Now that odyssey g6 exist in the 400€ range with 3000:1 contrast and decent black smear why do people hurt themselves by buying ips?

how come every pc part guide is directed for gaming? where's the general PC list

what's the list for workstation parts?

Isn't glass like fragile? See phones and smashed glass screens and glass backs

Using glass substrate seems like a bad idea

>>96083511
don't smash it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftzs-nZQIh0

>>96083491
>what is multicore
>what is amateur production
The OP serves the anons in the thread, and anons don't post about buying TR or Xeon in these threads

>>96083511
only fragile if you put stresses on it
your computer shouldn't have any

>>96083437
> 2028, but by then game developers will find a way to ruin their performance so you'll have to wait for 2031. And by then we'll have 8k autism to post about instead.
Maybe I should just work harder and get a promotion to try 4K gaming sooner than that. Sadly 4K gaming seems to be pricelocked behind 4 thousand dollarinos if one wants a good monitor to display all those pixels.

>>96083491
same as the gaming one for virtually all cases
anything more would be on a 5k+ tower, which you should be doing your own fucking research to begin with

>>96083569
it really isn't, tard-kun
the difference between a 300 dollar 4k monitor and a 1000 dollar one is honestly minor
the leap from 1440 to 4k is bigger than that $300 to $1000

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>>96083511
You do know current PCBs are made of woven fiberglass with organic epoxy? They break all the time. It's not going to be any different with the new glass substrates either. The difference is that people usually don't treat and expose bare PCBs for normal usage like phones. You'll always have something enclosing it.

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>>96083491
>13600k or 7700x or 13700k
>thermalright phantom spirit
>32 or 64gb ddr4/ddr5
>x670 or z790 mobo
>1 tb ssds, add more if you need more
>4060 or 4070 or 4090
>black case no rgb good airflow (montech 903, >lancool 216)
>psu that's like 50-75% load
basically thats it
honestly most workstations are completely overkill, especially the puget systems, you can do 99% of stuff with a 13600k and 4070
>that time when guy from puget couldn't rationalize their $4000 workstations to a commenter (pic related)

>>96083652
their job is squeezing pay piggies
if their job is selling the product they're shilling, you can guarantee they're trying to gyp you

why in the actual nigga am I getting a consistently higher framerate in 4k compared to 1440p with the same games and the same settings
I knew my cpu was bottlenecking my gpu a bit but for performance to get BETTER? is that normal or what

Anyone have experience with MSI warranties and RMA's? Specifically for gpu's?

I'm starting to get black artifacts more and more often so I'm getting worried. I've never dealt with MSI before so I'm not sure what to expect if I try to RMA.

>>96083726
verify its the gpu first by using different cable + different monitor and different gpu port

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>>96083726
yes people have
good luck

>>96083604
>the difference between a 300 dollar 4k monitor and a 1000 dollar one is honestly minor
>refresh rate and hdr don't matter
No

>>96083807
the difference between a 4k $300 and $1000 is that one has slightly less poo response time but still very poo. There is not a single 4k monitor out that has an acceptable refresh rate

>>96083829
240hz 4k OLED next year.

>>96083807
they really don't when the alternative is 1440p or 1080p
it would be a substantially better use of your money to put the 600 dollars of savings towards upgrading your choice of parts to a 4090 and a 13900ks

>>96083837
with no gpu that has a good enough display port to drive it lel, were so fucking cooked

>>96083764
holy fuck gigabyte get it together

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>>96083829
Samsung Odyssey Neo G7 / Neo G8
I'm not saying I would buy one (I'm waitingTM on OLED), but for someone who needs a monitor NOW, it's a good option

>>96083843
I don't agree. The monitor is one of the longest lasting parts of your build, and it's literally the thing you stare at all day. Neo G7 + 4070 Ti > G27Q + 4090, and they cost the same

>>96083391
THE TWO MOST POWERFUL CPUS OF TODAY ARE BOTH 8 CORE CPUS (7950X3D AND 13900KS)
IF YOU HAVE MORE CORES THAN THAT KYS

>>96083715
It's clearly not the same settings. Something you didn't check is automatically changing and messing things up.

>>96083843
My $300 4k monitor is no match for my $400 1440p monitor in gaming.

So you're telling me there are two companies in the entire world who create GPUs?

>>96084097
no match in what way positive or negative

>>96083859
>displayport 2.0 and 2.1 support 4k240hx
>rtx 4090 has displayport 1.4a and hdmi 2.1
nigger its over
hopefully the 5090 has dp 2.0 or 2.1

>>96084104
no

>theres still retards who believe the fps loss going from 1440p to 4k is worth it in games

>>96084104
>intel arc
>nvidia geforce
>amd radeon
>ATI before amd
>voodoo
>chink moore threads and other chink companies

>>96083652
thanks i think. a lot of words to process

>>96083136
because until this past year I've been able to play everything I want to play at an acceptable experience

Also all the upgrade paths feel like halfway tech, stuff that's not quite good enough for what it claims to do (4k, ray tracing,144fps, OLED, VR), but way too good for all the stuff you used to do (1080p 60fps) or scheduled to be deprecated (1440p). every "balanced" approach feels like a really shitty compromise

>>96084106
As is normally the case with that phrase, the thing that is no match is inferior to the thing it's no match for. 4k VA 60hz vs 1440p IPS 165hz is already enough to settle the debate without having to get into other specs. Back when I bought the 4k, I would've had to spend $800 for a meaningful improvement at 4k, and that still wouldn't have matched the 1440p's other specs.

>>96084181
i don't get it its too late for me sorry

>>96083837
Gee, I hope. I will even switch GPUs for that if displays are affordable enough (1500 or less).

>>96084249
oled g8 is 1k€ rn?

>>96083837
>OLED
DOA, either you give me microled or I buy IPS

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>the minimum cpu requirements for cyberpunk are increasing
>my cpu was a little better than the minimum requirement before and now it's a little worse than the new minimum
the age of the poorfag is over

>>96084302
>doesnt pirate the previous version

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Why have you not taken the VRpill?

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>>96084134
There's no appreciable FPS loss. 4K DLSS Quality > 1440p DLAA and the performance cost is similar. DLSS has made input resolution a more minor consideration. You want a high native resolution (this is the true meaning of native, the physical pixel grid) as your canvas. Internal resolution barely matters, although higher is better. You can easily grow into a good monitor over a GPU cycle or two

>>96084171
>stuff that's not quite good enough
I know the feeling, but nothing's perfect. If you don't already have a VR HMD (or a half decent monitor, or whatever), you can get them fairly cheap and they're at a relative plateau if you're buying value. There's nothing wrong with getting a 1440p monitor for cheap (you can get a decent one for $225) and upgrading to a better monitor in a few years. Yeah, 4K OLED is around the corner, but past that glasses-less 3D monitors will be on the horizon. You can waitTM forever.

>>96084209
It's hard to tell, but he's saying his 1440p monitor is better for gaming. And of course that's obvious, as 60 Hz is garbage for any kind of gaming other than 4x, cRPG, city builder, or the like.

>>96084339
I have it's the only version of the game I have on my pc lol
still, I hope I can run the 2.0 version well, I was totally content playing the original game at 1440p ultra with ray tracing on at a locked 30fps

>>96084353
>lcd
Mediocre, not that I would ever buy a Quest anyway. My Samsung Odyssey+, old as it is, has OLED. The main benefit of the Quest is its standalone nature (although that's a drawback for PCVR, as you're streaming / encoding video from your PC to the HMD instead of displaying it natively), and the Pico4 probably does nearly as good a job with these mobile tier VR games built for Quest

holy kek my 4790k is actually running starfield well
this cpu will never die

>>96084526
> Skyrim engine
It's expected. What's unexpected is HDD lags, turns out there's an option devs "forgot" to enable.

>>96084569
what is hdd lag, I'm on an ssd

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>>96083859
>>96084116
The 4K 240Hz monitors will probably run off HDMI 2.1 w/DSC i.e (((Visually Lossless))).
If you want a full bandwidth signal with these monitors next year (since OLEDs are native 10-bit) @ 4K you'll need to run it custom @ ~165Hz.
Only once DisplayPort 2.0 (UBR20 Mode) is finally out with next-gen GPUs we'll be able to run 4K up to 300Hz (10-bit/No DSC). When is the HDMI going to get off their asses and release a new update that also increases bandwidth instead the optional featurefest decimal revisions that they've been blithering with for years now? Give me HDMI 3.0 you faggots!

>>96083491
>what's the list for workstation parts?
Buy a used dell precision tower on ebay with a couple recent gen xenon golds in it. (Check with intel arc database make sure they aren't from 2007) add ram, ssd and graphics card as needed for your workloads.

>>96083491
Most people asking for advice in this thread are just gamers. So ecc-ram; more than 16 cores per cpu; gpus with ecc vram; 7 pcie x16 slots and more than 4 sata ports are extremely overkill and expensive for them***
That's why there are no workstation parts in the op.

***Even when a good chunk of people posting here are "rich" and allegedly can afford such components.

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>get Starfield digital code from AMD
>don't even want the shitty game but it's free so why not
>redeem code in Steam
>oh it's not a Steam code
>it's a code you need to use on the AMD site... to get the actual code
>sunk cost fallacy
>register on the AMD site and enter the code
>code doesn't give me the code for the game
>code gives me a timed link to download a program that will scan my hardware to ensure that I've installed the AMD™ hardware and then it will allow me to enter the fake code again to maybe get the real code
lmao

>>96084838
Maybe so you don't sell it I guess

>>96084838
There's no steam code
It'll link to your steam account and directly gives it ownership

>>96084751
>***Even when a good chunk of people posting here are "rich" and allegedly can afford such components.
It's funny to see people have no issue with $500-$600 desktop socket boards existing but a $800 board with like 3x the useful pcie lanes is suddenly too expensive and not justifiable

>>96084998
Literally everyone complained about extremely overpriced motherboards

>>96085050
They complained for 5 seconds until everyone started handwaving about how it's not the manufacturer's fault prices are high.

can't wait for my real life to start after I build my new pc

>>96085145
this was inevitable as soon as the market started pushing for sockets with longer support

>>96083391
don't forget to update the OP to tell everyone to wait for gen 14 intel after they announce it tomorrow

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>>96085439
I don't think it'll be worth waiting for. The point of a refresh like that is to prop up street pricing after they've been sagging below MSRP. I had hoped that the 14500 and below would be true Raptor Lake, but they seem to still be Alder Lake. Probably not worth waiting for a 2% single core improvement if you have to pay MSRP for it again

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shitty gimmick or could there be merit to this?

>>96085486
case link?

>>96085475
i'll be waiting and i think it'll be worth it because it means microcenter will reduce prices even more

>>96085475
but how will I upgrade from my 12600k then?

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Blaster Cinema 5
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Sonic Studio 3
Support for Sonic Radar 3
Dolby
Dolby Atmos
Dolby Atmos Speaker System
Dolby Atmos Speaker System For Gaming
DTS
DTS Studio Sound
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>>96085502
rog z11

>>96085505
It's possible you'll get some really good deals on 13th gen

>>96085518
The next time Intel will be interesting is 15th gen, Arrow Lake (IIRC). Intel will be moving to a new node

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>>96085486
Reminds me of the Silverstone Raven series (which had a 45 degree rotated motherboard that was patented by them).
They topped air-cooled case review rankings for years.

>>96085546
Meteor Lake on mobile is going to be interesting, just not for desktop. We can actually verify if the node shrink brings benefits and if it gets Intel back to competitiveness. It's basically going to be the Ice Lake to Alder Lake transition all over again.

Intel share price will drop

>>96085475
I wonder if a 12700k -> 14700k upgrade will be worth it.

>>96085815
No chance unless you need multicore, and even then I'd think you'd be getting the 14900/K

>>96085663
You mean a 90 degree rotation? 45 degree wouldn't make a right angle.

>>96085518
12600K to 14700K is going to be around 20% higher ST performance, more for apps that need more cache. It's a decent upgrade if you resell the 12600K

>>96085530
And you still need EQ APO to upmix

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>>96085815
>I wonder if a 12700k -> 14700k upgrade will be worth it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2023/09/14/intel-raptor-lake-refresh-new-benchmark-leak-and-launch-date-confirmed/
Thanks to the added E-Cores we're looking at an extra 20% MT performance and about a 5% ST uplift from the extra 200Mhz. The other SKUs that aren't getting moar corez will be morel like 10% MT uplift.
According to this: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-13700k/25.html
The 13700K was roughly 17% better performing than the 12700K so going straight to the 14700K will be worth around 30-40% better. Not earth shattering but pretty respectable for the same socket.

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I have an i5-8400, 16gb DDR4 2666mhz, and RX 480 8gb. If I just upgrade to a used 2070 Super will I be bottlenecked by my i5-8400 and 2666mhz CL15 ram speed?

I just don't know if I should spend $900+ on a whole new AM5 build right now if a $200 GPU will get me 90% the way there. I currently don't play any competitive shooties and I only have a 60hz monitor anyways, I mostly just play single player games and want to be able to get a good 60fps lock with medium-ish settings, no ray tracing or anything like that.

>>96085856
>You mean a 90 degree rotation? 45 degree wouldn't make a right angle.
You're right.

>>96085948
Probably not going to be worth it I think, especially since I plan on selling this PC to a classmate by summer 2024 anyway and building something new then.

>>96086014
>Probably not going to be worth it I think, especially since I plan on selling this PC to a classmate by summer 2024 anyway and building something new then.
If that's the case then wait on Arrow Lake, not only will it be a brand new architecture made a new node but with a new socket as well that promises similar lifespan that LGA 1700 does.

>>96085965
Why are you poor?

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>>96083391
Are Inno3d and KFA2 decent brands?

>>96086061
yeah just take out another credit card

>>96086061
I just don't like wasting money. Really the only reason I want to upgrade is for the RE4 remake DLC, armored core 6, and eventual Elden Ring DLC, my current build is just starting to drop frames a bit too much for my liking in these new games.

>everything has arrived except the GPU
I AM GONNA I AM GONNA BUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILD

>>96085695
Good, I need to buy more.

>>96086205
Same here bhaiyya, enjoy

>>96085965

>13600k
>4070 or used 3080 ti
>32GB DDR5
>B760 motherboard

>>96085965
Used 2070 Super will be a big upgrade

Are AM5 boards still trash?

I installed a new GPU. Now my on-board ethernet adapter has a different PCI slot number and all my iptables rules are broken.
With my old GPU, which was quite old, the ethernet adapter was device 02:00.0 and the GPU was device 01:00.0.

What are these new "PCI Bridge" devices?
What determines the PCI Express location of something on-board? The motherboard didn't change, only the thing in the first PCI Express slot did.

$ lspci
...
01:00.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 10 XL Upstream Port of PCI Express Switch (rev c1)
02:00.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 10 XL Downstream Port of PCI Express Switch
03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 24 [Radeon RX 6400/6500 XT/6500M] (rev c1)
03:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio Controller
04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0c)

>>96086575
yep. still blowing up. still blue screening.

>>96086575
Leave DDR5 alone until Ryzen 9000/Intel 15th

>>96086586
Most times those are just the order in bootup sequence
You must have scripted something to rely on those. There is no way it should break something on a normally configured install

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still waiting on this
they claimed it'll be the best AIO on the planet well where is it already

>>96086575
still taking 2 minutes to boot

Does anyone have a good build for roughly 1500?

>>96086821
>There is no way it should break something on a normally configured install
Just some persisted firewall rules that expected enp2s0 as the interface name. Annoying, but not much else.
But I don't get why a budget GPU has PCI bridges baked into it. I'd half expect those to be part of a riser card or something. What the fuck is AMD doing?

>>96086883
United States

>>96086887
>enp2s0
Those aren't fixed either anymore

Want to get I to building my first water cooling PC. I'm not scared to do open custom loop if it looks cooler. Does AIO have cool custom RGB aesthetic? I forgot to save the webem but someone had a really cool night life/ matrix build black with orange coolant and flowing through the CPU/GPU

>>96086915
My bad it was wlan0 eth0 that wasnt fixed anymore

>>96086883
>>96086898
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pBTW34
The $50 under MSRP 4070s are a bit of a crap shoot right now. If you wait a few days you might be able to get the ASUS Dual for that price, or just pay the original MSRP for it

4080 for about $950

Guy says it's new, I might do something stupid here

>>96086451
retard

>>96087076
do not buy any of this.

>>96087137
Use your words, anon

>>96087127
Sus

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What's the best $200 or less GPU you can find used/refurbed on ebay?

>>96085965
just get the used 2070 super
upgrade your cpu to used 8700k and fastest 32gb ram you can afford (3200mhz cl16 or 3600mhz cl18)
if your motherboard cant take a 8700k (for example oem) then just buy a 12100f/12400f with cheapest b660/b760

>>96087428
Not worth buying the i7 or faster RAM
The money would be better spent on a modern platform

>>96087428
that is really bad advice
going from an 8400 to 8700k is not like going to a 5800x3D

>>96087284
3060 Ti if you get lucky, maybe 2080 Ti if you don't care about power consumption
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=3060+ti&_sacat=27386&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_PrefLoc=3&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_udhi=200&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=3000

>>96087445
not for a poorfag unless its cheaper (minus electricity but you can limit wattage if youre europoor)
its good enough for their "1080p60hz gaming"

>[Monitor] INNOCN 32M2V 32" Mini LED, 4K, 144Hz, IPS, HDR1000, HDMI 2.1, 1152 zone, 99% DCI-P3, USB Type-C Connectivity, Pivot/Height Adjustable Stand - $849.99 (Amazon)

based or cringe?

>>96087474
So is the i5
New RAM especially is a waste

>>96087480
You'd just buy the Neo G7

>>96087469
the 8700k is only 10% slower than the 12400f
also it wont bottleneck his shitty 2070 super like the 8400f (no hyperthreading)
thats why i said it, it should be cheaper to spend like 50 bucks for a used 8700k than to buy a whole new platform for 250-300
>>96087489
>New RAM especially is a waste
16gb is not usable in 2020+3

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>spent 20 minutes finding the screw box
>it is packed inside a HDD tray

>>96087549
weird shit like this is why every time I build a new pc it takes hours

>>96087540
he's gonna be bottlenecked by his monitor refresh rate more than his CPU. Also where are you getting a $50 8700k

>>96087572
>he's gonna be bottlenecked by his monitor refresh rate more than his CPU.
you dont need more than 720p59hz
>Also where are you getting a $50 8700k
people are dumping old used cpus online everyday, you can find a ryzen 5 3600 for 60 usd
im sure something like a 8700k can be found for cheaper if you look hard enough

>>96087540
>16gb is not usable in 2020+3
It's definitely usable

>>96087611
cheapest I see on ebay.com is $115
I mean sure if you want to check your local classifieds daily you might be able to find a killer deal.

>he didn't just add VRAM to his 4070 Ti
ngmi brainlets

https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/16kr02y/i_dont_recommend_anyone_doing_this_mod_its_really/

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>>96087648
>>96087428
>>96087469
>>96087474
>>96087611
>>96087648

If we're poorfagging this hard, then just get a ps5

>>96087653
i just checked german ebay and i see a non k 8700 for 50 euro, a bunch of other non k's for 70 and one 8700k for 75 euro

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>>96085948
Way more than 5% ST in gaming. 14700K should roughly match a 13900K. 12700K to 14700K upgrade would be a 18% upgrade in CPU framerate on average. It's same uplift as going from Zen4 non-X3D to X3D, and people here ate a $100 resale loss on a 7600X to do that upgrade.

Damn! I saw some motherboards on sale at amazon on the weekend but refused to buy them because they obviously wouldn't be shipped until Monday. Well, it's Monday, and they're no longer on sale. How often does amazon place motherboards on sale?

hows this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LHsYgB

whys this thread so dead compared to the other OP?

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>>96085530
>monitor speakers

>4090s still melting
lol

>>96087852
>30 dollar 300 watt psu for a pc that pulls more than 310 watts and a cpu that has spikes up to 300 watts

why my 7950x sometimes restart with microstutters pcbg? It disappeared for months after killing ftpm but its back again and now i restart my machine like its a fucking slot machine just so my audio doesnt give me a seizure

>>96087934
faulty cpu rma it

>>96087934
am5 feature

Thinking of buying another 16gb of DDR4 ram.

>>96083511
>>96083391
literally all pcbs are made out of fiberglass, intel invented a news story today just to take the headlines

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Do I have enough power to run these components:
PSU: EVGA 750 BQ, 80+ BRONZE 750W,
CPU Intel i5-12600k
GPU TX 6800 XT

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Evertyhing so expensive.

>>96083391
>Avoid iGPU-less CPUs
>has the 5600 in there
Shill OP

>>96087934
Return it nigger, the shitty motherboard too, why do you put up with faulty products?

when running a benchmark is it normal for the "GPU core load" to be at 99% while only reaching 85% of the TDP? Is that a sign my 12VHPWR isn't working correctly?

>>96087655
I think the 40 series must have some sort of vbios lock that prevents this because i never seen such a mod on a 40 serie

what's nvidia version of the 6600?

>>96087934
bad psu

Why the fuck wont my shit post? The only thing I changed was going back to a 2600 from a 5800 and switching to my old gpu and cpu cooler I feel retarded I can't troubleshoot it

>>96088531
something probably isnt seated right or just not plugged in at all, if its a heavy gpu it's actually quite easy to not push it in all the way just from the sheer amount of pcb flex

>>96088508
There's not really one. Closest would probably be the 3050

>>96088408
Definitely can happen if you've got a 4090. A lot of games or benchmarks aren't going to be able to make the GPU draw its power limit
https://youtu.be/8FmFjTg2m-w?si=VtZ53iHnqkSout3F&t=338

>>96088531
Some BIOS removed support for Zen+ in order to support Zen3 IIRC

any big brain can explain me why a menu runs at 30 fps? what's the logic behind this?
been looking at mortal kombat 1 and I'm wondering why the fuck is this even a thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA5YwIIQlAc

4000 series shills need to fucking die

>>96088699
developers are gay retards and everyone smart died from covid

>>96088768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lUza0qZ95s

>>96088768
>whining about products
>immediately a fucking rbg aio advertisement
The ironing

i want to get a 1440p monitor for games, but i also watch a lot of movies and shows. are 1080p videos going to look fucked up on it? ideally i'll just dual monitor with a 1080p one, but was wondering about that.

>>96088912
Not really
>>>/g/mpv

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>>96088768
Yeah recent prices have been too disgusting

>spent time researching quietest cases, gpus and psu's
>spend a lot of money on upgrade
>Hear tiny coil whine from psu
Can I do something about it? Or does a PSU always make a tiny bit of coil whine? RMA?

>>96088912
Yes, it'll look blurry. A second monitor to accurately scale video is ideal.

>>96088912
no it won't
don't believe what that other guy said

>>96083652
Mind naming a good psu? Im completely new at this and I am looking to buy a pc with those exact items.
Any additional tips would be nice aswell

>>96088912
No. Video image clarity depend more on bitrate.

Complete fucking retard here, is there somewhere i can go to learn about pc parts specs etc and building one from scratch?

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>>96088768
man does jay ever say anything of value about the GAMING part of pc gaming?
pc gaming is in 'self destruct mode' yet normal people aka not techtubers looking for easy paychecks are busy playing games instead of combing over benchmarks and price/performance ratios
people who actually play games don't care about any of this techtuber whining, if they did baldur's gate 3 wouldn't have had almost 900k concurrent players, armored core 6 wouldn't have had over 150k concurrents, and starfield definitely wouldn't have had 250k concurrents on steam even despite the fact that gamepass exists and the port sucked, and all this shit happened within a month

look at this chart, there's more people playing games on steam now than during the peak of covid with all the lockdowns going on

tl;dr pc gaming is not pc hardware, more people are playing on pc than ever despite whatever is going on with hardware prices and sales, slump in hardware sales doesn't mean a slump in active players

>>96089034
yeah its called lurking, try it sometime

>>96089070
Yeah sure man, shill more 4000 series. Can't wait to buy 5070 at $1000

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC9U3ushV-0

>>96086069
Own an Inno3d 3090. Heatsink is overbuilt as fuck, but the fit and finish is absolutely abhorrent. The heatsink screwed in bends the pcb significantly, it uses a retarded thermal pad size that you can't find anywhere, and even their factory pads left one mosfet uncovered that all other reference 3090s have padded. Ordered a water block for it because even though it still works I don't feel comfortable at all with having a pcb bent like that.

>>96089070
95% of PC players play on potatoes

>>96089070
he didnt say pc gaming is in self destruct mode... he said they pc industry,,, which really he means the pc components industry specifically targeting pc builders....
where he is complaining about insane price rises that dont match up with inflation/rising material costs and the association of features with extremely expensive high-end hardware that arent actually expensive features and would have in the past been included in less expensive hardware....
idk what you are arguing against but it certainly isnt that video bud.

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/tvXLPF

Region: New Zealand
Budget: $1500NZD +/- a few hundred I guess.
Purpose: Gaming (maybe a few AAA games, but nothing too intensive. No overclocking etc...)

>>96089070
>slump in hardware sales doesn't mean a slump in active players
That's part of the cause of increasing hardware prices. No one really needs to go out and buy new hardware for AC6 or BG3 (although quite a few anons have updated ancient rigs for it). PC is the premium platform, and consoles with trash tier 6650 XT graphics and garbage FSR2 cost $500 while being subsidized by game sales. Of course a 4070 is going to cost $550 on the heels of crypto, pandemic, and monetary supply inflation, because it's a luxury item, and there's basically no competition to drive prices down.

Regardless, and I've said this many times before, Nvidia, AMD, and Intel don't care to sell hardware at anything but a premium. They can make way more money pricing you out of the graphics card market and convincing you to pay for GeForce Now or an equivalent. (And this isn't restricted to gaming; ever wondered about the push toward cloud computing or realized you can rent time on an H100?) Why would Nvidia sell a 4080 once to a single person and have the hardware filter through to the used market when it can sell 10 or 20 people the same single 4080 at the same damn time and never even have it get resold?

>>96089259
he spends half the video crying about ricer tier parts being expensive which is irrelevant for most pc gamers
no one cares that there's some high end mobo that costs $700 and most people aren't buying 4090s or 13900ks so I don't see the point of him showing graphs like that
ricers are gonna rice and normal people will buy midrange or budget shit for their 1080p 60hz screens

psu for a 3050?

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>>96088768
>Jayz: "Advice to Nvidia, break off GeForce from Jensen and let him do AI since that's all he cares about"
Wow pleasantly surprised he actually went there.
I've argued before that AMD continuing to exist in the GPU space as some token controlled opposition following cartel-like price anchoring strategies is harmful to the industry and consumers. It would be better if they just exited the market period so the DOJ could then sue to break up Nvidia as the monopoly they fucking are without giving them a facile defense to point to as viable competition to them being available (like Intel would arguing in the event they represent a true threat atm and who'd believe them if they did?). Frankly, the fact the DOJ/FTC hasn't already sought a trial to shatter Nvidia into smaller entities baffles me. They have 88-90%+ of the market and a simple time series of their ASPs and Margins vs. Market-share should be enough evidence for an anti-trust case. And that's without subpoenaing testimony/depositions of EVGA and other AIBs who've been abused by Nvidia in their supplier position. What more would they need? Nvidia is the modern AT&T.

>>96088939
And he makes the point that x70 SKUs are even worse as they've always with the midrange mass-market cards and now cost more than consoles. And the graph looks basically the same with inflation adjustments. Only the line shifts up the Y-Axis a bit.

>>96089325
https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/mgVnL9
3060 8 GB is crap, 3060 12 GB is better hardware but it's not very strong relative to the most demanding current games

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Trying to get into PC gaming and I've never built one before; so I looked around for prebuilts in my country. Are any of these worth taking?

>i5-13400F
>ASUS GeForce RTX™ 4060
>ASUS PRIME B660M-K Gaming Motherboard - Rock-Solid Foundation
915 in USD

>AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
>ASUS GeForce GTX 3050
>ASUS TUF B550M-Plus Gaming Wifi II
889 in USD

>i5-13400F
>Intel® Arc™ A750
>MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI
915 in USD

Link to actual store: https://pcx.com.ph

3050 or 2060?

>>96089413
Of those three the first one is best. The last one is technically better value but Arc is not a good idea for a noob.

>>96089413
Maybe first

>>96089448
2060 is faster and probably half the price on the used market

>>96089463
>>96089469
I'll go with the first one then, thanks!

Any 3rd world country anon here? should I take the import pill?

>>96089413
oh cool a literal advertisement

>>96089502
Targeting the untapped Filipino anon demographic. A bold move which might just pay off.

>>96089386
We've literally have had this discussion before in prior threads. The problem is that there is no good way to split off Nvidia like AT&T regionally. You don't solve the monopoly question by doing it the obvious way which is splitting up the company into enterprise only and then everything else because Nvidia has a stronghold on both enterprise and various other smaller sectors like consumer GPU or CUDA which isn't only enterprise leading but also consumer and research as well. GPU only and everything else in a seperate company like propsed for Microsoft also wouldn't work because again, doesn't solve the main issue.
You also can't force competition because there is no guarantee of better outcomes with government involvement, literally see what happened . Even if Qualcomm, Imagination, and etc. decided they wanted in and can license CUDA and DLSS and etc. for some time, there is literally no guarantee of success that you will get your lower prices, better cards or continued competition or etc..just doing that over the free market. And the time to do this would literally take at least half a decade to litigate and play out.

.>>96089559
*literally see what happened with railroads in the US.

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>>96089502
I just want to play videogames anon

>>96089547
lol even the average filipino wagie would still need to work for 12 months straight just to afford that kind of rig alone minus the other peripherals still

>>96089583
Since you already have a PC, with an okay budget CPU to boot, you should consider simply adding a graphics card. If your PSU is ≥500W you could install up to a 4060 and get similar gaming performance to that first PC at substantially reduced cost.

>>96089583
Dude just get a 4060 yourself, or even better a 4070ti if you were willing to spend that amount of money

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>>96089583
you can just buy a new gpu at the fraction of the cost and upgrade your cpu instead if you want to

>>96089619
>>96089638
i concur with these anons

>>96089583
you could maybe try the streaming service from nvidia now. it's really good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_qfE3IUceo

>>96083859
you think the display port is the problem? with this new garbage that's coming out, there is no gpu that can run 4k240

>>96089693
It's good but not a even a tenth of the PC experience unfortunately, when I had to use it I preferred to use my crappy laptop to play old shit games than use GFN to play newer games

>>96089547
people clicking the link and giving them views actually pays money

>>96083391
nvidia shill OP lol

>>96089751
How do they know the traffic comes from him? It's just a generic link - no referral info.

>>96083391
>Avoid: outdated Samsung 970 Evo Plus
for what reason?

>>96089744
Also Gamepass Ultimate was better because you practically got 90% of the console experience, but I still didn't like it that much because of the controller requirement and the games

>>96089778
they probably have no idea what or where the smuck they paid is posting the link

>Fully seat a 12VHPWR connector in its socket, otherwise the connection can melt.
where did it all go so wrong that people need to be reminded of this?

>>96089502
Fuck, they got me, almost bought some shitty Flip prebuilt and made them ship it across the world just so it arrived as a pile of scrap and a potentially underage woman chained to it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPYVkmfHfac

AMD won so NVIDIA drops prices now they wonnered

>OP
why is ultra budget a used rtx 2060?

>>96090000
should be a used rx5700xt

>>96089930
They aren't winning anything when people keep using them as an excuse to buy Nvidia cheaper. We've seen this for the past several generations since Polaris 6 years ago. Applauding them in public gives them nothing when they aren't getting money from sales to fund the division thus further perpetuating the cycle of non-competitiveness. I would be surprised if any of you fucks will buy Intel Arc Battlemage let alone AMD in the future.

>>96083511
They aren't using the same glass that goes on your iPhone screen, monkey fucker

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https://videocardz.com/newz/xbox-series-2024-refresh-and-next-gen-xbox-details-leak-out-microsoft-considering-amd-zen6-and-navi5-architectures
>Some details about the upcoming next-generation Xbox console have been leaked as well. The console is rumored to potentially feature either an ARM64 or AMD64-based CPU, with the latter being Zen6. The leaked roadmap included in the presentation indicates that a decision is pending on whether to opt for ARM or X64 architectures.
>Additionally, the new Xbox is expected to come equipped with a GPU incorporating AMD IP based on Navi 5 (RDNA5). The documents suggest that Microsoft may either collaborate with AMD to design a chip or utilize their license for Navi 5 graphics. The latter option seems more likely if the ARM64 chip is chosen over the Zen6 APU.
Microsoft and AMD keeps winning!

good psu for a 4070ti?

>>96090166
AMD WONNERED

>>96090224
750w or more with gold rating

>>96086883
>>96086898
for that little, you'll have to lean on used parts and good judgement

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/events/on-event-series/innovation.html

INTEL WON TODAY

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I'm switching the direction of airflow in my PC. I can just unclip the CPU cooler fans and clip them on the other side of the heat sink right? Deepcool 620

>>96088939
is that adjusted for inflation?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cnsYgB

My current build. Thanks for all your advice and help ITT, everyone. I bought it in May and paid about the price listed. I know there’s some wonk, but it suits my use case well. The 240 keeps my i7 surprisingly cool, which also performs well. 64 GBs ram means never having to close a program, unless there’s memory leaks. The ample storage means torrenting and downloading whatever I want. The 4070ti has to give me any troubles. It’s very quiet, which is nice. Otherwise very happy with storage and performance overall. I would’ve gotten a 4090 but 2k resolution and 1080 do just fine for me.

Use-case: comfy grad school computer that I use to stream movies on discord and twitch, play all manner of games (i.e. whatever my friends are playing, because for me gaming is just a social dimension…I’ll never be ‘great’ at Siege or CS or Valorant;)

Is there any area to improve in? The 4090 felt obscene, honestly. I’m happy with 144mhz+ refresh rate at 2k or 1080. Although 4k is more and more tempting, for watching movies. I know it’s built, and I’m happy with what I have. I’ve considered cannibalizing to help a friend out who still runs a DDR3 system. I think he has 3rd gen Intel, windows 7 and a 1080. He is somehow able to play Baldur’s Gate 3. He is…dare I say the Waitchad Slayer ™. Anyway, he’s kinda broke and I wanna help him. I was thinking of upgrading my PSU, CPU, GPU and AIO, etc. and maybe furnishing some new parts to build him a pc. Is this foolhardy? I.e. would it be better to buy a prebuilt for him? We’ve been friends for about 12 years and he’s down on his luck. We met on blessed 4chan

>>96090409
>paying for Windows 11
This has to be bait.

>>96090424
I just put it in to show what OS I was running. I use the friendly windows thread for those purposes

>>96090435
At least use the cogwheel to manually set the price to 0$.

>>96089782
Because OP is a faggot.
Years ago it used to be outpriced by chink pcie4 back when samsung did not have their own pcie4.

Why don't more budget to mid-range builds use mATX? It's not like you're really missing out on important features, since if you're budgeting in the first place, it's unlikely you'll use them anyways. Is it just because it's a bit harder to work on due to tighter spaces?

https://webkit.org/blog/14445/webkit-features-in-safari-17-0/

Safari 17.0 adds support for AV1 video on devices with hardware decoding support, like iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max.

HIS GPU DOESN'T HAVE AV1 SUPPORT

NGMI

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>>96090379
Here's adjusted for inflation.

Nvidia just uses inflation as an excuse as well as """expensive manufacturing""" when you see how fast and easy they just cut prices on 4070 and 4060 cards when AMD released their new cards.

>>96090166
I cannot seriously imagine either Sony or Microsoft not choosing an x86 platform for next-gen consoles. Game devs want to be able to do fast and dirty multiplats and headaches from having to port over from incongruent architectures will not be tolerated, particularly coming off a generation of using such chips in a united ecosystem. Neither are Nintnedo who could survive on first party titles alone. The days of IBM PowerPC and Cell processors are gone and not coming back. Everyone has learned their lesson.

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>>96088768
>mfw almost got suckered by this thread into buying a 4070
Good thing after taking my mind off of it from a bit, I just realized I'm doing fine playing the latest games with my current stuff so why bother upgrading with these ridiculous prices.
I'm honestly thinking with just sticking it to consoles for future gaming if it doesn't even improve further, I can't just justify spending so much money for a xx70 card.

Petition to add this to the OP: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Build_a_PC
installgentoo is the standard /g/ wiki

>>96090646
ey goy buy ze new product and upgrade ze product every two years

https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2023/09/XBOX-SERIES-NEXT-GEN-SPEC.jpg

>ML BASED SUPER RESOLUTION

FSR IS DEAD ON XBAWKS GO HOME

DLSS AND XeSS WON

>>96090646
You're not wrong. I always say to only upgrade when your PC can no longer do what you want it to do.

>>96090519
My GPU does have AV1 encode and decode?

>>96090695
Thats just XESS but Microsoft edition. You can use it on any GPU like FSR.

>>96083652
Would a ryzen 7800X3D be good as well?
I am completely new to this by the way

Bought a 4070 Founder card, is the default cooler going to work or am I going to need to go aftermarket?

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>>96091012
>Would a ryzen 7800X3D be good as well?
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/27.html
The 7800X3D is 6-9% faster in games but 19% slower in non-gaming applications. The 7800X3D is slightly more expensive.
Both are good options depending on your application usage mix. The AM5 platform will have longer legs than Intel's LGA1700 series.
Also mid-October the 13700 is getting replaced by a refresh series that will give it's successor a minor clockspeed boost and more smaller cores that will probably make it a tie with the 7800X3D and widen the non-gaming gap between them as a more general purpose CPU (this is speculation on my part as of now). Again both are fine options.

>I am completely new to this by the way
If you are mostly considering building based on PC games dedicate at least 50-60% of your total budget to the GPU and then build around with the remaining leftover money. You can get by with much much cheaper CPUs than these as games don't care that much about the CPU unless you've already maxxed out the GPU horsepower.

>>96090695
this probably isnt coming to amd gpus before the arch the next consoles will be based off release wont it

So Gigabyte released buggy firmware and they told me to stick with stock firmware. Even though stock has issue of it own.
Also told me to contact retailer so he can fill RMA note but chance is it, may not work since the hardware is technically still "works as intended™ ".

Haha fuck this shit, I will never buy Gigabyte mainboard again.

>>96090626
Who would they even license ARM64 CPU designs from? Qualcomm is a joke and Apple's not sharing.

uk bros what are your experiences buying parts from amazon. Normally i'd never consider it but the 3 parts i'm looking to upgrade are all cheapest on amazon and they have just emailed me a 15% off code up to £50 discount.
I've heard somme not so good things about them for pc components.

What is the probability of receiving faulty components when purchasing from reputable manufacturers such as Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, PNY, etc.? I live in a favela tier third world country with limited access to computer parts, so I'll have to order them online from abroad

reply to my blogpost or else I'll buy AMD

>>96091351
>Normally i'd never consider it but the 3 parts i'm looking to upgrade are all cheapest on amazon and they have just emailed me a 15% off code up to £50 discount.
How do you get those emails?
t. Eastern Euro poorfag

>>96089027
psu's have ratings, generally you want to go for gold or higher, while excluding certain shit brands like gamemax. other resources:
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ (tier a is ideal)
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atx-v3-0-pcie-5-0-ready-psus-picks-2023-hardware-busters/2/

here is a part list for a basic workstation
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zw7ht7
>>96091165
he's looking to build his first workstation, not a gaming pc

>>96091291
post the communication here

>>96091375
i just have an amazon account which i barely ever use. I very rarely buy anything from them but they still send me promo stuff sometimes.

>>96091353
1-2%, 0.5% for PNY

>>96091351
Amazon are fine, be careful with returns though my friend’s sister got caught out by a 14 day return policy after trying to build 3 weeks after receiving her mobo

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>>96091415
amazon has a 30 day return policy, your friend's sister is lying

>>96091427
Read the bottom line
She didn’t buy from Amazon directly but through a 3rd party via Amazon

>Amazon is not selling 7800x3d directly in Europe
>only shitty 3rd party seller>not even shipped by Amazon
How come ? Other retailers are very expensive.

My bud told me that when planning a build, you should prioritize the motherboard above all to not run into compatibility issues. Is this true? I always thought that your decisions should be centered around the GPU or cpu

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>>96091469
They do sell it in the Amazon AMD store in Europe but it's sold out

>>96091534
motherboard is a factor to keep in mind but your gpu will be the most expensive in most builds

Quick question for knowers: the CPU cooler I want is not available in my country, but I can buy it from amazon.de, except I have to pay extra for delivery to my shithole because the order is too cheap. So I'll something else. What component has the tiniest chances of having any issues (let alone RMA-tier ones) when bought new? I'm thinking case fans.

>>96091563
So should I make the GPU my top priority and build my system around it, or should I start by selecting the motherboard?

>>96091615
especially if it's a gaming, pc yes.
a motherboard usually only has specific requirements like a chipset and possibly a wifi/bluetooth chip if you need it.
for gaming, try to spend half as much on the cpu as on the gpu (or even less)

>>96091615
I personally start with CPU and build around that and then buy the best GPU within budget. Always PSU last

>>96091603
SSD

can the 4060 do gaming at 1440p respectably? Or is it really just a 1080p card

>>96091640
You joking? Less likely than case fans? That sounds absurd. Plus, unlike the other two, I can't run my system without if it does turn out to have issues and have to wait literal days (in the best case) for my money to be returned.

>>96091648
1440p with dlss and framegen with no RT, also might run out of vram in super brand new games

>>96091534
pcpartpicker doesn't have this problem, your friend is retarded.
>>96091615
Quality case PSU as top priority, with the PSU about 200-300 extra Watts to leave room for something better years later.
Prioritize GPU if you play vidya or do AI stuff (nvidia only atm). Of course, making sure it runs at 80-100% with the cpu you choose in vidya. (just look at benchmarks)

>>96091707
>nvidia only
Lmao, good disinfo.

>>96091726
to be honest, my knowledge on parts is a few years old.

>>96091751
You could have said that's it's much slower on amd, not that it's impossible.

Should I buy a P400A for 84$ or Lian Li LANCOOL 216 for 105$? Prices are converted from my shitcoin local currency.

>>96091648
Bro I run everything on ultra with single fan shitry 1660super, shadows, bloom, god rays, anthistrophic and all that other memeshit off and everything else on ultra

>>96091806
I have the p400a, honestly a great case. Gamers Nexus have reviewed it well

>>96091885
That's exactly why I'm hesitating to change it, but I'm not some zealot that sticks to old stuff just because, maybe there are newer cases in the price range that are objectively superior in every way.

>>96091806
5000d. Honestly, stay away from ricer brads like ones you mentioned

>>96091911
The airflow model? That gets too expensive for me, no thanks. I want to stick to a slightly flexible 100$ budget.

>>96091707
My friend has built 3 PCs

>>96091949
For starters, doing something a lot of times doesn't mean you're good at it.
Second, I've built WAY more than that, so maybe I know what to prioritize. But ig you want to have a shit system, you do you.

Any good resources for cable management designed for first builders? Or will most PC building guides cover that?

>>96092051
Just google "(Insert case model) cable management " and you'll find dozens of videos. If you're patient and watch carefully what they do you shouldn't have any issues.

>>96091939
It's a case mate, you will use it for the next 10 years

>>96092086
That's why you should buy one that you like, not the fotm ugliest shit.

>>96092051
Make sure you buy decent set of cables like cablemod. Though their website is giga dogshit nor there are any videos explaining the difference between flex and mesh besides lel one is more luxurious the other more flexible. Crazy considering they are the most popular brand, but I guess that's their scam when they have no competition so they compete against themselves not showing side by side differences for such a price

>>96091986
Why did you take my post so personally?

>>96092097 which is exactly why I liked a corsair as opposed to Ops ricer chink shit that he wants to get for 100$. I got my haf x for like 157 and that was in fkin 2011

>>96092146
Lian li is much better than your shit though?

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
RTX 4060 8GB (or 3060 12GB)
Gigabyte B550
16GB DDR4 (might extend)
550W PSU

Enough for stable 1080p vidya? I don't really play the most graphically advanced games

>>96092191
Get higher power psu like 650-750.
Yes, it will run easily 1440p most games.

>>96092161
Proof?

>>96092275
Here
*unzips dick*

>>96091806
P400A is a 5 year old case.
216 is less than one year old and has a better front panel, more custom options, better stock fans, room for more fans total, etc etc.
216 is objectively better.
>>96091911
Ignore this idiot, the 216 is objectively the better case while being much cheaper.

>>96092051
>Any good resources for cable management designed for first builders? Or will most PC building guides cover that?
Just bundle them together using zip ties or velcro strips. you're way over thinking it. Work as you go

>>96091986
How many of your builds have exploded?

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thoughts? for 4k >60fps gaming on a single monitor

>>96092327
>P400A is a 5 year old case.
>216 is less than one year old and has a better front panel, more custom options, better stock fans, room for more fans total, etc etc.
>216 is objectively better.
Yeah, I noticed that since I'm buying a pack of case fans, the P400A won't fit them all. I can tolerate tighter spaces and shoddy materials, but I won't sacrifice anything for worse cooling. Guess that settles it. Shame the P400A is so much more expensive in my region, would've loved to stick with it, but it is what is.

>>96092359
do NOT get a be quiet cooler, go for thermalright peerless assassin, phantom spirit or the fuma 3.
grab a 6000CL30 kit instead

>>96087284
a 3060 is is $300 new. Spend the extra $100.

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>>96092385
Phanteks just copies others these days anyway. Their NV5, NV7 and NV9 cases are direct copies of Lian Li's O11 line.

>>96092447
4060*

>>96092388
ty

>>96092448
Would there be other alternatives to the LANCOOL 216 in the price range? Or is that the best I've got?

Forgive the techlet. I'd be able to pass my entire GPU to a VM if Linux gets to chew on the CPU's intergrated graphics, correct?
Also wondering if to go for Phantom Spirit, Peerless Assassin or Frost Spirit with the 14700k since I'm most likely getting that. I'm assuming it'll be thermally comparable to 13700k.

>>96088279
Dell T7910; no CPUs but has heatsinks $250
pair of E5-2680 V4 Xeons $30
(8x8) 64GB DDR4 2400 RAM $50
MX500 1TB SATA drive $50 (keeps PCIe slots open for GPUs)

There you go - 28 cores, 8 memory channels, room (and power) for up to 3 2-slot GPUs, under $500

>>96092524
yes to the first question

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Just picked this up for $260

>>96092359
>CPU
Buy the 7600 if it's cheaper. Same CPU.
>Cooler
Not the most optimal choice now that dual 120mm towers are cheaper. Still a fine cooler though.
>Paste
The cooler will come with some. Fine to buy a tube "just in case" but don't include it in the build list.
>Mobo
Quite expensive. If you need it you need it but you can probably get by with a cheaper board.
>RAM
Like the other anon said shoot for 6000C30. Not because 6 ticks of CAS will meaningfully hurt performance but so you get guaranteed Hynix that you can clock up to 7000+ when you upgrade the CPU.
>SSD
Fine. Overkill, even. I won't price-shop for you. If this is the cheapest model in the class you want then go for it.
>Card
It's a fine GPU in isolation but fuck spending £1000 on a graphics card. I'd sooner cut settings and use DLSS on a 4070.
>Case
Quite cheap given the rest of the build but it won't hurt your FPS so whatever.
>PSU
Nothing wrong with it but top tier 850W units should be around £110.

>>96092191
Overspending on the CPU and possibly motherboard at the cost of RAM and GPU. What's your region and budget?

>>96091806
216 has big ass fans I have one and the airflow is great

Can someone explain nvidia's gpu naming schemes to me? Is a 4060 objectively better than a 3060?

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What is the absolute cheapest GPU that supports the latest formats trans-/en-coding to use with Jellyfin on Linux (e.g., (((AV1))) )?
Arc 750?

>>96092669
arc 380

>>96092689
Thanks. I'll sell my 5700XT and buy Arc 380 with the proceeds.

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LOL AYYMDEAD NO DRIVERS

>>96092570
Nice on3 mate, keep evga shit closed, it will soon become collectors edition item

>>96092359
>keytroll
rip

The 7900X3D is never displayed in the benchmarks, does it suffer from the same problem as the 7950X3D ?

>>96092639
Yes

>>96092751
Of course

>>96092639
XYZZ, Y in very few cases changes like with the 16ZZ series, which was basically a 20ZZ without RTX.
If X increases is next gen.
Higher ZZ, more power.

>>96092612
>Buy the 7600 if it's cheaper. Same CPU.
7600x is £5 cheaper than 7600 here for some reason
>Not the most optimal choice now that dual 120mm towers are cheaper. Still a fine cooler though.
I've switched it to the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE now, cheaper by quite a bit. thanks
>The cooler will come with some. Fine to buy a tube "just in case" but don't include it in the build list.
Cheers, removed
>Quite expensive. If you need it you need it but you can probably get by with a cheaper board.
Will re-research this, thanks
>Like the other anon said shoot for 6000C30. Not because 6 ticks of CAS will meaningfully hurt performance but so you get guaranteed Hynix that you can clock up to 7000+ when you upgrade the CPU.
Thanks, swapped for g skill 32gb 3000c30
>Fine. Overkill, even. I won't price-shop for you. If this is the cheapest model in the class you want then go for it.
Samsung are doing a promo here where you get £30 back if you buy ssds from them, so that makes the 980 excellent value atm. lasts a couple more weeks iirc
>It's a fine GPU in isolation but fuck spending £1000 on a graphics card. I'd sooner cut settings and use DLSS on a 4070.
It's within budget - I want to treat myself to high end stuff / max settings for once. too frugal usually
>Quite cheap given the rest of the build but it won't hurt your FPS so whatever.
Yeah purposefully cheap to allow me to spend more on the important stuff
>Nothing wrong with it but top tier 850W units should be around £110.
Will research this more, thx

>>96092744
>keytroll
what is this?

>>96092795
>3000c30
* 6000c30

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>>96092482
in terms of airflow, the following. but as you can see the 216 tops the chart. the fractal design focus 2 was not reviewed by gamersnexus but is a good option if you can find it for €60-70 in your country.

>>96092385
>>96092482
also, recent cases have become so good that you no longer need to be buying fan packs, the cases with large stock fans like the 216 and torrent keep everything so cool it is not needed

Is 64GB of ram (2x32) worth considering or is it pure overkill?

the montech 903 air base is a budget option for a case if you don't want to spend more than $65 (not available in all regions)

>>96092882
Even games that have 32GBs as recommended end up hitting like 22-24GBs at most, and that's with everything else on my PC still up and running.
That is gaming though, if you have needs for ram, go for it, or if you want to do something fun like a ramdisk or who knows what.

>>96092894
Yeah, comes with 3 stock fans, PWM, 2x140mm and 1x120mm.

Was about to buy a case from this seller on Ebay. Came across his twitter/x account and he used to say the n word back in 2015 and liked a post about Hitler. Imma report him instead

>>96092822
Around 78$ for the non-side panel model. I'll keep it in mind, but at that price range why not buy a P400A?
>>96092856
Wow, that's an important piece of information I didn't know. In that case I can afford putting a few more dollars in my case if it means I won't need case fans.

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>>96092731
Hey, /g/, which one?
169mm on the low profile one means it will be fully within my mITX motherboard (170.2mm)?

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I video edit with resolve a lot and the past few major updates over time have slowed things down on my current pc - I realize 4GBs of dedicated video memory doesn't really cut it anymore. What is the general recommendation for desktop work and not things like video games? At around the 300 USD price point. To avoid getting the unknown source error, I'd rather not get an AMD card. I only rarely play games.

>>96092795
Swapping from 6k to 3k kek

>>96092795
>7600x is £5 cheaper than 7600 here for some reason
That's fair. Just buy the cheaper one at the time of purchase.
>Will re-research [mobo], thanks
Start with the ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 and move up regarding features you need/want. AM5 boards quickly get stupid expensive so consider using add-in cards if you end up over your initial £190 budget.
>[7900XTX] within budget
Yeah it's a fine card given the current market. I'm just salty because my last GPU cost £130 and lasted 6 years.

>>96093117
typo

>Start with the ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 and move up regarding features you need/want. AM5 boards quickly get stupid expensive so consider using add-in cards if you end up over your initial £190 budget.
Will do - appreciate it!

>Yeah it's a fine card given the current market. I'm just salty because my last GPU cost £130 and lasted 6 years.
fair play - my last one was a 7950 from whenever that came out, that system went pop (literally, with smoke) ~5 years back

First time buyers tempted to consider the RX 7700/7800 XT by AMD’s army of Advanced Marketing scammers (youtube, reddit, twitter, forums etc.) should be aware that AMD have a history of releasing benchmark busting, heavily marketed, sub standard products. Although Nvidia’s 4070 only offers comparable performance, it has a broader feature set (RT/DLSS 3.0) and offers far better game compatibility (drivers). PC gamers looking to join AMD’s “2%” GPU club (Steam stats: 5000/6000/7000 series combined mkt share) need to work on their critical thinking skills: Influencers (posing as reviewers) are paid handsomely to scam users into buying inferior products. Experienced gamers know all too well that high average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters, random crashes, excessive noise and a limited feature set. [Sep '23 GPUPro]

What are some alternatives for AM5 to the MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI? I'm not buying Gigabyte, and I want Wi-Fi. This was the recommended board that fit my criteria on Hardware Unboxed, and it's already 180$ minimum on retail because fuck Europe I guess. Reviews I've found are fairly positive.

>Black artifacts while scrolling through 4chins or moving tabs to quickly
Its ogre soon, time to give intel arc a shot

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NVIDIA DLSS 3.5 WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA DLSS 3.5

>>96093279
Bro like I'm pretty sure amd is just a shadow daughter company of nvidia

>>96093304
>NVIDIA DLSS 3.5
What's this one?