>>10243049
Bad and good are relative terms

The trolley problem is so dumb. I don't know who those men are. If I'm not allowed to know I'll literally not care and would probably just let it run over the 5 dudes.
Depends on if you crave to commit the crime or not, if it's just a thought there's not a problem. I also think it's more evil to do bad on others rather than yourself.
Watching porn is not the same as cheating, watching porn without your spouse knowing can be considered closely related to cheating.
A harmless person can be bad to others given the right system.

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Yes. So? Whatcha gonna do about it, faggot?

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>>10243080
Do Americans really...?

>>10243049
>IM NOT A BAD PERSON BECAUSE IM HARMLESS TO OTHERS
Let me guess: you're a tradcuck retard who thinks basedjaking the objective truth that the existence of gay people does not cause any harm is enough to disprove it. Or perhaps you realize you have no actual counter to it so this was the best you could come up with.

>>10243173
what causes people to be gay

>>10243080
not reading anything past "i dont care and ill let it run over 5 dudes" you are sick

>>10243201
ur mom

>>10243057
>the redditor's smart man

>>10243138
>MURICA MURICA MURICA HAVE I MENTIONED MURICA YET
obsessed

>>10243080
>If I'm not allowed to know I'll literally not care and would probably just let it run over the 5 dudes.
It is the safest option
If i pulled the lever, there is a risk the family of the one guy who died will be pissed; and i will be sued and/or shamed for killing him
If i do nothing people will just think i am a Innocent bystander who was frozen with terror

>>10243173
insecure faggot spazzing out when his worldview gets indirectly threatened

>>10243173
>>10243173
>>10243514
It is only personal if it does not clash with progressive beliefs
>you should not care if i'm gay i am not hurting anyone it's not your business
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST DISLIKE GAYS YOU FUCKING MONSTER BAKE THE CAKE

>>10243049
>the trolley problem is a difficult moral dilemma
only retards think this
>watching porn isn't the same as cheating
true statement

If I do nothing, the worst I can be accused of is criminal negligence. If I pull the level I've committed voluntary manslaughter.

>>10243049
>>IM NOT A BAD PERSON BECAUSE IM HARMLESS TO OTHERS

Let me guess you think you need to be a 6'5 alpha chad to murder people or commit arson or steal or burglarize things.

>if you're a regular person you can't be good because it would be impossible for you to do evil things because you're too weak!!!!!

You've basically already admitted you think like this which makes you stupider than the people you're strawmanning.

There's no such thing as "bad thoughts" either. For something to be truly immoral there needs to be an injured party. Thoughts are inherently harmless.

>>10243627
D
It's literally called premeditation

>>10243049
>WATCHING PORN ISN'T THE SAME AS CHEATING
It's not as bad, but still wrong and kind of a red flag imo

>>10243049
>THE TROLLEY PROBLEM IS A DIFFICULT MORAL DILEMMA
pull the lever, society makes decisions like this all the time and would not survive if it did not
>IF YOU DON'T ACT ON YOUR BAD THOUGHTS, THEN YOU'RE NOT EVIL
if you only had good thoughts you would not need morality
>>WATCHING PORN ISN'T THE SAME AS CHEATING
it is like your girl staring at a black guy grabbing his crotch
>>IM NOT A BAD PERSON BECAUSE IM HARMLESS TO OTHERS
if you would act on your vile impulses if there were no consequences to your actions you are not a good person

>>10243640
Premeditation is when you plan something, not when you think something. It's completely natural and normal to think about killing people if you're angry or raping women and most people can't even prevent these thoughts from coming from their mind if they wanted to. Not acting on your base instincts does make you a good person and having these instincts in the first place doesn't make you evil, just a normal human.

>>10243666
>people can't even prevent these thoughts from coming from their mind if they wanted to
>mark of the beast
enjoy your slavery anon

>>10243719
I was born a slave, there's nothing I can do about it. Thinking about revenge is cathartic.

>>10243666
>most people think about raping women
guess I'm just built different

>>10243666
Ok, satan

>>10243080
The test assumes you're not antisocial. Didn't know it was possible but you legit didn't pass the trolley test.

>>10243514
Insecure fatass having a heart attack because his whopper came in a rainbow wrapper.
>>10243578
There's a huge difference between "leave me alone, I'm not harming you" and "I should be allowed to actively oppose the rights of people who trigger me without consequence" and your pathetic attempts at strawmanning won't change that. Furthermore, kill yourself.

>>10243879
children have a right to develop with pro-family hetero-normative ideas, which are correlated with healthy minds, strong relationships, and God.
gay people don't have these things and will claim the reason being that straight people are not accepting of them enough.
sorry about your trauma, you weren't "born this way", this is something that is inflicted on you by a lack of paternal love

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>>10243946
>christcuck
stopped reading

>>10243879
>"I should be allowed to have freedom of association''
Yes
People don't owe you acceptance
If a muslim/atheist said he did not want to bake a cake for my Christian wedding; i would just say ok and look for another baker

>>10243423
you only care about yourself in this situation

>>10244162
Yes
I am not ruining my life and getting jailed for manslaughter because of five random strangers
Also this is conjectural since i never caused someone's death but i think i would feel worse for pulling the lever
People in general (including myself) feel more guilty for things they actively do; than for things they cause through inaction

>>10244148
>another strawman
cope

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>>10243057
Finally someone who agrees with me. Can't wait till these illogical fools realise how blind they were stopping us doing things liking 'raping' women and throwing 'homosexuals' off buildings.

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bump

>>10243129
damn

>>10243049
Morality is objective, it is in the minds of all, God is real, always has been. If you learn to integrate your shadow into your personality, and no longer fear malevolence, it has no power over you. Read Carl Jung's works if you want to know more. There is an after to this existence, beyond any human beings comprehension. Do good because it is good, and avoid doing evil because it is evil. The way you treat God is directly related to the way you treat him, cast him out of your heart (eg unforgivable sin) he will cast you out of his. The world is fucked right now, but the truth is it always has been. Start repenting for your sins, feel real remorse. Treat others how you wish to be treated, it is so fucking simple. Don't want to be treated poorly for your race? Don't be a fucking racist. Don't want to be oppressed? Realize you have no inherent right to oppress others.

>>10247948
>jordan peterson
>carl jung
>nietzsche
really bad trap to fall into
>Don't want to be treated poorly for your race? Don't be a fucking racist. Don't want to be oppressed? Realize you have no inherent right to oppress others.
stop treating these words like theyre categorically evil. God will cast you out if you cast him out? that is an oppresive heiarchy (good). racism is being treated according to your background, treating your family good /=/ treating others poorly
>Morality is objective, it is in the minds of all
I think a more accurate way to describe this is the love of life and the hatred of death, people will often use the gray areas of morality to try and disprove the objectivity of it

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>>10243605
>>10243643
my gf rarely has sex with me and is not fulfilling the social contract. I am at no moral fault for relieving myself with porn

>>10243049
Why are you asking.

>>10243049
>Pseuds pretending to be philosoohy undergrads are the real problem
>A .22 is very different from a .45
>Just because depreciation is not classed as a loss doesn't mean that the company isn't losing
>Traps are double gay because they gay without even being homosexual

>>10243049
If i can displace my consciousness, have an outofbody experience or possess somebody while i sex someone who isnt my gf, then i am not cheating