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What will eventually happen to Kaliningrad when russia collapses?

Germany gave up their claim to it decades ago during reunification negotiations

Poland and Lithuania don’t want it because there’s a ton of Russians living in it

Will it become some new mini country? Like an eastern Belgium?
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It will be still part of Russia,

And West can't annex it without making themselves look like hypocrites. The media and public will eat them alive.
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>>13986771
seethe ivan, eye by eye
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>>13986505
Why would European Russia collapse? There are over 100 million Ethnic Russians living there, and it is their native homeland.
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>>13986781
Even Siberia is mostly populated by Slavs, but Russians are not native to Siberia,
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>>13986505
It never should have been seeded to Russia in the first place after WWll, that's what happens when le greatest generation thought they can do whatever the fuck they wanted after getting high off defeating mean mustache man.
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>>13986807
Winners keepers. It belongs to Russia.
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>>13986815
Clearly it shouldn't, Russia has proven herself to be menace to European tranquility. Good on Lithuania refusing Kalingradshit because had they they'd be invaded in a special operation to le protect Russian minorities.

>Winners keepers
I can't wait for this logic to be flipped on it's head.
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>>13986505
Russia is rising at the moment, the West is too ideologically weak to stop it and they know it, which is why they decided now is the time to strike. Eventually they will simply link their lands up to Kaliningrad. China will be invading Taiwan as well.
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>>13986972
Russia is getting decimated by some shithole. They’d be doomed if they tried to take Poland lol
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>>13986980
>Russia is getting decimated by some shithole.
CNN is not your friend.
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>>13986980
You sound like an american friend of mine who was absolutely convinced that the West's sanctions against Russia would quickly see Crimea returned to Ukraine years ago.
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>>13986995
yeah Russia is winning so hard that they needed to DRAFT EVERYONE, something they said they wouldn't be doing
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>>13987042
You'll see.
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>>13987058
lmao
a twitch stream of a stove represents a symbolic victory for russiaboos

meanwhile
https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/german-gas-reserves-more-90-full-despite-russian-supply-cut
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>>13987094
Annexation is about to happen, and you'll be coping the next decade after that about how Russia will concede to the new sanctions any year now. In the meantime, your military will continue to be overrun by negroids and trannies, getting weaker all the time.
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>>13986505
It`s a shithole full of ecological desasters. Restoring it (if even possible) would take decades and would strain any nations economy. Not to mention that it is full of russians whom you would have to deport or eliminate.
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>>13986505
NWO will probably use it as a migrant importing center
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>>13986771
> The media and public will eat them alive.
The media and public do whatever their kike masters tell them to do, retard
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>>13987058
The stream went down because the dude got conscripted.

I can't think of a better metaphor for modern Russia than the gas stove staying alive for longer than the person using it.
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>>13987390
>The stream went down because the dude got conscripted.
proof?
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>>13986505
>Will it become some new mini country?
Yes, but it will go on to annex parts of Poland and the Baltics.
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>>13986505

Will become a city state.
Westernize, and become the Novgorod we never had
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>>13987058
>>13987390
>keeping the burning going through the war draft
Isn't this what Hanukkah was supposed to be about?
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>>13986505
Why do normies suddenly want everything to COLLAPSE?
>dude societal COLLAPSE
>due economical COLLAPSE
>this is just like my cyerpunks!
>dude this is the fall of rome fr
>dude theres going to be a 12-way civil war with a cursed anarchy phase
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>>13986771
>And West can't annex it without making themselves look like hypocrites
West doesn't want to annex it. The thing would become a new Transnistria.
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>>13986771
>>13988593
And nobody cares about hypocrisy or inconsistency in their own group. It's almost exclusively used to attack outgroups.
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>>13986505
Nothing much.
European russia is not likely to fracture, and kaliningrad will remain part of it. If european russia tries to mend relations to the west somewhat, it will probably be permanently demilitarized.
It should be understood that while it is surrounded by EU states, it is in fact a shithole even by russian standards. There is no potential for any sort of development there, it should be considered a piece of russian backwater transported onto the baltic shores.
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>>13986781
>There are over 100 million Ethnic Russians living there, and it is their native homeland.
This guy has some interesting threads, making the argument that ethnic Russian regions may actually (try to) secede:
https://nitter.net/kamilkazani/status/1548309404654612480#m
https://nitter.net/kamilkazani/status/1548694933275549697#m
https://nitter.net/kamilkazani/status/1552324765154611201#m

Keep in mind though, this guy is a separatist himself, so there's probably some bias/wishful thinking on his part.
Still, it's worth reading.
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>>13986972
>Russia is rising at the moment
GDP smaller than Spain, demographics amongst the worst in the world, military humiliated... in what sense is it 'rising'?
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>>13987390
>The stream went down because the dude got conscripted.
Look at this lying faggot
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>>13986980
Delusional retard
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>>13988933
Russia can't take on the poorest country in europe , how do you think they'd be any match for Poland?
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>>13988579
Paradox Interactive and its' consequences has been a disaster for humankind
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>>13988942
Tell me about the US in Somalia you dumb nigger.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED???
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>>13986505
If Russia collapses, it's way more likely that places like Chechnya or Tatarstan will become independent. Kaliningrad, unlike those places, has a russian majority population that doesn't have a reason to be independent from it's bretheren, especially in the moment of crisis as it's surrounded by western powers. I can only see it become independent when the collapse of Russia's institutions force it to become autonimious.
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