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Is it even possible to stop piracy as a whole?
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>>88022650
>Is it even possible to stop piracy as a whole?
Yes.
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>>88022659
how?
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>>88022650
It isn't. I pirate every single thing I can out of principle. And they can't stop me.
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>>88022661
Just stream the programs.
like they are trying with vidjas.
With internet speeds going faster and faster, this will become a new reality.
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Yes. One day browsers will become unusable and you will only be able to use internet only through apps, like youtube or reddit apps on phone. Any site that doesn't belong to a major corporation will not be accessible.
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>>88022674
the term I'm about to use gets thrown around on this website all the time yet it is rarely warranted

based
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>>88022650
You can't pirate something if it's already free.
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>>88022691
Piracy for software is almost nonexistent nowadays. Back in the early 2000, any software cost a lot of money, now they are "cheap" or you can use free software (free as free beer, not as free to use dildos) that actually works.
The piracy fight was always over digital content and IP.
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>>88022650
>Is it even possible to stop piracy as a whole?
By providing a legal alternative that is superior to the services the pirates provide, so in other words, piracy will never go away.
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>>88022771
Lol low Iq take.
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>>88022791
the only way to be more convenient than piracy is if they just released everything for free including the ability to download
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>>88022805
Not really. Convenience often comes with a price.
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>>88022650
Piracy has led to me spending far more money on entertainment products than if I had to pay for everything up front.
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>>88022691
niggertake
you can improve bandwith
but you cant improve latency
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>>88022956
>pirate music
>become fan of that artist and go see them live and buy their merch
>pirate anime/manga/Vidya
>end up buying merch and probably later sequels

More often that not, those creators only make money from merch and live performance sales and not publishing.
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>>88022959
>but you cant improve latency
Yes you can, by putting local servers (CDNs).
It already exists.
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>>88022722
meds
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7EHRpnJICQ
really worth the watch
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>>88022650
yes but not economically feasible
>>88022661
take 30 random IPs from iknowwhatyoudownload.com and publicly execute them and their families i think that would work quite well
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>>88022661
just kill the internet
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>>88022650
Ban non-Cloud storage technology.
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>>88023052
not clicking that shit
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>>88022691
Adobe tried that, didnt work out.
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>piracy
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as piracy, is in fact, unauthorized copying, or as I've recently taken to calling it, unauthorized sharing. Piracy is not the act of obtaining an unauthorized copy of a copyrighted work, but rather robbery or criminal violence at sea.

Many computer users make unauthorized copies every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the act which is widely performed today is often called piracy, and many of the people who do it are not aware that it is basically copying, and not stealing.

There really is a piracy, and some people are doing it, but it is just robbery at sea. Piracy is an act of theft: an action at sea in which goods are forcefully transferred from one ship to another. Piracy is important to be aware of, but unrelated to unauthorized copying; it can only function at sea. Piracy is normally not used in combination with unauthorized copying: the two acts are basically separate. All the so-called piracy is really unauthorized copying.
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>>88023561
Did Richard write this?
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>>88023018
huh. turns out im the nigger.
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>>88023512
>Adobe tried that
What do you mean?
I thought it was a subscription model.
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>>88023698
i also am curious
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>>88022650
Yes, but it would be extremely painful.
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Sure, just shift everything to a live service model.
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>>88024603
To be more clear, people pirating content by sharing software sounds bad for companies now, but a new generation of pirates being born who cut their teeth in pirating content by actively hacking corporate streaming infrastructure would be 1000x worse for them.
Pirating being as easy as it is nowadays may well be preventing the birth of something really nasty. Hope they don't take it for granted.
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>>88024603
for who?
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>>88024828
whom
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>>88024853
for you
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>>88023003
This exactly.
>Download music
>really like an artist
>look him up on Bandcamp
>buy entire discography at 10 bucks per album
But not every artist is worth it.
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>>88022650
Not until there is a way to easily get everything I want at the highest possible quality for less than $6 a month
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>>88023003
>those creators only make money from merch and live performance sales and not publishing.
this. dont pay for the publisher joo's mansion
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>>88022650
Piracy exists because of companies fucking over their consumers. People won't stand for it.
Poorfags will always find a way to get free stuff though, that is inevitable.
Netflix slowed down piracy for a while with a single subscription, you could have access to a tonne of movies. But now every company wantd their piece of the pie and people aren't going for pay for more than 2 subscription services so if they want to see something they will likely pirate it.
Same with music.
Same with software such as Adobe products. I'm not payint $100 a month to use it a few times and have it handy if I need it. I wouldn't mind paying $50 outright for CS6 (2010 version?).
Same with Sony Vegas, I paid $30 in the Humble Bundle because I wanted to support them but not pay $300+ they are asking for my menial edits.

Valve + Steam is a good inclanation on how to slow down / stop piracy. Look after the consumer. Give them good sales and deals.
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>>88022650
>Digital media I want has DRM, requires a subscription to access or some kind of always-online connected-to-corporation nonsense
>I pirate it
>Digital media I want has a storefront that actually guarantees I own it once I purchase it
>I buy it
>Old digital media I want has a storefront that actually guarantees I own it once I purchase it AND is priced reasonably due to being old
>I buy it
And it's really that simple. Don't try and fuck me and I won't pirate from you.
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>>88025106
>Piracy exists because of companies fucking over their consumers
no it exists becuas epeople want shit for free
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>>88022650
Absolutely. Just make everything so shit nobody would want to pirate it. 100% effective.
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The exchange principle has become unjust, if it ever existed in the first place. I will pirate. No, you cannot stop me.
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>>88022771
maybe become computing has become mostly about media consumption
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>>88022650
Some secure module in displays so software can validate that its sending video output to a secured device. But you'll always be able to point a camera at your screen.
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>>88022650
no
>what if we make it illegal
LOL
>what if we shut down the internet
piracy existed before the internet
>what if we hunt down the manufacturers of pirate products
new ones will take their place
>what if we nuke China
some other coutnry will start making pirate crap
you can't win
and that's a good thing.txt
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Piracy is a service problem.
Steam is a good example as their platform is very consumer friendly. Why would you go through the hassle of pirating games, hoping it works and doesn't contain virusus when you can just buy it on Steam for a few bucks. The download will be fast, secure and accessible anytime.
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>>88022650
yes, through secure enclaves and remote code attestation
intel is already trying it (claiming it will only be used serverside) with HTTPA
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>>88026651
>intel is already trying it (claiming it will only be used serverside) with HTTPA
qrd?
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>>88026177
>Steam is a good example
my nigga piracy is by far the most rampant on PC when compared to consoles
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>>88026665
not much else to say without the research paper itself
intel is working on an HTTP extension that uses one of their ISA extensions to create secure code enclaves which provide some sort of remote attestation (cryptographic verification code has not been modified or changed in any way)
and they specifically touted it being written in a vendor agnostic manner and said that it would be easily possible on ARM

this isn't just the death of piracy but also the death of adblocking and should any of the cryptographic certificates leak it also means potentially temporarily unstoppable viruses until they're put on certificate revocation lists
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>>88022650
no
>>88022659
>>88022691
>Just stream the programs.
>like they are trying with vidjas.
>>88023018
>Yes you can, by putting local servers (CDNs).
absolutely moronic, shockingly low iq

>>88026177
>Piracy is a service problem.
for some, for others it's purely competition.
> Why would you go through the hassle of pirating games
logging into my favourite <anonymous> site, downloading a rar archive, extracting it and clicking on an executable to install it whereever you want is a hassle? since fucking when? it's the same process as steam in many ways. you login to steaming shit, you click on game, it downloads, it decompresses, and off it goes into your installation. except you have more steps when you go to buy it. i think using steam is 100% more hassle, and that's plainly obvious to see.

>>88026751
> muh snakeoil that's been talked about for decades but nobody is interested in it
> for enterprise cancer
amazing. your cia wet dream is not going to come true, glowing nigger. you're not going to get "secure enclaves" for anything.
>>88026751
>easily possible on ARM
and every single ARM implementation of "secure enclaves" have been jailbroken, hacked and exploited. just ask apple how well they did with their T2 security chip, which was hacked only a bunch of weeks after apple released it. amazing tech!
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Games as a service with centralized servers and auth have downside being it will die when profit margins drop and the game /app will be lost to history I try not to get to invested in any software with this type of ideology because of that
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>>88023003
This desu
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>>88026672
Poorfags exist. They can't afford a console, the yearly sub etc. Also pirating games on Consoles is near impossible these days. It wasn't uncommon on the original Xbox etc. my friend had over 100 pirated games.

>>88027029
Perhaps I am out of the loop when it comes to pirating games... What and how many websites exist where it's just click and download. Are they trustworthy?
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>>88022650
Some DVD series had that ad on EVERY SINGLE DISC. Plus other warnings.
Imagine fucking marathoning 24 and that would play every single time you swapped discs. Couldn't always even skip it.
Yeah hmm do I want them to harrass me and accuse me of being a criminal or do I just pirate and tell them to go fuck themselves?
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>>88027107
This. I forgot they had ads on the PAID DISC as well.
No remorse.
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>>88022722
really dumb take, also your browser is an "app"

>>88022956
>>88023003
it also creates markets for niche stuff, hentai and manga are a great example of this. fan scanlators created the interest by doing it for free when companies had no interest in the market because it wasn't there, then greedy fucks came along/were already there (the scanlators lived long enough to become the villains) and started going legit and DMCAing everything
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>>88027099
> websites
quite a few "private" trackers out there, and they get their files directly from the scene via bots that send releases to the trackers, create the upload entry etc.etc.
>trustworthy?
highest amount of trust you can get with some private trackers. it only gets a bit hairy in the public tracker and file hosting world because you can't really tell if the release has been modified or not, but usually on such sites people will sound the alarm if there's something wrong. use trustworthy sites known for quality and you can't go wrong.
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>>88022661
Be ensuring everyone has a job where they can earn a livable wage.
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>>88027099
>Also pirating games on Consoles is near impossible these days.
it is extremely easy for both ps4 and switch
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>>88027408
and how do we achieve that?
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>>88025587
I would just figure out what that module was and bypass it. The amazing thing about hardware is that it has to follow the laws of physics. At some point I have to see it. I just take the vod stream output and run it through a device that states it's displaying properly then records it. Simple as.
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>>88027434
Crushing late stage capitalism.
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>>88027460
ok but how do we do go about doing that ?
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>>88027434
By voting Republicans into power. Democrats are the party of the poor, they need you to be poor. They'll pass laws that keep you that way. If you're not poor then you'll soon realize that you don't need them at all. Look at it from my perspective for a second then you can go back to your hate group.
>If my neighbor is rich he won't covet my stuff.
If you're rich, you're happy. Can we both agree that humans are flawed? As a republican I believe in rule of law to protect you and your riches. Live and let live. I don't need to respect you. You have a right to hate my way of life but I firmly believe that if you were more self sufficient you wouldn't want to be a thief.
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>>88027483
Fuck off, racist hateful misogynistic Fox News Cheeto Scam Artist-worshiping shitlord. No one believes your lies any more. The Republican lies are crumbling as we speak.
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>>88027483
what if I am poor though
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>>88023211
piracy has existed way before the internet
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>>88022661
With better drm
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>>88022759
/thread
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>>88022650
Imagine paying money for imaginary images and functions on a screen
lol
lmao
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>>88025384
When I was poor and earned about 50 bucks a month, buying software meant not paying my electrical bills and not having groceries.
Now that I am no longer poor and earn about 70 bucks a month, every service and software company wants me to pay them 300 per month instead of the 20 bucks their software and CDs once costed.
They really are trying to screw me over.
People will only get something for free when there are no reasonable alternatives.
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>>88027749
This but unironically
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>>88022650
Copying isn't theft.
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>>88027408
oy vey!
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>>88027506
Not sure if bot or bad b8
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Im gonna
Im pirating
Im gonna pirateee aaaaah
omg im piratinggggg aaaaaaah
https://files.catbox.moe/1l5i7e.flac
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>>88027483
>don't vote for their party, vote for mine
>things will totally change
The 2 party system was a mistake
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>>88022650
Make the paid solution more accessible then piracy and you won't have a problem. If I could just direct download or torrent non-shit encodes I'd probably pay for most content like I do games.
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netflix's entire approach was to be the first to provide iptv to americans
if normies knew they could get iptv streams for pennies all streaming services would collapse overnight
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>>88028095
>if normies knew they could get iptv streams for pennies all streaming services would collapse overnight
nope. people want to watch things on demand not tv on a schedule/channels
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>>88022650
>Is it even possible to stop piracy as a whole?
nah its impossible because of people like me
I hack netflix accounts and dump the latest films onto rarbg
im the guy who helps rarbg get the latest shit
no need to thank me
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>>88022650
>stop piracy as a whole?
No, but if you produce a good product piracy is a non-issue or even a positive.
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>>88025384
DRM only harms the legitimate consumer. Why should I be limited to X amount of installs per CD key? If I paid for the software, I should own it.
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You can stop piracy the same way you abolish speeding. Summary roadside (or computerside) executions on the spot for downloading a single song or going a km over the limit. Would really stop people from doing it. But the authorities are reluctant to go full blown totalitarian because some frogs might jump out.
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>>88028150
>no need to thank me
well, thanks anyways. even if you are a furfag, you're a pretty cool guy for doing that



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