>>91101868
4chan.org/norefunds

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>>91101868
>all that "power"
>use it to watch gay porn
Linux is kill indeed, it blocks gay porn in the kernel.

>>91101902
cope

Fortunately macOS is garbage, even Windows is better, so this cannot kill anything.
There is time to be a doomer tho, because this is just the another repeated reminder that people don't give a shit about upgrades or repairability, and they'll happily replace their hardware every other year and there is just more money to be made if you do things like Apple does.

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>>91101969
>Fortunately macOS is garbage
Normal people think otherwise. I'm already ordering it as we speak.

>>91101868
>$599
it's $1,199 if you pick 16 gigs of ram and 1tb storage -- so at that point you might as well go to the max sku which for 1,199 bottoms out at 16 gigs and 512 gigs.

>>91102048
>furiously hits cancel after taking the screenshot

>>91102048
Well, I guess I could downgrade the "garbage" into
>garbage for anything other than what Apple wants you to use it for

>>91102078
>max sku
excuse me the pro sku. thanks apple.

>>91101868
What's his name again?

>>91101868
is this... is this A NIGGER?

let me know when you want to upgrade the ram or storage on iturd mini

Does the soldered non-upgradeable memory even perform? You'd think it would be at least 3x the speed of comparable DDR DIMM RAM from the distance cutdown alone. But if that was the case I'd have heard about it.

>>91101902
Linux users cope and kvetch the hardest

>>91101868
>8GB RAM
>256GB SSD
you can't be serious

>>91102078
I would get the Mac mini with M2 Pro, 24GB Unified Memory, and 1TB storage. It’s really good. I want the MSI Raider HX(2023) for gaming and a 49 inch super wide monitor, the ones at CES

>>91102283
>3x the speed of comparable DDR DIMM RAM from the distance cutdown alone
Hahahaahahhahaha

>>91101868
>it's hostageware
yikes looks like it's actually on par with winblows

>>91102364
Linuxcucks and winnerds BTFO once again.

>>91101868
>>91101897
>>91101902
>>91101959
>>91101969
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>>91102386
Please buy the M2 Mac Mini from Apple Edu website, it's for $500 and it's probably the best $500 you would ever spend
https://www.apple.com/us-edu/shop/buy-mac/mac-mini/apple-m2-chip-with-8-core-cpu-and-10-core-gpu-256gb

>>91102323
it gives her an air of approachability without broadcasting that she's a whore

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>>91102323
retard

>>91102447
I’m not in college. You need a recognized school for the student discount

>>91102447
Wait what? How'd you find this? I JUST FUCKING BOUGHT THE STANDARD PRICE FUCKING DAMMIT

>>91102485
thats a different model you tard.

>>91101868
The strength of PC is it's flexibility
I can buy a PC that is cheaper than the Mac or a more powerful one
Mac you have to accept exactly what is on the box
PC faced much worse opponents like the Amiga that was 10 years ahead in tech and still won

>>91102447
>just pay the equivalent of my months rent for literal unapologetic spyware that violates your privacy like it was a cheap whore
Fuck off.

>>91102485
that's not $600 now is it? dumbass

>>91102078
256gb is enough for the os
buy a tb4 external adapter and put a 4tb nvme ssd in it, so the only upgrade is to 16gb of ram which on edu store leads to 680

>>91102565
The specs are good for the price

>>91102598
Someone post it.

>>91102603
the specs are on the image he posted you tard. For that price to get an M2 chip you're not getting anything better on winblows or loonix.

>>91102577
Bro at that point it’s better to just upgrade it to M2 Pro for 4TB. Y’alldo so much extra shit

>>91102633
lmao, someone post it

>>91102577
How viable is pytorch and machine learning on Macs? Is it getting better? I might actually bite the bullet here since I have an edu email.

>>91102498
They got rid of verification some time last year on account of false negatives. 60% of their revenue is profit, they probably figure they can just tank cheaters by not letting the information get out of hand.

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best config via edu
get external ssd if you want extra storage

am5 boards are $200
a case and fans and cooler and a good psu another $100
cpu is at least $250
inferior 16gb of ddr5 is another $50?
already at 500 with no hpu or storage and the mac is silent, sips power, looks nice, fucking tiny

PCs literally cannot compete, in any way. it's over

>>91102731
>this config is 50% more expensive than equivalent PC
>PCs literally cannot compete lmao
.

>>91102670
https://towardsdatascience.com/installing-pytorch-on-apple-m1-chip-with-gpu-acceleration-3351dc44d67c

ML as a general idea dunno, you can always use a VM

>>91102759
show us your build for 33% less, troon

>>91102759
Name an alternative

>>91101868
>$599 for 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD, soldered, in 2022
LMAO @ iToddlers

>>91102670
slow as shit, a low end gpu like the rtx 3060 destroys any ishit hardware for ML

>>91102731
>year of our lord 2023
>16GB RAM
what are you, poor? does apple not pay their shills enough?

>>91102731
You could make that build, with a good gpu, and then finance it with Afterpay and all those finance companies, right? Ive never used credit since am a neet but that would be a viable alternative for most people.

>>91102731
Bro forget that external crap. Just get it with M2 Pro, 32GB memory, and at least 1TB

>>91102821
>3x the speed of comparable DDR DIMM RAM from the distance cutdown alone
Reading is hard.

>>91102832
Literally false.
>>91102670
it's good.

>>91102899
cope is strong in this one

>>91102917
https://sebastianraschka.com/blog/2022/pytorch-m1-gpu.html

the M1 Ultra slightly surpasses the laptop 3060, but a real 3060 is obviously faster

>>91102681
I checked. It says you need a transcript or other proofs

I chose the cheapest non-shit parts that closest match the m2 specs and it comes to $660 without a GPU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gxY7jZ

tim cock and vertical integration obsoleted PCs. not even jobs could achieve this

>>91102942
for 200w of course it is, factor in power usage and it's crazy how much value these macs have

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>>91102917
oh wait I was wrong, even the low end GTX 1060 which came out in 2016 is better than Apple's iShit gpu when it comes to ML.

>>91101868
Yeah, but then you gotta get like a worthwhile monitor and a mouse and a keyboard, and the price adds up quick.

>>91102939
Not an argument.

>>91102851
everything just works with 16gb.
even if you run out of memory, the ssd speed (to save old open new shit) and memory bandwidth to clear memory and load new shit are so ridiculous you'll never tell the difference

the lowest tier m2 has 2x the maximum theoretical ddr5 has, in practice it's 3x.

>>91103006
non issue. do you not have a monitor a mouse and a keyboard already?

>>91103006
Still better value than most pcs

>8GB RAM
>16GB RAM
Sorry kids 32GB RAM is the default nowadays and that will cost you $3k at applel

>>91103098
see >>91103082
Outdated and uninformed post.

>>91103089
No, I have a laptop.

>>91103006
it's the same for a regular pc tho

>>91103093
>>91103114
Not necessarily, considering the gaming situation on mac just got even worse now that you can't dual-boot with Windows.

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>>91102999
for a dead silent gpu using 15w that's remarkable

>>91103082
you cannot be fucking serious.

guess i'll throw my ddr4 sticks in the garbage and run from my L3 cache, after all more bandwidth means size doesn't matter? and I can just buy a stupid fast ssd to compensate?

>>91103129
>gaming
oh, i thought it was a serious discussion, my bad
the xbox series s is $250, buy that if you wanna game

>>91101868
lol, I just bought a 2018 mac mini for about the same price

my cope is that I use vmware a lot and last I checked the M* processors couldn't run x86 VMs. oh, and I can upgrade the RAM to 32gb for a very reasonable price, whereas a 24GB M2 mini costs $400 extra

>>91103198
in theory, yes, that's exactly how it works
get a fast enough ssd to compensate for the lower amount of ram and it'll work

that's why working with 50 chrome tabs on 8gb mac is roughly the same as 32gb on windows

>>91103262
>last I checked the M* processors couldn't run x86 VMs
x85 is near native speed via their virtualisation api, sorry anon, you dun goofed

ironically they dont support arm32

>>91103298
I'm not talking about running macOS x86 apps rosetta'ed

I'm talking about VMware etc:

https://communities.vmware.com/t5/Fusion-22H2-Tech-Preview/Running-X86-Windows-in-VMWare-Fusion-in-Macbook-Pro-M1/m-p/2907513#M1445

>>91103321
ah, specifically vmware, then sure, you can cope.

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>>91101868
If it has an apple on it I pass. simple as simple does simple it will be

>>91102999
I feel like this graph is misleading. In practical real world usage, it's really good. https://towardsdatascience.com/apples-new-m1-chip-is-a-machine-learning-beast-70ca8bfa6203

>>91102048
Get out normie

>>91102323
It an excuse t use a swap partition to rape your ssd.

>>91103129
Man fuck Gaming if I can work from this and make money remotely

How is game emulator performance on this computer?

>>91101868
Sounds more like Apple's workstation line is kill.

>>91104017
what do you mean?

>>91102832
It’s weird because they brag up and down about having these huge chunks of the die dedicated to the “neural engine” but they didn’t bother actually getting anything that’s used for ML to optimize for it lmao. You’d think they’d have a vested interest in dumping the moneytruck at pytorch hq to get it up to snuff, but nah

>>91103947
Normie website.
>>91104156
Theyre optimized for tensorflow for more than a year already anon.

>>91104116
Max studio early adopter here, I am 100% kill lmao. 3.5 times cheaper for like 90% of the performance. End me lmao

>>91104155
Cause I’m trying to work remotely and I want a gaming laptop but work is better from macs

>>91104192
Huh? Are you saying it’s good or bad

>>91104192
How much is a max studio?

>>91104348
Well thats true. Afaik gaming on macs is a lot better
>>91104100
good. youtube it.

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>>91102577
>itoddler is so mindbroken he's happy having dongles hang out of his "desktop" for basic usability
Can't make this shit up

>>91103263
LOL
why don't they just make SSDs as fast as RAM amirite?

>>91103321
>>91103369
Not just vmware, virtualbox x86 is fucking horrendously slow on mac m1 - speaking from personal experience.

<1299 for worse performance than m1
1299 for base pro with gimped chip
1599 for full chip with gimped ssd
1799 for full chip with full ssd
2000 for max ram

>>91101868
>>91102447
>not x86
Meaning it can't play my EROTIC GAMES. Fuck off with your shitbox.
>b-but big number in le hecking bencharkarino!!!!

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>>91104361
>>91104385
After taxes and apple care and fees and shit it was over 3k Canadian, the new max mini is 799 and gets a large chunk of the way there in terms of performance lel. Good for mini, bad for studio.

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>>91103171
It's fine for a low power ARM chip, but apple shills would have you believe that their arm chips are channeling zero point energy through a wormhole to elsewhere in the cosmos.

>>91103716
Literally nothing in your link demonstrating the graph is misleading. It's just saying apples older laptops were so awful at gpgpu that the new one, despite being extremely modest and low-power, is much better.
Naturally, a modern nvidia GPU absolutely blows them the fuck out.

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>>91102093
>garbage for anything other than what Apple wants you to use it for
Sure thing anon

>>91104459
Fucking ishit phone corrects mac to max lmao Steve jobs is rolling in his grave

>>91101868
Should I replace my broken raspberry pi htpc with this?

>>91102447
I don't have 500 bucks.

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>>91104470
>33.34 ms frame time
>30 fps

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>>91104439
><1299 for worse performance than m1

>>91101969
>Fortunately macOS is garbage, even Windows is better, so this cannot kill anything.

Maybe for gaming.

For 99% of useful tasks I take Mac. And if I need a custom hardware Linux is fine too.

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>>91104521
Whatever makes you happy anon, I’ll be enjoying myself

>>91104439
thats with edu pricing btw full price is more

>>91104445
Rosetta
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211861

>>91104116
>Sounds more like Apple's workstation line is kill.

In the current state I agree.

Only way I can see the MacPro being a thing in the future, is if they go the multi-SoC route, ideally in a modular upgradable system.

>>91104609
>multi-SoC route this is basically exactly what the lineup already is

Two m1’s for a pro
Two pros for a max
Two max for ultra

>>91104552
can it run path of exile and guild wars 2?

>>91104468
Nice speed reading. Actually, the article shows They are comparable and competitive with google colab comparative specs.

>>91104635
>path of exile
https://youtu.be/R1DgvBKxMFY

You’ll need crossover for guild wars it seems, maybe parallels works too
https://youtu.be/_3u4a_zDkbc

>>91104635
FYI you can keep extending your crossover trial indefinitely. Or you can try configure your own wineskin

>>91101868
>Markass Brownlee

>>91104699
Unironically a quality content creator.

>>91104711
>quality content creator.
quality video effects maybe, just like 99% of all technology YouTubers he’s borderline tech illiterate and doesn’t provide any useful testing. Genuine quality channels are incredibly rare and usually have like 20k subs

Here is an example of a quality Tech channel
https://youtu.be/P0h8q6D0s74

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>>91101868
isn't this the OS that literally phones home all your media?

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>>91104789

>>91104811
That’s called windows anon

>>91101868
>le blm anti trump ukriane meme nigger
Fuck these skyting social issue wankers fuck off niggarsebrownshiet

>>91104742
I literally cannot understand a word this guy says. I don't speak bug.

>>91104811
>>91104824
it's also MacOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LfCJGSUcfk

>>91102797
>>91102814
His config is for the same specs is $500. vs $750. Read the post.

>>91104695
>>91104678
i've had not so good experiences with wine etc. it's like telling someone to bake mince pies only to be given a pie casing full of mentos and clorets.

nice to see poe is m1 native. will investigate further.

>>91104860
Seems like a software illiterate view harvesting

>>91104893
he's not the source
https://sneak.berlin/20230115/macos-scans-your-local-files-now/

>>91104609
It would be neat if they just slapped together two Ultras and gave it a few pcie slots. I think the RAM is what's giving them issues though. No DDR5 DIMMs are really close to top spec LPDDR5 for speed.

>>91101868
dont forget how shitty macOS looks on any display resolution smaller than 1800p at 2x (900p equivalent).

All that hardware to not be able to do subpixel antialiasing.

>>91104931
They already have the Max running at 400GB/s memory bandwidth which is never saturated. CPU saturation is the bigger issue here

>>91105004
> on any display resolution smaller than 1800p
No it’s actually about sub 218 ppi displays. Thankfully you can make Firefox render decently on them by adding to your userChrome: -moz-osx-font-smoothing: grayscale

It made MacOS bearable before I upgraded from my $20 office monitors

>>91101868
>And just like that, Windows and Linux was kill
Oh so MacOS is completely free and open source now? I'll just install it on my NUC then

>>91105099
>intel
I have bad news for you and your device drivers

>>91102731
>CPU is at least $250
If you're looking for a budget PC build for around $600 you should go for LGA 1700 + 12100/12100F
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i3-12100f-core-i3-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118357

Does it really not support AV1 encoding? It's not mentioned anywhere on the product page

>>91105099
Free and open source are always low quality

>>91104812
>>91104789
source?
>>91104811
>>91104860
>>91104902
Fake and gay
https://eclecticlight.co/2022/10/07/is-apple-scanning-the-images-on-my-mac/

>>91105347
i don't get it.

>>91105347
>Here's this chart about a test on a chip not designed to sideload a different OS
Linuxcucks are truly deranged.

>>91105399
>Here's this thread to shill my currynigger fruit toys that get destroyed by ancient i3 from last century
iJeets are truly street shitting curryniggers.

>>91105391
Thats because your programming socks are on too tight

>>91105474
I'm not wearing socks.

>>91105391
I think it’s supposed to mean that all Linux users do all day is cross compile Linux all day long because they need to reinstall it so often

So what do people do with this? video editing?

>>91105391
linux kernel compilation is significantly slower on apple ARM cpus than older intel cpus, despite the marketing.

Why cant I cancel my order. The way they do everything is so annoying

>>91102541
Ah yes, another PC evangelist.

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>>91105664
ahh yes, another street shitting currynigger

>>91105347
I don't like apple, but people don't really do that shit with apple. Apple is just a computer for normies to buy stuff on amazon. If you want to compile linux, run a VM/Container on Windows or some cloud service.

Blatant advertising, again. Jannies on the payroll.

>>91105099
Hackintosh is still viable on Intel. There's tons of articles and videos on how to do it, completely free. Apple hasn't charged for the OS since 2013, try to keep up.

MacOs will be open source around the same time Windows is, lol.

>>91105286
>source?
https://youtu.be/m1XWHFkHgp8

>>91105698
You mean like Linus Torvalds using an M2 air?

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>>91105286
>Oct 7, 2022

>>91102670
no reason to use anything but the industry standard, Nvidia
software is more important than raw performance (which is shit on macs compared to real GPUs anyway)

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>>91105777
>1/2 a decade later
>1/2 the speed
Do street shitting curryniggers really?

>>91105777
the 8GB ram but not the 16GB ram.

>>91105723
lmao holy shit I have like 40 tabs open normally.

>>91105759
oh shit really, that's cool.

>>91105347
Why is all the AMD shit scribbled out? Is that all Threadrippers and Epycs? If so that would put the M1 in the 8/13th percentile which is 62. Which for a laptop part is just embarrassing, but also this lineup is from back when M1 had a node advantage which it doesn't anymore and it turned out that that was where most of its oomph was coming from. Also >mass replying.

>>91105777
This was cringe but the intended audience will literally never notice. Even an enthusiast could go a long time without noticing. Disks are way too fast at the moment, not in an eat the bugs kind of way but in a good luck making it matter way. And if you got a sku anyone would actually buy you got 2 chips in parallel which gave you the old speed back. Not an apple guy and people have a right to know but it's not really that big of a deal.

>>91101868
why would I need a gay porn and facebook machine to be faster?

>>91106090
It’s okay anon, we know you’re a little slow so you can keep watching your favorite stuff on your 480p 2005 stinkpad

>>91105599
that's what i do with my studio. I learned and came up in final cut pro so getting the machine that can run it the fastest is great for me. sure, you guys can show me numbers about nvidia/ayymd being faster all you want but outside of a shitty hackintosh deal, i can't run FCP. i don't mind paying for the mac for my workflow. I had a 2018 top spec macbook pro and the studio annihilates it for the work i need to do, so i'm happy with it.

>>91101969
>muh upgrades
> muh right to repair
Noone cares about that, PC fag.

>>91105840
ram isn't the issue, its apple cheaping out on nand storage again. the 512 gb doesn't have this problem same with the m2 air

>>91105715
you seem to not know what free software is

>>91106315
Show me your installed drivers and firmware

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>when you only use cloud storage

Mac chads we win again. Loonixcucks and Winchuds btfo once again.

>>91106376
But a fucking ad, Steve. Then go back to Hell.

>>91106352
So hook up an SSD to one of the 4-6 TB4 ports. It tunnels pcie, you can also boot from it

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>>91102447
>>91102731
>>91102759
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bd8vxs
$622 for as close as I could get but the RAM is significantly worse--single-channel and 400MT/s slower. M2 is 6400MT/s and triple-channel. Also the GPU is probably a little to 2x better in the M2. The value is there, the only question is whether you can actually get work done (or even stand to use in the first place) MacOS, considering that Asahi Linux still isn't done after 2.5 years and Linux on ARM in general is pretty sub-optimal.

Why is the SSD so trash.. apple always finds a way to fuck things up

>>91106596
>16 TiB written in 2 months
Uh, so? That's nothing. That chart is obviously bullshit, I've written about 3PB to my Crucial MX300 275GB (chart says it should be dead already) and it says it still has 88% health remaining. SSDs last longer than hard drives, even the bad ones that are slower than hard drives.
>Swapping
User error. Everyone with an IQ above 80 turns that shit off first thing.

>>91106649
>Everyone with an IQ above 80 turns that shit off first thing.
How?

>>91106664
https://www.google.com/search?q=macos+disable+swap
https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+disable+swap
https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+disable+swap

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>>91106649
>curryjeetOS
>allowing users any control
lol
lmao even

>>91106325
but those arent an operating system.

Linux is free as in you are free to use it however you see fit. If I want to set up 20 computers at work to do things for commercial gain I am free to do that with Linux without restriction.

MacOS is not free. if you install pirated MacOS on 20 computers at a business, you are liable to get sued. Not to mention, you dont have access to the source code to modify it. and even if you want to modify things without the source code, you are not allowed to

what? b-but apple makes overpriced products

>>91106376
>non-free closed-source proprietary botnet operating-system
>beating Linux
0/10

>>91106749
>if you install pirated MacOS
You do know that MacOS is free, right? Like, actually. It's just free. Not pseudo-free like Windows, just free. You do not have to pay to download and install it. Period. It's free to use, legally. Using it on non-Macs simply isn't supported.

>>91106764
they do
this is currynigger shit that's no different than the trash walmart sells for $199, except with a homosex pride logo on the lid

>>91106779
Wrong. Using it on non-Mac hardware violates the ToS. Even if you managed to install it and get it working, Apple will do everything in their power to remotely disable or corrupt your install to make you stop. and if you do this for monetary gain, Apple *will* sue you

Go try selling PCs with MacOS installed and see how well that works for you.

>>91101868
>8gb
>256gb ssd
>in current year
>for $600
lol lmao even

>Can't play my games
Useless

>>91102759
you guys really aren't sending your best
name the equivalent processor

>>91106950
pretty much. i'd love to see how rosetta 2 handles poe maps

>>91107029
literally dig anything out of a dumpster, it'll be faster than your crapple currynigger trash >>91105347

>>91107046
the eternal boomer fears the single core performance scores

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>>91106596
It takes decades for the average ssd on a high use case to fail.

>>91106793
why do the screens look so good though

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>>91107096
>50gb a day
curryjeetOS rapes your SSD for 25GB every time you open control center

>>91107181
Regardless of whether this is the result of full-retard preallocaton a-la the NT kernel or a garden-variety memory leak, the fact that he's confused just goes to show Mac's target audience.

>>91106570
The 12700 is a significantly better chip than the M2.

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>>91107181
That is a read, not a write.
Also, you don't appear to understand how memory handling works.

>>91106570
I think the graphics are the only thing that makes a computer more "versatile" than the mac, and that's not saying much since a lot of people don't give a shit about graphics cards.

You want play game? Buy a device specifically for that: XBOX
You want use computer? Buy a device specifically for that: Mac Mini

>>91101868
can someone please shoot this nigger already?

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>>91107364
shooting him solves nothing
another iNigger will just take his place
you have to cure the cancer at the source

>>91102544
Install linux then. Still the most secure hardware you can run any unix system on to date, cope and seethe

https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgybq7/apple-macbook-activation-lock-right-to-repair

>>91107549
If I read one more news article about fencing fronts not being able to fence Apple shit because the anti-theft features are working as intended I might just buy an iPhone.

>>91104429
use utm

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>>91104391
cope

>>91104871
$500 without storage or a GPU retard

>>91106570
no cooler, no case, ssd much slower
what GPU?

>>91106570
>$325 for a fucking i7-12700
>when a $20 i3-7100 off ebay destroys crapple's latest and greatest street shitter trash

>>91108138
seething troon lol

>>91102731
Can get a way better gaming build with 3600+5700XT for $500

>>91102283
Yes actually but only at higher capacities

>>91102283
You’ll find high end laptops to most commonly run DDR5 4800 which is 30GB/s. M2 has 100GB/s bandwidth, M2 Pro 200GB/s.
Roughly a 500% speed difference with the pro to 2500-4000 usd business laptops

>>91106649
Sure, I turn swapping off and when the OS starts to run out of memory it shits itself and crashes.
I don't have 256GB of RAM to prevent that from happening, retard.

>>91102731
Best macOS PC for the price, that's for sure.

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>>91105347
>curryniggers actually shill this pajeet shit as "amazing"
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>91101868
Too bad MacOS is still shit.

So what is actually a decent alternative that is similarly priced and sized as the M2 MAC mini? I'm actually looking for a small factor PC to keep in my living room but I sure as hell don't want to use a Mac.

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>>91101868
>blocks your path

>>91107885
looks like absolute shit

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>>91101868
all these nu-US american brains can perceive is video, isn't it?

outperform adding an pcie card, lunatic

>>91101868
>And just like that, Windows and Linux was kill.
currently, yes. AyyMD and NVIDIA might be able to compete in the future with their arm offerings

>>91105828
>pic of a mac user

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Based

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>>91108138
seething winjeet

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fagmini anons... I don't feel so good...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dx6FrD

>>91110722
>ayyymd ryzen 5
>DDR4
>winblows or linux
Hahahahahhahahahahahah

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>Hahahahahhahahahahahah
I have it all

>>91110805
>ayyymd ryzen 5
yeah, the M2 beats the 5600, but not by much (about 10% in multicore), but I preferred to trade some CPU performance for a massive GPU advantage over the M2 (the 6600 has over 3X the GPU performance of the M2)
>DDR4
16GB of DDR4 + 8GB of GDDR6, way more memory available compared to the similarly priced Mac Mini
>winblows or linux
macOS can't run some essential software for some people (Unreal Engine 5 runs like shit on Apple Silicon for example)
Also, that PC can actually game.

>>91110929
>Also, that PC can actually game.
And old and obsolete meme.
M1 Pro is sufficient to play Victoria 3, Hades, any Civ, Surviving Mars etc. I haven't played any FPS but it should be fine either.

>>91111054
M1 Pro is faster than the M2 tho.

Also, PC has waaaay more games available, there's no comparison.

>>91102956
Forge them retard

>>91102510
student discount

>scans all your files locally for "problematic content"
wintoddlers and itoddlers are the same

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>>91110722
>poozen

>>91111512
Applefags are completely subhuman to allow this.

>>91111536
> trade 10% CPU performance for an extra 400% GPU performance
> "heh... poozen!"

Can I get 200fps 1440p in TF2? That’s my litmus test

>>91111512
False.

Hardware != software. Can't wait to put Asahi on it.

>>91101868
>pay $600 for a soldered SSD and an OS designed for homosexuals
No ty I don't care how fast it is

>>91106649
Decent post until the end. You never should disable swap.

>>91107549
The only person that seems to care is that seeking new York Jew who wears that retarded headset. And even then he’s grifting cause he doesn’t actually give a shit about consumer rights, he just mad they don’t make it easy for him to repair things at a premium. Fuck him.

>>91107133
The screens look good, the trackpad is the best in the industry and has been for over a decade, the speakers are probably the best sounding in a laptop of its class, the battery life is top notch, etc etc, but retards here can only think “my shitbox can also access Facebook.com wow big fucking deal” lel

>>91101868
base mac pro can run an rx 6900 and it's destroy m1 ultra mac studio gpu.
also you can install windows and use an rtx card

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>>91101868
>And just like that, Windows and Linux was kill

Cope harder

>>91108003
>no cooler
it's in the cpu.
>no case
i already went over so there was no point in starting an argument abut milk crates.
>ssd much slower
i know.
>what gpu?
it's in the cpu.
>>91109147
>>91112138
Use a better operating system like Windows.

>>91112316
m3 mac pro going to rape intel mac pro. m3 ultra going to destroy rtx 8090 and run linux

Lots of salt ITT.

>>91113178
without an upgradable gpu it won't destroy anything. it's going to fail hard same as the trashcan mac pro failed.
mac studio's m1 ultra gpu gives you performance of an ancient rx5700xt. you can't do anything serious on such slow hardware.

>le melanated apple shill

>>91113873
>you can't do anything serious on such slow hardware
>t. spends 20 hours a day playing minecraft

Hell yeah! Why wouldn't I want to give Apple $599
so they can fund another season of The Problem With White People starring Jon Leibowitz Stewart??? Thank you based black man!

>>91102797
>>91102814
Steam Deck

>>91101902
Linux is for pedophiles anyways.

M2 Mini has half the read and write speeds of the M1 Mini, lmfao. No wonder they discounted it $100 from last year

>>91114741
no it doesn't.

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>native ARM
All (or most) performance gains are lost on the rosetta translation layer.
If you run ARM linux on the same hardware you can squeeze extra performance because the OS isn't hashing and sending all your data to timmy "cock" cook or running trillion processes in the background for the gay animations.

>tl;dr
linux still performs better lmao

>>91114795
Yes it does retard

>>91114795
Yes, it does.

>>91114867
Magix Vegas does not need translation
Microsoft Office does not need translation
Adobe Suite does not need translation
Pro Tools does not need translation
Final Cut does not need translation
Logic Pro does not need translation
Studio One does not need translation
Jetbrains does not need translation
VSC does not need translation
Browsers do not need translation
the list goes on

https://doesitarm.com/kind/app/2

>>91115126
>doesitarm.com
where's the difference to linux at this point lmoa
>dude just think about this and that and this and that and also this and that and nope sorry that one doesn't work

>>91115305
this post is highly nonsensical and is clearly written by someone with ESL.
reformat and try again.

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>>91115126
>pro tools

>>91115756
you're a robot

>>91115872
you’re a coper

>racism is all I know
your whole country was built on racism, what else can you do?
do a little dance for us

>>91115892
ok retard

>>91115126
>the entire world only uses these programs
Autocad and all autodesk stuff, FL studio, matlab, gcc/clang, Rstudio, simulink, various python packages (numpy, pytorch, pandas, etc) and verilog are just few industry essential programs that don't run natively on m1.
It's not just performance loss but inconsistencies and a lot of unexpected issues

I want that M2 Max Macbook Pro so much bros