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How do people who work in tech, especially IT, not get burnt out from constantly having to learn new shit? The technologies that you excel at today will become obselete in less than 5 years time. Then you'll need to waste your money on new certs to keep up with the game.

Compare this to other fields like accounting where you don't need to worry about becoming obsolete overnight as concepts and methodologies mostly remain the same.
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>>87466141
>obsolete overnight
Stop working in webshit
>obsolete in five years
This is literally every profession, get used to learning
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>>87466141
Here's the thing: you don't need certs.
It's just employers don't want to train their employees on the Tech.

An actual job will teach you how the fucking tech works (That is if you can find one that'll teach you to begin with).
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>>87466141
first off, thats a cute piece of plastic
>having to learn new shit
>burnout
learning is easy for me. you ngmi
>accounting
then become an accountant roflmao
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>>87466141
Because if you're actually good at IT (or most things) you're able to adapt as things evolve because you understand the purpose of a tool, and the fundamentals of why and how it should work, rather than how to use the tool itself.

>>87466152
Certs are immensely helpful with finding a job, especially in system admin work. Finding certs that are actually interesting to you can be a good learning opportunity as well.
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>>87466141
Working on legacy systems is the endgame, embrace it.
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>>87466141
Fuck off posting pictures of women. Post pics related to the topic you coombrain fucker
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>>87466141
>The technologies that you excel at today will become obselete in less than 5 years time.
Gross exaggeration. Data structures and algorithms haven't changed, principles of clean code and codebase organisation haven't changed. Major programming languages change only very slowly (JS morphing into ES2020, Python 2->3, various C++ versions). New languages (like Swift) tend to be both specialised to a particular use case or platform and very similar to existing languages. Even frontend webdev libraries have stabilised, with React coming out the winner.
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>>87466141
Certs only really matter for getting your foot in the door, and after that if your employer cares about certs they'll pay for them. Besides, if you don't care about learning new shit and aren't passionate about it, you shouldn't work in tech point blank. Become an accountant or whatever else you want to do if that's what you care about
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>>87466141
not only do you have to constantly learn new shit, you have to constantly solve new problems. Some kids will say "woow, this is great, I don't want a boring job!". Oh, your job will be boring - you won't be solving any _interesting_ new problems, you will just be solving new problems, and then resolving them with new tools, and on and on forever. Meanwhile, people in every other profession just learn something once and then repeat it like a zombie over and over. This is great because there is no stress, no time learning new things, the ability to completely zone out and go on auto-pilot and think about interesting things other than your work, etc.
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>>87466141
They mostly just cry into their hundred dollar bills while their midwit "manager" making $35k/yr pays for their continuing education while they do basically nothing but maintain shitty old code bases or obsolete old mainframes.
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>>87466141
>Compare this to other fields like accounting where you don't need to worry about becoming obsolete overnight as concepts and methodologies mostly remain the same.
Guess you never heard of Dodd-Frank. Or Sarbanes-Oxley. Or the fact that the tax code changes about every 2 years with new rules for depreciation, amortization, deductions, charitable contributions, etc etc. One of the few industries you could have picked that arbitrarily changes its rules constantly to create continued demand for their service is accounting.
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>>87466152
>An actual job will teach you how the fucking tech works (That is if you can find one that'll teach you to begin with).
This literally doesn't happen, and never has. Even 20 years ago when my friend's dad moved from data entry to database management, his job required him to obtain about a half dozen certs in his first year, and then maintain them. The thing about hiring is that HR people are literally the dumbest fuckers that couldn't even hack it with the business school bros who were too stupid for engineering (me btw). Typically the person hiring you has little or no idea what your job entails or how to teach you to do the job. A cert says to them "OK, he probably knows the software we use".
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>>87466141
>Then you'll need to waste your money on new certs to keep up with the game.
What? Where do you work? I just do my job in whaever they need me to do it in.

Most "New" things are just old things with different syntax or some other small modification it's never relearning from 0.

I have this feeling that people think programing languages are actually languages and learning a new one is like fucking Learning English and then learning Chinese, and then learning Arabic.

Meanwhile it's more like learning American English, British English, Australian English, South African English, Scottish English, Welsh English, Irish English etc...

It's like every language still uses varibles, still uses loops, still uses arrays, still uses arithmetic, text manipulation, random numbers, selectors etc...

>>87467128
Yeah and today you have tests that prove if you know shit or not. Please write XY that does XY. Oh you can't bye.

The only people I know that need certification's are fucking Network Certification because they wanna work in ISPs and shit.
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>>87466141
I don't have any problem learning things. It comes easily to me.
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>>87467468
You were reprogrammed to say that
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>>87466141
That the fun part about IT, if you don't like it work in a factory. I get bored as shit doing the same thing over and over again.
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>>87466141
>yeah i need a dress that makes it look like i actually have curves
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Counterquestion - how do you not get bored out of your mind if you just repeat the same thing over and over for 20 years. How does your brain not atrophy if you never learn something new? It just sounds boring.
Either way, you're grossly overstating the amount of change that actually happens. Most of the "new stuff" is a superficial coating over something old and well known.
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>>87466151

>Stop working in webshit
What do you mean? Is web becoming obsolete at a faster rate than the rest of software development?
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>>87467879
>web
>the rest of software development
my sides
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>>87467906

Which part of software development is not getting obsolete so fast?
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>>87466141
nakadashi hyoon
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>>87466141
Good point. I've always loved programming but somehow never could keep interested in web because of it's repetitiveness and lack of meaningful challenges. When apps started being a thing it became more apparent to me how much programming is shifting away from freedom and into "You must learn these systems littered with overly specific architectural jargon. Not because they're useful but because we own the market and want to force you into our way of thinking and keep you there".

TLDR; learning these libs are not difficult but too time consuming and useless for anything else.
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>>87466141
name/source?
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>>87466141
Learning new things is the only thing that motivates me. I would get burned out if I hit the point where I don't do anything new until I die.
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>>87468465
Learning new things is ok.
Learning the same things with a new framework because they changer the full API sucks so bag (for your mental health)
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>>87468465
>Learning new things is ok.
>Learning the same things with a new framework because they totally changed the full API sucks so bad (and will affect your mental health)
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nakadashi
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>>87467993
ignore them, they're NEET c-shitters that have never worked in the industry
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>>87466141
that's why i work in networking. there's enough new stuff to keep it interesting, but the fundamental protocols remain the same like ethernet, tcp/ip, bgp etc.
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>>87468574
Ignore all software development?
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>>87468595
your language is dying out and being replaced by Rust and it's everything :)
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>>87468722

To ingnore all software development? This is your advice?
What I am going to do for living then?
What other job with a decent pay I could find instead?
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>>87466141
x86 and c++ will keep being relevant for decades. all you need to learn is the few changes to the standard every couple years.
the win32 api dates back to windows 3.1.
fuck new zoomer technologies.
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>>87466141
every language after your first is easy to learn
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>>87466141
the trick isn't to learn everything. if something's being mentioned enough you do the "get started" tutorial in the docs so you have a basic idea of what it is
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>>87466364
if it aint broken dont fix it
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>>87466141
>Buying certs with your money instead of making your company pay for it
I shiggy diggy
>Not wanting to learn new things
This is a (You) problem. True tech autists dont mind.
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>>87466141
>How do people who watch videos, especially TikTok, not get burnt out from constantly having to see new shit? The meme that you see today will become irrelevant in 5 weeks time. Then you'll...
OP you're a brainlet, okay we get it.
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Fundamentals stay the same, and you also get better at learning the more you learn.

Nice b8
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>>87466141
post hyoon tummy
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It's only if you are web dev monkey and your boss wants to use the new hype cucksperm.js framework in his cryptostartup
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Oce you have the basics, learning new shit takes really little time. And unlike other industries we are not faggots that need daddy government permissio to work, so we have a lot of learning resources cheap and efficient
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I'm a shounen protagonist, always aspiring to new and greater heights!
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>>87468942
React is changing a lot, each few months. Their leader Dan Abramov is never happy with the previous API so always he keeps changing it over and over. So the same developers start learning it from scratch over and over.
But they don't hate him. They think is a fking genius the guy that never designs an API good enough to last at least a half of year without obsolescence.
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>>87469149
React is backwards compatible for the most part. You can take old class-based components and probably be able to use them just fine.
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>>87466141
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>>87469173
Is not that backward compatible.
Just react developers are backward masochistic and enjoy being fcked
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>>87468447
@aikuros
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>>87467879
>he thinks webshitter are devs
lol, lmao even
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>>87467110
This, my cousin is an accountant. Their documentation are tiny, often subtle details and legalese. The penalties for fucking up are a lot higher than getting flamed on stack overflow.
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>>87466141
Learning new shit is the best part.
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>>87469802
What are webdevelopers if not devs?
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>>87468151
>I've always loved programming but somehow never could keep interested in web
You mean programming filtered you so you cope by shitting on web development like the rest of the neet retards on this board.
>TLDR; learning these libs are not difficult but too time consuming and useless for anything else.
If you need to "learn" a library to be able to use it you're a fucking retard.
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>>87470080
Glorified graphic designers
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>>87470245

Web programmers, js or backend or full stack are not graphic designers. You are confusing
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Because we enjoy learning
If you didn't voluntarily learn new languages, technologies, etc for fun before you started working in IT, you will switch careers or an hero within a few years
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>>87470363
Learning the same thing over and over is not fun, is daunting.
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>>87470425
You don't learn the same thing over and over. That's what this thread is about. You constantly have to learn new things. And if you aren't fascinated by learning new things about computers, you won't survive in IT. People like OP don't understand the power of autism
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>>87470425
Is daunting because you feel as you didn't achieve anything meaningful
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>>87470452
This is partially nonsense. IT works at such scale nowadays that it's very, very easy to survive in the industry without bothering to update yourself at all. Most people are like this. It makes working in the industry hellish for anybody who gives a shit.
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>>87470452
You mean should switch to another field of it in order to avoid learning over and over? Because in the same field becomes over and over because of obsolesce.
To switch from web to c++?
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>>87470560
How you can manage to survive without updating? Can you explain?
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>>87470452
The researches in the field of learning languages show that the young kids learn so fast even multiple languages because they don't leaned a language in full yet. So they discovered that the previous language learned constitutes a handicap in aquiring a new language for adults that completely know their language.
Isn't something similar in IT?
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>>87470694
I mean this is how the human brain works. Next languages are harder to learn after mastering one. Is scientifically proved.
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>>87466141
by learning the concepts ??
by learning how to actually read docs / source code / whatever the fuck info you can get ??
but that applies to me, i can do that in my field of work but a sys admin, for example, could not really do that since he would need a deeper understanding of the underlying systems and if that would be the case he would not be a sys admin but whatever the fuck what do i know
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>>87466141
>not get burnt out from constantly having to learn new shit?
become specialist
>The technologies that you excel at today will become obselete in less than 5 years time.
not if you're an ENTERPRISE JAVA programmer
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After learning react i thought i will be billionaire but I'm earning lower than average salary of my city and I'm also working in react native which is just Hell no help no videos only documentation and blogs which gets old in couple of months.
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>>87470834

Why the stats say that react salary is more 100k. Do they lie? Or is just Facebook marketing?
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>>87466141
>see booba
>enter thread
>save image
>exit thread
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>>87470853
They say that react is first on pay scale after data scientists. Is it true?



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