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>Hierarchy good. The strong should subjugate the weak. Slaves should know their place.
>Slaves rise up against your oppressors.

What exactly did he want?
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>>15100284
He wanted nothing.
But pol is a retard board. Might makes right is meaningless as you never defined what might is.
Picrel is what pol considers might.
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He was a eugenicist. The theory behind it is that only the foolish would rise up against the strong (since they will get BTFO), and eventually over many generations the weak will become equally as strong which means they'll overcome their inferiority complex.
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>>15100284
see picrel
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>>15100297
Well /his is foolish so that seems like good advice.
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>>15100284
to hear the laughter of thirsting gods
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>>15100284

>it's only survival of the fittest and might makes right when I like the outcome!
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>>15100316
Promoting might makes right doesn't make any sense in the first place
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>>15100284
I think nietzsche was in favor of natural hierarchies and considered them wills to power, but man made hierarchies he was against. All in all he was an agent of chaos, and believed that thru this chaos potential of humanity cud truly be unlocked. Conflict for him is good thing since it allows chaos to manifest and thru the crucible of war of any kind, those unworthy will be cooked and those that r worthy will rise. religion for him was a an attempt at taming chaos which he was against, however subjugation of weak is natural therefore its valid however equally valid is the will to power of slaves to overcome teir masters thus thru this conflict chaos is served and humanity unlock more potential otherwise untapped.
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>>15100332
All hierarchies are man made by definition, so the argument is retarded. "In nature" you just die so the argument is meaningless.
This is why might makes right is only ever used by libs. Actual might would just care about actual problems.
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>>15100332

>if i like it then it's a natural hierarchy. if i don't then it's unnatural.
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>>15100342
i meant religion by man made hierarchies, in nietzshean sense as he was an atheist so all religions are man made hierarchies. By natural hierarchies i mean in darwinian sense, from evolutionary perspective the fittest survive and gets to fuck whereas weak and meek die off.
wat u mean by actual problems?
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>>15100350
Nature in this context means when things actually happen and you die.
Everyone who isn't a retard kills themselves. The fact anyone even exists and is making the argument proves you're not might.
So this is why these threads exist and his remains a retard board. The solution to every philosophical problem is suicide.
>but by existing, I am might, so I have to prolong my existence
Is the retard position, and it's the position pol adopts.
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Atheists try to cope that their religion is nihilism with 2 ways.

The first one is ''traditionalism'', ie ''everyday I want a bureaucratic daddy to tell me what do to in his fascist republic while I am pretending to be wicca witch doing magikkk in my sparetime like Evola''.
Second, with the atheist called Nietzsche and his retarded idea to create and fight for your own values. You have to understand that Nietzsche is an atheist, a nihilist, a postmodernist which appeals to a lot of liberals and other deeply neurotic teenagers because Nietzsche is the achievement of the secular humanism which booted Christianity out of power. Nietzsche is overtly anti-christian, and it permits to all the atheist bug men to actually see themselves as the righteous resilient guy who create his own values.
In effect trannies are the best ubermen ever: they hate to see themselves as they really are, so they change both their neurotic spirit and also their body to match the narrative of the ubermen and even better, they impose their values to non-trannies. Same thing with feminists and all the idolized minorities in Humanism.

Naturally, the atheists cant know right from wrong, so their mental gymnastics about the uberman is flawed. The uberman is actually the last man: the uberman despises so much reality after seeing nihilism, that out of resentment for reality, the uberman CHOOSES to sink further in his delusion by building a narrative where he is not the last man, but actually the opposite, ie the uberman who creates his own values, ie cooming by living in own brain farts until he dies.
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>>15100351
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/51949490/#51949490
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>>15100359

Oh and by the way only atheists take him seriously in the first place. Atheists love him because according to them, he found a way to be nihilistic without leading to suicide. In order to avoid being called a nihilist, friedrich PUSSY nietzsche re-defined nihilism to be 'not living in the present moment', which applies to christianity.
So now atheists dont say they are nihilistic, they say they are vitalist. And as a bonus they get to shit on christianity (their perpetual enemy that they defeated centuries ago, yet they still beat a dead horse to smugly fill up their days). You have to understand that atheists are braindead hypocrites so even when they say they are vitalist instead of nihilistic, they still remain 100% hedonistic and they still dont know what not do with their lives beyond making up self-aggrandizing narratives to feel justified for wanting to and actually doing coomming all day long.


Whoever takes Nietzsche or Evola seriously is completely lobotomized by atheism.
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>>15100284
stating facts
hierarchy is only natural not good or anything
it's survivalism and the reason the god-thing psychosociological issue exist
projection of your conscience
to be the best to be the god to escape death
it's all coping mechanism
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>>15100371
Hierarchy isn't natural and that is the core issue.
Nobody ever defined what might is so it's used for dishonest arguments.
Actual nature is when you die and the issue is resolved, any interaction between people is social and not natural.
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>>15100356
so existence is the actual problem and i need to kill myself? But y is existence a problem tho? i feel like its the most importance thing in the world even non existence comes thru existence, which inevitably comes anyway so y speed it up. Not to mention the endless gamut of possibilities existence provide in all manner of ways. Even miserablest existence is more valuable just cuz of its possibilities and finitude.
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>>15100371
>it's all coping mechanism
i mean not all but still

>>15100373
oh everything is natural
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>>15100378
It doesn't have to be a problem, it's not good or bad, it's just a sign that you haven't applied might to resolve your existence (eg suicide).
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>>15100379
No. Almost nothing is natural, just death is, any social interaction or higher order activity is unnatural.
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>>15100380
what is might tho? and y existence needs to be resolved if its not a problem? if suicide is a expression of might, then death is inevitable anyway, a superior expression will be to live forever or to prolong is as much as u can.
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>>15100387
That is the retard reasoning, the correct solution is to kill yourself, or take actions which accelerate it eg peak oil.
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>>15100284
The only people who read him are pretentious retards trying to sound smart
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>>15100383
everything is natural
so is life
struggling to survive is nature
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>>15100297
And yet he refused to attend his sisters wedding because she married an anti-semite lol what a fag
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>>15100392
Retard reasoning, which I expect from pol.
Also "feeling power" and death are not a contradiction, you can die annihilating libs.
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>>15100388
nah u didnt provide any reason for suicide, i mean we r all dying anyway, weather we will it or not. what we can will is existence and thats where expression of might really matters.
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>>15100396
sorry not sure to understand what you're saying can't follow
i almost never browse that hell of a board btw
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>>15100400
But if you quit your pointless retail job, capitalism will collapse. Prolonging your existence is your definition of power.
If you want to "feel power" you can go outside and grab a power line.
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>>15100403
See >>15100404
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>>15100404
so power is death is wat u saying? yea i can see that but just inevitability and abundance of death makes it like the final boss of life. What u r saying is give in to final boss. How about overcome it or at least fight it till u cant, that sounds more powerful to me. In the grand scheme of things death is super abundant, life is rarer and precious, plus death is also only possible thru life.
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>>15100422
Life is extremely abundant and unsustainable, and will die of peak oil. Accelerating societal collapse is the hard thing for this retard board to do.
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>>15100425
look at space nigga, that mutherfuker is death as fuk. U got one tiny dot to live on and one tiny millisecond to live for, which by some miracle or sheer chance someone pulled off and ur bitchass want to take that away too. U boring mutherfuker. At least let the show go on a for as long at it can go, watch till the end.
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>>15100438
There is no "show" anymore besides mutt subhumanity but whatever.
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I jsut cringe at neetcheean threads
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>>15100284
If the slaves win it means they were strong and their masters were weak all along.
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>>15101446
Yep, /his/sies can spend months debating haploautism or if greeks were gay or not, hearing these nergins opine about actual philosophy is just embarassing.
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>>15100284
He wanted a moral introspection into the past, where we can reflect the dichotomy of our current fundamental ethics in it's contextual setting. The book is aptly titled the Genealogy of Morals. I'm guessing you are referencing because of the slave and hierarchy and all that.

He wanted the people love living in the present, as if it was eternally returning. It's a massive read and he couldn't fully unify his ideas but thats a very rough jist of it.
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>>15100332
Is that why he loved Poles? 10% of Poland-Lithuania consistent of szlachta and serfs were freed. They were free and democratic more than any other country in Europe at the time, until they were shackled by tyrants who strictly followed fake man made hierarchies (szlachta could be pretty much anyone as long as you were brave enough, while German and Russian nobility status was much more strict)
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>>15102166
He also calls Germans a blond teuton beast. It's hilarious
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weird because poland has more blonde hair.
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>>15100297
Midwit takes. This board is so pointless lol
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>>15102461
Midwit
https://academic.oup.com/liverpool-scholarship-online/book/17053/chapter-abstract/174373493?redirectedFrom=fulltext



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