Even Catholic Answers is admitting that in reality transubstantiation isn't real.>Question:>How can someone who is a vegetarian receive Communion since transubstantiation changes the host into Christ’s body and blood?>Answer:>While it is true that the bread and wine are transubstantiated into the body and blood of Christ, the appearances of bread and wine remain. All that is perceptible to the senses are what is called the accidents of bread and wine. That means that we are not consuming Christ in such a manner that a vegetarian could not receive the Eucharist.https://www.catholic.com/qa/how-can-someone-who-is-a-vegetarian-receive-communion-since-transubstantiation-changes-the-0
>>14776325Aristotelian logic was a mistake.
>>14776325it takes a vegetarian for them to see how wrong it is and not the fact it's fucking cannibalism
>>14776325>It's vegetarian because it doesn't taste like meat, but it's still meatAm I too stupid to understand the logic here?
>>14776325ah yes, cstholicanswers. most dogma defining source in history of Catholicism.
>>14776432They are right though, the substance literally does not change, so transubstantiation isn't real
>>14776440They're literally saying that the substance changes but the accident doesn't. It's a view derived from Aristotelian hylomorphism, which has been a dominant view among Catholics since Aquinas.Don't get me wrong, I think hylomorphism is retarded and the way the RCC uses it even more so, but they've been very consistent on this point.
I used to think Catholics were the least insane Christians until I learned that they UNIRONICALLY believe the bread and wine is no-shit actual flesh and blood Like bro you can’t metaphor that BS away
>>14776612The substance is the flesh and blood of Christ, the ACCIDENTS remain that of wine and bread.Read categories by Aristotle.
>>14776612orthodox and even proper lutherans and anglicans also believe that
catholic answers is a semi-trad publication in the US, they are to the right of Francis but to the left of traditional catholics. they try to appeal to normies. so you're not getting proper, serious answers most of the times. obviously we can dismiss this question. howeveri don't really see why vegetarians would have a problem with eating human flesh (if we simplify what the Eucharist is). the vegetarians for ethical reasons object against animal suffering because of farming, cruelty, etc, surely they're not dumb enough to compare the free gift of Our Lord to us in the same category. the vegetarians for health reasons also can't have objections, because it's literally impossible to become ill from the Eucharist, as long as you're not in a state of mortal sin.
>>14776960>it's just an accident it doesn't actually happen bro
>>14777074Well everything is 'christ incarnate' so in that sense this is true
>>14777088if a table loses a leg, does it stop being a table?
>>14777107Yes you fucking retard. Try using a table with only three legs.
>>14777131you stupid fuck
>>14777171Says the nigger whose dinner keeps falling on the floor.
>>14777181>buy table with 6 legs>lose one leg>can still eat dinner>this confuses and enrages the pr*testants
>>14777238You're analogy is just retarded anyways. Literally 0% of the bread and wine turn into flesh and blood
>>14777284The Bible disagrees with you
>>14777300Matthew 2627 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.Looks like Jesus after blessing it and calling it his blood, then refers to it as the "fruit of the vine", because it is literally still wineCope all you want cannibal
>>14777312if only we had other gospels or perhaps letters from St. Paul clarifying that passage... oh wait
>>14777325>copelol24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.Lmao, even Paul is also then referring to it as breadCope all you want you cannibal, it's not literal because it literally doesn't happen.
>>14777341so glad everyone else in christianity was wrong for 1800 years until american schizos came alonggo "baptize" people over zoom meetings on their own bathrooms, fucking prot.
>>14777345>so glad everyone else in christianity was wrong for 1800 years until american schizos came alonglmao, fucking cope>go "baptize" people over zoom meetings on their own bathrooms, fucking prot.All baptisms in my church have been in person, so not sure what you're talking about, retard. And any "church" that did that is then wrong
>>14777352Why is cracker Jesus so weird to someone who believes that devil planted dinosaur bones in the ground?
>>14777363the devil didn't plant dinosaur bones, "dinosaurs" walked with humans before the flood. what kind of theory of creatonism are you reading?
>>14776325This just proves that reformed prots and Papists have the same beliefs on the Eucharist. If it’s bread and wine then it can’t be the body and blood. Why can’t they just believe that is means is. You don’t need Aristotelian thinking to figure this out.
>>14777374>"dinosaurs" walked with humans before the flood
>>14777397can men get pregnant?
>>14777387The bible never says it's flesh and blood
>>14777402>my retarded beliefs are true because people I disagree with have other retarded beliefs
>>14777413Why don't any creationists believe men can get pregnant or women have penises? Why do evolutionists know so much less about basic biology?
>>14777413you are appealing to people in charge of the scientific community to make fun of people who dont believe in evolution, and climate change. why are you now saying men being pregnant is retarded? are you one of those crazy creationists?
>>14777363>Why is cracker JesusBecause it literally isn't>ho believes that devil planted dinosaur bones in the ground?Where did I say that?Dinosaurs existed and just went extinct like many other animals>>14777397ah, yeah. Do you not believe God created man and the animals on day six, like the Bible says?>>14777423>Why do evolutionists know so much less about basic biology?amen honestly. Those faggots say that "evolution is the backbone of biology" (even though Aristotle is considered the father of biology, not Darwin), then say that trannies are real women