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>>92176553DO NOT BUY AMD COMPONENTSDO NOT BUY AMD COMPONENTSDO NOT BUY AMD COMPONENTS
>>92176553Amd's cuck cores will ve just as bad as intel's cuck coresand i will not buy any cpu with cuck cores no matter if theyre amd or intelfuck amd and fuck intel give me real cores
>>92176571explain to me about what is cuck core
R8 and H8 buildComplete with all my recent upgrades https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7LssTn
>>92176587That case is a piece of shit. I seriously don't know why anyone buys bottom "basement" pcs anymore. just completely cucks gpu airflow for no reason.
yay or nay? any experiences?
>>92176571Just get sapphire rapids bro
>>92176602Airflow is p good, brute forced but not badGamers nexus or whichever techfags did a big case/temps meta review it did p solid
I had a friend help build this for me, as I have bad luck with computer parts the last time I changed something out. I'm a little worried about the "tight" look of the power adapter cable, but it seems fine and is quite. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XG84zf
I’m with the anon from the end of last thread that the idea of price to performance first is pretty lame.It takes a lot of the creativity out of building your own pc, and while it stems from a good concept>DIY instead of prebuilt to save money and get a better system for your moneyTaking it to the extreme that the only factor that matters is your framerate in relation to money spent is ridiculous. There are so many other things to factor in, thermals, acoustics, platform longevity or lack thereof depending on need, aesthetics, feature specific needs, etcTake into consideration what you want to get out of a diy pc beyond just how the games will run. If you want dead silent you pay more for dead silent. If you want flash and flair you spend more for flash and flair. If you have some situational need where you need moar coars and no gpu performance then have fun with your 7950X and GT210, that’s all you.Pic unrelated, my favorite gpu.
>>92176585BIG.little small ARM corelook up intel efficiency cores
is the rtx 4080 my only option if i want maximum performance for 300w tdp or under?
>>92176624unironically if server cpus are the only ones left ill unironically start building a xeon/epyc/threadripper build insteadfuck this shit
>>92176648Overkill on the psu and fans. Everything else is fine. Just make sure the 12VHPWR cable is fully recessed. It doesn't give a good audible click unfortunately. Shouldn't be an issue though, the 3070 doesn't use that much power.
>>92176691I'd sooner get a 7900 xt because the 4080s memory will be an issue soon.
>>92176654What made the anon sound dumb is he just flat out says 'price per frames is retarded'It's literally one graph to help inform buyersJust a dumb call out from him
>>92176587>CPU Whatever.>CoolerWaste of money many better and cheaper options. FOTM Peerless Assasin is one of them.>moboI don't see you using anything that warrants getting X570, so waste of money.>RamThose heatspreaders are so bad they act more like thermal isolators, 16-19-19-39 isn't any better than 18-20-20-40 in real world. Still doesn't matter much.>Storage Don't care>GPUOnly real GPU worth buying, this is sad.>CaseOven>PSU Won't cause housefire>OSWhat are you even doing? Overall you could get Zen4 with 7800X3D for the same price if you didn't pay for winblows and this shit cooler.2/10
wondering if this would even fit https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yGjLGL
>>92176624Jesus ChristEven the stock cpu peaks at 450 watts.
>>92176734Eh, people recommended the fan and it was only $70ish after tax. Plus the PSU was $150 while the $850w was $120, so it was a small extra for the extra power.
>>92176654Great speech faggot. If someone has specific goals we adjust builds with that in mind.
>>92176706It's what I'm doing next build.Consumer desktop sockets have a single merit and that is clock speeds.
>>92176778TWO THOUSAND FUCKING WATTS?FOR A CPU?
>>92176778>ln2>stockJust how retarded are you?legit question
>>92176769It’s an upgrade from 3700x/2080S buildNo sense going zen4 when I got access to the based 5800x3d
>>92176789Sure just trying to inform you. You could also get a higher efficiency psu instead of a higher wattage. For fans everyone has stepped up recently.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JmfnTW/thermalright-tl-c12c-6617-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-tl-c12c-x3-d6
>>92176826I posted the clipping from an article where it hits 1881 watts under ln2 at 5.5ghzAnd then also included the line>even the stock cpu peaks at 450w>stock cpuFucking read you turbo nigger
>>92176826You want power efficiency and you're looking at Intel HEDT?
>>92176857That changes things. Still why would you even consider paying for windows? Are you writing this of taxes or some shit?
AMD would rather sell PS5s than X3Ds and XTXs.
I have a 550w thermaltake smart bronze psu running a 3600 and RX 6600. Prices look pretty good rn, so I would like to buy a 5600 and a 6700 xt. Would my 550w power supply be OK? I see the 6700xt recommends 650w
>>92176911Yes. It's said to be 650 watt in case of the cpu needing more power
>>92176901What the hell are they even playing on the PS5?
>>92176894I just built my system out on pcpartpicker because my buddy asked about my systemJust posting here for feedback, not buying anything it’s all sitting on my desk
>>92176866>And then also included the line>>even the stock cpu peaks at 450wi mean considering thats for 56 p-cores that makes the 250w pl2 on a 13900k look really shitty
>>92176901hundreds of millions of people around the world buy consoleshow many people buy pc components? maybe at most a few million, how many buy amd specifically x3d's and high end xtx? tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands maybe
>>92176911That's such a minor upgrade I wouldn't bother. You can get a used cpu off ebay for am4 and current gen midtier gpus should be releasing in a month or so.
>>92176799The fuck you doAny time someone comes into any, and I mean literally any pc community, and has some goal in mind that isn’t the price to performance king of the week, two billion mega virgins descend upon them with “are you retarded? buy X instead, Y is a waste of money”It’s one thing to inform others like >”if you’re trying to save money you can do XYZ instead”but it’s never presented that way, it’s always immediate ignorance of the original build concept, substituting it for whatever poorfags dream of insteadExample, It brings me actual enjoyment, almost a sexual satisfaction, when people get upset that I bought an Arc A770I bought it because it’s a cool thing that amuses me, the price of it was never a concern, its software or overall performance in comparison to its competition never crossed my mind. And to know there’s people out there that need to give a fuck about 5fps or $20, makes me certain I’m better than them.
>>92176587The cooler and mobo are overkillCase is like whatever. I'm a fractal design fanboy however so take that as you wishSorta same for the PSU, won't set your house on fire and you'll have enough headroom
>>92176911ot says it reccomend 550 watts on techpowerup
>>92176911You won't see much difference between 3600 and 5600 with this GPU.There are games where you could get 20% performance gain but overall you will be GPU bound anyway.As for PSU, 6700XT draws around 220W but it can peak above 300W for brief moments. But even with that in mind 550W will be enough if your PSU isn't trash.t. fag who upgraded from 3600 to 5600
>>92176911this is just a waste of money for a 5% "upgrade"
>>92176936Mea culpa, Anon.Enjoy your PC.
>>92176942Yes, kinda similar to the Quadro vs GeForce thingThe A2000 being somewhere between the 3050 and 3060 but at only 70 wattsShows what the consumers get versus the real shit, ever time with the high end xeons And then we used to get the weird consumer xeons which defeated the entire point but those haven’t been a thing in a while
>>92177065>And then we used to get the weird consumer xeonsI miss my 1245v3
>>92176956Well, the 3600 I currently have will sell for probably $75 in ebay. Microcenter has the 5600 for $129. $129-75= $54. Sure it isn't a huge upgrade, but I don't mind paying $54. As for the gpu. That actually will be a big upgrade for me. I have a 1440p monitor, and I am sick of having to cope. The 6600 will probably sell for $150. I can get the 6700xt for $369. So $369-150=$219. Not bad at all for a 40% upgrade. Its not the end of the world for me to spend ~$260 for the upgrade that this will be. Just nervous about my power supply.
>>92176964>when people get upset that I bought an Arc A770>I bought it because it’s a cool thing that amuses me, the price of it was never a concern,Should be the attitude of anyone really.Everything would be better if peeps just admitted they bought something because they enjoy having it rather than trying to find some excuse on why they "need" something.It's extra amusing to see people defend brands or products that lack X/Y feature by saying it's "not needed"
Ive been PSPleb my whole life and I refuse to get a PS5. Are these good specs for a starter PC I found for 1k? 1920x threadripperRTX 206064GB of ram256 gb Nvme ssd500 gb SSD75hz monitorI dont game much anymore but itd be nice to have something that can do more. Thanks
>>92177041I very much doUsed to game on a T430 thinkpad and shitty mouse when I was a student, so it’s a nice treat to be able to push high res high fps on ultra settings
>>92176789your tig is fine don't listen to that other guy.
>>92176862True, I'm just use to the 1000w since my 10 year old PC has used 1000w and I have had zero issues with it. I do appriciate the feedback, as I forgot there was a step above Gold rated. Those fans also look good, so I might swap them out.
>>92177135Just be aware this is a dark path, you won't be able to enjoy playing at potato settings anymore. Every drop in framerate will get noticed.You will look at people who play on laptops and think of them less. You were warned /s
>>92177132looks good if you are doing some type of code compiling/productivity stuffaltough that tr is a few gens old it should still do alrighr and the ram definitely helps.you can build a pc with better single core performance and better gpu for 1k tho
>>92177132 no point buying 1st gen threadripper at all
>>92176648Do you have a question?
>>92177011I don't know if you would consider this "trash" or not but this is it:>https://www.thermaltakeusa.com/smart-bm2-550w-tt-premium-edition.htmlAnd I hear you with the upgrade from 3600 to 5600, but I use my cpu for things other than just gaming. Everything I see shows it as a 15% boost and at the price it seems good to me.
>>92177034I don't think you realize the difference between a 6600 and a 6700xt
>>92177065>but those haven’t been a thing in a whileThey got replaced by CoreYour Core series CPU becomes a quasi-Xeon when you place it in a W680 motherboard.You don't gain much except ECC support but really that was all you gained when you bought those desktop socket Xeons.I guess you also get some additional board level features like IPMI since that only really exists on W680 boards
>>92177274Just if the adapter looked bad a bit twisted like that, but I adjusted it a bit to have it be more straightened.
Tempted to buy the 4090 but it’s hard to justify just for gayming. Any other neat shit I can use it’s power for?
>>92177359blenderstable diffusionmaking games
>>92177371Those all sound like they take effort and skill
>>92177416Although rtx remix does sound neat, not sure what sort of skill tree you need to use that
>>921772755600 pulls even less power than 3600, a few watts but still.If you hit jackpot on silicon lottery you can expect 4.8GHz not all core.This alone is around 15% performance boost from 4.2GHz 3600 in gaymes, you will get IPC improvements on top, but 4.7GHz is more realistic. I don't know what other workloads you have for your CPU. PSU should not blow up.
>>92177416its easy to learnopen up your mind and go in with enthusiasm
>>92177416stable diffusion is just adding more words to the prompt until you don't get 7 fingers
>>92177484Kek I actually have been looking at that, I do some wildlife/macro photography and think it’d be cool to train a model to create new work in my style
>>92176553Is there any chance for hardware to finally lower in price this summer? or are the banks falling just going to make everything even more expensive? but no cause nobody will be able to pay for PCs anymore.
>>92177456OK thanks. Ngl I am now tempted to buy a psu as well tho now
>>92177537How poor are you
>>92177132Decent BUT. The GPU and CPU are underpowered for what you pay. This system would be better in every way.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y8zWk9
Looking at various reports of different 4090 brands, it seems that coil whine is more likely to occur on more expensive or "premium" cards while cheaper ones seem to be mostly silent in that regard.Why is that?
>>92177537Don't bet on it. People are panicking and it's causing all the problems.
6900XT for $650 or 7900XT/4070ti for $800
>>92177632High end models have bigger VRMs, meaning more coils/inductors and those are causing the noise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D6PKusyvUU>Why are more expensive cards not using quieter componentsI don't know.
>>92177132>>92177209this is better for 1khttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/tCt4zfaltough i didnt include a monitor
>>92177715It really doesn't matter dude
>>92177615Thanks. No reason to go underpowered for the price so Ill check that out.
Tf is the point of dlss3Input lag like a mf so you need decent frames to begin with but the whole point is to increase “frames” aka smoothness but what point is smooth is it’s paired with latency out the butt
>>921777156900 xt for mei dont need more and im not paying 300 extra also 4070 ti is vramlet so theres that.
>>92177744Bet. Thanks for the help
>>92177768how did you arrive at $300
>>92177715I feel your pain, but I feel even more pain when I realize there is no need for me to even get new GPU in the first place. In short, fuck AMD, fuck nVidia.I'll be buying 7900XT because I want my GPU to last me more than 3 years.
>>92177764What is wrong with you people it's one frame of latency who cares
>>92177632when you're gaming, do you play the games in silence?
>>92177770amdfags can't do math
>>92177764>What is the point of marketing bullshitIt sells your shit, people will see numbers go up.But it will get somewhat better over time, DLSS 1.0 was also irredeemable trash.
>>92177769if you dont wanna pay more than 1.1k with monitor you can get thishttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/7nM69r
>>921777707900 xt goes for almost 1k here in europe650 + 300 = 950>>92177837i didnt even consider 4070 ti price here because thats how much its not an option for menvidiafag kys with your low vram count
>>92177837Lmao nvidia is brand recognition over numbers tard
>>92177819yes, you know where im going with this, and yes it is not noticeable and will not affect the lifespan of the card. the acoustics, caused by a number of coils, reverberate through the gaps in the cards chassis, which are intentionally designed for efficient airflow.
>>92177843And you’ll only have to buy a new gpu
Are server parts more resilient? I don't want to wake up with my PC dead in 5 years. I'm especially scared that if I buy a 4090 I can kiss it goodbye in 3 years from overheating.
>he bought a 5800X3D
>>92177866Lies they are 849 euros now while the cheapest 6900 XT is 699 euroshttps://geizhals.de/xfx-speedster-merc-319-radeon-rx-6900-xt-black-gaming-rx-69xtatbd9-a2594543.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=ukhttps://geizhals.de/powercolor-radeon-rx-7900-xt-rx-7900-xt-20g-a2864106.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=ukSo it's a 150 euro premium just like in the US.
>>92177922Not a terrible decision. It just works.
>>92177866>7900 xt goes for almost 1k here in europeNot him, but you can get AIB models even on scamazon for under 900€.Even less if you get your hardware from krauts.
>>92177922I still wonder why so many people opt in for that CPU. Do that many people still have an AM4 motherboard and don't want to replace it?
>>92177924sure they are faggotor maybe youre just a big consooming dick sucker huh?buy 7900 xtx and 4090?if youre already decided on buying this overpriced piece of trash 100 idle watt cards then dont even ask questions to validate your thought process and buying decision>>92177715
>>92177966Are you drunk or something? I don't care what you buy, your info was just plain wrong.
>>92177962You're on a gayming board
>>92177962Why build a new system with top spec ddr4 is cheap and the platform is mature and you can drop in a top spec cpu for 300 bucks that competes with the top dogs on the way more expensive platforms
>>92177918Exactly! Now you think like nV.For a small price of $1199 You too can experience the next generation of gaming!But it was the case with g-sync, then DLSS, we need to wait for open source alternative from either Intel or AMD.
>>92177973no YOUR info is plain wrong because youre a shill
>>92178004Swear if the 4090 at least don’t get retroactive updates of the next new good software shit someone just needs to give nvidia the business
What should I get if I want access to Stable Diffusion without paying 2000$ ? rent GPU power? go with AMD and fuck around with Linux? is Kepler an option?
>>92178068And you know if Jensen wanted for you to have Frame Gen on 3xxx GPUs it would be possible even if performance would not be great. But hey this isn't how you make money.
There any particular reasons the 12600KF isn't among the recommended CPU's? Seems like a solid budget option to my ignorant eyes.
>>92176643yeah it did solid because they only test with like 2 fucking fans. as soon as you wanna put a bunch in there the whole concept of a basement case falls apart. I got a lian-li 011 mini, and I have 3 fans drawing cold air straight onto my 3090. temps are like 65c under full load.
>>92178135There is one reason, you can't fit more characters into OP.We need to move some parts of the OP into pastebin.This is price of bloat we all have to pay.
>>92178135worse than the 13600kf for similar pricealso>buying outdated cpu when new one is better
>>92177996>5800X3D>compete with the top dogsholy COPE
>>92178194Go read a chart
>>92178112Don’t know how people just cave and buy this shit70 series ain’t no 800 dollar gpus, that’s not even 80 seriesSomeone needs to post the chart with each gpu gen and their % of the full die and price Shit has gone retarded and people just gobbling up the goyslop
>>92178152It’s got 3 fans blowing in and one out, I get plenty air in stock config
>>92178211>go read a chart fabricated by AMDUnboxed or ShillPowerUp
>>92178271Shutup faggot, its either you're lying or they are, greentext girl
>>92177962>Do that many people still have an AM4 motherboard and don't want to replace it?yesit's 1 CPU vs an entire new build
>>92178271>everyone is lying only i am right
>>92178220I know that very well, but I think you should look at how much nV is charging for the enterprise solutions. Those sell at even higher margins, slowly they are moving their revenue toward that. They will also make money selling services. nV is also trying to control AIB partners so much but at some point they won't be needed.Gayming right now is large part of nV pie but it might shrink relatively to other branches.Buying ARM didn't work out for them, so at least not everything is going according to their plan.
>>92177962I always assemble my computers when their components' lifespan is matured and soon to be EOL, of course that used to be a single year with Intel.
Alright faggots I did it. I bought a 750w super flower leadex III, a ryzen 5600, and a powercolor RX 6700 xt to upgrade from my 550w thermaltake, 3600, and RX 6600. Was this a waste of my $550 idk, but I had a bit to drink so I yolod it
>>92178193Should it be a similar price? Showing an $80 difference for me. Seems like a fair amount.
>>92178193>30% price increaseI mean I guess if you're already likely buying a 1600 dollar gpu that 100 extra $ isn't that much. Otherwise there's no point in needing so much cpu power it will just get throttled
>>92178444Your old PSU was sufficient fyi. Are you gonna sell your old parts?
>>92178444Drugs are bad, m'kay.
>>9217675512gb is enough for a couple more years let 16gb.Don't get memed by fucking hogwarts
>>92178644>couple more yearswe need a high end gpu to last 7 minimum, not couple.
Did I ever tell you how you're the second worst general ever? The first one is /hpg/.
>>92178444I wouldve just bought a nice monitor.. im not shitting you, you will probably see a 10-20 fps increase, virtually none if youre at a high res...
>>92178644Not him, but by couple you mean 2 right?
>>92178692No one buys new PCs so we need to improvise with shitposting.
>>92178692>not the hole of coomers that is chatbot gen which will be moved to /trash/ soonI bet you're one of them
>>92178694What? 6700xt is, numbers wise, 30% faster than 6600, more if you're vram limited. Its much better. You might be right if you are only getting 30 fps, but that is probably not the case.
>>92178746They're inoffensive, you assholes on the other hand make people buy useless shit which they then they're stuck with or have to sell at a 50% discount to get rid of it, just like the headphones general.
Alright my boss agreed to spend 2000$ even 3000$ on a PC, but she wants to make sure it LASTS and she isn't referring about muh PC gayming. She wants the PC components to not shit out in 7-10 years.You have one test and one test alone to prove you're not the most useless dangerous fucking general on this board.What do you recommend someone when he asks for STABILITY, RESISTANCE, LONGEVITY, ETC ? what do you recommend him?
>>9217887310 year warranty
>>92178873My 2500K lasted 10 years, it can last another 10 years so I'd say one of those.
>>92178873evga gt 1030 passively cooledthats all
>>92178885Can you even get those if you're not a company buying in bulk?
>>921788732 PCs with backups for important data
>>92178873For what will the PC be used?
>>92178817>Trusting random basement dwellers with your moneyThey are asking for it.
>>92176553hey guys, i bited the bulled and brought a fucking ali express graphic card, here are the specs and the card is named mingzhou Radeon RX 580, tell me the truth, was it a good catch?
>>92178873There is no real answer for you as it's impossible to predict what will be reliable.Some tips tho:Don't use XMP/EXPO memory.Avoid high-end/OCing boards even if running things at stock.Put fans on a curve rather than 100% all the time.
>>92179102It's a crippled version of a card from 2016. I hope you didn't pay more than $50 for it.
>>92179102test it on a benchmark and show us the temps and if its noisy
>>92179147Yeah, run FurMark and keep a fire extinguisher nearby.
>>92179102Something is wrong with PCI-E speed if this is your screen shot. Also 2304 shaders is a full 580.Chinks took advantage of you.
>>92179142it was somewhat of 70 dollars on my currency>>92179147how can i benchmark it properly? run payday 2 on it or tf2? lmao
>>92179205gpu benchmark softwarerun heaven benchmark (outdated but still ok) or furmark or something
>>92176553Not directly related to PC-Building, but wanted advice on this. What's a good wired mouse? I've been using a Dell Optical Mouse MS116, but the scroll wheel keeps wearing out after about six months of use.
building the pc is so fun but picking the parts is so cancer
>>92179308only if you have no money
>>92178873*sighs in French*The answer is a server or workstation motherboard+CPUs+RAM+PSU because workstation GPUs are out of reach unless you know how to cool a Kepler SILENTLY You never surprise with how dumb you are /pcbg/, you basement dwellers don't even know your own craft, you deserve to be banned.This is why we don't have a /med/ical board.
Getting an issues of no display mid bios or windows. I transferred a 6900 xt to a new build for a guest computer but after the windows installation mid Radeon driver install the display cuts out. Force shutting off and turning it back on gets no display. After several power cycles I get it to show up but mid bios it cuts out. I can't get it to display with power cycling or CMOS resets and it looks like it's just luck to get it to display.Thought it was the riser so I replaced that as well as doing all the riser troubleshooting with no results. Gave up on the kbuild thinking it was the riser so I moved it back to the original PC with no riser and mid windows install the display cuts out. Same thing where it's lucky to display.Any ideas? I'm thinking the GPU is a goner somehow.
>>92178948Yeah I have a 2100 i3 sandy bridge that works just fine for office stuff. How far we've come...
>>92179395>he buy amd
>>92179223>>92179197>>92179166>>92179274i benchmark it and took a screenshoot? lmao its the first time me doing this
>>92179421install warzone and run the benchmark
If you faggots actually think your 2018+ hardware will last you till 2025 before it fails and burns you've got another thing coming.Planned obsolesce is in full swing for PC hardware, your PC just became Apple. Your OS will break, your drivers will break, your capacitors will break, your hardware will break from temperature oscillation.The only chance is server grade stuff cause otherwise the companies will sue their asses off and get the SWAT on their ass AND EVEN THEN they might still have a warranty only for companies.where they are aware of the hardware breaking, but the warranty is only for companies, not you poorfag consumers.Want a GPU which will last the test of time? dish out the money for a H100.
>>92179461im still running a r7 2700x 32gb ram and r9 390x build
>>92179486Your motherboard will automatically die in 6 years. Tick tock tick tock.
>>92179461None of this applies to me, I run GNU/Linux.
so i have bought a new mobo because i cant bios update mine to 5800x3d, this one doesn't need the bios flash but should i do it anyway?
>>92179542>None of this applies to me, I run GNU/Linux.GPU DRIVERS. You think your drivers are safe?
>>92179556Yes, they're open source. If someone breaks them I can revert the changes.
>>92179531ive been using it since 2017 which is 6 years
>>92179545>i cant bios update mine to 5800x3dwhy not, too old? a320m?
>>92179437>32 gigslmao maybe later, as for>>92179223>>92179197>>92179166>>92179274this is how you are supposed to run the benchmark right?
>>92179644Yes, those temps are good but the power usage and FPS is really low. I wonder if the chinks put a power limit on it to prevent it from blowing up.
>>92179644furmark is a torture test, not a benchmark. get 3dmark and run their free tests like timespy or firestrike
>>92179197>Something is wrong with PCI-E speed if this is your screen shotThat's just how GPU-Z works, some cards like my htpc 1650s show 1.1 on idle.
>>92179102Ignore the faggots suggesting Furmark as that will only saturate the VRMs, your screenshots here >>92179421 >>92179644 are running the core below 1GHz.Try running Unigine Superposition and Time Spy (free on Steam by downloading 3dmark demo).
Is the 12700K still a good CPU?Asking because the CPU I owned before upgrading to the i7 last september was a 3700X, which I had for over 3 years.When will the 12700k start showing its age? I have it paired with CL15-3000mhz RAM & RTX 3080 on a Z690 and am quite happy with performance so far. I know I can get better synthetic performance if I OC the ram to 3600mhz, but I mostly care about 1 and .1% lows in my videogames.
>>92179869Yeah it is still good. It gets pretty close to a 12900k or 13600k in games
>>92179869A 3700X is still a good CPU
>>92179869As long as games are made for current consoles, it will never get old. So from 5 to 10 years at least.
>>92176964Based fellow A770 chad, the card is aging like fine wine with the driver support and it’s got 16gb vram
>>9217986912700k basically equals the 13600k
If Microsoft turns on my heavily OCd computer at 4am to force an update and the system catches fire, is it their fault?
>>92180263Why is your stupid computer getting hot from a simple update? User error.
>>92180263why would it catch fire?
>>92180263Lots to unpack hereAre you mentally retarded by chance
is qd-oled better than (wrgb-) oled, in terms of gaming?from ive gathered oled offers darker blacks and deeper contrasts while qd-oled offers the opposite (so it's brighter) and much more.
>>92180288>>92180367But I'm not awake to stop it>>92180345I dunno, maybe I'm goofing around with power setting in bios and my 4090 catches fire. I could've prevented it if I was present.Now my wife and kids are dead. Thanks m$
>>92180419Your 4090 won't catch fire idiot
>>92180419You must be the same dude who thought a ups was going to vent gases and kill him
>>92180263yes (pic related)
What's the state of egpus?I have a 3060 and a 2500k because I only need the GPU for ai art but I need a laptop too and was thinking of upgrading my CPU
>>92180575i wouldn't bother with it
>>92180594But I need a Thinkpad that doesn't have a U processor that's slow as HELL when I have to use my laptop outside
>>92180419>Now my wife and kids are dead.>Thanks m$youre welcome
What's the equivalent of the i5 3570k of 2021/2022 on the laptop?What laptops have a removable battery without having to desolder or remove multiple screws?
>>92180733sir this is the pc building general
>>92180749Yes, I'm looking to upgrade my PC to a laptop since I don't play video games and don't actually need to upgrade my CPU but having to manage data on a laptop and desktop sucks when you don't use the cloud.
>>92180776okay, this isn't the right thread for that
What are some free benchmarks? Both CoD and 3D Mark require buying their base applications.
>>921807853D Mark has a demo
>>92180419>power settings>bios>catching firewhat in the
>>92180799Can I find this free demo somewhere other than Steam?
>>92180776>having to manage data on a laptop and desktop sucks when you don't use the cloud.It's called an USB stick/external SSD/NAS (swap depending on your needs)
>>92180776>>92142710for laptop but /tpg/ love business/workstation laptop.
>>92180703>no sir at the endAPU YOU STUPID BASTARD YOU INSULT CUSTOMER YOUER FIARD
>>92181067NO SIR HOW CAN SHE SLAP?
less bloated and actually readable OP:>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including>MONITOR:https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)State your budget and country.>NEWSUpcoming releases: R7 7800X3D (6Apr) Phoenix Point 7040HS APURTX 4060/70RX 7600XT/7700XTRecently released:Ryzen 7950X3D & 7900X3D,G.SKILL announces 8000mt/s cl38 2x24GB RAM.>RECOMMENDED CPUsHTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: 10105Budget gaming: 12100F, 12400/F, R5 5600, 13100/F, (whichever is cheapest including mobo/ram)Extreme gaming: 5800X3D, 7700/X, 13600K/F, 13700K/F, 7950X3DBuget productivity: 7950X, 13900K/FExtreme productivity: Xeon W2400/W3400, Threadripper Pro 5000>RECOMMENDED GPUsRefrain from buying used unless they come from a trustworthy source.1080p60:RTX 3060 12GB/RX 6600XT1440p60:RTX 3060Ti/RTX 3070+Ti/RX 6700+XT/RX 6750XT4K60:RTX 3080+Ti/RTX 3090/RTX 4070Ti/RX 6800+XT/RX 6900XT/RX 6950XT4K144:RTX 4080/RTX 4090 and RX 7900XT/RX 7900XTXProduction: RTX 4090, RTX 3090 (compute+VRAM)>RECOMMENDED RAMBUDGET DDR4: 2x8GB 3200Cl16ADVANCED DDR4: 2x16GB 3600CL16BUDGET DDR5: 2X16GB 6000CL30ADVANCED DDR5: 2X32GB 6000CL30 (6400CL32 for Intel)Avoid mixing kits.>RECOMMENDED CPU COOLERshttps://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/>RECOMMENDED PSUshttps://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/>RECOMMENDED CASESYour own personal preference>RECOMMENDED SSDsIf you buy Samsung make sure to download the Samsung Magician and update the firmwareStandouts: Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus, Crucial P5 Plus, WD SN770, Kingston KC3000, WD SN850Xhttps://ssd.borecraft.com/>RECOMMENDED MONITORShttps://www.rtings.com/monitorhttps://tftcentral.co.uk/awardshttps://www.displayninja.com/buying-guide/https://www.techspot.com/bestof/monitors-22-23/Previous:>>92169199
>>92181734>>92181781has everything necessary from previous op but previous was at the 2000 character limit while this one has almost 200 characters left to add on.
>upgrade from Polaris series card to 6900XT>using chrome will randomly black screen the display and it only clears up if I move my mouseSo much for the "upgrade"
Is it normal to screw in your mobo's wifi antenna and still need to basically hold your bluetooth controller near your pc to not drop signal? if so is there anything at all i can do about this?
>>92182044bluetooth coverage isn't as far as wifi. not sure why you thought the antenna would make any difference
>>92181977Use microsoft edge or disable gpu hardware scheduling. Google your problem, it can be fixed easily.
Do not buy chinkshit NVMe drives. Lesson learned.
Any recommendations for a board and case? preferably a case on the smaller sizehttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/VTmRcb
>>92182162I assumed it was HW accel since I've heard about these cards having these issues on the latest drivers. But yeah, googling doesn't really help in this case because "6900XT black screen" will only bring up PSU related issues. Are there any other Chromium applications where I need to disable hardware accel? Like trooncord or steam?
>>92182155only cause literally everything i read said the mobo uses the antenna for both wifi and bluetooth. but if thats the case is there literally nothing i can do?
>>92182260>Nevermind. It crashed again. KEK
>>9218173432gb 6400CL32 should be in the same tier as 32gb 6000CL30 since they cost the same
probably not the greatest for 1900k and 4090 but it's okay. i got one of the cheapest 4090s on the market (tuf) so im satisfied.
>>92182585*13900kand forgot image
anyone know what 7700x costs in south korea?
>>92182770It will cost you a wife and a divorce fee.
>>92182599Overclocked cpu and stock gpu?My system scores about 3% higher for the gpu and 8% higher for the cpu at the exact same clocks as your system. Memory is at 7200mhz cl34 and vram is overclocked by +1250 though.
>>92181977it really is amazing how well those cards have held up and how stable they are compared to their newer offerings
>>92181977>>92182191Use Firefox. Chrome is dogshit for hardware acceleration on all hardware with bugs and slower performance than Firefox renderer. The only reason people still use Chrome is because of normie mob mentality.
>>92182929memory is clocked at the same speed same cl no overclocking the vram so maybe that explains it? perhaps i lost the lottery? who knowsmy gpu seldom approaches 50c and cpu seldom 70c so im not too worried. i was just curious what my system would rank
>>92183126Probably just some background tasks eating into some of your cpu/gpu clock cycles
>>92176553Any recs for a monitor to pair with a LG 27GL850? I just want to use it for web browsing mostly. Does it have to be the same refresh rate? I think I remember hearing windows has issues with different rates.
>>92183309If you want the easiest time of it, and indeed can fit it, just buy another 27GL850. You'll probably need/want to calibrate them. If you'd prefer not to match them then it doesn't really matter - just buy one that you like. Matching the refresh rate isn't strictly necessary but 144Hz panels are cheap and plentiful so I'd recommend it anyway just to avoid any risk of driver issues.
Does the 5800X3D need an infinity fabric frequency that matches memory? The BIOS just automatically set the former to 3600Mhz while the latter is at 3333Mhz, and I was telling myself that maybe this particular CPU behaved differently and this was fine.
For gaming, what should you prio GPU or CPU? By that I mean, if you have to choose between a 12400F with a 3060 TI or 3070, or a 13400F with a 3060 or 6650XT what should you focus on if you have to stay within a certain budget? The former is about 215$ more expensive. There isnt much difference in those CPUs, but there is some
>>92183578IF and memory are supposed to be synced or else you incur a latency penalty. If the BIOS did that automatically then it sounds like a bug didn't apply it correctly. If memory is 3333mhz then IF should be 1666 or 1667 some BIOS show it differently.
>>92183657The GPU. All you need for a CPU is something AMD or Intel with 8 cores, and in Intel's case 8 perf cores, preferably no e-cores.
>>92183573Yeah I checked and they're a bit cheaper now so maybe I'll just get another. On a related note since the stands for these are so stupidly huge I'll probably need a boom arm monitor stand, will any or do or is there a go to brand?
>>92183697That's what I thought. Thanks.
any good cpu cooler?good thermo pasta?
>>92183578Post your clocks. Pic rel is Ryzen Master but I'm sure you can find them in HWinfo. 3600 FCLK is impossible - if your DDR memory speed is 3600MHz then your FCLK should be half of that i.e. 1800.Answering your question in the abstract, the performance penalty (in gaming) for decoupled clocks is likely smaller on the X3D, because the large cache means fewer memory accesses, but it's still present. If you are running decoupled you should either tune it back into alignment or reduce your memory clock until it syncs automatically.
>>92183710just get an artic liquid freezer 2
>>92183762Obviously, I meant 1800. Just started tweaking my b-die kit to manage 3600Mhz memory
Is it just me or is x670e chipsets fucked? Tried to get an ASUS x670e-e mobo to work and only one DIMM slot works. Tried firmware update to get both DIMM sticks to work and still nothing.Reading that the other x670e mobos have tons of issues with DDR5 like mine. Started the replacement process but honestly wish I could just start the build over with a different chipset.
>>92183700>will any or do or is there a go to brand?Bit of both. There's tonnes of cheap ones that look like they're all made in the same factory in Fujian. I have one of those, branded Invision, and it works well enough with my own 27GL850. If you want to splash some cash then the "premium" brand to get is Ergotron.One thing you should know about mounting that monitor to an arm is that the VESA holes are recessed. You will need to either find an arm with a backplate that will fit inside the cutout or jury rig it with washers. Measure twice cut once.Finally, don't buy one of the cheap ones with minimal adjustment ranges.
will nvidia in yurop ever be a consideration again
>>92183822thank you for beta testing gweilo!
>>92183822>asusthey're not exactly shining with am5 boards
>>92183867As long as retards keep getting scared of drivers and using Windows incorrectly then Nvidia will always have a lead over AMD.
>>92183801Well like I said you want it in 1:1 for the best gaming performance. Plus, the X3D doesn't much scale with memory so there's little need to tune it to the absolute limit. Find your highest stable 1:1 and tighten the timings a bit. If that's only 1600 then so be it. No great loss. Hell, even if it can do 1900 you might still want to dial it back a bit for daily use.
>>92183980You're completely right - just doing it because muh hobby. If memory voltage has to be higher than 1.4 to run stable, then I don't want it
Poorfag here. I am renting an apartment with one bedroom, bath and living room/kitchen. I dont want to sit in the bedroom and game because it is too small, but I am afraid that the cooking will potentially damage my PC if I keep it there. Is there any way to protect my PC?
>>92184129It is the cooking ooze I am worried about, not splatter
>>92184181I have standard ventilation above the oven, but also got an air refresher with HEPA in the room.
>>92184209then just be yourself
>>92183938>using Windows incorrectlylol keep coping AMDrone
>>92176553>>RECOMMENDED RAM>Budget: 2x8gb DDR4 3600 MT/s CL18>Standard: 2x16gb DDR5 6000 MT/s CL30 (Zen4) or 6400 MT/s CL32 (13th gen)Does this mean there is no point in getting 32 RAM if don't get DDR5 or have a budget gaming PC? The difference between 16 and 32 is about 60 bucks so that doesnt seem too bad
>mfw only reason to "upgrade" from i7 3770k is m.2 ssd drivesconvince me to drop €950 on the following pieces:ryzen 5 7600x32gb corsair vengeance amd optimized ramb650m ds3h2tb crucial p3 plusnoctua nh-u12asafe to continue using a 10 year old evga 650w bronze plus psu?
>>92184431Sure, since you askedYour.computer in ancientYou want the bestWhy not get the new shit? Be ahead of the packPower supplies can come with protections
>>92184431>convince me to drop €950no, faggot. if you want to continue using a slow as shit hdd, no skin off my bones. if anything, please don't upgrade. more left in stock for folks who actually want to upgrade their systems.
is 13600kf enough for 1440p?
Hey guys, my cheap case's front header doesn't have vcc and gnd pin for the USB, is this safe to plugin? The case only has pic related and thr regular power/reset switchs and hdd/power leds
>>92185047The mainboard's manual said you need to plugin the vcc and gnd pins but I don't have those
>>92184989How braindead are you
Can't seem to get my CPU stable with EXPO turned on in OCCT. Ram runs fine in memtest86 without errors running at that speed yet OCCT starts giving out errors after running for a few minutes.I'm running the stock cooler cause I didn't want to bother ocing. Running the Trident Neo 5 6000mhzc30 kit, which is on the QVL list.Haven't tried loosening the timings, but without expo OCCT doesn't give any errors.
>>92185219r u an android girl??
>>92185288What motherboard? Some boards like b650 asus boards tend to have issues with expo.
>>92185315Gigabyte B650M AX, which is odd cause techpowerup tested it and they were quite positive with it's memory performance, though I did have to upgrade my BIOS before I could post
>>92176948The R&D invested in making high end CPUs and GPUs isn't gone to waste though.Pretty much like car manufacturers using R&D from racing cars to make consumer grade cars.
>>92184085>If memory voltage has to be higher than 1.4 to run stable, then I don't want itShould be fine for B-die.Hell my stock XMP is 1.45v.
>PC is 7 years old and in the process of dying, i.e random blue screens, heavy fan noises, GPU sag>Could build a new rig now, but doing so would mean missing out on better architecture like Ryzen 5 or Meteor Lake without wasting money on current gen stuff>Even AyyM5 socket isn't a safe choice is the first iteration of those motherboards still has issues which will most likely be gone with the next chipset waveI hate the "just wait for better stuff" meme.
>>92185047if the case was made in the last 5 years, yes it's safe. if it's an older one, time to upgrade.
>>92176616Its a nice case, would recommend
>>92185555May I ask why? Modern case has better design for better grounding (lead the electric to the ground?) Its is a new case but made in china tho, so I guess I will pass this usb thingy just to be safe
>>92185635>Its is a new case but made in china thoeverything you use is made in china
>>92179545>so i have bought a new mobo because i cant bios update mine to 5800x3dfuck i almost had that problem but after already buying the 5800x3d and booting the pc with it inside lol, thankfully a cmos clear made it work. pain
>>92185654Yeah but we have this china and that china.
>>921856545800x3d is fucking black magic, a chip this good and this cheap, man AMD is on fire. Too bad this will make them increase the cost even more
How many USB ports do I need for VR? Don't have a particular headset in mind yet.
why do people here recommend changing things in bios over ryzen master
>>92185707Have you seen the loading time on that thing
>>92185707because why would i use ryzen master when i can use the bios
OP faggot make a new thread I have a very important question to ask in the new thread.And if soiboys itt can't answer my super hard question properly I consider this "pc building" expertise useless since you clearly a bunch of clowns who can't even into computer parts etc. My question will be a hard decision making question. Be prepared and I mark it as such.
>>92185799shut up clown
>>92185804Shut it mommy boi
>>92185333You could try to downgrade the bios 1 version down. It might help memory oc if the latest AGESA borked something.
>>92185799If its so important, you better make the first post on the new thread if not we'll ignore you for the faggot you are
>>92185827What if your mobo brick while flashing?Can you undo the damage?
>>92185845with the right hardware, yes
>>921843018GB ddr5 sticks are gimped
>>92185845>brickBoards with bios flashback or dual bios can be recovered in many cases. Otherwise your only option would be to rma or use an external bios flasher
>>92176553Hey guys,I'd like to buy a Z690 DDR4 Motherboard to pair with my future Intel Core i5-13600K. The problem is that I don't know anything about mb, do you guys have any advice ? What should I go for ? Btw I'm going for a Z690 instead of a Z790 to spare some money for a better monitor
>>92186003z690-a pro d4just remember you'll need to use bios flashback since it probably won't have a bios version with 13th gen support ootb
>>92185827Can you downgrade bios, I do have bios flashback? I just came home and memtest is still running, no errors. Damn, kinda regret going AM5 instead of AM4, though it might improve later on. I'm wondering what other settings I could try, perhaps setting the soc voltage a bit higher would help with the memory.
>>92184301If you intend whatever you build to last a few years then you may as well get 32.
>>92186029>Can you downgrade bios, I do have bios flashback?That depends on the mb model. I can't say since I don't own the same board as you.>perhaps setting the soc voltage a bit higher would help with the memorySoC voltage sweetspots. If its too high or too low, it'll cause stability issues. It needs to be within a range that'll work right for your cpu at your target memory speed.
>Want/need to upgrade my 2tb storage>PC works great, don't want to fuck it upguess i'll be deleting shit every other day
>>92186107just pay a tip to a more experienced friend to do it for you or get an >external if you're that much of a pussy ass
>>92186120I'll muster up the courage eventually, just had to whine on a vietnamese kayaking forum
>>92186147And it's called a paddleboat
>>92184319My legacy. It's made by Subaru I think.
RTX 4060, 4060Ti and 4070 are all going to be absolute MASSIVE flops aren't they.
>>92186305whats wrong with that, if they flop nvidia will have to do better next timenot like there's any good shit to use those cards on
>>92186305good maybe they won't be so fucking arrogant next time
Hello,I want to upgrade my old ram corsair vengeance lpx 2666 16Gigs to 32Gigs 3600 CL16My choises are the following:Gskill ripjaws V ($110) https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/184/1562831784/F4-3600C16D-32GVKC-SpecificationKingston Fury ($105) https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KF436C16RB1K2_32.pdfGskill trident Z/ trident Z neo ($135) https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/166/1562743478/F4-3600C16D-32GTZRC-Specification / https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/326/1562840211/F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC-SpecificationWhich one should i get?CPU: R7 5800X3DMotherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus ProBios ver F63fMotherboard QVL:https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_b450_4L4D_matisse.pdf?v=a0a08d71b3b84f0182d326e14d5c21feit hasnt been updated since OCT 2021Ripjaws are in there but the 2x8 modelTrident Z are also in there but the 4x16 mdoelKingston are not in it, there are the old HyperX modelsI'm leaning towards the Ripjaws sice they have lower timings thatn the Fury at the same price and i dont care about rgb.Also what is the difference between the Ripjaws and the trident z? better controllers better memory modules?
>>92186305Wait for 50 series
>>92186374Imagine knowing this stuff
>>92186305The 4070ti is already questionable.
>>921863054070 will cost more than a 6800xt but perform the same if not worse
>>92186305>rtx 4050>100 tdp>16pin cablecant wait
>>92186374I'd get 3600 cl14 b-die from aliexpress then apply manual OC, Asgard 2x8gb kits go between $80-$100.
>>92186487You forgot:> weighs 3 kg
>>92185799Bake it yourself you arrogant faggot nigger
>>92186488it takes 2 months to get orders from aliexpress where i live, those 3 options are the only ones i can find in stock locally
Looks like OPs back
What is the cheapest board that won't gimp my 13900K performance?