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and that if you don't have yourdata on a ZFS, Btrfs or ReFS redundant array with regular scrubbing, you WILL lose some or all of your data sooner or later.
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>>88758849
Oh, I know.
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>>88758849
>with regular scrubbing
anon you had one job
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>>88758849
Btrfs is an experimental filesystem that actually destroyed my PhD thesis.
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>>88758849
Why does he need to save all this data? Does he really think that 10 years from now anyone will even remember who he is or give a shit about the throwaway videos he makes for YouTube?
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>>88758849
It's true. I listened to a 320kb/s mp3 I downloaded over a decade ago, and now it sounds like a 32kb/s realmedia file.
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>>88758849
I have btrfs on my NAS. I only selected it because it listed some benefits which I can't remember now. I think it mentioned something about self healing.

However I've noticed data sometimes completely goes missing, but I chocked it up to either me forgetting where i stored shit, or never having stored it at all.

I only store porn on my NAS though, so I don't really care if it loses data, it's doing me a favor because i'm a hopelessly addicted coomer.
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>>88759711
When the Jews at YouTube decide to pull up stumps and fuck off he would lose his entire business in minutes.
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>>88758849
>Friendly reminder that something that didn't exist until SSDs came along (where it does exist)
>and got transferred to HDDs by magical thinking of Scamshills and a bullshit article by Robin Harris
>is VERY real honest
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>>88758849
I've had my data on software RAID 1 for, I don't even know, 10(?) years now. Still waiting for that bitrot.
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>>88759711
I'd like to not disagree, but then again, you would've said the same thing 10 years ago too.
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>>88759947
it's already happened
you just haven't noticed it yet
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>>88759947
I just checked some 28 year-old files that went from an 80MB drive to a 250MB drive to a 1GB drive to a 10GB drive to a 120GB drive to a 1TB drive to the 4TB drive they're on now. Still as perfect as when I drew them in Aldus PhotoStyler in 1993.
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>>88760157
so they survived each interval
doesnt mean they would have survived 28 years on any one medium

they survived the previous interval then you moved them to a new medium and therefore reset the clock
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>>88760157
Unless you go through and hash each one to verify they haven't been altered anyway, no way to know they're ALL perfect.

That being said, I don't think bitrot is as bad as people claim.

Bit rot is a real problem on burned CD's and DVDs. I had a pull all of my stuff off some old CDs and DVDs a couple years back and there was serious bit rot. I had no idea archival CD/DVDs existed when I burned them though.
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>>88760157
Checksums? Not the same files.
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>>88760264
>>88760329
Don't need checksums. They're indexed BMP files - any changes would be VERY obvious.
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>>88760346
Like I said, I personally don't think bit rot on magnetic hard drives is a huge problem.

Bad memory is more likely to corrupt data. I've had file systems fucked by bad ram modules leaving a sea of corruption
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>>88758849
I could not believe that Linus was stupid enough to have the problems he did in his linux challenge, until this video came out and he told us that his massive petabyte array had zero monitoring for disk failures. What an unbelievable retard.
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>>88758849
You can get free software that tells you the health of the hard drive/ssd, and the estimated remaining lifetime of the hard drive/ssd.

This is easily monitored without watching a sub-par "tech" video.
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>>88760411
This. So many /g/entoomen are running 10-15 year old shitboxes that have flaky motherboards, marginal RAM and the chinkiest, shittiest SSDs you can buy by raiding the couch. Add to this the LARP factor of "hurr durr I have so much storage that I have to worry about things DATACENTERS have to worry about aren't I kool plz love me", and you get tardthreads like this.
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>>88760469
Have you seen his server room? He basically kept it in a fucking hotbox with a spider nest of wires.

The home situation isn't much better. He's obsessed with shoving all of his PC hardware into a single location, forcing him to use some high-end fiber optic solution to pipe his desktop around the house leading to endless headaches.

It's amazing he hasn't crashed and burned, his organization probably survives on dumb luck and his knowledgeable employees able to fix the fuck ups.
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>>88758884
Explain.
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>>88760590
We call it "BETArFs" for a reason, anon.
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>>88760590
It was very tragic. You see, I was about to get my PhD in Gender Studies and Systemic Racism.
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>>88759746
>and now it sounds like a 32kb/s realmedia file.
Soul. Just like old vinyls. You will soon be able to sell your old mp3s for a fortune you know.
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>>88760517
it's about more than that
any decent raid set up will let you know when one disk is failing

but bitrot can happen even without that
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>>88759711
it makes sense to store video archives so you can easily pull the high quality footage for future videos if you need to do a callback
sure, you can download videos you uploaded to youtube but it'll be compressed to shit
i remember in gamers nexus video on their NAS steve said he runs a script to compress all b-roll every few months so they werent storing raw footage unnecessarily, but still had it available for future use in decent quality
when you consider how much video LMG puts out every day...that stuff could probably be compressed to shit and still take up that much space
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>>88760054
I sure haven't noticed yet, though.
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>>88760580
>forcing him to use some high-end fiber optic solution to pipe his desktop around the house leading to endless headaches.
One of the few times he actually used fiber lol
It never fails to impress me the length he'll go to to keep running his precious utp
>It's amazing he hasn't crashed and burned, his organization probably survives on dumb luck and his knowledgeable employees able to fix the fuck ups.
There's just enough talent to keep the lights on, and when shit goes south, he can always call up Wendell for a crossover video to clean up the messes he makes
I don't even think LMG has a sysadmin on staff, which is ok for day-to-day stuff since they have decently knowledgeable people around the office, but it also means anything advanced involves calling up Wendell and telling another sob story
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>>88758849
I'm running ext4 on RAID1 on dm-integrity right now (with custom initramfs to mount it on boot). Any bit errors are transparently repaired (with the error logged). I don't trust any of the filesystems you listed on Linux.
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>>88759869
Eproms are only expected to retain data for about 20 years, according to the data sheets, if you stored a new vehicle for 50 years it likely wouldn't work anymore because all the code fadded in the chips that are required to operate the vehicle.
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>>88758849
Reminder that Linux just picks an arbitrary drive as "correct" when a RAID array fails a scrub. Yes, even in RAID6, when it could calculate which one is really correct. The only solution is running it on top of dm-integrity.
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>>88758849
>ReFS
lol
lmao
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>>88761617
ya seethe, lincel?
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>>88759711
>>88760658
>when you consider how much video LMG puts out every day...that stuff could probably be compressed to shit and still take up that much space
nevermind, just watched the video and they dont do any compression on their original video files...morons
>>88760811
>I don't even think LMG has a sysadmin on staff
correct, they have no IT staff
>>88761393
is rope core memory the only permanent form of data storage?
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>>88758849
All my work is done in code or ends up in an automatically redundant cloud store. I have a backup drive here just in case the Jews repeat their attack of 9/11 on the world’s data centers, but I think I’ll be fine.
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>>88758849
Friendly reminder I don't give a shit and LTT is faggot
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>>88758849
If you have something so old that it gets bit rot, it wasn't important anyway.
If you have something super important and you don't have it backed up on a encrypted pendrive, you deserve to lose it.
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>youtube children's entertainer doesn't know shit about technology
>surprised he lost shit
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I use Btrfs RAID5
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>>88758849
you can just use shatag or cshatag, no reason to use a meme disk format.
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backups are for pussies
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>>88760590
My thesis slipped out of the system. That day, I discovered BTRFS stands for butterfingers.
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I spun a 12 year old hard drive and it still works good as new, camera roll and all. Granted, consumer shit like that isn't the primary market for data redundancy, but bit rot is severely overstated for anything that isn't mission critical.
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>>88759768
I hate niggers like you and frankly, i hope you get bloody anally raped mate! haha
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>>88765509
Meant to reply to >>88765185
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>>88765047
Lol lsi cards are amazing. I've restored a raid 0 and raid 6 with 4 drives dropped. Dumb faggots. L2hwraid.
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>>88758849
daily reminder that linus diddled a 12yo
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>>88767092
Yep he's a rapist. The bigger he gets the more accusations will follow. Makes my dick kinda hard desu. Love seeing successful ppl fail.
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>>88758849
>DOESNT HAVE A UPS
PFFFHAHAHAHA
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>>88759844
but yt IS his biz
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>>88758849
Anything but NTFS is unreliable shit. Reminder that Linus Sebastian didn't lose his data on an NTFS drive.
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>>88758849
tldr: they prob had a ups but didn't use it to turn off so in the end it's as if they didn't have ups at all
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>>88767310
Windows proves yet again its superiority
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>>88767310
>>88767523
NTFS2 when
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>>88768360
Hopefully not anytime soon. Imagine a file system developed by current day pajeet Microsoft devs.
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>>88768460
excuse me, you're telling me you wouldn't accept a 30% performance increase in random 4K R/W in exchange for sometimes, uh, it just deletes all your shit and it's lost forever?
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>>88768360
You're already running NTFS 3.1. The fact that you didn't know this is because of Microsoft's awesome backcompat winning again.
NTFS is so generalised that Microsoft have been adding features for 20 years without having to change the on-disk format
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>>88769368
elaborate
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>>88770102
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS#Versions
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>CTRL+F ReiserFS
>0 results

Come on, /g/.
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>>88770197
Nobody on /g/ has a gf (let alone wife) that they want their FS to assassinate.
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Goddamn, you people are fucking stupid. What is par2? Boomer here with perfect files from before any of you were born. Now fuck off.



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