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Why did marrying people under 18 became taboo in the western world? For centuries people under 18 were expected to go to war, work full time and have children. What changed in the 19th/20th century that suddenly made the society perceive teenagers as basically oversized babies?
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>>10839652
Because we stopped being fucking retarded
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>>10839652
who cares nigga you are an incel virgin freak anyways its not like you were gonna get any
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average marriage age has been in the late teens and early 20s for literal millennia for everyone but degenerate nobles
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>>10839652
Elites monopolised teen pussy for themselves because it's so good
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>>10839652
Industrialization replaced a lot of manual labor jobs with machinery. This increased the importance of spending your teens and twenties focusing on education. Teenage moms also started to drain welfare systems once those became a thing.
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Because of public high school
they wanted girls to finish high school before getting pregnant
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>>10839652
Feminists over 100 years ago wanted it to be changed to 18 years old. They didn't want it to be changed because they actually thought men were taking advantage of them no no no, instead, they wanted it to be changed because they wanted to be able to whore themselves out before the age of 18, which they do now. The aoc being 18 is completely unscientific and everyone else is forced to believe in it otherwise you'll be lamblasted as a freak. The whole purpose of the aoc being 18 was all in the name of the contradiction known as "equality". This is one of the major factors of why birth rates are down, because women are taught that sex does not have to be used primarily for reproduction and go years without conceiving when they had previously done so between the ages 14-16 years old. Couple this with schools scaring people with how much it costs to raise a baby and teachers forcing their students with giving people plastic babies with alarms in them, it's no wonder why the birth rates have taken a nose dive. You are literally taking care of an alarm clock that you have no attachment to, so it is no wonder that women no longer want to breed
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Why not just say what you really mean? Oh wait you can’t because you’re a coward with disgusting beliefs so you have to inch around it until someone does it for you.
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>>10839652
I can tell you’re American because this is the case literally only there. The rest of the west has an aoc of 14-16. Only burgerland went this far, and I think some states are even still 16. But I don’t think that’s what you wanted me to say anon
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>MUH EBIN CUNNY AMIRIGHT BROS (((THEY))) TOOK THIS FROM US
Imagine designating the responsibly of being a house wife and mother to a fucking retarded child.
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>>10840438
lol sure thing
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>>10839652
Die, pedo
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>>10840456
Not an argument.
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It all started with Mary Ellen Wilson
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>>10840475
What does a 13 year old offer you besides pussy? Are you such an emotionally stunted manchild that you can relate to a teenage zoomer?
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The European marriage pattern, in which men and women married after 18, was established in the middle ages due to the church doctrine of marriage by mutual consent. Marriage before 18 to far older men, which was typical of girls in other societies, was a result of abusive systems of arranged marriage.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1468-0289.2009.00483.x
>Because men and women chose their own partner, marriage under the EMP was mainly the result of a search process that could only be undertaken by young men and women mature enough to select their own partner; hence the average age of marriage was at least 18 to 20 years. In contrast, systems of arranged marriages were characterized by much lower average ages, especially for girls.

>it seems that in 1505 in Zeeland the age of marriage of farmers and craftsmen was 20 years or somewhat less. For 1540–1... in the countryside around Leiden... It appears that women probably married at the age of 20–1, whereas men were one or two years older; nevertheless, a large share of men and women married before they reached the age of 20. These estimates are comparable to those for fifteenth-century England, which show a range between about 18 and 23 years (for women). Goldberg suggests for example, that rural women in Yorkshire married in their late teens and early twenties, but urban women waited until their early to mid-twenties... In the 1580s and 1590s, the mean age at first marriage for women in Amsterdam fluctuated... between 23.5 and 25 years, and it remained at this level until the 1660s, when it started to rise even further.... Of 8,052 men who married in Amsterdam between 1578 and 1601, only 118 (1.5 per cent) were younger than 20, and none were younger than 18, whereas almost half (47.5 per cent) were older than 25. Similarly, in the first decades of the seventeenth century, the average age of (first) marriage in England had increased to more than 25 years for women and about 27.5 years for men.
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>>10840520
Ok then. Now show me the birth rates during those times.
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>>10840492
All women are mentally teenagers. Relating to people is what male friends are for.
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>>10840567
Ah, okay so you're an incel lashing out because women your own age know you're trash.
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>>10840575
seethe
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>>10840554
Okay. Same article.
>When marriage is based on consensus—on mutual love—one expects a high ‘propensity to have sex’, even to have sex before the actual marriage ceremony has taken place (increasing the level of marital fertility even more) since once the decision to marry has been taken one is married ‘before God’. The EMP therefore produces high levels of fertility immediately after marriage and during marriage. Arranged marriages may have a lower ‘propensity to have sex’, or, as argued by Kok, Yang, and Hsieh in a comparative study of fertility in nineteenth- and early twentieth-century Taiwan and the Netherlands, ‘in arranged marriages, a large age difference between husband and wife may have obstructed the process of familiarization’. This seems especially true for ‘minor marriages’, which occur in parts of China, characterized by a young girl being taken into the household of a boy at a very early age, their growing up together as brother and sister, and then being declared man and wife at a certain age. As Kok, Yang, and Hsieh convincingly show, these marriages are characterized by a low level of fertility; possibly because the spouses found it difficult to develop new sexual modes of behaviour (the literature suggests that at times they had to be forced to have sexual intercourse).
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>>10840520
>Goldberg
Heh.
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>>10839652
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>>10840492
>>10840575
Something happens to women where they turn into cruel harpies after a certain age. Little girls are sweet and kind but after a certain age they turn into cold, calculating bitches. I think it has to do with female socialization process in highschool where cattiness and brutal hierarchies are established.
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>>10840584
The only thing this proves (if it's true which I doubt), is that having a high fertility rate can happen when you are allowed to freely marry whoever you want without coercion. Citing the average year of marriage means nothing in that context and correlation =/= causation.
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Kid pussy is the best
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>>10840755
I dont get it
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>>10840875
pedophiles are here spamming their bullshit on /his/
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>>10840884
ah, didnt know anyone could be worse than the faggots spamming /int/.
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>>10840868
care to explain why, mr. anon? please tell us abuot it in great detail.
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>>10840348
>Why not just say what you really mean?
Not him but I want worry-free legal access to cunny as any straight man who isn't lying to himself does.
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>>10840755
Reminds me of the pic of the old guy and his son walking past a milf and her kid and the kid is imagining the milf naked while the dad is imagining her teenage daughter naked. It was a cartoon and I can't find it rn.
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>>10840180
>Because of public high school
>they wanted girls to finish high school before getting pregnant
It's this. The answer is simpler than you think. The educational system slowly became the "rite of passage" for everyone living in society, and now it's being extended to post-college years, meaning anyone who goes into graduate studies is basically a non-adult until they're literally in their mid twenties. It's institutionalization gone wrong.
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>>10839652
yuck
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>>10840492
roastie hands wrote this
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Because of psychology coming into existence in the 19th century and coinciding with the rise of proto-feminists in England and the United States in the form of Women's Temperance Movements. These two forces combined to pass lots of sweeping legislation aimed at curtailing various behaviors in the name of public and moral hygiene. It wasn't just the age of consent that was implemented because of these things, it also saw a legal drinking age established, gambling outlawed, prostitution outlawed, and various other prohibitions. They also tried to get liquor outlawed as well, and eventually did succeed in the United States, though we saw how well that lasted. Just shows that you can take away the hookers, the gambling, the child brides, but if you mess with the booze, that's when people get really upset.

As to why psychology in particular is responsible, it's because prior to psychology there was no real concept of "childhood innocence" and thus people did not really think of children as being "traumatized" by things. Psychology didn't really start out with the premise that children are precious and need to be protected, rather, it merely suggested childhood years were formative, important to the healthy growth of individuals, which was of great interest to nation states who wanted to ensure moral and public hygiene. To put more plainly: in the 1800s people started to realize through scientific study that things experienced as a child can have profound lifelong impacts on adult behavior, thus to ensure public welfare some measures had to be taken by the state to ensure children were protected to prevent negative impacts on adult behavior.

But how to do this? Cue the Women's Temperence Movements who have the answer: ban whores, ban drinking, ban gambling, etc. Do it for the children! Now a far more effective rallying cry that they have SCIENCE to back it up, even though nosy god botherers like them were not a new thing in the 1800s.
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>>10839652
When old hags got a say. They despise competition.
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The amount of nonces in here is astounding. You're all destined for the eternal fire.
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>>10843441
Source your claim using the bible, christcuck. Protip: you can't.
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>>10839652
Because the average lifespan went from 40 to 80
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>>10839652
The dumbing down of America. Teens percieved as over-sized as oversized babies up until they commit a crime. Then the prison system can make money off of them via cheap prison labor. Welcome to the business known as America.
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is this the historical pedo loli corpse rape thread? i need a proper wank lads
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>>10842121
Nice argument
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>>10839652
Get out of here pedo
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>>10843470
LITERALLY this



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