>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases (e.g. video editing, competitive gaming, streaming etc.) and your country.>NEWSNew CPU and GPU generations later this year>RECOMMENDED CPUsHTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 10105Budget Gaming: i3 12100/F > R5 5500Gaming: R5 5600/X, i5 12400/F+coolerMulticore: R9 5900X/5950X, i7 12700/FBest Gaming: R7 5800X3Dk CPUs are not recommended>RECOMMENDED GPU PERFORMANCE LEVELBudget 1080p: Used GTX 1060/1070, RX 470/5801080p: RX 6600/XT1440p: RX 6700 XT, RTX 3060ti2160p: RX 6800 XT, RTX 3080, RX 6900 XT>RAMMinimum: 2x 8GB DDR4 3200CL16/3600CL18Recommended: 4x 8GB DDR4 3600CL16 (any rank) or 2x dual-rank 16GB DDR4 3600CL16>RECOMMENDED COOLERShttps://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/>RECOMMENDED PSUsSilver+ from Seasonic, Superflower, Corsair, EVGA (aim for 75% of total PC power)Take into account transient spikes when sizing your PSU to your GPU, especially with Nvidiahttps://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/>RECOMMENDED SSDshttps://ssd.borecraft.com/>MOTHERBOARD INFO:AM4 B550/X570 - CPU-less BIOS flash feature advisable if pairing with Zen 3https://www.overclock.net/threads/vrm-on-the-new-am4-motherboards.1624051/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yPS3hj_K7EPT4RBWCyjdKNP56pnwDz-IgBc0975-FUg>RECOMMENDED MONITORShttps://www.rtings.com/monitor/https://pcmonitors.info/https://www.displayninja.com/buying-guide/Previous: >>88014160
I want to do a cheap, low-power, ECC server build. Ryzen seems like the best option. (Also I find PSP less scary than ME)>moboMost likely asrock since they have official ECC support, curious how much lower the power consumption is on an ITX board compared to mATX. I don't have much experience with modern components.>CPUWhich ryzens are low power? 4c is enough.
>>88020723I'm hopintg the itx versions will have space for AIO coolers without the tubing pushing on the ram
>>88020779itx will be B650 only because X670 is twin chipset and there's no room.
>>88020794Well that, same statement. I wanna get an EK on a b650i
heyI have two 1080 75hz screens and I want to add 1440 144hz into the mix(put it in the centre)will the difference fuck my eyes up? I don't have enough cash to get two 1440's
>>88020648More early OP spam from a biased individual who needs to cheat because he has no argument. This OP was posted before the bump limit of 310 because he needs to include lines like >Gaming: R5 5600/X, i5 12400/F+coolerin an attempt to make LGA1700 seem more expensive. As noted many, many times before, the RM1 (Intel box cooler) and the Wraith Stealth (AMD box cooler) are both good for gaming and occasional all core workloads but bad for sustained all core workoads like video editing.If the RM1 can almost get full multicore perf out of a 125W power unlocked i7 12700, then there's no way it has any problems with a 65W CPU under gaming workloads, as proven many times.https://youtu.be/2J0iP520WoY?t=758https://youtu.be/yhKBABCfmpk?t=260OP is a joke; do not take any of its recommendations seriously.
>>88020820no but things can get screwy with multiple refresh rates, especially if you have something fullscreen on one of em
>>88020837my usual use case right now is fullscreen whatever game / working application on main screen and browser/whatever explorer pigsty/rest of the working application on secondary(its angled slightly)I plan to do picture related
>>88020825you tell him anon!
Decided to clean my PC after 6 months today because something is making a squeeking noise when I power the PC on..Jesus Christ how the fuck do I clean all this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/brpWJMAnything you would change? Mostly for games but I'll be doing some media watching and production as well
I'm looking for a case that has up to 340mm of GPU clearance, a dark tint or solid side panel, with out the back compartment and PSU shroud you see on a lot of cases. I would prefer something with the normal ATX style lay out of PSU mounted on the top but bottom is fine as long as there's no shroud.Ive only found micro ATX cases and discontinued ones.I also want straight air flow. So front intake rear exhaust, bottom intake top exhaust.Suggestions?I really prefer how nicely managed cables look compared to hidden cables.I think computers like pic rel look way better than normal say nzxt h500 clone with armored mobo, GPU, aio.>>88020723They will cover it in ugly plastic and shitty heatsinks sadly.I'm going to take the entire thing of armor and metal off my Asus board and install nice copper heatsinks from ali on it
I'd like to get a 12700(non-K), limit it to 65W and undervolt it for lower temperatures and noise. What DDR4 motherboard should I get? B660 or Z690? I also plan to use my Cl16-3000mhz 32gb DDR4 kit with it.It'd be nice for it to have wifi & bluetooth, but boards with this feature set are extremely expensive for some reason. Can/should I look for used models?
>>88020648if i wanted bluetooth 5 for my rig should i get an usb adapter or an actual pci wifi card, the price of an adapter is 1/8 the price of the wifi card
>>88021096you should get a motherboard that has built-in bluetoothUSB adapters are shit. PCIE adapters are garbage.t. had both
>>88021096Depends on your needs. If a USB adapter really is that much cheaper, then why bother with a wifi card, especially if you don't need wifi.
>>88020723https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-am5-tachyon-overclocking-motherboard-to-be-based-on-amd-b650-chipset-not-x670>High-end overclocking boards may not need X670 after all. Neat.>>88020825Sore loser, just like the products you shill for
>>88021081>used models>for a brand spanking new processorGood luck
>>88021026I use a microfiber cloth, a small paintbrush & compressed air can
>>88021152Used as in "i bought this but I got something better 2 weeks later, so you can have it at half price"
What do these mean?>1DPC 1R Max speed 4800 MHz>1DPC 2R max speed 3866 MHZ>2DPC 1R max speed 4000 MHZ>2DPC 2R max speed 3600 MHZIs 2 Dimms in dual channel still superior to 4 in DDR4 memory?
>>88021113too late :(i've already made the mistake buying a board without wifi or bluetooth>USB adapters are shit. PCIE adapters are garbage.can you be more specific about the problems? bad range or like shuttering connection?>>88021131i'm concerned about the perfomance, i've read people say that the usb ones have bad range compared to the wifi card, but for the quality they're about the samei usually stands up and walk around my house while still having my earbuds on (to get drinks while waiting at the loading screen or stuff like that) so good range coverage is definitely something i want
>>88021218>can you be more specific about the problems? bad range or like shuttering connection?both. with add-in pci-e cards there is relatively little quality control with drivers and such, and USB adapters are generally bad
Built a PC back in February and put in 16GB of Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL18 and I want to add more but they stopped making that RAM.Does it matter if I add the same 3600 CL18 RAM from another manufacturer?
surely today is the day when i stop procrastinaing and actually order a pc surely...
>>88021237Just get a 2x16 kit of ram. 4-channel RAM is not a good idea in current year
>>88021241do it anon
>>88021237Rule of thumb is generally just match frequency and CAS latency, subtimings too ideally but not as big a deal.Most of what you find nowdays is 3600 18-22-22-42 1.35v which is literally just the same RAM rebranded a million times over so it literally does not matter.
>>88021241>GPU prices at an all-time low>TSMC is about to look real threatened>next gen hype is pressuring prices even moreWait until either your desired CPU or desired GPU are on sale and then smash that order button
Lovelace? More like Lovebased.
>>88021213Again, good luckWhether refurbished or through a private seller, you're taking a risk. As far as the former, you're better of getting 'manufacturer refurbished' board since they bother to actually check if it works. Otherwise, places like Micro Center barely check for shit, so that's typically a gamble.As far as the later, make sure the seller didn't jizz on it.
>>88021269(all-time assuming time started in 2020)
>Optimised for AMD Motherboards: Achieve top bandwidth and tight response times on the latest AMD DDR4 motherboards to complement your cutting-edge Ryzen system.Is this bullshit or true?
>>88020648What stupid nigger OP got rid of the reccommended SSD list? Nobody wants to look at a fucking website. Just list the best budget, mid-tier and high tier. It's that fucking simple.
>>88021291It is leftover marketing from Ryzen 1 when you couldn't do more than 2666 Mhz without having Samsung B-Die or some other special snowflake shit, that is no longer the case since the 3000 series Ryzen chips, memory support is all but a non-issue these days up to 3600 MHz.
>>88021218I really do get where you're getting at, but at the same time, I feel like you're creating your own woes.I would still get/try the USB option, and if it doesn't work out, save it for backup/troubleshooting purposes and get a PCIe card.Or like others have mentioned, get a board with one built in.
>>88021313>obsessing over SSD'sWhat happened to getting whatever was cheapest? What applications do you run that would mandate a high-quality SSD? Where do you need literal milliseconds shaved off of your results?
>>88021313>>88021362I pick my SSDs based on what's recommended in the ZFS documentation. Hasn't failed me yet.
>>88021215it's not quite that simple, but technically the "fastest" setup you will get is 2 sticks of dual rank memory in dual channel mode.4 sticks of single rank isn't that far behind but it wont always be as simple compatibility wise.4 Sticks of dual rank is probably gonna be technically slower and... "less easy" for a system to run but that doesnt mean it wont work.In reality, you wont notice any of it as long as it runs.
Just updated from Windows 7 to 10 and swapped my old AMD graphics card for a 3060ti. Install went fine but now my motherboard temp is at 110+ degrees?? is my computer gonna melt
>>88021150>>High-end overclocking boards may not need X670 after all. >Neat.How is that "neat" really?You know they are just going to give you a lower end chipset while still making you pay top dollar for it.
>>88021383Which is a specialized applicationBut for general computing/gaming, it's just a waste of money
>>88021412AMD boards have a track record for having bad temp readingsIF the CPU isn't blowing up, then you should be fine
>>88021465>Which is a specialized applicationIt's an application where any SSD that does well in it means it'll do well for almost anything.
>>88020760Something like Ryzen 4100 maybe? Very cheap low power 4 core CPU.
>>88021480Scratch AMDBottomline is, Speccy is pulling one rando temp from your board, but otherwise everything looks fine.
>>88021045>3080 10GB $800You're getting jewed.
will we ever get normal gpu prices again? MSRP $400 for the newest xx60 ti card is a fucking scam
>>88021501Why does Speccy still fucking exist?
>>88021542To annoy youNext question
>>88021537>xx60 ti cardThere's your problem.
>>88021537Don't buy new.I got a 1080 Ti for $200.
>>88021514How about 12gb for $820?
>>88021542Because it works????
Recommend me a good case with airflow.
>>88021628Fractal TorrentCorsair 4000D AirflowLian-Li Lancool II
>>88021620BetterDoubt shit's going to get any lower unless you buy some PNY junk model--probably the ideal range is a 12GB at $800, but $20 more isn't too bad
>>88021241just wait!™ there'll be a better GPU in 10 years!
>>88021636Fractal Design>Lian Li is overpriced>Corsair is mainstream trash
>>88021626Can't even identify the exact CPU model from 5 years ago lmfao
>>88021558Do you also eat shit in front of civilized white people to "annoy" them?
>>88021631You think the cost is actually going to translate over to lower board prices?Hell if anything if 600-series chipset really is that cheap then that's all the reason to have X670/X670E. Using lesser chipsets screams of massive penny pinching on part of the motherboard vendor.
RIP OptaneYou had potentialUnfortunately, it was Intel who owned you
>>88021026Buy a little $20 air blower, I use an old blower for an air mattress that got thrown out a long time ago. It has a needle point attachment that puts out a lot of pressure. Then buy a static free brush and you're all set. I clean my PC every 3-6 months, depending on time of year.
>>88021687Doubt it. B series will always be somewhere between $100 and $150, unless you go for the really expensive ones.
>>88021026disassemble and clean the parts one by onenext time use a dust filter and don’t rely on PC case mesh alone
>>88021081you could power limit the 12700k in the bios, I limit mine to 180w and still get 22,800 cinebench r23 score with an air cooler and I can overclock it in the future when I buy a AIO liquid cooler
>>88021709Can't imagine having this much faith in Taiwanese board makers
>>88021501But even if it's one temp/one component of the board instead of the whole thing, it still shouldn't be so hot, yeah? Are you saying that the measurement is inaccurate or that its OK to have one component at 115C
>>88021073you're not going to find other ones than budget cases or super old ones from 10-20yrs ago
>>88021768Don't care about your headcanon regardless.
Is there a case anyone would recommend that does everything better than a Be Quiet! Pure Base 500DX? I'm looking for plenty of space for future upgrading since GPUs are getting huger by the generation, cable management, and good airflow. I plan to fill all available slots with fans.
I asked first the question "Are 120% srgb better than 100% rgb monitors?"Then someone replied here:>>88019212>Depends, for sRGB content you want the monitor to have an sRGB clamp or emulation modewhat's srgb clamp or emulation mode? can someone clarify this?
BIOS: updated5600: boughtedyeah im thinking the old 1600 is getting replaced tomorrow
>>88021875It's not even a headcanonWhat legiment reason would you use a lower end chipset on a high-end OCing board?
>>88020760>1648758332656.pngThat's it.I don't even know where the fuck to begin... Why do people like you find dead bodies something to joke about? You think because you get to sit in your warm homes on a computer that you can just joke about horrible things like this? What the actual fuck is wrong with you guys? Sick fucks, doing this shit does fucking nothing. So you want to come on an imageboard to be an asshole about things like this? Let me tell you guys, you are all fucking weak. You would never be useful to the world with such behavior you present. Honestly why do people like you guys even exist? I bet you don't even know about half of what people have gone through from then till now when they have someone they've known die. You are all such disgusting bullies. Isn't it bad enough that people go through hardships of their loved ones? Seriously what do you guys really find funny about this? Stupid fuckers I'm so angry right now that I wish I can fucking punch my computer screen so that my fist can get a good hit on that asshole face of yours, OP. Sick fucks. Seriously, just fucking grow up and actually act properly about death. Stupid fuck, keep eating those cheetoes that you stain on your shirts every day.I mean, I knew 4 chan was a disgusting place, but holy FUCKNever coming back to this website AGAIN
>>88022057Because they can.
>>88022149Does it mean they should?Why accept the premise?
>>88022102is this pasta?
>>88022176Because I have links to back up my argument and you don't.
>>88022102Never forget the 6 million Chinos!! Pic related is one Chino uttering her last words before eventually succumbing to the Zyklon B gas.
>>88022218Back up what argument? That since chipsets are cheap that boards will? That vendors will be oh so gracious to pass the savings?
>>88022264I'm not seeing any links to your headcanon is still irrelevant.
Gotta quick question for you guys, I'm rebuilding my VR computer, going from a ryzen 3600x to a 5800x since I have an extra 5800x laying around. I currently am cooling the 3600x using the NZXT m22 as I like the way it looks. Can I reuse the m22 for the 5800x or is that going to run too hot? I have a spare noctua u12s I could use but I'm trying to keep it looking good so I would rather not use it.
how big of an upgrade would it be to go from i7-3610QM and gt 635m to 5600 and 6600 xt?
>>88021681No, but that would be fucking hilarious if it did...
>>88022434Eating shit in front of white people to pwn them
>>88022460Calm down there, Diogenes
>>88022431Bout three fiddy.
>>88022322You haven't proved your links are relevant.They are many many things other than chipsets that go into the price of a motherboard. Including how much margin the vendor wants.
>>88021465SSDs are required in order to not have extremely slow load times or hiccups in games these days, what with 100+GB of assets and huge textures everywhere.
>>88022570get 100+GB of RAM and have the kernel cache it all in RAM??? why get SSD
OFFICIAL RELEASES FOR NEW SHIT WHEN?
is this true of fake news.My motherboard tuf b550-plusand my psu nzxt c750
>>88022367NZXT m22 with 5800X????e.
>>88022558And yet I'm not seeing any links to support your headcanon.
>>88022028That's a really big jump in performance, enjoy.
>>88022711Yeah, im wondering if the m22 will be able to keep it cool enough.
>>88022028As a 1950x and titan xp user, I am frothing at the mouth to upgrade. I don't trust the wiring in my house enough to think about the 4090 ti, though. Holy fuck.
>>880226052 more weeks.
>>88022102Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it...
>>88022839Grabbing a 4080 and undervolting till I get it to 300 watts. Fucking stupid, but that performance is going to be fucking amazing.
>>88022839800 fucking watts
>>88022898Yea being a shit troll is so funny, so funny i forgot to laugh.If you wanna be a fucktard why don't you come here and say it to my face so i can answer you with a swift fist to the nose.Yeah you have a lot to say from hundreds of miles away but i bet if my fists were in reach of your face you would be like a tv on mute with no volume button So do yourself a favor and keep your mouth shut unless you want to die. Next time you think about saying something like that to me I want you to remember one thing. I know the guy that created google maps and I can locate you in the time it took me to type this. I trained in mike tysons gym, did i mention that I also have a record of 50 knockouts? Don't want anymore problems....didn't think so faggots.You have any idea what gorilla warfare is? I do, I was in the US Marine Core and I perfected it. I'm fully capable of using it on you motherfuckers. I will also bring my boys with me, My men are well armed and very foolhardy. and I have access to an arsenal of Uzis, Ak 47s and R-15s, if only you had thought a little more and you would not have to pray for your life. Do you even know the danger your're in if I find you? I am 100$ serious. Bunch of god damn newfag loser's here and I will not have it. At least I've had sex, had girlfriends, and gotten laid, and blowjobbed unlike you virgin pieces of unpatriotic SHIT!!!
>>880226621 more month AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>88022833At stock probably.
>>88023047Okay well I'll give it a shot this weekend then and report back.
>>88020825Thanks for your service, they even had removed the 12400F altogether for a while as well. It's even a bit cheaper than it used to be, Amazon has it for 155 today.
>>88023124And 5600 is $150 and better. Get bent.
>>88023204Monitor autists are busy adjusting their monitor settings.
Is now the right time to sell my AM4 mobo + ZEN3 CPU?I genuinely think it's gonna go down in value when AM5 and Raptor Lake get released.
>>88023337Definitely less risky than selling your GPU thinking scalpers or miners won't ruin everything.
Speaking of monitors, does anyone really use motion blur reduction? It's a setting I noticed on my iiyama monitor (I guess in other monitors it should have a similar name) and I don't see the point of using this over freesync besides killing your fucking eyes.
I've been on an i5-3570k and GTX 670 for almost a decade now and I finally have some income to put towards a new rig. It would be mainly for gaming, remote IT work and multi-stream drifting to scratch my /vt/ itch. Thoughts on this build?Region: UShttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/mf4wmr
>>88021362>ssd dies on you after half a yeargreat
I was going to give you advice but you're a /vt/ranny
>>88023298Are 120% srgb better than 100% rgb monitors?
>>88023379Who me? Nah my home is /ptg/
>>88023357Only for fast paced games if you have a strong CPU and GPU
>not even a normal /vt/ranny but an english /vt/ranny
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xWkj4D/benq-ew3270u-315-3840x2160-60-hz-monitor-ew3270uIs this a good secondary/media monitor?
>>88023359Assuming $2000 is your budget, you can do much better than that.
>>88023173The 5600 is $160 from both Amazon and Newegg you ape. However you could get the 12400F for $150 for a while recently though.
>>88023450$2.5k is my ceiling but I'd rather keep it closer to $2k
>>88023481what would you suggest then? like I said it''s just going to be a secondary monitor
>>88023481it's a media monitor, retard
>>88023445yea, its very good for media, being a 4k va.and its acceptable for text/browsing/discord/etcif media is not a priority, you should probably stick with a cheaper 27/4k/60hz ips you should be able to save ~100 shekels and get better text quality, at the cost of much worse contrast and less FOV for your media playback
>>88023485You could go for 12700 if you think you're gonna use the multicore since you mentioned IT work and multi-stream.
>>88023498>newegg promo codeOk.
>>88023440Why the /vt/ hate?
Anons, I have 5 (five) 2.5in SATA SSDs.One 265gb for Windows, three 1tb drives for general storage and one 2tb for backups and media.Is it time to swallow the NVME pill?
>>88023636No, swallow the HDD pill for backups.
>>88023594they're the bronies/furries from this generation
>>88023706>*click*click*click*>*taptaptap*>whirrrrrrrwhat's that? your 2tb of Proxy Paige porn in 4k is gone? too bad!
>>88023738Don't buy shitgate.
>>88023636>>88023706This. There is absolutely NO reason you need NVME over SSD. If you are expert enough to run specialized software that actually benefits from it, then you wouldn't be asking here in the first place.SSDs for main drives, back them up every day to multiple HDDs. Easy. There's even the W7 automatic backup feature (still in W10 too) if you need an easy-mode.Redundancy should be your #1 concern, thank me later. I've learned the hard way in the past
>>88022913Would it even run with that low an undervolt? Is it part silicone lottery?
>>88023748my only HDD that I bought with my own money gave me issues after 16 months of usage. It was a WD drive as well>>88023774to be fair I'd rather encrypt the data and back it up to a 3rd party cloud. HDDs are too fragile
>>88023789>BOUGHT ONE HDD ONCE AND IT DIED THEREFORE HDD FRAGILE SSD GOOD
>>88023814>bought one HDD new>died a little more than a year in>bought plenty of SSDs>still going strong after 5+ years of daily usageSSD > HDD. HDDs are only good for mass storage, backups or NASs where you have some parity in case one of them shits itself
>>88021362>What happened to getting whatever was cheapest?Fucking kek, do retards like you actually exist? You buy known good SSDs by value, not "get the cheapest bro".
>>88023650Sorry mate I just found it in my random folder. I'll try searching my chino collection to see if I can find it.
>>88023789It's already unlikely enough that BOTH your main SSD and your backup HDD will fail at the same time.But if you really care about your data that much, that's when you backup to at least 2 separate drives. Different manufacturers/models/batches too if you really want to get autistic about it.
>>88023836My SSD from 2018 is already at ~60% health, and my HDD from 2005 still works fine.
should I buy the ARCTIC P12? I've seen that there's a 5-pack for 30 bucks, and they have been shilling it quite a bit
>>88023902what SSD? what HDD?I can guarantee your 2018 SSD either has no cache or is a chink-tier brand AND your 2005 HDD has way too many reallocated sectors and will off itself the moment you try to do any real work with it
>>88023924>computer flies away
>>880239502005 HDD is 120gb Caviar with 90% health2018 SSD is ADATA 128gb
>>88023924Do you really need that many fans?
>>88023854What does value even mean?? You could say Kingston is best value, but that doesn't make them the most resilient.
I have an RX 6900 XT, connected to my 1080p 144 Hz monitor via DisplayPort. One minute, it was working fine, the next, it stopped. Now, only HDMI works. If I plug the DisplayPort cable in, Windows detects it as a 720p 60 FPS monitor, but when I select the DisplayPort input on my monitor, it just says "No signal."I plugged it into a different monitor (4K) via DisplayPort, and it works, except it only goes up to 30 FPS for some reason.If I don't get this solved soon, I am actually going to kms. What the fuck do I do?
>>88024183>What the fuck do I do?you learn from the mistake and never buy an AMD GPU again
Whats a cheap good PS I can replace in my emachines t3882? Needs 20 pin and molex connector.
>>88024183Try a different DP cable? Sounds like a bandwidth issue.
>>88024227>burns house downThanks nvidia.
>>88024265it was a joke. But really if you bother spending more than 300$ on a GPU, you should not have to put up with shit drivers or do troubleshooting. Unfortunately this is exactly what you have to do with AMD cards.
>>88024281Enjoy being homeless.
this taiwan business is making me think I should pull the trigger on a new PC now anyone else thinking the same thing or am I wrong?
>>88024143Kingston cheap ssds are absolute dogshit, 90% of them shit the bed after ~6 months of use.>>88022431Big.
>>88024227You would not believe how many PC problems I've had over the last couple of months. I am genuinely on the verge of becoming an hero, and that's all you can say? What's wrong with you?>>88024240It can't be. It worked fine for weeks on this DP cable.
>>88024295no sir wait and buy zen5 at 200% markupchina is pressuring taiwan, prease undastandu
>>88023650Good news - I found it Bad news - It's absolutely repulsive. The only good part is her face. Not only is it cuckshit, she also has hag tits. https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95547642
>>88024295Chinks are pussies, don't worry about it. It's always the opposite happening, Russia denied the invasion and still does despite reality, China however threatens the US while not doing anything, all bark no talk.
>>88024305>You would not believe how many PC problems I've had over the last couple of monthsif they bothered you so much, can you list them out in a few simple terms?>>88024314>anime shitters have shit tastecolor me surprised
>>88024305>It can't be. It worked fine for weeks on this DP cable.Still worth a try. Have you tried reinstalling the drivers as well? Maybe something got fucked there. Doubtful if you don't use tools like CRU, but still.
Is there any power consumption difference between ITX and mATX?
>>88023729Are you comparing anime girls with ponies and furshit?
>>88024390No discernable power differences.
>>88024314>https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95547642I can fap to this
>>8802435095% of boards on this site are non anime-relatedget fucked, weeb faggot
>>88024487Keep seething tourist. Anime board, website, and internet.
>>88024357Yes, I re-installed the drivers. Unfortunately I don't have any other DP cables.I should mention this started when I first turned my PC on. It came up like normal (using DP), and then I got an error message about it not being able to find my OS. I've had this same issue before, and I'm 99% certain it's because my SSD may be dying (although picrel says otherwise). When that happens, I fix it by going into the mobo's BIOS and manually selecting the SSD from the list of boot devices. For some reason, when I did that, the entire PC froze. I had to hold the power button down to shut it off. When I turned it back on, no more DP.
>>88024534Hiro also said there are no retarded people on 4chan.
I'm trying to build a budget pc for a friend.He only pretends to play league.Thats what I had in mind, any suggestions?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZRF3Nc
>>88024534>this picYup, thanks for proving my point newfaggot
>>88024396I'm comparing their fan bases yesthe same shit furries were hated for, bronies started doing and now /vt/rannies are doing the same shit
Does anyone have any advice on builds/parts for a PC intended for creating motion graphics? I’m trying to put something together for a family member, and my knowledge of parts is more centered around conventional video editing and high end gaming stuff. A lot of the fancies bells and whistles and high performance parts seem like overkill for motion graphics, but I’m not sure to what extent it can be compared to video editing PCs.
>>88024708isn't that essentially the same workload as animation?
>>88024697>newfag tourist is also a /pol/troon
>>88024739>pol>troon>in an argument about 4chan not being an anime websitethis website has poisoned your mind
>>88024753NTA but poltroon is an actual word.
>>88024537>I've had this same issue before, and I'm 99% certain it's because my SSD may be dying (although picrel says otherwise). When that happens, I fix it by going into the mobo's BIOS and manually selecting the SSD from the list of boot devices. For some reason, when I did that, the entire PC froze. I had to hold the power button down to shut it off. When I turned it back on, no more DP.the fuck
>>88024722I’d assume so, but I’m not familiar enough with the software or process to say for sure. I do believe motion graphics people tend to use assets/asset transformation a lot more than conventional animators.
>>88024537>>88024844It looks like it's working now. I tried plugging the monitor into a different wall socket, and DP suddenly started working.
>>88024882Good to hear
>>88024313Still not buying your bending housefires, intelaviv.
>>88024882I was gonna say it seemed like you had an issue with voltages or something similar. These things are sensitive, you need decent power delivery or you'll run into all sorts of weird issues and can easily permanently damage some components.
19k on the dot thanks for the help undervolt bros
Heads up, if you use a B550 gigabyte and you use the onboard Realtek NIC you might not want to use the latest w11 drivers. Haven't tested the 10 ones, but the 11 drivers exhibit a problem that network drivers for these boards used to have over a year ago where your connection might go down if you download something at high speeds. I can't believe they regressed there.
>>88025079Damn, how much of an undervolt
I tried to overclock my new 6800 xt using the amd adrenaline software. I just clicked the preset overclock and nothing else but my GPU crashes from that. It's fine otherwise.Did I lose the silicon lottery or?
>>88025103Windows 11 is still in beta phase no matter what retards might tell you.
>>88025144This is a problem with Realtek drivers though. It was a problem on windows 10 in fact, for pretty much a whole fucking year. I had to buy a different network PCIe card because it was that bad. They fixed it at some point but I guess now we're going back to it.
For a top-mounted cooler radiator, where the fans are mounted above the radiator on the top of the case...Does it matter which way the fans are oriented? Like air flowing into the case or out of the case?The case also has 3 fans on the front blowing inwards, and 1 fan on the back blowing outwards
>>88025137Now I undervolted my GPU and it scored better than it did stock
>>88025186You should have listened
>>88025137the cards are already being pushed to the limits in the first place. overclocking is a meme nowadays, same thing with cpu's
>>88025113its a oc+uv. core was running 1.15v and 2.3ghz at stock. now its running 1.04v and 2.5ghz.>>88025137never use automatic oc.
>>88025196Shit all the way down to 1.04v. I can't go below 1.09v on my 6600xt, anything below is unstable as shit.
>>88025196>never use automatic oc.What about automatic undervolt?
>>88025196Can I see your adrenaline screenshot to see the vram tuning and min core clock and such?
Is it possible to gain or lose fps between different BIOS versions?For some reason the automatic settings on an older BIOS set vddg iop to 1.05v and the newer ones set it to 0.95v. I tested some game out without changing a thing, using the exact same other settings on the BIOS on both and got around 8fps more on the older BIOS than the newer one under the same exact conditions. Are these things correlated or am I missing something here? Maybe an AGESA version thing?
>>88025288>Is it possible to gain or lose fps between different BIOS versions?Yes
>>88025235It's not amazingly helpful. It just runs until it crashes and finds a value that doesn't, but it's not ideal to run an undervolt that doesn't crash easily but is still unstable.
>>88021362https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directstorage-is-coming-to-pc/We’re excited to bring DirectStorage, an API in the DirectX family originally designed for the Velocity Architecture to Windows PCs! DirectStorage will bring best-in-class IO tech to both PC and console just as DirectX 12 Ultimate does with rendering tech. With a DirectStorage capable PC and a DirectStorage enabled game, you can look forward to vastly reduced load times and virtual worlds that are more expansive and detailed than ever.Recent advancements in SSD and PCIe technologies, specifically NVMe technologies, allow gaming PCs to have storage solutions that deliver far more bandwidth than was ever possible with older hard drive technologies. Instead of tens of megabytes per second, drives like the upcoming Xbox Series X console’s custom NVMe can deliver a blazing-fast multiple gigabytes per second.NVMe is the storage technology of choice for DirectStorage and high-performance next generation gaming IO.
>>880252146600xts are based on navi23 die, 6800xts are based on navi21 same as 6900xt and 6950xt. the navi 21's are better binned from the factory.>>88025235the other anon explained it well.>>88025240here you go anon. currently playing vidya atm.
building my first pc since 2016 in a couple of days, any tips for essentially a first timer?
>>88025422Not him but, DirectStorage requires Window 11 and I heard bad things about Windows 11.
>>88025422>vastly reduced load timesGood>>88025504>requires Window 11Shit
>>88025554yeah i have all my parts ready i just wanted to know if someone has some tips for the actual build process to make it easier
>>88025602Don't fuck up
Will I regret X570 Aorus Ultra instead of X570 Aorus Master? CPU is currently 5700x, could be 5950x later. I can add another NIC in one of x1 slots.
>>88025684In what way regret it? Both are fine for 5950X.
>>88025760That's good to hear, thank you.
>>88025905>cpu delays>arc delays>stock plummetsintel is dying...
>>88025905WAITFAGS ARE YOU OK?ARE YOU OK WAITFAGS?
>>88025942>>88025905go woke go broke
>>88025504>>88025527It still works on Windows 10, but with nerf'd performance.
>>88025980>no AsiansAre Asians not considered minorities?
>>88025602Don't drop the screwdriver on the motherboard. Do not drink any alcohol while building it.
>>88021241CHINA WILL INVADE TAIWAN. BUY NOW GOY
>>88026035not reallywhites being the "majority" is kind of retarded in the first place, there are like twice as many chinese and twice as many indians than whites in the worldbut that's just how tech companies and pretty much all white countries work now lol, it's also cheaper labor for them
When the AC unit in my shitty apartment turns off, either my monitor or mouse will shut off for a couple seconds. Are these transient spikes going to fry my parts?
>>88025905>>88026018>Had its Arc GPUs shipped even a year ago, amid the worst of the chip shortage and booming crypto-mining craze, the comparison would have been much different. All Intel would have needed to do then was have a reasonably priced, lower-end GPU from its factories that people could actually buy. But Intel, as usual, missed its moment.Savage
>>88026071TSMC already inaugurated a new 5nm fab in the US recently.
>>88020648What's the fastest, easiest and most foolproof method of re-applying thermal paste
>>88026131Don't re-apply thermal paste. Problem solved.
>>88026166b-but /r/pcmasterrace told me the cpu will get hotter
>>88025602yeah I got some tips0) make sure your workspace is a hard flat surface, preferably wood or stone (DO NOT use a staticky plastic table -- it could be fine, but why risk it?), and make sure you have room to move around it, or if you're big enough, to pick up and move the case around to see things from all angles1) open everything and make sure it's in good condition before you start assembling anything. check for screws and motherboard standoffs with the case, make sure the PSU isn't bent in or damaged, make sure you have all your PSU wires, etc etc2) install the power supply first, and route the necessary wires where you will need them3) go ahead and install the CPU and RAM into the motherboard before you install the motherboard into the case. you can install the CPU cooler if it's a stock cooler but if it is a bigass tower cooler or CLC then wait until you get the board mounted in the case4) connect all wires to mainboard after installing it to the case but before installing anything else to it (bigass CPU cooler, video card, etc)5) AFTER you get the machine reliably booting but BEFORE you install Windows, disable the Legacy Compatibility Support Module (CSM) to force UEFI booting -- don't enable XMP until after you get your OS installed6) if you are using Windows, download GPU drivers to a flash drive or your phone and install them before you connect the internet7) if you want to avoid a lot of headaches with windows, don't use: virtualization-based security microsoft account (stick with local account, you can do this even in win11)bitlocker or other drive encryptionany antivirus including windows defenderexploit protectionuser account controlyou don't need any of these things, they are for faggots
>>88026113You don't have to worry if you have a solid PSU, otherwise yeah you should worry.
>>88026184I bought a surge protector with a line filter. Hopefully that helps. I'm not even plugged into the same circuit as the AC unit. Dunno how this would happen.
>>88026183>any antivirus including windows defenderLiterally nothing wrong with windefender
>>88026183That's a bad call on the antivirus. Getting a basic free one is a good idea at least.
Redpill me on white cases.Do they need significantly more maintenance than black ones?
>>88026172Been years since I re-applied mine, fuck that, temps are fine.
>>88026228defender causes minor but annoying performance issues that you will notice when you stop allowing it to slow down your machine for no reasonalso, lol intel users: https://www.techpowerup.com/295877/windows-defender-can-significantly-impact-intel-cpu-performance-we-have-the-fix>>88026233do you have monkeypox? stop letting yourself get fucked in the ass by strangers and stop letting your PC get fucked in the ass by random .jpg.exe bullshit you downloaded from a chinese website hoping to see 13 year old pussy
>>88026285just using windows defender is fine you autist, you will not notice any performance hit
>>88026266You'll likely incur a premium on white parts to go along with it, but they can look amazing if done well. That however is another thing, you have to try or else anything weird or mismatched will standout a lot and make it an eyesore instead.
>>88026285Real-time protection does that sometimes, it scans anything you access. You can disable that feature if you're gayming or whatever.
>>88026285Avast is a good free antivirus
>>88026309I got mostly black/silver components with some brown and beige noctua fans and am curious to see how the build would turn out with a white case.Never got one gor myself though I have built some PCs with white cases and they turned out quite nice.
>>88026327So are Norton and mcafee. You can even install all three and use them with windows defender for the best protection.
>>88026346I didn't know those two were free, are the free versions gimped or something?
>>88026271I did a bunch of troubleshooting on my pc and had to use some 7 year old Arctic 4 paste. It was super dried out and hard to smear on. When up and running the CPU temps were identical to the old fresh Kryonaut.
>>88026317just turn it off altogether. heuristics will never catch anything real, all false positives, and profile-based detection can only protect you from threats that it knows about, which are easily avoidedlike what are you actually using windows defender for? have you ever thought about it? where would you get malware? why are you letting microsoft scan every single file on your PC whenever it wants?it's "feel good" insurance for retards, stop using it>>88026327pic related
>>88026368I used to get viruses all the time before Windows 10. MS Defender works.
>>88026358Yes they have free versions. Best practice is to install as many antivirus as you can. If one fails, you'll have another 15 to catch any stray viruses that have gotten into your electrical sockets.
All windows defender has done for me is defending me from false positives on Discord when some faggot posts the stupid rat picture with the embed
>>88026400Thanks, I'll look into adding those two
>>88026397I've been building PCs since 1989I have over a dozen PCs running on the internet right now in this buildingI have never, ever been malware'dyou are a retard and possibly a faggot
>>88026444Ok boomer, how do you stop clickjacking?
>>88026444Did you know that globally, an estimated two-thirds of the population under 50 are infected with herpes simplex virus? They just don't have any symptoms.
>>88026472use noscript retard
>>88026444i just imagine an old man somewhat bald but chad looking wrinkled with a bottle of beer just typing on his computer "you are a retard and possibly a faggot"
>>88026444In the early days how most people got viruses I remember was through Java exploits. You load up a porn page and if you had a keen eye you would notice Java running in task manager when it shouldn't be and then next thing you know you have malware downloaded on your PC.
>>88026510>old man somewhat bald but chad looking wrinkled with a bottle of beer just typing on his computer "you are a retard and possibly a faggot"
>>88026502>just break all websites broO-okay...
>>88026510I shaved my shit in the 90s when I started going thin on top, fuck pretending>>88026531>load up a porn pageyou need jesus, allah, buddha, zeus, some kind of moral center, son. your addiction to these unwholesome pastimes led you down the path of bullshit software, repent and stop looking at sluts on the internet, hit the gym, straighten up your life, and go fuck actual bitches instead of jerking your pud and cursing your lot in life>>88026531yeah, there were a few big java exploits, but back then sun was pretty quick about getting patches out for the JRE -- although if you were smart you installed the browser plugin in a browser you used for work/banking/etc and then did casual browsing in another, more secure browser>>88026554pic related
>>88026616>go fuck actual bitchest. aids
>>88026616upload selfie lol
>>88026407Based Defender telling you discord is cancer.
>>88025602get a plate or icecube tray to hold your screws so they don't get lostground yourself by touching a grounded objectfront/side/bottom are for intake fans and rear/top are for exhaust fansput your Mobo ontop of your Mobo packing box and install your CPU and RAM first it's easier when it's outside of the casefor thermal paste you want a nice pea in the middle if you have Intel or a X as in X3D if you have a Ryzenrecord yourself building it so you can see where you went wrong in the future
>>88021285More feminist bullshit tranny names.
>>88026725>nice pea in the middle if you have Intel or a X as in X3D if you have a RyzenWhy the difference?
>>88026802Turns out dinosaurs really got BTFO'd by Raphi.
>>88021313any ssd with motherfucking DRAM
>>88026876Any significant difference between SSD DRAM speeds or something?
>>88026876An anon was recomending the SN770 NVMe in the last thread. It has great stats, but lacks a DRAM cache. Does that matter on 4th gen NVMe?https://www.techpowerup.com/review/wd-black-sn770-1-tb/
Random question, but did the 4chan filename string just get a little bit longer? Why?
>>88025177make sure your cable is cat 6 and new, every LAN disconnection issues goes away when i changed my cable. using b550m aorus elite.
>>88020723So the pins are on the motherboard now? That's new for AMD, I think?
>>88026924No, still 16 digits long at this point.
>>88020723Nice, will use this for the next OP
>>88027010DRAM cache is only a big deal for old, slow SATA SSDs. I think NVMe 4.0 doesn't need it. At least for gaming. I just want something that will complement the new Direct Storage system that links the GPU and SSD together.https://linustechtips.com/topic/1260329-does-the-nvme-drive-have-dram-on-it/
>>88027041Wait, hang on, that's 13 digits...So they didn't "just" get longer, but they've been longer since a few days ago. Was that after the server problems where the site was down all night?
>>88027057Haha you noticed it now?
>>88026921yes, absolutely -- the PCIe bus interface only defines the maximum transfer rate, it has nothing to do with random transfers, which is what the DRAM cache helps withNAND is still actually quite slow in terms of latency compared to DRAM, more than 3 orders of magnitude slower for even the fastest NAND out there, and it's these random transfers that are the most important performance characteristic for any storage device you run applications fromgo grab crystaldiskmark and run a 4K random read test with queue depth 1 and 1 thread -- that's your 'real world' speed test for SSDs. any other speed test is bullshit>>88027014not exactly -- threadripper and EPYC have always been LGA -- but new for AMD desktop, yeah
>>88027078So would a 3.0 with dram cache be better than a 4.0 without?
>>88027078These guys are saying NVMe drives can devote part of themselves to SLC caching. Is that a proper replacement for dram cache? IDK shit about SSDs.https://linustechtips.com/topic/1190846-why-are-most-m2-nvme-ssds-without-dram-cache/Most of them use SLC caching. Meaning a portion of the SSD is not running in the (relatively) slower TLC/QLC format, but rather in SLC.How large your SLC cache is depends on how much of the SSD you are using currently.
>>88027103that depends on a lot of factors, but specifically for application launching and boot times, it is extremely likely to be the case, yes
>>88027138yes, SLC caching is a thing, but it still can't overcome the high access latency of NAND flash relative to DRAM; it's not a replacement for a DRAM cache -- nevermind the fact that you cant USE SLC caching when the drive is over 50% full, lolDRAM cache also helps preserve the durability of the SSD because less accesses hit the NAND
>>88026786monolith vs chiplet+io die
>>88027208What's a good, budget PCIe 4.0 NVMe with DRAM cache?
>>88027078https://www.techpowerup.com/review/wd-black-sn770-1-tb/17.htmlGood that we also do extensive real-life testing with actual applications (not disk traces) and the drive at 80% full, which is much harder to optimize for. Here, the WD Black SN770 achieves unbelievable results that match or exceed the more expensive and higher-positioned WD Black SN850, Samsung 980 Pro, and Kingston KC3000. In the match-up SN850 vs. SN770, the SN770 does have a little bit of a hardware advantage because it uses faster 112-layer flash, whereas the SN850 uses the slower 96-layer NAND, which apparently is enough to make up for the lack of DRAM, and the 4-channel interface. Another important win is that the SN770 beats the DRAM-less Samsung 980 non-Pro by 4%, and the best PCIe 3.0 drives are 3-5% behind. Once again, the SN770 is a DRAM-less SSD design, which usually have terrible random write performance, especially when the writes are spread over a larger area, which is due to the DRAM-cache being emulated in flash, which is much slower. Seems WD figured out a magic bullet to overcome this problem. If you showed me the real-life performance results of the SN770, there's no way I'd come to the conclusion that this is a DRAM-less drive.We dug deeper and specifically tested random write performance across a wide range of sizes and uncovered that the SN770 barely loses much performance with a larger data area—it's almost like magic. What's astonishing is just how much better WD's algorithms work—300K IOPS in a test where other DRAM-less drives get 30K IOPS, so 10x as high—no wonder this drive is fast. I only wish everybody could learn more about the secret sauce and license it for their own controllers—it would start a revolution for SSDs, making DRAM cache chips obsolete for all but the most high-end designs. However, I'm quite positive that WD is keeping this a closely guarded secret, so they can sell more of their own product, which is well-deserved, of course
>>88027262>budget NVMe with DRAM cacheno such thing, but you can check prices on these drives:seagate firecuda 530corsair MP600 Pro XTsabrent rocket 4 plussamsung 980 proWD black SN850PNY XLR8 CS3140 / CS3040ADATA XPG S70 BladeTEAM Cardea A440SK Hynix "Gold" seriesHP EX9xx seriesI haven't looked at the latest SSD releases so I'm a little out of date but most of those should still be available and they're all equipped with DRAM>>88027319yeah, I read that review too. I find it pretty suspect to be honest, but really all you need to do is go read page 6. DRAMless is trash
>>88027383https://www.techpowerup.com/review/wd-black-sn770-1-tb/6.htmlDoes write speed affect gaming? Will it nerf Direct Storage?
>>88027436not really, and probably not, but think of it this way -- you might save, what, $20? $30? by buying this drive, and you're going to have it for years... why would you save a few bucks to get an objectively inferior option?
>>88027487It's more like $50-100. My old shitbox SATA SSDs do fine for any of my tasks.
>>88027515hey, I love my SATA SSDs too -- I got a couple OCZ Vertex 3 and Vector drives, and a 1TB Mushkin Reactor still kicking around here :)
>>88027487https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-directstorage-could-be-supported-by-current-hardwareAccording to this it's read speeds that matter for Direct Storage. Does write speed affect gaming at all?
>>88027596the short answer is no, not right now, but it may not always be that waywrite _latency_ absolutely can affect frame pacing in games like Elden Ring where the game is constantly overwriting your savebut Unreal Engine 5 is also bringing back virtual texturing, which id software called "megatexture", and that game typically used a texture cache which it was constantly updating—that game's textures were low-enough resolution that it worked even on the PS3 HDD, but future UE5 games may want faster SSDs, particularly in terms of latencyit's also possible that people might, y'know, copy games around, or just move files around—I sure prefer when my files copy between SSDs at > 2GB/sec and not sub-SATA speeds
>>88024697Counting fucking pokemon as a "non-anime" board is really shooting yourself in the foot. Everything else in your image is blatantly false too, but pokemon was openly announcing you're trolling.