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Keyboard Mouse Control Edition

>Keyboard recommendation template
https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V

>Where to buy keyboards
https://www.mechmap.tech/themap
https://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com
https://www.mechgroupbuys.com/keyboards
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

>Charts!
https://kiibohd.com

>QMK
https://config.qmk.fm/
https://beta.docs.qmk.fm/

>Relevant Links
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifA4nYk2qCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0c542IyYDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT4tIlW3MM4
https://youtu.be/yYcNi9hKxDk

Previous thread >>85197179
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>>85233027
thats my keyboard !
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omg keyboard small and cute just like the anime girls i wish i could be >_<
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I love so much my IBM model M keyboard.
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Hi /mkg/, I need a new keyboard. Been using my current one for who-knows how many years now and want something smaller.
>Budget
As cheap as possible, fine with chink shit. Budget of $80aud.
>Location (continent at least)
Australia
>Preferred switch type
Tactile, currently keyboard has browns but open to other tactile/clicky switches.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Tenkeyless (may be open to smaller depending on keys removed)
>Backlight
Don't care really, as long as it has some kind of backlight I don't mind.
>Previous/current keyboards
Currently using a Mantistek GK2 (without the keylogger). Would be fine with something similar, as long as it is tenkeyless.

cheers lads
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dudes give me the short verion of cleaning a mech keyb for lazy people
it became pretty filthy and something must be done about that
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>>85233575
remove the keycaps, clean everything, put the keycaps back on
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>>85233619
is there some specialized product or I use the glass spray?
can I put the caps in a dishwasher?
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>>85233640
heard they were mushy
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>>85233666
these work great for cleaning keycaps, just soak overnight and make sure to dry them out fully after
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>>85233666
compressed/canned air, a brush and one of these bad boys (pic) or just the gel/slime is enough unless you spilled a drink on it, then you should get some electronics cleaner aswell.
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>>85233666
>can I put the caps in a dishwasher?
probably but wouldnt recommend it cus of the heat and spraying water would make them fly all over inside.
just fill your sink or a big bowl with hot soapy water and use the fine side of a dish-sponge to clean them.
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How do you fully clean the backplate of a leopold keyboard?

Ive had this Cherry Mx Red Leopold for 10 years and i've never figured out a way to get between the switches comprehensively. Its gotten kinda gross there. Pic related is the same kind of issue i'm having. I can't desolder it and there doesnt seem to be an easy way to isolate just the backplate. Any tips? Or should i just get a new keyboard, preferably something that is easier to clean.
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>>85233864
side effect
they come out minty fresh
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>>85234594
Just use a stiff brush and one of those blowers to get out the stubborn shit.
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>>85227139 (Cross-thread)
> MT3 on the Q1 V2
I just put Susuwatari MT3 on my Q1 v2, no problems. But make sure the set you get has all the keys you need, Susuwatari didn't have a R0 Delete key in the base set. Don't know if any do for that matter you might need to get the extras or use a different key
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>>85233451
change my mind model F > model M
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>>85233027
Is this keyboard any good
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003521220200.html

alternatively I found that one

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003710250593.html

I like how compact and thin they are, otherwise I'm clueless about anything else and I was navigating the "More to love" section till I got these.

If I buy a cheap 3$ usb tenkeys will it input alt codes or work in CAD software using ALT key on the these keyboards and numpads of the tenkey?
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>>85231724
Well, you're not wrong.
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I bit the bullet and bought a ducky one 3
Justify my purchase
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Thoughts on the Moonlander? Seems like my perfect keyboard, though I wish it were easier to find custom keycaps for it. Where would you go to buy custom caps once you decide on a layout?
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>>85234594
get super clean gel >>85234124 it's way better than a brush imo, gets into every little nook.
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>Budget
$75-$100
>Location (continent at least)
Poland
>Preferred switch type
Brown
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
TKL or lower, F1-F12 required (TKL without the last 3 collumns would be perfection)
>Backlight
no backlight
>Previous/current keyboards
Ducky Zero 3108 PBT Side-Print with browns
>keycaps
all black, side-print preferred (side-print > blanks > standard print)

I'm basically looking for a more compact Ducky Zero Side-Print. I was going to get a Ducky One TKL Side-Print, but can't find it in-stock anywhere (discontinued?). Hope that there is something similar or smaller that's available.
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>>85237773
Nah.
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>>85238446
Thx man
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Why is it so hard to find a matching case/pcb combination for european ISO layouts that arent fucking 60% AAAAAAAAAAAA
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Looking for recommendations, need something smaller than my Model M.

Budget: $150 USD
Switch type: Tactile or clicky. Not super familiar with non-Cherry switches. Blues>Clears>Browns>Greens>linear.
Layout: ANSI
Form factor: 65-80%, anything smaller is annoying and anything larger doesn't save enough space.
Backlight: No
Previous/current keyboards: Model M for home use (love it, but it takes up most of my desk), WASD V3 with MX Clears for work (they paid for it, I wouldn't have gotten a WASD with my own money).
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>>85236968
if you can keep it around for 5 years and use it everyday then its probably fine. After using my leopold for 5 years, I've learned that I prefer hotswap sockets just so I can switch out switches
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>>85238889
unicomp mini m
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>>85234594
Brush is the most clean for the second least work, high velocity air is the least clean for the least work
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Thinking about getting a KBD75 3.1 as my first real mech. Are there any reasons why this would be a bad idea?
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>>85239302
Before
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does anyone know of a good tutorial to DIY a removable usb on a kb? my daily is an old KBT Oni and i've been wanting to mod a removable cable on it for years
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>>85239321
I'm new here, do you use those weapons for, well, shooting, or do you just collect them?
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>>85239495
he's a proud chud defending the white race from black people being cast in television shows
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Which material can i put in the bottom of my keyboard to make it sound less hollow? I live im europe and i can't find sorbothane.
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>>85239684
Any kind of dense foam should do the job.
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>>85239684
>>85239722
Use an anti static foam ideally
Butyl rubber or rubber sheets can be good too
Soft/hard dampening behave differently hard dampening like rubber will more mute the entire thing rather than parts of the sound. Not worth going full autism on the topic over keyboards.
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If you're not worried about static tbqh the foam you find in packaging works fine.
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>>85239684
people use polyfill as well though idk how much you'd have to worry about static
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>>85239684
Truthfully, just use the same products that they use to sound dampen automobiles, which have been available for years. They're usually a form of butyl rubber sheets. Only problem in this case is that automobile sound dampening material is usually bought in bulk, so I'm not exactly sure if its available in small quantities, which would be all you'd need to sound dampen one keyboard.

Unless, of course, you have many keyboards to sound dampen.
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>>85240034
I've seen that butyl rubber is also used in rubber tape for roofing, do you think it will be just as good?
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>>85239684
I wonder if retail stores in my third world shithole do international shipping...
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>>85240170
ali express works everywhere, especially in asia or any thirdie places
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>>85233027
I know this thead is for mechanical keyboards but I have pic related, a membrane keyboard, and I want to chop off the number pad. Is it possible without bricking it and how would I go about doing that?
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>>85240490
I mean shipping keyboard-sized pieces of dampening foam from my country to europoors, not the other way.
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What's the best 75% keyboard I can get on amazon?
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>>85240157
I have no idea, but if I had to guess, I'd say not, since the automobile sound dampening stuff is made specifically for sound dampening and the roofing tape is not. However, I think you can get a small roll of the roofing tape, so it might be more economical to try it verses automobile sound dampening material.

For that matter, you might want to try some of that FlexSteel stuff (spray-able rubber coating). I know they sell small spray bottles of it at Wally-world.
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>>85240570
why not just buy a cheap tenkeyless?
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>>85241087
recommendations?
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>>85239495
Both
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i have $250 to spend on a keyboard

i want a keyboard that is either pure black or two tone white.
i don't care about the form factor as long as its not 40%
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>>85235581
>>85239302
I've used compressed air several times, it won't get rid of it. Its very stubborn and im actually concerned gunk will blow into the switches themselves.

>>85238121
I just bought some gel, hoping it works well.
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>>85240694
How much do you want to spend? If it's less than $150 I like the leopold fc750r
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My Varmilo VA109M finally came in the mail and damn this thing is nice. Coming from cherry reds the increase in smoothness of their own switches is really noticable, and the entire thing is built like a tank
What are some good PBT keycaps I can get in europe to make proper use of the white LED backlight?
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why aren't pbt the standard for mech boards, when the caps feel so much better than abs?
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have any of you used this?
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>>85242395
>hoping it works well.
it's honestly amazing. it's great for your chassi fans and parts too
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>>85243439
Their reddit looks astroturfed to shit. Idk man seems gay to me. Neat Idea anyway.
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>>85240570
no, it's not possible
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>>85243402
it's more expensive
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>>85240570
You can, but with the amount of effort to do it properly (need to rewire the numpad) it's not worth it. Plenty of cheap Ten Keyless (TKL) out there for that stuff.
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Won this at a raffle in NVDIA hq after I snuck in with a fake wristband. Tell me why I should ever switch it out.
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>>85245831
because it's cringe
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>>85235937
Next day bump
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>>85245875
No. Low profile keyboards are shit. You sacrifice so much in quality for a shittier typing feel.
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>>85245831
Because no matter how good the marketing for a Razer device is, they will always shit out an inferior product for the price. I don't know a single person who's had a Razer mouse or keyboard that didn't complain about deterioration of quality or had it outright break on them.

I know you got it for free, and that's cool. It's about the only scenario in which I would own a Razer product at this point.

Maybe you could sell it to buy a keyboard of similar price from a reliable manufacturer.
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>>85244529
i hope more gmk sets get official PBT reruns, cause clone colors are completely wrong
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>>85233027
Ive been using the cheapest bluetooth keyboard i found in amazon for many years now. My partner recommended me to switch to a mechanical. Is it really worth it? Whats really the main upgrade from a normal keyboard? I mean, ive only see them wired and the only reason i went for a bluetooth was because i want to be in my bed and still use my pc. Will i lose any upgrade if i try getting a bluetooth one?
Besides pls someone explain that weird thing of the color of the switches.
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>>85246278
How many gmk sets have had PBT reruns?
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>>85245892
>quality
like?
I want low-profile. So I'm asking if either of these 30$ keyboards are okay.
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>>85233027
tust
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So I went out and got a Ducky One 3 SF. How the hell do I tell which switches/keycaps are compatible with this thing?
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>>85246605
Yes.
Its way more pleasant to type on mechanical keyboard.
But its better you test keyboard or switch before you buy you may not like it.
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>>85243439
Why would you even want to use that?
It looks like even bigger pain to use than that foxboro keyboard with abc layout.
And its not even keyboard in traditional sense.
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>>85240592
Buy material in local store and make your own.
Or do you specifically want this one?
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>>85247476
They are not worth it, even for $30. And no, they are not okay. Even the "best" low profile keyboard feels so shit.

I've owned a couple of "premium" low profile keyboards and I hated typing on them compared to my cheaper pre-built stuff. So for the last time, don't buy them and expect a decent typing experience.
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>>85238379
>all that Ducky makes now are gay RGB eyesores
>from what can I tell black no-backlight keyboards are now only really available from more premium expensive brands.
At this point I'm gonna give up and just get myself a K120. Shame that Ducky doesn't make One TKLs anymore.
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>>85238379
>TKL or lower, F1-F12 required (TKL without the last 3 collumns would be perfection)
You mean a 75% keyboard?
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>>85248159
Sorry, I should have specified that. 75% is more compact but I don't think I would like it since it shrinks the right side of the keyboard to fit the arrow keys in. I don't need arrow keys anyway, but would like the main portion of the keyboard to stay the same. So as far as I can tell TKL is the lowest I can go, unless someone out there makes TKL with everything to the right of Enter chopped off.
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I recently purchased a corsair k70 with red switches and I like it a lot
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>>85248239
Only thing a proper 75% shrinks is a 2.25U Shift to 1.75U, which is hardly noticeable at all. everything else can be stock standard, even the right mods, but it depends on the specific keyboard and layout you want.
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>>85248239
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>>85248109
you know you can turn off rgb, right?
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>>85233027

Need WIRELESS keyboard with NO FLOATING KEYS and MULTIPLE DEVICE SUPPORT

>Budget
Unlimited
>Location
Moscow, Russia
>Preferred switch type
MX Silent Black, but aside from zealios, everything silent goes
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Anything goes. Except TKL. I hate TKL
>Backlight
Don't care
>Previous/current keyboards
Mx silent black vortex vibe, kailh copper pok3r. I have two computers and I would love to have some way to swap between them like with my mx ergo. I'm down for a wired solution for that if such exists
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>>85248357
He's obviously too retarded to do that.
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>>85248505
NiZ Micro 82. You can try weightier domes like 60/65g from NiZ for a lot more resiatnce compared to the stock 35/45g ones.

Pretty quiet out of the box, though a proper silent switch like a Zilent or Bobagum can be quieter depending on the plate and keyboard case.
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>>85248277
Most 75% keyboards I have seen shrink bottom row too.
>>85248290
Very cool, nice to know something like this exists, not available afaik though.
>>85248357
Correct me if I'm wrong, but all the RGB keyboards I've seen have this ugly transparent print for the RGB light to come through the keys.
But now that you've mentioned it, it wouldn't suprise me if getting a cheap RGB keyboard + a set of black side-print keycaps was cheaper than buying a proper black no-backlight keyboard.
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>>85248573
>These stabs
They fucking had to ruin it. Thanks for a suggestion anyway
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what are the go to linears now? i had gat yel not lubed and was ok with them. would have liked to have them lubed tho.
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>>85248599
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but all the RGB keyboards I've seen have this ugly transparent print for the RGB light to come through the keys.
Definitely not all, but the mainstream gamer shit does. But you can indeed replace the keycaps, the ones you get on the mainstream stuff are often shit anyway.
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>>85248751
costar stabs are great. they're just a tiny bit harder to put back in the keys, which isn't a problem unless you change keycaps every day.
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>>85248775
i like black ink v2s
https://youtu.be/AjKxqaPi_8Y
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>>85247123
off the top of my head
gmk taro
gmk noel
gmk darling (samples ordered)
gmk basedabean (IC phase)
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>>85248775
budget linears atm are jwick and gateron pro's.
dont know what premium switches are in atm
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>>85249184
I had a costar board, they are rattly af, pain in the ass to lube and often don't fit well with non-stock caps. They also break a lot
Idk, I might give it a try, always wanted topre board with MX stems
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I'm looking for a 65% mechanical keyboard. I've never used a mechanical keyboard before and I'm a bit overwhelmed. The Ducky One 2 FS looks pretty good and comes with my desired layout (QWERTZ). Does anyone here have this keyboard and can recommend it?
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>>85248065
>I've owned a couple of "premium" low profile keyboards
what was the best of those you tried? a m8 is really insistent on getting a low-profile keyboard so if he hates it that's not my problem. but I'd still like to recommend him something that's atleast the best of the worst
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>been using different mechanical keyboards
>experimenting with switches and dampening
>end up using a shitty rubber dome keyboard a lot
>no noise, just works, cheap as fuck
>i like the shitty rubber dome better
What have i become...
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>>85242566
I was hoping to spend a little less than 130 for the leopold but I'll keep that one in mind. My ideal price is somewhere between they keychron k2 and the fc750r
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>>85250687
a Topre lover in the making
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Lads are MX Brown really unusable or is it just reddits opinion?

Been wanting to get a mck for some time now. Problem is that I need a Nordic layout. Found a nice one for sale (only 1 left) that is Nordic but they only have it with MX brown.
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>>85251082
I have "mx browns" (the gateron clone) in my spare keeb and they're fine.
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>>85251082
I think they're fine.
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>>85251082
I think browns are fine. What happens is that people hear that browns are a middle ground between reds and blues and get disappointed when that isn't the case. btw, I think if you want such a middle ground, clears will get you closer.
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>>85251150
>>85251216
Ty
>>85251221
Yeah wish I could get clears but they seem to be too extremely rare for mck’s in Nordic layout. At least those available now.
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>>85250338
Keychron Q2 is pretty good
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>>85251290
just get that kit, you'll be a happy anon until you decide to replace it 4 years later
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>>85250687
when I use a cheapo membrane rubber dome, I think it's mostly fine. when I go back to my mech board (or my niz), I remember how much better it is instantly and I'm glad I have it.
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>>85251082
they're fine.
if you're ready to get into the world of keyboards, and not just buy a mainstream gaming keyboard, you can get any ISO board and put on Nordic keycaps. (or just use any ISO board with a Nordic layout in the OS if you don't need the keycaps legends)
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what's your opinion on ducky one 3?
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>>85246278
i dont mind the clones. most sets i like are usually monochromatic anyway, so the clones are rarely ever fucked. the gmk wob has clones now and im for sure getting that
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I can get the GMMK pro, AKKO 3084, and Durgod Taurus K320 for $100 each. Which do you think is the best of the three?
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>>85237773
Cheaply made and overpriced. The wrist rest will break as soon as you go to type. Same goes for the thumb cluster.
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>>85251082
some yt-er offered that opinion and everybody on reddit made a thing of it
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>>85251082
if it exists its usable so them being unusable is people being retarded and exaggerating
i do agree that (non hyperglide) browns are pretty bad tactiles generally because of the mix of cherries' poopy tooling and the subtlety of the tactility
they are very much usable tho, its not like they're worse than any other cherries in any departments so if you feel like getting browns go for it but if you can find hyperglides for a good price (they shouldn't be much more expensive at all) you should get those.

>>85237773
i would not ever take the moonlander over any dactyl or dactyl like in a million years. they probably cost about the same. (i also wouldnt pay 300+ dollars if you can order a 50-100 dollar kit of some split column staggered keyboard that offers the same functionality)
its probably okay to use tho but i went with a dactyl first and a corne afterwards and the convex keywells are extremely comfortable and the thumbclusters are *chefs kiss*
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>>85252531
Your thumbkeys not being oriented the same way tilts me so much.
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Keychron Q2 or KBD75 3.1
bls help
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>>85253242
make a fist and check which way your thumb bends
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>>85253775
but they're different _within_ the thumb cluster.
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>>85253815
Not him but your thumb will turn as you move down to hit the lower keys. That said I don't think the manuform thumb cluster is all that great (which is why I designed my own).
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>>85253815
you mean they're rotated with the text the wrong way?
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>>85254345
Yeah
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>>85254368
ah ok, ye that looks bad.
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>>85251082
If you're looking for really strong tactility, they're underwhelming. Otherwise, they're fine.
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https://www.twitch.tv/zealpc/clip/AmazonianProductiveInternOpieOP-9JkmKfnhYCdWLdmW
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What software will let you fully customize the RGB lighting on your keyboard? My keyboard came with ObinsKit software which lets you choose from a preconfigured set of color programming, then configure the colors.

I see people who do stuff like program Snake game on their keyboard, I would like to program my keyboard so that depending on what mode it is in different keys will be different RGB colors to indicate different functionality.

Does this exist?

Also, does any software exist that would toggle my keyboard mode based on the program I have in focus? Eg I have coding environment in focus and it changes the keyboard mode to what I want in that environment.
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Is there a big difference in quality between gateron pro yellow and the gateron ink black\tangerines other than the spring weight? Because i can get pro yellows for half the price of the other two.
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>>85254535
a keyboard's ligthing will only work with software made for that specific board.
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>>85234594
90+ % isopropyl alcohol with a q-tip will work for gunk that is really stuck on or as a spot remover if that's what you need it for. Just don't dump it all over your back plate creases and give it some time to dry off, it'll dry out quicker than water so you really don't have to worry too bad.
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>>85254699
There is a notable difference in smoothness but I can almost guarantee you that the casual observer who hasn't used a decent linear like yellows for years (you) would be able to tell or feel a marked difference in quality without autistically side by siding them all day.
Jwicks are better than gat yellows if they're available for you & cheaper though. Blacks have the smoothest housing.
Never buy any switch for its spring, spring swaps are like $3 and 0% more work involved if you're already lubing. You are keen to know that.
I see no point to getting anything better than Jwicks/Gats/Etc as first linear. The other stuff exists for when you develop autistic preferences and get bored of the go to linears.
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what makes a good keycap and what makes a bad keycap? I have keychron k2 bonestock and i hear the keycaps are terrible on this keyboard. i guess i don't know 100% what people mean when they complain about keycaps, but i guess my main complaint would be that the key caps have a very "glossy" feel. can be a little bit slippery to type on at times. is there a set of keycaps you would recommend for this keyboard? thanks
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>>85235757
Hundred bucks for a unicomp ssk
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>>85256289
Until I had a ton of different quality keycaps I wouldn't know. At the high end OG cherry isn't necessarily different from epbt or CRP. They're just different. Cheaper keycaps for cherry switches are sometimes really shitty. A lot of them are pbt and at the lower end, contrasting with abs, that usually means they're shitty. This shows itself a lot of the time in the sound they make. It depends on if they work with high end boards and properly lubed, quality switches that are appropriate for the board. There are a few makers at the lower end that are really lauded and you really will never need to buy some novelty like Russian sublegend caps found on a g81. Past a certain point it's completely e-peen, but people will still want those things since they're really the best, but to the point where the next best thing is 99% as good. Ask on reddit or on the discords which caps are considered good and do your research and you should get something worth having. Bad keycaps are cheap and sometimes explain why they're worth it in the description or title: Doubleshot pbt, pudding, shine-through. These are looked down upon and if you want something that will sound good you're either going to hunt for something rare that no one cares about or you'll be fighting to buy something everyone wants. Most (cherry) aftermarket caps are considered unpalatable by the enthusiast
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>>85254699
The Gateron Pro switches come pre-lubed with oil so they should feel smoother out-of-the-box than Ink Blacks
I can't comment on how lubed Ink Blacks compare to Pros though
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>>85248775
Linears are tougher to categorize than tactile switches.

If you don't mind lubing and filming, durock poms/piano. If you don't mind a break in period of 2-3 weeks before lubing, NK creams. If you want something stock, C3 tangerines or Alpaca V2s though both are better with a little lube and switch films.
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>Ask on reddit or on the discords which caps are considered good and do your research and you should get something worth having.
Don't do that they'll just tell you to buy whatever that week's GMK set it.
Spend money on nice keycaps once you even have a clue what even family of keycap profile you want.
Profile is everything. The most expensive and nice cherry profile set in the world is garbage to me because I only like spherical tops. Know what your preferences are first.
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Do PCBs dictate the size of keys (1.0u, 1.25u whatever) or can you put whatever you want on it?
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>>85258657
Yes they do. Higher end PCB's will allow you to use multiple layouts, but require you to solder everything together or install hotswap sockets yourself. Lower end PCB's will come with hotswap sockets pre-installed and you will not be able to adjust anything.
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I'm looking for a 75% or tkl keyboard with a budget of $100. I'd prefer clears or browns. What exactly should I be looking for in different keyboards at this price?
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>>85258790
>75%/tkl
>browns
>$100 budget
>What exactly should I be looking for
Nothing the answer is simple just get a keychron. I have bought and used every $100 75% its still the best one.
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Actually I'll expand more on that: Get a Keychron unless you are already familiar with buying shit from taobao. If you are, you can get better 75% keyboards on there for $100 after all the shipping costs.
If you're not just get a keychron its not worth the hassle over unless you already use Taobao imo.
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>>85256604
>A lot of them are pbt and at the lower end, contrasting with abs, that usually means they're shitty
maybe it's my ESL seeping through but I can't decipher that sentence as to wether PBT or ABS is the better material for keycaps. All the surface level talk and youtube videos I've seen so far suggests that doubleshot PBT is quite good and doesn't rub off/yellow over time
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I just bought an open box durgod k310 on eBay for $85 to use at work. Hopefully it won’t be too much worse than the Leopold I use at home
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>>85242160
Topre Leopold
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>>85253545
Get the Q2 if you don’t plan on doing any modding.

Get the KBD75 if you want to get into modding keyboards.
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>>85242746
shit, where did you get it? mechanicalkeyboards.com seems to be sold out
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>realforce 87u 55g for tactile
>gateron pro yellows for linear
>kailh box pink for clicky
I feel like I'm set for the major switch styles
But if I wanted to try some MX tactile switches, what would /mkg/ recommend?
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>>85258954
Ordered it from here, they had a preorder going and around 5th of january they started listing it as stocked. Seem to ship in the EU as well as outside EU if you request it manually via mail
https://geekboards.de/collections/keyboards/products/varmilo-vintage-days-vem109-cmyk-iso-de
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Thoughts on the Keydous NJ80?
I just want something with a knob
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>>85258657
Generally, when you go to buy a PCB, the vendor will provide a diagram of what physical layout variations it supports.
You can technically stick on "unsupported" keycaps, if they physically fit, but I don't know why you would as it would look weird.
If you're buying components separately then you also need to make sure your plate supports the layout you want too.

>>85258765
Soldered PCBs are not necessarily "higher end" and don't have to feature multiple layout options.
Hotswap PCBs are not necessarily "lower end" and some do provide multiple layout options.
That prejudice is a little dated and narrow.
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>>85258875
His grammar got all funky but the topic itself is kind of confusing too.
Generally high end keycaps are either
>Doubleshot ABS
>Dye-Sublimated PBT
Anon's grammar was bad but double-shot PBT keycaps are confusing & anon doesn't really seem to understand them. Which is totally reasonable because there is so much marketing bullshittery going on with keycaps. There are 2 camps of doubleshot PBT:
- Some are basically just ABS doubleshot keycaps with a bit of PBT in the blend being marketed as PBT keycaps. These kind are effectively just doubleshot ABS keycaps there is no difference. You will see retards saying they are bad because preferring ABS or PBT is very polarizing so all the people saying they're bad think anything made of ABS is bad. You can discard their opinions. Example: Akko
- Some PBT doubleshots are actually PBT doubleshot. They will have blurrier legends than ABS doubleshot and much more limitations on how they can be colored. Also much messier injections usually. I personally believe PBT dye sublimated are just flat out better all around. Example: Drop MT3

If you want keys with longevity that will not shine or yellow with long term use, what you want are dye sublimated pbt keycaps.
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>>85259070
>Soldered PCBs are not necessarily "higher end" and don't have to feature multiple layout options.
You have what I am saying backwards.
All high end PCB's are either solder boards or offer millmax pre-install service.
Not all solder PCB's are high end, only the ones which offer large amounts of layout customization.
The only reason not to offer such is cost cutting or ease of use, both features that appeal to the low end and mid tier market.
The only reason to offer a PCB with pre installed kailh sockets is cost cutting or mass market appeal.
>Hotswap PCBs are not necessarily "lower end" and some do provide multiple layout options.
Kailh style hotswap sockets are objectively low end. They are much more limited in how they can be arranged and have a much shorter lifespan for total swaps than millmax sockets. They're amazing for being so cheap and able to offer hotswap on budget boards. But they're not high end compared to the alternatives like millmax, holtite by any stretch of the imagination.
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If you haven't actually used either of the socket styles before (only reason anyone would object to my opinion) its pretty simple.
Picrel kailh style sockets connect to 2 pins per unit.
This means if you have a pcb with a ton of sockets and want to say, switch your modifiers from 3x 1u to 2x 1.5u you would have to desolder all the hotswap sockets and move them. Also most people don't have a hot air retooling station so good luck doing that.
Millmax/holtite/rivets/etc you can just have sockets installed into the pin locations for both so all you need to do is pull the switch out and move it.
Also ~10x more rated lifespan, and your typical keyboard enthusaist has the tools to repair them. Not the case for kailh styles. I've never fucked up a millmax socket but I've fucked up kailh styles plenty of times.
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>>85259153
most high end boards nowadays offer both solder/hs, and solder is for those who need non-ANSI layouts
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>>85259249
Key word high end pcb. A ton of high end kits use mid tier PCB's. High end has no cost cutting measures simple as.
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>>85259269
what is even an example of a "high end" pcb lol
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>>85259284
A lot of the stuff in the split ergo segment.
Extensive layout customization, good or swappable microcontroller(s), no corner cutting, south facing switches would be the main things I look for.
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>>85259308
oh sorry i thought you meant normal layouts
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meanwhile here I am waiting on more than UHK to offer prebuilt splits with trackpoints/trackballs
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>>85259329
It applies to normal layouts too.
I personally consider stuff like chocs, alps etc compatibilty a high end feature.
A lot of things that matter a lot to a few people and not that much to most people, which is why it makes sense to use budget pcb's in mid end builds and mid end pcb's in high end builds. Most people won't notice corners cut there.
I was just saying to look at split ergo pcb's for an example because most pcb's in that segment would qualify as high end due to the simple fact that if you're going to all the effort and cost increase to make it split you may as well throw all those other features in. So most PCB's in that segment are what I would consider high end. The split part has no real bearing on quality other than being a lot more expensive to make; that's more of a preference than anything.
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>>85259801
ALPS compatibility is less of a high end feature and more of a dickwaving for the 0.000001% of all hobbyists that use ALPS switches
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>>85259878
choc compatibility isn't though
esp in the ergo game where there are v real objective benefits for it
alps compatibility is a why not thing, the only reason not to is cost cutting and mass production capability
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>>85254699
>Because i can get pro yellows for half the price of the other two.
Gateron Pros are better out of the box, no additional lubing or filming required. Both the other options are using older, less tight moulds, so they're more wobbly and less stable as well.
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>>85253883
im enjoying it but i can see how it can be improved. do you have a repo for yours ?

>>85256289
thickness of the keycaps, thicker is generally better
crispness of the legends, self explanatory
wether they are dye sub or doubleshot and in the case of dye sub the quality of dye sub.
materials could come into play but its a bit subjective (not really)

the glossy feel depends on who manufactures them but generally have my pbt keycaps always felt a little rougher and they will keep their texture longer than abs.
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my keyboard is expensive but gross and i cant bear to type on it like this. i also lost my keycap puller. which puller scratches PBT the least and what's the best reusable tools for cleaning boards

also how do you make an hhkb's spacebar quiter
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guys is this a good keyboard?
im going to use it to play games on my computer and it looks like a gaming keyboard
i like how it has cool lights and it will help me type in the dark maybe but is that a good feature?
its a bit expensive tho
thanks
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>>85239321
Based gun gunk anon
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>>85261522
>guys is this a good keyboard?
yeah for the price its hard to beat
>is that a good feature?
subjective, i think if you need it to type theres a bunch of things you're doing wrong but lets not unpack all that.
it having nkro is a feature countless times better than it being backlit
>its a bit expensive tho
for the features the board gets you its probably the cheapest option out there so no, its not expensive if this is the kinda board you want
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>>85261787
thanks anon I appreciate your opinion
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Which switches have the lowest bottoming out force? Preferably ones that can be found on pre-built keyboards.
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>>85262147
mx browns bottom out at 55g
i thought reds would be lighter but theyre not at 60g
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>>>/toy/
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>>85262147
Most "Silvers" or "Speed Silvers" are considered to be the lightest without being annoying. Usually at 40g or lower. In terms of Topre though, they do 30g domes which bottom out at around 35g. Dangerously light then.
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>>85233451
how much and where?
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>>85255450
seconding jwicks if available. mine are starting to wear in quite nicely after a week of use.

but honestly black inks are superior to the yellows. i have a full set. if they're *only* twice as expensive as the yellows for you, i'd seriously considering going for them because you probably can't improve upgrade that much anymore from those. i prefer the slightly higher end JWK switches though, based on my samplers (macho, alpaca, durocks, lavenders)
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I like using a trackpoint, I don't mind having to design the PCB and completely DIY it, what options do I have?
I've found the the pimoroni trackball breakout, but I'm wondering if there's any other options that I've missed.
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>>85263105
Probably just get a dactyl PCB of some sort, rip and tear open a trackball mouse and integrate them to a custom, 3D printed case/body?

Mold it perfectly to your hand shape and placement
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>>85236968
I wish they had better colors.
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>>85263509
Paint it
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>>85263547
if I wanted a custom keyboard I wouldn't buy a ducky.
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>>85263557
Then why did you buy a Ducky in the first place?
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>>85263595
I didn't, I bought a Durgod.
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>>85263603
Fair enough. Doesn't stop you from being a faggot though.
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Can my mkg frens help me list out a build
am newfag and no idea what I'm doing.

>Features
I'd like to build. I don't have a ton of soldering experience, not sure how difficult it is. Maybe I should go for Hot swap pcb?
I like the little LCD screens in top right of board.
I also like removable USB-C cable.
Fairly solid feeling.
Either a white or black chassis. Matte. Not sure depends on what I choose for keycaps.
>Budget
Max $500USD. Sweet spot $350-400 or less.
>Other
USA
was thinking Box Thick Jade
ANSI
Full Size
No key backlight. I don't mind a glow around the outer edge.

I don't know what I want to do for a chassis or keycaps.
I do like the style of picrel, but regular layout though (numpad on outside). The green caps are ugly though.
Just trying to give a style idea if anyone has suggestions.
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>>85260948
>do you have a repo for yours ?
Sure, here.
https://github.com/carbonfet/dactyl-manuform
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>>85263640
>I'd like to build. I don't have a ton of soldering experience, not sure how difficult it is.
To be clear, I wouldn't be opposed to soldering.
As long as I'm not at high risk of frying expensive switches or the pcb I buy because I kept it on a microsecond too long or wrong angle or something. Not sure how delicate these parts are.
I have a Pinecil iron, so basically a TS80/100.
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>>85263493
You mean make something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEuKa5OjU8g
I guess that's possible, I'll look into it thanks anon.
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>>85259912
Fuck choc v1
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>>85236968
I just got a Ducky One 2 and it's super comfy. Couldn't be happier. The detachable cable is awesome, I can take it with me wherever I want ans just leave the cable on the desk. No stooping to get behind the computer.
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>>85237773
Distrotube has a review of this, very positive. I would never want one, though.
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>>85238379
Nothing's in stock right now. Took 2 months to get my new Ducky. It ships from Taiwan.
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>>85264467
You're going to blow your load with a wireless mechanical keyboard lmao
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>>85264709
Bever heard of a woreless mechanical keyboard. Sounds comfy.
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>>85264878
Fugg. Phoneposting. Now frogposting.
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>>85264878
Might as well step up and just skip ahead of mechanical keyboards and join the rubber dome gang.


Totally worth it for the best typing experience possible.
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>>85263640
>>85263672
Unfortunately for you there aren't that many notable full size keyboards. The only one that looks interesting is the zambumon sar but thyat's still in prototyping phase.

Honestly you're better off getting a 60/65/75/TKL and doing a side numpad like this one. https://keebsforall.com/collections/group-buys-and-pre-orders/products/fb-numpad-lite
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>>85265578
>Unfortunately for you there aren't that many notable full size keyboards.
I have small options despite wanting to build?
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>>85265726
The only one I can think of instock is this
https://cannonkeys.com/collections/keyboard-kits/products/stacked1800-keyboard-kit
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Which switch feels like Cherry browns, but is nice and smooth?
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>>85265161
Aren't normal keyboards rubber dome? I thought mechanical switches were supposed to be better.
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>>85233027
I'm probably asking for the impossible, but is there a decent 60% prebuilt with full QMK support?
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https://youtu.be/5UQnZKcd3QQ
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>>85266557
https://kbdfans.com/collections/60-fully-assembled
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>>85266842
nvm i thought they always had qmk support but it seems only the blade60 has qmk support
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>>85266449
they are. anon here is suggesting Topre (or Topre clones like Niz), which also use a rubber dome, but feel noticeably different from the cheap rubber dome over membrane keyboards you may be used to, and use a different technology for activation (electrocapacitive sensors instead of a conductive membrane).
some people swear by those types of keyboards and wouldn't use anything else. some people don't like them and prefer standard mechanical keyboards.
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Numpad chuds keep seething
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>>85264546
Damn, glad you got it in the end. I did find Ducky One available somewhere but it's in lazada which I have never heard of before and I don't think they ship internationally.
Think I will email Ducky and ask if that keyboard is still being manufactured, or is it just a shortage issue, thanks.
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>>85267364
Let us know if you hear back, I'm also interested
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>>85266873
all kbdfans stuff have VIA support which is easier to use
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is mechkeyboards.com the only way to get a ducky one 3? I like my current board but i'm just wondering why it's hard to find one.
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>>85268075
you right but thats also besides the point
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So I haven't bitten the bullet on buying a new keyboard for a long time, especially because it's seemingly hard to find good ones in Canada, and I have no soldering experience or place to keep/use a soldering iron lmao, also I'm a poorfag rn and can't justify $150+ on a keyboard. My friend gave me his old cooler master quickfire rapid a while back and it's still ticking, the cherry reds are getting on my gfs nerves so it'd be nice to change them. Is there anyway to check whether the switches are swappable?
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is here any sofware fr he gk68?
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>>85268813
get a hyperx alloy origins core, not expensive, very good red switches and aluminum base, feels pretty nice to type with

that or wait to order a ducky one3
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I have boba u4t and I love them. Was thinking of getting another keyboard with the quiet version u4. Are they as nice to type on or am I going to find them mushy.
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>>85269002
The ducky looks sweet but they're like $200 hahaha. That hyperx looks pretty good though, definitely going on the short list.
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>>85269011
I think the silent U4's feel just as nice as the U4Ts so go for it anon
>>85268813
Most prebuilts from a big company won't be hot swap. If you really want to swap them out, prepare to learn how to solder and desolder to remove the old switches.
>>85266424
I've heard JWK pewters and cotton candy switches are both good light tactiles.
https://loobedswitches.com/products/cotton-candy-switches
https://parallel.limited/collections/pewter-light-tactile-switches
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>>85268813
>the cherry reds are getting on my gfs nerves
how so?
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>>85269229
Fuck I just embarassed myself, I thought the reds were the loud ones and I was wrong lmao. It has blues.
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I'm going to get another keyboard but I'm a lazy man. Is the gmmk pro as good as a kbd67 lite?
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>>85268974
>is here any sofware fr he gk68?

yeah its some chinese software thats really shitty to use.

its called gk6x plus, it should be on the epomaker website or on github somewhere
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>>85252454
That's a lie
I have been using this for over a year modified it to my liking and I have zero issues with durability or the software.
Another thing is that you can customize it more with a tripod or other attachment via the connector pieces under the keyboard.....You'll need a 3d printer or buy some over priced piece of shit supplied by ZSA
If you game I would say get this over the Dactyl if you don't then Dactyl is the GOAT.
I'm too far gone don't mind me I can't even see the shore
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>>85265578
>a side numpad like this one. https://keebsforall.com/collections/group-buys-and-pre-orders/products/fb-numpad-lite
This isn't wireless, is it?
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>>85270376
if you already have a keyboard, and you're eyeing a budget enthusiast board, just save up for something nicer.
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The $70 switches for my $30 kb just arrived
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>>85271568
good, switches are the most important part of the keyboard.
are you changing the keycaps?
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>>85271678
I wish, but it's literally impossible to find keycaps for this kb because it uses the ABNT2 layout (which is ISO with some extra shit).
I was even thinking on changing the entire kb just to pick an ANSI one, but I'll leave it for later.
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>>85271678
>>85271702
But since I just got the switches and also a Wowstick, I'll be opening the keyboard for some cleanup and mods (mostly that one where we fill it with cotton)
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>>85271702
ah I see, yeah the short right shift could be a little more annoying to find keycaps for. if you don't need the exact correct legends I'm sure you can find something, but it's probably not going to be the cheapest.
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>>85271702
Lmao what an awful layout for finding keycaps. You're wrong that its hard to find keycaps for that, almost all of the high end stuff will kit that.
But you've fucked yourself deep in the anus because of the combination of needs iso spacebar + needs small right shift + needs tkl nav cluster.
You'd be looking at like $95 to kit it out with Domikey, the cheapest high end stuff.
If you don't type in a language that basically requires an iso layout, yeah get an ansi board bro.

>>85271568
What the fuck u4t's are $70 now?
Is this true or is anon just retarded guys?
We need to stop recommending them if they're $70. Feker Pandas are like $30/110 and just as good. I can justify that price for the switch and see people wanting to buy them for that much, but it shouldn't be one of the default tactile recommendations anymore if it is that expensive. Just no.
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I've been using the MX Blue version of this: https://www.ikbckeyboard.com/product-page/cd108-v-2 for more than 5 years and I've been thinking of getting more enthusiast. Is there a good price-to-performance upgrade from this? What would I be gaining from an upgrade? (assume I know nothing because I don't, got this on sale for $50)
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Are there any worthwhile options for prebuilt split ortholinear 75% keyboards?
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I just got one of these cause of the hot anime babe on the box.
The keyboard is pretty cool too I guess.
I've been using a noppoo choc mini with mx reds for the last 10 years, so I got blues in this one this time and they're pretty different. Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>85272768
I enjoyed reading your blog, thank you for sharing. Please post more in the future.
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would it be worth getting a whole soldering station for a single soldering job?
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>>85272933
Maybe I will in 5-10 years when I buy a new keyboard.
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>>85273089
nah just use gorilla glue
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>>85271269
I have a kbd67 lite now. What would be a considered a nicer keyboard?
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>>85272768
I was looking at getting one of those at one point they look kinda cool. Is it nice to type on?
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>>85272248
Bobas were $6.50 for 10 when I got them. Those fever pandas are a good deal. Are they as good as bobas?
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>>85272734
maybe not 75% exactly but the ergodox EZ is nice, there's the 'hot dox' V2 coming out soon, or falba tech offers a few prebuilt variations of the ergodox
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>>85273631
Yeah so far it feels pretty good. The low profile definitely feels different. It's like higher than a laptop scissor switch but lower than normal ones. I feel like it's a little easier on the wrists though.
The low profile feels nice for playing games though; less travel sorta makes it feel a little more responsive I guess.
Keep in mind I'm not really picky though. I used my choc mini with reds for 10 years and the only thing I ever changed on it was putting some rubber o-rings on the keycap stems. Only reason I've bought a new board is because some of the keys were developing a multiple input problem.
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>>85273163
There's always going to be a nicer keyboard, anon
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>>85273812
Not that anon but, yrackpoint/trackball, OLED screen, maybe an encoder, that there would be my current goal for a travel keeyboard
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>>85272248
>Feker Pandas
Where are you finding these for $30/110? I did a quick search on AliExpress and I'm seeing ~$45/110
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>>85273887
Lol what's a keyboard that's an improvement to the kbd67 but doesn't cost much more so max 200 or so
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>>85274028
There's the aluminum kbd67 for a bit extra, the NK65 though it's plate-mounted stabilizers, the portico, or you could build a custom nibble. I think the kbd67 lite holds up great in the $200 range though I have one too, could always try out new switches or caps with yours
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>>85274325
Yeah I was basically thinking just build another kbd67 lite with different switches or get a gmmk pro but I don't see a lot of love for the gmmk pro here.
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>>85274343
The knob Q1 (and knobless once the improvements are backported) obsoletes the GMMK Pro imo
Cheaper, decent stabilizers, actual gasket mount typing experience, and actually implements community feedback in revisions
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>>85233451
i switched back to my 1986 model M as a daily last year after my fc900r bit the dust
forgot how comfy these fat fucks are
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>>85233451
That's Sakura from Sakura Card Captor, not Sailor Moon
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OK, it took me longer than I've thought it would. Also, my keyboard was disgustingly filthy.

But now, even without changing the caps, the keyboard is way more "thoccy" than it was, the sound of typing on it is way more satisfying.
Also the tactile feedback from the Bobas is way better than the one from the Outemu Browns I was using.
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>>85256468
50 more for a fXT from china
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>>85262147
You could get a Hunstman V2 or a Apex Pro and change the actuation depth to the minimum. Even the stock Huntsman can almost actuate from resting your fingers
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niz v topre
i want one of em
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What are the best sounding linears out there?
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>>85233640
I literally just ordered this today.
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>>85276315
did you LITERALLY ?
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>>85272734
Check keeb.io. Iirc they had some larger split keyboards, prebuilt and not.
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https://youtu.be/5UQnZKcd3QQ

I'm more interested to hear what this switch would sound like on a G80 or any old Cherry boards.
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What's a good keyboard that's tactile, quiet and minimal preferably full sized and under $200 USD?
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What happened to Cherry? Complacency and lack of innovation? Patents expiring?
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>>85277422
NIZ X108 maybe
>>85277503
They just can't compete with the speed of so many new players after their patents expired
Also lots of brands built themselves up (like Gateron and Kailh) and undercut them on their basic switches
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>>85269331
you wont embarrass yourself so fast theres people here that get very angry if someone doesnt dislike perfectly fine keyboards

desoldering a whole keyboard is a pain in the ass so i dont know if its the best option to pick if you dont have soldering experience but if you do get some wire because you will rip some pads off probably.

>>85273089
yeah because theyre pretty inexpensive and incredibly good to have laying around.
depends on what you call a soldering station but the minimum (imo) is a soldering iron you can choose the temp for, a stand for the iron and a sponge/brass shit to clean the tip off.
get a t12 kit from alie or order a pinecil if you want something cheap.
it might also be worth to check your second hand market

>>85275875
your mom and my dick is the stem, tolerances are tight considering your moms pussy dimensions
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>>85259119
>PBT doubleshot. They will have much more limitations on how they can be colored.
what kind of limitations? Contrast getting messed up?
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>>85277503
Cherry just has the massive manufacturing capacity not only for industrial and commercial markets but also for "premium" gaming OEM brands.

They haven't had the market challenge or competition to change their ways. Basically, they still are the biggest players in the mechanical keyboard switch industry.
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Don't mind me, I'm just the best keyboard ever designed
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>>85278432
I've had this on mx blue for years, until the caps lock (remapped to control) and tab started to experience scanning issues and LEDs broke.
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>>85278432
only the same as every other fucking keyboard from the last 30 years, wow so good
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>>85275144
NiZ easy.
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>>85278432
>generic black shit
No.
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>>85278432
>not split
>standard, non-ergonomic layout
wow who gives a shit
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>>85279575
>wow who gives a shit
Gaymers
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>>85279575
That's not a standard layout
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>>85279993
it might aswell be for the point he's making.
the point was about ergonomics, it having dedicated arrow keys is besides the point.
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>>85279575
>muh spergonomics
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>>85279575
Split is retarded.
Unless you are codemonkey or need to write a lot of text why would you need all this shit? its ugly as shit, you are literally souless npc obsesses with produyctivity and effiency.
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>>85233027
Today, I got my mech keyboard and I'm happy :-)
I think I'll order another one in few days based on my experience.

I already ordered some "programming" stuff on aliexpress today too
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>>85281406
>you are literally souless npc obsesses with produyctivity and effiency.
stop having a vagina and thinking over logical arguments with emotions.
theres no reason to hate on keyboards being split as it comes at no cost (except for ironically often a higher price) and is straight up better.
except for efficiency ergonomics and build quality what else is there that you want to be better ? these are the core things a keyboard as a tool can improve in that will improve how well it works generally.
split and tenting has been proven to help with posture
inb4 anecdotal attempt at downplaying the need for good posture
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>>85281592
>I think I'll order another one in few days based on my experience.
the void inside of you will never be filled by buying keyboards
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>>85281603
>and is straight up better.
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>>85281710
what is a con to keyboards being split ?
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>>85281603
>theres no reason to hate on keyboards being split
Other than that they are ugly as sin.
There no need for efficiency and ergonomics to shitpost on 4chan and browse net.

You are just obsessed efficiency and ergonomics akin to barneyfag with ponies or chrischan with sonic.
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>>85281755
They are ugly as sin and you do noty need them other than autism and professional reasons.
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>>85281603
>vagina
>keyboards
Pick one, roasties are repulsed by keyboards save for few expections.
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>>85281630
as a poor 3rd world person it felt nice to just buy whatever I wanted with money I got from work
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>>85281780
>>85281762
thanks for proving me right i guess.
have a good one
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>>85281406
do you have to speak in such a vulgar tongue?
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any tips for a noob who wants to build a custom mechanic kb?
>silent
>for programming/redacting
>wireless is a plus
>no RGB
>no rgb
>layout 100% (num and F keys)
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whats wrong with ortho
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>>85281793
i didnt mean it literally

>>85281796
hey, the term "third world country" is deprecated and doesnt have any value behind it
its a really popular thing to spend a lot of money on multiple keyboards as some obsession/addiction and i didnt want you to stroll down that path as it lacks any fruits.
you do you tho and i hope you enjoy your keyboard(s)


>>85281925
i don't think there's anything wrong with having keys organized in an ortho way.
using ortho without any extra space between your hands does increase ulnar deviation which isn't something you should pursue.
if you go ortho i would reccomend having a couple of columns in between your hands(like picrel) or straight up going for split to mitigate that
other than that ortho is fine, its really nice to type on and it helped me a lot with typing correct.
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>>85281872
rgb can be turned off and going out of your way to not get something unobtrusive is some ocd shit.
just as a heads up 100% doesnt have many options at all but im sure some anons can help you with that
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>>85281817
>passive agressive tone
>stop having a vagina
Follow your own advice.
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>>85282013
am I better buying a prebuilt keyboard and replacing switches/keycaps i find the need for? I don't want to fail the pc master race god and become a plebuild
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>>85281993
>mass replies
Reddit is that way.
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>>85282014
my advice was using logic to determine if something was bad or good
i didnt fail my advice by having a different tone

>>85282056
it can be an interesting route to take but i'd wait a bit for some options to come in, i think someone else was asking about custom 100%'s the other day
that aside i dont think its inherently a bad option

>>85282115
mfw that 9u spacebar
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>>85282056
Depends what you need or want.
If you want non standard switch or custom keycaps than its better to buy barebones board, switches of your choice and keycaps.
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>>85282140
How does it feel knowing you will never have a pen rest
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i've never done it and am happy with my keyboard now, but explain why people lube switches: if you have good stabs already, do you need to?
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>>85282868
redditors coping with cherry's shit quality, as trans people chop off their dick and dilate, redditors will mangle their switches into frankensteins and lube them
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>>85282868
lubing the switches has nothing to do with the stabs
it's supposed to help with the smoothness of the travel
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>>85283181
i'd rather have quick keystrokes than the sensation of them moving through quicksand
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>>85283193
good then just use a light lube. i hate how reddits favourite krytox 205 feels on switches but a light lube like the one i use is amazing and doesnt give you a weird feeling at all
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>>85282868
If you're happy with your keyboard now then great don't ever bother with lube. Depends on the switch but most factory lube jobs are fine for most people. I'd argue lubricating stabilizers is more important than switches and its way easier to do
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New to the hobby. How do you guys open your switches? Should I buy a metal switch opener?
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>>85283244
How does Krytox 205 feel? I want to make the smoothest linear switches.
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What switches do you guys prefer? Any preference for Cherry over something like Gaterons?
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>>85277419
send me a few and i can try it on mine. been pondering which board i should do a millmax project with and this would give me an excuse to do it, along with swapping the AT connector for a PS/2 one.
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>>85283751
>I want to make the smoothest linear switches.
buy a contactless board (and you can even lube it if you want)
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>>85283751
it for sure will help with that but just dont overlube as its really thick.
i think i would rather have a thin lube when it comes to premium switches. my tealios honestly felt better unlubed even
also yeah having contactless switches should be smoother
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>>85284796
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