Anon, why do you still don't own a pinecil v2?>Now you can repair all of your tech yourself>Only $25>Fully Open-Source (Hardware and Software)So, why aren't you ordering it?
Will it help me get an lgf?
>>93670310I have a regular soldering iron and know how to use it
I have one that's analog so it doesn't need any software. It was cheaper than 25 bucks.
>>93670310hwo does this help me rededm card
How is it better than a normal soldering iron
>>93670310>>93670352never used one of these beforedo they heat up quickly and hold the temperature?all the cheapo ones i've used are just painful
>>93670310i have some kind of soldering iron already.I absolutely fucking suck at soldering though, couldnt even desolder a microusb port. I guess i need a heatgun for that, but the heatgun i have is 300-550 degrees, and is not meant for electronic repair i would just melt the board altogether.
>>93670406you probably don't suck at soldering anonif you have a shit soldering iron its basically impossible
>>93670398It BTFOs bottom-of-the-barrel Hakko ones.
>>93670412maybe i just didn't heat it long enough. It was my first attempt at it ever. I am gonna try again soon. Will practice by removing things and adding them back on random broken electronics i have and hopefully eventually i will be qualified to fix my old laptop.If it's still impossible after longer heating i will buy a better one
>>93670310>>Only $2560 bucks AUDwhat a world....
>>93670310I have pic related but one day maybe I will get pinecil as well.
>>93670310i have tremors, i probably shouldn't touch one of those
>>93670442you shouldn't have to heat it for long at allif you are interested in this stuff just drop the extra money and get a pinecil or ts100 or whatever
>>93670396It's cheap, tiny, heats up very fast.
>>93670481are you going to get brainchipped anon?https://twitter.com/neuralink/status/1661857379460468736
i already have oneit was cheaperit doesnt need software
because theyre not only $25 in europe
>>93670574>it was cheaper>it doesnt need softwareso its shit
>>93670589software makes it worse automaticallyalso cheaper is better unless you are brain damaged
>>93670608>cheaper is betterholy shit how fucking poor are you? the COPE
>>93670545Mine normal soldering iron is also cheap and heats up fast. Its only bigger but has a stand.
>>93670310$25 actually sounds like an impressive price point, especially for open source hardware projects that usually struggle to reach decent economies of scale.But... why do I need or want a soldering iron that requires a USB power supply and has a 144MHz CPU and updatable firmware?Surely the only circuit an iron needs is a temperature control loop?
>>93670310How do you power this without buying a PD USB charger?
>>93670357why are you redeeming?
to be fair you need to be pretty rich to buy pinetrash
>>93670398i use a ts80p which from what i imagine should be a very similar experience besides the physical size, and yes. with a proper power source it heats up in uhhh 10-20 seconds max? maybe less i forget. holds temperature perfectly, has sleep modes too along with tons of totally configurable settings directly on the device thru open sores firmware. use ironos on le github>>93670442don't just try heat at it and expect it to just werk. first make sure your tip is properly tinned and your iron is making good contact with both the solder and the joint. try using flux. if that doesn't work next step is to try feeding in some of your own (high quality, preferably leaded rosin core) solder. i'm far from a pro but these are good basics that might help you desu>>93670662has convenient settings, temp calibration, info readouts, etc. sure it may not be 100% to have all these things but if it's still only $25 and doesn't needlessly connect to le interwebz and is open sores then why not eh>>93670664by using 5v charger and waiting a few days : ^ )
>>93670310why do you need fucking open source for a soldering ironi use pic, they sent me 2 when i got one so i carry one in my bag and have done some small soldering stuff like switching stereos in my old car
Not much point of being supplied over USB when it doesnt have a battery
>>93670802>propiatary frimware>propiatary hardware>expensive propiatary tips>unreparableback /diy/ boomer
>>93670346This. Bought a soldering iron and new guitar jack for less than the price of paying someone else to fix my guitar, and now I have a soldering iron I can fix more stuff with.
I have a weller pu81 kit my grandfather used in the 80s. He gave to me when I was 10. I've been using it for about 20 years. Fuck your ewaste.
>>93670352I got a TS100 before I knew about Pinecil, really like it so far.>>93670396It depends on what you use your soldering iron for. If you repair a lot of electronics, like it's you job, then a good quality station is a much better option. However if it's not your job but a hobby you do from time to time, it's hard to justify spending a lot of money on a good station, this is much cheaper. Another thing it's good at is storage, if you get the carry bag for it it fits everything you need in it. That's also great for another thing, it's super portable. You can power it off of a battery, mine came with a silicone cable with an XT60 connector. So it's great if you do field work.>>93670398Since the heating coil is integrated directly into the tip, it heats up within seconds, I also desoldered bigger components and heatsinks with it without much issue.>>93670406You need a solder wick, and/or a good pump. Wick is much better but I use pump first to get most of it, then wick the rest. That way you use up less of the wick.>>93670412>if you have a shit soldering iron its basically impossibleVery true, I had some cheapo ancient one and it was so annoying to use it put me off of soldering for a good while, especially after the piece of shit just broke.>>93670585Dunno about the Pinecil, but I got the TS100 for less than 50Eur, which included a good power supply with silicone cable (can't melt it with the iron by accident), holder with tiny sponge, XT60 cable and grounding cable.>>93670802Because by the looks of it, that has no settings, no fine adjustment, no sleep function. It's fine if you do stuff like you said, but I bet it would be a pain to solder a whole board with surface and through hole components.Also:>conical tip...yea, no thanks.
Costs like 3x as much in the EU for some reason
>>93670895do you also need open source software for your screwdriver?it's literally a piece of metal that gets hot, gong muh open source on it is retardedalso the OP one doesnt use a battery right? so its not -actually- portable without external power
>>93671032there's more to it than pumping heat into metal unless you have a pos one and those work only if you barely ever solder. it's usb c pd powered so you can use any usb c pd power bank to run it
>>93670929>>93670929>Because by the looks of it, that has no settings, no fine adjustment, no sleep function. It's fine if you do stuff like you said, but I bet it would be a pain to solder a whole board with surface and through hole components.>Also:>>conical tip>...yea, no thanks.if you do a whole board with its shitits a dirt cheap chinese cordless iron, good for shit like soldering parts of quadcopters in the field and shit like that
>>93670743>waiting a few daysBy this you mean it takes a lot longer to heat up? I'm asking because I have one of those laying around, but unfortunately don't have a suited PD USB charger yet and I can't buy one right now.
>>93670310>pinecilpinecels when they hold the tip like a pencil and burn their hands be like
>>93670310>why do you still don't own a pinecil v2Terrible ergonomics.I have picrel instead. Unfortunately, SD-cards don't seem to be readable by it for some reason.
>>93671173i said it like that because i'm not sure if it is even enough power to get it hot enough, i don't know offhand and i'm lying in bed. if it does then it takes quite a while. if you have a qc3 brick it works with those too but less ideal
>>93671232Thanks for answering, I'll wait until I get my hands on a PD charger then.
>>93670310They don't ship to my country.
>>93670396its not its worse>tiny tip zero heat capacity>low power no good for anything bigger than dip>crappy ui, buttons and screen are where you hold it lol>EXPENSIVE TIPS dont be fooled especially if you are starting out you will fuck up tips>meme tip heating technology proven to be crap>cable isn't even silicone wtf??>open source (WHO CARES)but its 25$so is a bag of dog shit
>>93673269I'm not taking advice from someone that buys dog shit for 25$...
>>93670310I'm still mad that they released the pinenote and then just never updated it again.
>>93670310Because my chinkshit iron is better
>>93670310Uses a shit oled screen which will break after some years because its not sealed
>>93673523As far as I know, they don't do software, no? It's on the community to write that. So unless you know how to program stuff and want to work on it, it's not really sensible to buy new stuff from them.
>>93673523Well, they also told the people who complained about serious hardware issues with the pinephone to go fuck themselves
I already got an iron
>>93670310but i do. the annoying part is getting the power supply for it if you don't already have a 65W USB supply. thankfully the power supply to my old laptop had the right plug for it though.i really like how fast it heats up.
>>93670310>>Only $25well thats just a fucking lie
already got bamboozled by the ts series of pencil soldering irons, eventually manned up to buy actual soldering stations.
>>93670396Feels better and much easier to swap tips than my Hakko. I like how compact of a kit it is as well. This guy did a good comparison.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2sPDQeGlj8
>>93670743>don't just try heat at it and expect it to just werk. first make sure your tip is properly tinned and your iron is making good contact with both the solder and the joint. try using flux. if that doesn't work next step is to try feeding in some of your own (high quality, preferably leaded rosin core) solder. i'm far from a pro but these are good basics that might help you desuWell the thing was never used before, i just found it on a shelf i don't even remember buying it. It kinda melts the solder just very slowly
>>93674284because it's tiny. The thing these chucklefucks don't tell you is that the solder planes vary in size, and the depth is important too.Learned this from a guy who helped me recap my xbox, these little baby pencil soldering irons don't do anything against real normal sized planes were the solder needs more immediate heat contact. Something these things can't do. That's why you get a proper full size soldering iron. The temperature comes second, size of the tip first. I strongly suggest checking out actual youtube videos on these things, going over the different applications these different soldering irons have, this is a PSA to anyone else in the thread that genuinely just learned what i'm saying for the first time. I learned the hard way, almost ruining a fucking board wondering if i was just doing it wrong only to find i was uninformed.
>>93670310because i have a chinese soldering station
>>93673628No, I mean they just dropped all support entirely and stopped selling it.I'm not that stupid anon.
>>93670608>software makes it worse automaticallyHow fast does your iron heat up? Also, do you have a Turbo mode? What about temperature presets? Does your iron always work at 450ºC?
>>93670738It costs 25 dollars. It literally costs less than the iron I saw in my local chinese store.
>>93670310Work bought me a TS100 + tips + power supply
>>93670802>why do you need fucking open source for a soldering ironBecause the free software philosophy goes far beyond your computer.
>>93670310Open sores hardware is even worse than open sores software (which is already piss poor). This is because they can't parasite off of a nearby mature, robust capitalist platform like most other forms of socialism can.
>>93670919My grandpa gave me his Soviet iron. Still working until this day.
>>93670919i have something similar, bought it used for 5€
>>93675545do you eat with an open source spoon?
Where to buy
>>93673213And if it did it would cost you $25 + $35 shipping + taxes + tip
>>93670310Has proprietary STM32. Just make iron yourself.
>>93670310I have an 80W Weller station from the early 2000s (WS81) so i never needed it. It's fully analog so it's not like "open source" matters, it's unkillable and the circuit is public knowledge
>>93670310Does anyone here use the breakout board? What are your thoughts on it?
>>93674797Just because its oos doesnt mean its dc's unless im missing somethign
>>93670310Does this thing have a battery?Why would you need a portable soldering iron when you're gonna be stuck to a table anyway?
>>93678981No, its usb powered. Its not explicitly portable, it plugs into a phone charger.
i have the chick giga cheap version. it is ok
>>93670406good soldering iron with good tip that has consistent heat capacity is the most importantif you solder SMD you usually should use from 330 to 360 degree Celcius so heatgun with up to 500 degrees is fine if you meant Celsius, if you're a burger you probably meant F so yeah, that would be too lowalso use a shitton of good soldering flux, buy in a syringe
It's pricey as shit on europeNot saying it's bad but surely there might be something better for a similar price
>>93681150>It's pricey as shit on europeHow much? Its cheap like 50aud to Australia so...
>>93670310I don't have 25$. eat I can do is 5$ from aliexpress.
>>93670310I have never soldered a single thing in my life. Would like to learn but don't know how.
>>93686684buy a soldering project kid made for children, it's 10-20 usd, either that or take something pos and practice removing and replacing parts on it. you have to just spend time doing it to learn
>>93670461I have both this and pinecil and prefer this.Feels like it has more oomph.
It's only $25 if you don't like using it.The tip it comes with is shit.You'll be spending another $25 on tips.Oh and the cord it comes with is stiff.Fork over $10 for the silicone cord.
>>93686684put flux on thingput solder on thingput iron on thing
>>93670310What's the difference with v2?I got one like a year ago and never heard of different versions. Not even sure which I have.
It's not a replacement for a full soldering station but it's good for quick/small shit
>>93670310I really wish they had a metal case for it
Didn't include silicone cable but this is pretty much why I don't have one
>>93673269>tiny tip Zero heat capacity>Meme heating technologyThere's are both untrue the heating technology is the same as what hakko uses and it is far better than the other iron type where the tip slides over the heating element. I've also used the iron on a PS3 to do tec Nikon cap replacements and that requires soldering to very large grounds on a thick board. They hold heat fine
>>93670310>there are no shipping arrangements for your countryok bye
>>93690551Anon if you want to hide your address do it better, it's not hard to read it.
>>93691634Yeah I should have just left it there
>>93670310I have a v1 and love it.I use it much more than my ts80, which is also pretty good.
>>93690551>pine64eu.pngwhat this anon shows.I have two lidl ones, one without any kind of control and one that is analog controlled.For that price i would start to think into getting a proper one instead of a chink one.if anyone knows how to get one in the eu at a reasonable price i would buy one
>>93670310>$3>just worksI don't need more.
>>93675891Yes. I can modify it however I want.
>>93691266>it is far better than the other iron type where the tip slides over the heating element.for heavy tips there is very little difference the cartridge is fractionally faster to respond but takes longer to dump heat because of heater geometry, for skinny tips there is absolutely no difference in response.also it costs about 10x and is more wasteful and harder to recycle.
>>93670310>pinecil v2what changed over v1? is it better than the ts80p already?
>>93675503>Does your iron always work at 450ºC?This guy doesn't know what a potentiometer is
Oh for crying out loud what is it this time
>>93693377i have onethe only times ive needed more is doing super tiny and delicate soldering jobs and a portable one to fix electronics like DIY quadcopters in the field
>>93690551Its cheaper for euros to buy from the official pine shop. It just takes longer + you have to handle customs yourself. EU shop also follows EU laws for consumer protection.
>>93690551You don't have to get the tips from pine. Since the popular TS100 uses them there's a lot of vendors for them
>>93675545>Because the free software philosophy goes far beyond your computer.It doesn't reallyRMS never cared about liberating washing machines.It's neat it's open source but embedded electronics blurs the line between hardware and software and most free software and open-source advocates aren't super keen on open hardware.