How bad is the replication crisis when it comes to history? It feels like some historians write dumb things all the time that become very easily accepted facts by the entire community.
>>15898039History is the most ideologically tainted science next to philosophy and economics. Expect 90% of all information to be bullshit.
>>15898045This board is especially emblematic of the problem. People use historical discussions as proxies for their modern politics and racial grievances.
I don't understand the OP picture - if you think that low income people and minorities aren't disproportionately affected by natural disasters, pandemics, pollution, etc. (not just in the West but everywhere) then you aren't understanding what the papers driving these headlines are saying in the first place
>>15898039Why are leftists incapable of understand history and science? Why are they incapable of formal systematic rational and empirical thought?
>>15898150Unlike academics, who definitely do not use these institutions to pursue their modern politics and racial grievances.
>>15898204Because history is for low IQ.
>>15898215Most Academics don't give a fuck about anything beyond their autistic interests. Get off /his/ if you're anti-intellectual>>15898039Or is it entirely possible that perhaps previous historical narratives were tainted with racial bias and now these new stories are coming to light and you don't like it because it weakens your invented nationalist narratives?'1400s Europe was a very interconnected place, it's entirely possible there were blacks in London.
>>15898039I know that people never read past the headlines, but the article itself is even dumber.Their conclusion is that medieval systemic racism was responsible for the alleged higher mortality rate.
>>15898039A lot of history doesn't even fall under replication as a criteria. Like how are you going to verify the battle of Stalingrad? Find archaeological evidence?
>>15898530Less access to health services? Ostracisation due to racial foreignness? Doesn't seem very far fetched>>15898549>Find archaeological evidence?Most historians rely on archaeological evidence, yes. You realise there is a sub-discipline of archaeology called 'historical archaeology'?
>>15898172You would understand it when you realize the article implies that there was a significant black minority in London at that time
OP are you in denial about well known culling of the european native Black population such that the plague was called the BLACK plague? Try not speedreading your textbook next time!
>>15898556Systemic/institutional racism means that an entire socio-political system was structured to specifically disadvantage people of a certain race. You're insane if you think that's appropriate to describe 15th century England.
>>15898556What is ahistorical archeology? Indiana Jones?
>>15898039>>15898568This OP try explaining how the native european POCs survived the justinian plague just fine but were decimated by the Black death to the point it was named after them. Systemic racism with roots in whites getting uppity the instant they were no longer lived under POC rule is the obvious reason.
>>15898039>How bad is the replication crisis when it comes to history?Lmao history is perfectly safe from it because there are no experiments to replicate.The main issue is that two people can easily read the same source and come to completely different interpretations of its content.That's really not the consequence of the replication crisis though.
>>15898624>The main issue is that two people can easily read the same source and come to completely different interpretations of its content.Maybe in narrative accounts. But the OP research is clearly shuffling meager surviving records with zero statistical signifance and applying scientific method to reach a conclusion, social science rather than history. Only reason it is called history is history can also mean the entire human past
>>15898523Oy vey you filthy gentiles, don't you know that Europe in the 1400s was a multiracial paradise before the evil devil spawned w*ite man decided to genocide all the brave black indigenous Europeans. Those brave souls that selflessly advanced Europe out of the dark ages and taught the pale skinned devils how to bathe, read and write were killed for their altruism
>>15898755Dilate
I don't understand how if blacks have existed in England for hundreds of years, not one of them done anything of note that would have gotten written down. Not a single one even learnt how to write? That seems like a more racist worldview than just accepting that sub Saharan Africans weren't migrating to northern Europe in the 1400s.
>>15898039You can shovel out any shit as long as it's woke marxist garbage. Nobody will check.
>>15898807The question is statistical significance >>15898633England had a population in the millions, a few dozen blacks in major ports become owning the chuds material same as the thing with the jamaican made machinery the other day
>>15898523>Or is it entirely possible that perhaps previous historical narratives were tainted with racial biasYes, it is possible>and now these new stories are coming to lightOr they are just creating new narratives; people are still just as stupid and biased as they were before
>>15898172There weren't enough niggers in London back then to make any kind of meaningful statistic. By even trying to debate the conclusion you've accepted the false premise, which is the entire point here.
>>15898556>Less access to health services? Ostracisation due to racial foreignness?There was no cure for the black plague back thenThey probably had less antibodies because the plague was not an issue in Subsaharan AfricaJust like European colonists in Africa were more vulnerable to local disease
>>15898039Is this their cope as to why there are next to no black people in British history until very recently?>UM actually, there were many black people in London but the plague wiped them out
>>15898204>white European or AsianWhy don't they just say European? They don't specify the colour of the Asians.
>>15898204>"white European">Just "Asian"Hahaha come on
>While nothing specific is known about the individuals’ lives, the team say many women of colour would have worked in domestic service and experienced race and sex-based discrimination. But I though racism hadn't been invented then?
>>15898045If history was a science we'd be posting on /sci/
>>15898915>we don't have any examples of individual colors, but they were definitely oppressed for their race, guysRacism of the gaps
>>15898039>Rebecca Redfern She's been doing this for ages, literally gets a yearly article at the beeb. This time she's been doing skull measuring and claiming London was 20% black in the 1400's, next year she'll be back to measuring hipbones incorrectly and claiming she's found transexual roman skeletons.
>>15898871>>15898912Some of you Europeans aren't "white". Ever notice that it's only deluded Europeans who refuse to acknowledge that there are people who can vary in skin color just as greatly as other races of people?
>>15898871''Asians'' in the UK usually means people from India or the Middle EastTheir skulls are similar to white people's; she's holding out on the hope some of those caucasian skulls are actually Arabs
>>15898966>She's been doing this for ages, literally gets a yearly article at the beeb. This time she's been doing skull measuring and claiming London was 20% black in the 1400'sDid they commit over 50% of the violent crime in London too lmao?Could have sworn I've seen an article about plague burials in London claiming that 'many' of the burials were black people. Sounded like absolute bullshit. Probably written by her. >>15898975They use the term 'white European' to pretend that whites are simply another type of European people, alongside so-called 'black Europeans', and not *the* European people.
>>15898983>''Asians'' in the UK usually means people from India or the Middle EastI'm aware of that. My point is that if they are going to write 'white European' they should describe every ethnic group with a colour Like 'Yellow Chinese' or 'Brown Arab'. If they don't do that with other ethnicities because their appearance is irrelevant and doesn't need to be stated then why do it with Europeans?
>>15899008>They use the term 'white European' to pretend that whites are simply another type of European people, alongside so-called 'black Europeans', and not *the* European people.At this point they are. There are now nonwhites whose parents and/or grandparents came to Europe and have more ties to their country of residence than to the country of their ancestors.
>>15899016That doesn't make them European though.
>>15898523Most academics in the humanities are extremely biased - there is a replication crisis for a reason, because they’re cognitively feminine people like you who engage in magical thinking. They’re incapable of rational and empirical argument.
>>15899014>Yellow Chinese' or 'Brown Arab'.Chinese people aren't yellow, they're either light skinned, olive, or light brown with varying skin undertones, and Arabs aren't all brown either.
>>15899040At that point they're more European than anything else, though their citizenship status varies depending on the country.
>>15899059But they aren't European still. >Begging the question fallacy
>>15899040Hey, unrelated poster here. Can I ask you what are you thoughts on white people living outside of Europe in countries they colonized. Are they true citizens of those regions, like White South Africans or White Australians?
>>15899063Yep. Considering South Africans built the country and were they before Bantu expansion. Call it Karma the country is becoming more and more of a shithole.
>>15899062It's a real question - why stick to definitions of identity from the days when people rarely left the town or province they were born in?
>>15899016>At this point they are.No they aren't.>There are now nonwhites whose parents and/or grandparents came to Europe So what? They still aren't Europeans.
>>15899086Because they aren't European. Stop trying to force a square in a circular hole.
>>15899086“Identity” is a conflationary nonsense term invented by Jewish pseudo-marxists world-systems theorists in the 70s fleeing from their failures in other disciplines.
>>15899091>>15899093>>15899106Butthurt reactiontranny blubbering
>>15899063>what are you thoughts on white people living outside of Europe in countries they colonized. Are they true citizens of those regions, like White South Africans or White Australians?NTA but they are citizens of those countries because they founded those countries. The modern country of Australia was clearly not created by Australian Aborigines, but the whites there are obviously are not natives of those lands, and are never going to be considered truly native to that land.
>>15899093>Stop trying to force a square in a circular holeAs if they care. The entire point was to boil the frog for long enough to develop a coalition of freaks to combat and destroy western middle classes.
>>15899107They still aren't European.
>>15899122Because you say so?
>>15898039>>15898204Why aren't leftists ashamed of this garbage?
>>15899247Marx is the patron saint of oppressivist leftism and al his falsified predictions failed to stop them. Nothing of the sort is going to budge them.
>>15899206Because a piece of paper doesn’t make it so.
>>15899016>They still areIn the same (a shallower way, technically) way an afrikaner is african or a mennonite is latin american.
>>15899086Why try to pretend a person with no connection with european history, language or culture is European?At that point european might as well be a meaningless geographic disegnation.Or an indication you lived in rootless economic zone #5 ("europe" or "America")
>>15899397>>15899320Like I said, at that point they're not just there for work. Naturalization in countries like France entails familiarity with French culture, history, and language and a certain period of residence. For most European countries that period is between four and ten years. France in particular takes issue with migrants who publicly show their religion or don't speak French.
>>15899446>French cultureThe only "french" culture migrants are consuming is francophone rap and tiktok content. Everything else they import from their home countries or american nigger culture. Ask them who Émile Zola and they'll think you are speaking of an american fashion designer, ask them about Paul Cézanne and they'll be scratching their heads.>historyThey probably have no idea who Clovis or Charles Martel are.>languageThey speak a bastardized ebonics-like pidgin fit only for animals.>France in particular takes issue with migrants who publicly show their religion or don't speak French.It still is surface level shit.
>>15898556I kind of joked about the archaeology but there's simply a lot of history that evidently did happen but archeology can't say anything concrete on it. Good example of that is the spread of Christianity, without the record we'd probably think it was a Greek thing
>>15898975That guy is white and you're just coping.
>>15900221He's white if you mean white = European. But he's literally not white as in fair skinned. He's olive, just like millions of people across the world outside of Europe. There's darker skinned people I could have used that are still very much Europeans genetically.
>>15899076>Considering South Africans built the country and were they before Bantu expansionBantus first arrived in South Africa around 2,000 years ago, which was well before the Dutch even existed as a people. This is why the Nguni speaking Bantus like the Xhosa and to a lesser extent the Zulu retain traces of Khoikhoi and San genetic and linguistic heritage, they were mixing with them. The only actual natives are the San and various other related ethnic groups, as not even the Khoikhoi are indigenous to South Africa.
>>15898039All of these posts for a random image with no source? Yep, that's /his/
>>15901211>Spoonfed me plzOK>https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/nov/21/women-with-black-african-ancestry-at-greater-risk-when-plague-hit-london>When the Black Death hit London in autumn 1348, it caused a wave of devastation, with more than half the city’s population thought to have been killed. But a study has now found women with Black African ancestry could have had a greater risk of death than others.>Research has previously demonstrated that, far from being a homogeneous white society, medieval England – and its capital – had considerable diversity. As well as residents hailing from the far reaches of Europe, documentary and archaeological evidence has revealed people of Black African ancestry and dual heritage lived in London.>Now experts studying the remains of plague victims buried in the city say the disease hit some groups harder than others.>The findings have parallels with the Covid pandemic where, early in the crisis, it emerged Black people were four times more likely to die than white people, mainly because they had a higher risk of infection. Such disparities in mortality decreased as the pandemic wore on.>“Medieval England was a diverse population and, like today, issues around people’s heritage [and] wealth have health outcomes,” said Dr Rebecca Redfern, a co-author of the research at the Museum of London.
>>15901595>Bubonic plague is caused by Yersinia pestis bacteria, with the outbreak that hit England in 1348 – later dubbed the Black Death – part of a devastating pandemic, known at the time as the Great Pestilence.>Writing in the journal Bioarchaeology International, Redfern and colleagues report how they analysed remains from 145 individuals buried at East Smithfield emergency plague cemetery, St Mary Graces and St Mary Spital in London. Of these, 49 died from plague and 96 died from other cause>The team looked at five features of the skulls, such as the shape of the eye area, and by using a forensic databank covering modern and historical populations around the world, explored the individuals’ probable affinity with different populations. The approach, the researchers say, is an established forensic tool, and is not based on controversial methods involving cranial measurements.he results reveal nine plague victims appeared to be of African heritage, while 40 seemed to have white European or Asian ancestry. Among the non-plague burials, the figures were eight and 88 respectively.>While the sample size is small, the team say the findings show a higher proportion of people thought to have Black African heritage in the plague burials compared to the non-plague burials.>Further analysis based on mathematical modelling suggests females thought to have Black African heritage had a greater risk of dying of plague compared with white individuals of similar ages.>While nothing specific is known about the individuals’ lives, the team say many women of colour would have worked in domestic service and experienced race and sex-based discrimination. As a result they would have faced significant hardships and greater risk of disability, which would have made them more vulnerable to disease.
>>15898204>sample size of eighty people from two grave sitesThis paper would have been laughed out of the review process and the people who wrote it mocked without the racial element
>>15898567It says women with black african ancestry.That doesn't mean there was a significant black community in London.
>>15898515Typing like a knuckle-dragging nigger is high IQ isn't it.
>>15901621>“[The plague] is portrayed as being an indiscriminate killer, but we actually know it wasn’t,” said Redfern. Previous studies have shown those who experienced poor nutrition in the famine that preceded the plague had a higher risk of dying from the disease.>Dr Onyeka Nubia, a historian at the University of Nottingham and author of Blackamoores, about Africans in Tudor England, said for some, it remains a challenge to accept that people of different ancestries and heritage were an established part of England’s past.>“It is not a political matter. It’s not a matter of conjecture. It’s actually an evidential fact. England has been ethnically diverse for thousands of years,” he said.>Nubia said the new work opens up further avenues of research.>“We must remember that the plague years were not just 1348-1353 and 1665-1666, but there were deaths during the intervening years between,” he said. “It will be interesting to see how these deaths fit within a wider context.”>But, he cautioned, historical evidence must be treated objectively. “We have a responsibility to make sure that this information does not get divided between left and right in a culture war,” he added.
>>15899483Very underage chud post
>>15900817>But he's literally not white as in fair skinned.White doesn't just mean "fair-skinned".>He's olive, just like millions of people across the world outside of EuropeWhite isn't just a skin tone in isolation.
>>15901621>The team looked at five features of the skulls>is not based on controversial methods involving cranial measurements.Dawg...
>>15898523That’s patently not true, especially given the last ten years considering almost all ivory tower academics have an axe to grind against anything heterosexual, male and white. The irony is the more institutionalized an academic is the more they’re tainted by left liberal notions of justice.
>>15899016>There are now nonwhites whose parents and/or grandparents came to Europe and have more ties to their country of residence than to the country of their ancestors.They got screwed because now they are neither.
>>15898039History isnt a science. >t feels like some historians write dumb things all the time that become very easily accepted facts by the entire community.No dumb interpretations might became commonly accepted, though I would be interested in which things you consider dumb. Historians usually do not publish "facts" unless something new has been found, though that is often done by other experts like archeologists.
>>15899446'French' is a set of ethnicities established over time via the consolidation of the French state. It does not include Africans, Nafris, etc. You can say that some non-French who live in France may prefer France to the nations of their ancestors, but that's quite different from claiming that such people are 'French' (since they are not).
>>15901621This brutally-retarded shit now passes for 'research' at major universities? If you are an academic historian, you should be ashamed right now for letting standards in your field drop this far.
>>15901662Very overage norwood post.
>>15901595>>15901621>>15901656Isn't it kind of funny that they are trying to push extremely hard for blacks specifically instead of the more expedient indians and pakis?But then again the researcher is nigerian. So she could just as well be jerking herself off to fantasy worlds were her parents didn't step off a plane into heathrow during the 80s.Plus, they are 5 mileters away from racial craniometry with this shit.Also, they didn't seem to try and get the remains tested, which is suspicious.Is onyeka hiding something?
>>15902112Also the conclusion has to be ''muh racism'' rather than ''the plague was an Eurasian disease Africans had no immunity to''But i guess this would be problematic since it implies races adapt to their environment and Africans are not native to Europe
>>15901636You’re actually a retard.
>>15898204>Black people in London in the fucking 1300sLiterally how?
>>15902158what, do you think the bubonic plague was native to Europe? kek
>>15902171>African heritageWhat they really mean is vaguely, maybe North African traders. Like a half moor half Portuguese trader.
>>15902180It actually originated in Europe. Aryans brought it East where it further evolved and returned with new strains at later time.
>>15902112>the researcher is NigerianReally says it all honestly. No further inspection is needed.
>>15902188>Aryans brought it EastPlease God I hope you're joking.
>>15902180>what, do you think the bubonic plague was native to Europe?I said Eurasian not EuropeanAnd yes, Asians would presumably have antibodies against it too
>>15902196It's literally a fact. Call them Indo-Europeans or whatever. The earliest y. pestis in the East ever found came from Afanasievo graves.
>>15902228Kek, even the strain that killed Euros came from some Aryan-Turko mutts. I think the guys even had R1a haplo. The plague originating in China is old news. No one who seriously studied it think this anymore. It's a steppe disease. It originated in Europe, probably in some EHG hunter gatherers (oldest sample is from Baltic HGs). Yamnaya brought it East where it became more virulent and dangerous. Sintashta probably also contributed. The direct ancestor of the second pandemic strain has been found in Tian Shan mountains in Kyrgyzstan. That was nomad territory and indeed, an Indo-European nomad territory (to this day those Turk guys are full of R1a-Z93).
>>15902266>Here we report ancient DNA data from seven individuals exhumed from two of these cemeteries, Kara-Djigach and Burana. Our synthesis of archaeological, historical and ancient genomic data shows a clear involvement of the plague bacterium Yersinia pestis in this epidemic event. Two reconstructed ancient Y. pestis genomes represent a single strain and are identified as the most recent common ancestor of a major diversification commonly associated with the pandemic’s emergence, here dated to the first half of the fourteenth century. Comparisons with present-day diversity from Y. pestis reservoirs in the extended Tian Shan region support a local emergence of the recovered ancient strain. Through multiple lines of evidence, our data support an early fourteenth-century source of the second plague pandemic in central Eurasia.
>>15898039It's an absolute travesty that the BBC reports this pseudo-scientific revisionism as front page news. What a fucking joke propaganda rag.
>>15901636Please be trolling
>>15902385Sorry, chuddie, England was 75% black in 1300. When bad thing happens, POC and women are the WORST effected EVERY time.
>>15898523>most academics*all academics write papers that agree 100% with their employer. Don't expect any serious scholarship or integrity from compromised institutions.
>>15898039Black women in XIV century London? Did some late medieval knight come back from Venice with a Nubian squeeze?
>>15902394Akshually, Britain and Ireland were 90% Senegambian until Chudliver "Nigger killer" KKKromwell enacted TND during the English civil war. Get your facts right, crackuh.
We call it the black death because it targets african-american europeans of native afro-european descent. It all makes sense.
>>15902401t. has no idea how academic institutions work, and thinks every college president is a BLM activist.
>>15902591t. blind faith in the institutions
>>15902591he's not far from the truthit's why there is a replication crisis in modern academiaresearchers, instead of examining the evidence they find and coming up with conjecture, are starting from an idea and trying to find pieces of evidence to fit their narrativeit's why shit like OP is published using shaky science like cranial measuring
>>15898204>lowercase white>uppercase BlackAm I going crazy? Why do I keep seeing this happen? I was at a museum recently and saw this with the newer exhibits along with 'latinx' but then saw lowercase black in the older exhibits. Could they not be any more transparent? Don't black people feel patronized by this utter bullshit? This is actually dystopian and racist as fuck but I feel like a schizo for complaning about it because it's so 'miniscule' but so fucking brazen. Like how the fuck did we get to this point where a race of people willingly do this to themselves? I'm not racist at all and this shit is actually turning me into a bitter, resentful person and I think it was designed to. I actually feel sick to my stomach.
>>15899056White people aren't white either. They have pink undertones. East Asians have yellow undertones. That's a literal fucking observation that you can test out right now. Arabs are literally tan which is a shade of brown.Stop being so disingenuous. It's actually making me sick to my fucking stomach.
>>15898556Does archaeology even count as replicable?>an artifact was found>find the same artifact again in the same spot or it didn't happen
>>15903140dehumanization is a key asset of propaganda against a people.
>>15903173>female skeleton was found buried with viking treasures such as armor, swords, spears, and shield>no visible sign of stress or fractures on the skeleton>conclude she is a warrior, when even the most mundane of male peasants had shield fractures on their arms usually from fighting in battlesit's literally making shit up at this point
>>15901621>The approach, the researchers say, is an established forensic tool, and is not based on controversial methods involving cranial measurements.You want even less controversial method? DNA testing. Let's see how African these people were.
>>15903140It’s on purpose.https://www.cjr.org/analysis/capital-b-black-styleguide.php
>>15903391>TFW In Europe they grasp at straws to find non-white remains>TFW they find ancient remains that might be different from the ''indigenous'' population OUTSIDE Europe>oh shit destroy the evidence! SHUT IT DOWN
>>15903173>tfw a 100 years from now someone digs up Mungo Man again
>>15903568still mad about kennewick man, that was some bullshit
>>15903568Lake mungo remains nevar forget.
>>15902591Funny you mention blm considering it got a lot of support from academia. You're not really helping your case, Susan Rosenberg.
>>15903583Maybe someone will find it again in the future>>15903572This one is doomed; according to another anon they did something to make sure Kennewick Man would decay
>>15903173This better not be denial of POGMAIP experiences across the globe
>>15898204>>15902171They didn't actually do any DNA testing.They call them African purely because they think that the skulls look African.Whilst you can actually tell with some accuracy a person's race by their skull shape I do not trust these retards to have done it correctly and it is also never definitive.Just look at Erling Haaland, his skull could be mistaken for a black man.
>>15898204>victims APPEARED to be of african heritage>SEEMED to have white european or asianIt's pretty ballsy to write such BS whilst immediately discrediting your claims to anyone who bothers to pay attention.
>>15902171There's actually a black-admixed sample in the Anglo-Saxon DNA set. It's the only outlier that looks like this. Mysterious, yes, but it was a proper DNA test, not conclusions based on skull features.
>>15904039This is a lie.
>>15904049It's not. Distance to: England_Saxon_oAfrica.SG:EAS003.SG0.12466478 Algerian0.12799833 Moroccan0.13255408 Moroccan_South0.13529275 Berber_MAR_ERR0.13962166 Mozabite0.13977189 Tunisian0.14059969 Tunisian_Berber_Matmata0.14226062 Tunisian_Douz0.14476789 Libyan0.15029433 Berber_MAR_TIZThe distance is too big for it to be a North African. It's a mix of African and European. Target: England_Saxon_oAfrica.SG:EAS003.SGDistance: 1.5725% / 0.01572461 | R5P42.0 Irish31.8 Fulani_Ziniare12.4 Spanish_Soria10.2 Rendille3.6 Madagascar_Mikea
>>15904058You got non-paywalled source?
>>15898039Pic related is from a black British MP. It's got to a point where a significant number of black people and people from other minority backgrounds are waking up to the insanity of this shit and getting pissed off at these grifters. All this stuff does is aggravate racial and ideological tensions.
>>15898039>go to museum of london website>plenty of data from cemeteries>stuff about age, sex, disease, teeth, spines>nothing on raceWhat am I missing?
>>15898039>samples from grave sites near the docks throw up an unusually diverse populationThis shit was entirely predictable. They've picked one of a handful of places in medieval England that would be populated by different ethnicities.
>>15902171The vast majority of the time it is someone who has a slight mixed ancestry from the Mediterranean so either southern Europe or North Africa. But they only say African so people think it was a black person as per their agenda driven narrative of a black community always being present in Britain.
>>15904099this woman should know because in her homeland ethnic tensions are a very real and not very nice thing that leads to wars and genocides. it's something clueless sheltered white liberals who've never known war just their grandpa's stories about the London Blitz would do.
>>15904467It was all done deliberately because they know it will create these conditions which benefits them in some ways, also they know but don’t care and stand to gain in power and financially from the planned forced superdiversity.
>>15904058the Celts being the progeny of the Trojans seeming less like pseudo-history
>>15903509These people unironically deserve the gas.
>>15904531You're way overestimating the intelligence of sheltered white liberals.
>>15904658You’re assuming those liberals aren’t just useful idiots who get their pockets garnished by figures within international finance. It’s convenient for all regardless. Big international finance can move swathes of people around for cheap labour, social tensions create crisis on the streets (that never hurts the political class mind you) like with this Israel vs Palestine situation in London that enables police to obtain greater powers to arrest and disintegrate protests for example. Metropolitan liberals in the political class get their cheap nannies and house workers while getting to feel like they are humane and can demonstrate their virtue to their peers.But yeah you’d have to be naive to think such a massive social ‘engineering’ experiment was purely a result of misguided liberal thinking that is only relevant at the surface level.
>>15898045Anthropology is far more tainted. People deliberately go into that discipline with hopes of confirming biases they already had.
>>15904008>When the wokeness is so extreme that it causes an overflow error and becomes 19th century phrenology
>>15904770That’s the irony of it all they will employ methods and positions of historic European scientific racism but on behalf of the other side in an effort to undermine Europeans peoples birthright and sense of exclusivity. No method is off the table when it comes to this agenda.
>>15901636We used to beat retards like this one till they either dropped the act or learned to keep quiet
>>15904757Yep especially when they are dealing with people who left no written records to limit the level of bullshit
>>15903952They got reburied.It's probably rotten to shit now. Indigenous rights and its consequences.
>>15903952We have Kennewick DNA, so that's less of a loss than Lake Mungo remains.
>>15903572>kennewick cant be caucasian because analysing skull shape is not enough to judge race>also london was full of blacks based on skull analysis
>>15905772>>15905621>This nomadic group of hunter gatherers was totally occupying the same spot for a million years!>They said so so it's true!The absolute state of oral historyCoud you imagine burning Egyptian mummies in a boat because a white larpagan said they are Nordic?
>>15906052>they are nordicI've not seen that claim.I've seen the claim that nords shared the same lightskinned ancestor as the first egyptian dynasties.
>>15906078I have seen people here say this about most civilizationAnyway the point is common (real or imagined) ancestry is usually not an excuse to bury historical evidenceExcept when it involves ''indigenous peoples''
>>15906121>say this about most civilizationYeah probably zoomers.I'm pretty sure that the first Egyptians predate Corded Ware lol.Ethnic replacements are entirely possibly and have happened so I can give them a pass on thinking that happened in some way.>not an excuse to bury historical evidenceIndeed.Even if you had hundreds of corpses I would try and maintain samples from them all, you never know what you might learn at a later date.
>>15898039I didn't know historians did expirements that had to be replicated, you fucking moron op
