>>92176553
DO NOT BUY AMD COMPONENTS
DO NOT BUY AMD COMPONENTS
DO NOT BUY AMD COMPONENTS

>>92176553
Amd's cuck cores will ve just as bad as intel's cuck cores
and i will not buy any cpu with cuck cores no matter if theyre amd or intel
fuck amd and fuck intel give me real cores

>>92176571
explain to me about what is cuck core

R8 and H8 build
Complete with all my recent upgrades

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7LssTn

>>92176587
That case is a piece of shit. I seriously don't know why anyone buys bottom "basement" pcs anymore. just completely cucks gpu airflow for no reason.

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yay or nay? any experiences?

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>>92176571
Just get sapphire rapids bro

>>92176602
Airflow is p good, brute forced but not bad
Gamers nexus or whichever techfags did a big case/temps meta review it did p solid

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I had a friend help build this for me, as I have bad luck with computer parts the last time I changed something out. I'm a little worried about the "tight" look of the power adapter cable, but it seems fine and is quite.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XG84zf

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I’m with the anon from the end of last thread that the idea of price to performance first is pretty lame.
It takes a lot of the creativity out of building your own pc, and while it stems from a good concept
>DIY instead of prebuilt to save money and get a better system for your money
Taking it to the extreme that the only factor that matters is your framerate in relation to money spent is ridiculous. There are so many other things to factor in, thermals, acoustics, platform longevity or lack thereof depending on need, aesthetics, feature specific needs, etc

Take into consideration what you want to get out of a diy pc beyond just how the games will run. If you want dead silent you pay more for dead silent. If you want flash and flair you spend more for flash and flair. If you have some situational need where you need moar coars and no gpu performance then have fun with your 7950X and GT210, that’s all you.

Pic unrelated, my favorite gpu.

>>92176585
BIG.little small ARM core
look up intel efficiency cores

is the rtx 4080 my only option if i want maximum performance for 300w tdp or under?

>>92176624
unironically if server cpus are the only ones left ill unironically start building a xeon/epyc/threadripper build instead
fuck this shit

>>92176648
Overkill on the psu and fans. Everything else is fine. Just make sure the 12VHPWR cable is fully recessed. It doesn't give a good audible click unfortunately. Shouldn't be an issue though, the 3070 doesn't use that much power.

>>92176691
I'd sooner get a 7900 xt because the 4080s memory will be an issue soon.

>>92176654
What made the anon sound dumb is he just flat out says 'price per frames is retarded'

It's literally one graph to help inform buyers

Just a dumb call out from him

>>92176587
>CPU
Whatever.
>Cooler
Waste of money many better and cheaper options. FOTM Peerless Assasin is one of them.
>mobo
I don't see you using anything that warrants getting X570, so waste of money.
>Ram
Those heatspreaders are so bad they act more like thermal isolators, 16-19-19-39 isn't any better than 18-20-20-40 in real world. Still doesn't matter much.
>Storage
Don't care
>GPU
Only real GPU worth buying, this is sad.
>Case
Oven
>PSU
Won't cause housefire
>OS
What are you even doing?

Overall you could get Zen4 with 7800X3D for the same price if you didn't pay for winblows and this shit cooler.
2/10

wondering if this would even fit https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yGjLGL

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>>92176624
Jesus Christ
Even the stock cpu peaks at 450 watts.

>>92176734
Eh, people recommended the fan and it was only $70ish after tax. Plus the PSU was $150 while the $850w was $120, so it was a small extra for the extra power.

>>92176654
Great speech faggot. If someone has specific goals we adjust builds with that in mind.

>>92176706
It's what I'm doing next build.
Consumer desktop sockets have a single merit and that is clock speeds.

>>92176778
TWO THOUSAND FUCKING WATTS?
FOR A CPU?

>>92176778
>ln2
>stock
Just how retarded are you?
legit question

>>92176769
It’s an upgrade from 3700x/2080S build
No sense going zen4 when I got access to the based 5800x3d

>>92176789
Sure just trying to inform you. You could also get a higher efficiency psu instead of a higher wattage. For fans everyone has stepped up recently.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JmfnTW/thermalright-tl-c12c-6617-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-tl-c12c-x3-d6

>>92176826
I posted the clipping from an article where it hits 1881 watts under ln2 at 5.5ghz
And then also included the line
>even the stock cpu peaks at 450w
>stock cpu
Fucking read you turbo nigger

>>92176826
You want power efficiency and you're looking at Intel HEDT?

>>92176857
That changes things. Still why would you even consider paying for windows? Are you writing this of taxes or some shit?

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AMD would rather sell PS5s than X3Ds and XTXs.

I have a 550w thermaltake smart bronze psu running a 3600 and RX 6600.
Prices look pretty good rn, so I would like to buy a 5600 and a 6700 xt. Would my 550w power supply be OK? I see the 6700xt recommends 650w

>>92176911
Yes. It's said to be 650 watt in case of the cpu needing more power

>>92176901
What the hell are they even playing on the PS5?

>>92176894
I just built my system out on pcpartpicker because my buddy asked about my system
Just posting here for feedback, not buying anything it’s all sitting on my desk

>>92176866
>And then also included the line
>>even the stock cpu peaks at 450w
i mean considering thats for 56 p-cores that makes the 250w pl2 on a 13900k look really shitty

>>92176901
hundreds of millions of people around the world buy consoles
how many people buy pc components? maybe at most a few million, how many buy amd specifically x3d's and high end xtx? tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands maybe

>>92176911
That's such a minor upgrade I wouldn't bother. You can get a used cpu off ebay for am4 and current gen midtier gpus should be releasing in a month or so.

>>92176799
The fuck you do
Any time someone comes into any, and I mean literally any pc community, and has some goal in mind that isn’t the price to performance king of the week, two billion mega virgins descend upon them with “are you retarded? buy X instead, Y is a waste of money”
It’s one thing to inform others like
>”if you’re trying to save money you can do XYZ instead”
but it’s never presented that way, it’s always immediate ignorance of the original build concept, substituting it for whatever poorfags dream of instead

Example, It brings me actual enjoyment, almost a sexual satisfaction, when people get upset that I bought an Arc A770
I bought it because it’s a cool thing that amuses me, the price of it was never a concern, its software or overall performance in comparison to its competition never crossed my mind. And to know there’s people out there that need to give a fuck about 5fps or $20, makes me certain I’m better than them.

>>92176587
The cooler and mobo are overkill
Case is like whatever. I'm a fractal design fanboy however so take that as you wish
Sorta same for the PSU, won't set your house on fire and you'll have enough headroom

>>92176911
ot says it reccomend 550 watts on techpowerup

>>92176911
You won't see much difference between 3600 and 5600 with this GPU.
There are games where you could get 20% performance gain but overall you will be GPU bound anyway.
As for PSU, 6700XT draws around 220W but it can peak above 300W for brief moments. But even with that in mind 550W will be enough if your PSU isn't trash.
t. fag who upgraded from 3600 to 5600

>>92176911
this is just a waste of money for a 5% "upgrade"

>>92176936
Mea culpa, Anon.
Enjoy your PC.

>>92176934
blu rays

>>92176942
Yes, kinda similar to the Quadro vs GeForce thing
The A2000 being somewhere between the 3050 and 3060 but at only 70 watts

Shows what the consumers get versus the real shit, ever time with the high end xeons
And then we used to get the weird consumer xeons which defeated the entire point but those haven’t been a thing in a while

>>92177065
>And then we used to get the weird consumer xeons
I miss my 1245v3

>>92176956
Well, the 3600 I currently have will sell for probably $75 in ebay. Microcenter has the 5600 for $129. $129-75= $54. Sure it isn't a huge upgrade, but I don't mind paying $54.
As for the gpu. That actually will be a big upgrade for me. I have a 1440p monitor, and I am sick of having to cope. The 6600 will probably sell for $150. I can get the 6700xt for $369. So $369-150=$219. Not bad at all for a 40% upgrade.
Its not the end of the world for me to spend ~$260 for the upgrade that this will be.
Just nervous about my power supply.

>>92176964
>when people get upset that I bought an Arc A770
>I bought it because it’s a cool thing that amuses me, the price of it was never a concern,
Should be the attitude of anyone really.

Everything would be better if peeps just admitted they bought something because they enjoy having it rather than trying to find some excuse on why they "need" something.

It's extra amusing to see people defend brands or products that lack X/Y feature by saying it's "not needed"

Ive been PSPleb my whole life and I refuse to get a PS5. Are these good specs for a starter PC I found for 1k?
1920x threadripper
RTX 2060
64GB of ram
256 gb Nvme ssd
500 gb SSD
75hz monitor
I dont game much anymore but itd be nice to have something that can do more. Thanks

>>92177041
I very much do
Used to game on a T430 thinkpad and shitty mouse when I was a student, so it’s a nice treat to be able to push high res high fps on ultra settings

>>92176789
your tig is fine don't listen to that other guy.

>>92176862
True, I'm just use to the 1000w since my 10 year old PC has used 1000w and I have had zero issues with it. I do appriciate the feedback, as I forgot there was a step above Gold rated. Those fans also look good, so I might swap them out.

>>92177135
Just be aware this is a dark path, you won't be able to enjoy playing at potato settings anymore. Every drop in framerate will get noticed.
You will look at people who play on laptops and think of them less. You were warned /s

>>92177132
looks good if you are doing some type of code compiling/productivity stuff
altough that tr is a few gens old it should still do alrighr and the ram definitely helps.
you can build a pc with better single core performance and better gpu for 1k tho

>>92177132
no point buying 1st gen threadripper at all

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>>92176648
Do you have a question?

>>92177011
I don't know if you would consider this "trash" or not but this is it:
>https://www.thermaltakeusa.com/smart-bm2-550w-tt-premium-edition.html

And I hear you with the upgrade from 3600 to 5600, but I use my cpu for things other than just gaming. Everything I see shows it as a 15% boost and at the price it seems good to me.

>>92177034
I don't think you realize the difference between a 6600 and a 6700xt

>>92177065
>but those haven’t been a thing in a while
They got replaced by Core
Your Core series CPU becomes a quasi-Xeon when you place it in a W680 motherboard.
You don't gain much except ECC support but really that was all you gained when you bought those desktop socket Xeons.
I guess you also get some additional board level features like IPMI since that only really exists on W680 boards

>>92177274
Just if the adapter looked bad a bit twisted like that, but I adjusted it a bit to have it be more straightened.

Tempted to buy the 4090 but it’s hard to justify just for gayming. Any other neat shit I can use it’s power for?

>>92177359
blender
stable diffusion
making games

>>92177371
Those all sound like they take effort and skill

>>92177416
Although rtx remix does sound neat, not sure what sort of skill tree you need to use that

>>92177275
5600 pulls even less power than 3600, a few watts but still.
If you hit jackpot on silicon lottery you can expect 4.8GHz not all core.
This alone is around 15% performance boost from 4.2GHz 3600 in gaymes, you will get IPC improvements on top, but 4.7GHz is more realistic. I don't know what other workloads you have for your CPU.
PSU should not blow up.

>>92177416
its easy to learn
open up your mind and go in with enthusiasm

>>92177416
stable diffusion is just adding more words to the prompt until you don't get 7 fingers

>>92177328
Loks fine

>>92177484
Kek I actually have been looking at that, I do some wildlife/macro photography and think it’d be cool to train a model to create new work in my style

>>92176553
Is there any chance for hardware to finally lower in price this summer? or are the banks falling just going to make everything even more expensive? but no cause nobody will be able to pay for PCs anymore.

>>92177456
OK thanks. Ngl I am now tempted to buy a psu as well tho now

>>92177537
summer? sure

>>92177537
How poor are you

>>92177132
Decent BUT. The GPU and CPU are underpowered for what you pay. This system would be better in every way.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y8zWk9

Looking at various reports of different 4090 brands, it seems that coil whine is more likely to occur on more expensive or "premium" cards while cheaper ones seem to be mostly silent in that regard.
Why is that?

>>92177632
Luck

>>92177537
Don't bet on it. People are panicking and it's causing all the problems.

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6900XT for $650 or 7900XT/4070ti for $800

>>92177632
High end models have bigger VRMs, meaning more coils/inductors and those are causing the noise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D6PKusyvUU
>Why are more expensive cards not using quieter components
I don't know.

>>92177132
>>92177209
this is better for 1k
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tCt4zf
altough i didnt include a monitor

>>92177715
It really doesn't matter dude

>>92177615
Thanks. No reason to go underpowered for the price so Ill check that out.

Tf is the point of dlss3
Input lag like a mf so you need decent frames to begin with but the whole point is to increase “frames” aka smoothness but what point is smooth is it’s paired with latency out the butt

>>92177715
6900 xt for me
i dont need more and im not paying 300 extra
also 4070 ti is vramlet so theres that.

>>92177744
Bet. Thanks for the help

>>92177768
how did you arrive at $300

>>92177715
I feel your pain, but I feel even more pain when I realize there is no need for me to even get new GPU in the first place.
In short, fuck AMD, fuck nVidia.
I'll be buying 7900XT because I want my GPU to last me more than 3 years.

>>92177764
What is wrong with you people it's one frame of latency who cares

>>92177632
when you're gaming, do you play the games in silence?

>>92177770
amdfags can't do math

>>92177764
>What is the point of marketing bullshit
It sells your shit, people will see numbers go up.

But it will get somewhat better over time, DLSS 1.0 was also irredeemable trash.

>>92177769
if you dont wanna pay more than 1.1k with monitor you can get this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7nM69r

>>92177770
7900 xt goes for almost 1k here in europe
650 + 300 = 950
>>92177837
i didnt even consider 4070 ti price here because thats how much its not an option for me
nvidiafag kys with your low vram count

>>92177837
Lmao nvidia is brand recognition over numbers tard

>>92177819
yes, you know where im going with this, and yes it is not noticeable and will not affect the lifespan of the card. the acoustics, caused by a number of coils, reverberate through the gaps in the cards chassis, which are intentionally designed for efficient airflow.

>>92177843
And you’ll only have to buy a new gpu

Are server parts more resilient? I don't want to wake up with my PC dead in 5 years. I'm especially scared that if I buy a 4090 I can kiss it goodbye in 3 years from overheating.

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>he bought a 5800X3D

>>92177866
Lies they are 849 euros now while the cheapest 6900 XT is 699 euros

https://geizhals.de/xfx-speedster-merc-319-radeon-rx-6900-xt-black-gaming-rx-69xtatbd9-a2594543.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=uk

https://geizhals.de/powercolor-radeon-rx-7900-xt-rx-7900-xt-20g-a2864106.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=uk

So it's a 150 euro premium just like in the US.

>>92177922
Not a terrible decision. It just works.

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>>92177866
>7900 xt goes for almost 1k here in europe
Not him, but you can get AIB models even on scamazon for under 900€.
Even less if you get your hardware from krauts.

>>92177922
I still wonder why so many people opt in for that CPU. Do that many people still have an AM4 motherboard and don't want to replace it?

>>92177924
sure they are faggot
or maybe youre just a big consooming dick sucker huh?
buy 7900 xtx and 4090?
if youre already decided on buying this overpriced piece of trash 100 idle watt cards then dont even ask questions to validate your thought process and buying decision>>92177715

>>92177966
Are you drunk or something? I don't care what you buy, your info was just plain wrong.

>>92177962
You're on a gayming board

>>92177962
Why build a new system with top spec ddr4 is cheap and the platform is mature and you can drop in a top spec cpu for 300 bucks that competes with the top dogs on the way more expensive platforms

>>92177918
Exactly! Now you think like nV.
For a small price of $1199 You too can experience the next generation of gaming!
But it was the case with g-sync, then DLSS, we need to wait for open source alternative from either Intel or AMD.

>>92177973
no YOUR info is plain wrong because youre a shill

>>92178004
Swear if the 4090 at least don’t get retroactive updates of the next new good software shit someone just needs to give nvidia the business

What should I get if I want access to Stable Diffusion without paying 2000$ ? rent GPU power? go with AMD and fuck around with Linux? is Kepler an option?

>>92178068
And you know if Jensen wanted for you to have Frame Gen on 3xxx GPUs it would be possible even if performance would not be great. But hey this isn't how you make money.

There any particular reasons the 12600KF isn't among the recommended CPU's? Seems like a solid budget option to my ignorant eyes.

>>92178135
No

>>92176643
yeah it did solid because they only test with like 2 fucking fans. as soon as you wanna put a bunch in there the whole concept of a basement case falls apart. I got a lian-li 011 mini, and I have 3 fans drawing cold air straight onto my 3090. temps are like 65c under full load.

>>92178135
There is one reason, you can't fit more characters into OP.
We need to move some parts of the OP into pastebin.
This is price of bloat we all have to pay.

>>92178135
worse than the 13600kf for similar price
also
>buying outdated cpu when new one is better

>>92177996
>5800X3D
>compete with the top dogs
holy COPE

>>92178194
Go read a chart

>>92178112
Don’t know how people just cave and buy this shit
70 series ain’t no 800 dollar gpus, that’s not even 80 series
Someone needs to post the chart with each gpu gen and their % of the full die and price
Shit has gone retarded and people just gobbling up the goyslop

>>92178152
It’s got 3 fans blowing in and one out, I get plenty air in stock config

>>92178211
>go read a chart fabricated by AMDUnboxed or ShillPowerUp

>>92178271
Shutup faggot, its either you're lying or they are, greentext girl

>>92177962
>Do that many people still have an AM4 motherboard and don't want to replace it?
yes
it's 1 CPU vs an entire new build

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>>92178271
>everyone is lying only i am right

>>92178220
I know that very well, but I think you should look at how much nV is charging for the enterprise solutions. Those sell at even higher margins, slowly they are moving their revenue toward that. They will also make money selling services.
nV is also trying to control AIB partners so much but at some point they won't be needed.
Gayming right now is large part of nV pie but it might shrink relatively to other branches.
Buying ARM didn't work out for them, so at least not everything is going according to their plan.

>>92177962
I always assemble my computers when their components' lifespan is matured and soon to be EOL, of course that used to be a single year with Intel.

Alright faggots I did it. I bought a 750w super flower leadex III, a ryzen 5600, and a powercolor RX 6700 xt to upgrade from my 550w thermaltake, 3600, and RX 6600.
Was this a waste of my $550 idk, but I had a bit to drink so I yolod it

>>92178193
Should it be a similar price? Showing an $80 difference for me. Seems like a fair amount.

>>92178446
similar enough

>>92178193
>30% price increase
I mean I guess if you're already likely buying a 1600 dollar gpu that 100 extra $ isn't that much. Otherwise there's no point in needing so much cpu power it will just get throttled

>>92178444
Your old PSU was sufficient fyi. Are you gonna sell your old parts?

>>92178444
Drugs are bad, m'kay.

>>92176755
12gb is enough for a couple more years let 16gb.
Don't get memed by fucking hogwarts

>>92178644
>couple more years
we need a high end gpu to last 7 minimum, not couple.

Did I ever tell you how you're the second worst general ever? The first one is /hpg/.

>>92178444
I wouldve just bought a nice monitor.. im not shitting you, you will probably see a 10-20 fps increase, virtually none if youre at a high res...

>>92178644
Not him, but by couple you mean 2 right?

>>92178692
No one buys new PCs so we need to improvise with shitposting.

>>92178692
>not the hole of coomers that is chatbot gen which will be moved to /trash/ soon
I bet you're one of them

>>92178694
What? 6700xt is, numbers wise, 30% faster than 6600, more if you're vram limited. Its much better.

You might be right if you are only getting 30 fps, but that is probably not the case.

>>92178746
They're inoffensive, you assholes on the other hand make people buy useless shit which they then they're stuck with or have to sell at a 50% discount to get rid of it, just like the headphones general.

Alright my boss agreed to spend 2000$ even 3000$ on a PC, but she wants to make sure it LASTS and she isn't referring about muh PC gayming. She wants the PC components to not shit out in 7-10 years.

You have one test and one test alone to prove you're not the most useless dangerous fucking general on this board.
What do you recommend someone when he asks for STABILITY, RESISTANCE, LONGEVITY, ETC ? what do you recommend him?

>>92178873
10 year warranty

>>92178873
My 2500K lasted 10 years, it can last another 10 years so I'd say one of those.

>>92178873
evga gt 1030 passively cooled
thats all

>>92178885
Can you even get those if you're not a company buying in bulk?

>>92178873
2 PCs with backups for important data

>>92178873
For what will the PC be used?

>>92178817
>Trusting random basement dwellers with your money
They are asking for it.

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>>92176553
hey guys, i bited the bulled and brought a fucking ali express graphic card, here are the specs and the card is named mingzhou Radeon RX 580, tell me the truth, was it a good catch?

>>92178873
There is no real answer for you as it's impossible to predict what will be reliable.

Some tips tho:
Don't use XMP/EXPO memory.
Avoid high-end/OCing boards even if running things at stock.
Put fans on a curve rather than 100% all the time.

>>92179102
It's a crippled version of a card from 2016. I hope you didn't pay more than $50 for it.

>>92179102
test it on a benchmark and show us the temps and if its noisy

>>92179147
Yeah, run FurMark and keep a fire extinguisher nearby.

>>92179102
Something is wrong with PCI-E speed if this is your screen shot. Also 2304 shaders is a full 580.
Chinks took advantage of you.

>>92179142
it was somewhat of 70 dollars on my currency
>>92179147
how can i benchmark it properly? run payday 2 on it or tf2? lmao

>>92179205
gpu benchmark software
run heaven benchmark (outdated but still ok) or furmark or something

>>92176553
Not directly related to PC-Building, but wanted advice on this. What's a good wired mouse? I've been using a Dell Optical Mouse MS116, but the scroll wheel keeps wearing out after about six months of use.

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>>92179205
warzone

building the pc is so fun but picking the parts is so cancer

>>92179308
only if you have no money

>>92178611
Yeah>>92178644

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>>92176901

>>92178873
*sighs in French*

The answer is a server or workstation motherboard+CPUs+RAM+PSU because workstation GPUs are out of reach unless you know how to cool a Kepler SILENTLY

You never surprise with how dumb you are /pcbg/, you basement dwellers don't even know your own craft, you deserve to be banned.
This is why we don't have a /med/ical board.

Getting an issues of no display mid bios or windows. I transferred a 6900 xt to a new build for a guest computer but after the windows installation mid Radeon driver install the display cuts out. Force shutting off and turning it back on gets no display. After several power cycles I get it to show up but mid bios it cuts out. I can't get it to display with power cycling or CMOS resets and it looks like it's just luck to get it to display.Thought it was the riser so I replaced that as well as doing all the riser troubleshooting with no results. Gave up on the kbuild thinking it was the riser so I moved it back to the original PC with no riser and mid windows install the display cuts out. Same thing where it's lucky to display.

Any ideas? I'm thinking the GPU is a goner somehow.

>>92178948
Yeah I have a 2100 i3 sandy bridge that works just fine for office stuff. How far we've come...

>>92179395
>he buy amd

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>>92179223
>>92179197
>>92179166
>>92179274
i benchmark it and took a screenshoot? lmao its the first time me doing this

>>92179421
install warzone and run the benchmark

If you faggots actually think your 2018+ hardware will last you till 2025 before it fails and burns you've got another thing coming.
Planned obsolesce is in full swing for PC hardware, your PC just became Apple. Your OS will break, your drivers will break, your capacitors will break, your hardware will break from temperature oscillation.
The only chance is server grade stuff cause otherwise the companies will sue their asses off and get the SWAT on their ass AND EVEN THEN they might still have a warranty only for companies.where they are aware of the hardware breaking, but the warranty is only for companies, not you poorfag consumers.

Want a GPU which will last the test of time? dish out the money for a H100.

>>92179461
im still running a r7 2700x 32gb ram and r9 390x build

>>92179486
Your motherboard will automatically die in 6 years. Tick tock tick tock.

>>92179461
None of this applies to me, I run GNU/Linux.

so i have bought a new mobo because i cant bios update mine to 5800x3d, this one doesn't need the bios flash but should i do it anyway?

>>92179542
>None of this applies to me, I run GNU/Linux.
GPU DRIVERS. You think your drivers are safe?

>>92179556
Yes, they're open source. If someone breaks them I can revert the changes.

>>92179531
ive been using it since 2017 which is 6 years

>>92179545
>i cant bios update mine to 5800x3d
why not, too old? a320m?

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>>92179437
>32 gigs
lmao maybe later, as for

>>92179223
>>92179197
>>92179166
>>92179274
this is how you are supposed to run the benchmark right?

>>92179644
Yes, those temps are good but the power usage and FPS is really low. I wonder if the chinks put a power limit on it to prevent it from blowing up.

>>92179644
furmark is a torture test, not a benchmark. get 3dmark and run their free tests like timespy or firestrike

>>92179545
Yes

>>92179197
>Something is wrong with PCI-E speed if this is your screen shot
That's just how GPU-Z works, some cards like my htpc 1650s show 1.1 on idle.

>>92179102
Ignore the faggots suggesting Furmark as that will only saturate the VRMs, your screenshots here >>92179421 >>92179644 are running the core below 1GHz.
Try running Unigine Superposition and Time Spy (free on Steam by downloading 3dmark demo).

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Is the 12700K still a good CPU?
Asking because the CPU I owned before upgrading to the i7 last september was a 3700X, which I had for over 3 years.
When will the 12700k start showing its age? I have it paired with CL15-3000mhz RAM & RTX 3080 on a Z690 and am quite happy with performance so far. I know I can get better synthetic performance if I OC the ram to 3600mhz, but I mostly care about 1 and .1% lows in my videogames.

>>92179869
Yeah it is still good. It gets pretty close to a 12900k or 13600k in games

>>92179869
A 3700X is still a good CPU

>>92179869
As long as games are made for current consoles, it will never get old. So from 5 to 10 years at least.

>>92176964
Based fellow A770 chad, the card is aging like fine wine with the driver support and it’s got 16gb vram

>>92179869
12700k basically equals the 13600k

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If Microsoft turns on my heavily OCd computer at 4am to force an update and the system catches fire, is it their fault?

>>92180263
Why is your stupid computer getting hot from a simple update? User error.

>>92180263
why would it catch fire?

>>92180263
Lots to unpack here
Are you mentally retarded by chance

is qd-oled better than (wrgb-) oled, in terms of gaming?

from ive gathered oled offers darker blacks and deeper contrasts while qd-oled offers the opposite (so it's brighter) and much more.

>>92180288
>>92180367
But I'm not awake to stop it
>>92180345
I dunno, maybe I'm goofing around with power setting in bios and my 4090 catches fire. I could've prevented it if I was present.

Now my wife and kids are dead.
Thanks m$

>>92180419
Your 4090 won't catch fire idiot

>>92180419
You must be the same dude who thought a ups was going to vent gases and kill him

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>>92180263
yes (pic related)

What's the state of egpus?
I have a 3060 and a 2500k because I only need the GPU for ai art but I need a laptop too and was thinking of upgrading my CPU

>>92180575
i wouldn't bother with it

>>92180594
But I need a Thinkpad that doesn't have a U processor that's slow as HELL when I have to use my laptop outside

>>92180419
>Now my wife and kids are dead.
>Thanks m$
youre welcome

What's the equivalent of the i5 3570k of 2021/2022 on the laptop?
What laptops have a removable battery without having to desolder or remove multiple screws?

>>92180733
sir this is the pc building general

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>>92180749
Yes, I'm looking to upgrade my PC to a laptop since I don't play video games and don't actually need to upgrade my CPU but having to manage data on a laptop and desktop sucks when you don't use the cloud.

>>92180776
okay, this isn't the right thread for that

What are some free benchmarks? Both CoD and 3D Mark require buying their base applications.

>>92180785
3D Mark has a demo

>>92178885
Based knower

>>92180419
>power settings
>bios
>catching fire

what in the

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>>92180799
Can I find this free demo somewhere other than Steam?

>>92180776
>having to manage data on a laptop and desktop sucks when you don't use the cloud.
It's called an USB stick/external SSD/NAS (swap depending on your needs)

>>92180776
>>>/g/sqt/

>>92180776
>>92142710

for laptop but /tpg/ love business/workstation laptop.

>>92180703
>no sir at the end
APU YOU STUPID BASTARD YOU INSULT CUSTOMER YOUER FIARD

>>92181067
NO SIR HOW CAN SHE SLAP?

>>92180817
https://store.steampowered.com/widget/231350/

less bloated and actually readable OP:
>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including

>MONITOR:
https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)
State your budget and country.

>NEWS
Upcoming releases: R7 7800X3D (6Apr)
Phoenix Point 7040HS APU
RTX 4060/70
RX 7600XT/7700XT
Recently released:
Ryzen 7950X3D & 7900X3D,
G.SKILL announces 8000mt/s cl38 2x24GB RAM.

>RECOMMENDED CPUs
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: 10105
Budget gaming: 12100F, 12400/F, R5 5600, 13100/F, (whichever is cheapest including mobo/ram)
Extreme gaming: 5800X3D, 7700/X, 13600K/F, 13700K/F, 7950X3D
Buget productivity: 7950X, 13900K/F
Extreme productivity: Xeon W2400/W3400, Threadripper Pro 5000

>RECOMMENDED GPUs
Refrain from buying used unless they come from a trustworthy source.
1080p60:RTX 3060 12GB/RX 6600XT
1440p60:RTX 3060Ti/RTX 3070+Ti/RX 6700+XT/RX 6750XT
4K60:RTX 3080+Ti/RTX 3090/RTX 4070Ti/RX 6800+XT/RX 6900XT/RX 6950XT
4K144:RTX 4080/RTX 4090 and RX 7900XT/RX 7900XTX
Production: RTX 4090, RTX 3090 (compute+VRAM)

>RECOMMENDED RAM
BUDGET DDR4: 2x8GB 3200Cl16
ADVANCED DDR4: 2x16GB 3600CL16
BUDGET DDR5: 2X16GB 6000CL30
ADVANCED DDR5: 2X32GB 6000CL30 (6400CL32 for Intel)
Avoid mixing kits.

>RECOMMENDED CPU COOLERs
https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED PSUs
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

>RECOMMENDED CASES
Your own personal preference

>RECOMMENDED SSDs
If you buy Samsung make sure to download the Samsung Magician and update the firmware
Standouts: Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus, Crucial P5 Plus, WD SN770, Kingston KC3000, WD SN850X
https://ssd.borecraft.com/

>RECOMMENDED MONITORS
https://www.rtings.com/monitor
https://tftcentral.co.uk/awards
https://www.displayninja.com/buying-guide/
https://www.techspot.com/bestof/monitors-22-23/

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>>92181734
go away

>>92181734
>>92181781
has everything necessary from previous op but previous was at the 2000 character limit while this one has almost 200 characters left to add on.

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>upgrade from Polaris series card to 6900XT
>using chrome will randomly black screen the display and it only clears up if I move my mouse
So much for the "upgrade"

Is it normal to screw in your mobo's wifi antenna and still need to basically hold your bluetooth controller near your pc to not drop signal? if so is there anything at all i can do about this?

>>92182044
bluetooth coverage isn't as far as wifi. not sure why you thought the antenna would make any difference

>>92181977
Use microsoft edge or disable gpu hardware scheduling. Google your problem, it can be fixed easily.

Do not buy chinkshit NVMe drives. Lesson learned.

Any recommendations for a board and case? preferably a case on the smaller size

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VTmRcb

>>92182162
I assumed it was HW accel since I've heard about these cards having these issues on the latest drivers. But yeah, googling doesn't really help in this case because "6900XT black screen" will only bring up PSU related issues. Are there any other Chromium applications where I need to disable hardware accel? Like trooncord or steam?

>>92182155
only cause literally everything i read said the mobo uses the antenna for both wifi and bluetooth. but if thats the case is there literally nothing i can do?

>>92182191
https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/disabling-multi-plane-overlay-seems-to-fix-black-screens-and/td-p/560449

>>92181226
thanks anon

>>92182260
>Nevermind. It crashed again.
KEK

>>92181734
32gb 6400CL32 should be in the same tier as 32gb 6000CL30 since they cost the same

probably not the greatest for 1900k and 4090 but it's okay. i got one of the cheapest 4090s on the market (tuf) so im satisfied.

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>>92182585
*13900k
and forgot image

anyone know what 7700x costs in south korea?

>>92182770
It will cost you a wife and a divorce fee.

>>92182599
Overclocked cpu and stock gpu?
My system scores about 3% higher for the gpu and 8% higher for the cpu at the exact same clocks as your system. Memory is at 7200mhz cl34 and vram is overclocked by +1250 though.

>>92181977
it really is amazing how well those cards have held up and how stable they are compared to their newer offerings

>>92181977
>>92182191
Use Firefox. Chrome is dogshit for hardware acceleration on all hardware with bugs and slower performance than Firefox renderer. The only reason people still use Chrome is because of normie mob mentality.

>>92182929
memory is clocked at the same speed same cl no overclocking the vram so maybe that explains it? perhaps i lost the lottery? who knows

my gpu seldom approaches 50c and cpu seldom 70c so im not too worried. i was just curious what my system would rank

>>92183126
Probably just some background tasks eating into some of your cpu/gpu clock cycles

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>>92176553
Any recs for a monitor to pair with a LG 27GL850? I just want to use it for web browsing mostly. Does it have to be the same refresh rate? I think I remember hearing windows has issues with different rates.

>>92183309
If you want the easiest time of it, and indeed can fit it, just buy another 27GL850. You'll probably need/want to calibrate them. If you'd prefer not to match them then it doesn't really matter - just buy one that you like. Matching the refresh rate isn't strictly necessary but 144Hz panels are cheap and plentiful so I'd recommend it anyway just to avoid any risk of driver issues.

Does the 5800X3D need an infinity fabric frequency that matches memory? The BIOS just automatically set the former to 3600Mhz while the latter is at 3333Mhz, and I was telling myself that maybe this particular CPU behaved differently and this was fine.

For gaming, what should you prio GPU or CPU? By that I mean, if you have to choose between a 12400F with a 3060 TI or 3070, or a 13400F with a 3060 or 6650XT what should you focus on if you have to stay within a certain budget? The former is about 215$ more expensive.
There isnt much difference in those CPUs, but there is some

>>92183578
IF and memory are supposed to be synced or else you incur a latency penalty. If the BIOS did that automatically then it sounds like a bug didn't apply it correctly. If memory is 3333mhz then IF should be 1666 or 1667 some BIOS show it differently.

>>92183657
The GPU. All you need for a CPU is something AMD or Intel with 8 cores, and in Intel's case 8 perf cores, preferably no e-cores.

>>92183573
Yeah I checked and they're a bit cheaper now so maybe I'll just get another. On a related note since the stands for these are so stupidly huge I'll probably need a boom arm monitor stand, will any or do or is there a go to brand?

>>92183697
That's what I thought. Thanks.

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any good cpu cooler?
good thermo pasta?

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>>92183578
Post your clocks. Pic rel is Ryzen Master but I'm sure you can find them in HWinfo. 3600 FCLK is impossible - if your DDR memory speed is 3600MHz then your FCLK should be half of that i.e. 1800.
Answering your question in the abstract, the performance penalty (in gaming) for decoupled clocks is likely smaller on the X3D, because the large cache means fewer memory accesses, but it's still present. If you are running decoupled you should either tune it back into alignment or reduce your memory clock until it syncs automatically.

>>92183710
just get an artic liquid freezer 2

>>92183699
Thanks man!

>>92183762
Obviously, I meant 1800. Just started tweaking my b-die kit to manage 3600Mhz memory

Is it just me or is x670e chipsets fucked? Tried to get an ASUS x670e-e mobo to work and only one DIMM slot works. Tried firmware update to get both DIMM sticks to work and still nothing.

Reading that the other x670e mobos have tons of issues with DDR5 like mine. Started the replacement process but honestly wish I could just start the build over with a different chipset.

>>92183700
>will any or do or is there a go to brand?
Bit of both. There's tonnes of cheap ones that look like they're all made in the same factory in Fujian. I have one of those, branded Invision, and it works well enough with my own 27GL850. If you want to splash some cash then the "premium" brand to get is Ergotron.
One thing you should know about mounting that monitor to an arm is that the VESA holes are recessed. You will need to either find an arm with a backplate that will fit inside the cutout or jury rig it with washers. Measure twice cut once.
Finally, don't buy one of the cheap ones with minimal adjustment ranges.

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will nvidia in yurop ever be a consideration again

>>92183822
thank you for beta testing gweilo!

>>92183822
>asus
they're not exactly shining with am5 boards

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>>92183867
As long as retards keep getting scared of drivers and using Windows incorrectly then Nvidia will always have a lead over AMD.

>>92183801
Well like I said you want it in 1:1 for the best gaming performance. Plus, the X3D doesn't much scale with memory so there's little need to tune it to the absolute limit. Find your highest stable 1:1 and tighten the timings a bit. If that's only 1600 then so be it. No great loss. Hell, even if it can do 1900 you might still want to dial it back a bit for daily use.

>>92183980
You're completely right - just doing it because muh hobby. If memory voltage has to be higher than 1.4 to run stable, then I don't want it

Poorfag here. I am renting an apartment with one bedroom, bath and living room/kitchen. I dont want to sit in the bedroom and game because it is too small, but I am afraid that the cooking will potentially damage my PC if I keep it there. Is there any way to protect my PC?

>>92184116
Raincoat

>>92184129
It is the cooking ooze I am worried about, not splatter

>>92184116
HEPA filtration?

>>92184181
I have standard ventilation above the oven, but also got an air refresher with HEPA in the room.

>>92184209
then just be yourself

>>92183938
>using Windows incorrectly
lol keep coping AMDrone

>>92176553
>>RECOMMENDED RAM
>Budget: 2x8gb DDR4 3600 MT/s CL18
>Standard: 2x16gb DDR5 6000 MT/s CL30 (Zen4) or 6400 MT/s CL32 (13th gen)
Does this mean there is no point in getting 32 RAM if don't get DDR5 or have a budget gaming PC? The difference between 16 and 32 is about 60 bucks so that doesnt seem too bad

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>>92184292

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>mfw only reason to "upgrade" from i7 3770k is m.2 ssd drives

convince me to drop €950 on the following pieces:
ryzen 5 7600x
32gb corsair vengeance amd optimized ram
b650m ds3h
2tb crucial p3 plus
noctua nh-u12a

safe to continue using a 10 year old evga 650w bronze plus psu?

>>92184431
Sure, since you asked

Your.computer in ancient
You want the best
Why not get the new shit?
Be ahead of the pack
Power supplies can come with protections

>>92184431
>convince me to drop €950
no, faggot. if you want to continue using a slow as shit hdd, no skin off my bones. if anything, please don't upgrade. more left in stock for folks who actually want to upgrade their systems.

is 13600kf enough for 1440p?

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Hey guys, my cheap case's front header doesn't have vcc and gnd pin for the USB, is this safe to plugin?
The case only has pic related and thr regular power/reset switchs and hdd/power leds

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>>92185047
The mainboard's manual said you need to plugin the vcc and gnd pins but I don't have those

>>92184989
How braindead are you

>>92185143
very

>>92185203
Marry me

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>>92185214

Can't seem to get my CPU stable with EXPO turned on in OCCT. Ram runs fine in memtest86 without errors running at that speed yet OCCT starts giving out errors after running for a few minutes.

I'm running the stock cooler cause I didn't want to bother ocing.

Running the Trident Neo 5 6000mhzc30 kit, which is on the QVL list.

Haven't tried loosening the timings, but without expo OCCT doesn't give any errors.

>>92185219
r u an android girl??

>>92185288
What motherboard? Some boards like b650 asus boards tend to have issues with expo.

>>92185315

Gigabyte B650M AX, which is odd cause techpowerup tested it and they were quite positive with it's memory performance, though I did have to upgrade my BIOS before I could post

>>92176948
The R&D invested in making high end CPUs and GPUs isn't gone to waste though.
Pretty much like car manufacturers using R&D from racing cars to make consumer grade cars.

>>92184085
>If memory voltage has to be higher than 1.4 to run stable, then I don't want it
Should be fine for B-die.
Hell my stock XMP is 1.45v.

>PC is 7 years old and in the process of dying, i.e random blue screens, heavy fan noises, GPU sag
>Could build a new rig now, but doing so would mean missing out on better architecture like Ryzen 5 or Meteor Lake without wasting money on current gen stuff
>Even AyyM5 socket isn't a safe choice is the first iteration of those motherboards still has issues which will most likely be gone with the next chipset wave
I hate the "just wait for better stuff" meme.

>>92185503
Just wait

>>92185047
if the case was made in the last 5 years, yes it's safe. if it's an older one, time to upgrade.

>>92176616
Its a nice case, would recommend

>>92185555
May I ask why? Modern case has better design for better grounding (lead the electric to the ground?)
Its is a new case but made in china tho, so I guess I will pass this usb thingy just to be safe

>>92185635
>Its is a new case but made in china tho
everything you use is made in china

>>92179545
>so i have bought a new mobo because i cant bios update mine to 5800x3d
fuck i almost had that problem but after already buying the 5800x3d and booting the pc with it inside lol, thankfully a cmos clear made it work. pain

>>92185654
Yeah but we have this china and that china.

>>92185654
5800x3d is fucking black magic, a chip this good and this cheap, man AMD is on fire. Too bad this will make them increase the cost even more

How many USB ports do I need for VR? Don't have a particular headset in mind yet.

why do people here recommend changing things in bios over ryzen master

>>92185693
2

>>92185707
Have you seen the loading time on that thing

>>92185707
because why would i use ryzen master when i can use the bios

>>92185716
thanks

OP faggot make a new thread I have a very important question to ask in the new thread.

And if soiboys itt can't answer my super hard question properly I consider this "pc building" expertise useless since you clearly a bunch of clowns who can't even into computer parts etc.

My question will be a hard decision making question. Be prepared and I mark it as such.

>>92185799
shut up clown

>>92185804
Shut it mommy boi

>>92185333
You could try to downgrade the bios 1 version down. It might help memory oc if the latest AGESA borked something.

>>92185799
If its so important, you better make the first post on the new thread if not we'll ignore you for the faggot you are

>>92185827
What if your mobo brick while flashing?
Can you undo the damage?

>>92185845
with the right hardware, yes

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>>92185799
BRING IT

>>92184301
8GB ddr5 sticks are gimped

>>92185845
>brick
Boards with bios flashback or dual bios can be recovered in many cases. Otherwise your only option would be to rma or use an external bios flasher

>>92176553
Hey guys,

I'd like to buy a Z690 DDR4 Motherboard to pair with my future Intel Core i5-13600K. The problem is that I don't know anything about mb, do you guys have any advice ? What should I go for ?

Btw I'm going for a Z690 instead of a Z790 to spare some money for a better monitor

>>92186003
z690-a pro d4
just remember you'll need to use bios flashback since it probably won't have a bios version with 13th gen support ootb

>>92185827

Can you downgrade bios, I do have bios flashback? I just came home and memtest is still running, no errors.

Damn, kinda regret going AM5 instead of AM4, though it might improve later on. I'm wondering what other settings I could try, perhaps setting the soc voltage a bit higher would help with the memory.

>>92184301
If you intend whatever you build to last a few years then you may as well get 32.

>>92186029
>Can you downgrade bios, I do have bios flashback?
That depends on the mb model. I can't say since I don't own the same board as you.
>perhaps setting the soc voltage a bit higher would help with the memory
SoC voltage sweetspots. If its too high or too low, it'll cause stability issues. It needs to be within a range that'll work right for your cpu at your target memory speed.

>Want/need to upgrade my 2tb storage
>PC works great, don't want to fuck it up
guess i'll be deleting shit every other day

>>92186107
just pay a tip to a more experienced friend to do it for you or get an >external if you're that much of a pussy ass

>>92186120
I'll muster up the courage eventually, just had to whine on a vietnamese kayaking forum

>>92186147
We're chinese

>>92186147
And it's called a paddleboat

>>92184319
My legacy. It's made by Subaru I think.

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RTX 4060, 4060Ti and 4070 are all going to be absolute MASSIVE flops aren't they.

>>92186305
whats wrong with that, if they flop nvidia will have to do better next time
not like there's any good shit to use those cards on

>>92186305
good maybe they won't be so fucking arrogant next time

Hello,

I want to upgrade my old ram corsair vengeance lpx 2666 16Gigs to 32Gigs 3600 CL16

My choises are the following:

Gskill ripjaws V ($110) https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/184/1562831784/F4-3600C16D-32GVKC-Specification

Kingston Fury ($105) https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KF436C16RB1K2_32.pdf

Gskill trident Z/ trident Z neo ($135) https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/166/1562743478/F4-3600C16D-32GTZRC-Specification / https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/326/1562840211/F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC-Specification

Which one should i get?
CPU: R7 5800X3D
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro
Bios ver F63f

Motherboard QVL:https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_b450_4L4D_matisse.pdf?v=a0a08d71b3b84f0182d326e14d5c21fe
it hasnt been updated since OCT 2021

Ripjaws are in there but the 2x8 model
Trident Z are also in there but the 4x16 mdoel
Kingston are not in it, there are the old HyperX models

I'm leaning towards the Ripjaws sice they have lower timings thatn the Fury at the same price and i dont care about rgb.
Also what is the difference between the Ripjaws and the trident z? better controllers better memory modules?

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>>92186305
Wait for 50 series

>>92186374
Imagine knowing this stuff

>>92186305
The 4070ti is already questionable.

>>92186305
4070 will cost more than a 6800xt but perform the same if not worse

>>92186305
>rtx 4050
>100 tdp
>16pin cable
cant wait

>>92186374
I'd get 3600 cl14 b-die from aliexpress then apply manual OC, Asgard 2x8gb kits go between $80-$100.

>>92186487
You forgot:
> weighs 3 kg

>>92185799
Bake it yourself you arrogant faggot nigger

>>92186488
it takes 2 months to get orders from aliexpress where i live, those 3 options are the only ones i can find in stock locally

Looks like OPs back