>Rhodesia becomes wealthy and prosperous >Rhodesia wants independence>UK says "ok but you gotta let the locals run the government">Rhodesia says "have you seen what these spearchuckers do when they're in power? No fucking way">War erupts>Rhodesian force easily out skilled the bushmen.>local darkies backed by chinese and russian communistsHow did they lose? Was it simply because UK refused to aid them?
IIRC only 5% of the Rhodesian population was white. Even a substantial minority of the black population joining the rebels was enough to keep the military busy essentially all the time and result in enough of a threat to the white civilian population to spark emigration.
Rhodesia is east germany for right wingers and baby first realpolitik encounter
>>12673137how are Whites so strong that like a few thousand of them turned black africa into a prosperous state?
>>12673142It wasn't a prosperous state, it was prosperous for a small, ethnically defined elite and the rest had pretty shit lives. Not that different from a lot of African states today, it's just that it had Anglos on top so westerners care and project.
>>12673142Careful now, you're gonna trigger the trannoid brigade.
>>12673129>Rhodesia becomes wealthy and prosperousWith the caveat that it was uber reliant on a massive underclass of Africans with no labour rights, massive land loss and polices of fucking over Africans to cater to the demands of the mining and farming industry. Wage ratio between Africans and whites was massive even with doing the same job.>Rhodesia wants independence>UK says "ok but you gotta let the locals run the government">Rhodesia says "have you seen what these spearchuckers do when they're in power? No fucking way"But those spearchuckers NEVER GOT INTO POWER IN RHODESIA. On top of that Rhodesia was basically propped up by Britain so to suddenly get bitchy towards an empire that bailed your ass, propped up your economic interests and is the SOLE reason you exist as an entity is settler entitlement 101.>War erupts>Rhodesian force easily out skilled the bushmen.Using massive force of Africans on top of a lot of their victories hinging ion African forces to supplement the dwindling pools of whites. >local darkies backed by chinese and russian communistsBecause those were the eons that woodlice fund them. If Mormons, Catholics and Norway were funding them it would be no different.
>>12673157>Not that different from a lot of African states today, it's just that it had Anglos on top so westerners care and project.Which westerners?
>>12673230Or you just making up a strawman to futilely attack? Rhodesia was criticized from many part of the world anon.
>>12673181faggots like OP
>>12673129Rhodesia lost because basically the entire world conspired against them, even their friends South Africa turned on them thinking they would get favorable treatment from the NWO (they were wrong)https://youtu.be/jlA-lmeUNhA>>12673162>But those spearchuckers NEVER GOT INTO POWER IN RHODESIA.They did though, it’s called Rhodesia and it’s one of the worst countries in the world and Mugabe was a sadistic and cruel dictator to levels that Ian Smith never even came close too Rhodesia didn’t suffer a military defeat either like you claim, even with human wave tactics. They lost a political power and their only survived bc Portuguese Angola and South Africa were their only friends and they eventually turned on them.
>>12673129>>local darkies backed by chinese and russian communistsGaddafi supported Mugabu and ZANU along with Nelson Mandela and the IRA.The IRA affiliated Gerry Adams was one of the pallbearers at Nelson Mandela's funeral.Why do you /pol/tards leave out the fact that Gaddafi backed blacks against white minority rule? is because you retards thought Gaddafi was a third positionist and you screamed at Hillary Clinton over bombing of Libya?
>>12673546Trump wanted to bomb Libya and kill Gaddafi both in 1987 (in an interview with Playboy magazine) and in early February 2011, before he realized his paleocon fanbase was made out of neo-nazi retards who thought Gaddafi was a based third positionist national socialist and that the bombing of Libya was done by anti-whites.Trump then denied he wanted to bomb Libya after that.Clinton was an idiot, she could have ran on a platform appealing to white supremacists by saying she took out Gaddafi and he backed blacks.
>>12673546Gaddafi was a retarded piece of shit who got what he deserved, you are right to call out poltards who worship him (he also said he would supply the Nation of Islam if they waged a war against white Americans btw) and the IRA are drug dealing terrorist. Both are part of the leftoid international faction of the Cold War so that doesnt at all contradict the fact that Russians and Chinese were the backers of ZANU and ZAPU
>>12673546>Gerry AdamsLiterally Basedddit, the politician
>>12673566>who got what he deservedNo he didn't. People far worse than Gaddafi got away with their crimes completely unscathed you piece of shit.
>>12673546Gadaffi offered Australian Aboriginals weapons and funds if they would wage war against Australia. He also supported Kanak natives in New Caledonia against French colonial rule in the Pacific Oceania region.
>>12673566Its not just poltards but also retards like Pat Buchanan and Tucker Carlson who proclaim themselves to be pro white anti-zionists and scream against Clinton over the bombing of Libya.
>>12673582Gaddafi was a shit leader who got killed by his own people and he made a career out of being a little piss ant faggot who would start shit with ANYONE and then whine about “imperialist aggression” the moment they retaliated.He was also a third world liberation anti-colonial and anti-white leftoid. Hopefully you are a leftist, but if you are any sort of right leaning person and you are still dick riding him because of vague conspiracy tard shot along with Gaddafis le wacky antics, then you are baby brained goober
>>12673592Also he supported the Basque ETA against Spain and the Communist New People's Army (NPA) against the Philippines.
>>12673592>>12673622Yeah, he supported or at least voice support for every single terrorist/rebel group you can think of. Then his own government collapses and he reaps what he Sows as the international community all join in on tea bagging him. And it was mainly France and Italy that fucked him up, America came later
>>12673546Iran as well.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93South_Africa_relationsSouth Africa and Iran share historical bilateral relations and the latter supported the South African liberation movements. It severed official relations with South Africa in 1979 and imposed a trade boycott in protest against the country's apartheid policies. However, in January 1994, Iran lifted all trade and economic sanctions against South Africa and diplomatic relations were reestablished on 10 May 1994. https://english.khamenei.ir/news/7744/When-did-Imam-Khomeini-let-out-the-cry-of-Black-Lives-Matter“I cannot breathe” is an apparently simple sentence that is being repeated millions of times these days with a new meaning. With every repetition, it reminds us of thousands of pages in the history of racial discrimination. This sentence was among the last words uttered by George Floyd and Eric Garner before their deaths while being chokehold under the ruthless boots of the American police. Now, it has turned into a symbol of the last words uttered by thousands of individuals who have been the victims of racial discrimination and who stop breathing under the boots of the American government without their demands and claims being heard by the international community. The thousands of Muslims murdered in anti-Arab and anti-Islamic wars waged by the US and Israel, and the thousands of Africans murdered and suppressed by the South African Apartheid regime, are merely a few examples of these horrific circumstances.http://en.imam-khomeini.ir/en/n36764/Cutting-ties-with-the-then-South-Africa-s-apartheid-regime-was-a-strategic-decision-by-ImaCutting ties with the then South Africa’s apartheid regime was a strategic decision by Imam: Seyyed Hassan KhomeiniSeyyed Hassan Khomeini says that the late founder of the Islamic Republic cut ties with apartheid regime of South Africa immediately after the victory of Islamic revolution in 1979.ID: 64608 04/06/2020
>>12673683Amerimutt white supremacists like Tucker Carlson, David Duke and Pat Buchanan claim the Iranian regime is for white interests. David Duke was a former KKK leader.
>>12673680Sarkozy's maternal grandfather was Jewish and he was President of France at the time.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_SarkozySarkozy was born in Paris, and is the son of Pál István Ernő Sárközy de Nagy-Bócsa[note 1] (Hungarian: nagybócsai Sárközy Pál; [ˈnɒɟboːt͡ʃɒi ˈʃaːrkøzi ˈpaːl] (audio speaker iconlisten)—in some sources Nagy-Bócsay Sárközy Pál István Ernő), (born 5 May 1928), a Protestant Hungarian aristocrat, and Andrée Jeanne "Dadu" Mallah (12 October 1925 – 12 December 2017), whose Greek Jewish father converted to Catholicism to marry Sarkozy's French Catholic maternal grandmother. They were married in the Saint-François-de-Sales church, 17th arrondissement of Paris, on 8 February 1950, and divorced in 1959. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_history_of_Nicolas_Sarkozy
>>12673604>Gaddafi had done more than organize an African monetary coup. He had demonstrated that financial independence could be achieved. His greatest infrastructure project, the Great Man-made River, was turning arid regions into a breadbasket for Libya; and the $33 billion project was being funded interest-free without foreign debt, through Libya's own state-owned bank.>That could explain why this critical piece of infrastructure was destroyed in 2011. NATO not only bombed the pipeline but finished off the project by bombing the factory producing the pipes necessary to repair it.>Crippling a civilian irrigation system serving up to 70% of the population hardly looks like humanitarian intervention. Rather, as Canadian Professor Maximilian Forte put it in his heavily researched book Slouching Towards Sirte: NATO's War on Libya and Africa,>"the goal of US military intervention was to disrupt an emerging pattern of independence and a network of collaboration within Africa that would facilitate increased African self-reliance. This is at odds with the geostrategic and political economic ambitions of extra-continental European powers, namely the US.">Hilary Clinton's emails shed light on another enigma remarked on by early commentators. Why, within weeks of initiating fighting, did the rebels set up their own central bank? At the time, Robert Wenzel wrote in The Economic Policy Journal in 2011:>"This suggests we have a bit more than a rag tag bunch of rebels running around and that there are some pretty sophisticated influences. I have never before heard of a central bank being created in just a matter of weeks out of a popular uprising.">There the matter would have remained - suspicious but unverified, like so many stories of fraud and corruption - but for the publication of Hillary Clinton's emails after an FBI probe. They add substantial weight to Newman's suspicions: violent intervention was not chiefly about the security of the people.
Libya became more independent under Gaddafi and the America couldn't have that.https: //archive. ph/cB5Grhttps://www.benzinga.com/11/03/958264/wow-that-was-fast-libyan-rebels-have-already-established-a-new-central-bank-of-libya
>>12673129>How did they lose?How did a tiny population of 200 thousand lose when the entire world was sanctioning them? Who will ever know
Why do people who supposedly hate niggers want to live a country full of them and interact with them every day? What was their logic?
>we shouldn't let black people vote>95% black country>it eventually collapses because literally nobody thinks this is a good idea>WTF HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN
>>12673811>people who supposedly hate niggersI don't believe the Rhodesian parliament passed an official nigger-hating resolution or anything. Not wanting a black-majority parliament and maybe wanting to live in a white neighbourhood hardly alone qualifies as nigger-hating by itself surely anyway, unless you're going full Reddit.
>>12673546Maybe it is because we are not as racist as you think?
>>12673811>I want all the privilege but with none of the consequences.Typical colony dynamic
>>12673844>I don't believe the Rhodesian parliament passed an official nigger-hating resolution or anythingHad laws that explicitly treated Africans as a 2nd class and gimped Black representation in many ways. Just read up on the laws they had, how elections worked and the sheer disparity in government supports. Seriously it's worth your time
>>12673604That anon is right however. Idriss Deby and his predecessor were both heavily backed by France and when Idress got killed a few months back and France did no real change to help push for a more democratic shift.
>>12673521>They did though, it’s called RhodesiaNEVER had a Black ruler.>Rhodesia didn’t suffer a military defeat either like you claim, even with human wave tactics. Constant population loss due to emigration, white me being conscripted to fight drained the encomium of people an the sheer pressure of guerilla warfare hitting infrastructure.That is military defeat.>they eventually turned on them.They didn't. Portugal dropped out of the colonial game due to the Carnation revolution and SA was much more self-sufficent.
>>12673844They did though, they:-changed the constitution from voting rights being based on education and money to race, even if they turned the natives into genius billionaires they would not be able to have at least half of the lower house seats-petty apartheid, banned mixed schools and sporting clubs-divided up the land so that natives were unable to own any of the productive and valuable land and instead forced into semi reservation like territories.-created practical apartheid in white areas by requiring native people to have homes there or being employed there.-forced state archeologists to not publish work because they were parinoid that if the natives thought the stone ruins were built by themselves it would radicalise them.-diverted almost the entire education budget into supporting the white minority while forcing natives to largely rely on missionary education. I mean there is a reason why they native people there didn’t btfo Mugabe
>>12673927>I mean there is a reason why they native people there didn’t btfo Mugabebecause Mugabe killed them, literallyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gukurahundi
>>12673939You know there are other groups? Also fyi Mugabe did get a lot of support from whites for quite some time.
>>12673939That happened after his victory over Rhodesia and Smith though and against an ethnic minority. Take a look at the example of Peru where the communists were so hated by the people they claimed to represent - they literally joined forces with a regime led by a Japanese man that was trying to shrink their population size. Mugabe was able to carry the overwhelming majority of the population to victory against Smith because Rhodesia provided no viable reformist option
>>12673951Economically the white zimbaweans were doing the best they had even done under Mugabe because with sanctions gone there was nothing holding them back anymore.The same goes with South Africa after apartheid.But who gives a shit about the rich doing better economically? It is the principle of the matter that is the issue.The poor blacks have done worse by ending these things. The seizing of land just went to Mugabe's inner circle, and the hyperinflation wiped out any savings the normal people of Zimbabwe might have had. The fact that whites supporter Mugabe does not make me suddenly like him. Whites can be shortsighted idiots sometimes who thought it was better to "be on the right side of history" integrated into the world community rather than fight for what they knew was right, which was NOT mugabe.Under the country of zimbawe-rhodesia there was going to be black suffrage with the caveat that Mugabe was not allowed to run, but the international community wouldn't allow it despite the fact that the reason for this is that even the blacks knew how terrible Mugabe was going to be, but nobody fucking listened to them either.
>>12673963>Mugabe was able to carry the overwhelming majority of the population to victory against Smith because Rhodesia provided no viable reformist optionThat is fucking bullshit, Zimbawe-Rhodesia was the reformist option that was specifically disallowing Mugabe from running, but the interantional community wouldn't allow it since that wasn't democratic enough.It wasn't Rhodesia that prevented reformism IT WAS YOU. Rhodesia was entirely about reformism rather than revolution.
>>12673898>Never had a black leaderWho the fuck was Mugabe then you fucking snickerlicker?
>>12673568I want to get the Gerry Adams cookbook (it's not that kind of cookbook)https://youtu.be/kkgUx1ngWOk
>>12673993Do you have your time lines right? Zimbawe-Rhodesia was in 1979 and a result of the white minority failing to maintain control after spending 15 years trying to beat down the majority population. It was the last ditch effort of a failing regime. Where was the ZR option in the 1960s?>t wasn't Rhodesia that prevented reformism IT WAS YOU. Rhodesia was entirely about reformism rather than revolution.Wasn’t even born then anon let alone powerful enough to control an entire nation but assuming you mean the international community - that is likewise false, no one forced smith to change the constitution to make it impossible for blacks to ever have majority rule no one forced smith to segregate schools. As for that last point it was neither for reform or revolution it was for reaction, preventing both reform and revolution and bringing the white minority power it hadn’t had since the foundation of the colony.
>>12673129Another case of the Eternal Anglo, backstabbing their own people
>>12674007He was ruling ZIMBABWE.
>>12674031Are you not paying attention to the fact that the international community literally wouldn't accept the reforms unless Mugabe was a participant in them?
>>12673988and Mugabe is result of Ian Smith wiping out so many other alternatives that eventually Mugabe was the last one standing who could still coalesce power.>Under the country of zimbawe-rhodesia there was going to be black suffrage with the caveat that Mugabe was not allowed to run.Under the zimbawe-rhodesia elections the election system was STILL rigged. Also forbidding a person from running kills the whole point of the election lol can't you see?
>>12673993>dumb larpers seethe at random individuals like a literal homeless person
>>12674104People called it rigged because Mugabe was not allowed to run, which was a decision the people who would go on to genocide agreed with because they knew he would probably genocide them if he won so they cooperated with the whites to prevent him from running.
>>12674036retarded revisionism since Rhodesia was the one who declared UDI.>>12674100>Under the agreement of 1978, the new Zimbabwe Rhodesia House of Assembly was to consist of 100 members. 20 were to be elected on the old roll with property, income and education qualifications, which most black citizens did not meet, and which was previously used to elect the majority of the Rhodesia House of Assembly. 72 seats were elected by the "Common Roll" which every adult in the country had a vote. Owing to the lack of an electoral roll, voters were instead marked with ink on their fingers to stop multiple voting. Once the 92 members had been elected, they assembled to vote for eight White non-constituency members. All the candidates for these posts were members of the Rhodesian Front.>The 20 White Roll members were elected from new constituencies made up of combinations of the previous constituencies. The Common Roll members were elected by province using a closed list system. It was intended to set up a full electoral register and institute single-member constituencies for future elections. Whites had an very disproportional representation
>>12674094Same goddamn thing. Just a new name.
>>12674119It was pretty different especially with the radical change in government policy, name and other factors. That's like calling Vichy France and Post ww2 the same thing
>>12674118You do realize that they had a gradual expansion of the voting rolls that started with stuff like income in places like France do you? Are you under some delusion that a place like france which took a century to get it right was suddenly was going to be outdone by literally Zimbabwe in an instantaneous moment where everybody got the right to vote at the same time?
>>12674100Mugabe wasn’t even a factor in the pre UDI days, and of course after 15 years of internal suppression and disenfranchisement the international community wasn’t just going to accept terms that removed the regimes biggest opponent. Rhodesia was formed precisely on the basis that it would not be progressive. Not only that but they had 15 years to build up the goodwill of the majority population and they failed at this.
>>12673852Who is on the far right
>>12674132>>12674142No you idiot Rhodesia was formed under the idea that it would be as difficult for blacks to become democratic as it would have been for the French. The point was to be "progressive" along the line of progress that had been established historically rather than being progressive based on what the current ideas of progress determined to be the soup of the day.
>>12674132Why do you care what France does? The policy you so dick sucks directly gives whites disproportionate voting power in a system all about fair elections you retard. Stop defending a regime that wasn't even trying to hide a last minute political power grab lol.
>>12673281And yet defended on 4chan by you and a bunch of kiketube LARPers who crowd around paradox GSGs and that one shitty garage rock song. You can shout strawman all you like basedboy bitch, you know exactly what I'm talking about and you despise me for calling you out on it. I drink your tears.
>>12674165Whites didn't immediately have universal voting rights either. They had voting rights based on property requirements and literacy requirments. If you look at the direction of progress in white countries those were the paths they took. Not just France, the USA, and Britain too. You are asking for a completely different path to be taken where everything happens immediately and then expecting that to not end in disaster like it did during the French revolution. The reason I brought up France is because it is a clear example. When they did what the international community was insisting Zimbabwe needed to do it resulted in chaos, instead they took 100 years to do it under the more conservative later republics and it worked out better, to the point that NOW they have universal suffrage but they couldn't do it right away.
>>12674155>The point was to be "progressive" along the line of progress that had been established historically rather than being progressive based on what the current ideas of progress determined to be the soup of the day.That system woudl allow the whites to delay Black voting progress pretty much near infinitely.>Under the agreement of 1978, the new Zimbabwe Rhodesia House of Assembly was to consist of 100 members. 20 were to be elected on the old roll with property, income and education qualifications, which most black citizens did not meet, and which was previously used to elect the majority of the Rhodesia House of Assembly20 seats most Blacks could not qualify and on top of that more political power means more ease to kneecap funding for education, labour rights, bargaining power, racial wage parity, ability for African to buy land. Thus a way to maintain power hierarchies.>72 seats were elected by the "Common Roll" which every adult in the country had a vote. Owing to the lack of an electoral roll, voters were instead marked with ink on their fingers to stop multiple voting. 72 seats that whites could also vote on so overall they can vote for TWO rolls.>Once the 92 members had been elected, they assembled to vote for eight White non-constituency members. All the candidates for these posts were members of the Rhodesian Front.So basically 8 guaranteed seats for whites.It's easy to see how this is not really fair and balanced with how this functioned.
>>12674182Nah you are defending a group trying to entrench it's power by any means necessary Remember if you control the seats you can control policy. Why the flying fuck do you think that whites should have essentially 28 FREE seats to themselves no other ethnic group can have. why don;t Indians or coloreds have their own fucking exclusive seats? why whites?
>>12674185>That system woudl allow the whites to delay Black voting progress pretty much near infinitely.Property voting rights could have resulted in propertied French/British/Americans delaying voting right to the rest of the French/British/Americans indefinitely too, but it didn't.
>>12674195They were concerned that the stuff that ended up happening would happen if they didn't have those things.
>>12673162>He needs first hand experience to see that the average subsaharan black probably can't run a modern state
>>12674155Funnily enough that was true for the British 1961 constitution for Rhodesia but not then UDI one which is why smith was able to make the “not in a thousand years” statement when taking about majority rule.
>>12674205Rhodesia land was split explicitly by race in terms of what you could do with it, where you can buy it and where you could live on.Land Africans could buy was marginal, super crowded reserve land. Thus over time Africans would have to fight over scraps more or less to qualify for voting rights as more people entered the voting pool or desired to. Meanwhile Whites had much more land options since they had all the good land allotted to them and much easier access to capital and state assistance.
>>12674195Their ancestors conquered and founded the country, that's why. They have the birthright to do so.
>>12674213>They were concerned that the stuff that ended up happening would happen if they didn't have those things.Such as what?>>12674215Yet we have several Black SSA states that re decently run and do have elections. Not to mention Rhodesia was no different from other African states in terms of very low standards of living. In relative it never was any real good unless you consider tiny splotches of okay at best modalities here and there and a society filled with racial autism and fear. If you wanted that you might as well live in SA which was way better.
>>12674227Cool so you have no issue with it being conquered back?Vae victis my beady eyed friend
>>12674229>Such as what?Everything that ended up happening in Zimbabwe is what they were trying to prevent.
>>12674227>Muh might is rightand he lost in the end.
>>12674237>Everything that ended up happening in Zimbabwe is what they were trying to prevent.After failing to do any sort of real reform and refusing to adapt to the changing winds. Turns out adaptability is actually a good thing.
>>12674233Ghana, Senegal, Kenya, Botswana, Nambia, Gabon, Uganda the Gambia, Liberia has surprisingly decent elections.
>>12674248Just because you don't like the reforms doesn't mean there weren't reforms.
>>12674236Of course, I have a problem with that. You have to defend your territory by creating political institutions backed up by the force of the judiciary, military, police, etc. which are beholden to the rule of law.
>>12674239He did, but there is no such thing as the end.
>>12674267What reforms do you have in mind?
>>12674284He's possibly getting shipped back to the UK in return for Britain sending back colonial war trophies like skulls and remains. Meanwhile, Paul Kruger is still sleeping soundly in the Heroes' Acre in Pretoria so if the trade does go through in a cosmic sort of way Cecil is kinda dying allover again.
>>12674309>What reforms do youDid the British really take heads as trophies? Rather barbaric if you ask me. As far as I'm concerned let the man rest on his rock mountain.
>>12673142The Anglos are uniquely talented at making civilizations from scratch. They'll just show up in some fly-infested bog and within five years it'll be a boom town with telegraph wires and a newspaper.
>>12674338>As far as I'm concerned let the man rest on his rock mountain.Nah it's up to them to do what they want with him, it's their land and their choice. Especially since Matobo hills is a sacred place for the locals and Cecil probably wanted to be buried there as a power move.
>>12673129What retarded polnigger take. It’s honestly retarded that people complain about a cabal of Jews stealing everyone’s money and controlling everyone then do a complete 180 and praise Rhodesia. Why even call Jews evil at this point if god knows you would do the same if you could
>>12674424Because I dated a Jew who got offended when I said that the reason I liked Israel so much was because it reminded me of south africa.If she didn't get offended by this I wouldn't have a problem. The problem is she doesn't realize this and thinks of herself as being on the right side of history rather than under siege. The only way for the Jews to learn what they have wrought upon this earth is if they are forced to undergo what we had to undergo thanks to them. Thankfully this is happening but these people have a uncanny inability to never actually learn anything from experience so I'm not getting my hopes up.
>>12674446>The only way for the Jews to learn what they have wrought upon this earth is if they are forced to undergo what we had to undergo thanks to them. You really are fucked in the head.
>>12674543They literally have a folk tale about this though. Rabbi makes a golem out of clay to attack their enemies but then the golem attacks them.
>>12674390I’ll bury him there again when we retake Rhodesia. Don’t worry.
>>12674598You can barely get out of bed.
>>12674673Jokes on you, I’m not fat.
>>12673927>changed the constitution from voting rights being based on education and money to race, even if they turned the natives into genius billionaires they would not be able to have at least halThis is blatantly false, the blacks could've voted in black-only government in every single election, yes they weren't equally tallied but it was an educational clause, and obviously seeing what universal voting franchise brought the country bitching about it is in bad taste. A lot of actually local blacks were pro-Rhodesia(large part of their military was black, something few people tend to mention) and hated the shit out of communists, who mostly got their recruitment from neighbouring countries.
>>12673142>prosperous stateRhodesia was just another African shithole for 95% of the population. It wasn't prosperous.
>>12673129>Compromises with Rhodesia to become a dominion >"NO WE ARE TOO GOOD FOR THAT BECAUSE WE'RE SEMI AUTONOMOUS"Cecil Rhodes should have been shot in the heaf after
>>12675217You are mixing up your constitutions the 1969 update changed qualifications for the B roll from education to race and the B roll could not be more than 50% ever>A lot of actually local blacks were pro-RhodesiaWhich is why a majority of them who could vote voted decisively against Smith’s party during the elections that were held during the 1970s.If smith has the support of the majority he would never have failed
>>12673129>rhodesians outskilled the bushmenWar is a continuation of diplomacy, Zimbabweans were able to leverage international support, the Rhodesians were not, the Zimbabweans actually achieved their aims in the war, the Rhodesians did not.There's a weird mentality I see from Americans constantly, that war is fundamentally about fighting and nothing else, it's odd to see a nation so proud about the Guerrilla tactics used during their war of independence be so adamant that war is something seperate from politics, and use copes like "we didn't lose, we just lost the will to win"
>>12674132So then explain a country like Botswana, which to my understanding has run a pretty tight ship of a liberal democracy since independence, without this apparently essential slow process of voter expansion.
>>12673811Powerfantasy and delusion of being at the top of a hierarchy in society. Most people who went to africa were the lowest of the lowest in their homelands. At home they were nonunique trash. In Africa they could pretend to be nobles. You can see this in the Southern American culture during slavery where they larp as aristocratic nobles as well.
>>12673852>Whites>Hope of AfricaWhites are the bane of Africa. Especially South Africa. Policies of white people are why South Africa is one of the most economically unequal places in the world. The ANC being ineffective or incompetent doesn't change that.
>>12674598>Retake RhodesiaKek. Good luck polfag you can barely keep your own communities 100% white.
>>12674424Congratulations anon you are beginning to realize that polfags are massive hypocrites of the highest order and that everything they criticize 'da joos' for they have already dreamed of doing or would happily do to someone else's community if given the chance. No one should feel sympathy for them.
>>12676698>>12676857What a dream, but yet it is probable, it is possible!