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Jesus is not Immanuel and the virgin birth is myth.

>Matthew 1
All this took place to fulfill what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: 23 “Look, the virgin shall become pregnant and give birth to a son,and they shall name him Immanuel,” which means, “God is with us.”

>Isaiah 7
14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Look, the young woman is with child and shall bear a son and shall name him Immanuel. 15 He shall eat curds and honey by the time he knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good. 16 For before the child knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land before whose two kings you are in dread will be deserted.


“Immanuel” was a child born in 700 BCE, to be used as a sign for King Ahaz, to let him know that “God was with him”, and when his two enemy kingdoms would come to an end. The sign is not the birth, but it is when they see the child is “eating curds and honey” as a sign of the economy having overabundance, because Judea’s enemies are defeated. It has nothing to do with Jesus.

The author of the Gospel of Matthew just used the Isaiah 7:14 verse out of context as an excuse to push his virgin birth lie, to give a way for Jesus to be the Logos come to Earth.

Dual-Prophecy is just cope.
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>>14529519
Go back to /x/ after you take your meds.
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>>14529519
>The author of the Gospel of Matthew just used the Isaiah 7:14 verse out of context as an excuse to push his virgin birth lie
The word almah can mean both virgin and young woman.

Why do atheists keep repeating this dumb point?
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>>14529534
You took the bait.
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>>14529519
"There is no God but Jesus Christ, and Joseph Smith Jr is his messenger."
-- Brigham Young, 1st Governor of Utah
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>>14529534
Where did I mention the word used for virgin you fucking retard? Isaiah 7 is a prophecy for the time of King Ahaz, not 700 years in the future. Why can’t theists comprehend this point?
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>>14529525
>Debunks supernatural virgin birth claim
>No, it’s real! Take your meds!
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>>14529684
lmao. christcuck op the schizo. haha
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>>14529684
>debunks
Using the bible to debunk stuff is like using the phonebook for divination.
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>>14529519
Yahya the Father and cousin Isa the Son, missed the December and June solstices. The Holy Ghost was pissed. Elisabeth's fault and Mary's fault.
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>>14529541
This is not bait. This is really.

Jesus was not born of a virgin and is not God.
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>>14529892
No, shit sherlock. Finally graduate middle school?
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>>14529889
>cousin Isa the Son

What
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>>14529892
Goddesses are the Gods
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>>14529897
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>>14529901
God fucked THAT?!
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>>14529901
Blessed Virgin Elisabeth Magdalene
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>>14529906
No, god is imaginary and that is a drawing.
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>>14529906
John Yahya Baptist fuck them both. He's the Father of Jesus Isa Christ.
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>>14529925
2 virgins?!
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>>14529929
Johnny B is the Holy Ghost
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>>14529892
Going to hell
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>>14529971
Hail Satan
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>>14529922
the imaginary is "i", mathematicians proved the imaginary >>>/sci/
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>>14529901
I'd fuck her.
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maybe if you check the stars at 0 CE youll find what you dont see

>2 Now after Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, [a]wise men from the East came to Jerusalem, 2 saying, “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him.”

Kepler believed in some aspects of astrology, the influence of the planets for example. He deduced this front his ideas about physics. He neglected other aspects of astrology. e.g. the significance of the zodiac. In 1604 Kepler observed a new star and believed in a connection to a special and very rare planetary conjunction. After a Jupiter-Saturn-conjunction Jupiter met Mars. Kepler speculated that the star of Bethlehem might be a new star which was generated after a similar conjunction and recalculated it for 6/7 BC. Nowadays examples of both astronomical (and astrological) interpretations of the star of Bethlehem exist. The best known is the three time conjunction of 6/7 BC. But the interpretation of Martin (1980) for 213 BC seems equally excellent. Vardaman (1989) takes the Halley comet of 12 BC to be the star of Bethlehem. Other speculations arise from two Novae in the years 5 and 4 BC, tabulated in sources from the Far East. But historians tell us that there is no need fo a real star. The text in Matthew, book 2 is a legend. What is important in regard to the understanding of the star of Bethlehem is the "sidus Julium" the comet which could be seen in the sky during Caesar's funeral and the match of the King of Armenia Tiridates to Nero in Rome during. There was no real star over Bethlehem. All we have are interesting speculations, like those by Kepler.
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>>14530000
"i" squared is -1, sqrt of -1 is "i", the imaginary.
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>>14530007
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>>14530021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvDTCKkimm8
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>>14529676
>Isaiah 7 is a prophecy for the time of King Ahaz
Source? I know Isaiah 7 doesn't refer to Christ but I never heard any claim it was about Ahaz.

>>14529889
>>14530007
>>14530021
Aw sweet, a schizo thread
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>>14529929
They're multiplying.
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>>14530051
revelations point to 6/1/6 and 6/6/6

not my fault if you havent studied a thing and think its cool to call everything "schizo" just because youre too ignorant for knowledge
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>>14530059
I don't understand what you are trying to say. You just post sky maps and think it has some greater theological significance. Doesn't the Bible warn against astrology?
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>>14529971
The proof is right here >>14529519

No longer have to be afraid.
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>>14530119
All of the OT is pre-figurative to the ultimate victory of God in Jesus on the cross
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>>14530153
Holy Cope
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>>14530119
>No longer have to be afraid.
We no longer have to be afraid thanks to Jesus, fren. God has blessed the earth.
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>>14530157
Jesus wasn’t Immanuel. So that means Matthew lied and tried to distort the prophecy, so the New Testament has lost all credibility.
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>>14530157
Christianity is all a lie and should be rejected. Didn’t Genesis show that a lie is the greatest evil?
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>>14530184
It's all just stories bunded together, Christoids try to convince you it's all connected but it's not. I honest have more respect for the texts knowing the background of each book and why it was written than anything you hear in church.
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>>14529519
Show bobs and vagene.
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>>14529618
There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger."
-- Yahya and Isa
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>>14530051
How cute. A sub-creature.

G-D
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>>14529519
I doubt Matthew wrote the virgin birth narrative. He wouldn't have traced Jesus' paternal genealogy to Abraham if he intended Jesus to be descended from a virgin instead of Joseph. It is more likely that Matthew wrote that Jesus was a descendant of David through Joseph his father, then someone interpolated the virgin birth narrative at the end of chapter, this same person probably added the passages mentioning Tamar (whore), Rahab (whore), Ruth (gentile), and Bathsheva (adulteress) to justify why Jesus had to be descended from a virgin rather than from Joseph's bloodline.
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>>14531159
Jesus is Joseph's foster son by adoption, and adoption was a thing in the ancient world. The Romans did it plenty. The Son of God is adopted into the House of David, made a descendent by name, which closes the loop because the only reason the House of David even existed was because God raised David up to replace Saul. God adopted David first, and then David's descendent adopts God.



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