Modernism sucksUse more fontsDesign schools need to stop trying to teach modernism as the only way of designing.
>>430685>modernism as the only way of designing.Good ones expose students to at least two ways, and one of them is the really awful way that should be avoided at all costs if for no other reason that it positively screams "cluelss amateur", as does calling typefaces "fonts".That sign would be a perfect visual aid for that purpose, I'd ask if you got it from your graphic design school's teaching materials but clearly you've never been near either.
>>430691This was a popular way if designing things in the 50s and is still poular on vintage things like hot rods.You have been brainwashed by a design school.I went but question their push for modernism.
>>430691How the fuck does it scream clueless amateur when every single vintage sign writing book is full of examples just like this?
It takes an incredible amount of skill to control a brush like this but some University brained designers who have educated themselves out of critical thinking say it's unprofessional despite not being able to make anything without a computer doing 70 percent of the work.I did the design degree too but I went in there with a love for things such as vintage sign writing and I have never accepted that modernism is the only way to do things.
Part of the reason why modernism took over was because it was fast and efficient and cost effective.Modernism was never all about style.
>>430685>>430773>>430782>>430783Did you pay attention or were you busy playing Elder Scrolls in class?There is a time and place for everything. Plenty of designers and businesses use multiple typefaces, but just because it doesn’t fit the style someone likes it becomes “bad”. Go back to your notes and see what you wrote down about the importance of the target audience. The modernist food establishment, McDonald’s, uses up to 4 different typefaces on its wrapper. Do you really care if it’s the mainstream thing? Jessica Hische has helped make lettering more popular and you see it all over the place. Feel free to continue looking at things you hate and wonder why everyone else is an “idiot”.
>>430785>There is a time and place for everything. Plenty of designers and businesses use multiple typefacesThen why the fuck are you arguing with me?
>>430785>The modernist food establishment, McDonald’s, uses up to 4 different typefaces on its wrapper.Which goes against modernist design by the way.
>>430790I don't think I'm arguing with you, I'm just trying to push you off your soapbox because we've all heard it a million times on /gd/.>Globohomo bad>Modernism bad>No skill>No talent>CheapWe get it, you're upset with what you see, but like a lot of the people on this board, no one seems to post any of their own work exploring what they like. If they do it's the same low effort work that they post because "heh, it only took my 20 minutes and graphic design is gay". You're at the same level by making statements like these.>You have been brainwashed by a design school.>It takes an incredible amount of skill to control a brush like this but some University brained designers who have educated themselves out of critical thinking say it's unprofessional despite not being able to make anything without a computer doing 70 percent of the work.No one is brainwashing anyone. They want you to understand the reasons for using a limited number of typefaces so you can later break that "rule". Hopefully, your school had you reading Bringhurst and Spiekermann.If you're interested in pushing your type skills further, check out Bethany Heck's Medium page.>https://medium.com/s/about-face/the-value-of-multi-typeface-design-ccd67227b0ee>>430792By the way, no it doesn't.
>>430801>Globohomo bad>No skill>No talent>CheapI never said this.
>>430801Please explain to me how using lots of fonts doesn't break the rules of modernism and where you read that.
>>430806I'm referring to the state of this board and its constant need to have threads about how bad something is. >It takes an incredible amount of skill to control a brush like this but some University brained designers who have educated themselves out of critical thinking say it's unprofessional despite not being able to make anything without a computer doing 70 percent of the work.You did say this. Now I don't want to assume that just because using a brush requires skill that using a computer doesn't require any, but that seemed to be implied.>>430807Using multiple fonts is fine and is highly suggested. It's when using multiple typefaces, you want to make sure that each has a purpose and goes together. I didn't go to a design school, so maybe their typography courses aren't thorough, but my professor had a deep love for it. I've yet to see any serious typographer mention that rule in modern graphic design. Even looking through Meggs' History of Graphic Design I see no mention of it.
>>430818Using a computer does require less skill.I have to pretend it doesn't though to not upset other designers but I am free to say what I really think on the internet.
>>430818Do you know what modernism is?Or are you thinking modernism just means new?
>>430819You're confusing effort with skill. Just because some of my art directors had to use Letraset to create layouts doesn't mean they had more skill, it just meant it required more effort. Many of them are glad they don't have to use that anymore and the skills they honed were from actually practicing design.>>430820I'm not sure that you understand what modernism is. As I've stated, Meggs' History of Graphic Design takes you through all the eras and you can see for yourself there is no mention of what you're suggesting.You clearly want to know that you're right about modernism.>Which goes against modernist design by the way.>Please explain to me how using lots of fonts doesn't break the rules of modernism and where you read that.As the other poster mentions, you're referring to typefaces as fonts and although they're interchangeable in daily conversation, this is an instance in which discussing a historical design era that one should really focus on semantics. When looking at even the most iconic modern posters you will see the use of various Helvetica fonts.Hope you didn't pay much for design school.
>>430774>every single vintage sign writing book is full of examples just like thisBullshit, before all you had to do was type the letters into a machine people designed signs understood that regardless of how many typefaces you use a sign like that is utter garbage that is overcrowded and cluttered and unbalanced that it is virtually illegible.No vintage sign writing book worth a shit would use thar as an example of a well designed sign, it's thecexact opposite.That so many people on this board miss that along with why too many typefaces is a problem is NOT the fault of "modernism" or design schools, it's the result of people being clueless and proud of it and refusing to believe someone else knows more than them.Many such cases in the arts.
>>430785A wrapper and a sign serve different purposes, and where there is mandatory label information that might not be taken positively type is often designed to not draw attention to that info or be easily readable. So much so that there are in some cases laws stating the size and style of type used in things like mandatory legal notices and liability wavers. What's best on a food wrapper and on a sign are apples and oranges.
>>430873Yes, I understand there is a difference between signage and packaging. What I'm addressing is the main points in the OP:>Modernism sucks>Use more fonts>Design schools need to stop trying to teach modernism as the only way of designing
>>430685Hello Teenage Stepdad from the hit Means Tv show Seize the Memes
>>430691When you've been in the biz long enough and every client calls every camera move "pan", it starts to stick whether you like it or not.
>>430818Using a brush is way harder than using a computer.I have a design degree and.i don't want to pretend it's not.Try paint some letters with a brush.
>>430872That's wrong.Go look at some vintage sign writing books you retard.
>>430872Design isn't a part of the arts by the way.>>430888What do you call it when it's painted by a brush and not from a computer program but your mind though?
Modernism is litterally about minimalism by the way so anyone who thinks using lots of fonts isnt against modern are dead wrong.
>>430894>>430896>>430901No one cares about your "design degree" that you got in Guadalajara. You're in over your head and are barely able to keep up on this shit board.
>>430773>the 50syour ignorance is fantastic
damn watching an educated anon get swarmed by the ignorant mass is tough
>>430896I call it panning the brush.
>>430913How's it wrong then? (It's not)>Inb4 it was also done before the 50s so you are wrong.
>>430947since there were signs and sign painters its been a thingromans prolly didnt do it thonor the egyptians
>>430993Okay still not wrong.
>>431061>>431061bitchyou are wrong as fuckits a sign painting from at a minimum a century before your uneducated retarded guessthe 50s is not some sepia past lifewilliam burroughs is from the 50s science fiction is from the 50s just go be wrong fucking quietlythe bauhaus is over a century old as well by now100 years dumb cunt youre just fucking wrong deal with it
>>431066Still was popular and common in the 50s retard.Also how a lot of (most) milk bars and businesses got hand painted in the 50s.
>>431071helvetica is born in 1957just shut the fuck up already ignorant shit
>>431066You're dumb afHe says >This style was popular in the 50's>inb4 it was popular before so you're wrongYou say>It was popular before so you're wrongYou're dumb af.OP's pic screams 50's and I fucking love it, fuck modern stuff.
>>431095enjoy your ignoranceaint my problem
>>431099But yours is.
>>431438sorry bubim too well educated to qualifyon a more populist note, you do know why basic modernism is called 'mid-century' right?cuz its the 50sdumb ass
>>431474Yes but that doesn't mean that everything in the mid 50s was modernism you absolute retarded brainlet.
>>431474Do you really think in the mid 50s everybody stopped doing old fashioned things and suddenly switched to modernism?It started in the 50s but had still not fully caught on.
>>431661>it started in the 50soh did it?>>431660project much? like did modernity even happen? you dumb ass phone poster
>>431670Either way there was plenty of shit that wasn't modernist in the 50's.I don't know why you have to come in here being all retarded and trying to derail the thread with stupidity.What point are you even trying to make?
>>431670Also now you are contradiction yourself.Do you think everyone stopped doing scroll work and pin striping as soon as Helvetica was invented?>oh did it?No, I was mislead by listening to your dumb arse ramblings...This is why it's best to ignore retards.
Going on about how 1950$ modernism is when it even started way before the 50s.Can you just fuck off.
>>431682lol havent contradicted myself at allfuck off underage cunts jesus christ thinking 1950 was the apex glory day of hand sign painting
>>431726That's what people think of it as and if it's not true it has been retconned as the golden age of hand painting in popular culture.Prove to me it wasn't... Because its a big claim.It is possible the majority are wrong.
>>431727you just buried yourself in your ignorancefuck off underage
>>431729How did I? (You don't actually have an good answer or anything intelligent today)
>>431732go huff some bad etsy live laff love signs underage ignoramus
>>431744You know how I know you are retarded?Because you associate vintage sign writing with live laugh love for some reason and not hot rods and old school milk bars.Also I'm 32
Also I don't think I've ever seen an actual hand painted sign that says live laugh love.Only crappy stickers and print work.
>>431795you know how i know youre retarded?because of your actual utter ignorancejust fuck off