Is there any proof a roman empire existed? The details are sketchy as fuck to be honest and greatly exaggerated. Not a troll.
>>12359994a lot of the stories around the greatest leaders are mostly legend, but the existence of the state itself is undoubtable
>>12359994Only a coping mutterone could make such a retarded thread
>>12360172lmao, cope sheep. No proof it ever existed bar some fantasy esque story telling the level of Zeus.
>>12359994I live in a town with roman ruins. Heads of emperors were found in the river. You can dig roman coins out the ground.
>>12359994>Is there any proof a roman empire existed?No, it was made up by early Christians to give the Jesus a credible backstory.
>>12360343Anecdotal evidence, was probably planted.
>>12359994The sheer retardation and lack of reading anything that must of happened to make this thread come into existence is enough to make me leave /hist forever
>>12359994Yes it existed.The one people have doubts if it existed or not is the Roman monarchy.
>>12359994Anon, unironically read a book. Look at carbon dating studies. The amount of effort required to fabricate it grossly outweighs anything to be gained from doing it.
>>12359994>Roman Catholic Church>literal ruins and artifacts (denarii etc)>Latin language, still used in science and also in historiography >Latin vulgate bible>fuckin Germany exists>everyone afterward even far away in Russia etc, wants their title to be “CAESAR”>literally just all Christianity There’s better places for you to use discernment. This is unquestioned. Stop.
Is this a weird form of germanic we wuzzing? what the fuck
>>12360317Read a book, mutt xD
>>12359994>>12360366All pre-medieval history is just an invention by bored Christian monks.
I have a hard time reading ancient history because I feel like 99.9% are just lies.
>>12359994Epigraphs found in hundreds of excavations all over Europe, North Africa and the Near East mentioning governors (legati Augusti, proconsuli, etc) working for the central Roman administration, among other things
>>12361062This is my new favorite troll line.
>>12359994no. even if it did exist, it wasn't as far back as is taught in schools. there were guns during the time of jesus. most of history is complete fabrication.
Is there any proof that anything before the present moment existed?
>>12359994proof is unnecessary in historiographyall sources are biasedhistory is pure narrative
>>12361062Roman empire was around in the 1400s though.
>>12361026This appears to be a meta-thread lambasting retarded historical positions like denying the holocaust or the existence of Jesus
>>12361062History is 1000 years old.
>>12361062A pope ordered several centuries on the calendar to be skipped that he might live in the end times.
While OP is being slightly disingenuous, anon is not wrong. Rome existed, but how it existed in reality vs the physical evidence is worth drawing attention to and exploring. There are some serious issues with the mainstream story and if you dive in just a little bit, there are many cracks to be found.
>>12362001KEEP THE DEBATES TO JSTOR PLEASE WE NEED TO PRESENT A UNIFIED FRONT TO THE PLEBS OR ELSE THEY'LL START SAYING WRONG THINGS LIKE THE ROMAN EMPIRE DIDN'T EXIST AND DOUBT THINGS THAT HISTORIANS TOLD THEM HOLY SHIT THANK YOU CHUD
>>12360317Absolutely seething. You will never be white, little pisschink bug. You will always be second place.
>>12361007>>fuckin Germany existshistorylet and new here, pls explain a little?
>>12360995Carbon dating is a pseudo science you're surely not falling for that meme are you?
>>12360449This is oure troll. No sane person can doubt the existing of rome, even illiterate persons that go around europe will see roughly the same aesthetic in buildings, bridges, aquaduts and concluded easily it was the same civilization
>>12362076Germany as a nation is a pretty new phenomenon, imma green text but just read more ancient history and the play crusader kings or something>German territory is defined as the non Roman land at domes greatest extent that is east of the rhine river (current divide between France and Germany)>Germans never totally conquered by Romans, they make war till end of eestern Roman Empire, identity is defined largely by this at this time.>fast forward to the 8th century and the the kings of the franks, Charlemagne, is named the “emperor of the Romans” beginning the sequence of events the form the Holy Roman Empire, which is modern day Germany Austria and Switzerland five or take. >the word Kaiser comes from “Caesar” etc.As you can see there’s a lot here and it’s very interesting useful history. I recommend starting with antiquity thru Caesar and the time of Christ. From their western medieval history has the context to make sense.
Was the USSR real?
>>12362190awesome, thanks. Always wondered where that connection came from.
>>12362203Is the United States of America "real?"
>>12362179Any proof the romans were involved in this? Carbon dating is junk science, all evidence of a roman empire is anecdotal and shady at best.
>>12360430In that case nothing is real. It's all just planted.
>>12362216No,it was planted.
>>12362204Np, I appreciate that you asked
>>12359994Judging by pop history Rome was just the life ofJulius Ceaser and then that was it.
lmao, imagine buying into the official narrative. You people are so easily lead.
>>12361407If so then OP is a genius
>>12362987I'm not a genius, I just refuse to believe the Roman propaganda. If they were that elaborate an empire they'd at least be a state now and not a city
>>12363425>An Empire falling and being replaced by successor states is not possible over thousands of years.The decline in territory of the Roman Empire took a thousand years and until the 20th century and the mass death of monarchism several leaders tried to link their authority to its memory. France and Germany can literally trace their origins to on attempt. It's mentioned in the Quran and the Bible, to deny the Roman Empire existed when we have consistent sources referencing it's size and consistently dated archeological data from across the territory it claimed. Trying to denying it like claiming the Earth is flat using a map made using satellites.
>>12363503Spoken like a true shill
>>12359994is this the flat earth version of /his/ it's so retarded it's insulting
>>12361031Han Chinese are pure.
>>12363995So if changs identify as han tell us why were most of your ruling dynasties non-han?
>>12363999Non Han got cucked, their women married to Han men, rulers succumb to Han culture. That is why Rome no longer exist but China still does.
>>12364005Yo didnt answer my questionWhy were most of your ruling dynasties non-han?
>>12364015Barbarians take advantage of dire times, and invade and become rulers by appealing to Mandate of Heaven. They become Sinicised and abandon native culture, give Han their women. They were nothing without Han.
>>12363992>>12363503Tell me how Rome was real. And don't say bullshit like carbon dating which has been debunked. Make it short and concise and I and many like me will see the light. Even the origin story of Rome is bollocks. Two baby brothers raised by a Wolf? And I'm the conspiracy theorist? Please.
All of Italy is fake. It's just a geographer joke.
>>12361007>>12361026>>12363992It's a jew who's extremely butthurt about holocaust denial.
why the fuck does this poor quality shitposting thread have so many replies sage
IT IS CHINKS MAKING ALL THESE ANTOI ROMAN THREADS
>>12361407It's because some retarded person on Tiktok is gaining traction saying that Rome wasn't real
>>12364030I was there.
>>12364030I saw it in a dream, Rome is real
>>12364905No. See >>12364896
>>12361407A kike is butthurt no one buys the holohoax and spams shitty threads. Typical
>>12366473What do you expect from the muh hitler crew?