fine art general
Would you mix linseed oil with your turps?
Whom else here likes 16/17th century European Genre scenes?
>>355355No. I like my turp like I like my alcohol: pure, simple, and easy to get high off.
>>355305There really isn't a proper art board here./ic/ is basically just a manga illustration board...Any fine art or abstract art thread gets sent to the bottom straight away because it's not manga illustration
>tfw you will never have the patience, attention span or dedication it takes to become a fine artistAt least I'm decent at Photoshopping a bunch of shit together
>>355422>tfw you will never have the patience, attention span or dedication it takes to become a graphic designer>tfw no ctrl+zAt least I'm decent at throwing paint on canvas.
>>355565Go the fuck awayWhy you even here
>>355643The long answer? I've been trying to shift from traditional to digital mainly due to a lack of space to paint. Then...somehow I ended up here (I think I was looking for photoshop torrents?). And then I hung around a bit and found it pretty comfy. I started reading the logo critiques and looking at web design threads. Seeing the theories you'd previously learnt applied in a very different setting was genuinely interesting. I ended up procrastinating on that photoshop download and went to learn Blender instead, but I still visit /gd/ because I like reading the content on the board. There's always something that makes me smile whenever I visit. (Also Kerning is cute.)
Bob Law 'Drawing 24.4.60'Graphite on paper, 1960
>>355643No not be so horrible it is unpleasant.
do we have any discord server?
>>355388I do not know this painting yet I'd hazard a guess the scene is circa 19th or even early 20th century.
>>355388this came to mind
>>356902Holy fuck, this is good content. Thanks, anon.
I think it's a good idea to have fine art on graphic design board as well. Just my opinion, though.>>355406As far as /ic/, I don't see too many manga posts on it. Maybe it depends on the day of the week.>>355565Did you paint that pepe?>>355651Did you ever try gimp or inkscape? krita?>pic"unusual map" from public domain reviewthought it appropriate for the age of alternate facts
>>357933>Did you paint that pepe?Nah, oil paints are expensive, I wouldn't waste it like that. Pic related is what I did paint (no bully), but since I lost the space I had, it's going to be a WIP for another 10 years or something. I'm really hoping to finish it before I die, at least. >Did you ever try gimp or inkscape? krita?I've tried gimp, but boy is the learning curve steep. I haven't tried inkscape and krita. I've mainly been playing around with corel painter essentials, since that came with the wacom I got, but nothing beats the feeling of painting traditionally.
>>358771Look at this absolute fucking madman
Also while I'm here, bring back bustles and bonnets in modern fashion, you cowards
>>358774Very nicely painted, brush strokes look beautiful, I love the pink figure. It'd be great to watch at different times of day. Crude but tactile.
>>358772>paying a man for their work.
>>356296Grimshaw's cityscapes can be very unsatisfying, they're a façade.
>>357993That's cool. Thanks for sharing wip. Hopefully you get to finish some day. >>360390one of my favorites
>>359913Elaborate? I've always appreciated the sense of melancholy they evoked.
>>360390life imitates art
>>360413I've seen one in a museum. The particular one I viewed, as soon as I came close to it the illusion evaporated. It's like a model toy town , which is fair enough. There were bits of architecture he'd missed out, perhaps he didn't even notice himself. Also, the lighting is obviously an invention, it is more like little 5w light bulbs on a Barbie house than the gas light from the pamphlet shop. Still, a delight.
>>356893Do you have a torrent?
>>360575Huh, thanks for sharing anon. I guess some things really only become clear when you see the work for yourself.
Dexter Dalwood - Old Bailey>Typically, Dalwood’s works depict imagined and constructed interiors or landscapes (usually devoid of figures) that act as memorials or descriptions of particular places, moments or people. They draw on an idea of ‘history painting’ as a genre and, like their antecedents, the quotations, allusions and references can be elusive and highly codified. Referencing and juxtaposing image and content, Dalwood weaves together personal, social and political histories with art history, popular culture and biography to produce new meanings.
>>356902most of the spectators can't even see what's going on
>>361404>there are no blind people enjoying the sound of the showfuck off, ableist
>"Nydia, the Blind Flower Girl of Pompeii" was the most popular American sculpture of the nineteenth century. According to Rogers, it was replicated 167 times in two sizes. The subject was drawn from "The Last Days of Pompeii" (1834), a widely read novel by Lord Edward Bulwer-Lytton, which ends with the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in a.d. 79. Rogers’s evocative portrayal of Nydia highlights her heroic attempt to lead two companions out of the burning, ash-covered city. Her closed eyes and staff allude to her blindness, while the hand raised to her ear refers to her acute sense of hearing. The destruction of Pompeii is symbolized by the broken Corinthian capital beside her right foot.
>>362222Forgot to add: the quality is absolute shite, but I like this painting, so I'm posting it anyway
Something a bit more modern to end this dump
>>358772who is this artist jesus h christ thats some detail
>>362568see the filename >>358771
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>>362223Wow it looks really horrible.
>>363251The work of the artist may have been fantastic, unfortunately, it has been severely masked by the skill of the photographer.
>The gallery's description beneath the chip off the peak says: "Departing from the tradition of land art in making often major modifications to the natural landscape, The Intruder presents an inch of stone carefully removed from the English countryside. At a glance it is seemingly insignificant and yet the material is carefully presented. Scaling the 3,028ft Scafell Pike in the Lake District, the artist has taken the uppermost inch of the highest mountain in England."Apparently the English weren't too happy about this.
>>363279Thought this was gonna be stupid at first but that's hilarious
>>364085Good lord. What's the context?
The Embroidered Computer is an exploration into using historic gold embroidery materials and knowledge to craft a programmable 8 bit computer.Solely built from a variety of metal threads, magnetic, glass and metal beads, and being inspired by traditional crafting routines and patterns, the piece questions the appearance of current digital and electronic technologies surrounding us, as well as our interaction with them.Technically, the piece consists of (textile) relays, similar to early computers before the invention of semiconductors. Visually, the gold materials, here used for their conductive properties, arranged into specific patterns to fulfill electronic functions, dominate the work. Traditionally purely decorative, their pattern here defines they function. They lay bare core digital routines usually hidden in black boxes. Users are invited to interact with the piece in programming the textile to compute for them.
>For Untitled (Perfect Lovers) (1991), [Gonzalez-Torres] synchronized two industrial clocks placed side by side. Inevitably, because batteries fail and things tend toward entropy, the clocks would slowly begin to advance at differing rates, out of sync, having moved, however briefly, perfectly together.
>>356111I've been looking for this painting, or at least it's been on my mind. Thanks
>>366565I bet you didn't even notice the change.
>>356061The bad path is wrong.At 26/40 I miss the couple of kids 'who don't look like their mother' and the stress of being a single mother whose kids died due to starvation.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-17/this-week-10-artworks-sold-for-605-millionI don't really understand how fine art can go for such high prices.
>>363426Maybe early 90's then but I's say that image is pretty 80's.
>>367985How else would rich old Jews launder large sums of money so easily?
>>355644that is hard as fuck
>>356114fucking hell that lighting is good
>>367985>>368033This. Fine art trading/collecting is 95% just laundering money
>>368710>>365452>>363279Conceptualism isn't caterogised as a fine art afaik.
>>369048Yeah, I guess. I'll just chuck them into the contemporary art thread.
>>355705fuck people who make this garbage
>>370481cool it with the anti-semitism bro
>>367096Good luck, asshole.
>>368710>>369048how bout now?
>>371778Still the same two months on.
>>356893>https://mega.nz/#F!rVcExIbB!VN9alzay0OrctggvEn1DUgThanks a lot!
>>372444It's bad to lie, anon
contemporary art thread died ripip
>>356902I read somewhere that if the crowd was downvoting a gladiator it means that they wanted for the losers life to be spared. is it true?
>>364723why are people walking so calmly? otherwise, great piece
>>372952Reminds me of the patriarchy. Everything reminds me of the patriarchy. Abolish money!
>>369048according to what? your mother?
>>373598>don't look at them son, just keep walking and they'll peck someone else
Anyone do gouache studies here? I did one earlier.
>>358771>>358772the intern did it>X-rays reveal a painting under the visible one, in which the horse's girth is visible and the queen's clothing is simpler than the existing one. Later, when Velázquez was finishing details in the queen's head and the horse's legs, a more patient painter filled in the meticulous details of the embroidery, thus obscuring details of the painting previously laid down.
>>373598life just be like that sometimes
>>373704Looks good anon, keep it up!
>>373596historians are not sure.
>>367985you can consider an artwork like a super high denomination one of a kind banknote, coin or casino chipa way to store money in a convenient form
>>369926it's like an alternate world where everything except the sticks is made out of candyfloss
I really like how paintings from the late 1800s up to ~1915 look. They feel much more vivid and real than paintings from before that time. Why is that? Did studying photographs help?
>>376653Maybe the recipe for oil paints changed?
>>356111i bet this will be the only good pic in this thread
>>376653Yeah, the apparition of photography is a direct influence in the styles (a perfect example is realism) of the second half of the 19th century.
>>360974nice, the thumbnail looks like an actual photograph
>>360974Anders Zorn, right?
This is pretty beautiful. My wallpaper right now.
Obligatory William Morris praise
>>378116It is. I love the contrast of the rich greens against the washed-out sky.
>>373596so here's what it means, the thumbs down means to spare the opponent, while a thumbs up mean to kill him. modern media has gotten it wrong for so long that everyone believes it to be the opposite
>>360414>fuck I wonder if that'll be relevant in a hundred years. a quick image trace in illustrator and you've basically got your print. run it anon
Lasar Segal pintado em São Saulo Brasil
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Rio São Francisco e o Forte Maurits, 1638 - Frans Post [1612 - 1680]
Person really into Mesoamerican history hereI happen to be on the board to get some help with a chart i'm making, found this thread and figured i'd dump some art I have which fit into the thread themeWill start with some romanticist paintings of Mesoamerican stuff; should be noted that much of it is very inaccurate in terms of dress, archtecture, etc.Though this actually gets the design of Aztec shields pretty correctly, and while Montezuma and the two people besides him are dressed up in attire reminiscist of what you see in depictions of biblical events, he does have a stylized (inaccurately golden) version of actual Aztec "crowns", which were turquoise mosiac diadems with a triangular frontpiece
>>3792842/?Also not gonna bother to post names/dates/authors, it's all in the filenamesAgain, note biblical-style-clothing for the Cholulans here. Also, typically inaccurate depiction of mesoamrcian archtecture as if it was always worn down ruins instead of with clearn stucco and painted accents, frescos, etc.Once i'm done wioth the romancist paintings I'll move onto a series of accurate recreations of Aztec city-scapes in a line of paintings which show that.
>>3792863/?This is depicting, as the filename says, the founding of Tenochtitlan (the Aztec captial; Mexico city being built over the city's ruinsl "Mexico" in fact being an alternate name for Tenochtitlan). In semi-legendary Aztec historical accounts the city was founded when the Mexica (a specific subgroup of the Nahua culture; the Nahuas , nomadic tribes from Northern Mexico who moved south into Central Mexico and adopted Mesoamerican style urbanism and statehood, whicb became the "Aztec culture"; though "Aztec" is often used to refer specifically to the Mexica)
>>379290Also forgot to metion I have a different version of that Founding of Mexico City painting saved which has the edges more in focus, but is generally of lower image quality/resolution; but still of notably higher res then most random images of it you'll find on googleNot going to bother to post it but if you into googling images enough you should be able to find it. anyways4/?Not much to say here about this one that wasn't already noted in >>379284 and >>379286: Note the clothing generally borrowing from painting traditions depicting biblical/classical civilizations, though, again, you can see a golden version of an Aztec (also last post I noted Mexica vs Nahua vs Aztec as terms, but it should also be noted that the "Aztec Empire" as a political entity was not exclusively composed of Nahua cities and towns, many provinces outside the core heartland belonged to other civilizations such as the Totonac, Huastec, Mixtec, Zapotec, Otomi, etc; while not all Nahua states were part of the Aztec Empire's politicial network, such as Tlaxcala, as i'll touch on next post) diadem on the Tlatoani (king) here. You also see some more Mexican fashion influence in the clothing to a degree (though, of course, Mexican dress is a mix of both Spanish and Mesoamerican influences itself). Like >>379284 with the shield, some of the geometric motifs on the walls and such isn't actually too off, though there'd be way more of them, and usually also floral, avian, and skeletal motifs.
>>3792915/?again, same shit with clothing, not gonna get into thatThis is depicting the senate of Tlaxcala, which was a unified republic of 4 Nahua city states with a collective senate; alongside 20 or so smaller towns/hamlets it had domnion over as a kingdom/state. Sometimes i've seen it described that it was also in some sort of political alliance with the city-states of Huextozinco and Cholula, mirroring the triple-alliance setup of Tenochtitlan, Texcoco, and Tlacopan, which were the 3 ruling cities of the Aztec empire overseeing their tributary and vassal states; though in practice (or perhaps formally as well, based on some modern research) Tenochtitlan was a de-facto captial even amgonst the 3.Tlaxcalatec senators had to undergo public beatings and then a year of legal and ethical training prior to taking office.Worth noting that democratic/republican, to variously oligarchical or aristocractic govermental setups weren't exactly unusual among Nahua city-states. Most had some form of that sort of setup, what differed was the degree of political/admninstrative power the senate/noble council/etc had, if it was open to commonors or just nobility, etc. Even Tenochtitlan, despite being the head of an empire with a clearly defined royal family, still had it's noblity with some political/admisntrative power in terms of electing or deposing kings , though in practice always from the same royal line anyways.
>>3792926/?Another depiction of the meeting between Montezuma II and Cortes.In contrast to the artistic conventions in terms of clothing/architectural motifs of what i've posted thus far, this one is borrowing the ways Aztec society was depicted in a lot of contemnporary-to-the-conquest and early mexican colional period, 16th and 17th century woodcuts and manuscripts by Europeans who never actually saw the region, and were just going off of Conquistador reports: the simplistic feather headdresses, barely covering togas, and distinctly european-style archtecture being applied to Mesoamerican buildings are hallmarks of this.There's some really fun woodcuts adapting maps of Tenochtitlan and it's canals with a blend of of both european and mesoamerican archtectural influences, along those lines from that period but not sure I'll dump those here; not sure it qualifuies as "fine art"
Rain, woodcut by Brazilian artist Oswaldo Goeldi, incredibly simple and beautiful. Chuva, xilo de Osvaldo Goeldi 1957 Brasil
Realistic paintings of great proportions, created to order, intimate painting with the formal rigidity of academicism, 19th century Brazilian painting, Almeira junior, oil on canvas. Hick stinging smoke.
>>379294That was very interesting thank you for making these posts
>>379716I'm not done yet I just got distracted and forgot to continueI'll try to latter
>>379292>tfw the perfidious spaingoloid destroyed this because a venetian son of a merchant wrote a book saying he heard from a guy who heard from a guy (who heard from a guy) that there was a kingdom made of gold on the opposite side of the planet
>>379924Oh trust me you'll be even more assmad about what we lost due to the Spanish Conquest once I get to dumping the pics showing actually accurate Mesoamerican archtecture, cityscapes, and streetscenes.
The Girl in Trigal of 1916 is an oil on canvas by Brazilian painter Eliseu Visconti, the Brazilian public when he saw him named bread and flowers, is a masterpiece of the Brazilian painter.
>>379924The rich manic selfish fundamentalists are scattered everywhere, very sad
Can i get some guidance?Im painting a cavas 2 wide feet by 12 feet high, i want to accentuate the hight of a space and im looking for inspo. Subject matter and pallete are up for grabs, i have a white room.
With paint it is also possible to lengthen, narrow, widen and shorten environments. Did you know that you can even get another sense of the ceiling height only with painting?
If you have an entire room painted dark blue or green and want to “gain” space, try changing the walls and ceiling to white, light yellow or beige!
>>380935Suck my black dick, you stupid yankee.
Helio Oiticica Meta-scheme Red through White 1958 Oil on canvas 52 x 60 cm
Tarsila do Amaral heart of Jesus in 1926 oil on canvas 84cm x 64cm
Hey yankee and after you kill all the people of color? What will you do? Who will prepare your food, who will fight for you in the Middle East conflict, who will clean your house ... Sad as an empty well water... Very sad...
Look at me, it's me, remember that I was here, Arthur Timotheo da Costa self-portrait 1908.
Arthur Timotheo da Costa, landscape with red bush 1914 oil on wood 28cm x 30.9cm
Albrecht Durer - Wire-Drawing Mill / Watercolor and gouache on paper 1489
red tree 1908 PIET MONDRIAN
>>355282bumping two year old thread because lmao
because i don't pay attention to date
>>369181>join for art sharing and criticismThats what this board is for
>>379922I hope you will some day anon
How did this thread survive for more than a year?
I watched this documentary while I was dying of strep throat. I thought of you guys.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jKbbajb5pE
>>381043This is like the opposite of a satisfying image
bump because fucking LMAO
>>355282bump cause old thread.
>>384239oh my fucking god why did i click this.
Can you let this thread die and make a new one ?
>>356893Bumping this link, it still works
wow this sure is a slow board
bumping for art