What's your take on Pope Francis's wording in yesterday's homily on the day of Saints Peter and Paul? Is Francis walking further away from the claims of absolute authority that the Catholic Church used to have? In practice, this has happened many times already with previous Popes (starting with John Paul II I think) but it looks like Francis is taking it one step further by saying that Jesus is the Rock of Matthew 16:18.>“You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church” (v. 18). He was not called “Peter”, “rock”, because he was a solid and trustworthy man. No, he will make many mistakes afterwards, he was not so reliable, he will make many mistakes; he will even reach the point of denying the Master. But he chose to build his life on Jesus, the rock; not - as the text says - “on flesh and blood”, that is, on himself, on his capacities, but on Jesus (cf. v. 17), who is rock. And Jesus is the rock on which Simon became stone. We can say the same of the Apostle Paul, who gave himself totally to the Gospel, considering all the rest to be worthless, so as to earn Christ.
>>8961034His ending was the best part.
>>8961034Just the Chruch doing the first E of triple E.
>>8962422>triple EWhat's that?
>>8962417hE likEs rocks so hEy, good spEEch first E of triple E
>>8961034>And Jesus is the rock on which Simon became stone.he’s saying the opposite of your analysis, that Jesus gave authority to the Church.
Papal Infallibility wasn't introduced until the 1800s.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility
>>8962598>my only knowledge of the subject is the first paragraph of a wikipedia article
>>8962613Where did I say that?I just threw down a reference.That also isn't a counter-argument.There is no evidence of God and Catholicism itself is a joke, one that completely contradicts the Bible.
>>8961034He could be expressing how Christ is the chief cornerstone Ephesians 2:20>And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone
>>8961034john paul ii raped little children
>>8962857Why do you hate holy catholic tradition?
>>8962613>no! you can't just say that Rome took advantage of the fall of the other major christian centers to make themselves more dominant!
Maybe Francis realizes once Catholics get off their high horse reuniting with the Orthodox is more likely
'Cause its way too holey. But hey so are rocks. Porosity and permeability.
>>8962593The wording is what's important. Especially in a homily about Apostle Peter where he mentions Constantinople a few sentences later.>On this occasion it is traditional for a delegation from the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople to come to Rome, but this year it is not possible due to the pandemic. Therefore, I spiritually embrace my dear brother, the Patriarch Bartholomew, in the hope that our reciprocal visits may resume as soon as possible.Here's the whole texthttp://www.popefrancishomilies.com/news/06-2020/pope-francis-saints-peter-and-paul-29-06-20-angelus
>>8962590Huh. there Are three (3) e's..."Th(e)r(e) Is No H(e)ll"...
>>8963004>>8962578>>8962584there is no limbo, only 2 e's
>>8963004Can you stop spazzing out and give me a reliable source that he said that?
>>8963019http://www.vatican.va/content/vatican/en.html"There Is No Hell" ~ Jesus Christ! (3 e's)
>>8963034Ok found it, some atheist journalist and the Pope refute him.
>>8963017>>8963019>>8963034>>8963059HEY THANKS WE'RE ALL SAVED
>>8963085Everyone Saved! PraiseJesus!
>>8961034heretic, and he will burn in hell
>>8963085>>8963093>>8963103that was nice of the creator jesus saving every living creature!
>>8963085>>8963093>>8963103>>8963126Hey spasticbro, can you bump this thread for the next 8-9 hours without flooding it? I need to go but I want to add more when I come back.
>>8962904>Why do you hate holy catholic tradition?He preferred girls, though, which, by some, would be seen as unorthodox.
>>8963109>heretic, and he will burn in hellBrainlet, while it is true that Francis preaches a very unorthodox doctrine, nothing that he said is heretical, and, moreover, existed in Catholic discourse since medieval times.
>>8963126>that was nice of the creator jesus saving every living creature!>>8963134>must go myself, but will have creator jesus keep bumping it!
>>8963195Why the groundhog?
>>8963324I dunno, G-D went to the rig.
>Is Francis walking further away from the claims of absolute authority that the Catholic Church used to have?Yes. I remember hearing that his personal favorite title is "Bishop of Rome".
>>8961034I believe Jesus is the rock of Matt 16:18 but I don't think Francis is making that claim here. It looks like he's naming Jesus as a rock on which peter puts his trust, unrelated to the image of the rock on which the church is built.
>>8962632Wikipedia is not a source
>>8962979Francis's wording is that Peter was declared petros because he affirmed that Jesus was the Christ, not because he had some special quality that made him worthy, which is exactly how the verses go.
>>8966109GOTT rock - DIGG rollGott rock - Digg rollG rock - D rollrock & roll
>>8961034>What's your take on Pope Francis's wording in yesterday's homily?Carmelite lab Measures (2020) souls Physical Propertieshttps://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Constants/index.htmlhttp://www.vatican.va/content/vatican/en.htmlhttps://www.orthodoxcatholicchurch.orghttp://www.anglicancommunion.orgFranciscan, Dominican & Benedictine labs Confirm JesuitUniversal Soul (2020) physical property Measurements1) soul time: 0.000...1 second2) soul length: 0.000...1 meter3) soul substance: 0.000...1 mole4) soul mass: 0.000...1 kilogram5) soul current: 0.000...1 Ampere6) soul temperature: 0.000...1 Kelvin7) soul intensity: 0.000...1 candelaJesuit, Franciscan, Dominican & Benedictine labsUniversal Soul (2020) physical property Anglessoul fine-structure = 7.297352566 x 10^-3 srsoul fine-structure angle = 1.459470513 x 10^-2 radsoul spin one-half = 5.000000000 x 10^-1 sr/radsoul dielectric constant = 1.000000000 x 10^0 sr/srsoul relative permeability = 1.000000000 x 10^0 rad/radsoul spin two = 2.000000000 x 10^0 rad/srsoul /fine-structure angle = 6.851799958 x 10^1 /radsoul /fine-structure = 1.370359991 x 10^2 /srCarmelite lab Peer group Measures(2020) souls Physical PropertiesNatural Science Real Line: "∞ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 . . . ∞"Mathematics UnReal Line: ". . . -3 -2 -1 ±0 +1 +2 +3 . . ."'infinitesimal <--- Real Line ---> infinite'https://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Constants/index.htmlhttp://www.vatican.va/content/vatican/en.htmlhttps://www.orthodoxcatholicchurch.orghttp://www.anglicancommunion.orgThat's my take. Study.YHWH Allah(LORD God)a.a #1
>>8967295So Catholics are finally professing what Eastern Orthodox and Protestants have always professed? That Peter's confession is the rock.
>>8967779THAT is One (0.000...1) Helluva TAKE!Say! under that rock I build my Church.O LUCIFERthe DevilSatana.a #1
>>8967612So Mormons are professing what Muhammad's Islamics and Ali's Muslims have always professed? That Isa, son of Marium, is the rock.
>>8961034God is a Rock?
>>8963034little wonder christians hate jesus for saving all living creatureswhen he closed limbo, purgatory, and hell a few years ago.the only business of jesus' four sole proprietorships which hekept open is heaven, and that really pisses christians off.>and why?because every body goes to heaven, every living thing,anti-theists, atheists, antitheists, theists, every one.>0.000...1
>>8963402Really? That's actually big news.
>>8969427Seriously? A nothing Burger
>>8967817>That Peter's confession is the rock.No, that isn't how I read it. It's just some weekday homily where instead of going on about the usual Peter is the First Pope homily that people have heard a million times he's going a little bit deeper. Saying that Peter's faith is what made him worthy of being the foundation of the Church, despite being woefully and humanly incompetent.
>Francis walking further away from the claims of absolute authority that the Catholic Church.I think he's trying to reason with the orthrodox eastern church. Perhaps giving up Papal power could mend the wounds of the Great Schism.
>>8963402>"Bishop of Rome".I for one enjoy servus serorum Dei as the favorite title of the Pope. Francis likes minimizing himself. Which is fine.
>>8966105>>8967887>>8968039absolutely our God is the Rock all of Christianity hates
>>8968231>>8970523Fuck that Rock for Saving every Body and Plantand Creature of Jesus' and Fuck all Christiansthey Rape the Wallets and Kids and Stones.Serpent Shaytan
>>8967887>>8970523>>8970706Sure wish Jesus would Re-openHell so I could Go home. Iblis
>>8963134>can you bump this thread for the next 8-9 hours without flooding it? I need to go but I want to add more when I come back.Wowza, you sure DID add more. Nice pics.
Bergoglio is an atheist and a marxist. Anyone who defends his legitimacy is a joke. The silver lining is that more and more errors that arose after V2 are getting exposed as a result of his antipapacy. There is a reasonable hope that V2 will be dropped and forgotten in our lifetimes like other historical false councils.
>>8970523>>8970838That’s sure is a lot of schizophrenia