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>ethnic anglo converts to islam now have chants in old english praising allah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTNAv6OhyMk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUNIkX8bmLk

holy fuck,, just listen guys it actually sounds so good. Islamic Europe doesn't seem ridiculous anymore. I don't know if i should be scared or happy? I'm not anti-islam or pro-islam
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another chant/tale in old english

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSrVRxToVhs
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>>10508996
>>10509001
>You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.
Matthew 24:6

>Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children.
Revelation 21:7

Islam WILL NEVER be European.
Christianity WILL always be European.

Whether you LIKE it or NOT!
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>>10509017
did you even listen to them before spamming your copy and paste verses?
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Here is an Ethnic German muslim convert preaching in Old High Germanic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThHBV7ggj04
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>>10509132
An fantastic example of what you call the zeal of the convert lol
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>>10508996
Sounds like elvish from lord of the rings.
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Europe is so religion deprived and soulless. When it all comes tumbling down I think islam will dominate and help europeans from becoming extinct.

Also someone should tweet these videos at VARG. He would probably love this shit lol
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>>10509132
>>10508996
today i learned all muslims use the same tone and inflection no matter what language they speak. its like gaydar for islam. Alhamdulilah. Mashallah. Or Bismillah? Im trying to convey my agreement.
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>>10508996
Pale immitation of Anglican Chant
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>>10509241
He does sound similar to muslim fanatics who speak in Arabic. Also sounds like Hitler when he’s screaming.
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>>10509017
>this desert jewish splinter religion based on persian and babylonian myths is european
never fails to make me laugh
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>>10509291
Europeans call themselves after a Semitic princess. They write down their thoughts using a Semitic alphabet. Why shouldn’t their religion be Semitic as well?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m34ryESQh-0
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You're probably a shia, innit?
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1613986228828.webm
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>>10508996
>>10509001
Islamic Europe is the final redpill.
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>>10509351
Oi u cheeky cunt u sed yor shahadda yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvXnI2OFOm0
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>>10508996
Proof that “christian” chants are european chants
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>>10509697
Cope
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>>10509291
>Neo-pagans: You worship a Desert Sand Demon!
>Also Neo-pagans: Christianity was a Roman Conspiracy to have Christians worship Caesar to pacify Judea.
It’s all so tiresome.
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>>10509001
>>10508996
Why it's always gingers
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this faggot should fucking kill himself
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he's very well educated and wrote those chants with full understanding of how they should sound, what they should remind you of, and designed them faithfully in the tradition of european christian chants. he's a real pioneer and kind of like tolkein, using actual poetic traditions to make new stuff. but in this case it's an alien religion rather than mythos
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>>10511181
purposeful manipulation for which he ought to be executed
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>>10508996
What the fuck is wrong with gingers lol.
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>>10511273
check this out
https://mishkatmedia.com/contentions/
the dude is too proud to have a twitter but writes his own little twitteresque vague hot takes
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>>10508996
Only lpsers adopt the culture and religion of the invader.

He is spitting in his ancestors graves.
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>>10508996
>>10509001

Disgusting...
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>>10511316
>14. Whether God can forgive Europe is perhaps the greatest problem of theodicy.
>21. The Crusaders served us at least once: they let al-Khidr loose in Sherwood.

insufferable tripe
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>>10511356
Which ancestors? The saxons the celts the normands the norwegians?
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Why? No, seriously, why does he (and this dude >>10509132) do this? Why make chants in old European languages when they have Classical Arabic, which is the language that Allah is supposed to be prayed to and sung to in? Do they ever explain why?


>>10510603
I have never, ever, seen a Pagan have the latter opinion. Are you sure you're not just getting butthurt and conflating NYT Jewish columnists hottakes on why the Republican Party is evil with Asatru or whatever? The whole Caesar's Messiah take is only really found among a very specific milieu for a very specific reason. The explicit Anti-Semitism of Neopaganism sort of just throws the entire idea out the window.
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>>10511536
to manipulate europeans into accepting islam you fucking moron
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>>10511567
I didn't ask for your opinion you spastic retard. Maybe YOU hear this nerd singing his dune coon garbage in fucking Old High German and get the urge to wipe your ass with your bare hand like Muhammad, but normal people don't. So unless you're going to crawl through his twitter feed and find out for me why he's doing this, crawl back to /lgbt/ where you belong.
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>>10511316
>The ‘Contentions’ are little sparks, some luminous, others merely hot, which fly from the point where Islam’s sword is resharpened by its encounter with the anvil of modernity. They are not credal articles, or mystical aphorisms; they avoid dull linearity or affiliation to a system. Instead they test the power of speech to point out the paradoxes of our world, and to suggest the transcendence to which those paradoxes point. Like Traherne’s Centuries of Meditation, they are arranged in hundreds, each of which may very loosely centre on a theme.
this is a pretty good way to contextualize the purpose of twitter honestly. he knows what he's doing.
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>>10510682
read that as niggers lol
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>>10511619
>why he's doing this
You answered it yourself dude. He's a nerd and this is just what he's into.
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>>10511536
>Why make chants in old European languages when they have Classical Arabic, which is the language that Allah is supposed to be prayed to and sung to in? Do they ever explain why?
nope only the Quran is to be read in Arabic whilst praying.
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strong scots wiki smell coming off of this guy. such people are probably not good for islam in the uk unless they want to be known as the wrong un liberation army as well as being foreign.
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>>10511619
nice meltdown you squarehead retard
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>>10509017
>Christianity WILL always be European.
This shit is beyond comedy. SYRIAN Christians literally speak the language that Jesus spoke, and you have the audacity to proclaim it a European religion lmao
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>>10511651
>>10511642
So you can pray to Allah in any language, it's just certain specific prayers or ritual recitations that have to be done in Arabic?
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>>10511655
no he's legit. I mean yes of course he's a weirdo but he takes this very seriously and has a sharp mind
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>>10511685
yes dumbass. there aren't even any arabs who would be able to pray in "arabic", as that refers to classical arabic, which like latin, is not spoken. egyptian arabic and persian are both equally NOT quranic arabic. and english for that matter.

it's like how catholics used to have latin mass. it just amounted to reading the prepared mass in latin, which was short, then repeating it and expanding on it in whatever language everyone speaks.
and of course there are some latin and greek phrases that are left untranslated. same thing in islam with classical arabic.
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>>10511685
You can supplicate or invoke God in any language you wish, you just have to pray and say the rituals of prayer in Arabic and read the Quran in Arabic. However you are allowed to read the Quran in your own leisure time in a different language. Many Qurans nowadays are translated to different languages.
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>>10508996
>>10509001
Nobody’s going to point out that none of these is in Old English?
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>>10511790
tbf I don't know what old english sounds like
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>>10508996
cringe
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>>10510682
>why do people who are constantly mocked and belittled for something they cannot change grow to hate their society and fall in with a movement that somewhat accepts them and is against the society that rejected them from birth
Gee, idunno.
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>>10510682
Mohammed is believed to have had a red beard, so Muslims give a lot of attention and praise to gingers. Many muslim men dye their beards and hair red with henna for this reason. If you are a natural redhead, you are often considered to be inherently more righteous and worthwhile. A disproportionate amount of European converts to Islam are redheads, probably due to the special attention they receive. If you ever meet a ginger Muslim, feel free to roll your eyes, because they probably joined up because the religion simps for them and strokes their egos. Proselytizers particularly focus on redheads for these reasons, and such converts are afforded a different social standard than others, so they’re often out of touch to the actual state of their communities due to the social bias toward them.

tl;dr Mohammed was ginger, therefore Muslims see gingers as more worthy
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>>10511882

Is that why half of afganistan are gingers?
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>>10508996
Islam is a false religion from the devil.
Jesus Christ is Lord.
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>>10508996
>copy Gregorian chants
>OMG you guys we have to convert RIGHT NOW
?
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>>10509001
Sounds like British/Irish folk music. I wouldn't think it was Islamic unless told beforehand.

>>10508996
The first sounds like it could be a Christian chant. Has a medieval English vibe to it.
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>>10508996
>holy fuck,, just listen guys
obvious shill is obvious
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Wtf is this Sufi bullshit
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>>10509132
>Old High Germanic
That is just standard German homie
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>>10509132
>converts to islam
>starts screaming and being super aggressive and violent
religion of peace
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>>10509001
BASED
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>>10508996
This never happens
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>>10511926
All of Islam is copied
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>>10511622
This is a very good take.

I don't think Europe will go Muslim but I do think Europeans will convert to Islam more often in the next 20-50 years. You can shit on Islam all you want but it is an established religion with real traditions.
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>>10512677
Why
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>>10511882
Mohammed wasn't a ginger. He is documented to have dyed his hair in henna, to make it ginger. The Arabs also practiced this before the time of the prophet, it's a cultural thing. Gingers are not exalted in Islam retard.
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>>10511882
>so Muslims give a lot of attention and praise to gingers.

This is garbage.
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>>10512688
Because old things don't get a renewed resurgence out of nowhere. Europe will not become a Christian, conservative area. Islam offers an ideology that rejects the worst excesses of Western culture and globalism while promoting its own kind of globalism and multiculturalism - it's basically traditional multiculturalism and multiracialism. Islam also did the 'disaffected young males turn to reactionary politics' thing first, and has built the largest terrorist network in the world -- it has a base of 'crusader' nutjobs that will defend the religion to the death and propagate the Islamic world after neoliberal globalism falls. White nationalists are currently doing the same thing right now, building their own parallel society waiting for the end. Islamists just did it earlier, more successfully, and have institutional backing (and sympathy) in the Middle East.

Orthodox Islam might not even be a thing in a hundred years. Europeans will probably adopt Islam and Europeanize it, like a lot of Muslim cultures do to the religion. Islam is very disorganized, the resurgence of 'orthodox' Islam and retards telling people what they can't or can't do coincided with the rise of the 'crusader' durka durka Islam people in the 70s.
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>>10512724
They don’t care about religion. At all at all especially not one that is seen as the enemy even by normies
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>>10508996
>holy fuck,, just listen guys it actually sounds so good. Islamic Europe doesn't seem ridiculous anymore. I don't know if i should be scared or happy? I'm not anti-islam or pro-islam

kys

Aisha was a whore

muhammad fucked pigs and nine year olds
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https://youtu.be/3kDbqABvEN0

I came across this guy a couple of years ago where he talks about the new Star Wars movies and the decline of masculinity, it’s interesting how he relates it to Islam honestly
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>>10512724
Islam promotes inbreeding and is dysgenic, an IQ atomic bomb
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>>10512742
They will when things get worse. Reactionary politics is only getting started.
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>>10512773
Think whatever you want, you're just regurgitating ideology at me. European Islam will not be Arabized Islam, North African Islam, etc. It will probably be similar to how the Turks practice it.
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>>10508996
>>10509001
>One delusional fagwad converting means le epic Islamic Europe now
Keep dreaming Ahmed.
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>>10508996
>old english praising allah
1. The sacred language of Islam is Arabic and that is all. Not English.
2. "Allah" means God. Ellohim, El' etc. So this is just an Old English hymn to the Lord.
It is difficult, according to the text, to say whether the author of Beowulf was a Christian, but there is a lot about God, not about Jesus. Well, because the ancient Anglo-Saxons could more easily understand the Old Testament than the New Testament.

No, after accepting Islam do you become a serf of the Arabs, culturally. This religion has a dominant ethnos.
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>>10512782
So basically doing anything that's forbidden anyway? Because that's like 80% of them
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>>10512774
This. And nation-state politics isn't over either. US global hegemony will shrink, EU and shit will weaken. I think the ultimate trend is towards further globalization but that's LONG term. Pax americana is like the precedent being set, not the final form, and there's still plenty of room in our generation and the next couple for some kind of neo-nationalism to emerge and be used as the basis for wars, diplomacy, state legitimacy
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>>10512821
That's 80% of Christians too. You can be a sinner be a Muslim.
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>>10512812
Ok but this guy in particular is like a prime mover. He's creating the initial frameworks for what could turn into a european islam, making his own stuff, not just copying others, he's being innovative and proactive. I have a feeling he's a low-key genius who, if he had gotten into any other field of study or activity, would be world renowned by now. But because what he's into is so strange, he's not that famous. But really if you look into it he's completely trailblazing. I mean I don't believe europe will turn islamic, but if it did, timothy winter would be recognized as THE DUDE. All subsequent writings and conversions would be based on him
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this never existed though, they'd be singing christian hymns and prayers
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>>10512877
Eh he's kinda similar to that famous 160IQ white nationalist guy who converted to Islam for years. I forget his name. But he led the OAN which was a huge white nationalist organization and had links to other far-right groups around the world. He disavowed Islam later on though.
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>>10512782
>you're just regurgitating ideology at me
It's a demonstrable fact
>It will probably be similar to how the Turks practice it
Turks literally de-islamified their country to copy Europe
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>>10512903
He’s not similar at all to that, he’s a legitimate Islamic scholar and respected by Muslims around the world, it’s not like he’s just some random scholar. The only people who dislike him are liberal Muslims who think he’s too right-wing and Salafis because he’s a sufi
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>>10512903
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_America_News_Network
this? I can't find who you're talking about
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>>10512939
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Myatt
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>>10508996
>>10509001
>>10509306
now he just has to do it in Old old English --
>dfw Saxons will return and expel normans under the banner of Islam

ck3 tier timeline soon
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>>10511503
all of them looks like
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>>10512964
This guy is definitely Anton Long btw.
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>>10511815
You posted modern English with an accent.

Here's Old English:
https://youtu.be/oaCjqf3_T6M
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>>10512912
So? Turkey was de-islamified by force by Ataturk because he was a secular republican. 99% of Turks call themselves Muslim and practice but drink wine etc. They acted like that even when the Ottoman Empire existed. The sultans fucked boys, drank wine, etc. The Ottoman elite did the same thing and disregarded a lot of shit. The Ottomans captured early Wahhabists and killed them while playing string instruments -- something a lot of extreme Muslims ban.

When a race adopts Islam, they change it and pick and choose what to follow. There is no centralized structure in Islam except for Shiism. Only from the 70s onward do we have a huge push for the development of an orthodox framework.
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Look at his children's book, how european it looks. I've seen some children's books doing that "diversity" thing, basically for elementary schools and white lady teachers to eat up. With stories about the "immigrant experience" or whatever, a lot focused on types of things they think immigrant kids might identify with, stories about cross-cultural holiday celebrations in school settings and shit like that.

But here's a carefully benign and traditional children's book with tasteful illustration, stories that are very run-of-the-mill with standard kind of positive but uninteresting morals. BUT, with islamic references sprinkled throughout, in the same way a western kid's book anywhere from the 19th to mid 20th century might have incidental christian references, not as a main point, but just present as a passive fact.

Seriously a lot of kids books right now are being pumped out en masse by hyper-moralizing, overly-politicizing types like that white fragility lady, and are voraciously being accepted by K-12 schools. Where do you go if you don't want books like that when there's less authors writing just normal kids books? Well, Winter offers one, if you're cool with islam.
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>>10512998
But turks in Ertugrul don't drink any alcohol
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>>10512998
Adopting Islam is nothing less than the capitulation of Western Civilization
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>>10513030
Islam has always been a part of the west.
Islam arose in lands controlled by the Roman empire and fortified itself by conquering land from the byzantines and western Roman empires along with the Persian empire
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>>10511632
Ginger is an anagram for nigger.
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>>10513043
That’s completely wrong
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>>10513030
It's a pretty strong possibility. Western Civilization is gone anyways. I'm not pro-Islam btw, we're talking analysis here, check the ideology at the door. Any kind of resurgence of 'white identity' that will happen in the future will not be a resurgence of Western Civilization, it will be something new. Reactionaries are romantics. The Islam and 'Nationalism' now is nothing like it was in the past -- reactionary politics is the worship of symbols, identity, etc that never really existed, just the cultural zeitgeist of these things that don't necessarily reflect reality.

Western Civilization is rotting and dead. What comes afterwards is a world that will shift towards the East. The 800 years of European dominance is a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of history. If racialism is correct (I don't believe in it, but you do) the future will probably be a focus in the East, the rise and fall of various despotic empires and kingdoms, and technological stagnation. Not unheard of historically no?
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>>10513062
I'd argue in fact, that this world would be kind of comfy. Think about how simple and nice the average persons life in a city like Baghdad until war came. What is with the desire to reach the stars and be some faggoty space empire? Who honestly believes in the beauty of 'industrial civilization'? I would take a comfy existence on a homestead 30-35 minutes outside a citystate in Asia.
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>>10513026
Winter is a galaxy-brain propagandist, and I say that with all due respect and admiration.
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>>10513062
>>10513082
You should read into Durgin's writings on multipolarity, probably you'd like him.
The biggest issue today is that a lot of post-colonial subjects moving into colonial centers (Paris, London, New York, etc.) would like to see the same colonial controls they've always known, and inflict it on indigenous western populations in the heartland. See that recent Oxford Union debate where a black african woman proposed IQ tests before allowing people to vote.
Western Civilization isn't gone, its simply turned on its own populations and is attempting to liquefy them into a mobile labour force. Whether this succeeds or not remain to be seen, but the people on top have most of the power in this matter.
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>>10512621
that's just the German in him
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>>10509132
This gave me a huge guttural laugh. I was not expecting to see the angry german stereotype and the angry muslim stereotype meet.
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>>10513128
>>10513062
>>10513030
The West has collapsed into slave morality. Really that’s what the problem is. The West isn’t declining because of some foreign invasion of other ideologies, it’s own modern (liberal) culture is just degenerating and shedding its own identity to embrace widespread feelings of guilt, liberation and pity. This is exactly what Nietzsche described what happened. So Islam’s role would just be to fill the vacuum that’s open today, but because Islam is so reviled and incompatible with liberalism the fear of Islam taking over was always just a bullshit psyop. Muslims, especially in America, are completely absorbed into the Monocultural zeitgeist of slave morality and consumption. They all follow progressive politics more than they follow Islam. The same will probably happen in Europe. If Islam becomes revived anywhere it will only be in Asia and Africa where they’re still pretty orthodox overall
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>>10513164
This
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>>10513128
>See that recent Oxford Union debate where a black african woman proposed IQ tests before allowing people to vote.
Based
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>>10513164
Master moralities only arise in new civilizations.
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https://youtu.be/qnjgga8L26k
https://youtu.be/EC4iNVks5tI
I am REALLY liking these. 10 years ago though and can't find anything else, I wonder if he shies away from writing these songs due to feeling too larpy.
Probably would have produced a lot of great content if, instead of being a real islamic intellectual, he had instead turned out as like some kind of orientalist tolkein. He does have that same linguistic affinity.
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https://twitter.com/henrywinter
you've gotta wonder wtf their relationship is like, what kind of conversations they've had, how awkward christmas is, whether they ever got into fights as kids/teenagers...
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>>10513043
Islam is Persianate
>>10513062
The West is infinitely more powerful and wealthier than the Islamic World. I wouldn't bet the house on Islam beating the West any time soon
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Islam can revive the true spirit of the west. For example he says his Muslim students instantly grasped Shakespeare whereas others often saw his values as totally foreign.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=07Ien1qo_qI&t=1s
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>>10509132
Dope nasheed. Whats the name?
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>>10513026
burn this shit.
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>>10513200
Sounds pretty counterintuitive from a black women of all people. Is IQ testing even a reliable when making large scale political decisions, also checked
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>>10513327
kek, is he really related to the football guy? I had no idea
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>>10513459
>>10508996
>>10509001
>>10509132
>Muslims are now shilling on 4chan
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>>10508996
You know, I'm curious, if Islam survives in Europe as a solid religious option for white people, will we see European-ized versions of Islam popping up? Kind of how Protestantism was influenced by the Germans, is it possible that European Muslim converts could somehow make Islam less cancerous?
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>>10509132
Holy shit he sounds like Hitler, the intonation, the voice.

Based Islam truly is the only way these white devils will wake up
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>>10512820
>The sacred language of Islam is Arabic and that is all. Not English.

Arabic is not special. Muhammad knew arabic, Moses knew Hebrew. Allah loves and knows all languages
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>>10514038
we've always been here, just lurking
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>>10514148
Is calling Arabic sacred a form of shirk? That said, I don't think the Quran can be properly understood without understanding it through Arabic. There are a lot of important meanings, right from al-fatiha, that I missed in English until I had the Arabic explained.
t. Kafir
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>>10508996
Whatever "so good" is supposed to mean. I can type in a search for some vocalist singing and find a hundred videos that sound better than this.
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>>10514263
>Is calling Arabic sacred a form of shirk?
no since you can't worship a language

>I don't think the Quran can be properly understood without understanding it through Arabic. There are a lot of important meanings, right from al-fatiha, that I missed in English until I had the Arabic explained.
Isn't any language like this though? To fully comprehend the meaning of etymologies of words, you have to become proficient in that language, even more so when reading the Quran which is the pinnacle of Arabic literature. A simple translation of the Quran will suffice unless you're doing some grad-level research.
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>>10514394
>A simple translation of the Quran will suffice unless you're doing some grad-level research.
I actually disagree. My aim is understanding the text, not doing academic work, just to put that out there. Assuming the person I listened to explained the Arabic right, as an English speaker you're already quite far off if you get to the end of "In the Name of Allah—the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful.", because of the different meaning of mercy in Arabic and English. As I was told (I don't know Arabic personally), "mercy" here is a much more enveloping concept in Arabic that has connotations of totally taking care of someone.
There's an article on it here: http://www.marcmanley.com/mercy-is-it-the-same-as-rahmah/
Perhaps historic context is more important than linguistics though. There were things in al-Baqara that made much more sense to me historically.
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>>10514483
in that case then you'll probably need an exegesis of the Quran something like Al-Tabari's or Ibn Kathir's
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>>10509017
>Christianity WILL always be European.
Jesus was from Palestine
Moses was from Egypt
Abraham was from Iraq
Peter was from Syria
Paul was from Turkey
Augustine was from Algeria
Isaac and Ishamel's children are the Jews and Arabs

Take your meds
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>>10510682
>U PROBABLY A SHIA INNIT
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>>10511882
I'm iraqi with red beard. but no man, you are not correct saying muslims give special attention to gingers
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>>10508996
What a traitor
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if anyone cares. Here's the guy OP posted talking Evola. He is a neo-traditionalist and loves Evola and others like him. This guy is very well read and knows what he's talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Ien1qo_q
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>>10514899
The link is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Ien1qo_qI
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>>10514098
They would butcher it the same way they butchered Christianity with their liberalism, it's why we can't have nice things
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>>10512877
>Ok but this guy in particular is like a prime mover. He's creating the initial frameworks for what could turn into a european islam, making his own stuff, not just copying others, he's being innovative and proactive. I have a feeling he's a low-key genius who, if he had gotten into any other field of study or activity, would be world renowned by now. But because what he's into is so strange, he's not that famous. But really if you look into it he's completely trailblazing. I mean I don't believe europe will turn islamic, but if it did, timothy winter would be recognized as THE DUDE. All subsequent writings and conversions would be based on him

Your speech pattern has low iq mentally ill pseudo intellectual written all over.
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>>10514899
>>10515157
Why the fuck are you shilling your shit on 4chan, dude? You're not even affiliated Cambridge Oxford as an institution. You falsely use the name to generate interest.
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>>10512877
You do get that people can see you're obviously shilly for this guy, right? None of this is organic. You're either one of his followers or the man himself.
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>>10516148
*Cambridge
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I really like this guy desu
I've heard muslims criticising him as promoting quietism?
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>>10513459
Pure supposition coming from a biased party. His anecdote about Shakespeare means nothing.

People here harp on about this notion that the west is either collapsing or has already collapsed, but I think anons lose sight of the fact that this perception is largely down to a socially maladjusted vocal minority localised largely within the confines of this site. Like it or lump it, neo liberal countries are leagues ahead of Islamic nations in terms of their economies, their research, their militaries and their collective standard of living. These things matter in the real. It matters that the west has anihilated every attempt by Islamic extremists to form a coherent nation; it matters that birthrates among non white immigrants drop to below those of the native population by the second generation; it matters that western powers are essentially able to use parts of the Middle East as their play pen whilst enjoying total capitulation from the likes of the Saudis and the other oil rich Arab nations.

Beyond all the fluff, the geopolitical situation clearly favours the west and there's really nothing concrete to so much as suggest that will change.
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>>10514899
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>>10508996
Stop shilling your garbage you mentally ill traitor
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>>10516180
Progressive Muslims and Salafis (two groups of Muslims that have way more in common than you think) don’t like him. Since he’s a white European he sympathizes with people in the West that are fearful of Islam and feel sorrow for the loss of their own traditions in the globalized world. He doesn’t advocate any significant political upheaval as other Muslims do so some people accuse him of siding with the enemy or whatever. It’s funny that he ended up converting a far-right German politician despite that accusation
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>>10510682
The Muslim master race is ginger.
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Why do Muslim converts put on that gay fake accent when they speak their native language?
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>>10516218
>this notion that the west is either collapsing or has already collapsed
I agree with everything you have said but I would just like to add that this notion itself is so old that it should be considered a part of Western culture by now. Even the Greeks said shit like that in Antiquity
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>>10514809
>I'm iraqi with red beard. but no man

So you're a woman? Post tits
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>>10516499
A lot of it is because they spend most of their time around people who speak english as a second language and so imitate their speech patterns and intonation to make it easier to be understood. It happens to a lot of people when they "deep dive" another culture.
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>>10508996
He's a fucking heretic we don't claim this anglo, forbidden to celebrate the prophet's birthday
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>>10516148
We're two different people, bro. That was my only reply to the entire thread. The person posted an incorrect link, and I was interested by seeing the sheik's commentary on Evola, so I looked it up.
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>>10509001
wow.. this isn;'t that bad
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>>10508996
Incredibly BASED
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>>10508996
The thing is Christianity and Islam are both Semitic, alien religions to Europe. The difference is Christianity is gay and cucked and has you worship a faggy subversive Jew while Islam has a chad conqueror at its helm. So if Europeans have to follow a foreign religion, I see no reason why it shouldn't be Islam over Christianity.

>>10516252
Following Christianity was already the first treason.
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>>10513043
>Islam has always been a part of the west.
Massive exaggeration.
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>>10516599
Congratulations, you know how to use ms paint.
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>>10517025
Re-read your own post - you speak entirely in worn out memes. You're basically a robot at this point.
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>>10509301
The name "Europe" is not Semitic, but Greek and therefore Indo-European.
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>>10517128
Gayreeks
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>>10516252
he's not a traitor, just a immigrant or some butthurt 'rich' arab, just look at /int/ it's full of we wuz muds
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>>10516218
>it matters that birthrates among non white immigrants drop to below those of the native population by the second generation
and yet it's often the second gen with the identity crisis that gets into extremism. anyway all you're saying is that things haven't changed, not that they aren't changing, or can't change. I say the shoreline looks a bit reduced today, you say you can't tell a significant difference from yesterday and it doesn't matter since the pier is still much taller than the sea. that doesn't mean the water level isn't still rising.
>It matters that the west has anihilated every attempt by Islamic extremists to form a coherent nation
Iran isn't coherent? anyway no, the west has annihilated MENA's attempts as secular nationalism and/or socialism. islamic extremists are only more organized today because of those failures.
>>10516506
shut the fuck up, ancient greeks aren't "the west"
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>>10509017
you type like an insane person in a youtube comment section
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>>10508996
That's nothing new.
There are only two non-muslims in this photo taken in England: Haile Selassie and his envoy.
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>>10517128
Europa was a princess originally from Phoenecia, anon
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>>10509236
Once they adopt Islam, it will become extinct. Islam has no concept of race and nationalism. Arabic is the superior language as its language of Allah and prophet. Europistan doesnt sound too bad.
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>>10517214
>and yet it's often the second gen with the identity crisis that gets into extremism
Still a minority of a minority.
>not that they aren't changing
That's exactly what I am saying. Please read more carefully.
>than the sea
Comparing Muslims to the sea simply doesn't work. They're outnumbered globally by Christians for one.
>Iran isn't coherent?
They're not a threat nor are they truly zealous in the manner of something like ISIS.
> islamic extremists are only more organized today
Tell that to ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
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>>10517095
Coming from you retard. Trad Christcuck LARPers only excuse for their moronic beliefs is "muh traditionalism", in spite of the fact that Christianity itself was an anti-traditionalist rebellion against orthodox European values in its time.
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>>10517477
>one mosque in Surrey means that England was always Islamic
Why do you people make such ridiculous claims?
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>>10510682
They don't have souls so no risk of going to hell for being a goat rapist
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>>10510603
>(((abrahamists))): rabbi yeshua is the son of YHWH
>also (((abrahamists))): rabbi yeshua is a false messiah who is boiling in shit
All so tiresome indeed
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>>10508996
>inept wogs think proper formal speech is "Old English"
There are also Buddhist and Orthodox Christian chants that have been rendered in English. What's your point, that Islam is smellier and stupider?

https://youtu.be/7vRjqszHDHc
https://youtu.be/-5L1Z-K0O_k
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>>10517625
>memesmemesmemes
seek help
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>>10517723
>no argument for his shitty religion except "ur memeing lolz!!!"
Woah... so this is the power of Christcuck tradlarpers on the internet.
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>>10517730
>woah... so this is the power of meme memers meme on the meme
You cannot help yourself.
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>>10517214
>ancient greeks aren't "the west"
yeah but they are a major influence on every other thing that makes up "the west" you complete imbecile. should I spoil it to you that everyone from Socrates, to Merovingian kings and XIX century imperialist all spouted this "we're living in a civilization in decline" bullshit
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>>10517749
You conceded the argument. I accept your humiliating defeat.
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>>10517768
>you conceded because I said so!!
lol
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>>10517776
that is how basement dais operate on /his/. they internalise a few catchphrases that they think will make 'hunting for souls' easier.
they don't understand the phrases they use, but spew them up in massive strings on the slightest hint of contradiction, then claim victory according to their esl misinterpretation of the site's decade old meme rules
it's like mashing buttons in a fighting game because you don't know any combinations.
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>>10509132
The last thing Islam needs is more retarded screaming preachers.
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I like it, not a Muslim any more so couldn't care much about the message itself but it sounds nice and is a step in the right direction. Islam needs to seriously distance itself from the severe arabisation it has undergone if it intends to become palatable in the west.
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>>10518354
>not a Muslim any more
No such thing mate.
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so can someone explain the birthday celebration controversy
if celebrating muhammad's birthday isn't explicitly forbidden then what's wrong with it exactly
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In Islam is having a beard a requirement? Some men just can’t grow good full beards and dude in the pic an example.
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>>10519469
Some hardcore literalist sects view everything that is not mentioned or known about the religious practice from the time of the prophet as bid'ah (innovation) and reject those as haram. But those are in the minority.
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>>10519515
>In Islam is having a beard a requirement?
Yes. If you can't grow one you should visit doctor it's not that hard.
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>>10518449
True. You can renounce Islam and call Mo a pedophile and yet you will always be seen as a muslim by others.



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