completely fucking tainted ibymbybmyl by listening to it every time on the come up lol 8(

https://vocaroo.com/17Ji3CAuwk5t

>>92134124
Nord has forsaken us. Why didn't they ever make a Modular G3?

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>>92134515
too busy making shit for working musicians

>>92134515
Post 2015 nord has been a big let down. they have always been tech forward, one of the first hardware VA synths, digital modular and physical modeling drum brains. Yet they seem to only cater to player pianos now.

Cancelled their modular, canceled the nord lead, completely botched nord drum by connecting the pads. And wtf were they thinking with the niche proprietary monitors that attach to their electric pianos?

tfw will never have a physical modeling drum machine with iconic nord buttons and a wooden pitch bend thingy :(

Feel pretty dumb for not habitually saving midi from previous songs as part of my user library t b h

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>>92134749
upscaled

So if I wanted to put my music out there do I just make a bandcamp page and post, or is there more to it. Do need to copyright music or some shit I don't know

>>92135565
no just post it it's yours bro it happens automatically lol

>>92135470
Archive everything. Delete nothing. Make no backups (because no free space).

>>92135565
honestly when im ready to put shit out im not going to wait. if you have something you think is good dont hesitate just put it out who cares. i have no idea how it works

>>92135609
I have my archiving process pretty solid imo, but actually curating a library of material to reuse has been a continuous process
~__~

>>92135565
You have the copyright the moment you create something, but it's only as valid as your ability to prove it in court, so keep your projects or something.
You also need to promote it. If no one hears it, putting your music online will be kind of pointless.

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>>92134124
Is anyone able to identify this hi-fi speaker set from this old image mid-90s?

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>>92135517

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These won't ever go down in price, will they?

>>92135667
What do you think of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4evhTCGfjDc
(there are english subtitles)

I'm too lazy to do it, but I like the idea of "standardizing" your track ideas and putting them all into one project where they can be recombined and mix-matched with parts from other songs.
I think a more flexible system could be to make your tracks in their own projects and after that you make a separate version for the sketchbook project that's decomposed into its fundamental elements so they can be recombined for easy access and generating ideas, but you can also go into the real project and work on the full version if you wanted.
One issue though, is keeping things in key. Maybe when you make the deconstructed version you transpose it to a common key that everything in the sketchbook is in (with perhaps something that can transpose everything to a different key)? Not sure if that would work well.

>>92134124
god dammit why do you have to torment me with pictures of the clavia g2 modular? that was by far the greatest synth I've ever owned, and clavia KEKED us. where's the fucking g3 clavia? nobody needs another fake fucking organ. ps, i fucking hate you

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>>92135851
I tried keeping similarly large projects when I first started trying to organize, but it didn't really mesh with my workflow or style(s) of music.
One thing I did keep up from that era though is using lines of session view to indicate a cohesive section of a song though.
It seems like a great idea for techno for sure.

The system I eventually settled on basically serves the same purpose, it's just more compartmentalized (picrel).

I'm not sure if it's just not common knowledge or if other people just don't care but I don't think i've ever seen a screenshot of somebody with ableton linked in the sidebar- before "current project" was added (in 9 or 10?) you had to navigate there yourself, but you can also drag in MIDI/audio/fulltracks/full(ish)projects into your current session from other folders.

>key
90~% of my projects are rooted in E or A (guitar brain/speaker response optimized lawl) so swapping stuff is pretty easy ime. Also it's best to label things of course.

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I am this >>92122842 retard who bought a busted Minilogue xd. It looks like I am just going to get a refund as they will not replace it for some reason. But even just a few days of fiddling with this thing has fired a passion.

I am considering a more powerful analogue synth to give more room to grow and learn on. Do the gentlemen have any opinion of the Prologue 16? I greatly admired the quality and sound of the Minilogue and this seemed like a good option. Will this be too much for a beginner? Are there other synths around this price range that I should be considering?

>>92136256
Oh so you keep one monthly "project" folder and every song is an als file inside of that?
Do you make incremental saves/versions?
What are those numbers (like "3_0" or "X_1") in the file names?
When you want to flesh a song out, do you make it into its own folder, or do you keep it in its montly folder even after finishing it?

>>92136423
>What are those numbers (like "3_0" or "X_1") in the file names?
These monthly folders started with the intention of it being only sound design and actually has its own logic outside of a normal song (where 1_0, 1_1... and so on would be incremental saves usually)-

Anything that starts with a number is something sound design related, but any progressive saves aren't usually updates of the previous.
E.G anything that's 2_X is some kind of drum project but they're not related.
(Actually 1_0 is always just a place to make new synth presets and 2_X is always drums, it just turned into a habit.)
X_anything is a song I decided to not continue.
Z... usually it's some kind of update or vocal session that I don't feel like adding to an old project for various reasons and I need to stop using this categorization t b h.
Any song I'm going to flesh out gets its own folder.

>>92136664
Cool, thanks for sharing.
Noisia also have a similar month-based system.
https://youtu.be/DyUJg2XrH-Q?t=468

>>92135851
>>92136256
You shouldn’t work from one project folder because it combines all audio/etc into one big folder and will be a nightmare if every need access to those without opening a project.

>>92136815
Haha look at these nerds using FM8
Professionally approved system!
I need to start bouncing out bass shots more consistently <.<

>>92137181
I’ve been doing it for a while and it’s helped a lot.
... also there’s a browser bro

>>92135851
I love the idea of having an audio sketchbook, but the thought of having a large project file makes me nervous.
>>92136256
>Obsidian
Nice.
I dream of using this to make a simple relational database of my projects/ideas with embedded audio samples and the whole shebang.

>>92137855
>but the thought of having a large project file makes me nervous
https://youtu.be/YYUtNdFwMuQ?t=131

Does anybody happen to know (if it’s known) what amp Nick Reinhart played during the sessions with Death Grips? I’ve seen the pedalboard/equipboard/andys OG stash (you never know) and I don’t expect to nail any of those tones but it would be nice to narrow down the reference points...
I feel re-enthused about playing and resampling guitar after today,,,,.

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>>92137919
fucking LOL

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>>92138000
i only listened to him with tera melos before death grips, but i think the amp is the least of your concerns. his main gimmick is having a million delays all tuned to specific timings from slapback to specific notes. he used to use a peavey 6505 that peavey gave to him, not sure when it died on him but he replaced it with a jcm800 inside the peavey combo.

he's done a lot of videos by now and talked about his amps. in the second vid, he has an amp shed he shows with some jazz choruses and other things he's acquired.
https://youtu.be/0At3diei6_Y?t=586
https://youtu.be/81--1mu69vA?t=2895

>>92140540
Yeahhhh I really just wanted a base to experiment from close to the more straight forward tones (the distorted sound on most of Jenny Death etc) and thought it would be worth asking here.
I have an M5 so have access to a decent amount of those delays/filters actually :3

Thanks, I hadn’t seen that second video.
Very much appreciate that he name drops Ian Mckaye talking about the JCM lol

>>92134949
I thought people were generally pretty enthousiastic over the latest nord drum? Agree the pad situation sucks but it also sucked in the previous versions cuz it had some stupid proprietary (ethernet??) connector. I'd really have liked to hook up those pads to my nord modular, they look like by far the best drum pads you can get.

>>92135851
I think it would negatively impact cohesion of my tracks if I just combine shit that didn't emerge together. That said my tracks are usually dead simple in terms of number of parts (and in terms of everything else too :^))
I do like the sketchbook idea in general and I have it in various forms (loops on the sampler, notes/chords written down, short midi sequences, throwaway recordings, synth patches etc..) but it's not unified at all.

>>92136397
that thing is 3k dude I would recommend to just get another minilogue or maybe a deepmind, slowly add some monosynths and fx boxes, and maybe a digital polysynth as well.
At that price there's a lot of options, I would definitely look at the Prophet or OB-6 before some turbo minilogue (I have a monologue myself), Vermona Perfourmer, Analog Four (keys version), 4 poly-chained behringer neutrons, maybe even eurorack..
For real though just get another minilogue XDXDXD

>>92136397
The Prologue has the same synth engine AFAIK, you get more voices but you lose the sequencer, so it’s even less complicated than the Minilogue XD

The rival of the Prologue in this price range is the Prophet Rev2, maybe you’ll like it more

>>92141617
But yeah, as the other Anon said, just get another Minilogue XD lol

>>92140540
>his main gimmick is having a million delays all tuned to specific timings from slapback to specific notes
Sounds intriguing do you have an example?
is it like Hella?

>>92134515
>When we made the Nord Modular, we had a very nice community around it, but the demands from that community were increasing all the time so the work developing a system like that takes a lot of software engineers. We were draining the company on the R&D department, for a very small market. So we almost killed ourselves. After that we said no more modular systems.
>We still use the modular system in our work, almost daily. It’s very important to me. We use it almost like a laboratory; when you’re thinking of an idea for a new synthesiser you can use that to build it up, so it’s still a good system. I want to improve it but if I even whisper about improving it my software engineers and my partner go crazy…
https://web.archive.org/web/20150406152529/http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/in-pictures-inside-nords-stockholm-factory-613549/3

>>92141800
It’s math like hella, but Tera Melos is comparatively low key imo.
I haven’t listened completely through either of their discographies but of what I’ve heard, drugs to dear youth has those types of delays.

That reminds me of the warp mode on the ddl6 actually.... I get that it’s practically unusable for most people but I wish they didn’t just abandon it wtf.
Also mine does this weird thing where the delays come in early when it’s not in the effects loop or something like it doesn’t keep time properly? Idk what’s up with it but I swear it wasn’t like that at first and it’s always been on an adapter so it’s not a power thing...

>>92134949
>tfw the Nord Lead 4 is kill
In my head, this was still a recent synth…

okie I found some 5150 responses tomorrow is gonna be so epic bros I feel it

>>92142199
>In my head, this was still a recent synth…
>2014 was 20 years ago
I can't believe it

Dae remember that awkward moment when the tiny analog synth bang started where everybody and their mom was saying "oh this new synth is going to be a classic in ten years! They don't sound great to us now but they'll be highly sought after? Remember the 303? 808 bro? You'll see!"
and now....

>>92143066
That was a great time in synth history, I still cherish my MFB Nanozwerg

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>>92134124
protracker master race.

>>92141450
Yes the Ethernet sucked, but forcing pads on everyone was worse. It became a massive unit. The nord drum 2 still resales for higher than nord drum 3p.

>>92143104
>MFB Nanozwerg
>it's real and not a made up nonsense name
kek

>>92140439
that looks funky. never heard of this tracker before. apple 2gs is one of the best machines apple ever produced until G powerpc series.

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>make song with any workflow
>pay no attention to any music theory
>just what comes natural
>check the key afterwards
>harmonic minor
>every time, no exception

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>>92141605
>>92141617
Thank you for the advice. I am not balking at the price although that is likely my upper limit for now. I have looked at the prophet and am considering it but I am concerned that it may actually be too much for me starting out. The prologue seems nice in that aspect as the Minilogue was very intuitive for me to kind of pick up and make interesting noise. Where I really lack knowledge is what the first anon said. about adding things to the setup. I am worried that if I want to add anything, I will have blown a lot on a prologue or something and not have everything I would want. I will continue to think about this and probably check the thread again this afternoon to see if anyone else has opinions. Thanks again for the advice, a lot to consider.

>>92143891
I forgot to mention and it might sound silly but I was really enthralled with the oscilloscope that was in the minilogue and know that I would miss that. I am aware that I could buy a separate scope that is probably infinitely better but it is something to note.

it's dance music
https://voca.ro/1loJqhQzTVOR

>>92143891
The Prologue is just an expensive Minilogue XD with a bigger keyboard and more voices, so save your money and just get another Minilogue XD. You’ll “upgrade” later if you want.

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>>92138000
okay so not in this video, the earthquaker guy just asked him what overdrive he used with the grips and Jenny Death was all this:
https://youtu.be/knXt3hu-p1M?t=154

Basically a spin on a compilation of ts808 mods.

Not sure what i'm looking at here and it likely won't lead to an immediate application like "durr twist the curve in trash and melda haha :3" but i'm intrigued:
https://www.guitarpedalx.com/news/news/a-brief-hobbyist-primer-on-clipping-diodes
https://www.reddit.com/r/diypedals/comments/die2lx/vi_curves_for_diodes_and_other_semiconductors/

All this and the only thing I learned in the past hour is what mode on on this dumb little kuassa vst is *probably* just straight ts808 because they don't even fucking say. I just had to be different and get an OCD clone pfffftttt

>>92136397
>Prologue 16
if you want voices, get a used deepmind and save money

I think I finally got the Orbital Lush sound down if anyone cares. Rather than using Surge I though I would try my JD-08 and I'm pretty happy with the results.
https://vocaroo.com/1lPfTiqd9kZv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlSgFom9SxU
Roland magic I guess.

>>92145280
>https://vocaroo.com/1lPfTiqd9kZv
pretty damn close! could turn the attack down a LITTLE BIT on yours I'd say, and maybe a small filter (envelope maybe?) to cut out some of the highs

>>92145351
Yeah there's still some fine tuning to be made. Not sure if I should reduce the phaser-esque effect. I kinda like it but the original is a bit more raw. Really getting there.

>>92145375
you're close enough now that you can either tweak it to be dead on or you could just try your own shit from it, either way he'll yeah bruther

>3100 in checking
>1000~ in credit cards
Being patient is so fucking hard man. I have the money to buy the thing I want it's just better to wait. I hate my life

>>92145679
What thing?

>>92145739
New laptop. It's boring only making music when I'm home. All my spare time at work even if I'm reading manga I'm just thinking about how much time I'm wasting not making a song

>>92145826
Buy an iPhone instead

>>92145887
Why?

>>92146095
So I can post Satanias

>>92146095
Lots of great music apps

>>92146124
Kek

>>92146144
I use poweramp on android I'm okay thanks for the suggestion though.

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>>92146175
>poweramp on android

>>92146175
I mean apps for making music

>>92146238
Ohhh I see what you mean yeah there are a few but I refuse to use more apple than are actually necessary. I feel dirty enough with the MacBook. I don't think I could handle having an iPhone.

>>92146212
It's the only flac player that worked on my flip :/

>>92146340
god fucking dammit

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>>92146357
Gg once again

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patch on the nord modular to tune keys to specific integer ratios
so I can try tonality diamond stuff etc...
https://vocaroo.com/1oEvC0Bxs2J8
A very simple tune modulating between an utonality (ratios with the same divisor) and an otonality (ratios with the same numerator) with some shared notes.

>https://vocaroo.com/1myxTT1rmJs4
How bad is it?

>>92147030
Pretty nice. I feel that maybe the hats around the 1:00 minute mark could use some more diversity. Also maybe some distortion or compression to make the kick and snare hit harder.

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>>92147002
=these chords basically
modulation possibilities are pretty limited in this system (compared to 12TET) but at least you can take each interval between unity (1/1 == 3/3) and a ratio as both an otonality and an utonality (one being the lines from bottom left to top right, and the other from top left to bottom right).

What monitor speakers do anons use?
the right speaker is just dead now, so i wanna buy decent speaker around 500 dollars (a pair 1000 dollars)
Eve audio has good sound and worked for multi purpose but it's too fragile ;-;

>>92147253
Superlux HD-681 B
not comfy but great frequency response

>>92147110
Interesting. I was familiar with Euler's Tonnetz, but not the tonality diamond.

>>92147253
Gonna buy a pair of Genelecs soon

>>92147559
here's some more info I just found
https://www.chrysalis-foundation.org/musical-mathematics-pages/meyer-diamond/

>>92147253
Genelec or Nuemann for that range. Both are built like tanks and very common in the industry, will often see studios unload a bunch at once for cheap resale. I recently got 8040B pair for under 1000 on reverb.

>>92147030
Wouldn't be out of place in Cyberpunk 2077's radio.

>>92141800
he covers it a bit in the first vid, just watch the whole section desu. he goes through all of the pedals
https://youtu.be/0At3diei6_Y?t=820
https://youtu.be/0At3diei6_Y?t=1336
https://youtu.be/0At3diei6_Y?t=1763


the red panda tensor pedal is also something that's kinda popular for these weird tape stop or delay effects, has an expression pedal. in his setup he actually has a pressure expression pedal taped or glued onto a rocker expression pedal so he's controlling two different things at once
https://youtu.be/n4WpA-BwGuE?t=1372

>>92147287
>>92147657
>>92148115
thanks for hints! i will check genelec’s speaker

>>92135876
what was so good about it?

>>92147002
Is that last movement a V-I with a 7#9 chord?

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>>92149744
let's see, the last one is definitely I major (1/1, 5/4, 3/2 in ratios), the chord before that is the same 1/1 and 3/2 i.e. a perfect fifth, with 6/5 in-between and 12/7 above. The 6/5 is just 15 cents sharp of 3 semitones (see pic related), and 12/7 is 33 cents (more than half a semitone!) sharp of 9 semitones. So it's actually just a I-I with a minor chord + a (very sharp) diminished 7th (which I gather is normally quite dissonant but probably less so in this just tuning). There could be some inversion which makes more sense though.

>>92151257
yeah b13. I always confuse them

>>92149248
ah wicked thanks
might as well just use dblue glitch though lmao

>>92149248
>pitch shifted delay
one of my fav fx

>>92143211
IIGS has the same Ensoniq synthesizer chip that was in all the EMU synths.

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Thank you best buy. This will be a productive weekend. Will be fun to get back into logic after using ableton for the last week and a half. Going to try and knock 2 songs out tonight. Have a good Friday

Bump

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>>92149444
Tell us which monitors you chose in the end

>>92152873
Cheers bro, enjoy your time in Logic

>>92146175
How is Poweramp better than Vinyl? Aside from being maintained and actually working on later versions of Android (I'm never going to updoot from Android 9 on this phone but I'll have to get a new phone eventually). I used to use it for a while during its trial period and it was decent but then I found Vinyl.

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>>92154422
I haven't used or heard of Vinyl. What features does it have? I'm not too sure how the advanced options work for these apps. I usually just leave them alone and turn on forced Mono if they have the option. I bought poweramp cause the trial wasn't too bad. I remember pirating it but something was fucking up I don't remember what so I just said fuck it cause they gave me a coupon. I only listen to flac anyway but I was trying to find a flac player that worked like Spotify across multiple devices but no luck with that

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>>92154501
Vinyl is a free and open source fork of Phonograph. It has the same features but none of them are locked behind a paywall, so you can have file system navigation too.
>What features does it have?
A simple and decent looking interface with no memes, folder access, and a decent lock screen player. You can move/schedule songs pretty intuitively. I think it also has a simple EQ (probably not as powerful as Poweramp). I'm pretty sure it can play FLACs too, though I always convert my music to ogg on my phone because it's not like I can tell the different with my shitty earphones. I don't think it has any special features other than not being shitty, which already makes it better than most alternatives. The project's dead though and it doesn't work on the latest Android version.
>flac player that worked like Spotify across multiple devices
What does that mean? I have never used Spotify.

>>92155635
>What does that mean? I have never used Spotify.
So for Spotify with your account you can't have multiple sessions. So if I was listening to something on my PC and I need to leave I can switch the session fron my PC to my phone and continue the song without restarting.

I-I'm gonna upload a track. I'm gonna do it. But where do I upload to and what's the latest theme? I don't know. But I made a piece just for you anons. It's acidy yet chill, somthing for you.

Where do I upload? It's a DSD file, I can upload it to my archive.org account. I don't record in PCM just DSD so even though it's like 5 minutes long it's a HUUUGE file.

Can't get that DC bass with PCM.

>>92157710
You can use catbox.moe for files but convert it to an mp3 then use vocaroo for us to listen.

>>92157747
>mp3
kinda kills the whole point of recording in perfect DSD, maybe I'll upload it to archive.org

>>92157768
If it's going to be on the album it will have to be converted to PCM first anyway.

>>92157923
Well I will leave that to the experts. I record single takes in stereo using DSD.

>>92157953
You're better off converting it yourself to a wav file that you're happy with, rather than to leave the conversion to us.

https://vocaroo.com/1kq1cBbnAbP1
logicfag back again. didnt get around to ableton tonight cause i spent most of the afternoon download shit again but I'm now 110% ready for the future for now. this track is a lot longer than i thought and its kinda boring. didnt do any mixing cause im sleepy. sorry i dont have time to respond to other peoples tracks i will in the morning.

I'm seriously considering Ableton Live (lite) over Reaper, but I'm still a little nervous.

Ableton Live (lite)
+ Session view for experimenting with ideas without fucking around on a horizontal time line
+ Defaults are set and won't lead you down a rabbit hole of customizing things
- No notation view

Reaper
+ Notation view
+/- Customizable
+ Can download a clean copy for free and use it forever on any computer
- Too customizable / requires set up

It sucks that Ableton doesn't have notation view, but I think I can live with it.
My questions is: is session view a decent way to experiment/sketch out ideas? Trying out different ideas on a horizontal timeline stresses me out because you need to do tons of horizontal scrolling and copying and pasting and inserting space and whatnot. Busy work that shouldn't be necessary.

I know the lite version of Live is limited to 8 tracks and 16 scenes in session view, but that doesn't bother me. Limitations are great and I consider them a blessing.

I suppose another fear I have with Ableton is that you need to register your software to be able to access your project files. What happens in the future when you can't register? Do you at least have access to the midi and audio clips?

>>92159330
Why don't you pirate the Suite?

>>92159373
1) Options overwhelm me; I see the 8 track limitation as a blessing. I don't need all the instruments and plugins either.
2) I'm paranoid about what I download and install now that I do online banking and investments on my computer.

>>92159419
If it's a question of how producing with the different selections of options will make you feel, trying them out for at least a few days is the only way to know for sure which one is best for you.

>>92159710
Ok... I found my Keystep box and it looks like I should be able to get a Live Lite serial if I register *fingers crossed*
I only have 6GB free on my hard drive. Hopefully that'll work for the install and then I can delete all the samples and junk I won't need.
I'm scared of change, but I've been watching the MusicRadar tutorials for Live Lite and it looks all right.

>>92159330
fyi hitting the record button while trying ideas in session view records them in arrangement view.

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>>92160725
What? You're confusing me, bro.
I know you can record yourself playing clips/scenes from session view into the arrangement view when you're ready to print an arrangement to the horizontal timeline -- but what you're saying makes it sound like anytime you record a clip in session view, it will also exist somewhere in the arrangement view.

I also forgot that Ableton doesn't work on Linux and I'm not looking forward to Windows 11. More pain.
Groove templates seem cool as fuck though.

>>92159330
Have you considered our lord and saviour: Renoise?

>>92161591
Yes; Reaper + Renoise was/is my dream. I've been thinking about custom hardware + scripts (Renoise tools) to make a groovebox-style controller for Renoise; think Korg EMX / Deluge. I just need to take a break and keep it simple right now.

ring a bell (I skipped doing that actually) (it was probably a synth but I got it so) // turned off

https://vocaroo.com/1o4Ivs1T2qbv

Slept all day... again! Gonna take a nap until the sun comes up again I guess.... and maybe another after that idk,,,,

>>92161591
Does renoise have sales? I would buy it if it's cheaper. Don't want to commit to full price as I downloaded the demo a few times and I give up learning it too quickly

Goodnight bump
Won’t sleep all day again today I promise haha...

>>92163475
I don’t remember seeing any kind of sales for Renoise but it’s quite cheap already. Among the cheapest DAWs of all. And the demo is very generous.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAmw-TTG2Ds
thoughts?

>>92165743
Cringe but might be fun depending on the price

>>92147002
How do you even set this stuff up? Everything I read doesn't tell you how to translate those ratios to cents. Even chatGPT is messing up, saying how you get an interval of 300.

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How do you go about making a melody as a beginner with 0 theory knowledge? I want to play something on my keyboard but when i read notes on paper it makes no sense. The best I can do is hear the difference but I can't hear a song and know if a chord is a C or D yet. I want to play something cool on my keyboard.

>>92164764
Okie I will STEAL some classic hardcore progressions and resample silly delay and filter sounds today!
No sleep

i killed a mosquito with my electric hammer and for some strange reason its wings wouldn't stop flapping. i could grab it by the legs and put it next to my ears and i would be able to hear the buzzing
i tried to sample it, of course

>>92168060
https://somasynths.com/ether/
to sample the zapping part

>>92167236
Just make a melody in your head and reproduce it in your DAW? How is this even a question?

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>>92167236
https://voca.ro/12d3aBE8P2xe
Take a melody
Alter it in phrases, for different emitions
Repeat throughout song
Boom

>>92165743
would choose the sonicware liven lofi over this I think but I haven't looked in depth

>>92165928
It's similar to the ratios you use for FM synthesis, based on partials=harmonics=overtones. On the nord modular you can use the partial generator to get a control signal that lets you offset an oscillator to that partial (I always use these in FM patches as well), and for the under number you invert/subtract that signal. (so basically it follows the principle that addition and subtraction in logarithmic space (which is what cents/semitones are) is multiplication in frequency space (hertz)).
You can probably do something similar in max/pd but also you could just use something like Scala.

>>92165928
>how to translate those ratios to cents
>The formula to calculate the number of cents between given frequencies f1 and f2:
>cent = 1200 × log2(f2 / f1)

>>92168741
so in python it's just math.log2(ratio)*1200

>>92160781
>I also forgot that Ableton doesn't work on Linux
thank god i decided to learn reaper instead of ableton when i was still wintoddler myself so i dont have this problem on linux

>>92168839
Nta but why don't you like ableton? Everyone here seems to suck it off hard

>>92168741
>>92168752
Can I do [1200 * ln(f2/f1)/ln(2)] instead?

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>>92168741
1200*log(3/2) is 211.309510867
1200*log(2/2) is 0.
Not only that, is the interval supposed to be 211? If so, that's such a huge jump that doesn't sound good at all.
>>92168653
Ah I see. Thanks anon, I was trying to set something similar in sunvox by fintuning it, but if I go to stuff like 211 it gets messy.

>>92169176
Bruh, wut? Not that anon, but that's not what he wrote.
f1 = frequency one; e.g. 440hz for standard A
f2 = frequency two; e.g. whatever note you're going to.
The difference in cents between those two frequencies is calculated by
1200 x log2(f2/f1)

You calculated the difference between 3 hz and 2 hz in cents as 211.3095...

>>92169662
I'm sorry, I was confusing it with something else I saw.

>>92169176
>1200*log(2/2) is 0.
Which is correct, a ratio of 1 means you stay at the same note and the interval between two identical notes is 0 semitones.

>>92169176
nice do tell if you get it to work in sunvox, I also use it occasionally

>>92169749
Nuh, bruh. Don't be sorry.
I'll tell you what's confusing: Sunvox.
Also, I'm sure you know, but just to be explicit, typically log by iteself implies base 10 and the equation anon provided is log base 2.

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Oof. Does Ableton Live not have portamento in the piano roll like FL Studio?

Bump

Found the noises obnoxious non guitar sounding sound for today’s song :^)

>>92171111
portamento is a synthesis technique not a proprietary piano roll feature you fucking brainless child

>>92168884
>/g/
>sucking off anything proprietary
reaper gets away with it at least because it's begware happened to have linux binary blob. but other than that, no. you sooner see ardour shills on /g/ or straight up tracker users and demosceners popping up here and there than you see cuckelton users

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>>92171267

https://vocaroo.com/1aUeyTVUHRti
first time trying to play keys on my own over a loop. i didnt go in and draw anything or try to fix it i just turned on the arp and found sounds i thought were cool. this was the ableton track today. it honestly felt cool to play some amateur shit

>>92162261
nice DG sample

>>92158269
someone lmk if they like this pls

>>92171267
portamento is just an instrument technique

>>92134328
Sounds like some vocaloid rock song. me goosta

I keep getting my hotkeys mixed up going back and forth between DAWs

Recently my patterns keep ending up 14 beats long and other multiples of 7. What to do? Will I have to look into how 7/4 works?

>>92174132
You should learn that but the more useful thing would be to get a hold of yourself and learn to think in patterns of 4 lmao

>>92174192
I don't know why it happens. I think of a melody, input it in renoise and boom, it's 56 lines (8 lpb). it's really simple stuff too. maybe I should start with drums always haha

Is using sample loops in an old school tracker cheating? even if you make it yourself?

>>92174282
Are you sure it’s actually in some kind of time and you’re just not counting?

>>92174506
No and asking yourself if something is “cheating” in music is arguably making things harder on yourself for no reason (the only argument being that taking the easy way too often disincentivizes you from learning)

>>92174132
Add empty space at the end so it's a multiple of 4

>>92174664
>No and asking yourself if something is “cheating” in music is arguably making things harder on yourself for no reason (the only argument being that taking the easy way too often disincentivizes you from learning)
Fair enough. I have a pretty sick loop and I don't feel like trying to recreate it with multiple sample points.

>>92174664
as long as it's on the tracker lines it's impossible for it to not be in "some kind of time", no?

>>92174672
then it doesn't loop the way I expect it to

I will post an example tomorrow I guess

>>92174132
Descend further down the time signature iceberg. 4/4 is incredibly boring. 7/4 is maybe a third of the way down.

>>92174759
odd signatures are a crutch. if you can't make crazy syncopated shit sound good in 4/4 it won't get better in other sigs

>>92174792
and if you can?

>>92174865
you'd be a world class talent already

>>92174894
This isn't really true is it. Literally every funk drummer on the planet can play syncopated rhythms in 4/4, and funk is one of the easier genres to drum.

>>92174929
not what's being discussed

>>92174957
You said if you can't make 4/4 sound good you won't be able to make odd signature sound good. I asked what if you can make 4/4 sound good, you said that would make you a world class talent.

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cute girly music!

https://vocaroo.com/1mO02VP05wxz

that's a guitar btw

>>92174731
Add space in the middle

>>92174997
syncopation in 7/4 is not what a funk drummer is doing in 4/4

>>92175132
It absolutely is. 7/4 is just a compound signature of 4/4 and 3/4. In the vast majority of 7/4 music either the first or last 4 beats of the bar is just a normal 4/4 bar.

The biggest proponent of 7/4 is Venetian Snares and his rhythms are based around the rhythmic vocabulary of jungle, which in turn is based off the rhythmic vocabulary of funk via sampled breaks.

>>92174731
>as long as it's on the tracker lines it's impossible for it to not be in "some kind of time", no?
when you put a basic drum beat over it, does it match or sound off ?

The week of working in ableton made me like it more than logic. I think that will be my main DAW from now on

>>92175494
Oh forgot to post song, https://vocaroo.com/15VZ5XCXmvJG

>>92175896
thats not my song though

>>92175896
demarcus?

>>92176213
It’s Demarcus 2.0 anon

Any good Serum tutorials you guys would recommend?

I want to buy a M2 MacBook Air/Pro (probably Pro) for music production, but I'm torn about the storage: 512 GB or 1 TB?

512 GB has a good price but I fear I'll feel constricted quickly. Currently I have 256 GB and it's not enough at all (can't even install certain plugins, or have to uninstall them, because they will be eating up too much storage). But 1 TB becomes really expensive to buy. Opinions?

>>92176932
I couldn’t imagine having any less than 1tb personally and I don’t even run kontakt libraries or big romplers etc.
Only you know how necessary it for your workflow

>>92176932
buy your mac, then have buyer's remorse

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>>92176932
Most Macfags I've seen have either an external drive or a NAS. Depends on if you don't leave the house or not. But if you're not going to leave the house and you're committed to the fruit meme, might as well just get a Mac Mini and get one of those docks that have an m.2 slot in them. And a NAS.

>>92177080
I obviously have an external SSD for sound libraries, etc., but currently I feel too limited even for installing plugins or programs (for example, the Arturia V-Collection takes 20 GB and it's too large for me, everything that's above 1 GB requires serious thought before installing, etc.). I just wonder if I'm not going to encounter the same problems after a while with 512 GB.

I'm very mobile, constantly moving between several countries, so a laptop is mandatory here.

>>92177312
Then it sounds like you get to pay the troll toll for the extra storage. My condolences.

>>92176932
1tb was too expensive I snagged a 512 16GB for like 1300 from best buy. I have a 5tb external I got for 100. It's HDD so it's kinda slow but honestly not a big deal

>>92177566
:(

https://youtu.be/r28i-k3mL3o
this is a cool video but i would never be able to make music if i wasnt born when i was god damn it looks so complicated

>>92178150
:)

>>92171377
why would /g/ care about non proprietary daws when they cannot contribute anything worth a shit to something's source code?

>>92181029
Posturing

>>92171377
/g/ can say what it likes. Dorico is great.

>>92152550
>was in all the EMU synths.
nah ensoniq used them in their own sampler keyboards. e-mu was their competitor.
>synthesizer chip
was just a multichannel DAC but could be used as a crude wavetable synth. can't recall what e-mu used as a DAC but it was DPCM samples and sounded better.

>>92177080
>itoddler
>having nas
>even knowing what nas is
nigga you trippin

>>92176932
local storage isn’t needed anymore, just get Dropbox biz account.

Give me one reason not to use OTT on everything

>>92171748
>>92172814
I understand why you think that, the concept comes from real instruments. However in electronic instruments, especially with midi spec, portamento is synthesis via slew.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slew_rate

>>92183363
>Because it’s just bad okay!!!111!!

Real reason: ableton multiband compressor or any other OTT type compression is better (more flexible)

>>92183363
how is OTT helping your mix?

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>>92183363
>Give me one reason not to use OTT on everything
If you want to make something sound less based, boring, and thin, you could not use OTT to achieve this.

>>92183432
>>92183363
compression bad

>>92183486
This but unironically.
multiband clipping >>>>>> any type of compression

>>92183402
>>92171748
>>92171267
>>92171111
Not him but the point is that in the FL piano roll you can specify which specific notes should be portamento'd or glided to which other specific notes while all other notes play without portamento.
But last time I used FL it only worked on image-line's own instruments and not any old vst.

compression good
https://vocaroo.com/14puLPQeRzdi

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>>92184979

>>92171111
Overlapping notes

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New to dmp; looking for gear recommendations.

I realize that the most versatile setup would probably be a DAW (live) + some midi controller but I'm pretty sure fiddling with gear is a plus for me.

Watched a couple of gear vids and I guess I'm looking for a groovebox/sampler and a small synth.

I think for the synth the microfreak seems like a good choice but the groovebox/sampler gives me trouble.

MPC One/Force/Maschine+ looks to be basically the DAW + midi controller option put into a box - not my thing.

SP-404 MKII might be a contender.

The Elektron boxes look very interesting. I assume the Digitakt with the latest update is very capable but it's hard to figure out the specific niche of each of those (Octatrack, Rytm etc.)

Shortlist atm: SmplTrek, Digitakt (those 2 because the latest updates seem great), Octatrack (pretty sure it has enough features to last me years)

>>92175973
No.

>>92175007
Really like most of the sound choices/design

>>92187151
>microfreak
get something with real keys

>>92187151
>I assume the Digitakt with the latest update is very capable
It's really not that capable if you want to use it as a phrase sampler instead of just a sample-based drum machine. Doesn't even have stereo samples, very short total sampling time etc...

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spent the entire afternoon trying to pirate ohmicide
for some reason the release on audioz doesnt work well on my machine
i mean the keygen werks but my daw doesnt detect the plugin
aaaaaaaaaaa

>>92187673
>ohmicide
holy fuck I forgot this existed
the website even still has the skrillex testemonial from over a decade ago lmao

>>92187673
I have this 1.10 from 2012 or so. No idea where I got it from.
https://we [DOT] tl/t-0r5V02SqCC
Virustotal says the installer is fine but the keygen has 36 antiviruses out of 70 calling it malware.
It's probably just a false positive like most keygens of that time, but I'd use a VM for it just in case.

>>92186353
No shit, they didn’t follow midi spec lol

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>>92187608
I think only the Octatrack from the shortlist supports longer samples. Any alternatives I might have missed?

>>92187758
thnx anon trying what you sent right now

>>92181029
I tried to merge my fruity dance plugin knock off to lmms and they have not answered yet. Its been almost 2 weeks. :(. I'll just fork it then and put it in the AUR.

>>92187899
no clue I'm not that into samplers I just happen to know about the digitakt because I recently got a syntakt
you could look at Sonicware Smpltrek, it's a bit boutique though but it looks awesome imho

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>>92187758
stuck here for some reasonnnnnnnn

>>92188006
Did you run it as administrator?

>>92188020
uh nope gonna try again

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>>92178244
>guy cutting off the lady
Kek.

>>92187899
fyi: you can't play samples back on the octatrack polyphonically, you have to stack the tracks

>>92188441
WHY WOWNT ANYBODY JUST MAKE A POLYPHONIC MELODIC/CHORD SAMPLER REEEEEE
I JUST WANT A LITTLE BOX THAT JUST WORKS EXACTLY LIKE FRUITY SAMPLERRRRR

>>92187608
elektron devices are definitely more focused on specific untitles than all-in-ones. You can do phrase style sample playback on digitakt, up to 11 sec, but really requires you to pre-edit loops to common (and 100% precise) measure lengths so you can more easily chop them via elektron’s start/stop sample values of 1-120. IMO they should have just used 1-100 value so a quarter phrase is represented by 25 instead of 30… but I guess then couldn’t do triplet chops evenly.

>>92187151
Rytm is a 8 voice combo of digitakt, and syntakt, with a little bit of digitone. You can do full songs on them, but they are very much a drum machine workflow.

>>92189152
That’s how samplers on workstations synths typically function. I believe the newer MPCs can do that too though.

>>92149493
The Nord G2 modular had midi-through, which made it immediately one of the best generative music boxes ever made. The problem with non-hardware solutions to midi-through is that vst1 and vst3 are a nightmare to deal with, and vst2 is not supported. Steinberg literally got on the web and said "fuck you, not my problem" lol.

Other virtual modulars have finally caught up as of around 2019, but it took some 15 years. Cherry Audio probably beats it now, AND you can program your own modules.

The Nord g2 Modular also had a really beautiful genetic patch modifier that would twist knobs for you, you chose parents and it would make you a dozen children...you could save them and iterate. That synth was an absolute work of art. But they stopped supporting it and for like 5 years I couldn't even plug it in. Someone finally made an OSX UI but by that time I had moved on with my crushed dreams.

I know they need to make money and all, but for gods sake just hire like two autists to hammer out a g3 with resynthesis. The world deserves it, Clavia.

>>92189485
another idea of how powerful the box was- you could make feedback loops of both midi and audio through your DAW. the little piano roll sequencer inside of it was glorious and nothing has ever worked like it again- I actually had a long conversation with Cherry Audio about how to add some of that functionality inside their piano roll module.

>>92189485
(nta) I hope you stay away from actual Eurorack cause there are seemingly limitless options beyond what you are describing. Thousands upon thousands of modules to engineer a system of your dreams without having to do more than think of the idea and press the order button, no additional programming or time sink required. Very fun stuff, rewarding too cause you are helping small businesses. Still horribly over priced though and that’s really why you shouldn’t unless you have boat moneys.

>>92189736
I have a eurorack with about 20 modules, but yeah I got off that crazy train before the big boom.

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>>92189189
Thanks for clearing up the concept, I really wasn't sure what specific role these are trying to fit.

>>92187991
The only other current groovebox/sampler that I stumbled across is the Deluge but that's very hard to come by for me (read: expensive)

>>92189833
That’s good then! Thankfully I was able to stop at my 2nd case upgraded lol

>>92189152
it's called a rompler or workstation lmao

>>92187758
is the plugin still working for you? can you give it a try? feels like i tried everything, still wont detect it

>>92190144
I had it installed years ago (probably between 2012 and 2015) on Windows Vista or 7, and I don't remember ti having any problem. Now I just have the installer.
I currently don't have a VM on my computer so I don't want to risk the infection. Sorry.

>>92190217
ah no problem
thanks for sharing at least

>>92190238
Hope you can make it work friend.
Is there a particular reason why you want Ohmicide? Maybe there are alternatives that can achieve the same goal.

Also, maybe try this:
https://we [DOT] tl/t-ZPLqglJGbv
It's the files extracted from the exe using UniExtract.
Maybe you can copy the dll or Main folder, and get it to work without the installation wizard.

>>92189885
Maybe a check out the newer Roland groove boxes. Roland are the Ogs of those, and their interface is what sparked the ideas for FL and ableton workflows.

>>92189152
When the Prophet X came out, nobody liked it because it was a hybrid rompler, but you can load your own samples in there

>>92190453
>Is there a particular reason why you want Ohmicide?
I doubt any of you /g/uys are into this but I want to learn how to make a proper speedcore kick, and it seems like a good distortion vst for that
trying what you suggested right now

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>>92190453
oh wew this time it did detect it but for some reason I can't enter the password, the .exe is not working since its extracted
anyway sorry for the bother and thnx for the help anon

Should you gainset your song before mixing, or when you start mixing?

>>92191163
You cant give up just now anon

>>92191338
mixing starts at the recording stage for me

>>92189152
Someone didn’t get the Chompi Club video yet, lol

https://youtu.be/JAmw-TTG2Ds

>it was at 1k views a few days ago
>now at 523k views
>it just popped into everyone’s feed with a brand new channel
How did they do it, bros?

>>92191623
It's the jews

>>92191623
Articles like this
https://www.musicradar.com/news/chompi-sampler-looper

>>92189189
>up to 11 sec
>mono only
even my fucking yamaha su10 from the mid 90s does better than that

>>92191623
Also I screencapped that video 4 days ago and they had only 601 subscribers. Today they have 21,900. This is the only video on their channel. WTF? How did they do it?

>>92191784
First time you see a video go viral?

>>92189264
>>92190093
oh ok thanks anons I hadn't thought of that

>>92189485
Yeah it's a big shame that the g1 doesn't let you output the midi.

>>92191796
No, I want to know *how* they did it. The algorithm pushed that thing on my screen well before it became “viral” (Wednesday it had 3,489 views and 0 comment, today it has 524,616 views and 4,400 comments).

Anyway, you know how hard it is to acquire subscribers even if one of your videos gets 200k views. Here everything just looks like it’s falling from God’s hand with zero effort. How? What’s the trick?

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>>92189706
>the little piano roll sequencer inside of it
you mean this thing? What's so great about it?

>>92191784
Kickstarter embedded plays, maybe?

>>92190671
>load your own samples in there
I would want to sample live on the thing itself though

>>92191942
You know google's whole business model is that you can give them money and they will show your shit to people, right?
Also maybe it's just a genuinely cool concept with cute graphics that got shared on a few music forums.

>>92192079
Perhaps, I should look into Kickstarter marketing… Also I screencapped their Kickstarter page 4 days ago and they had 708 subscribers there. Today they have 14,306. Obviously they spent good money to get there, but it’s also easy to blow a lot of money on ads and get zero result…

>>92191998
>you mean this thing? What's so great about it?

You can record into it and clock that recording however you want, so you can overwrite portions of your loop on the fly. you can actually run it at audio speeds too, like a really bad wavetable. I'm telling you, the g2 was engineered to high fuck.

>>92192137
Sure, they nailed it with the concept and its presentation. But still… they seem to have less success on Instagram (“only” 2,751 subs) while they post a lot more stuff there. And it bombed on Reddit with a post on r/synthesizers who got almost 300 upvotes and 300 (very dismissive) comments, and a post on r/samplers with almost zero reaction.

>inb4 it becomes Reddit favorite’s instrument when it’s finally released

So they mostly “got it” on YouTube, but I’m curious to know how to replicate that. Throwing money at Google isn’t enough.

>>92192206
Why did you make all those screencaps?

>>92192409
>mostly “got it” on YouTube,
I'm just guessing, but could it be that YouTube has a larger audience of young kids that are really drawn to that aesthetic? Kind of like how they drive thumbnails to be bright colors with close-ups of people's surprised open-mouthed faces? Like.. almost literal toddlers.

>>92192137
You can pay to be promoted by the YouTube algorithm?
I thought you could only pay to go on adsense ads.

>>92192409
The YouTube algorithm promotes things into becoming viral based on a number of metrics about the video itself, what people do once they open it (if they comment, if they share it, how long they stay watching before leaving, etc), where the views come from, who watches it (and what other videos they watched before it), etc.
It's not one technique. It's everything together, and it's very hard to predict how it will go, considering that no one knows what the algo is really like, and it's also constantly changing.
If you're interested in becoming successful on YouTube, Mr. Beast talks a lot about these practices in his interviews. He's helped a lot of smaller channels become very successful, and obviously he's the most subscribed channel (excluding brands and whatnot) so he knows what he's doing (and doesn't seem to be lying lol).

>>92191623
promotion and social media

>>92192288
ohh, I see, definitely gonna play with that in the demo

Is there any hardware (effects or synths) from the mid-late 90s to the early-mid 00s that doesn't have a software equivalent?

>>92192989
Yamaha VL
Actually it does have a software equivalent but it runs only on win ME at the latest (and with pretty big latency).

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>>92191623
Fascinating. I was wondering about that since it was suggested to me the day it went public (ok I'm also looking for a sampler) when it only had a few k views.

>>92192989

yamaha fs1r, please please make a software version

>>92193089
How can one piece of software be THIS based?

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>>92193089
>>92193228
>Search for Yamaha VL
>Click video for VL1
>Video for FS1R shows up on top in the recommendations
They're listening.

>>92192429
I’m unironically addicted to screencapping, I make 1,000 screencaps per day at least (I never subscribe, never like or never bookmark anything, I screencap it all instead)

>>92191623
STOP SHARING SO WE CAN GET ONE FFS

bros where can i pirate sausage fattner

>>92191623
>$599 full price $499 earlybird.
lmao no thanks

>>92194214
>not buying several and reselling 4x
do you not remember op-1? m8 tracker? any popular eurorack module?

>>92194104
The 32 year old screenshooter
>doesn't do anything with his computer, only uses it for screenshooting
>petabyte server rack just for storing his captures, lowers his resolution cause he was running out of space
>has to replace PrtScr key switch every week
>new addiction named after him in the dsm-5
>"AAAAHHH I'M SCREENSHOOOOOOTIIIINNNGGG" noise complaints
>didn't need to be slapped by the doctor, was born already crying cause he wasn't screenshooting
>dreams in screenshots, sleep paralysis demon is a computer without screenshot key
>has every screencap program, every key on his keyboard is a shortcut for one of them
>power button also takes screenshots
>has tics of pressing imaginary screenshot button
>periodically opens screenshot folder just to take a screenshot of it
>once held up bank at gunpoint just to be let behind the glass and take a screencap of the teller's computer
>never once in his life saw something on a screen without capturing it
>when he takes a photograph he saves a screenshot of it and deletes the original
>sends daily death threats to snapchat employees. Can't be caught, letter is made out of screenshots pieced together

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>>92194728
ahhhhh....

>>92194776
based

>>92192989
Define alternatives I guess?
Ensoniq transwave
Red Sound anything
Emu romper racks
Kurzweil vast
Kawai K5000
bunch of rare audio to visual effect gear that I forget names of but don’t even have info online

>>92194728
Kek, it’s me

>takes screencaps of his own screencaps to make really sure they’re screencapped
>has never ever be able to retrieve a specific screencap among the millions of screencaps he keeps
>the CIA hired three agents working full time just to monitor and study his screencaps
>big dream is to open a screencap museum one day

>>92194919
>Define alternatives I guess?
I suppose a way to get the same sounds with a relatively similar workflow (i.e. if some hardware allows for a simple way to achieve a sound, but the only way to recreate it in software is extremely convoluted, then that would count).
Based on how far we have come with technology, I almost feel like the only thing left would be something like romplers with proprietary samples that aren't available anywhere else.
>Emu romper racks
Emulator X3, no?
I was thinking about getting an Orbit 9090, but according to a thread on KVR, it seems like there is a sound pack with a different name that has the same sounds as the 9090.

Making a list of software based mod synths, so far I got
>sun vox: standard. Just works
>reaktor: nice and powerful
>cardinal/vcv rack: cardinal is bundled with all free patches, while vcv rack has some exclusives.
>buzz: got filtered
>max/pd: stretches but are cool. I like them

>>92195666
Softube Modular
u-he Bazille, ACE and Zebra
Voltage Modular
Arturia Modular V
Unfiltered Audio LION
AAS Multiphonics-CV1 (never tried it)
VAZ Modular (discontinued)

>>92195666
carla
ossia-score (especially with the faust plugin)

>>92195666
analogbox2
wren (clearly inspired by nord modular, highly recommended)
artwonk
sync modular

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>>92195924
>>92195965
and then there's SynthBuilder but it only runs on NeXT lmao

>>92195396
>>92195396
I don’t know if all of the emu racks are out there, but aside from a few iconic presets it’s a junk
To my knowledge there is not a true alternative to transwave besides standard wavetable.
Vast is too complicated and proprietary to be replicated. Though I remember seeing a programmer recently reverse engineered the source code.
I’m sure there are vsts that could replicate anything the k5000 was doing in additive

>>92194307
i'm sitting on a bunch of TE field desks waiting for those to go to the moon

>>92196089
>I don’t know if all of the emu racks are out there, but aside from a few iconic presets it’s a junk
No way! Emu racks are GOAT. The archive has a ton of the soundpacks, but I never bothered to confirm if all of the racks are covered, so I wouldn't be surprised if you're right that some are still missing.
>>92196316
lol

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Alright I really need some advice from someone who knows what they're doing. I can't make shit that sounds "good" for the life of me. Like what the fuck is wrong with this? The guitar is kinda shit but how do I make it less shit? Is it the song writing in general? Just too corny?

I need God to come down and just fucking tell me what to do, I'm exhausted. I just want one song I can confidently show normoids.

https://vocaroo.com/13bktlLTV3J6

>>92198879
make covers of song you like, do all the parts you can hear or think would improve the track. you should start realizing what you're missing with dynamics and composition. there's nothing interesting about an envelope filtered guitar doing the same shit the entire time when there's no bass or interesting drum groove

>>92198879
It feels kinda uneventful. Try spicing up the drums with beats that aren't simple 4/4s Guitar could either use less or more effects. Also a slightly faster tempo might be good. You could also try compression to make things sound fuller.

>>92198879
The main riff isn't bad, but it's not good either. It's just boring ad doesn't make me feel anything. Free royalty free music from 2008 vibes, and not in a good way.
The note lengths and timings are too boring. Especially the last note in the bars is too short
The bassline doesn't fit the guitars very well
The sounds are basic and cheap sounding
Also, this isn't a song. it's just a loop that you're introducing one element at a time. You could get away with this for an intro or something, but at least make it shorter so we don't have to hear the same 4-bar loop a million times and get bored of it by the time the climax comes, and have a more interesting section come afterwards.

>>92199103
>>92199086
>>92199026
Sounds like it's my actual writing that sucks mostly then, thanks. Maybe I'll start from scratch but re use some of the sounds

>>92199139
No, the sounds suck too

>>92199139
i'm being dead serious. what artist do you like or want to sound like? cover one of their songs and realize how little work you're doing right now. get the mixing and production generally correct and you'll see it's not just a "writing" issue.

>>92199169
That's not very constructive but yeah I need to hear that anyway
>>92199177
Yeah that sounds like a good idea. I pretty much don't have a direction

>>92199209
What plugins and daw are you using?

>>92199139
I agree with the other anon that trying to cover another song will teach you alot in the writing and sound designing process. If there's an artist you like, try to cover a track of there's

>>92199236
>try to cover a track of there is

>>92199262
i'm tired and retarded. don't bully me too hard.

>>92199231
Ableton, and I'm using a million different plugins. Guitar rig and some waves EQs, syrex, addictive drums
>>92199236
I was vaguely going for a daft punk/RAM sounds but I obviously wasn't too concerned about following the sound exactly. I agree with what you're saying, it would be good for me to just try to reproduce the sound the have on the record.

>>92199315
Daft Punk generally chops up 70s funk and pop recordings if we're talking Discovery/Human After All era. RAM is more of a general homage. either way listening to classic funk would help alot. Use some funky hard sync leads.

>>92199262
>there is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZj2OMPWEZc

>>92199372
RAM was mostly real session players, often like 2-3 guitarists on just one track. vid from one of the guitarists
https://youtu.be/7nbQjK7LCkQ?t=1534
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_Access_Memories#Personnel

>>92199315
RAM was all about sounding "real", which is one of the main things you're having a hard time with.
I'd say try covering them, but don't feel discouraged if you can't get close, since digitally emulating real instruments is difficult for experienced producers too.
You're probably better off starting with songs that were made digitally with MIDI.

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>>92199372
>>92199884
Yeah Discovery is definitely seems like a somewhat more realistic sound for a single person to achieve. I'm feeling demoralized as shit right now, I think I've made some semi-okay mopey reverbed out tracks in the past but I'm realizing nobody wants to hear that shit, people want happier (or at least "upbeat") stuff. And not only does it take way more effort to make a clean track that would please a gay man in a club, but I feel like you need to have some degree of self confidence to write music that sounds confident and I hate myself, which I think is part of why I make music that sounds like a phony 2000s infomercial: because I am phony. Seems like most people getting into /prod/ make techno or house and I'm more interested in pop desu, but the pop producer dudes are just on a different fucking level

Anyway, don't forget to subscribe to my blog

>>92200425
Most musicians hate themselves. That's no reason to sound bad.

>>92200455
Fair enough. I'll get back to work

>>92200515
Do your best Anon! You'll get there eventually.

>>92200425
>nobody wants to hear that shit
>pop music has to be happy
Among the most out of touch posts I’ve read in a while

>>92200425
your brain is bricked by cringejaks, maybe in 10 years you'll get your head out of your ass and learn to put in work to improve instead of blaming others

>>92200588
Show me a genuinely bleak pop song from the last 10 years

>>92200604
Who am I blaming? I just said I'm a sad sack of shit and real producers are better than me, you want me to find your address and come over to suck your dick next? I mean shit I might be a loser but at least I'm not you.

>>92200672
Haven't listened to his music but looking at recent pictures of Sam Smith the word bleak fits like a glove

>>92200672
it's true, the weeknd's original music was pretty dark, but got more upbeat as he got famous

>>92200672
I’m not naming a single one because this is a stupid post.
There are like a million literal top 40s hits about breakups, addictions, abusive relationships etc. That’s not even counting “alt” pop in any form. You’re being daft as fuck.

>>92200977
>lick that pussy often often often lick that pussy often
yeah

>>92201061
listen to the mixtapes, they are all about drug addiction and depression

>>92201077
no thank you

>>92201112
lmao

>>92201004
>there are million but you can't name one
Lol, every other song is about breakups and murder, doesn't change the fact that the music itself is relatively upbeat. I guess MGMT kinda dark, but I don't know if that's really considered "pop." Even popular guys like them are too artsy for your average 20 something white girl.

>>92198879
>you have a decent basic loop, but then nothing happens, not enough variations, energy or surprises in the melody and in each track (it really lacks a killer vocal on top of this too)
>the sounds that kick in around 0:35 completely bury your drums, their loudness ruin the balance of your mix
>the bass at 0:52 sounds weird, out of place and too loud as well
>drums are too boring, especially the hi-hats

>>92201150
If you’re switching the goal post to “low energy” as opposed to *musically* “upbeat” instead of just the theme or mood, you’re still wrong.

>>92201255
The lyrics aren't the music. Dua lipa singing about getting revenge on her 48th ex for having too small a penis is not "bleak." Sorry anon.

https://vocaroo.com/17dA5OLn9Yip
this one is meh idk i think the ending is cool but im still stuck using other peoples loops lol

>>92201150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgBJmlPo8Xw
THREE HUNDRED TWENTY ONE MILLION VIEWS
>b-b-but it's 120 bpm; that's upbeat!
stfu

>>92201966
I didn’t post shit because people like this just switch to “no that doesn’t count because...” and it’s never worth it. Unless you live under a rock you’ve heard the shit before but this guy just made up a bunch of mental hoops to justify his “problem.”
Like bro you’ve heard fucking STAN wtf are you on about

>>92202013
lmao. I know. I just decided that we could play since we're past the bump limit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQOO2xGQ1Pc
^this needs to be remixed into a breakbeat banger

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>>92202013
>mfw stan was 36 years ago

>>92202072
>>92202013
You guys are fucking mean

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>>92202081
Shit dude, I remember skateboarding in my friend's garage during the winter when that album came out. Don't remind me.

>>92202112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMQuofsOOzo

>>92202084
You deserve it