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SPLIT GANG edition

>Keyboard recommendation template
https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V

>Where to buy keyboards
https://www.mechmap.tech/themap
https://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com
https://www.mechgroupbuys.com/keyboards
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list
https://mechkeys.me/VENDORS.html

>Split keyboards
https://mechdb.net/keyboards
https://jhelvy.github.io/splitKbCompare/
https://github.com/diimdeep/awesome-split-keyboards

>Alternative layouts
http://xahlee.info/kbd/ergodox_keyboard_layouts.html
https://github.com/manna-harbour/miryoku
https://github.com/Apsu/Canary

Previous thread: >>93545543
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Tex made a new board apparently. The Shura
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>>93641487
I just wish Tex would make their ADA profile caps in PBT.
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nth for dactyls
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>>93641487
Are the Susuwatari keycap worth it? I'd like some vintage looking keycaps that aren't too expensive. Suggestions?
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>>93642150
Look at MT3 dev/tty. Same profile but they're PBT instead of ABS.
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>>93641433
do you guys ever worry about having "compromised" peripherals? It was something I never thought about until recently and I am sure is just me being retarded but after coming to these threads I finally went and bought myself a "fancy" keyboard. I didnt really think too much about who I was buying it from only to find out its a chinese company. The board seems nice and they gave huge discounts when I asked if I could return it so I am going to keep it but I am low key nervous to use it. I know this is paranoid since I am just using it for my gaming PC and its not like I work for government or anything special and even then EVERYTHING is made in China today so whatever state mandated spyware it could potentially have would be on anything I could buy elsewhere anyways. what is your guy's take on this? Am I being overly paranoid?
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Seventh for custom keyboard layout.
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>>93642195
Flash your own firmware on it if you're really that scared that it's phoning home. I think you're being paranoid, though.
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>>93641433
Nice job to the anon that painted this keyboard
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>>93642188
>MT3 dev/tty
It's $85. Does it get any cheaper?
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thoughts on sofle boards? i'm considering one
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>>93642307
There are sometimes BOGO sales, forget if they typically include dev/tty though.
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which brands provides driverless keyboards? keyboards that every key can be configured without software
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>>93641487
WHY WON'T THEY MAKE A FUCKING REGULAR TKL OR 75%
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>>93641487
I LITeRALLY JUST BOUGHT A FUCKING LENOVO WIRELESS CLITMOUSE KEYBOARD WTF
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Q3 Pro when
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Thinking about getting my first split keyboard but from what I've seen they're not very game-friendly with buttons moved around or just taken out of the board alltogether. Especially for games that require a lot of buttons pressed/held at the same time.
For any split owners out there that play vidya, what board do you have and do you spend time rebinding everything or just live with fewer buttons?
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How can I update my keychron board's firmware on linux?

Can I just run QMK toolbox through wine/proton? Or will that not work?

Apparantly you can do it through the command line but I'm scared of that and don't fully understand how to do it
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james donkey a3 for $42, or get something decent.
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>>93643544
There's a layout that a lot of split users default to, called miryoku. Obviously less convoluted if you use a split board with numbers, like lily58 or iris.
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I haven't been happy in a long time. Will expensive plastic pieces fill that troubled void?
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>>93644284
https://www.pikatea.com/products/the-richard-macropad
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>>93644284
Unlikely, though a big solid hunk of metal is quite a satisfying thing to have on your desk.
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>>93644293
oh cool, a rocket shaped keyboard. Kinda funny idea, now that space exploration is back en vogue
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>>93642338
sofle, lily58, and iris are all great for that form-factor, nice alternatives to the ergodox.
>>93642544
anything with QMK is driverless but still requires software to configure, what kind of configuration are you looking for?
>>93643544
I just use a 65% with linears for most games, but on split I'll use a persistent layer that disables all my dual-function keys and provides some other macros
>>93644013
>command line but I'm scared
you can do it anon https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/docs/newbs_flashing.md#flash-your-keyboard-from-the-command-line
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I bought a stupid meme Vortex66..

..and it's the comfiest keyboard and I like it a lot.
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>>93644693
driverless keyboards are the ones that do not need a software to flash the firmware of the macros in the keyboard like razer synapse or whatever. you can just press a key and start recording your macros on the keyboard itself
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>>93644220
That layout could never work for me, I just need more buttons quickly accessible. Double tap or tap hold for different keys is interesting though.
>>93644693
>I just use a 65% with linears for most games, but on split I'll use a persistent layer that disables all my dual-function keys and provides some other macros
The only one I've seen that hits everything I want is the ergodox ez but it's pretty expensive and I don't need caps/switches pre installed. Maybe I just need to live with standard layout for games and split ortho for work.
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>>93644220
>called miryoku
That's Colemak-DHM.
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>>93642103
I want to make a dactyl-manuform with a pair of long, thin, rectangular capacitive touchpads positioned for the index fingers on the inner edge of the keyboard, and a pair of clit mice for either thumb.
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>>93641433
split iris chad reporting for duty
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>>93644693
I really just don't understand what that's asking me to do
how do I find out what my keyboards name is that it's asking for
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>>93645106
>>93644220
based colemah-dh users
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>>93645322
based SA enjoyer
everything just feels like low profile in comparison
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>Thumb cluster keyboard
>No thumb alpha
Explain this shit. At least use the Maltron layout.
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>>93644792
>you can just press a key and start recording your macros on the keyboard itself
QMK supports 'dynamic macros' if you can flash the keyboard just once to set up the record/replay keys, like this? https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/docs/feature_dynamic_macros.md
otherwise some redragon keyboards seem to have OOTB support for what you're looking for
>>93644952
>ergodox ez but it's pretty expensive
you could build an ergodone for a lot cheaper if you don't mind some soldering, or look for a second-hand EZ
>>93645330
you'd use the name of whichever model keychron you have and desired keymap from here https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/keychron
something like
qmk flash -kb keychron/v1 -km ansi
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>>93645248
Good luck anon.
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>>93645417
jk thats not mines

I use DSA so I can use coleamak-dh without issues
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>>93642338
iris and corne have better thumb clustes. sofle bottom row is too long. iris is optimal
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I want to get a cheap aliexpress SA ABS set, shine it with alcohol or polish or something and then never worry about keyshine again. Is that a good plan?

>t. cleaning religiously but still somehow getting shine on even PBT after ~6 months (I type a lot)
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>>93646226
>start worrying about sweat buildup and other crust being very noticeable on shiny keys
just buy those fully transparent caps
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>>93646226
Sounds like you got PBT/ABS mixture, not pure PBT.
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>>93646226
I did that. It's difficult to shine keys well but not impossible. Best do it by hand, really. Also like >>93646440 said, they'll also collect dirt then but if you clean regularly it's not a big problem. SA evenly shined don't feel sticky like e.g. shiny cherry profile at all. They actually feel quite nice to type on.
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>>93645595
I have to install qmk through the command line first right?
Can I not just run the qmk toolbox through proton or wine?
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>>93644013
https://config.qmk.fm
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>Keychron Q12 keyboard $205
>Gazzew U4 silent tactile switches $75
>KBDFans PBTFans White on Black Cherry keycaps $100
>AEBoards Staebies stabilizers $20

What do you think for a $450 (including shipping) keyboard build /mkg/?
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>Keychron Q65 keyboard $205
>Gazzew U4 silent tactile switches $75
>Domikey White on Black Cherry keycaps $125
>AEBoards Staebies stabilizers $20

What do you think for a $475 (including shipping) keyboard build /mkg/?
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Any progressers tonight? I finally got my 100%, feels good. Speed is still coming up, too. I feel a plateau coming up though, might not make it past 60.
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>>93647694
I want to flash updated firmware, not just configure it
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Drunken retard here who finally spilt his last beer on a HyperX full-size with cherry mx browns I got for 79 dollars
That thing lasted my drunk ass five years
What is the closest I can get to that
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>>93648708
Search mechanical keyboard on aliexpress and sort by lowest price.
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just copped my endgame board
id love something this size with a trackball or a nipple
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>>93648469
You don't need qmk to flash firmware, use qmk toolbox or avrdude or another avr programmer.
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>>93648224
>>93648239
is this considered a meme or is that fag just autistic af?
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just got these. usually not a fan of linears or of silent switches but they're super nice
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>>93642150
holy shit I use that same keyboard at work.
comfy af


at home, I have moonlander. it is really comfy for vidya and browsing internet

sadly my attention spam can't handle configuring nordic layout to it
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Alright after weeks of checking the website daily for updates the FR4 plates for the Monsgeek M2 are finally in stock. I am pulling the trigger on a board at the end of the day. About to get a black one. Going ot rock kailh box pinks and navys (KSA space bar is too heavy for box pinks) for things like the spacebar and topping them with KSA silver and gray caps that I recieved recently. Going to try grease free stab lubrication with PTFE tape.

Any objections/tips ?
Is there even anything remotely comparable to these boards at the price point + intl shipping ?
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>>93650734
about to get an M3 as well (hopefully next week)
PTFE/plumber's tape is retarded as the friction will just tear it off
just get a syringe lube kit with a blunt needle and do it with dielectric grease
the major pain with screw-ins is that if they rattle after rebuilding the keyboard then it's a hassle to fix without a syringe
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which redragon have this feature to configure macros 'on-the-fly'? does kumara k552 or k551 have it?
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since when did picrel became so expensive??
>2 years ago it was under €0.50
>now i can't find it below €0.66 anywhere in europe
>not even aliexpress can save me

anyone got something similar?
i'm looking for something with the same tactility, long pole too
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>>93648728
I figured the only thing that would help was even more alcohol so I stripped the key caps and poured a fuckton of 99.7 percent isopropyl on it and let it dry overnight and now it works like a charm again
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>>93653230
damn that's like a whole 5 bucks more, how will you ever recover from this
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>>93648941
qmk toolbox doesn't have a Linux version and I don't know if it'll work through wine
that's my whole problem
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>>93647159
>>93654567
yes you would install QMK through the command line first, why don't you try the toolbox through wine though if that's what you'd rather try, I just have no clue if it will actually work
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>>93655032
I also found this but have no idea if it's reliable at all
https://apayzant.xyz/portfolio/qmk_toolbox/
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which one is better:
- redragon mitra k551
- redragon brahma pro k586
- xbows lite
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>>93648239
you don't know japanese
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>Budget
100€ ideally but i can stretch to around 150€
>Location (continent at least)
EU
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX brown
>Layout
US International QWERTY
>Form factor
Full size ISO (important)
>Backlight
don't care if it's there or not
>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech G610 Orion Brown
also, am i just a retard that doesn't know where to look or the type of keyboard i want is hard to find? it's all tiny 60% minimal ANSI custom zoomer shit now. I'd buy the logitech again but they don't make it anymore.
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>>93646501
It's usually why I get dyesub, to avoid that risk. After all possible tests I can make they're also PBT. I do type all day on them. I always wash my hands and take the keyboard apart once a month to clean, I clean the keycaps in an ultrasonic bath with a shot of dishwashing soap and then rinse them off with water. Nothing really seems to help. I just seem to wear them down. It always also starts with the same group of keys.

>>93646555
Thanks dude, I was actually worried about the stickiness aspect, good to hear that it wouldn't be a problem. I'm not used to type on SA but there's some ultra cheap ABS sets on aliexpress I don't mind ruining if polishing doesn't work out.
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>>93656019
Yeah but you don't need to know Japanese to fuck them. They're so easy, granted I was probably hooking up with older ones that the natives don't like anymore. Still easy lays without having to understand them.

Never had to pay for them. One of them actually bought me drinks all night because she wanted to practice her English
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miryokubros, how do you customize it? I'm looking to add a few new layers to my layout for a few games. is there an eary way to do so? it looks complicated
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https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005005421969777.html

https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005004310179445.html

what do you people think would fit better onto an off-beige, classical keyboard case like the M0110 clone? I tend towards the brown one but green looks fancy.
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>>93658231
brown IMO
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>>93658231
Brown is the safer bet, green could either be really nice or complete shit.
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>>93658231
Green or orange screen could work too.
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>>93663726

>licks, sniffs
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Haven't been in the keyboard stuff for the last couple years. Are there any good new options for very low weight switches, or are choc purps still the way to go?
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This morning I woke up to the dead "A" key of my 16 years old keyboard. I dont know how to process this. I did not slam it or anything last night.
I just ordered 3 more of that old model. Should be enough for the rest of my life.
RIP
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>>93667621
You could try cleaning the membrane to see if it's just dirty contacts causing the issue.
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Reminder chinks are now selling split boards for relatively cheap so you have no excuse not to buy one.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805166171607.html
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is polyfill the best cheap option?
is EVA case foam just a meme?
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>>93668812
PE foam
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>>93670509
ah yes, there's that high quality ABS everyone keeps talking about
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Time for a new one.
Spilled coffee and this one is dying (n/g keys barely working, other keys stick even after cleaning the switches.

>Budget: up to 100 EUR, preferably as low as possible, while still good enough
>Location (continent at least): Balkans
>Preferred switch type: Browns (or somethinng quiet)
>Layout: Qwerty
>Form factor: Full Sized, TKL are good too
>Backlight: Single color, preferably white
>Previous/current keyboards: Logitech G413, also had a Ducky One, but that died too quickly
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>>93656241
Almost the same kek
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>>93656241
Asked in a bunch of different places.
I went with this:
https://keychron.de/products/keychron-c2-pro-qmk-via-wired-mechanical-keyboard

Seems like it'll fit your criteria also.
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>>93670696
Keychron V series? Like literally 95 out of 100 asks in this and all the other threads?
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let's face it
keychron makes the best prebuilts out there
you only need to do a little fine tuning on the stabs and maybe replace the switches and you're basically on par with most customs out there
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>>93672042
I barely even lurk nowadays, so I'm not exactly up to date with hardware and shit.
V series were a little more expensive for me, but the C2 Pro has all I'd ever need desu.
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>buy PBT keycaps to replace my worn ABS ones
>they become slick and shiny in two months, much worse than my ABS ones did in ten years
nice fucking meme guys.
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My very first budget custom keyboard
Everything is from aliexpress.


Switches : ktt kang white
Keycaps : jelly something idk
Keyboard : monsgeek akko mg75w


I like this 75% layout and the glass-like textured keycaps
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>>93672753
>buy cheapest PBT caps from china
>surprised when its not PBT
I'm still waiting for my set of chinkshit to arrive
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>>93674772
It was the Razer ones in black. Which companies make true PBT keycaps then? Tai Hao?
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>>93673886
I do kinda like those ice cube caps, they're neat. I have a similar set in OEM profile.
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>>93674985
idk, I suppose those that go over 100$ per set should be real, but I won't be the shmuck who pays keyboard prices for keycaps
the ones I have on the way were like 25€, claim to be PBT, but I honestly haven't seen much shine on the ABS caps I've used
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>>93673886
Dye sub is always PBT. Then the quality can still vary between manufacturers.
Double shot keycaps are more often than not PBT/ABS mix. The quality of the plastic can vary a lot and some are just as good as 100% PBT. The shinethrough PBT sets will probably contain a lot more ABS than regular sets because they're difficult to pull off with PBT. So i'm assuming those razer caps of yours are bottom of the barrel when it comes to PBT.
>>93673886
Nice caps. I would never buy a board with no QMK support personally but there are worse choices.
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>Double shot keycaps are more often than not PBT/ABS mix
How do you know? I've seen then described as PBT blend, but never a more detailed description. PBT can be blended with a number of other polymers, with polycarbonate and PET being common for ex.
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Split gang domination.
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>buy a fancy $200 keychron keyboard cuz you guys tell me to
>F10, left alt, and right arrow are not working

WTF i trusted you
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>>93677218
file a complaint to customer service and get a replacement
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>>93678461
never mind, my switches just had bent metal bits (whatever they are called)
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Just got paid for this month. Someone recommend me a <$700ish keyboard that won't depreciate in price.
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>>93679144
be honest you only wanted to show off your slightly above average tech worker paycheck.

no fancy keyboard is ever gonna bring you happiness. but if you have certain actual needs that can be concretely addressed then use the template in the OP
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>>93679144
Half the value evaporates when you take the keyboard off the lot.
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>>93679178
You're right, but I'm actually a nurse.
Don't care about layout or anything, only consideration is a keyboard that won't be $100 in the next few years, so something that was limited quantity.
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>>93642307
WoB is $50 right now
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>>93679255
Don't buy a keyboard because you think it'll be an investment. Get one because you actually want to use it.
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>>93679144
a new model f, or an old model f really.
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>>93641433
Just got a lily58 pro kit, first time soldering and was too excited to do it carefully so I made two mistakes on one of the PCBs and ended up janking two of the microcontroller pins, I have ordered new pins, waiting for them to arrive, I just hope I habemt broken the PCB.

Anyone know any websites in Europe where I can buy parts separately like one lily58 PCB? BC I'd really hate to have to buy the whole kit again
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>>93679370
PCB sites like JLCPCB just require the gerber file and they'll give a quote which is dirt cheap. Reminder though there's usually a minimum order amount like 3, so you'll be left with extras. This means there's someone out there that probably has extra lily58 pcbs, and you can ask relevant discord/reddit subs if they have.
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I used to have a lots of keyboards, but model f (at) was the best.
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What do you think about this one?
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Would I notice a difference going from an old mechanical with mx blues to the Q3 with Gatreon 2.0 browns or whatever they're called? The Q3 looks real sexy but I won't consoom if the mechanical keyboard upgrade experience is a snake oil pitch with no real difference.
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>>93680324
If i wasnt a poorfag i'd have one. Managed to get an old boldmodded model m at least.
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>>93680796
I only tried Cherry Browns and they were like linear switches with a grain of sand in them, Gateron Brown is said to be better though.
Can only recommend Zilents v2 62g for a similar switch, those are nice.
Or topre if you want the best.
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>>93641433
Rotate the left half 90 degrees clockwise, the right half 90 degrees counterclockwise, then bring them together.
What does it look like?
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Need a palm rest for my M1. Any recs?
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>>93681200
https://www.amazon.com/Ergonomic-Keyboard-Baguette/dp/B08PFJ2HPX/
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>>93681262
Motherfucker
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>>93680930
I got mine from someone unloading old stuff on some local sale site. Model M is very good until you get F though.
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>>93681200
You should be floating your wrists while typing. If you're actually going to be using it to rest your wrists on (aka not typing) then just get whatever.
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>>93680521
Makes me glad I don't do hand-wiring anymore.
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>>93681881
And where do I get whatever, my dude
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>>93682210
I don't use wrist rests, figure it out yourself.
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>>93682231
Fair enough
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>>93641487
Still looks like ugly 1970s shit
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>>93682274
I have hyperx wrist rest with cooling gel or some shit like that and I like it, it's a lot better than those cheapest foam rectangles, has nice fabric around it and decent stitching rather that being just glued
personally I don't get those wood slabs for half the cost of a keyboard, seems like a complete waste of money
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>>93641433
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>>93641433

So I have two keyboards, a Keychron K8 pro which has oil kings and a Mojo84 which has ink v2. Ive noticed my typing speed has slowed down with the mojo because of key placements, nothing big since im getting used to it, still over 100 wpm. But if I were to buy another keyboard, what should that be? I want something nice that has proper layout, does not have to be complete, can be barebones, willing to spend $200 for the kit and I have a bunch of switches and keycaps already, what would you get ?

was looking at this pcb, https://divinikey.com/collections/new-arrivals/products/geon-apolloh-hotswap-pcb what would it go to though?
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>>93641433
Anyone else got a keyboard that uses this GK6XPlus software?
I have an issue where every time I turn my PC on, even though that software runs at startup, I have to re-open it for RGB and programmed knob controls to function.
With my old Ducky board (and every other bit of RGB control software I've used), I just set the custom functions I wanted and then uninstalled the software and it kept my settings forever.

Anyone else having/had the same issue?
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>>93642219
>left hand 43.5%
>right hand 44.6%

Hitting spacebar with your cock is am alpha play
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>>93684907
I used https://github.com/pixeltris/GK6X for my old gk64. No issues with anything after programming, not sure if it works with knobs etc.
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>>93641433
is there a 75%/TKL with a 2u space bar and programmable keys right next to it similar to Nip layouts but you can map the what hirigana keys to be?
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A kit like this worth it, or can it be had for cheaper?
https://mechboards.co.uk/products/ferris-sweep-kit
I come to 78gbp after adding the other necessary stuff, shipping not included.
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Finally tried the Moon v2 switches and it's really good.
I'm not gonna bother lubbing or filming switches ever again.
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>>93681013
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>>93684943
It doesn't count thumbs for hand bias, E is the remaining 12%.
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did anyone use macro keys for gaming?
looking back at it, it just looks like a scam to fool 13 year olds into buying overpriced keyboards
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>>93685692
Thanks, I'll give it a go
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>>93685692
This looks so much less shit than the official release
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>300 dollars
>only comes with varmilo meme switches
this game is literally scamming their audience with this shit keyboard

im gonna buy the clones of the keycaps instead of this piece of shit
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>>93690272
imho, if you fall for this shit because of the keycaps, you deserve to be scammed
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>>93691095
i mean im all for supporting the game i play but god damn, $300 for a mid tier keyboard is something else
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I bought the akko X mongseek 16 switch tester pack and lubed it with kryotox 205g0 or whatever it's called. Installed some pbt caps on it and tested it out and felt no difference. What the fuck man. What's the hype on switches?
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>>93687712
Based. Now it's only missing a golden line on one of the yellow keys on the left.
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1) Budget
>250

2) Location
>US

3) Preferred switch type
>silent

4) Layout
>any, i need to control Z and reach keys with left hand

5) Form factor
>idk same size as current kb

6) Backlight
>enough to use in the dark

7) Previous/current keyboard
>aukey km g-9
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>>93660562
is this the corne? and got a build guide?
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>>93695875
also needs to be wireless
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>>93695897
not mine but that's the draculad https://github.com/MangoIV/dracuLad/blob/master/buildguide.md
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>>93695875
>>93695900
the form factor of your G9 is 80% / TKL, you could get a keychron k8 pro for ~$100 with plenty leftover for a set of silent switches. I really like haimu whispers for tactiles, folks seem to like haimu heartbeats for linears, or there's durock shrimp/dolphin and boba u4/bobagum
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>>93697742
is this urs, also why u no make wireless
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>>93698598
not mine but you could make it wireless https://github.com/GEIGEIGEIST/KLOR/blob/main/docs/buildguide_acrylic_ble.md
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>>93680521
That looks really cool. I wouldn't be able to figure out how to use it but magnificent looking and I'm sure it's satisfying to master
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>>93695759
That looks cool but I don't think my hand could realistically make that shape in order to type on it.
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>>93648737
Or a gyro mouse. Works well enough on Joycons.
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what are yours opinions about optical switches?
based or cringe.
i think they are based because they last longer
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>>93700765
A shitty compromise between hall effect and contact based. Now instead of worring about the switch wearing out (not a concern in any realistic timeframe for MX switches especially if you have an hotswap keyboard and dustproof swiitches) You have to worry about a much more complex PCB that can fail at multiple points. It's also more expensive for not much benefit. Hall effect has the same issues but has the ability to be configured to be analog so it wins.
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>>93642270
thanks, next I will be putting jades into a corsair k95 I got for $15 because its missing keycaps. I will be putting on chocolate thick abs caps
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>>93645106
Miryoku is the layers. There's a lot more than Colemak in the image.
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>>93644792
>driverless keyboards are the ones that do not need a software to flash the firmware of the macros in the keyboard like razer synapse or whatever.
That's a dumb term, literally driverless should mean that you do not need software running while using the keyboard.
Flashing software is not a "driver".
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>>93680521
link?
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Been out of the loop for a couple of years, what's the latest and greatest in split ergo keyboards with integrated mouse functionality? Anything with trackpoints/nipples yet? If not, any good trackballs or something?
Last I remember there were some one-off projects that were pretty flaky and not necessarily actually good
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>>93703842
People have put trackballs in their dactyls, couldn't tell you how well it works though.
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>>93703873
Yeah but like spoonfeed me pls
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>>93703961
Just search "dactyl with trackball" m8. I use a separate mouse myself so I don't know the details.
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>>93700765
while their gayming mileage may vary from person to person
generally speaking they are very niche because you're stuck with just that type of switch and they dont have alot of variants unlike contact based switches who have a shit ton of variants
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>>93703737
i use this term after xah lee
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This is the endgime keybourd, no guestion ebout it. You cun totolly menege without oll the letter keys, its elegent und seves so much desk spece >.<
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>>93704594
Xah is a chink who can't talk English. Installing dfu-programmer does not mean your keyboard isn't "driverless", is somehow locked down, proprietary, or inconvenient to use. Especially since as a rule anything that can be flashed using DFU is going to be way, way more open and editable than anything which just has a proprietary crippled live macro recording feature and no support for reflashing your own preferred firmware.
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>>93704677
kek stfu
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>>93704793
>Xah is a chink who can't talk English
he's not the only one
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>Budget
EUR 0-400
>Location (continent at least)
Portugal - Europe
>Preferred switch type
Brown or blue. Anything clicky
>Layout
Whatever
>Form factor
Whatever as long as it's split
>Backlight
Whatever
>Previous/current keyboards
Chink 40% keyboard from aliexpress.
looks aside, is the kinesis advantage 2 the best option out there?
I code more than 12 hours a day and i need the best option possible for me.
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>>93708128
I could make you a dactyl with zeal clickies for less than a kinesis. Shipping from milkbagland would be kinda expensive though.
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I'm looking for a keyboard to use on the go with my laptop.
I use my laptop to write a lot and the keyboards you can get on laptops simply suck ass.
I'm not too fussy about the switches as long as it's mechanical and decent.
For my desktop I have a logitech G613 which i use on the couch / bed a lot (I have monitors all over the place hooked up to my PC) and it's totally fine for me for typing a lot. It doesn't handle being dropped well at all, i had to replace multiple switches already.
80% without numpad to save some size/weight, i dont need numpad.
Must be wireless, don't care if it's a small dongle or bluetooth. Large dongle is no-go.
I need a large-ish palm rest that is either permanently attached to the keyboard (ideal) or that i can attach myself permanently (not afraid to just glue it).
If there is no palm rest, i would consider to like 3d print one and mount it myself but meh.
Not afraid of DIY I'm comfortable soldering etc. If there is a cool project out there that fits happy to go that route.
Shouldn't be super expensive and needs to be available in europe.
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>>93645343
Well poisoners. There is almost nothing to gain from colemak, and the fragmentation means we will never get official support like dvorak in windows
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>>93714547
why does it need support when its built into your keyboard at the firmware level?
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Just got my Keychron Q1 pro with Red.
It's alright. Not a fan of via, it's a bit hard to get used to if you don't use a qwerty layout imo.
I used to have a Filco with MX Blues, I used to slam my fat fingers on the keys and now the Gateron Reds feel way too light and I make a shitton of mistakes.
Will I eventually get used to it or should I try different switches that require more force?
I didn't get Blues because on my previous keyboard, the "click" never perfectly matched with the actually input and it was fucking annoying.
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>>93715537
You could switch the springs to something heavier, or try Kailh box burnt orange.
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>>93715537
Try gat yellows, their weight being in between red & black is what makes them pretty popular.
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is the platform for moonlander worth it?
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Is there a 100% PCB that has good customizability? I've never managed to find a ready-made mechanical keyboard with the layout I want, and I don't think I've really even seen a PCB for it either.
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>>93641433
Has anyone made a mechanical replica of the natural ergonomic line of keyboards shit?

>inb4 muh patents

The design its over 25yo, patents are gone
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how could I use this on windows?
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Any non-chink made keyboard companies out there? I wanna support autarky, but also mainly because I wish MacArthur had done a nuclear holocaust on the chinks back in the 50s
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>>93721800
you probably won't find many 100% PCBs on their own, anything with QMK support should suit you well in terms of customizability though
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>>93726456
Nah, I have a goal in terms of key layout and there's basically nothing on the market for it. A PCB is my only option for a mechanical.
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>>93721800
If it doesn't exist then it's time to learn PCB design. It's not as daunting as it seems and there are lots of guides out there (specifically for keyboards too). ai03's guide is a good place to start.
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I’m looking for a mid tier full keyboard that doesn’t have a clicky-clacky sound.I last bought a keyboard 17 years ago… are all mechanical keyboards clicky sounding?

Budget: ideally around $50-$70. Rgb if possible.
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>>93726878
Keychron C2 pro, comes with reds (linear) or browns (tactile) which aren't silent but definitely quieter than the 'clicky' blues you might be used to
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>>93704677
I need more
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>>93726878
>are all mechanical keyboards clicky sounding?
No, some are even quieter than a regular rubber dome board.
https://youtu.be/IFXW9k2Jlhg
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will getting a smaller keyboard improve my ergonomics and gaming performance if I'm shorter than average
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>>93731525
No.
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>>93726878
the no name ones or the Gaymin ones are the clicky clacky

you can make budget boards sound better cuz mods exist
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>Mkultra goes silent after saying his site is shutting down on april 1 reddit post
>customers going insane thinking their gmk nord isn't going to arrive
>comes back literally few days ago to say things are starting to ship
>customer so relieved they're begging to buy him a drink for doing the bare minimum of a storefront
So damn embarrassing.
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>>93724749
Yes. Unicomp makes most of their keyboard parts in America. Everything you can buy elsewhere will be chink. Very few exceptions. It's a good keyboard but lacks QMK which is a deal breaker for me. If you don't care about that their new model Ms are fine keyboards and will not need a replacement for at least a couple decades.
>>93731971
I will never pay to enter group buys. No exceptions.
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>>93643544
I have a lily58 with a pretty standard qwerty layout, I mostly play fps game and haven't needed to rebind anything major (only ` since I have it behind a layer and y since it's on the right half)
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>>93695900
>>93696136
what kind of keycaps are these
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>>93733083
Keychron KSA. The Macros keys on the left are completely non standard and are pretty much not replaceable they don't use MX switches either.
You can buy a set on keychron's website.
I have a set and while it's not perfect it's cheap and the profile is very nice.
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Why won't Drop ship to Brazil god dammit
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>>93733703
>Brazil
My condolences.
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Thoughts on the quality of akko keycaps? Or should I just buy gmk clones from china?
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>>93733703
why would anyone ship to brazil
why would anyone live in brazil
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>keycaps and switches are fucking around somewhere around my town
>god willing I'll have them in my hands today
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First time getting a MK
1) Budget
180-200 AUD
2) Location
Australia
3) Preferred switch type
Clacky
4) Layout
ANSI
5) Form factor
TKL preferred, full size also okay
6) Backlight
White shine though preferred but not necessary
7) Previous/current keyboard
way old G15
8) Extras
Bluetooth, biege/grey
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>>93738885
godspeed
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split hypno thread
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>>93642268
How would you find out if he's not?
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>>93743383
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>>93642150
hide the pain harry
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>>93738885
>>93743160
the shine through looks better in photo than irl imo, maybe it will be a bit better at night, but I like the XVX profile, wasn't a huge fan of the stock keychrons OSA, maybe they were too high for my taste
for switches I got akkos jelly purples but only 45 as this was the first time buying switches, were enough for the main part of the kb
a bit stiffer/need more force than keychron browns, less pingy sound maybe, idk hard to compare as I've only ever tried MX browns and keychron browns b4 and now I only have the keychrons to compare the jellys to
the keycaps cost me 22 euros with shipping
https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005004537134105.html
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I just got gateron blues and they're feel lighter and less tactile than my cheapo chinese browns. aren't blues suppose to feel kinda heavy??? i feel like im gonna make a ton of mistakes with these.
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I can't believe I got memed into getting this keyboard. This shit is worse than my thailand keyboard that was $40. like wtf bro. yall some memers getting gaslight into buying normal shit for high markup. this hobby is dumb af and im upset i got duped by gaymer marketing and hipyotech videos.

honestly what is the appeal of this for you? im not getting it. i could of just bought new vans instead.
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>>93749099
>doesn't actually specify what board he got
Ok
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>>93749149
sorry keychron k8. yeah its not high end but after this there's no way in hell im spending $300 on a keyboard unless it's got like a automated fleshlight in it.
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This is my response: a keyboard is an input device to a modern workstation.
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I've got about a $150 budget. Is Nuphy Air still the best low-profile mechanical keyboard? Yes I know low-profile is a meme but I already have several full size.
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>>93749099
K8 is an old ass meme and was only good back when keychron was the only half decent chink shit option. You can only blame yourself for not doing the research and trying to penny pinch. If you wanted premium quality why did you buy from the second cheapest line from a chink manufacturer ? I would never recommend a K8 in this day and age. Hell I would not even recommend the pro version. If you can't set aside at least 100$ for something good then you deserve the dogshit quality. Also:
>Vans
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>>93750985
Almost all modern low profile keyboards are built the same way sound the same, use the same switches (except nuphy) and use very similar keycaps. I have a Keychron K3 Pro lowprofile but only because it's one of the few ISO offerings (if not the only low profile ISO). I had no issues with it but I think it looks like ass and is too expensive compared to the competition and that would be the major differentiating factor between these boards anyway.
So yeah either nuphy air or Redragon TL84. Simliar boards but the cheaper redragon is not time tested yet.
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>>93641433
are there any split keyboards that have a trackpoint?
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>>93751000
like i implied to the other guy, what would even be the point? it seems like everything aside from the switches themselves are fairly minor yet are priced as if they are major factors. i dont care about thock, i care about feel. these switches feel mid and the keyboard itself feels worse then my thai one. those are my complaints.
>Vans
what about them? they're light, flat, and not ugly. they're great.
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>>93733703
because it's a shithole
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Silver Q3 Pro restock when, reee
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Was thinking about getting an aluminum frame keyboard but I read scratching can be a problem vs. plastic. Anyone have any issues with this?
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>>93753230
Depends on the quality of the finish, but good anodizing is pretty damn resilient. Anything that leaves a mark on that would leave a gouge on plastic too.
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>>93753230
Scratching on what? Just put it on a desk mat.
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is there anything like the kinesis advantage 360 with a aluminum chassis and hotswap?
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>>93756220
No. There are some dactyls that people have made hotswap but an alu chassis with curved columns like that would be eye wateringly expensive.
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is hotswappable keyboard actually hot swappable or did they just call it that because you don't need to solder?
as in can the keyboard be plugged in when you're putting in/taking out switches
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do they make any of those split keyboards with an analog stick
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>>93757742
I've pulled switches out of my keyboard while it was plugged in and its PCB wasn't even hotswap from the factory.
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>>93653230
Honestly the tescee purple pandas are pretty good
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got a new ducky one 3 four months ago and it still works perfect except the green in a few RGB LEDS has stopped working. Is it even worth sending it for RMA and waiting a month for them to fix like 6 lights, my only replacement board has cherry blacks and I never want to go back to that
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>>93758894
>pay out the ass for stupid chinkshit
>it breaks instantly
>is it even worth to RMA
no, just throw another 200 down the drain and buy something more stupid
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>>93759074
unfortunately I live in a small country and the only two vendors doing this keyboard layout with cherry red switches were ducky and mountain, ducky seemed like the better option from the two
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>>93719112
holy fuck that is beautiful, send build guide
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its good to see all my fellow split /g/entlemen
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>>93655032
do I have to run both
python3 -m pip install --user qmk

and
sudo pacman -S qmk

listed here?
https://docs.qmk.fm/#/newbs_getting_started
I don't fully understand what I'm doing
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qk80 soon
lubed shrimp silents
ramenstop caps
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Monsgeek M3 sucks
DO NOT REDEEEM
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/g/ newfag here, is this the place to ask for keyboard recommendations? my apex 7 went -ack!
>gaming keyboard lmao
yeah i know
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>>93759412
Probably just run the pacman command
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Is there a respectable mech that is wireless, but also can use the same dongle for a respectable wireless mouse?
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>>93760436
fuck off you nigger tranny, read the OP b4 posting
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>>93760548
i read it i just like talking to people and not consulting a spreadsheet :(
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if you ask for keyboard recommendations without being specific, you're gonna have a hard time
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>>93760155
What's wrong with yours ?
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>>93760667
surely there’s a consensus on the BEST mech keyboard? but fine
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>>93760670
>no extra screws
>no allen wrench nor a phillips screwdriver
>the stabs are are fucking plate mount
>no pads for the stabs as well
>no included tape mod
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>>93760731
No, there really isn't.
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>>93760436
>1. 200$+
>2. British English
>3. Brown
>4. idk
>5. 100%
>6. No preference
thanks in advance ni/g/gers
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>>93760733
forgot to mention that there's now pads for forcebreak either

>>93760731
"Best" mech keyboard is subjective
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>>93760733
>He bought the china version
If you want the international version you have to buy from the official place. China version is not even QMK
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>>93761130
well, buying from aliex is always chink gacha
they didnt even state if it's the chink version lmao

well it still works tho, barely need to change any keys on mine anyways
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>>93761240
Aside from the plate mount stabs and QMK you can remedy most issues with the board. I mean surely you got tape and bandaids laying around.
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>>93761261
i do and it sounds and feels okay for the most part
but if this were bought by a noob in the hobby thinking this would be his gateway into building and modding, that person is gonna have a hard time
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What does /g/ think about the Montech Mkey, Gateron Pro 2.0 prelubed out of the box, hotswap 5 pin PCB, TKL and full size with knob and mini 60% coming later, gasket mount dual silicone dampening, PBT dye sub and MDA profile keycaps.

Basically thocks out of the box for $99 on the full size and $89 for the TKL, looks pretty good for a starter keyboard and has all the stuff you'd want already pre-done.
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>>93760731
just buy another apex or whatever gamer trash you had before
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>>93761667
Lubed gat yellows and gasket mount with PBT caps for a hunnid bux? A knob too ? Wish I got that as my first board instead of the dogshit RK84 you fuckers recommended me back then.
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>>93761667
no QMK doe
looks good otherwise
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Thoughts on Royal Kludge? My friend has a design he likes but I don't know shit about that brand
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>>93762114
Dogshit. Avoid.
t. RK84 owner
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>>93761667
The mini version coming out later will also be wireless.
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Thoughts on mountain?
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im the monsgeek m3 anon
any idea how to remove the spring ping from Boba U4Ts?
unlubed btw
soundtest: https://files.catbox.moe/j4a128.wav


>>93762114
they absolutely need to be modded since stock RKs are dogshit
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what's a good starter mechanical keyboard, one that doesn't costs a gorillion
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>>93762248
You don't. Opening bobas will fuck them up. Also I can't hear any ping from your recording
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>>93762429
keychron v series
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>>93762603
also a good endgame if you don't want to go insane
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>>93761667
Should hav named it MonKey



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