How the hell did the US go from 1950s tradwives and traditional protestant values to this shit in just 10 years? How the hell did it happen so fast? Did every boomer just wake up one day and decide they wanted to be promiscuous drugged out degenerates?
>>14766116They weren't Chuds like you.
>>14766116Communist infiltration of academia and the "peace" movement.
>>14766133Okay, but why did it take only 10 years for that shit to kick in?
>>14766116>1950s tradwives and traditional protestant valuesPeople who say this have never had either of these things and never will.
>>14766116Like the american phrase goes by its founders, in just one generation you can lose the country. So revolutions through violence were meant to happen, and only the moral and upright were supposed to win because there is a God (anti-homosexuality God, too) that is in control that makes it so. Not degenerates pushing abortion and homosexuality.
>>14766133CIA dindu nuffin.
>>14766138most people didnt go to school past elementary until the 30's, college was a huge communal fuckpile full of Jews telling teaching them about nihilism and drugs
>>14766116>How the hell did the US go from 1950s tradwives and traditional protestant values to this shit in just 10 years?How can you fucking faggots complain about this shit while posting on a website like this? Kill yourselves.
>>14766157CIA dindu nuffin.
>>14766116How the hell did California go from voting by a majority against gay marriage in 2008, to being aggressively in favor of homosexuality and transgenderism in less than 10 years?
> tradwives and traditional protestantThe only problem in this thread is a retard that thought America and Christianity is only Catholic or Prot and nothing about purity of believers in Jesus.
>>14766171When Reagan granted amnesty to millions of beaners and flipped the state blue overnight. That's why I vote republican. It's the white man's party.
>>14766166What does oil have to do with colleges being full of commie jew teachers?
>>14766181>When Reagan granted amnesty to millions of beaners and flipped the state blue overnight.Reagan was president in the 1980s though. I'm talking about 2008.In 2008, literally just 15 years ago, the state of California, fucking CALIFORNIA, voted by a slim but comfortable majority of 52% to make gay marriage illegal in their state.Less than a decade later, gay marriage was forcibly made legal across the entire USA via the Supreme Court, and at that point gay marriage started to be treated as some inalienable and ancient right that the vast majority of people support by default.It's just completely insane to me. I don't understand how the values of a culture can change so drastically and so quickly, seemingly overnight. Even today you can speak to people who will act like being against gay marriage is some 1950s hyper-conservative thing, even though fucking Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton still opposed it just over a decade ago.
>>14766198CIA dindu nuffin.
>>14766213what do the masons have to do with colleges being full of commie jew teachers?
brain damage from lead
>>14766207>I don't understand how the values of a culture can change so drastically and so quickly, seemingly overnight90% of people support status quo and go along with whatever the authority says. >authority says it's illegal = I guess gay marriage is bad, I stand for traditional values, that one flamboyant guy in the neighborhood always rubbed me the wrong way anyway>authority says it's legal = oh I guess it's good now, and to be honest I always kinda supported it, I'm not a bigot and that one gay guy I know seems normal enoughIt's really that simple. If a dictator couped the government tomorrow, 90% of the people you know would shift from>America is all about freedom and I cherish the opportunities and rights afforded to me here. I believe in universal civil rights including free speech, the right to protest, etc.to>Finally we have some strong effective government. I'm so glad mr. generalissimo cracked down on those law breakers and broke all the political deadlock. He went too far when he shot those protestors but what are you gonna do, can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs am I right?in the span of about a month
>>14766207The ability of normies to retcon their own thoughts, beliefs and behavior as if they never happened and truly believe it is their most despicable trait.
>>14766116Using the word "traditional" marks you as a shill. Every wedding planner will say it's "traditional" to spend a year's income on your wedding, for obvious reasons. What you call "traditional" has barely ever existed anywhere.
>>14766328It's horrifying. They talk about shit like Darwin awards and believe that people they dislike shouldn't reproduce but also think that eugenics is evil. They'll insult peoples appearances but turn around and claim that looks don't matter. Even "redpilled" people are normalfags without even realizing it, notice how /pol/ and leftist forums spend so much time talking about how their enemies will face the wall once their ideology wins?
>>14766116I believe it was the fault of “sexual liberation”. A wave of hedonism swept the country, and an epidemic of drug use ensued.
>>14766171Easy. US establishment has saw the Occupy movement. So they decided to take control over it and use it to preserve their rule. This is the basic strategy called "recuperation and appropriation". As if you've never read Guy Debord
>>14766116I'm going to blame the invention of the suburbia.
>>14766207>voted by a slim but comfortable majority of 52% to make gay marriage illegal in their state.The margin came from the socially conservative black church ladies who turned out en masse to vote for Obama but weren’t down with the gay stuff. The Dems tried to blame some advertising campaign by the Mormons rather than face the truth.
>>14766295>>14766207you're wrong. in Brazil 90% of the people hate faggots but politicians and media are determined to force them on us anyway. don't ever assume your pozzed ruling class represents the will of the people.
>>14766141/thread
>>14766141this
ww2 generation was perfectly fine with the 50s after having gone through ww2 and the great depression, their dipshit boomer kids were the one who ruined everything by becoming hippies and crying about giving negroes rights
>>14766141>THIS SO MUCH THIS!!! I LOVE THIS!
>>14768439The first boomers hit 18 in 1964, which is the same year as the civil rights act, they were a tiny voting bloc in the 60s. Although boomers are to blame for a lot of what happened after, they are more a product of changes that had already taken place. We probably have to look back to the effect of the first world war centralizing government, women's suffrage and the new deal for answers.
>>14768346I should have asked but at what point did fucking a poop filled hole become a religion for the elite class?
>>14766116>How the hell did the US go from 1950s tradwives and traditional protestant values to this shit in just 10 years?exactly those protestant "values", probably.
>>14766157>>14766133Radical left movements in the US were most powerful c. 1900-1920 and 1932-47. Communists were in deep shit once the Cold War began.
>>14768586also forgetting 2009-16 and 2021 to present
>>14766116Cucktianity has no spine
>>14766116>>14766138Lead deficiency, they started fortifying food with iron in the 40s which prevents its utilization, anyone born since then was fucked in the head.
>>14766116Hippie were a loud minority, the majority were still loyal to traditional values. Most Whites even disapproved of race-mixing until the 90s.
>>14766141What are you talking about? Married people skew right, unmarried skew left.
>>14766116Your vision of 1950s America is a ridiculous meme from fucking advertisements lmao. In reality, it wasn't that different.
>>14766116unironically jews lol. perfectly placed propaganda. capture of media, institutions, etc..it only takes one generation to change a culture.
>>14766116America was the most socially liberal country on Earth in the 1950s, the "godless communists" included. It was a country that hailed Alfred Kinsey, a literal pedophile apologist and the intellectual forefather of the sexual liberation movement, as a scientific superstar and where even the conservative religious denominations were campaigning for legalized abortion.
>>14768636Socialist (not socdem) officials were elected to a lot of local offices back in the early part of the century. There's no parallel.
>>14768874They showed those families in all of their advertisements because that's what people wanted to see, and that's who they were trying to sell to. Compare ads back then to the ones you see today and the contrast is clear.
>>14769014The biggest difference is fewer non-white people.
>>14766116Cold War psychological warfare. America defeated the USSR economically but they pulled the US down with them. It's just a matter of time. America should have never inserted itself into European conflicts
>>14766116this is a /pol/ thread please go back
>>14766151>>14766166>LE OILLLL ITS ALL ABOUT LE OIL LE MONEYlisten you fucking chimp, they were at the head of the largest arsenal on the planet, could conduct wars entirely in secret, and could print money till the end of time.Why the fuck do you think they cared about oil more than geopolitics?Oil is a resource, it is an important one.But the formation of JSOC and the complete overturn of the CIA FBI and SS into an arm of ZOG that has nothing to do with Oil and everything to do with seeking endless power.
>>14769041Explain in what way liberals and conservatives actually are right and left-wing respectively.
>>14766116Because the 1950s retards stopped hitting their kids and gave them the "freedom" to act like that.
>>14766116Because white women in the 1960s and 1970s were the hottest of all time for some reason
>>14766116The Vietnam War is how it happened. The draft in particular is what drove the younger generation bonkers. They didn't want to be forcibly sent to fight and die in a war they didn't believe in or particularly care about. Becoming hippies and embracing the counterculture movement was their way of rebelling against the system. Aspects of the movement these people created (one of left-wing rebellion against traditional American society and values) has lingered on ideologically in academia, politics (Democrats), etc. The ongoing damage it has caused to America right up to the present day has been catastrophic. It could be argued that the greatest damage that war caused the nation was not the blood and treasure we squandered but rather this quasi-Marxist ideology which lingers on to this day and continues to undermine and erode the nation from within.
>>14766116Becasue WASPs create culturally dead landscapes, and before you meme on me I mean they intentionally stifle anything that isn't serving to make them feel comfortable, it inherently leads to a negative feedback loop where their culture can't expand or grow
>>14771248>Democrats = left wing hippiesWhat a fucking retard. You could only be an electiontourist from Parker to believe this. Not even the most bad faith poltard would embarrass themselves like that.
>>14766116the "tradwives" weren't as "trad" as you think, zoomer
>>14766141
your government figured out how to stop the people causing problems for them
>>THIS SO MUCH THIS!!! I LOVE THIS!
>>14772505People still do all those things.
>>14771248Things were starting to go off the rails before the US committed to Vietnam. The first flag-burning protests started in the summer of 1964, but American troops did not start arriving in Vietnam until spring of 1965.
>>14772520The difference is nice dudes like me aren't included anymore.
>>14772520Not as many families as there used to be, most marriages end in divorce, rates of mental illness keep going up, people are poorer than ever.
>>14772525True but the war and especially the draft is what really turbocharged the movement.
>>14766116Because the United States, from the very beginning, represented a radical break from traditional values, and thus what we have now is simply a natural consequence of the philosophies on which the nation was founded being taken to their natural conclusion. The idea that the 1950s nuclear family ideal represents the pinnacle of traditional values is a lie - by the 1950s the rot was far beyond terminal, and the decades that followed simply pulled the veneer away.
Kek, the modern American is so sheltered he can't understand the effect staring death in the face has on people. When the U.S. Government calls upon us to go die in Taiwan, you'll understand.
>>14773658uniron would die for that island over this godforsaken continent.
>>14773677Go join the U.S. Army like I did. You'll become grateful for whatever freedoms we have here so fucking quick. This country is worth dying for, but this government is absolutely not.
>>14773687the freedoms are nice but its the people man. regardless of political spectrum whole things fucked and the cancer here is spreading throughout the western world slowly. at least one can go to remote area and live ones life while things burn still but how long before that is gone too?
>>14773713You're seriously overreacting. You watch too much CNN/Fox News. The American people are still mostly working men and women who just want peaceful lives. We're gonna be fine.
The real redpill is realizing that the 20s and 30s were just as chaotic, sex crazed, and polarized as the 60s were. The 50s were a temporary moment of order created by the GI generation all having gotten buzz cuts and boot camp. The boomers just think that the 60s were the most important decade ever because they happen to be the most self obsessed Americans ever.
>>14766141Damn this post ruffled some feathers
>>14766116CIA
>>14767311"Occupy was subverted" is the dumbest meme ever. Literally everyone at Occupy believed that homosexuality is good, racism is the most important issue in the world, Republicans are evil, etc. The original organizers of the protest were the owners of a communist magazine. I mean do you really think that the Civil Rights Movement began in 2011?
>>14772527(you) wouldn't be included in the past either
>>14766116I hate the Cold War so much... and Jews.
>>14766141Isn't that the point? Those things are gone and were replaced with vapid Judaic values.
>>14766116General lack of trust in government especially after your president was just shot and replaced by LBJ that fully endorsed a very unpopular war that you were more then likely going to be in sooner or later.I think I’d rather protest get pussy take drugs and listen to rock music aswell.
>>14772525Still has a fuckload of advisers and pilots in active combat roles even before 65
>>14767250It truly is both “sides” of the retarded political spectrum spout the same kind of rhetoric but the colors a switched and act like they are the last bastions of freedom when in reality they are both complacent in a massive grift by the powers that be
It was a rebellion against WASP culture specifically.
Have you considered that it's the people who claimed everything was perfect and """""trad"""" in the 1950s who were lying to you?
Imagine telling you that slavery is evil and should be condemned and then the same institutions enslaving you and sending you to die on some Island just so that people who own defense industry stock can profit from your death.It's literally what happened. I believe in just war but drafting randos with a system where the profit motive incentivizes it is bizarre.
>>14766141Read On the Road by Jack Keronac.
>>14775350fedpost
>>14775350People were there because of the economic downturn and foreclosures which had affected so many, they did think gay good racism bad, but that was not why they were there. Your image came long after the "we are the 99%" rhetoric when people started printing newspapers, as well as setting up speakers, stands, wifi and other gimmicks to advertise whatever movement they were from. The groups providing these expensive facilities would prevent certain groups from using them and quickly came to dominate dialogue, making it about identity politics (women and minorities) and toning down talk about economics and bank reform (typically white men).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W81A1kTXPa4
>>14766127fpbp
>>14768874Except there are literally videos and interviews from that time period that show the same things as le soap advertisements.
>>14766138boomers were born after WW2so if born in 1950 you'd be 18 in 1968. they were spoiled brats who were cuddled by their mommies
>>14777520>The groups providing these expensive facilities would prevent certain groups from using them and quickly came to dominate dialogue, making it about identity politics (women and minorities) and toning down talk about economics and bank reformNTA but come on, the places that were "occupied" were basically all universities or public areas close to universities, and the people doing the "occupying" were the exact same crowd of "permanent activists" (i.e. middle class university students and anardruggie losers in an endless cycle of minwage shitjobs) with enough spare time to spend protesting without any serious detriment to their previous lifestyle. And guess what, those types of people overwhelmingly support idpol shit over muh economics.Yeah people were seething about the banks getting bailed out but the people protesting weren't the blue-collar schlubs that still had to turn up to work.
>>14778342They also show the less pleasant things. Strict parents, a more lax attitude towards spousal or child abuse, drunk driving, and misogyny, fear of nuclear war, workplace and consumer hazards, and teachers who could physically punish or humiliate kids.
>>14771248>which lingers on to this day and continues to undermine and erode the nation from withinAt this point there isn't really anything left to erode.
Turns out that your 50s nuclear trad family was a complete disaster
>>14766207Because Western culture no longer insists upon itself. We have taken to assuming that our norms are just the natural state of humanity and not something built up over centuries. Why would one bother resisting a campaign to make fire not burn? Burning is the natural state of fire, the campaign is doomed to failure. Why would one bother resisting a campaign to make humans servile, degenerate, bug-people? Western liberalism is the natural state of humanity, such a campaign is surely just as doomed to failure, right?
>>14766116fifties conservatism was not the norm, before the war and the great depression there was a lot of social liberalism floating around but all the chaos caused a backlash. Naturally that backlash faded with time.
>>14773687>Go join the U.S. Army like I didThey don't want me
>>14766116Holy crap this thread is still up!
>>14766116>How the hell did the US go from 1950s tradwives and traditional protestant values to this shitBecause they were raised by 1950s tradwives and traditional protestant values
>>14766116Yes
>>14772520It's factually true that not as many can do those things anymore. It's factually true that the divorce rates are way worse now. It's factually true that both men and women (especially women) are unhappier now than in the past. It's factually true that we have half of the testosterone that our grandparents had.
>>14778481>strict parents>fear of nuclear warThe former is good, the latter is natural
>>14773653THISalso>nobody mentioned flappers>nobody mentioned beatniks>nobody mentioned jazz era>nobody mentioned weimarperfection is something that only exist in fantasy my dearest poltard
>>14766116Anon, that's just the natural and logical conclusion of your "traditional protestant values".
Everyone in this thread is ignoring the advent of the contraceptive pill, and a bit later on, Roe vs Wade>Its easy to be promiscuous when you dont run the risk of having children.>Its easy to join the workforce when you dont run the risk of having children. >I'd also posit that capitalism inreasingly seems to promote the idea that each person is a special unique individual, instead of part of a wider community. >In a globalised world, to feel special and noticed, one must seek ever more unique ways to define oneself.
>>14774852cope for your opinion being retarded
>>14785219This doesn't really fit with the facts. Condoms and caps were prevalent around the 1890s and fertility rates started to drop.Then there are women like Margaret Thatcher, a greengrocer's daughter raised in old school liberal Anglo values, she went to Oxford University, in the 1940s, became a scientist, a tax lawyer, a mother of 2 children, was elected member of parliament and later became prime minister and she never needed, quote, "women's lib". It is perfectly possible for a woman to maintain traditional values, have children and a career, if it was possible back them, it is certainly possible now, they simply choose not to.This same defeatist nihilism also affects men who are now a shadow of what they were in the 19th century. Who would want to start a family with some funkopop collecting søyboy? Reigniting those values would be far easier since the modern lifestyle is far more luxurious, safe and clean, however comforts and ease are addictive.Any drive to do so is entirely driven by ego or placing your faith in some greater ideal, which is what the r*Dditors here often attack, they argue we are entitled or superstitious. However wanting something is not the same as expecting it, and if you don't believe in something, you believe in nothing, you end up søygaping with your nintendo switch on instagram. You have to wonder why there is a massive propaganda campaign to demoralize us and deter us from achieving any kind of success in life.
>>14785290lol'demoralization' is such a cuck whining pointimagine being sad because we have luxurious lifeor because le bunch of nobodies dare to have a different opinion about lifestyle ideals and all that crapsuch people probably would off himself in actual hard timesthey talk big about values and successbut in the end are slaves to cheap external validationand give up because they are literally to insecureif they aren't backed up by all societyand like thousands years of traditionand made up religion bullshit god delusion on to of thatbasically have no heart or courage to actually life a decent lifethat they want
It was baked into the TV dinners those happy tradmoms were serving up to Suzy and Bobby. Mom and Dad had lived through years of economic depression and world war, and were just relieved to be grilling in the back yard. They begat a massive cohort of spoiled children who, apart from the angst of potential nuclear war, lived lives of privilege unknown in human history. All their desires were catered to, with an explosion of toys and consumer goods, and new forms of media to entertain them. When these kids came of age, their enchanted boomer lives continued, but now with adult pleasures enhanced by drugs and the Pill.There had been bohemian subcultures in the U.S. since the mid 19th century but this was a massive demographic fueled by unimaginable consoomerism. The 1920s Jazz Age was the first time this sort of thing hit the mainstream but the boomers and their decadent pop culture dominance over the decades will never be replicated.
>>14785641I really feel like Boomers lived the most comfortable lives Human beings will EVER have. The future for Humanity now is either collapse or a slow drift away into an Orwelling dystopia but the freak 1950-1990 era of comfort experienced by Boomers in Western countries is never, ever, coming back.The planet is too polluted and overpopulated, the demographics have changed, the world economy is more unequal, and the balance of power has shifted to the East where an Orwellian police state of bugmen will be running the world pretty soon.Boomers had the most spoiled childhoods in Human history, rebelled against the culture of their parents by becoming hippie leftists, then when they had money embraced "greed is good" and hollowed out the industrial base of the West with outsourcing to increase profits and get cheap consumer goods and now will extract the last ounce of wealth left for their pensions until they gracelessly expire, leaving behind the ruin of Western civilization.
rapid jewish subversion
>>14766116Atheism
>>14780313This above all else. The universalism of liberal ideology defanged and disabled people in the West from pursuing any sort of excellence or drive in the public sphere, simply assuming that time will inexorably show that everyone will want the same liberal order as the West. This in turn meant that almost everyone in the west handed the baton to the leftists, who remained as the only group motivated to enact any social change through action as they are explicitly anti-liberal and thus anti Western.Liberalism in its current guise has to either be dismantled completely or stripped of its weaknesses and remade into a culture of civic duty underpinned by ethnic and national identity - globalism must wither and die since it doesn't work for local needs.
>>14766116The US didn't change. The Internet became an outlet for the degenerates to reveal their true colors, because their views were not tolerated IRL. In the 50’s, they were forced to be decent-minded human beings with healthy values. Now, they can just create a thousand alt accounts after being “cancelled” on Twitter.
>>14766181Beaners are Catholics. If Republicans weren't retarded they would have capitalized on this conservatism and monopolized the hispanic vote. But because of the retarded liberterian, big business, and xenophobic/racist elements of the party, they had to make enemies out of them. Even with this, 30-40% of hispanics vote Republican. Castizo futurism is your future, white man. There is no other option.
>>14787136Access to White people isn't a human right.
>>14766116Urbanization. It was only when the majority of Americans were raised in an urbanized environment did this occur. The Vietnam War was the catalyst for this major social change, but it was gradually trending that way.
>>14787148If that is your party platform then at least do it successfully. Since you can't, I'm simply giving you the option of a big booty Latina or two as compared to total replacement. It isn't so bad, and not so different from you being a mongrel of different Europeans who once hated each other.
