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NATURE IS HEALING
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>>87469530
Still fucked in Europe.
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>>87469530
Wholesome, reddit 100
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>buying second hand worked to death cards from a Chinese wet market
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>>87469530
GOOD NOW I CAN CONSOOM AND GOOM
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>>87469530
I have that one, that is if thats a sapphire rx 480, probably not looking at the fan logos
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>>87469530
also, wtf are they doing? putting those in new pre built computers? haahahaha... thayts why you never buy that shit.
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UNVIDA CARD BUY HERE!
THREE DORRA EACH!
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>>87469530
*rains*
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>having tons of computar parts in open air with no cover
these pictures make me anxious as h*ck
I hope there's a sudden rainfall where those morons live
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>>87469530
fucking disgusting
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NO REFUNDS
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>>87469530
WTF I can't wait to buy a second hand chink GPU with one gazillion hours that lied outside for days.
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>>87470159
for the same price as a new gpu, you'll even get 10% off :D
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>>87470023
>wtf are they doing? putting those in new pre built computers?
without any ESD protection, it appears
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>>87469545
What do you mean?

A 3060 Ti can be had for 400€. It was still 600€ a month ago. I'm in western Europe.
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>>87470214
Kind of sad considering lass stummer turning the short drop when China flooded the market, I got a 2070 Super for 450€ with warranty.
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>>87470214
>A 3060 Ti can be had for 400€
Where? Used, maybe. New, 500+, usually 600
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>>87470214
New is 500-530 for the absolutely lowest tier of shit models.
If you think buying a Manli 3060ti for 500€ is good, be my guest.
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>>87470229
>lass stummer
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>>87469950
i hate this fucking narrative pedelled by retards who think gpus are sentient human fucking beings and don't 'want' to do the work.

mining is done on underclocked cards in temperature controlled conditions at continuous loads. it is literally the best case scenario for GPUs
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>>87470030
Chinese can pronounce L's you dummy.
It's Japs that replace them with R's.
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>>87470855
>who think gpus are sentient human fucking beings and don't 'want' to do the work
It's pedelled by retards who think giant mining farms operate the same way as amatuer kitchen setup does.
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>>87470046
>not washing your GPU in the rain every other month

Not going to make it
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>>87470855
>>87470905
not buying your leftovers, chang
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>>87470855
There is no narrative, I'm just not buying useds
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>3080 Ti below MSRP
hallelujah
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>>87470855
>i hate this fucking narrative pedelled by retards who think gpus are sentient human fucking beings and don't 'want' to do the work.
Nah, it's companies gaslighting.
Buying new cards only enriches billion-dollar companies.
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No thanks, I'm buying a new radeon card.
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>>87469545
This. RX 6900 XT still at 1000 € and the RX 6800 XT is basically the same price.

>>87470214
As if some one cares about that gimped GPU.
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>>87471089
What if I neither want to support greedy nvdidia and AMD nor cryptocucks?
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>>87471144
then you wait for intel's cards
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>>87470855
Still cards that where run 24/7 at full load instead 8/7 at low load. Everything in the card was under constant stress and the fans are really worn out.

I would buy a used crypto card, but only if it is really cheap. I would pay 30 € for a 3080 or 6080XT.
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>>87471173
I hate Intel more than both of them combined tho
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>>87471144
Literally all the companies involved in GPUs (and the AIBs) have all participated in the crypto market by directly supplying the people who mine.
Kinda of a judgment call there
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>>87470855
This, is just a narrative that companies implanted so retards buy the new stuff at full price
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chink shit
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>>87471218
So do I support them or the miners by buying used?

There is no way to fuck both of them over
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>>87471276
buy new, prices are rapidly falling. it's just a bunch of chinks in here constantly posting OPs of their liquidation, dying to get a fraction of their investments back
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>>87470045
first thought lol
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>>87471200
>Everything in the card was under constant stress and the fans are really worn out.
People who say this misunderstand one of the biggest failure modes of a GPU.
GPUs often fail because of thermal CYCLE stress, not thermal stress.
Warming up and cooling down does way more damage then just being warm, it stresses solder joints and interconnects more. It's why when a GPU does die reflowing can sometimes bring it back to life as solder joints are reconnected

What you'll also find in stuff that is suppose to last decades is they are often ran close to the limits. Solar micro inverters for example are purposely undersized so they always run closer to peak efficiency and stay a constant temp throughout the day and all to minimize thermal cycling.
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>>87471314
Running the caps and VRMs at >100°C 24/7 is a sure way to fuck your graphics card.

The GPU "chip" itself won't die. The card will still stop working
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>>87471336
The caps and VRMs are never going to get that hot because the GPU is never going to run at 100% in the first place
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Seeing this:

Is a big GPU crash imminent?

And not like 'It now costs MSRP'-crash.
I mean fucking worthless tier trash.

Something must happen if miners throw all their used GPUs in the market at once.
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>>87471363
>I mean fucking worthless tier trash
No
>Something must happen if miners throw all their used GPUs in the market at once.
Yeah, we go from "way above MSRP" to "slightly below MSRP"
Sorry man, you're not getting an $800 GPU for $50
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>>87471314
I get that. But most GPUs don't see any stress at all the whole week and then some on the weekend. Having high voltage on the chip sure degenerates the chip itself.
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>>87471374
This can't be right if miners flood the market all at once with their 2 years of stock of GPUs
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>>87471200
Electromigration takes decades at the very least to provoke any measurable degradation on the chip, and it's a considerably slow process under 60°C. So if your point is "the card was used at full load 24/7 so it obviously wore down", then no, this logic is a fallacy, we're not talking about the tyres or break pads of your car.
You'll degrade the VRMs and capacitors of your board much, much faster by gaming a few hours a day at 70-80°C. Every 10°C above 50°C, the lifespan of these components gets divided by two.
The enemy of electronics is heat, not usage, and mining farms are infamous of having huge complex cooling systems for their rigs.
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I refuse to buy miners used cards because i honestly and genuinely hate miners. Ill never buy a used card again because id rather tear off my own gonads than give a single penny to a miner for any reason
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>>87471390
>it's another episode of "retard thinks computer chips are like bars of soap that get used up as they're operated"
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>>87471442
based
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>>87471405
>no this can't be right because I don't want it to be!
Don't know what to tell you kid. It's not going to drop prices that far below MSRP because miners aren't going to price them much lower than that.
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>>87471390
But again if your mining the chip should never see high core voltages.
This really is something similar to a car with highway miles vs city miles.
I fully understand why someone is paranoid of mining cards, apparently AIBs must not make very reliable equipment for all this paranoia to exist but based on what is known the cards should be fine.
The only thing that is in the air is what price they will be
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>>87471442
based
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>>87471336
>Running the caps and VRMs at >100°C 24/7 is a sure way to fuck your graphics card.
Good thing they never do. A mining GPU sitting on a shelf with AC blasting cold air 24/7 is better cooled than your single 3070 sitting in a cramped, closed case with minimal airflow.
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>>87471442
>more happy giving money to rich people than giving money to people who want to "make it"
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>>87471477
They totally abuse the vram which is far more likely to fail than the actual gpu.
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>retards ITT forgetting that gpu memory is overclocked to shit when mining

Enjoy your artifacts, hope the money you saved was worth it!
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>>87471495
As if gamers don't do the same?
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>>87471478
More happy to give a manufacturer money than a fucking parasite.
YES
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>>87471471
>Don't know what to tell you kid. It's not going to drop prices that far below MSRP because miners aren't going to price them much lower than that
It's demand and supply and if the supply gets fucking flooded all at once, then that would crash the price down, wouldn't it?


Other question:

When do you think we will reach the absolute minimum of prices for the foreseeable future? This summer?
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>>87471477
yea sure, the cryptotard you'll buy your card from will totally make sure they're at room temperature all the time
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>>87471486
Erase cycles is only one parameter among many that dictates RAM/VRAM degradation, the most important still being temperature and thermal cycles.
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>>87471505
most people don't OC
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>>87471505
Gamers don't even know how to smell their own farts
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>>87471505
Maybe. Even if they do, they don't run it like that at full load 24/7 for months at a time
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>>87471518
Yes they do care, if electricity is cheap enough to make a profit, then A/C will be cheaper than having to replace GPUs regularly.
Also they don't want thermal throttling to reduce their performances, that's why they also undervolt their cards.
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>>87471528
All cards are OC'ed out of factory nowadays.
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>>87471510
>When do you think we will reach the absolute minimum of prices for the foreseeable future?
This is like asking when the stock market is going to go up. Anyone who claims to know is just guessing and bullshitting you.
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>>87471510
A month or two, they'll be phased out by then as Lovelace gets close to release date.
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>>87471573
This time they have way less miners looking forward to it.
Who's gonna drive the price up now that we know it was miners that caused pricegouging?
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>>87471560
Yes, I was asking for your opinion, because you seem more knowledgeable than most people here
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>>87471505
yeah I play my games with +5000 MHz on the memory chips all the time
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Won't the fans be fucked on these miner GPUs? How annoying is it to find replacement fans?
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>>87471598
My opinion is that I don't know, because nobody knows. If I had any information that allowed me to predict future market pricings better than average, I'd be a very rich man.
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>>87471545
>Yes they do care
Sure
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>>87471144
Get a Romanian GPU
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>>87471610
>How annoying is it to find replacement fans?
Not hard typically
I can still get fans for under $20 for my EVGA 1080 ti sc2
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>>87471619
Cleetus with his 5x GPU mining rig in his bedroom doesn't qualify as a "mining farm"
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>>87471486
>>87471526
WTF? RAM does wear out? I had no fucking idea. I knew SSDs do but that's all.
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>>87471646
Cleetus with 5x GPU mining rig is who you'll most likely end up buying a used GPU from.
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>>87471646
lmao yeah ok you can def tell the difference after all when you're buying used :)
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>>87471610
should be easy but it depends on how cheap you're willing to go
>replacing the fan vs replacing the whole cooling assembly
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>>87471652
It takes 5+ years for it to happen tho
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>>87471652
All electronics wear out, it just takes half a human lifetime for it to be noticeable in your PC. VRMs/caps will fail long before, solder too if you go through intense thermal cycles.
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>>87471610
Replacing the fans is literally the easiest replacement on a GPU

If you can't do that, go back to /v/
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>>87471615
Okay, so you won't share your knowledge with me.

I get it
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>>87471597
The usual customers? Tons of people are still sitting on their old GTX 9xx/GTX10xx and skipped two gens. My 2070S is three years old and I need more VRAM, so I'll likely change it. Those who change GPUs each new gen were stopped by the prices and shortages.
Now that the "shortage" is over, people will rush to get a new card. Expect the first 6 months to be expensive.
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>>87471673
honestly it might be better AND cheaper to just deshroud the entire thing and use some proper 120x25mm fans instead, depending on how hard it is to source the original fans
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>>87471728
And what happens if people like you buy a new GPU? They put their old GPU in the used market for cheap, which will lower prices again.
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>>87471728
>more vram
Are you really going to go from a 8gb 2070s to a 10gb 4070?
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>>87471812
no one's going to want my 970. need to find one of those recycling places or something
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>>87471822
9090ti founders edition 512GB DDR8 pcie x128
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>>87471822
Never said I'll get a 4070 wtf. Not only this is unconfirmed, but I'll likely get a 4080.
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>>87471873
>no one's going to want my 970.
Don't be so sure.
You can keep it "just in case" your new card fails, or you can sell it for 100$, it will sell.
I see people selling 1070s for 300$ all the time.
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must consoom
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>>87471873
I stopped buying budget low-end models of GPUs so at least when it turns useless I still have something that's cool to own
especially now when the FE/reference models stopped using shitty blower designs
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>>87469530
I see 3090s for 1000 bucks online. some only a few months old. Is it a good deal or should i wait for the 4000 series?
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>>87471898
>I see people selling 1070s for 300$ all the time.
Must be an isolated aera
Ebay already has 1080 TIs for $300
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stop making me want GPU i don't need an upgrade just to browse internet 247
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>just bought a 3060 ti founders edition for msrp from best buy
I'm so happy bros, all the waiting finally paid off
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>>87471921
you need one, you must buy one
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>>87471510
>if the supply gets fucking flooded all at once, then that would crash the price down, wouldn't it?
sure, but it's hard to tell how much exactly, also there's more to it since supply is somewhat flexible. meaning, as long as miners aren't under extreme pressure to sell right now (where extreme means something like you have to pay debt right now), they'll just decide to hold on to their stock should prices drop to crazy levels.
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>>87471922
>all the waiting finally paid off
sure did. about to buy a 3080 Ti below MSRP right now
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>>87471942
The real pressure is coming if the Ethereum proof of stake ever comes into fruition
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>>87471971
will NEVER happen, screenshot this
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>>87470855
Nice try, still not buying sloppy seconds
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cheap fried gpu's
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Buy new, or get scammed by chu
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i'd rather buy a new gt 1030 than a used rtx
fuck second hand
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>>87470393
Manli is just PCPartner/Zotac.
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The important thing isn't that people can buy these shitter second hand GPUs, it's that the demand for mining GPUs has dropped substantially, which in turn may result in more supply and better pricing for customers.

In reality though, the price hike will stay as is, or increase more becuase Jews gonna Jew
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>>87469530
PLEASE DONT BUY THEM! NVIDIA NEEDS MONEY YOU MUST BUY NEW.
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>>87472048
if nvidia uses all of the income to invest into research for even better gpu's then i'd say in the long-term the mining hype was worth it.
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Asked in the main pcbg thread already, might as well do it here:
I have a 750w psu, never risking going any higher than 3060-3070.
A 3060ti gigabyte eagle is now 520 shipped in Europe.
How much lower will it go? At this range you can only find garbage models like asus mini, inno3d, zotac, manli etc. all the good models are well above 580€.
>how much is 3070
600 starting for garbage models.
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>>87472061
>invest into research for more useless features to increase prices*
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>>87472061
>if nvidia uses all of the income to invest into research for even better gpu's
They will absolutely not do that
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>>87470884
Hes trying his best to be racist, dont call him a dummy
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>>87472089
they are doing that all the time since forever
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>>87472031
>>87472008
Isn't reluctance to buy second an admission most GPUs are garbage?
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>>87469530
what if a sudden downpour happens?
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>>87472146
there is 0 way to be sure how someone handled his hardware or how much it was used. and nobody will give you your money back if it breaks.
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>>87470205
ESD protection is for weak whitoids.
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>>87472199
I get that but that's literally anything used.
The reaction around used cards makes it seem like they WILL die regardless.
Are GPUs not built to good standards where they can be used for work for more than a few years?
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>>87472145
lmao no they aren't
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>>87472240
buying second hand pc parts is much safer then buying a secondhand car, cellphone or whatever
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support scalpers and miners
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>>87470855
>mining is done on underclocked cards in temperature controlled conditions at continuous loads. it is literally the best case scenario for GPUs
That is a big mother fugging IF. I member now that was a case in a US city that tracked down a mining site because it generated so much electromagnetic noise that it fucked up nearby cel towers.
So no, I dont think miners have the best intentions at hand when setting up their sites. Obviously I am not willing to make carpet statements, but after some horror stories I had read, I have a healthy dose of doubt with everything related to crypto.
>>87471314
>GPUs often fail because of thermal CYCLE stress, not thermal stress.
Well, its a factor thats for sure, it was this that killed millions of 360's and PS3, but the earlier generations of leadless solder caused that.
>>87471557
>All cards are OC'ed out of factory nowadays.
yeah, but most have a minimal level of it, its more for show than for performance. Every OV enthusiast forgets to tell you that to get a nice chuck of extra performance the watt consumption of the device itself, and its cooling skyrockets
>>87471652
>ram wearing out
>It takes 5+ years for it to happen tho
[citation needed]
Id like to see some document about that. as an IT monkey I can count with both hands the times I saw ram fail. On my builds which I use for 8+ years a ram stick never failed on me, but yeah, i dont do OC at all as I give more priority to wattage. I really want to see a study about that, like those of HDD's that cloud storage providers do.
>>87471728
>The usual customers? Tons of people are still sitting on their old GTX 9xx/GTX10xx
I am one of those customers, and while I want newer gen card, Im perfectly fine with my 970 as I dont play anything fancy or at pimped out resolutions, also the inflatiuon had hitted me hard so I have to watch every penny I spend. So no, unless i get a good deal on a used crypto card I'll stray with my card
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Just installed a bargain bin 3060 on ebay, sitting on comfy temps and normie AAA gaming, fight me
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>>87472313
>but the earlier generations of leadless solder caused that.
It's still a problem now, it's just the failure now takes much longer.
Even buidzoid at one point admitted that all big GPUs will eventually just cycle themselves to death.
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>>87472146
No, I just enjoy taking a GPU's virginity. I don't want some other man's gross GPU
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>>87472048
they have ravaged power components and poorly modified bios
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>>87470661
Would you prefer lad summer, fag?
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>>87470855
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>>87471314
kys cryptofag, I see you spamming this shit in every GPU thread on multiple boards
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>>87469530
Yayyyyy, I can't wait to buy a toasted chink gpu for half the price!
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>>87471442
based
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>>87471442
>hate miners
>but doesn't hate the companies that supplied them
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>>87470045
>>87470046
>>87470046
What's the problem? Chips are water proof. Maybe it could wash away a bit of thermal paste. As long as you let it dry before running so that there isn't a short from the pcb or fan.
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>>87472688
>oxydation good
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>>87472688
You aren't wrong and yet, it's better to clean them thoroughly after such an event.
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>>87472468
Top kek
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>>87470855
t. chink insectoid
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*dead memory*
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>>87470855
lol imagine thinking xiao lao wang and sanjay mahajeet actually underclocked and undervolted their cards
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>>87472688
If rain was distilled water and the GPUs were perfectly clean, this would be true. Unfortunately neither of those things are the case.
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washed mine under running tap water, still running at 60 fps
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>>87473433
peed on mine, gained 10 FPS.
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>>87470855
Still wouldn't buy it, just so they can't recoup their money and then use that money to scalp 4080s to fuck us over again.
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>>87472955
If you let it dry out then it's fine.
Are you fucking retarded or something?
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>>87470855
>temperature controlled conditions at continuous loads
You're making a shitload of assumptions about who was doing the mining and whether they gave enough of a fuck to treat their rigs correctly.
Did you forget about all those power outages in India with poojeets running mining rigs in mud huts?
Even the chinks in OP's picture are going through all these cards outdoors. Do you think they'd care if it started drizzling rain a little bit? Or if a few got knocked over?

These people buy cards in bulk, and they treat them like bulk trash.
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>>87470205
I assemble PC's wearing socks while working on a carpet.
Deal with it.
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you are all pawns and should care less
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>>87473516
>If you let it dry out then it's fine.
No, it's not. If the water isn't distilled, then it'll leave residue on the traces that can short them, even after the water has evaporated.
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>GPUs with fans
Enjoy your fucked lungs and tinnitus, poorfag
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>>87471363
Graphics Processing Units ARE worthless already to me. I will not silicon that needs to be actively cooled. I will not buy silicon that hasn't improved 2D performance in 10 years. I will not buy silicon that draws more than 50 watts. I will not buy silicon that can't drive a 4K TV from walmart for $300 when it would cost me $400 to $2000.

No. Not going to happen. Obsolete on arrival.

GPUs crashed already, hashrate has nothing to do with >G<raphics. We went from barely 2D accelerated to Far Cry 2 from 2000 to 2010, what happened in 2010 to 2020? Gay racing? Are you serious?
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>>87473754
only smart anon in a thread full of idiots
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>>87473754
based and gpu pilled
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If shits healing why are they still trying to sell rx590s for over 200 USD? Fuck miners they went from parasites to scalpers
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>>87470205
ESD doesnt matter if you arent retarded when handling it. dont grab it by the pins retard
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just got on of those, works fine, great deal!11!!1one!!eleven
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>>87471701
damn retard just keep your money saved and wait until the prices are low enough for (you) and stop trying to minmax shit, just from that alone you will be at a massive advantage compared to the retards that bought it when the prices were double than msrp
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>>87470930
/thread
I don't care about the condition of the cards, I'd rather pay more than bail out some crypto nigger.
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>>87470214
>I'm in western Europe.
you have it easy then
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Where do they sell them and what models have the biggest discounts?
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>>87470214
it should be 150E brand new
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>>87472313
>but the earlier generations of leadless solder caused that
So there have been improvements in that area ?
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>>87471508
Why do you say that miners are parasites? They provide a valuable service to people who use cryptocurrencies to transact.
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>>87474664
>So there have been improvements in that area ?
Not him but there has
Consoles don't grenade immediately.
Personally I'm not convinced lead-free solder has been made as reliable as leaded and no one seems to be interested in making comparison studies as where stuck with the EU.

Would be interesting to see the types of lead-free solder used by each manufacturer since there are different properties for different solders in regard to thermal cycling
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>>87471898
>I see people selling 1070s for 300$ all the time.
a miner in my area just put 1k+ 1070 cards up for sale @100 bucks each
and it doesn't look like he's selling out anytime soon
a month ago the cards would be 250-300 and he'd sell out in a couple of days easy mode
prices are dropping like a rock and there's no bottom in sight ... especially with proof of stake coming soon to eth
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>>87471510
> When do you think we will reach the absolute minimum of prices for the foreseeable future? This summer?
Whenever Ethereum is at the bottom or they finally move to proof of stake. I'd give it a few more months, I'd wait at least until the end of the summer. An epic market crash is coming anyway and when the S&P crashes crypto will too.
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>>87474780
I'm in central Europe and I've seen a rog strix 2080ti on sale for 700€. Haven't seen anything like this in 3 years. Lots of garbage cards like 1060-3060-1080 but a 2080ti? No way.
That's when I knew shit's happening.
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>>87474780
>proof of stake coming soon to eth
Anyday now, son.
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>>87474806
>2080ti
there's a bunch of them selling used @600 and nobody is buying at that price
seems the current price for them is 500 and even then it has to be a decent model with still existing warranty
i almost feel bad for anyone trying to sell their cards that they bought at insanely inflated prices
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>>87474780
2 more weeks
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>>87474914
I deliberately specified central Europe because the USA are a different planet altogether.
>2018-19
>how much should I pay for a 2070s
>eh, 450 at most
>check everywhere
>700€ avg price
Even now you have to struggle to find one below 400€.
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>>87470855
slave labor with no pay
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EU bros where do you buy GPUs? Amazon?

I found Mindfactory but they only shit to Germany.
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>>87475227
Don't you have specialized websites in your cunt?
If you're in the EU you can buy from any other country, usually there's no problem for shipping since there's no internal customs. I bought from Germoney, Italy, Lelgium and Spain with no issues in the past.
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>>87469530
why do you keep posting this same thread over and over?
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>>87475158
>central Europe
you aren't looking then because i was talking €
man i wish i was living in murica right now so i wouldn't have to pay 2 bucks+ for a liter of gas
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>>87475282
Aren't burger gas prices at an all time high too? And they practically depend on cars.
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>>87475267
I get paid 10 yuan everytime i do it
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>>87475338
no, you get paid nothing. you're literally doing it for free. that's how fucking gay you are
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>>87475333
Still half the price compared to European gas.
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>>87475333
>Aren't burger gas prices at an all time high too? And they practically depend on cars.
what the fuck are you talking about? do you think cars only exist in america? are you really this fucking retarded? you can't be, right? is this satire?
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>>87475458
>what is public transportation?
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>>87470884
no they can't
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>>87471739
deshrouding and adding 2 fans will no doubt be better, although ive only seen it done on itx case
>cooler master nr200
but still would take it apart to check how the original fan is doing
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>>87470045
They are going straight to the trash bin anyway.
Chinks became millionaires of mining and so they'll just dump the cards.
It's not enough that they became millionaires from mining, YOU MUST NOT BE ABLE TO MINE (with cheap second hand gpu's) ALSO!
It's a sad sight actually.
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>>87469530
That's a lot of graphic cards.
Just imagine the pile of monitors.
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>>87475250
yes im just wondering is there any website in EU that has a good reputation and is cheap
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>>87475483
you didn't even answer my question. you implied that cars only exist in america. do you understand that cars exist outside of america and the entire world depends on them?
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>>87469530
luv' me thinkpad
luv' me linux
'ate gaymers
'ate consoomer gpus
nuff said.
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chink shit v2
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bunch of old pics from when china banned cryptomining. It didn't even make a dent in the worldwide gpu prices.
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>buy all new 3080 cards
>use them nonstop
>sell them when theyre finally worn out
>buy all the new 4080s with the money earned from selling used cards
nutting personul tank yoo kind sir
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>>87471652
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
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>>87469530
Don't care, still not buying 2nd hand trash. Eat shit miners.
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>>87471363
Nvidia halted production of 3000 series cards a few months back and now they're going to delay the 4000 series to try to mitigate that
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>>87476189
>Nvidia halted production of 3000 series cards a few months back
No way the stock can still grow if production was halted.
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i bought a 1080 for $500 in 2018
you will never experience good gpu prices again, deal with it
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>>87476189
yes YES YES PLEASE so much this
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>>87476245
i sold mine and a 56 used each for 300 lol i thought that was bad
might offload my 6900xt for like 500 next year just to heal the world
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>>87476195
Couldn't find a proper source for that info, so it could just be bullshit.
Stock could still grow if they had already stocked up on ampere chips in warehouses. We wouldn't be seeing that until they get distributed to AIB partners and sent to retail.
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>>87470855
>i hate this fucking narrative pedelled by retards who think gpus are sentient human fucking beings and don't 'want' to do the work.
Same mindset that makes feminists accuse men of "raping" their silicone sex dolls
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>>87469530
They'll let them get china acid rain on them and then sell for 300 a piece to some dumb guy american gaymer.
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>>87475749
Not him but I don't depend on cars, I live in the suburbs and have a grocery store 5 minutes of walking from home, I get to work by train and I have to cycle 2 minutes to get to the station, the gym is a 5 minute walk from home or 1 minute on my bike.
I use my car only when going to the beach or if I'm visiting someone who doesn't live nearby, or when it rains (which is rare).
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>>87477579
serious question, do you think the gross majority is like you or like me? do you think most people depend on cars? or do you think most people on the planet live in walking distance of a store?
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>>87469530
Disgusting chinks piling their used up junk on the ground like monkey guts in a wet market and expecting honest gaymers to haul it away and pay for the privilege
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>>87477636
I think that may actually be true for most people on the planet. North Americans are an exception.
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>off loading GPUs just when new GPUs about to release

something's up
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>>87477773
which is true? most people on the planet live in walking distance of stores? if you think this you couldn't be more wrong and you probably don't know a single person outside of the states.
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>>87477950
>most people on the planet live in walking distance of stores?
yes, I'm pretty sure it's been proven that statistically most people live in cities and large towns. Something like 95% of Earth's land is uninhabited
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>>87477850
>something's up

Something is. The only thing I know it definitely isn't is the price of (((crypto))).
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>>87469571
Rent free.
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>>87469545
Why do muslims need computing power? Space travel is forbidden in sharia law
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>>87471477
This isn't how mining operations work kiddio. They simply run the silicon and cooling at optimal power efficiency. Thermal output is a secondary consideration. They do just enough to prevent throttling from occurring.
The memory or VRMs is usually the common way on how GPUs die. The chip itself is very robust unless you overvolt and overclock the crap of it.
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>>87471495
Completely wrong, mining-fags don't overclock at all. They run their cards at peak of power efficient to cutdown on operational costs.
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>>87470855
no thanks. I only fuck virgins.
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well I'll be damned
nah, not upgrading yet
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>>87471427
Don't care, unless your used goods are at least $200 under msrp new I won't buy them period, the value proposition just isn't there. Electromigration also happens much much more often than you're implying btw, miner
>>87478276
Memory overvolting has less of an influence on power consumption so they still do it. And in conditions where power consumption isn't an issue, ie. amateurs with free power from their landlords or institutions, those who are more likely to sell quick during a downturn due to lack of capital, would not have bothered with any of this entirely
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>>87470855
It's just spiteful subhuman gaymeniggers salty about how much money we made while they whined about prices for years. Doesn't matter, just clean, reseal and sell as new, or say it was used for gaming. They can't tell.
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>>87469530
Don't care, won't buy until eth goes pos
>>87479049
It's not new if it came without warranty, literally no one will believe you if you say that and if you think otherwise you're in for a surprise
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>>87470855
Women weren't raped in all the previous 80-90 relationships where she opened her vagina around 1000-2000 times per relationship, all of them having liquid filling her eggs so that the future kids will have traces of every partners DNA in them, so you're just gonna be one out of 2000 in that genepool for the new kid.

They were only having loving cuddle with each other, please date her, she needs her hole plugged at every moment, and when you're at work she's having it plugged by someone gentle non-stop until you're home from work, multiple gentle plugs will fill her up so don't worry.

Oh wait, was this about graphic card, or graphic cuck?

Don't settle for worn down used trash that betray you.
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>>87469530
since all of this started i haven't even needed to used a hig end gpu in fact i never even had a good gpu i still use a fucking geforce gt 430
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>>87478312
Jimm's has a dual fan 3060 Ti for 499€ if you definitely must buy something
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>>87470214
Yeah I bought one nrw on ebay for 400$ earlier this month
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>>87470884
China namba won!
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>>87479049
>we
Lmao
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based miners making the manchildren seethe
you just NEED to play your videogames in a slightly better resolution right?
suck my cock faggots
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The "G" in GPU stands for gutter oil
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>>87479343
>you don't understand, humanity NEEDS this cumthereoncoin, buttcoin and metheryum for feeling fulfilled. WE banksters are the happy ones on this planet, uh huh!
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>>87470855
yeah bro im sure they are in tip top condition, great deal
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>>87470855
>mining is done on underclocked cards in temperature controlled conditions at continuous loads. it is literally the best case scenario for GPUs
this. just a few hours of daily gaming probably causes more harm to a gpu than mining the whole 24 hours.
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>>87470205
can everyone just fucking attack this homosexual.
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>>87470205
hehe
i never do it
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>>87471276
>There is no way to fuck both of them over
Change graphics settings to low. Integrated graphics work fine for minetest.

>>87473754
I would be interested in reading more of your writing.

>>87472313
>I really want to see a study about that, like those of HDD's that cloud storage providers do.
Did you know that with ``cpupower frequency-set`` you can pin a celeron and an i5 to the same frequency and then benchmark them, and that even on pure, hand-coded single-threaded workloads the i5 is typically 1.7-2.5x faster even though it's pinned to the exact same frequency (as monitored by cpupower frequency-info)? I can't test the power consumption though because battery burned out.

>>87472061
>if nvidia uses all of the income to invest into research for even better gpu's
It's rumored that, as far as forward investment is concerned, nvidia doesn't give a shit about gaming GPUs anymore, only AI GPUs.

>>87475868
>bunch of old pics
Then why price drop now?
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>>87471363
Nah jews are gonna collab once it starts to dip below MSRP to keep it right at MSRP for a few months. When the 4000 launches all of the redditors will lose their mind like with the 3000 and the 4000 will become double msrp (with amd and nvidia collaborating to keep stock as low as possible) and at that point we're right back in the hole
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>>87479343
>Coping this hard on trying cash on a blatantly obvious speculation and ponzi scheme
>Being extra retard by playing the role of miner in the scheme a.k.a the paypig/bagholder
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>>87479013
Memory overvolting has less of an influence on power consumption
Wrong, memory overvolting greatly increases consumption, especially on GDDR6X chips. It also kills rapidly hardware so you can end-up to buy new hardware sooner (Captial Expeturea)
Only completely economical idiots would overvolt and overclock their GPUs for mining (as if the practice itself wasn't really economically sounded since 2017)
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>>87479049
>It's just spiteful subhuman gaymeniggers salty about how much money we made while they whined about prices for years
Only in the early 2010s. GPU mining hasn't been profitable since 2017s on all of the major coins unless you go super big and warehouse mode using scale of economics to cutdown on operational costs. The real profit has moved onto speculation trading.
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>>87475531
>Chinks became millionaires of mining
Nah, only a handful of them became that.
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>>87471363
for gaming, you unironically dont NEED anything stronger than a 1050ti to play almost every game. the only things i can think of that struggles are cyberpunk and VR. everything else plays at comfortable 60fps at acceptable graphic settings (medium/high) (which i consider THE baseline, i know 60-144 is a thing now but you don't absolutely NEED it, you do absolutely need stable 50+ to not get eye cancer however)

anything above this baseline becomes unnecessary, overkill, limit testing. it becomes an extremely invested hobbyist thing at that point.
the only other use GPUs have is production environments
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>>87470011
sapphire rx 580 also looks very similar. probs 470 and 570 also look like that.
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>>87470205
>ESD protection
a meme designed to sell you placebo wrist bands
I have never once used ESD protection and I have never damaged a component
didn't linus try to damage a component during installation using a van der graff generator and totally failed?
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>>87471510
>It's demand and supply
Let me ask you this hypothetical:
If you had a GPU to sell, and everybody else was selling their GPU for $1, would you sell yours for $1?
There's your answer
It's not as simple as
>supply and demand curves find le equilibrium!
economic models are just theoretical approximations under certain strictly defined conditions living outside of reality
t. economics grad
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>>87478128
>Space travel is forbidden in sharia law
How the fuck do you even know that lmao?
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>>87481749
I'm a Muslim
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>>87477950
I live in Northern Italy and most people I know live at walking distance from a grocery store. However this might be because Northern Italy is one of the most densely populated areas in Europe.
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>>87481113
>>87479354
cope however you like but don't be late for school kids
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>>87481138
Blatant lies
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>>87473466
>peed on mine, gained 10 FPS.
FPeeS
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>>87469530
Feels bad to live in a retarded country where people would rather keep stock that's lost its value in a warehouse to roy instead of selling something they bought for at a slight loss.
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Even if the cards were in mint condition for half the cost I still wouldn't buy one just in the hopes that they never recoup the cost
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>>87470855
not buying your bags chang
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>>87471646
basically not this

I bought my gpu from an ex farm like this, 10-20 gpus. they're more likely to be on ebay uk than hong kong phooeys 100km vagina 6800xt
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>>87469530
You want pray game?
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I just want a 6600XT for 200€. I don't ask for anything else. I don't need more than that. Please god just drop the fuck down.
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>>87469530
>that will be $700 for a 6 year old card, sir.
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>>87470855
you WILL lose money on your offloading
i WILL NOT buy your e-waste
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>>87474683
> they provide a valuable service to more parasites
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>>87470855
>fans stop working
no refunds
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>>87483388
I want prey 2 game prease
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hermana deja de romper la pija
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>>87470855
LMAO get fucked hope you lost your wife's boyfriend's college fund.
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>>87483427
>fix fans for $10
I thought this was a tech board
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>>87483596
except you wont be able to find matching fans
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>>87483656
>matching
It's a fucking fan
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>>87483668
>all fans are the same
>just glue it on lol
based retard
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>>87471143
That's right, ive seen them dropping the price every day, but ever since they hit msrp they've only been lowering the price by like 50 cents to a euro. I just grabbed an RX6800 at a little over msrp last week and im done with this shit. Looking at the listings for them now, the prices are the same, but more online stores have them in stock.
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>>87483656
Fans are pretty common on Ebay and aliexpress
Card makers honestly should be the ones selling them but fans aren't hard to get regardless.
Not even sure of a time where I've had a GPU fan outright fail.



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