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Is it a coincidence Iberians became the naval trading powers right after the Arabs? How did it happen?
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>>10839749
>pic
Faked ancestry points always get me mad. Real admixture studies show 0-11% Nafri DNA in Iberia.
>Is it a coincidence Iberians became the naval trading powers right after the Arabs?
Political stability in Iberia. No more hostile powers, and the unification of Castile and Aragon was based and redpilled. This led Spaniards (and Portuguese) to sail abroad.
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>>10839778
>Faked ancestry points always get me mad. Real admixture studies show 0-11% Nafri DNA in Iberia.
It's a real pic anon, The populations were always somewhat similar

>Political stability in Iberia. No more hostile powers, and the unification of Castile and Aragon was based and redpilled. This led Spaniards (and Portuguese) to sail abroad.
Why did the portugese do it first?
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>>10839788
>It's a real pic anon, The populations were always somewhat similar
I know it is, it's trying to build ancestral groups that don't exist, not using historical samples. An Iberian is closer in genetic distance to a fucking Russian than a Moroccan.
>Why did the portugese do it first?
The Castilians did it first. They colonized the Canaries far earlier than Portuguese colonized Madeira. Aragonese did this shit earlier by owning Sardinia, Naples, Sicily, and even Athens and Neopatras
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>>10839749
Arabs weren't major trading powers? They had the med and Indian ocean but that's their geography they weren't trading that far from home
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>>10839900
>An Iberian is closer in genetic distance to a fucking Russian
I'm not sure if that's true, Russians have very very little EEF and Iberians don't have much steppe or WHG

>The Castilians did it first. They colonized the Canaries far earlier than Portuguese colonized Madeira
I mean long distance trade networks, unless castille did that first too?
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>>10839914
Under Harun, maritime trade through the Persian Gulf thrived, with Arab vessels trading as far south as Madagascar and as far east as China, Korea, and Japan. The growing economy of Baghdad and other cities inevitably led to the demand for luxury items and formed a class of entrepreneurs who organized long-range caravans for the trade and then the distribution of their goods. A whole section in the East Baghdad suq was dedicated to Chinese goods. Arabs traded with the Baltic region and made it as far north as the British Isles. Tens of thousands of Arab coins have been discovered in parts of Russia and Sweden, which bear witness to the comprehensive trade networks set up by the Abbasids. King Offa of Mercia (in England) minted gold coins similar to those of the Abbasids in the eighth century.
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>>10839941
>I'm not sure if that's true, Russians have very very little EEF and Iberians don't have much steppe or WHG
Pic related.
>I mean long distance trade networks, unless castille did that first too?
Aragonese did that before the Portuguese in that case.
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>>10840020
Interesting. North Russians are nearly as distant as moroccans, similar to my expectations

Who did aragon trade with?
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>>10839749
They took northern moroccoans (that are 30% ibeeian) to modelize "north african". Just a mistake and you get Spaniards with nafri dna because of the modelization stupidity.

That some Spaniards are dark? Yes, but most probably phoenicians, gypsies, etc
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>>10840080
>Who did aragon trade with?
Literally the entire mediteranean. From Georgia to Faro.
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>>10840113
In this way aren't they the successor to rome?
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>>10840124
why do people think like this...
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>>10840182
:D
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>>10839778
they're actually 1/4th nonwhite on average, they also have unironic negroid blood
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>>10840212
Source: Haplogroups
Not going to even argue about this for the billionth time. Nobody on this board believes you anymore thanks to the new Iberian DNA study and the patterns study that released last year. All of your shit that references haplogroups is tiresome.
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>>10840111
iirc north african isn't modelled on this
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>>10839778
>>10840020
>>10840111
>>10840212
Fuck off. I'm literally whiter than you.
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>>10840247
You mean this study made on Basques which are less than 1% of the Iberian population? How many fucking times do I have to tell you that 1% is not a representative sample? Wait, let me guess, you didn't actually read the study like an absolute retard right? Every single one of those samples used are Basques from the Basque country or surrounding areas, NOT average Iberians

This is why I just shitpost to troll now, you're genuinely dumb as shit every time and your coping is straight up laughable.
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>>10840483
They're using a study on the most isolated spanish population now?
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I'm just gonna leave this autosomal study done on average muttberians and leave victorious once again
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>>10840212
here comes the mentally ill syrian, posting the same debunked garbage and lies.

They are not 1/4 non white, and their SSA is 0-1.
They are probably more whier than the majority of other europeans.
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>>10840483
>>10840493
1%?
it has samples from all iberians, like any other study, it has samples. Look at your own picture, it's iberian populations from all the regions.

NA dna on iberians is residual: 0-5%
read that study of your own picture
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>>10839749
I'm just gonna leave this autosomal study done on average europa and leave victorious once again
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>>10840488
>>10840493
Achmed go fuck a donkey.
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>>10840531
Why do you guys always post stuff that models CHG-related populations with the same component? Yamnaya had CHG from the start nobody disputes that at all lmao
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>>10839749
>Hurr Durr X genes means you are good at Y
The state of his I mean pol 2.0
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>>10840525
READ the study retard
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>>10840548
Everyone knows that, the gedrosia is pre-hosrical. but the syrian retard thinks it's only french or iberians that have those west-eurasian compoments
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>>10840572
I've read. and it says what everybody already knew.
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>>10840488
Yes and the retard clearly doesn't even reads the studies he posts, these mutts have ZERO credibility and they're so incredibly anti-intelectual they deserve to be trolled
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>>10840493
I don´t know if you understand moron.

But if you do that counting. measuring caucasid elements that came from outside of europe on pre historical times. Let's say proto-berber, iranid related stuff, natufian and so on. Spaniards or portugese and surely french are whiter than the majority of Europe. Do you understand that?

Pic related. 2021
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>>10840650
Europeans have natufian-like admixture...?
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>>10840444
>digits
Iberians confirmed whitoids
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>>10840680
yes, residual, but yes
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>>10840598
based
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Arabs were awful sailors. The only relevant maritime battles of theirs I can even name is when the Byzantines sent 100,000 to the bottom of the sea
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>>10841352
Did the byzantines achieve trade networks like they did? Genuinely asking
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>>10840680
No, you are being psy opped by the moor
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>>10840593
You didn't read it
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>>10839749
It's the trading gene. Since Spanish are 90% Moorish they got it too
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>>10841352
Arabs includes Egyptians, Levantines and North Africans who had quite powerful fleet back in the day.
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>>10839749
Italian DNA and explorers like Columbus allowed them to explore the Oceans and build empires.

Pure Iberians like Basques are only known for sheep shagging, ugly women and bombing civilians.

>>10840483
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>>10842030
>>10842043
Correct posts. Anglos claim descent from israel that is why they were able to do it next
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>>10842066
Black people can't even swim, how can they field a navy?
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>>10840124
Didn't they get the emperor of byzantium title from the emperor's cousin when Costantinopole fell?
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>>10839941
>long distance trade networks, unless castille did that first too

Eh, not terribly long distance, but it famously sent wool by the shipload to Flanders from the 1300 onwards.
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>>10842066
>Pure Iberians like Basques are only known for sheep shagging, ugly women and bombing civilians.
Wrong. Basques were renown for their sailing skills, they were among the first to reach Canada to fish cods, they had their own typical ship designs and the first captain to complete the circumnavigation of the globe was Elcano, a Basque
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>>10842780
>>10842066
The earliest Basque records of whaling around Labrador date from the 1540s. They give details of the extensive trade in whale oil that was used for lamps, which burned brighter than those filled with vegetable oils. Whales were also prized for their blubber, used in the construction of ships, the manufacture of soap, pharmaceutical products and in the textile industry.

An average of 15 Basque ships a year sailed from Pasajes to Labrador, each with at least a thousand 400-pound barrels for transporting whale oil and blubber on board. The lamp oil from whales became the key commodity for Basque entrepreneurs, who developed shoreline ‘factories’, to render hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil, and organised regular shipping schedules between Canada and Europe to deliver the product to market. The San Juan was carrying almost a thousand barrels of whale oil when she went down. The year after its sinking, another Basque whaling ship recovered the oil and when it returned home, the captain was served a writ by the owners of the San Juan, suing for the return of its cargo.

‘They proceeded to dismantle the vessel, piece by piece, some three thousand items in all,’ says Xabier Agote, chairman of the Albaola Shipyard Museum in Pasajes, where an exact replica of Canada’s oldest shipwreck is being built. Albaola refers to a notched sill plank that sits above a carved waterway on the side of each deck of a galleon. It is an archaic Basque word that was retrieved by Canadian historians from 16th century Basque shipbuilding contracts. ‘The job of photographing and documenting the ship required eight years of painstaking work. It required another 22 years to reassemble the vessel, bearing in mind that in this extreme climate it is only possible to work in the summer months. Once the project was completed in 2008, the San Juan stood as the world’s most important reconstruction of a 16th century commercial ship.’
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>>10842802
>basque sailor circa 1540 colorized
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mwnq2v2BRcc
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>>10839914

I think most forget that people don’t usually eat from other's produce. Most of modern movements and displacement started with medical industry. The only people that did consume another’s produce were those of caliphates or provinces and that’s because they needed living collateral for consumption. Why would Europe bother with sugar from sugar cane if it had honey?
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>>10839778
11 % Nafri DNA is still insane
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>>10841488

According to modern politics no. Byzantine feared for their lives and until recently have manage to gain trust of a government or governments in alleviating their past history. I’ll give you this right for this right under the consideration we are under immediate threat by the janissary relatives confederation. Turkey would get boys from surrounding small villages castrate them and lead them to war. I’ve even read somewhere that Bill Clinton was impeached because all the bills passed equated to the creation of a janissary like regime. In other words Europeans had the right to take peoples children with decoy sterilize them on the basis of risk of them approaching European mainland. He was even adamant he never slept with that woman. I’m their culture if you haven’t slept with a woman it means there are no cultural or racial ties to even worry about their well being.
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>>10843323
>>10839778
It's not 11%,.but 0-5%

>Genetic origins, singularity, and heterogeneity of Basques Andre Flores-Bello et al 2021

and that's it's not even nafri. Way less than what other euros mark iranid related etc:>>10840650
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>>10843380
It's north African, semitic and sub-Saharan admixture and it's not 0-5%
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>>10844000
NA caucasid it's 0-5%
and SSA is 0-1

The most recent study::>>10843380
your picture is sg, on that logic, english or germans, are 20-30% iranid/brahui:>>10840650
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>>10844069
The real one iranid or CHG is actuallly 14-15% on brits it doesn´t reach 20%, and 30% only in avars
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Another that where the syrian schizo posts his random garbage in obsession.
what a mental disease
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>>10839749
Portugal consolidated itself as a nation state very early, had a large merchant class with mutual support from the Monarch which was eager to find a better to acquire and sell spices and it was also in the middle of an important trading route where sailors would frequently stop by. Of course some of the knowledge and tools they acquired through the moors also helped, but it was one factor among many.
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>>10844069
So the difference between iberians and moroccans is moroccans have a litle yoruba and iberians have some WHG and some more steppe and less maurusian?
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>>10845493
Yes, the difference it's huge. Iberians are like 30% Steppe PIE.
Moroccans have obviously more of their own component MARibm and way less WHG and less Farmer Barcin. Also have some SSA yoruba above 6%, depends on the region
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>>10843323
this
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>>10843344
What?
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>>10844282
All peer reviewed studies pal
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>>10848084
indeed:>>10843380
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>>10848084
back to syria
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>>10845493
So basically they are completely different? Yeah.
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>>10844282
This fucking imbecile didn't even read THE FUCKING TITLE of the study
kill yourself pathetic rapebaby
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>>10848862
What tittle of what study?
It has samples from all iberians:>>10843380

Iberians are classic west european population.
WHG, Farmer, Steppe Pastoralist>>10844069
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>>10848911
>What tittle of what study?
The one you clearly didn't read, dumb mongrel

>It has samples from all iberians
No it doesn't, it has basques only
You're a braindead moron
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>>10848862
The syrian gaylord keeps coming back for more, he must really like having his asshole ravaged
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>>10848777
C H E C K E D

go back to syria, camel rider
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Imagine being a samefagging mutt with negroid blood that doesn't know how to read lmao
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>>10848997
Imagine being syrian
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>>10848785
Just a swap of maurisian-like for EHG-like
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>Imagine being syrian
ok rapebaby
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>>10848961
ROTFL
it has from all iberians you retard:>>10843380
read, fom castille and leon to andalucia, from galicia to murcia

>>10848997
Imagine post the same lies over and over and over, like a mentally ill person
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>>10849046
You have to post more gypsies.
Natives (pic)
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>You have to post more gypsies.
>Natives (pic)
700 years, rapebaby
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>>10849295
kek, saved
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>>10849295
>>10849378
Samefaggots
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seethe
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I understand why middle easterners get on so well in brazil after knowing they have yoruba
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>>10840020
This is just because of the SSA lol
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>>10849074
t. didnt read the study
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>>10851018
they why do you talk about it syrian schizo?
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bump
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>>10852180
>substancial
>0-5

keep trying syrian schizo
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>>10852195
It goes as high as 22% and that's only the north African admixture, there's also Semitic and sub-Saharan
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>>10852406
The 22% figure comes from Y-DNA haplogroups you retard lmfaoo click the hyperlink
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>>10852406
>22%
lmao shut the fuck up retard
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>>10852406
Its a refference to another study that uses haplomemes you autist, this same studies says the following
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>>10852409
>>10852414
>>10852432
Absolutely assblasted lmao
You will always be a rapebaby mutt
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>>10852469
nigga its a haplogroup, the same study says admixture is 0-11
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Just to say that unlike syrians that don't clust with ancient levantines, modern iberians clust with their Late Bronze Age and Iron Age forebears.

Said that, Spain was great because of all good things moors left there (cities, technology, infrastructures, agrarian techniques, etc) and not because of european influences, that were mostly destructive.
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>>10852477
~0 north African is the average for basques (which are a tiny fraction of the total population), just like that 22% is an outlier, which makes the average muttberian around 11% north African + 11% Semitic and 2-3% sub Saharan
They will never admit this though
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>>10852406
Wrong syrian sandnigga (pic)
that's haplomemes. E1b that's not even NA, and much less 20% anywhere.

>>10852432
This.
The syrian mongrel is completely delusional, a random shitskin liar
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>>10852519
Nigger the 22% study uses haplogroups. Just click on it and do ctrl+f haplogroup. The very same 0-11% puts Madrid which is the most populous place in Iberia to be at 5%. How the fuck would the avg be 11% when Galicia was the highest at 11% and nobody even lives there.
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>>10852519
all false, even your own picture is false.
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>>10852533
>muh haplomemes
So suddenly you have the ability to read studies? Lmao ok
Here's an autosomal study that yet again proves how much of a mongrel you are
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>>10852534
Galicia scores 5% according to the latest study:>>10843380

from March 2021

The syrian schizo is lunatic.
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>>10852558
If were just using Taforalt then yes, it's even as low as 5%. It's a good thing nobody believes his bullshit though. It's funny that he simeultaneously screencapped a comment from the Patterns study but ignored the 0-11% figure which even maps out avg NWafrican ancestry in Iberia.
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>>10852551
your own picture debunks you syrian mongrel, look that you claimed SSA was 2-3 and your picture shows it's zero. And the same for NA that is 0-5. Your own picture debunks you retarded mongrel.


Why do you think iberians always cluster with the rest of europeans and with no closeness to any non-european population.
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>>10852576
No, it was not using tarofalt. read the study, it was not only using tarofalt.
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>>10852585
It depends on how the north African population is interpreted, considering north Africans have sub Saharan admixture, they can either interpret them as unmixed or separate the sub-Saharan component, which is why a ton of other studies show mongrelberians have negroid admixture but not other europeans
But of course a retard that doesn't even read studies wouldn't know that
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>>10852607
More lies, when there is sampling it shows always the same.
0-5 NA avg
and
0-1 SSA

Also your picture is fake like pretty much all you you say is false, like always syrian mongrel

>"Genetic distances and principal component analyses show a clear differentiation of NW African and Iberian groups of samples, suggesting a strong genetic barrier matching the geographical Mediterranean Sea barrier. The restriction to gene flow may be attributed to the navigational hazards across the Straits, but cultural factors must also have played a role. ... Iberian samples show a substantial degree of homogeneity and fall within the cluster of European-based genetic diversity."
>(Comas et al.)

>"A study by Auton et al. 2009, which also contains an admixture analysis chart but no cluster membership coefficients, shows little to no sub-Saharan African influence in a wide array of European samples, i.e. Albanians, Austrians, Belgians, Bosnians, Bulgarians, Croatians, Cypriots, Czechs, Danes, Finns, Frenchmen, Germans, Greeks, Hungarians, Irish, Italians, Kosovars, Latvians, Macedonians, Netherlanders, Norwegians, Poles, Portuguese, Romanians, Russians, Scots, Serbians, Slovakians, Slovenians, Spaniards, Swedes, Swiss (German, French and Italian), Ukrainians, United Kingdom and Yugoslavians."
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>>10852700
cope schizo
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>>10852704
lol
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What's even the thing of the famous syrian?.....

He wants to claim spanish are moors when they have 1 digit North African..?

lol
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>>10852585
Left that dumb saracen screech alone, all genetic studies show that the only group that partially changed spaniards genetically were romans during the conquest of the peninsula and frenchs during the reconquest (spaniards gave to many french inmigrants lands to settle in the borders of the reconquered lands).

Even genetically spaniards clust more with frenchs than with any other group.
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>There is an axis of significant genetic differentiation along the east–west direction, in contrast to remarkable genetic similarity in the north–south direction. North African admixture, associated with the Islamic conquest, can be dated to the period between c. AD 860–1120
>To distinguish between possible scenarios that could produce these patterns, we applied the GLOBETROTTER method to each of our six clusters (Methods). GLOBETROTTER infers dates of admixture and the make-up of the source populations, and tests whether admixture patterns are consistent with a simple mixing of two groups at a single time in the past, compared to more complex alternative models. GLOBETROTTER found strong evidence (p<0.01) of admixture for all six clusters.

>For all six clusters, an extremely similar event was inferred, in a tight time-range of 860–1120 CE, and with similar source groups, present in varying proportions (4–10% for the minor group). The major source was inferred to contain almost exclusively European donor groups, and the minor source is made up of mainly north-west African donor groups, including Western Sahara, and to a lesser extent west Africans (YRI), consistent with the overall ancestry profiles.

>The ‘Portugal-Andalucia’ cluster shows the greatest YRI contribution, and also shows some evidence of a second admixture date, with a more recent event involving only sub-Saharan-African-like and European-like source groups. This indicates a recent pulse of sub-Saharan African DNA, independent of the north African component.

mongrelberians on suicide watch
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>>10852730
He is mentally ill.
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>>10852715
syrian shitholer
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>>10852730
Yeah this guy seriously can't understand the very study he references.
>>10852745
Dude. Read the fucking study. This same study says the admixture is 0-11% in Iberians with an avg of 3-6% in Castille and peaking in Galicia.
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>syrian shitholer
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>>10852745
TROTTER detects the most recent pulse, but it can´t quantify it, it could be 1% it could be even 0,00001%, do you understand that? if it finds a pulse it will point it, but not understand the x% how much it's recent how much is ancient.
Specially in areas NEVER populated by medieval moors like galicia and asturias or northern portugal, and specially without ancient samples.

>"Phylogeographic analyses show that the haplogroup composition of the ancient Iberians was very similar to that found in modern Iberian Peninsula populations, suggesting a long-term genetic continuity since pre-Roman times. (...)
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>Yeah this guy seriously can't understand the very study he references.
Subhuman, you don't even READ the studies lmfao
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>>10852725
more or less that
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>>10852783
cry louder syrian subhuman
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>when the entire field of archeogenetics is fake because it proves you're an Africanoid and Semitic mongrel
just muttberian things
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>>10852801
try using a company that actually separates the already mongrelized muttberian population
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>>10852809
The entire field of archeogenetics proved you wrong, just read all the studies above.

They show spaniards or portugese cluster with the rest of europeans and having the same elements of the rest of europeans, unironically they are whither than the majority of the rest of the europeans:>>10840650
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>>10852809
more fake stuff, by another arab. a classic.
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you will always be a negroid
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>>10852809
>>10852814
You will never be white or European.
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>>10852814
Something that your own picture does not retarded syrian shitskin
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>>10839749
To the Iberians itt.
Your white to me
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you will always be a rapebaby
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>>10852845
Try harder syrian
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>>10852861
>>10852845
Try harder
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>Try harder syrian
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>>10852877
post more gypsies or immigrants and claim they are french, english or spanish or portugese.
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>>10852873
kek
syrian btfo
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>>10852885
He has been btfo (again), at this point is pure bait shitpost to cause butthurt
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>post more gypsies or immigrants and claim they are french, english or spanish or portugese.
meanwhile in reality muttberians are """""mistaken""""" for arabs and north Africans in white countries lol
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>>10852893
we know, it's just to keep him here, everybody laughs
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>>10852897
Cape verdeans
Cape verdeans
Cape verdeans

with portuguese passports, try harder, try again
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For everyone in this thread:
Have sex
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>>10852908
native portuguese
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>>10852873
Look at where Basques are in your pic. Iron Age Iberians were similar to Basques. To produce modern Iberians you need Italian and Nafri admixture.
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>>10852893
>y-y-u got btfo
It's impossible to argue with a subhuman with the argumentative skils of a 5 year old at best, you use studies that you haven't even read as evidence, you claim every single thing presented to you is fake without giving any convincing arguments, you samefag and project like a faggot, when asked to actually present evidence you don't because you're a fucking moron

>>10852908
Like this, show me the evidence that proves they were cape verdeans, you literally can't because that's bullshit and you say I'm the liar lol please
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>>10852920
cherry picking :p
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>>10852946
>Iron Age Iberians were similar to Basques

Wrong , iron age basques or northeast iberians iron age are similar to basques, where are your iron age samples from galicia, asturias, extremadura, portugal, madrid?

>italian

it has nothing to do with italians, but with the same pops that amde italians, mainly the same combo farmer and steppe

>Nafri

Irrelevant, 5% 6% any other euro has way more iranid related.
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>>10852949
And he keeps posting news about blacks or non europeans with european passports, you are really mentally ill
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>>10852953
No really:

Hundreds if not thousands of portuguese people passing by:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix5p1kcsjNs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvs5AYlgzuk
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>>10852990
Then prove they were immigrants, you can't prove that and you expect me to take seriously ANY of your claims on genetics?
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>>10853004
already proved retard:>>10852908

On genetics you have been assblasted over and over on literally everything

And you keep using immigrants again and agaiin

https://www.thenationalnews.com/sport/football/fifteen-years-after-the-shame-in-madrid-at-least-england-players-are-now-empowered-to-speak-out-1.924042
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>>10840444
retard, pcas are 3d, this is 2d representation, so it's oriented in a shitty way

even arabs should be closer to europeans
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>>10852856
Thank you babe. I wanna suck your MDC (MONSTER DUTCH COCK)
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>>10853030
>already proved retard
No you didn't you disingenous mutt, I know you're mentally handicapped so I'm gonna explain basic logic to you like you're 5, you see, that news article has zero to do with the one I posted
I'm asking for evidence that proves they were immigrants in this specific case >>10852897

There's something called credibility and if can't provide evidence for something so simple then guess what? You have zero credibility in any of your claims
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>>10852997
Yeah all these people look white to me. Is this an accurate representation of Iberians?
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>>10853046
The digits say otherwise.
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>>10853070
Yes i did you shitskin disingenous mongret, I know you're mentally handicapped so I'm gonna explain basic logic to you like you're 5, you see, that news article has everything to do with the other, because they both show cape verdeans with european passports, in this case from Portugal
read:>>10852908

There's something called credibility and if can't provide evidence for something so simple then guess what? You have zero credibility in any of your claims

English people were victim of racism in Sain, trust me, oh no, like always it was black immigrats with english passports:>>10853030
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>>10853085
yes
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>>10853070
This is the portuguese embassy in London, 3/4 of the people there are not portuguese (ethnic), but non-europeans with portuguese passports gave by politicians.

Just sfu because you don´t know what the hell you are talking about sandnigga syrian schizo
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This entire thread
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Jesus, the syrian is loosing grip..... he is literally posting news of racist attacks to claim iberians are this and that......

man seriously, you need mental help.
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>>10853090
>n-n-no u
extremely predictable response, you can't prove your bullshit lie that that specific case were immigrants so you retort with a disingenous and fallacious response. You know someone is a retard when they can only respond with argumentative fallacies

Btw, muttberians are indistinguishable from arabs and nafris, that's why they're constantly attacked in white countries
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157 posts on this thread probably 100 done by the crazy Syrio......
Just don´t answer to him...... everybody knows he is crazy...
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>>10853158
More of the classic lies.
The news were lies, since they were not about iberians, and 90% of the rest his own images debunk him.
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>157 posts on this thread probably 100 done by the crazy Syrio......
>Just don´t answer to him...... everybody knows he is crazy...
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>>10853170
>since they were not about iberians
Then PROVE those SPECIFIC cases were not Iberians, mongrel
You have zero credibility
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>>10852949
>>10852897
>>10853070
>>10853158

Who are you trying to fool retard?
do you think we are stupid?

It's immigrants from africa or brazil or whatever with portuguese papers, look at the picture of those students, of the the student that complained about the attack.
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>>10853229
as expected the Syrian is BTFO again and again.
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>>10853229
1. That's not the same case, the location is different
2. Unlike you I actually read, I just translated it and she was with a Spaniard and an Italian and they were ALSO attacked lmfao muttberians and italians are basically negroes

>Uma estudante portuguesa de origem guineense, Linda Pereira, descreveu esta quarta-feira à noite as agressões com motivação racista de que foi alvo na localidade de Sosnowiec, região polaca da Silésia, contando que ela e os amigos, espanhóis e italianos, foram espancados num bar sem que ninguém os ajudasse.

Translated:
>A Portuguese student of Guinean origin, Linda Pereira, described this Wednesday night the racially motivated assaults suffered in the town of Sosnowiec, in the Polish region of Silesia, saying that she and her friends, Spanish and Italian, were beaten in a bar without anyone helping them.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/amp/estudante-portuguesa-relata-agressoes-racistas-na-polonia-estava-em-panico

Thanks for the shitposting material though :)
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This is why muttberians deny their Moor admixture, Iberian women loved getting bred by big Moor cocks for centuries

>In Al-Andalus existed well nourished and famous as that of Madinat Al-Zahra harems, at the time of the Umayyad Caliphate which had 6,300 women (including slaves), or the harem of the King of Seville which provided over 800 women when he went into exile. The prestige of a sovereign andalusí also measured by the number of women who could keep his harem and this often included women who had belonged to his predecessors in power
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>>10852978
>italian
>it has nothing to do with italians, but with the same pops that amde italians, mainly the same combo farmer and steppe

The level of cope. They used Imperial/late antiquity Romans in the model.
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>>10853344
Iberian conquistadors raped and slaughtered moors.
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>>10853397
>the delusional mongrel actually believes this
Pic related: Moroccan y-dna
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>>10853417
Pic related: rapebabyrean y-dna
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>>10853370
>The level of cope. They used Imperial/late antiquity Romans in the model.

Indeed retard.
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>>10853344
>>10853417
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>>10853316
So you got fucked again. Because as always and as said it's immigrants, not native/ethnic spanish or portuguese, and every single time.
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>>10853316
You are really mental aren´t you?
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>>10853486
>it's immigrants
Oh so they were immigrants too? Ok lol
Average mongrelberian white nationalist gets """"confused"""" for an arab by Russians while he streams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opVLKujyq-g&t=446s
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Un arabe à Moscou....
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>>10853631
Those were Chechens, not Arabs. They mistook him for one of them.
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>>10853677
>Arabs
>Russia
He got mistook for the same people who ruled over Slavshit subhumans
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>>10840537
Which version is more accurate?
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>>10853697
>>10853697
>>10853724
>>10853726
Cope harder rapebaby
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>>10853724
the fuck do you mean? ive spent all my life in georgia and he literally looks like russian otbroski that come here on daddy's money to fuck 40+ coked out asian whores
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>>10853697
More lies from the syrian mongrel, now he even posts an italian (daniel conversano), and claims he is iberian

Literally 99% the things he posts are false.
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>>10853760
it's over for italians
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>>10853747
Cope harder, posting proto-berber pre-historical caucasid.
Iberians are whiter than the majority of other europeans retard>>10840650
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>>10853771
Why would it be, they are europeans and some of the most glorious nationalities of this continent
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The syrian is delusional
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>>10853760
>23andme
see >>10852814
and stay mad Africoid rapebaby
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>>10853797
Well do you really believe germans are 5% middle eastern? see:>>10852854

pic related closest populations in the world genetically closer to iberians. all the other europeans.
no non-european population is even close.
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>>10853797
stay salty syrian goatfucker
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>proto-berber pre-historical caucasid
>Iberians are whiter than the majority of other europeans retard
AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>10839749
Half of the spics named Perez are Moorish rapebabies.
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>>10853857
dilate and sethee syrian goblin
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>>10853760
KEK he is totally insane
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>>10853878
>being so assblasted that he samefags nonstop
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>>10853914
oh and the syrian keeps posting more migrants, this one a brazilian
get another assblast
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>>10853914
Where is Syria?
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Why is syria a third world shithole?
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>samefagging again
mutt confirmed
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>>10853344
cool story, but non-sense.

Been there in 2014 and 2015 (Porto and Lisbon) and they don´t look like moroccans. They look like people from Toulouse or south french in general
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>>10853978
How come they're Africanoid mutts with negroid blood then?

>The ‘Portugal-Andalucia’ cluster shows the greatest YRI contribution, and also shows some evidence of a second admixture date, with a more recent event involving only sub-Saharan-African-like and European-like source groups. This indicates a recent pulse of sub-Saharan African DNA, independent of the north African component.
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this why mongrelberians are so ashamed of their Moor blood, they got raped hard by a couple of Moors and turned into self hating rapebaby mutts lol

>According to the later chronicler Ibn Abd al-Hakam, the Tangier governor Tariq ibn Ziyad led a raiding force of approximately 1,700 men from North Africa to southern Spain in 711
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>A fucking Syrian.

Those guys are hardcore Sandniggers.
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>>10853631
>>10853697
This guys is Italian lol
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>>10854351
He's half french and half italian
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>>10854359
kek
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>>10854351
>>10854359
Pic rel is half-Dutch and half-Spanish
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>>10853760
Also, this guy looks more like a mutt of everything rather than half-French, half-Italian.
>10% Iberian
>5% Balkan
>20% unspecified South Euro
>10% Northwest Euro

He doesn't even get any French & German there.
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>>10854425
He doesn't really look like his father at all.
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Did you know? Iberian """""men"""""" were commonly turned into eunuchs during Al-Andalus, they had their balls and dicks chopped off and were forced to lick the MOOR BVLL's semen out of the Iberian women's fertile vaginas
This is how modern mongrelberian rapebabies were created and this is why they hate their African blood lol
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This thread is schizo tier
Portugal is based and white obviously
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>>10854546
Based.
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>>10854497
Dude Is half SE French from Rhone Alps. Literally MED Occitan BVLLS.
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Arabs are terrible sailors. They've never been big on the sea, always tended to utilize locals (Levantines, Berbers, Andalusians) to do it for them.
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>>10854016
How come what? retard

0,x
0,y
0,z
zero, yes it's there 0-1:>>10840503

>"In a sample of 328 Northern and 57 Southern Portuguese, no Y-chromosomes of sub-Saharan African origin were detected. Another study found 3 E(xE3b) sequences in a sample of 99 Portuguese, evenly divided between Northerners and Southerners. The estimated grand total of Negroid paternal admixture in Portugal is therefore 0.6%.">(Rosser et al. 2000;Cruciani et al. )
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>This thread is schizo tier
>Portugal is based and white obviously
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>>10854894
>2000
I can't take these rapebabies seriously
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>>10854890
Was the sailing prowess of berbers genetically shared in the spanish?
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>>10854835
You know they're brown because they have the same weird cope images of the cherrypicked lightskins that iranians do
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>>10854981
>posts pic with an immigrant.

always
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>>10855555
Then how do you explain europeans (spanish poruguese or french) only cluster with other europeans and have no genetic relation with 'brown' non-euro populations
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>>10855000
cry louder syrian mutant.
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>>10855699
what the fuck does that mean shitskin lmao
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>>10855744
genetic proximity sandape
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>>10855715
>turkey is almost green
kek
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>>10855674
>>10855774
You will always be an Africoid rapebaby.
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>>10855847
>>10855774
Settle this once and for all faggots. Both of you post your hand with timestamp.
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>>10855847
Dude you are a syrian, literally an ibread semitic ethiopian
look where are syrians genetically, then look where is spain or portugal or france:

>>10852873
>>10852873
>>10852873
>>10852873

kek
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>>10855880
>semitic ethiopian
>ethiopian
funnily enough mongrelberians seem to be related to Ethiopians
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>>10855901
Then why genetics show they are zero related with ethiopians:>>10852195
Also eupedia meme maps caucasid dna, let me guess pic related
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>>10855901
Post hand with timestamp
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>>10855901
Time to take the medication shitskin mongrel
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iberians are classic west med and atlantic population, obviously europeans.
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>>10855933
You came from an actual Congoid negro's balls, just let that sink in
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>>10855976
what the fuck
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>>10855976
My haplogroup is r1b-l21 thoughp
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>>10855976
Posts the haplomeme of Napoleon Bonapart and AdolfH E1b LMAO
Syrian low iq classics

Iberians are zero related with congoids like you. Like all studies and genetics show above.

Unicronically even andalucians are even closer to even a Russian 5000km away than to a moroccan.
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>>10856014
exactly
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>>10856014
syrian IQ is like what 75-80?
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>>10856064
83
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>>10856085
KEK
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>>10856014
Yet Spaniards are on aveage 60% Moroccan 40% European.
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The absolute state of Negroberians.
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>mongrel is samefagging again
Funny how this """"haplomeme"""" is absent in real white countries but has a global maximum presence in negroidberia
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>>10856170
kek
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>>10855555
Quints of Truth
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>>10855555
>those digits
Iberians are not white confirmed
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>>10854890
Not Syrian or iberian but.
>levantine
Arabs are levantine and their language originates in levant.
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>>10856491
Isn't it from ethiopia?
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>>10856170
Nice edit retard
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>>10856181
and the shitskin syrian keeps posting the haplomeme of napoleon and adolfh
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>>10856162
rotfl
False, they are not even 10% NA, any other european marks way more iranid stuff.. Why do you think they are not close to any non european population genetically like all those maps above show:>>10855968 >>10852873
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>>10856968
>False, they are not even 10% NA
Dude, you know moroccans aren't 100% Iberomaurusian right.....
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>>10852856
man I wish I were dutch

>still get to be uber white
>and also get weed
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>>10857001
That's not the point. If we want to estimate moorish ancestry than the 0-11% figure is correct. If we want to calculate purely iron age morrocan it would drop to 0-7.5% because morrocans are 1/4 iberian bell beaker. Then if we want pre-neolithic we have to erase morrocan eef because it comes from Iberia. A purely "Morrocan" group would be Taforalt.
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>>10857028
But 100% Iberomaurisian groups don't even exist...?
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>>10849046
>>10849080
Seething lol
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>>10840111
north morocco isn't iberian
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>>10854497
His "French" mother is probably a kike or a gypsie.
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>>10854546
Eunuchs are still very common in Spain, Al-Andalus definitely left a mark on them
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>>10856968
>Andalusian iberomaurusian is a quarter of north moroccan

So andalusians are a quarter moroccan? Cool
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Huh....
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>>10857001
No one is 100% anything, iberomaurussian is the only component that is native from moroccans. So that's the only direct source to see how much dna there are on europeans.
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>>10857028
>>10857001
The most recent study, called, "Genetic origins, singularity, and heterogeneity of Basques" by Andre Flores-Bello et al 2021

..analyzed that, and it gave 0-5% on iberians:>>10843380

And the source was not Iberomaurusians:>>10853370 But the mozabite.
Galicians or Extremadura and by extension portugal and spain marked the laughable value of 5%

https://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdfExtended/S0960-9822(21)00349-3

So notice the entire spam done by the canadian syrian, is about 5%. This is the level of disease this thread is about..
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>>10857176
They are not even 7%. If they were 1/4, something they aren´t obviously. Why do you think moroccans are not even in their first 35 closest populations? even norweigens or sanes and russians are closer, check:>>10853818
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>>10857492
If you stopped replying to him he would have no one to respond to, you do realize that right?
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>>10854835
even in this cherrypicked picture, they still look moor i'm a moor and i wouldn't even think they are foreign in the street of Casa Algiers or Tunis, and even the clothes are moorish clothes all berbers in the mountains wear this shit.
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>>10855744
it means it take a full moor to be included so that you cluster with european when you zoom to the european cluster the iberians are on the edge barely european, it means every iberian walking today his blood is tainted by the moors the only way out of this is a mass suicide of all iberians.
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>>10857492
This study uses basque samples ONLY, NOT AVERAGE IBERIANS

YOU FUCKING NEGATIVE IQ IMBECILE LITERALLY READ THE FUCKING TITLE AT LEAST YOU UTTER BRAINDEAD MORON
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2 posts on this thread

>>10857674
No it is not basque samples only, it is not.
Are you blind?:>>10857492 look at the regions.

See the image, the samples from the study. Or open the study.
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>>10857674
>Read the tittle.
LMAO

it has samples from all iberian peninsula you dumb fuck:>>10843380
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>>10857595
sure sure
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>iberians are not nigge-
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>>10857533
According to your logic moroccans are only 30% moroccan lmao
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>>10857778
>light eyes and hair or not make you a nig
>even when they are zero nig
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>>10857782
No they are 100% moroccan. Like french and 100% french. On ancient segments neither them, neither french are 100% anthing, but parts of ancient populations.
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>>10857796
Iberomaurisian is not native to europe
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>>10857800
indeed, neither is Iranian Neolithic:>>10840650 and way more
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>>10857726
>>10857737
>>10857747
>Basques have historically lived along the Western Pyrenees, in the Franco-Cantabrian region, straddling the current Spanish and French territories. Over the last decades, they have been the focus of intense research
due to their singular cultural and biological traits that, with high controversy, placed them as a heterogeneous, isolated, and unique population. Their non-Indo-European language, Euskara, is thought to be a major
factor shaping the genetic landscape of the Basques. Yet there is still a lively debate about their history and assumed singularity due to the limitations of previous studies. Here, we analyze genome-wide data of Basque and surrounding groups that do not speak Euskara at a micro-geographical level. A total of 629,000 genome-wide variants were analyzed in 1,970 modern and ancient samples, including 190 new individuals from 18 sampling locations in the Basque area. For the first time, local- and wide-scale analyses from genome-wide data have been performed covering the whole Franco-Cantabrian region, combining allele frequency and haplotype-based methods. Our results show a clear differentiation of Basques from the surrounding populations, with the non-Euskara-speaking Franco-Cantabrians located in an intermediate position. Moreover, a sharp genetic heterogeneity within Basques is observed with significant correlation with
geography. Finally, the detected Basque differentiation cannot be attributed to an external origin compared to other Iberian and surrounding populations. Instead, we show that such differentiation results from genetic
continuity since the Iron Age, characterized by periods of isolation and lack of recent gene flow that might have been reinforced by the language barrier.

READ that (if you even have the mental capacity to read more than two sentences) and tell me if those are a representative sample for all Iberians, no they're obviously not you fucking dumb animal
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>>10857810
No anon, Iran neolithic was here ages ago through yamnaya, but iberomaurusian was never here in ancient times
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>>10857176
Actually doesn't having a quarter equate to essentially having one full blooded moroccan grandparent...?
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>>10857817
i'll even make you a favor and greentext it correctly so that your barely functioning brain does't get confused:

>Basques have historically lived along the Western Pyrenees, in the Franco-Cantabrian region, straddling the current Spanish and French territories. Over the last decades, they have been the focus of intense research due to their singular cultural and biological traits that, with high controversy, placed them as a heterogeneous, isolated, and unique population. Their non-Indo-European language, Euskara, is thought to be a major factor shaping the genetic landscape of the Basques. Yet there is still a lively debate about their history and assumed singularity due to the limitations of previous studies. Here, we analyze genome-wide data of Basque and surrounding groups that do not speak Euskara at a micro-geographical level. A total of 629,000 genome-wide variants were analyzed in 1,970 modern and ancient samples, including 190 new individuals from 18 sampling locations in the Basque area. For the first time, local- and wide-scale analyses from genome-wide data have been performed covering the whole Franco-Cantabrian region, combining allele frequency and haplotype-based methods. Our results show a clear differentiation of Basques from the surrounding populations, with the non-Euskara-speaking Franco-Cantabrians located in an intermediate position. Moreover, a sharp genetic heterogeneity within Basques is observed with significant correlation with geography. Finally, the detected Basque differentiation cannot be attributed to an external origin compared to other Iberian and surrounding populations. Instead, we show that such differentiation results from genetic continuity since the Iron Age, characterized by periods of isolation and lack of recent gene flow that might have been reinforced by the language barrier.
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>>10857817
What representative moron?

They have basque samples and they have iberian samples from all regions, open the study, read what the anon showed you:>>10843380

LOOK at the pictures with the regions, showing each % for each compoennt for each region. literally hundreds of samples from the IBS from all the regions, and from basques too, from all iberians.:>>10857726 >>10857492
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>>10857849
The fact that he can't read the words "andalusia" or "catalunya" on that image proves that the Syrian average IQ isn't very impressive at all.
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>>10857820
Yes anon, Iran neolithic it's not native from europe, it's from Iran (outside of Europe), and iberomaurusian was here in ancient times. We have samples of it. I will not even talk about the nord asiadid
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>>10857855
true, he can´t even read
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>>10857856
Anon, iran neolithic as a model matches with european populations because it can model as indo-european, which was in europe before there was even civilization. All major european languages are indo-european. The iberomaurusian in spain is from after islam existed.
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>>10857849
>They have basque samples and they have iberian samples from all regions
Those are Basques living in surrounding regions of the basque country you actual subhuman, and you'd know that if you actually read the fucking study

YOU LITERALLY DO NOT FUCKING READ THE SHIT YOU POST LMFAO
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>>10857879
No it's not retard, stop lying, it makes you look even more stupid than you already are

Bronze age, thousands of years before islam even exist.
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>>10857883
The syrian is claiming it's Basques living in galicia, extremadura, castille, andalucia in all spanish regions

LMAO
LMAO
LMAO

MY SIDES
you are 100% mental
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>>10857883
>Here, we analyze genome-wide data of Basque and surrounding groups

Key word: surrounding groups. The study has samples from Andalucia, Galicia, Gascony, Castille, Catalonia, etc. Those are non-basque peoples. If you can't understand it, I'll just assume that you don't know how to read, which would be understandable considering the fact that the average IQ in Syria is of 83.
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>>10857904
Dude what the fuck? Gross. We need to get rid of spanish people. No wonder you opened the gates for moors
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>>10857924
You got fucked hard shitskin, cope and sethee more
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>>10857932
monkey
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>>10857934
>t.projecting hybrid
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The problem os WHAT people use as model for "north african". They used north moroccoans who are 25-30% iberian on average, and thus any Spaniard that gets compared with the model will get....ta-chan...."north african"

It is an issue of modelization. It is impossible that northafricans were massively on boats 8000 years ago even kn the deepest corners of northern Spain, and thus, it makes the model fake.
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>>10856181
How do you explain the moorish in NE France, Switzerland, Italy and balkans?

Are they also moroccoans?
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>>10858099
North africa and the balkans were part of the same empire for centuries
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>>10854503
The negroid aspect comes from his dutch mother.
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>>10858142
cringe
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>>10857747
your post dosen't refute what i said a cherry picked picture of 6 very young beautiful girls photographed in certain angle and with lightining for commercial purpose, vs a non cherrypicked protest made by leftist syndicats who are mostly men, and the one woman screaming which made me even laugh cause i know that crazy bitch personally and she is an ugly femcel a radical communist and in no way she represent the average tunisian.
the portuguese girls all of them are very common in tunisia, and you don't know tunisia or met more tunisians than me.
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>>10858142
he dosen't look negroid, he look moorish af.
pic the average modern nafri he look alot like him.
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>>10858015
there is not one moroccan who is 25-30% iberian get real faggot, even a nafri with a full spanish mother can't get that pourcentage, at best a nafri get 12% iberian and it's rare to reach more than 10%, the whitest nafri are some isolated kabylians and riffiaans and they get 100% nafri.
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>>10858099
no the balkan descend from a neolithic farmers population of the levant, E-v13 the neolithic farmers of the levant are mostly descended of the natufians, who are originally north africans hunter-gatherers who were known as the Mushabian culture, which is related if not descended from the Iberomaurisian, E-M78 and E-M81 when the mushabian crossed to the levant they mixed with the Kebaran local levantine hunter-gatherer and became the natufians and there they discovred agriculture and spread the semitic branch of the afroasiatic language in the middle east, and probably to the balkan too before the indo-europeans arrival, and even some of their branches migrated back to east africa, horners eurasian ancestory directly come from the levant and natufian descend population, anyway this is why ashkhenazi jews generally cluster close to the dorian greeks both natufian descended.
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>>10857923
The point of the study is to measure the origin and genetic evolution of Basques (that's basically the name of the study), which is why the second highlight of the study says "Basque differentiation might lie on the absence of gene flow after the Iron Ages", which is why the Basque samples used are more numerous than the non-basque samples from other regions of the peninsula, which are 1-2 at best because those are the least mixed non-Basques they could find so that they could obtain that cline of non-basque admixture after the iron age. The study is focused on Basques, not average Iberians, it's not supposed to be a representative study of average Iberians,

You have once again disingenously interpreted a study or just didn't read it at all, I rest my case
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>>10858428
>>10858436
You don't rest shit, the study is using samples from all over the peninsula, you're obsessed, mentally ill and your blacked fantasies won't let you think clearly. Good night.
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>>10858504
seriously, don't post that study again, it really doesn't mean what you think it means and you posting it clearly shows that you don't read shit
you'll embarass yourself yet again
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>>10858519
based
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>>10858428
Moortushit btfo
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>>10858428
>those are the least mixed non-Basques they could find so that they could obtain that cline of non-basque admixture after the iron age. The study is focused on Basques, not average Iberians, it's not supposed to be a representative study of average Iberians,
I understand now, this is what they've been waving around lol?
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>>10857492
Syrian abomination BTFO

but nothing strange
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>>10858436
>>10858428
For tthis case a couple of samples is more than enough, because you have them for every single region, on contrary of what you were claiming, and also because, ALL samples usually give the same results
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>>10858830
>>10859211
hilarious mentally ill syrian samefag
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>>10852500
What happened that modern Syrians don‘t cluster with ancient syrians?
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>>10852791
Can you read? Bedouines and Saudis aren‘t north africans. Arabia lies in Eurasia.



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