by many countries working together to build a economy like Cogs in a Machine. Problem is China is still stuck in it's dinosaur age Nationalism like a Man child refusing to grow up.
>>140046053>unless the chinese allow the jews to control business in china (they won't) the usa will forever be relevant as their preferred base of making money. "Who were the Sassoon family?"Belt and Road Initiative. When the USA goes to war with China over Iran our parasite infection will go terminal, just like when Germany was Stabbed in the Back, and America will collapse like the USSR already did, as the World Economic Forum predicted.Our only hope would be if we had a military of our own to attack our enemy but apparently our intelligence community and armies are too oblivious, stupid, cowardly, or corrupted to fufill their proper role.
>>140046530I mean this will happen to China too. The 996 lifestyle is not sustainable for a first world country. Eventually work will move abroad to a cheaper country or be expensive enough that America will choose to make things at home again because it's not any more expensive to do so.
>>140042405I bought both a ryzen 5 3600 and a RX 5700 from them about 2 years ago and they are still working just fine.Also I have two drones I use to record footage when I go biking to the mountains that are chinese and never once have died on me. Honestly chink shit is pretty good but I've been probably lucky.
>>140046694>ryzen 5 3600 and a RX 5700
>>140046182>>140046643Until China has a financial system as liberalised as America (impossible because the CCP would lose too much control) Jewish bankers will not choose to move their money out.
>>140046531This is true of low-tech production, but electronics are a different story, it relies a lot on concentrated supply chains and a large supply of skilled workers. I've read that there are as many credentialed electrical engineers in Canton as there are in all of the US, and with all of the factories concentrated there it's easy for businesses to find supply and prototype.Meanwhile, they tried building that LCD factory in Wisconsin and couldn't even find a domestic supplier of the glass they needed. Apple tried to build Macbooks domestically and couldn't find anyone to make the right screws.
>>140046469we are talking about Chinese products designed and made by Chinese makersin general the products are horrible but the worst is Chinese sellers
>>140046732Everything runs smooth and adjusted to my budget, hell, tarky on ultra is a breeze. Might need some serious upgrading for stalker 2 though.
>>140046745>Meanwhile, they tried building that LCD factory in Wisconsin and couldn't even find a domestic supplier of the glass they needed. Apple tried to build Macbooks domestically and couldn't find anyone to make the right screws.These were problems China most likely faced initially when trying to get into electronic manufacturing. With enough capital,time and initiative it's possible to make a competitive electronic manufacturing base here.
>>140046581>At that point you're paying an obscene amount of money for some self-satisfaction.Because paying an obscene amoint of money for huawei's marketing is so much better, when you could have gotten a better chinese jeetdroid device from one plus for less than half? Face the facts. You don't want to deal with the inconveniences of being an early adopter, that's fine. But at some point your justifications run out and you have to contend with the fact that you've essentially been programmed to view things like a consoomer.
>>140042405Direct translations of Chinese place names.
>>140046810>Escape from MemekovCome on anon your whole life is cringe at this point.Get with the big boys and get a 3Series and play a real game instead of Gacha Strike
>>140042405There are plenty of quality things that come out of China. The Lenovo AMD T14 thinkpad is probably the best laptop made in 2020.
>>140046819The USA hasn't been able to put German manufacturing out of business despite it being a first world country. There are loads of high tech assembly jobs American companies seemingly can't compete with because of knowledge base and supply chains. If they can keep those high paid, high skill assembly jobs so can China.
>>140046937Difference is that's German companies making German products. Not American companies assembling their products in China.
>>140046957How many of those American companies will be left once China has stolen all their technology?
>>140046937>The USA hasn't been able to put German manufacturing out of business despite it being a first world country.Germany is one of the biggest countries in Europe with a well established manufacturing base, not to mention they do much of the manufacturing in Europe. You also seem to forget one of the points of Economic Liberalism, it's not to put Allied nations out of business as that would destroy relations with a big country especially Germany. > There are loads of high tech assembly jobs American companies seemingly can't compete with because of knowledge base and supply chains.Knowledge base isn't a problem, it's high wages of workers (Don't forget about all the secrets and techniques stolen by China) and America has really good supply chains for the manufacturing it has.
>>140047018china can't even properly steal taiwan's sc fab tech
>>140046822>But at some point your justifications run out and you have to contend with the fact that you've essentially been programmed to view things like a consoomer.Yes, because focusing on charge duration, quality of call and camera quality is the absolute definition of a consumer. It doesn't matter I don't switch out my phone like jeans and buy a new one every couple of weeks. I have to be a consumer for not buying this currently faulty phone shilled on an anonymous Ghanaian face-painting forum.>Because paying an obscene amoint of money for huawei> The Librem 5 USA will cost an eye-watering $1,999 If that's USD that'd be 2.500 Australian dollars. I'd be paying a lot more than what I did for my Huawei AND getting less.
>>140046875I can already see inaccuracies in this map which makes me doubt the others. In Chinese, the name for Vietnam is the same as the Vietnamese name for Vietnam: South Yue/Viet, Yue/Viet being the ethnic group from that region.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BaiyueAnother one is Japan, which has the same definition as the Japanese name. Japan = 日本 = Sun Origin = Land of the Rising Sun. The kanji for book is the same as the kanji for origin. Sounds like whoever made this map just ran it through Google Translate lol.I'm also pretty sure Brazil in Chinese has the word "west" in it.
>>140047224Zhang get your autism checked.
>>140046875>the place where humanity's greatest evil was born and flourishing>moral-land???
>>140042405Definitely not their shitty satellites, in fact they have no cutting edge technology, it's all mass produced consoomer shit
>>140044686The problem with these things is that they're all old tech someone else invented and the Chinese can just make an OK inexpensive version of it now. I think OP meant like industry leader or truly innovative products.
>>140047099heh, are you a semiconductor geek? so, how is china looking here? I'll say give them 5 years to edge out in competition with the rest of the industry. what do you think?
>>140047099Didn't they hire thousands of TSMC engineers?
>>140042405China has always been about quantity. Whatever quality that gets produced is because whenever a great quantity of something is made, it's statistically inevitable that some of them will be of good quality.
>>140047904The projections of their own companies would indicate they've got a very, very long way to go. We'll have to see how things pan out, but I doubt they'll even have a sizeable minority market share in 2030.>>140047923And all it got then was 28nm in 2020. They won't even be self-reliant at that level for another two years. They're a long ways away from trading blows with SK and Taiwan.
>>140048764AFAIK the main bottleneck is actually fab construction. TSMC is building one in the US but even that won't be finished until the mid 2020s or so.I hold stock in TSM though, so hopefully it'll take China a bit longer to catch up. You just know they'll flood the market to drive down prices as soon as they're done.
>>140048827>>140048764To be honest, I'm thinking they will need to carry out rnd t for asml equivalent too. I'm just going to hope buying share into china fab will pay off in the long run when they catch up.
>>140048761not necessarily true for mass produced goods
>>140042534Nice CPU coolers