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When and why did France become a Romance speaking country instead of a Germanic speaking one? The core of France is the northern part which is genetically closer to the Germanic peoples than to Iberians and Italians.
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Latin is a Celtic language just like Gaulish. So the shift from Gaulish wasn't radical at all. It's a bit like how Arabic pushed aside Aramaic easily since they are both so similar
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>>11321261
Gauls adopted latin. Latin was a prestigious language associated with civilization while frankish was another barbarian speech. Thus Romans didn't adopt Frankish and Frankish in romance speaking lands ended up speaking romance.
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Both the Franks and the local Gallo-Romans spoke Latin.
>The core of France is the northern part which is genetically closer to the Germanic peoples than to Iberians and Italians

They are closer to Celtoid South Germans who are barely Germanic, not pure Germanics like Scandinavians.
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>>11321261
Iberians are actually closer to French genetically than they are to Italians.
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>>11321280
OP here, i was excluding Southern Italians.
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>>11321269
depends on what OP means by "France"
considering his map he might be talking about the Frankish empire around 480 which is not anything close to franceb ut whatever.
The north was definitely more germanic than celtic.
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>>11321261
«Genetically» they never really changed. The germanic/nordic admixture was always quite low and remained so even under the franks. It’s more the other way around : the franks and neighboring populations were not genetically different from the northern gauls when they moved in. That doesn’t mean the northern gauls were germanic speaking, just that genetics had little to do with the language spoken on the left bank of the Rhine.

Romance remained the predominant language in urban centers along the Rhine for quite a long time btw. So even with the influx of germanic speaking migrants on the left bank, Romance was still well established enough that a bit of density was enough to prevent germanification of the tongue for a time. The rest of the areas on the left bank that speak romance today never ceased to do so. If anything the remnants of local celtic dialects died down moreso than anything. There never was a degermanification (outside of Alsace in the very recent past and even that is debatable), on the contrary if anything celtic and romance speaking areas were germanified on the left bank of the centuries.
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>>11321730
This. In fact it's a pretty common belief now that many of the northern belgic tribes were in fact germanic tribes (or mixed) that assimilated to gaul and might have even spoken romance dialects
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>>11321261
Because the Gallo-Romans who lived in Gallia outnumbered the Frankish Niggers that invaded the place.
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France was strongly romanized, plus that the entire South of France (Aquitaine, Occitanie, Provence, Corsica, Auvergne-Rhone Alpes) are latins by ethnicity, culture, language, etc so they act as a factor of romanfication until today.

Even sports related to bulls used to be a thing in these parts of France in the past.
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>>11321261
>when and why did France become a Romance
It has always been, you stupid barb. The Celtic and Italic languages are already related, which is why Gauls was so quickly Romanized.
The fact that a handful of barbarians could not have a significant cultural impact on the enslaved population is just another proof of the wretchedness and savagery of the germs.
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>>11321261
Most people living in Gaul spoke Latin and it mixed with the Germanic Frankish. One came on top of the other.
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>>11321856
>mixed with the Germanic Frankish
Not really much. All this strange French sound is an artifact of Gallic phonetics. At the same time, most of the German borrowings in French are precisely German and were taken over from neighboring Germany (the Germans also took over some of the French borrowings, a common process for neighboring countries).
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>>11321261
Virtually every German in the empire was thoroughly latinized and spoke vulgar Latin. The gradual switch from Imperial to "barbarian" control was facilitated by the common tongue.
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friendly reminder to all seethefriends itt that the distinctive phonetic features of French are the result of it being romance spoken in a frankish (germanic) accent.
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>>11321261
Because the franks adopted the infrastructure, politics, language and the latin speaking peoples of the roman empire when they conquered the migrated into the region. They were not the majority.
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>>11321847
t. amerigolem
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t. barbaroseether



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