>Human artists are losing their commissions and jobs to AI art, and they aren't getting any compassion from AI bros. In fact, the mostly white male Elonites are reveling in their downfall.https://iqfy.com/ai-vs-artist-controversy/Why aren't they satisfied with the "fun" they're having? Why do they have to taunt us?
>>439282one group if pseudo elitists makes fun of another group of pseudo elitists.>bummer
>>439282Good. A modern day "artists" draw globohomo tranny faggotry. You'll never be a woman
>>439282Well maybe they should've gotten real jobs, instead of playing around with crayons and aquarelles at adult age.
>>439282A literal who writes an article and I'm supposed to care, why?
>>439282>slurs like 'drawslaves' and 'paint pigs'These are actually pretty good. I like the second one the best.As for your question it's absolutely because of how artists are treating their AI artist frens. They're being complete assholes calling our work ugly and trying to take our toy away, it's pretty fucked.
>>439282it was never about >funit was always about fucking over artiststhats what they find funNot my fault it all looks like dogshit compared to real art
>>439308take your meds
Artists are now literally killing themselves over thisand AI bros don't even care
>>439318I genuinely don't feel sorry for artists because of how they're acting about this. I'm not even that much of an asshole either but they're acting like fucking cockroaches if they're not just mentally ill and letting hysterics take over their minds.
>>439282This is going to end up giving artists gigantic persecution complexes and give them genuine drive to participate in the neo-Luddite movement which will inevitably come.
>>439321I personally can't wait for the day of the rope to come to AI bros
>>439318>Artists are now literally killing themselves over thisOh, NO...this is totally unprecedented in the history of art, how terrible that such a traditionally happy, carefree and well balanced group would be suddenly strucken with the urge to take their own lives.Just imagine if this had happened during the time of great artists like Van Gogh and Rothko and Basquiat and their long, productive lives had been cut short by the evil computers.
>>439318>artistsComission porn does not equal art lmao
>>439297Ok first off none of you retards are artists.You are both a bunch of charlatans who feed off of the fact that most people don't know how easy art really is.You are sub-par.
>>439332I'm an artist with a following and m work is better than yours.
>>439282THIS IS NOT AN ILLUSTRATION BOARD, FUCK OFF AND DIE SPAMMER
>>439335Post work then retard
>>439342I did
>>439322It's already happening. Elon Musk and his ilk are starting to be seen as the jokes they are
>>439335Soulless
Good.
>>439346That's just some generic looking elf woman with average tits
>>439354Post work then retard
>>439360You are beneath me lmao
>>439366Concession accepted.
>>439282prompters seething
>>439282"AI art" is some sort of placebo nothing more. Without actual art of actual artists in big picture databases "AI bros' " beloved AI does absolutely nothing. These AI people will never experience how it feels to do art work with their own hands. Creativity doesn't end with plain themes/topics/content of a picture or artwork in general. Creativity is part of every single line, every single color field and technique you use.
>>439339Thank you. When will the mods ever deal with these AI threads clogging up the board?
At times I like AI art, often more human art.At least the new competition will give an incentive to human artists to up their game and find new ways to set themselves apart.As it should be.
>>439282>Why aren't they satisfied with the "fun" they're having? Why do they have to taunt us?By taunting you they're helping you actually, it's called a "wake up call". The more precious time you waste with this completely useless skill, the more damage it will do to your life. So take the hint, see the writing on the wall and do something else with your life.
>>439501cope
>>439516>At least the new competition will give an incentive to human artists to up their game and find new ways to set themselves apart.Humans won't be able to compete, AI art will only get better and better from here on out. Best to just accept it and start making AI art and sell your personality as the "artist".
epic ai art!!!!1!1
Art Reddit is full of suicide posts after being bullied by AI brosArtists are killing themselves en masse and nobody's doing anything!
>>439501This anon has a pointThe only thing AI art will change in the industry is that now we'll get job positions for creating training art for the AIs
>>439552All of them suck ass tho
>>439282I think the problem is not AI or people who use this shit (yeah sorry AI bros but you're still not artist and you will never be). The problem is these "artists" who are drawing aren't real artists or at least very weak ones. They draw the same subjects again and again the same way and don't make any progress. Many of them have never used a real lead pencil and paper! (sad!) And not only this: I see so often hacks who just trace from cgis or photos I could puke on this garbage. So AI changes nothing just some crutch more for wannabes.Oh btw even when AI is much more than now. Think about the photography. What are the pros and cons of this for the art world in the past and now? Think about this and you have the answer.
>>439581maybe if people produce something of value in a unique style ai wont be able to copy what they draw
>need a commission done for brand>look on twitter for candidates>all furry troons who only draw porn>see them sperging out over ai art>look into it and install stable diffusion>get desired result after 2 attempts holy shit it is so over
>>439630haha sweet. Embrace the AI overlords
>>439282>AI bros are now taunting real artists with slurs like 'drawslaves' and 'paint pigs'That's your official titles now, "art"keks. Enjoy!
Wonder if portrait painters thew such a hissy fit when the camera was invented
>>439332>>439349Dilate
>>439522>money money money>work is life>life is work>i am a wageslave cuck
>>439282>Imagine thinking having a machine doing a job a human can do is a flex>Verification not required.
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>>439282AI is still pretty ugly on average, but guessing that will change over time. And still, most "AI Artists" have no idea what they're doing, it's the equivalent of a chimpanzee finding a handgun, an ugly inhuman toy that has perverted the very meaning of art and reduced it to cheap spectacle over any sort of human meaning.>>439286I hope all codemonkeys that are working towards building the end of humanity get brought to the camps, AI will make it so there's no such thing as a "real job." would love to see "Brad" the data entry specialist & "AI Artist" (read: prompt writer) slowly being torn to shreds by his AI overlords, actually I bet he would like that too
I work as a graphic designer and I'm not mad about this at all. jobs get replaced by technology since 3000 B.C. and If mine gets replaced, who cares, I'll get another job or live off of my savings for a while. also it's not like it's gonna happen overnight or even this year. I mean, you need to be a pathetic retard for this technology to threaten you. are the people crying about this seriously so retarded with money and planning their futures that a technology that will replace their work in 5-10 years is so threatening to them? do they have no savings? no other skills? wtf? like I said they're not gonna lose their jobs THIS YEAR, they still have plenty of time. the only thing I'm a bit sad is that this might transform art into a demented algorythm-slavery type monstrosity, when eventually even movies will be generated based on market research.
It only replaced the most normalfag interpretation of art. Over rendered pinups.In the industry)TM( it will just be used as a thumbnailing tool for concept artists. This is just like procedure generated levels. You still need a level designer to tell the system what a good level is.
>>439282I remember the days when this technocrat mongoloids pitch about automatization and loss of jobs was about turning into creative activities and better lifestyles.Beat the living shit of an aifag today.
>>439834>kill tech workers because in 30 years they will make art & entertainment limitless and free for everyonelmao kill yourself
>>439826>transform art into a demented algorythm-slavery type monstrosity, when eventually even movies will be generated based on market research.Thank god we were born soon enough to have missed that horror.
>>439282I know how to do sketches, I know Photoshop, and I make pixel art professionally. AI gives me the power to produce paintings and images of a quality that would take me years to learn. For an artist like myself I just see this as a powerful Photoshop plug-in. It's nice because I can make anything that comes to my mind. Whatever I don't like I can Photoshop it and run it through the right AI algorithm with the right parameters until I get exactly what I want.10/10, bonus for making the lefty artists weep -- I thought they were for progress, guess not!
>>439826Here's an interesting take, art AI can only sample whatever the hell it's given via prompt right? Can we just fuck it up by giving it garbage like we did back in 2016 with Tay?
>>439857>Can we just fuck it up by giving it garbageThis fundamentally misunderstands the difference between expectations of rote reproduction and creative ideas.Incongruity makes things more interesting and unpredictable; if you look at the kinds of prompts people come up with its common to see lots and lots of details that attempt to reign in unexpected outcomes and rigidly limit possibilities.This makes sense if you are making scale engineering drawings or some other kind of technical record, but it's the antithesis of art.People whose immediate reaction is to try to use this tech to limit parameters and force an outcome are the type who are heavily invested in the notion that it is their personal ego involvement that makes art, rather than them being a channel for art that they simply guided into existence.They don't like the idea of happy accidents and unexpected results, because they can't claim them as *their* doing. When faced with the ability to create AI prompts, they attempt to use them to eliminate those things and when it results in lackluster visuals they blame the AI, rather than their own ability to let go and not stroke their own egos.So if the idea is that incongruity and surprise unexpected outcomes makes for exciting art that makes you think, the more AI learns *not* to crank out rigid interpretations and to return the "wrong" images and combinations of elements, the more valuable it will be as a creative tool.It's not for nothing that so many of the same people crying about AI call any creative work that isn't strictly traditional and "serious" and made according to rigid rules, "garbage".
>>439297it would work better if you posted a pretty picture instead of some ugly generic piece to back up your post
>>439866>Ego is bad because it just is okay?Never trust any 4chan user who claims this
>>439282Parasites mocking the host, how expected. The dependency of AI imagery on human made art is blatant to the point there is a constant need to train more models or retrain them to produce different looks. It is so dependent on data produced by humans it is nonsensical to call it a replacement.
>>439807this is what brainlets won't understand. Ai + Human is better than Human or Ai alone right now. Don't know what the future will bring, but if you don't jump on the Ai assistance now, you are basically handicapping yourself.The funniest shit is that the same people who now crying are okay with accountants using excel spreadsheets and shit like that, but noo you cannot let the evil computer do my wholesome heckin sketching!
>>439986Well, if that actually happens instead of being a strawman fake quote you pulled out of your ass and put in someone's mouth I'll do that.
>I dont get donations anymoreThe point of a hobby is to have fun not to make money, most of you have a real job no ?
>>439774They did. Eventually they calmed down and things worked themselves out.
>>440003its also important to note that the basic principle of a camera collecting reflected light through an aperature and projecting an image of what it "sees" was known in the ancient world and used as an artists visualization aid well over a thousand years before film that could record those images became part of the equation. Especially during the renaissance there were all kinds of mechanical and optical devices created to assist artists in creating more realistic and accurate representations of real life perspectives, for scaling images and sculptural models up and down in size, etc.Machines to aid artists are as old as art itself.
AI art bros be like:>you're just upset AI is letting low lives like me and everyone else take your precious art jobs, it's so easy!>artists should stop whining and just adapt if they need don't want to be left behind with AIno irony and in the same breath. AI art defenders are truly the bottom of the barrel in intelligence
>>439516>At times I like AI art, often more human art.bug person
Do AI art defenders really think using copyrighted and unconsented works in the training the AI are going to hold up in court? Any competent jury will see right through this and the all legal liabilities it causes>It's not an image collage, it creates like a human would!who cares! it's not a human and shouldn't be held to same the standards of copyright infringement, and unlike a human, it's entirely dependent on human outputThis is a good thing anyway. the future of AI art is content farms like stock sites, hiring artists to train the AI with their works and keeping it relevant. everyone wins.
>>439630its almost as if these fuckers weren't being such bitches about it we wouldn't be doing it nearly as much out of spitei do brand work as a professional graphic designer and ai has made my life way fucking easier. they'll come around eventually into realising that with "creative brains" they can use ai better than people who can't think creatively. they're just too retarded to realise that yet.
>>439991imagine niggers thinking accountants don't use a calculator. your whole fucking existence is ai assisted. retards need to get over it>fucking kek
>>440004don't tell those retards using lightboxes for tracing that its cheating. they'll start sperging. shhhhh.
>>439857reading this just means people will keep checkpoints and existing models safe just in case of ai sabotage. they're called checkpoints for a reason. for you to go back to if the next is fucked.
>>439366Learn to draw and paint retard
>>439282thats pretty funny. good to see those entitled paint pigs finally get the short end of the automation stick
>>439809extremely based
>>439826>If mine gets replaced, who cares, I'll get another job or live off of my savings for a whileThis kind of wishy washy indifference is why zoomers and millennial are completely and irreversibly fucked. You don't think it's questionable that you went to school for three years just to be replaced by a bunch of bugmen with their shitty text prompts? Does anyone have any fighting spirit anymore? You people make me sick.
>>439854>I know how to do sketches, I know Photoshop, and I make pixel art professionallySo basically you're a fucking talentless hack that resorts to muh cool gizmos to make "art". ngmi.
>>440004machines aiding artists is totally different to machines replacing them. Fucking retard.
>>439809AI is already making codemonkeys obsolete. Thousands of those that are getting laid off are never getting those jobs back.
Traditional artists are safe. Irl art still looks amazing.Strictly Digital-only artists will only face more hardships in the future. I wonder if they can recreate their art using traditional non-digital media? That's where they'll need actual knowledge on stuff like color theory
>>440129>machines aiding artists in many cases replace other artists/craftsmen who were part of the process allowing one person to do what took many people beforehand.Many of those graphic art jobs that required skill and aesthetic sensiblities have vanished because of machines, you have no fucking clue what you are taking about.What's more, many of those jobs required far more technical expertise and training than it takes to make logos and other typical graphic design work and "art" so if that level of skill can be mechanized you'd have to be really stupid to think that managing to make some visual thing that a) some client will sign off on and b) can be reproduced is *harder* to mechanise when those are essentially the only standards you have to meet.Fucking clip art books were already most of the way there; most of the "artists" crying about AI couldn't outperform the quality level of picrel if they tried and even they did nobody cares and will keep using that same shitty artwork.
>>440151I dont think its impossible for people to become skilled artists with good aesthetic sensibilities and technical expertise unless they learn the hands on methods; it just takes a desire to learn and develop that depth of understanding, and real effort.When you look at it that way, sadly it's often the "I'm a *real* artist!" types who expect to be held in higher esteem simply for being close minded and following tradition for traditions sake, whose dismissive attitudes towards anything new or different are the antithesis of creativity.AI may not really think or do anything that isn't derivative, but the fact that these alleged artists are desperate to obfuscate is that neither do they.They know they can't compete in a blind A/B test so they create a set of arbitrary rules where muh human artist is always superior, because reasons.
>>439282who's the guy who sells ai art as commissions and how does he do itI'm not even beg and getting commissions is like some kinda fairy tale to me, i have better luck finding money on the ground
>>439318Lmfao
ai is only a potential problem for digicucksphysical artist chads have no problems
>>439335NGL, like this.Though the difference in blur between face and lower shoulder is a bit distracting, I like the composition. comfy Christmas vibes.
>>439297Imagine consider yourself an artist because you prompt some shit into a machine you dont even build.
>>440151There are traditional media that do not require much more in terms of color theory than digital does, i.e. markers.
>>439282It's not real article and i only draw my own manga so there is no job lost to these iron sticks for me until telepathy is legalized.
>>440151>>440438>make AI image>print ituuuhh, trad bros???
>>439297this might be bait, but do you honestly think that the picture you posted looks good?this whole conversation is insane to me, because I can't tell who's being serious and who's being inflammatoryI can imagine the technology progressing to the point where it becomes good, but so far everything I see looks good at a distance and breaks down when you look at the details>>439282same thing with this article. is it a real article? is anyone actually doing commercial work with AI? who the hell is paying for this broken shit?!
>>439335>blur, blur, shine, blur, blurI see, so the secret to avoiding the pitfalls of AI detailing is to simply not include it.
>>439282Last time I got a comission from an artist, they took half a year to get back at me, and then they were extorting me for more money because it was their birthday or whatever. And since I told them to fuck off they're delaying it even further.So yes, artists absolutely deserve to starve & get a real job. AI would never do that to me.
>>439552> Artists are killing themselves en masse and nobody's doing anything!Good.
I'm surprised there's no music generating ai yet
>>441073>there's no music generating ai yet>He doesn't know
>>441077Are there any that are on the same level of quality as image generators ? I've seen older ones that use algorithms but they never sound good, are there ais that can put together a good composition now? With genre options similar to how art ai has style options etc
>>441085Yes, Google has it and it uses Neural Networks, and it is kept hidden. Google already has better textbot then ChatGPT and is able to replace good chunk of their employees. Their image generators are also much more advanced and able to do even texts. Lot of the best AIs are out of public reach for better or worse. There are even models that can easily train robotic hand in span of hours how to do new task, as well as virtual environment AIs that can solve complex puzzles with no clues in just few seconds. Trough trial and error it would normally take months to do the same, and this is not just speeding up simulation, this is legit just a bit seeing the problem, playing with it for few seconds and then finding the solution and remembering it. You know how manual workers are now cocky that they will be the last ones to be replaced, well, maybe they are indeed next.
>>439630Why the fuck would you go to twitter for that stuff? You could go to Instagram, Pinterest maybe but why the fuck just Twitter?
>>439866>People whose immediate reaction is to try to use this tech to limit parameters and force an outcome are the type who are heavily invested in the notion that it is their personal ego involvement that makes art, rather than them being a channel for art that they simply guided into existence.>They don't like the idea of happy accidents and unexpected results, because they can't claim them as *their* doing.Great words, I agree completely. Some of my best artworks had many "Happy accidents" and didn't follow a rigid protocol. They just "happened".
>>439282who would've thought that spending a shit ton of time on something could make you an elitest. this can be applied with litearly any occupation
>>439322I don't wish death on anyone but honestly it's sad to see humanity degenerate at such fast speeds. We are barreling more and more into meaninglessness and a lazy unfulfilling lifestyle and mentality. Call it cope cause I myself am an artist but we were ment to be more than spoonfed breainrot. It's sad
>>439282>Shit I just made up:the article:the thread
>>439322I've never used this ai. I came here just to let you know that i hope all of you art fags kill yourselves because you're nothing but faggots, niggers, commies, jews, and trannies. Usually all of the above.Society will be so much better when all of the art fags are fucking dead. Then we won't have you limousine communists and trust fund socialists pushing for open borders and national bankruptcy.>>439349Get out of your troon Ecco chamber you retard. Elon hates AI, he warned against it and called it Awakening the demon. The fact that you dont know this is further reason you dumb fuck troons need to all fucking die.
>>439554No, there will be a 99% reduction in positions.>>439581Photography isn't art. Never has been. At best you can capture nature's art, like a paparazzi.>>439789Every job is getting automated. You art fags never cared when the ACTUAL proletariat lost jobs to machine automation, now it's your turn. Except what you do is far less important to society.>>439807>>439991No, what YOU brainlets don't understand is that a machine operator gets payed a mere fraction of what a tradesmen gets payed, and so too will the machine operators who replace artists. In fact, it will be all 3rd world labor that replaces you.
>>439809>I'd love to see the ai code monkey reap what he's sown>said the liberal farts commue who mocked the white middle class who lost their jobs or had their wages reduced via competition from 3rd world invaders living 6 to a bedroom in a slum>>439826Movies are already made based on market research... Fucking retard. Every major studio farts out movies that are designed by focus groups. That's how they all became generic quipfests.
>>439834>replacing tradesmen good>replacing liberal farts jews is bad>>439987It depends on content that has already been created and already exists.>>440013No, that would be the liberal farts majors who thought they were better than the ACTUAL proletariat, which is your maga cap wearing uncle you hate.
>>440127If I'm gonna fight, I'm gonna fight to make jews poor so their power over society will wane. How do i do that?>looks at Jewish careers>it's all liberal artsHmm....
>>441073Pop music is so fucking fake, who even cares.
>>441270Niggers were never meant to be anything more than mud hut people. The moment you let the niggers in and told everyone to pretend we're equal, equality could only be achieved by draining the beauty and brilliance from the European.When you are little more than an animal, equality will be achieved.
>>439841>limitless and freeIf that's the case then why do all the good AI sites have pricing ranges?
>>439522What's the point? Eventually AI will soo automate every single thing we do to the point where all jobs will be taken by AI.Blue-collar work, artists, finance, even corporate managerial positions will be taken over by AI.Why bother trying to do anything now when in the future, I'll be replaced yet again by a much better, superior and more complex form of AI that won't just do menial grudge work, but also create content that I can consume whenever I want? Might as well get that UBI/Neetbux and live the good life of Fully Automated Luxury Space Communism. Makes more sense to me than slaving away for corporations who would outsource all the jobs to machines anyway.
>>439625Nope all you gotta do is train the Ai on that unique art style, and they can just recreate it. That's what happened too Kim Jung Gi after he died btw.
>>439282"Traditionalists" lost my respect when they blindly demean AI art. The learning curve for actual good shit in stable diffusion requires significant understanding of code to troubleshoot issues and hardware requirements/optimizations. Most of the ones complaining just want to gatekeep because they know they have to adapt to new tools. Why not merge approaches? Do outlines then apply to SD then take them back out and toil some more if you're such visionaries and leaders in your niche or whatever.
>>439320This right here.
>>439335Oh wow, how original
Fun fact:After textile machinery was introdiced, the number of people working in the textile industry rose by almost 4000% despite the Luddites predicting the opposite.
>>439318That art on the thumbmail looks generic as fuck.The world wouldn't any poorer without it.
>>439516>set themselves apartai image generators are based on drawings of real people. set themselves apart from what? from themselves? maybe next time ask chat gpt to make a post retard
>>441189>>439630because he is tourist with fake story. i would really like to see that stable diffusion result and how he implemented it in actual commission
>>439335How is the ai art with frogs above more creative than this goyslop shit? FYI no one gives a fuck about technical skill when it achieves nothing visually. Criteria-frogs with tits (what even needs to be said?) -nothing stand out about your goyslop just random roastie elf with no background. Do yourself a favour and focus on more intresting locals or subjects. Elves have been drawn more than my cock in ur mums ass.
>>439282You are not exactly "us". Faggot.
>>442280This right here.
>>439282Hahaha you fucken faggots ready for hardtimes?https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxRmY1xYfh3PVs8NEJzGmHOQuMYYJk9Ktq
>>442280>EccoRadical dude, fuck yeah!Wish I would have an Ecco chamber for myself.I hate ya'll Ecco chamber havers!
>>444061That's all you could nitpick?Kys faggot, your "skills" are useless, not that you had them in the first place.
>>439282Are art*sts the new trannies? Only AI will be able to answer this.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9014267/
>>444069We already know they are.
>>439282can someone explain me why for example this ai shit will not help in thinks like aniamtion in the future?
>>440775>what is RGB and CMYK>what is texture in a panting
Just for using the term "elonites" I now fully support AI bros taunting artists mercilesslyjournalists are human garbage
That website is bottom of the barrel woke garbageEven vox media call these guys faggots
>>439282People who are happy about the AI art stuff are clients, not artists. There's no dumber or less qualified group of talentless middlemen alive than "clients." They'll need artists to do basically anything. Hell, artists might end up being even more valuable as more people are able to get stuff "almost" right.
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>>440622Imagine being so egotistical limiting oneself to a particular set of tools, by either traditional drawing or just prompting and not doing both.
>>444390>There's no dumber or less qualified group of talentless middlemen alive than "clients."There's people who spout absurd nonsense about graphic design clients all being "talentless middlemen", who obviously don't even know what a middleman is.Or is your point that anyone between you and the money and praise you think you are entitled to for your "talent" of not being a machine is a "middleman"?
>>444390Throw in the towel, chuds! It is unequivocally over for you.
