It’s literally over, bros.In a short time artificial intelligence will completely replace real artists in all forms of media.
>>431226>These silly Photography crap will never replace portrait paintings. We're still in the early times, this tech will improve, and quickly overtake artists. There won't be any need to acquire artistic skills, no need to grind for years just to become able to make decent-looking images. Idea>Skill>image will be Idea>Image. There won't be any need to pay artists, or even pursue art as a career. Making new art styles and such will have more to do with coding, breeding different image sets together, and picking the aesthetic that appeals to you. As a consumer we will have so many products with crazy amount of unique well made designs and art pieces, entertainment will probably become much higher quality with a lot more output. But the skill required to make a living will steadily increase, as AI will replace the need for lower skill artists, and soon there won't even be a profession.
>>431227That is happening in every industry lel
>>431226That’s Dall-E 1
>>431215This is a good thing; less useless jobs on the market. Get a real actual job instead.
>>431247I don't think you have an understanding of the gravity of the situation here. If they can automate something with originality like art, they can automate plenty of other jobs as well. This may include yours and yes engineers can eventually be automated.
Even with painting murals you don't need skills anymore.You just do a squiggle grid and then fill it in like tracing on the wall.
>>431247>Get a real actual job instead.like what? flipping burgers?
>>431215yep, it's over
>>431672thats Dall e mini..Its just over, in the future everybody can create pictures with words. So why pay a human artist that cost 10x times more if you can just create pictures.80% will use the Ai
you're forgetting that computers are still stupid as fuck, if you think AI is capable of sentience or acting on it's own, you don't understand how AI works. ai art is probably going to be something graphic that designers need to know about like, but they'll probably be working with it rather than against itsocially we need to call out and shame cheapskates that use AI as their final design like people who use clip art. and they'll probably be legal copyright battles with the ai software company for doing that.
>>431215if you actually know anything about art, dall e is hopelessly immature and ineffectual.you think code bros are gonna into art? LOL NO.shit is so far away from being an artists tool. shit is just a parlor trick for now a long time comin.
>>431733I mean even if you wanna argue that, society always values things made by hand, or by humans more than those made by tech, so realistically at worst it puts the lazy fucks making corporate Memphis put of a job, while people with actual taste will go with real, human designers. This of course all *assumes* that this technology will develop further, which is not a forgone conclusion, it could very easily stay the way it is, spinning its wheels in the mud, many such technologies have done so in the past
>>431754cope, you will be out of a job within 10 years.
>>431226Dall-e mini ( Soon to be named Craiyon ) isnt associated with Dall-e 2. Even then, posting a shitty version of something better else does little to prove a valuable point
>>431215I want AI generated porn. I want my imagination to be the limit to porn.
>>431832no, they're right
>>431215Look, hear me out, because I've been tinkering around the both machine learning and the commercial graphical design. People there talk about IA's obstacles in creating art mostly from the side of the technical limitations of the modern computers or from the point of the precision of generated images. I want to talk about the limits inherent in the algorithm.>learning set limitation - what AI can recognise and therefore paint depends on the learning sets it was given. This means that the generic things like kangaroos, sunglasses and hoodies are easy, but non generic things like the trademarked characters require creation of the dedicated learning sets build specifically for them. If you want pictures of Spireman for your Spireman comic, you need somebody to draw enough Spireman pictures to create the learning set, so your AI can learn what Spireman is. That alone is a huge obstacle for somebody trying to replace human artists with AI.>consistency - can your AI draw me the exact same 'roo in the exact same hoodie but blue? Can the AI draw 100 panels of Spireman while keeping the costume consistent? The trouble with the current alghoritm is that every picture is essentially made from scratch without refferencing the other pictures.>multiple related images - relating to the previous point, the alghoritm has no concept of the previous pictures drawn. It couldn't draw the action sequence, because that would require it being able to related the each picture to the previous ones.>real time learning and fine tuning - the alghoritm as it stands has no ability to either learn new concepts (like learning that the generated character is named Joey d'Roux) or to make changes to once generated pics.>intelectual side of paiting - the alghoritm has no concept of the color theory, picture composition or perspective. Sure, the learning set not being butt ugly helps there, but the machine still lacks 90% of what actually is people expect from the designer.cont.
>>432404Cont.:>the whole production process - this alghoritm churns out raster graphics. It's literaly a single layer of pixels, while everybody who even touched the graphic design and the digital art knows that the proper use of layers is a key to actually delivering work that can be fine tuned or changed later. Again, it's not about the quality of the picture itself, it's about the fact that the alghoritm itself just churns out raster pictures, the end product without crucial previous steps.>it can barely handle the text - do you have any idea how much of the designer's work amounts to putting the text on things and then making dozen corrections because your client didn't like your previous choice?>no image insertion - look, it may seem crazy but the ability to insert the ready made graphics is crucial. Sometimes you don't need a drawing of the robot on your poster but rather the actual picture of the real machine incorporated into the larger image.All in all this thing works more like the stock picture and concept art generator and just focusing on the image recognition and efficiency won't change it.
>>431722That's gonna get automated too.
>>431215Has any looked at the Twitter Dalle2 Pics? Absolutely nuts resultshttps://twitter.com/Dalle2Pics
>>431215Literally everyone has an amazing camera in their pockets, yet professional photographers exist. When cameras first came out they thought it would be the end of traditional painting.This will replace low tier art thought yes
Still has problems with text.
>>432495>Literally everyone has an amazing camera in their pockets, yet professional photographers exist.Don't tell people who shoot film this
>>432507What was the prompt, "Taco Bell sign"? Maybe it's deliberately programmed to not use trademarked names.
>>432684This.Even AI has been gate-kept, as with CAPTCHA the very first job google had was making it politically correct and not infringe trademarks
>>432495We hired a friend to photograph our wedding with his prosumer grade DSLR and used my DSLR to do the video. We hired a pro for 1hr to do the glamour shots after the wedding because fancy special artsy need.What would've been a full day for 2-4 professionals turned into 1hr for 1.Certainly everyone doesn't do that, but a good piece of that market has shrunk at the low end (which is the meat and potatoes end). I can think of many many instances where professional photography has been replaced by my own DSLR in my life, including business uses. I even video'd a friend's wedding with it (free too).If I want to advertise something now, I just take shots myself.Half the people I know have DSLRs, though iPhones suffice for 98% of shots/vids.Shoot a short company video at a lesser company? Just let Susan do it with her new iPhone; why pay $3000 for something you can slap together in a couple hours with free software?Cheaper photography/videography has opened up some marginal new demand scenarios, but mostly people just record their own lesser events and personal moments rather than go to the photo stand or hire a guy with a big film/video rig.Think of logos.How much demand will be opened up for designing logos by a radically lowered cost? I'm guessing it's a fairly inelastic marketplace. But now any random jack can mock up a logo in 2 minutes, show 20 options to their client in a half hour, and touch one up in another 30-60 minutes.What was a significant contract just got turned into hourly piecemeal work for all but the largest clients (which are rare compared to [random local business]).Website design is going to rapidly follow this development. Any job that a low-skill html coder with an eye for copy-paste design philosophies can do, an AI will do in a couple years.As you say, dumb design work is ending.Unfortunately for professionals, that's like 90% of the market.Flush.
>>432690Oh, and anyone that was trying to build an Instagram or other creative digital art presence is about to get futilely buried by a million zero-effort AI posts that look equivalently good if not better than what they're making.How is a random mid-tier artist going to compete against a program that can literally copy-paste the skill of DaVinci all the way to Warhol and every museum collection artist in-between?The vast majority are, as always, mere copycats or very minor innovators."Yeah, nice painting you spent 200 hours making, but this program made 500 better versions in 20 minutes, and my normie eyes love them because they look like Rembrandt, not your style, whatever that is. Think I'll follow the AI not you."Also now random no-skills that have good idea-talent can jump in without spending 6 years grinding. Labor supply is getting flooded while hours-demand is getting demolished.Truly novel style and idea genesis will be all that matters soon.Skilled talent is utterly insufficient now.95% of the talent pool/work is mere skill currently.Have fun with your industry.Creative skill just got calculator'd.Remember all the guys you needed to process numbers before computers?That's you now.
>>431215This is not true in the slightest.Dalle-2 is not going to be able to just create what you have pictured in your minds eye. It literally creates entirely random stuff. There are countless, countless different styles of art and it can't replicate 99% of them. Not only that but as we're seeing, very unfortunately - the people who run these projects OBSESS over moralism as if people having access to a tool that helps them get off (Create anything adult/graphic) is the end of the fucking world. These programs, all of them from GPT-3 to Dalle to whatever other AI deepmind shit they're working on out there are imprisoned behind dozens of precautionary filters and rules etc. Really you have nothing to worry about, it's going to be decades, if ever, when AI is capable of making anything you actually want it to and porn/adult artists probably will never have any real competition from AI ever.
>>431733>Its just over, in the future everybody can create pictures with words.Me, future proofing my job by working in the printing sphere rather than a design one. I'm the one who's designing the machines to print artificial intelligently designed art. >What happens when we make machines that make machines?The human race is finally extinguished.
>>431733I think this will benefit market, because now everyone who wants a design/art piece for exposure or for $7 can just be handed one made by AI and maybe touched up by a human. and there will be always a market for "human made" stuff, just because of the sentimental value. look at handmade anything vs mass-produced.
>>431228It's literally impossible to build a robot that can replace plumbers
>>432684I'm not sure if it's just trademarks, I think they butchered it's ability to do any words on purpose.What >>432687 said in regards to CAPTCHA is most likely correct.
>>433022This. Dall-E cannot make custom illustrations of your staff, your product, your building, etc. It will have to be handmade by someone.I was thinking about this last night, but AI will only eliminate jobs that could be done by someone on Fiverr for under $100. I'm a graphic designer and even I was too lazy to work on my artwork for unpaid personal projects. If there's a website/app and it needs custom icons... why would I want to spend my time figuring out the proper shading for the trashcan icon? Why should I learn it? My time is better spent on solving a problem - which AI cannot do.AI can make beats and instrumentals, it can write lyrics, but it cannot do emotions you can connect with. The answer to AI will be going the other way: Human to human contact and sharing of feelings. Not efficiency and automation. If I want to have a cookie, which will taste better: Something my girlfriend baked for me for two hours or something off of a conveyor belt? A handwritten note could be more meaningful than anything AI can do.
>>432976>Dalle-2 is not going to be able to just create what you have pictured in your minds eye. It literally creates entirely random stuff. There are countless, countless different styles of art and it can't replicate 99% of them.Also this. Dalle-2 is the tchotchke equivalent of art.And if I want something specific, you will have to run Dalle-2 a billion times until it gets it right. But if I just want a concept that catches the eye, that has no utility, it will be good enough for that. I cannot wait to get my hands on it for pixel art and make games (something AI cannot do). Hopefully game editors will also be drag and drop and life will be like the level editor in Fortnite. Anyone can use it, only 1% actually can use it well and make interesting things.
>>433751It can be used as a tool. Prompting "modern sleek hero image of a barstool product shot" will give you a perfect example of how to set up your own photo shoot to recreate it
>>431733Dall-E 2 can't generate porn
>>431215Retard how can it replace artist when it literally work by generating drawing BASED ON ALREADY EXISTING ARTWORK? This thing cannot draw by itself
>>433819to be fair, thats what the majority of artists do to some degree, with commercial artists being heavily weighted towards derivative works that follow trends and ape stylistic cues from different sources, including distinctive individual styles of iconic artists.But the flip side of that is that that's EXACTLY how human artists can compete with AI, by doing the same thing it does but with more focus and real intelligence.The computers ability to expand and speed up a search for appropriate source material over a human trying to process thecsame amount of information really isnt the advantage people assume it is for the simple reason that the human doesn't *have to* do it that way every time.Ultimately the AI does all that extra work but the returned ideas aren't better by the same percentage, and a human has to weed though all the ones that might technically be *an* interpretation of the prompt but miss the point entirely because theres no actual thought involved.
>>432286pornpen.ai I'd post but this is a blue board. It's hilarious
>>431215>will completely replace real artists in all forms of media.pfft no, but what used to take a team of pro artists/designers a week could probably soon be done by AI and a single pro artist who does clean up and guides direction. It won't kill artists as a profession, but it sure as shit is going to drastically reduce the market size of working professionals.
>>431215It's not "le over", use your head, the AI is still dogshit just take what it makes, edit it, and claim it as your own. AI is going to make low tier artists into industry grade content creators. YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY.This thing will let you work 100x faster, complaining about AI is like complaining about cars making it so you don't have to walk everywhere>NOOOO I LIKE WALKING HUNDREDS OF MILES>>431733>>431723>>432484>>432483>>432485That only looks nice as a thumbnail, anyone who isn't 12 can see the numerous flaws. Zoom in. A good Photoshop artist can turn that into a masterpiece.
>>432507It was designed not to be able to do words for various reasons
>>431215>trawl the interwebs for jpgs that match the description>"smart" layer merge>"it looks like nothing" filter, discard>"it looks kind of something" filter, acceptThere you go, the fantastic world of """"AI"""", as it stands.
>>431755its different, the ai can copy any artist, there are no save artist jobs, it may take a few weeks but then the ai copy's your art perfectly.
>>432690Just no. Premade WordPress templates have been around for years and people still hire web devs to set the sites up.
>>435254This. 90% of the population have no artistic sense at all. The idea they are going to be prompting for hours is ridiculous. They will always get someone else to do it.
Played around with their outpainting tool and it's pretty incredible
>>435354Original picture for reference
>>435355I'm really amazed by these results. It's not always 100% perfect especially the closer to the borders you go, but it's bluffing for something that this thing took 10 seconds to put in place
>>433752>>432976You can pass a picture as input together with the prompt to get something specific.The guys /g/ in a single week took the stable diffusion code from github and optimized it to run in gpus with 2GB of VRAM (the original code required like 12GB).They also removed the nsfw filters, removed watermarks, added several extra features (upscaling, inpanting etc) and then also started training their own data.They have produced already tons of ultra realistic porn and hentai and anything else you might have not even imagined (eg: hyperrealistic Yoda porn)
>>433766It can but it's not allowed to ((yet)).
>>431215is the end of the human art, it will get shadowed day by day by the fk mchines, until all dreams and joy in the world will be generated by them one day..
>>431227Wow anon you're really fucking dumbNo wonder you're not shit
>>433123>https://roboticsandautomationnews.com/2020/04/30/how-robots-repair-aging-water-pipes/32024/That’s from two years ago. As technology advances and how we build buildings change, plumbers/electricians days are numbered.
>>431277This will always and forever be the best punchline in all this: the people that create this shit honestly believe they won't eventually be affected by it themselves. The hubris of SIlicon Valley dipshits and their turd brains.
>>431215It's mostly "over" because artists are too pussy to actually do anything against it. So many of you losers are all>"h-haha! n-not bad! a-acutally it's kinda cool! hahaha!"You deserve every year of destitution and disrespect coming your way, wishy washy cunts. Thud McChuds out there will make millions off of something he "created" by typing in a text box, meanwhile you'll be hanging yourselves. Maybe nut the fuck up and stop pretending this is anything but the death of all you are.
>>433730What you don't understand is that the system is an image generation system, it doesn't have a language parser for the generation, only for understanding the input. So essentially you can imagine the NPC meme "Ah yes, words." the system understands the concept and graphical design for the sake of inserting letters, but it doesn't understand the content of the text, so you usually get gibberish.
>>435228Trust me, at least as they are now they can't properly copy a lot of styles, maybe that will change eventually but realistically the people who are willing to use it probably weren't going to pay for art anyways, and it's going to be used mostly for weird porn
>>432404>>432406Anon, all of your points will get solved in due time because they have been solved in other AI projects already.
I've been having a lot of fun using Stable Diffusion on my own artwork. I've even used it on some animation projects with pretty cool results. It is a new tool. Embrace it, discover its limits, use it to make your own shit better, manually clean it up. Its fun. And even with my limited time with it, a creative mind and an actual artist will still be able to utilize these tools in much better ways than most or even the AI itself. Consider it a new plug-in. Fuck with it.
>>431215They'll always need references, dude.The panopticon isn't on yet, so they'll always need people to draw things.
>>435614Here's one of the video pieces I've made with it. It doesn't track across frames too well at the moment, but for making creepy shit it works pretty well. The source video is just a naked old man 3d model in Blender that is laughing and shaking while the camera moves around him, while a bunch of pieces of pizza swirl around him. Stable Diffusion interpreted the pizzas as a hell dimension and turned the old man into a Joe Rogan Cenobite.
>>435629This looks like something from the maker of Middens.
Can Dall e 2 Make working QR codes?
Hello anons,I Have been invited to dall e 2.it's pretty shit. I did a thread about it on /b/ thread was 885362193.if you want to test it out, etc. this is the login information:email@example.comZWJ7X8chk8Yf2kB3openai.com/dall-e-2/if you need any help, please dm me on discordat Numbers#1948the id is: 888580642730811393do what ever you want with the account.
>>435642also. no the qr shit wont work, I've tested it
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>>431215Honestly, I don't think it will. This shit is gonna get hit by so much regulation and red tape it will outright kill any benefits it would otherwise have.
>>435562It's interesting to run prompts for things whose essential visual impression is text based like "newspaper" or "magazine cover" with little to no other defining terms, and to repeat the requestcthrough a number of iterations...both as a way to get into the head of the AI and see how it approaches certain subjects and styles, and to see just how generic and cookie cutter the "design" aspect of those items can be. In the case of magazine covers the text being perfectly illegible shapes and not actually conveying any information doesn't take away nearly as much "that looks interesting, I think I'll buy it" consoomer appeal as one might think.
>>431215>>431226It will, but not because it's so awesome, it'll be because you suck so hard, and all of modern art sucks so hard. Liberals have destroyed everything that connected us to the past, and fucked with everything we called culture so hard we are now creatively bankrupt. There is nothing left to draw creativity on but anger and political dogma.Compare AI art to literally anything prior to wwii and it instantly looks like garbage.
I have been using SD all weekend and it's definitely not ready for primetime. I couldn't use any of this in my workflow right now. I don't know if they will ever train these things to know proper composition or taste as it just seems to be all geared towards faces like most art shit. By the time I have ran 100 batches of prompts I could have browsed through behance or dribble for inspiration, or even started with a canva template.
I have access to both Midjourney and Dall-E 2. D2 struggles so much with anime, it thinks Deviantart is a good source. You have to use a real artist to replicate good anime art and it's so restricted. Specific details is also impossible. They would probaby pump these two with steroids and in a few years it might get better. For now its not good with detail work and anime. Food is also nightmare fuel I now have a phobia.I don'e have access to Stability AI and Google Imagen (which is not public access). Imagen is very very realistic and can actually spell unlike D2 and I understand why it's not available to the public.
>>435714>all of modern art sucks so hard>Compare AI art to literally anything prior to wwii and it instantly looks like garbage.>all of modern art sucks>literally anything prior to wwiiModern art had already been around for literally 70+ years before ww2, Ace.
>>435629why arent you using Deforum though?
>>431247All jobs will be automated within the next 100 years.
>>431755I think AI art is just a waste. It's rare to get somethong good.
You guys obviously haven't stumbled upon Platinum or Gold prompts in Stable Diffusion :)Some prompts are incredible at a rate over 99% with error free being over 90%
Want different colors, angle, lighting, style, let me know. I can generate these in about 12 seconds each. :)
I wanted to have picture/photograph I have to be painted as the portrait paintings from the medieval and enlightenment period and style.Is any of the AI solutions possible to attach a file work over it? And, in case there is one, does it provide good results?
>>433022>>433022I think "human-made" art will go the way of hand-drawn 2D animation. It will look better and be fondly remembered but will be largely phased out by media companies who want the cheapest methods possible.
>>433730>Burege>Ubbger>BurgeerI don't know why this is so lulzy
>>435879And what are they.
>>431215Behold, my art.
>>435915I'm scared mummy
>>431227Atleast one visionary liek me who sees the writing on the wall. You and me will be gods in the new age.
>>431227>breeding different image sets together, and picking the aesthetic that appeals to youAnd no coder will have the time to do this, let alone the taste or interest or creative vision. They're all already working overtime fixing bugs in their own shitcode.The suits, marketing people and middle management all also are too busy jacking each other off in meetings.Companies will still need visual people to operate the AI and it will most likely be the same people who have been moving boxes in photoshop and illustrator in their low skill jobs for all these years. No need to fire them and hire lower paid workers either since designers are already paid pennies compared to other professions.
AIfags, why do you spam this?Let's say every single argument you said is 100% right and I go become a fry cook. What do you benefit from shitting up boards?
>>435960nope. it will be subverted by woke and you'll be staring at trans dicks in every movie without fully realizing it for the rest of your life
>>431227And.... who is stopping these people from creating media independently? For instance, indie game designers are held back by a lack of employable artists who they can afford even if they themselves ARE an artist and have been for years. What you clearly fail to understand is that this increases an artist's productivity and potential. Our capabilities to make REAL ART without pandering for crowd funds and businesses are not feasible. This is a GOOD THING for artists, period. Nobody is stopping anyone from studying art and even suggesting ai will replace real artists is FUCKING DUMB.
>>436025AI won't replace a whole lot of hired artists any time soon unless your entire job is to create inspiration. I work as a software dev and would love to have something like github copilot and I don't really feel threatened by it.
>>431752Shame doesn't do anything. There has never been a time when a machine came along that could do the work of ten men, that people were shamed out of using it.There will still be jobs for artists, but not as many. Artists might be able end up as AI prompt wranglers and touch up guys.
>>431754Look how much it's improved over the last year, then try to visualize how much better it could be next year.Now picture the quality of some artists who make a living entirely from their art
>>432406Even if AI only took the jobs of concept artists, that would still be a big deal, but I don't think it will stop there.Even with the technology in its current state I could train it on a thousand comic panels and feed it photos of me in certain poses to base new images on. AI assisted comics in days instead of weeks.
>>432495>Literally everyone has an amazing camera in their pockets, yet professional photographers exist.Everyone used to pay to have portrait photos taken. Every shopping mall had that service. Now they don't because everyone has a camera in their pocket.
>>432976This sounds like an opinion from late 2020. Do you have anything a little more up-to-date?
It can't do graphic designcan't do typography, can't do hands,we're safe so far
>>431227>here won't be any need to pay artists, or even pursue art as a career.I'm sorry but can you remind me where does the AI learn to draw from? Next time don't make a word salad if you don't know what you're talking about.Literally every AI generator artwork that I saw so far that wasn't simply some fun patterns of space where complete horse shit.
This is the type of shit that starts radical movements against oppressive globalist bankers
>>431215I work in the tattoo industry, and most guys can make a skull or rose ect. The ones that really succeed are the ones with an individual style that noticeably sets them apart. I think people are always going to prefer something with personality.
>>436278Look at dall-e 1 vs dall-e 2.
>>436282It learns its style the same way you do.