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so how can you make 6fig+ with graphic design?
>hardmode no fiverr
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>>440192
sell nigger faggot tokens
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>>440192
anybody with any talent for graphic design were recruited by the obombe gang via their teachers (whom btw are all either demonrats or communists) in the late 2000's
that's why graphic design fell of a cliff in the 2010's and is in free fall even today: zero culture for the designers and tools that even a monkey can use to attain some standardized & desirable effect
this is also the reason why nobody comes to /gd/
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>>440192
swindle your way to a chief UI/UX consultant shit role where other people do everything and you just say yes and no to those things. Thats waht I'm aiming for at least, i fucking hate gd now that its my fulltime job for the past 7 years
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>>440385
if youve been doing it for 7 years then you know what to pad your resume with for that kinda thing then right? ive got the same idea but for creative director/art director
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>>440192
Just do logos for the government or very large corporations only. You'll be a millionaire.

>>440280
graphic design is a dying career field, people can get work done online by jeets for $5 and AI will finish it off completely probably by 2030.
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>>440417
>government or very large corporations only
you must be beyond delusional if you think they "hire" designers or agencies. it's always friends and family of the mayor/board/CEO/etc
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>>440442
Well I got a government subcontracted graphic design job before, and I'm not politically connected in anyway. Most money I've ever made freelancing.
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>>440192
Sixerr.
Its a new start up im making, I think it will provide a lot of opportunities for you all.
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>>440192
>>manager/supervisor/creative/art director
no money in making anymore, managing is where the money is
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It's called applying to any startup via angellist and become a product designer.
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>>440192
Get in on the ground floor with a company that you think will boom and ride the wave up towards being the creative director
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>>440442
LOL, you're so fucking retarded, but this place is plagued with NEETs and Incels who have no real world experience, so now when I see completely spastic comments like this, I just laugh.
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>>440280
oh shut the ever living christ the fuck up
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>>440417
you dont get half a mil for a logo
you get a fat comission to make an identity system and usage booklet for all possible aspects of official use. which is a lot of work.
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>>440192
remember to always use pirated adobe products. save you a lot of money.
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>>441543
Most logos for big corporations are done at the agency level, where you pay for market and branding research, and a LOT of hand holding.

https://www.hatchsf.com

Is an agency that gets the big contracts for re-branding at the corporate level. Look at their client list.

You think you're good? They're hiring for a senior designer. Go apply. Find out.
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1. Take on more clients
2. Hire contractors to help
3. ???
4. PROFIT
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>>440192
definitely not as a graphic designer unless you get lucky

product design is where the money is
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type design brv. I am like "well, there are plenty!", but obviously every other brand wants to have its own font. It is also ridiculously easy to sport a whole family nowadays, at least in comparison to the past. + there are not too many people being pros in this, so with a little effort some agencies will think you're great quite fast.
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>>440192
Only if you live in San Francisco, New York, London. And your social skills are more important than your designer skills.
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>>441558
ok
dont let your ego hit the door on your way out
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>>441543
its not that much work desu we pop those out weekly
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>>441820
Nice. What software do you use? I've messed around with Fontforge before but didn't really know what I was doing. I hear Glyphs is the new popular thing, but it's only for Mac and costly.
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>>441515
9RcSWBxGjr

#post-triggered
IQ test personality test, etc
AI chat & image generator
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Tutorials (soon)
Go help yourself
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Self help server
don’t have to say anything
(Post semi related)
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currently making $120-$150K annually as a freelancer. 13 yrs in the industry but only 2 full years freelance.

the biggest key, have a solid network and acquire retainers or steady/consistent work.

also, dont fucking suck. most of you shitty juniors are horrible and will never make it in this industry, good luck tho anon.
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>>442150
big city? east coast west coast? typical project scope?
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>>442150
what is it that makes a good designer for you? Is it sufficient to have a simple and orderly style, or do customers regularly want some more gaudy shit? How do you manage to work fast and efficient, and how much of your work is just that/some kid of a no-brainer?
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>>440192
It's never the fancy, flashy stuff you expect to make money but the most boring, inane shit.

Look at the top sellers on Etsy: nobody gives a crap about your intricately created illustrations, art or graphic designs, but make 20 iterations of the same minimalist (read: lazy and empty) resume template and you're in business.

Also watercolor everything because moms and women are the demographic that shops the most online.
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>>440192
gotta become a tech whore
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>>441542
Blaspheming faggot
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Without going into UI-UX, which will likely net you 6 figures upon entry in a normal city and without killing yourself working 24/7. I'd say these can be done in any decently major city in America; if you live in like Iowa or some shit, I really have no idea what to tell you.

- Senior Designer. 3-5 years of Exp. around 70-80k and a really lazy freelance business/shop to net you 15-20k a year.

- Art Director - 90-100k/year. About 5 years experience.

- Presentation Design Gigs - These are so underrated. You build fancy Powerpoint templates and just make entirely too much fucking money
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>>442914
poster here, salaries are way off now apparently. so much has changed in 6 months LOL we're fucked
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>>442915
Changed... in which direction?
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>>441542
reddit tier swearing
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>>440442
Kek,
>Be me, 18
>Volunteer at the local MAGA depo
>talk to everyone any anyone,
>'yeah I'm a professional graphic designer'
>Start working with electoral campaigns, making campaign posters.
>Finally got a senator to bite, did good work
>Guy liked me and asked me to do some of his companies work. Dudes in oil
>Arrange my first print with Exxon Mobil's gas station at 45,000.
>NDA's still got me tight lipped but it's good money.

>>441543
>you dont get half a mil for a logo
This, nobody but techies are going to justify that for a 1 person 1 time fee. Offer a brand management services, which covers data analysis, communicating with company shareholders and design consulting. Then hire online illustrators to boost your portfolio.
>I have artists from around the world ready to help us get your logo right and prep it for a global market.
You don't just do their logo for a 1 time fee, you do 10,000 magazine deal here a 100,000 product line up there and it adds up over time.
>Company invests in their brand identity (you)
>They link any boost in revenue to your work and invest more.
Wherever you go start making connections, if your going to engage the giants either have a man on the board or be popular online.
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>>442954
ok, with no traceble details - describe the work such that the someone is paying 45000 for plox
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>>442954
>data analysis

What kinda?

Nice story then, congrats. As it is supposed to go, i guess.
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>>440192
look at this twitter thread
https://twitter.com/rileyj_s/status/1643973520828043264

many motherfuckers making back who can't fucking design
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>>443064
now this is wht i was talking about in that baby block identity design: real rangers per project types

thanks for sharing
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>>443064
these are all web-dev and such related, not gd
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>>443082
bruh, cmon
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>>443087
what?
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>>443104
bruh.
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>>440385

This is the answer. I have 2 friends who do exactly this
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>>440415
how on earth do I get creative director/art director who's a hobbyist and does not have any professional experience? I want to utilize my insane taste by telling people what's good and bad
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>>443111
stop bruhing and tell me what did I say wrong
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>>443279
bruh
if you dont think its graphic design,i just
well
im really worried for you
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>>443280
My dikk is in ur ear.
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>>443281
lol tiny dik
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>>440192
by graphic design alone it's impossible.
even 10 years ago it was pretty rare to be "just graphic design" guy, or just "logotype" guy. i think this shit where someone could make a living of just jerking off logos was done in the 80s-90s to be honest. designers now are all multidisciplinary. especially if we are talking about something so casual as graphic design.
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>>443367
sounds quite demoralizing
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>>443367

What would a successful multidisciplinary designer do?
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>>443373
aside from basic graphic design i would say the essentials are ui/ux and motion design(2d, and if you have a good gpu 3d is very good option as well). basics of 3d sculpting to create simple models is good as well. or at least to the point when you know how to download ready assets and use them. and by basics of graphic design I mean you can do the whole branding for a potential client. logo, colors, identity, print layouts, etc
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>>443375
So, 2d graphic design + motion + simple 3d

Seems reasonable desu. Once upon a time graphic designers had to up and learn illustrator and photoshop, this seems kind of similar.
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Where to find new clients and gigs if you have literally 0 friends, connections nor networking? Asking for a good friend.
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>>443454
Are you good?
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>>443455
Yes. Over 15 years of experience in the field as a hobbyist, sadly
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>>443456
What country are you from?
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>>443459
Does it matter in today's remote world?
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>>443454
Maybe, maybe not. A lot of clients can still be found locally
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>>443467
Wew lads you found me. Now hire me.
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>>443469
I can find you clients, but take a cut
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>>443476
not him but if youre serious ill go 80/20
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>>443476
Sure, let's do this. Give me your throwaway email or some contact where I can send you my works. Also, tell me what kind of clients you have. I've done everything from each corner (concept art, book illustration, comic, murals, portraits, logo design, banners, album covers, and so on) and I've made some good money. But just recently with all the AI generated shit I realized I can make a career with actual skills, since there is a lot of people making a bank by prompting. It's all so ridiculous. So yeah, a good agant finding a lucrative business for me would be really nice leveup.
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>>443530
>>443570

Ok gents I will get back to you shortly.
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>>443574
Thanks my lad. I will be starving and waiting right where you left me.
t.hungryartist
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>>443595
Get a real job. Design was never a true job, much less now when AI will replace 95% of designers worldwide.
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>>443625
>Get a real job
Okay. What's the real job to you and how do make your living? See?
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>>443625
>2 more weeks
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>>443625
ignorant take, but common i suppose



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