Daily reminder editionThis thread is for the discussion of portable media players and in-ear monitors.•/iemg/ Recommends HackMD:https://hackmd.io/@AyPeeEye/S1sNUVosu•Extensive PMP Guide:https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Falign-centre.hatenablog.com%2Fentry%2F2021%2F06%2Fdap-comparison-2021-06•Why use a PMP instead of a phone?>better DAC/AMP>more output power so it can drive higher impedance headphones>smaller sizes than phones for activities like exercise>physical buttons>headphone jacks>some people can't use smartphone at work/use dumbphones•How to request advice:>Budget>Source (phone or PMPs)>Location>Kind (in-ears or earbuds)>Sound Signature (or genres you like, important!)>Past gear and your thoughts on them (important!)/iemg/ Hall of Fame:• [picrel]• [Insert meme here]/pmp/ Hall of Fame:• Your phone• Hiby R3 Pro / Pro Saber• Sony NWA-55 + Mr Walkman mod• Fiio M11+/USB/BT DAC/ Hall of Fame:• Tempotec Sonata HD Pro• e1da 9038s/d• Qudelix 5K/TWS/ Hall of Fame:none, stop askingOld thread:>>85215171
>>85228615Moondrop SSRs are better than etys. your graph just emphasizes how generic and sterile they are
Ohnonono etybros we got too cocky
>>85228663>SSR>super shouty retard>EAR RAPE>Enjoy your tinnitus
>>85228663SSR are for half deaf old people who find shouty iems good.
Reposting >>85211987Turns out they were delivered almost exactly a year ago from when they died. Currently still able to "use" them by turning the left balance down a whole 50%, but don't want to start paying a $40 yearly subscription to get MOONDROPPED every January. After looking at stuff I'm considering Hzsound Heart Mirror, original SIMGOT EN700, or Shuoer H27. That last one hasn't been mentioned in the /g/ archive apparently. Other things I've seen I might like (going off graphs alone) are the Tanchjim Hana or the ER3SE mod. I have the Tin T2 Pro and hate them since I can't tolerate its highs too long. Still looking for small, cheap, bright but not shouty IEM's if there are other recommendations.
>>85229483Consider ClearConceptAudio CRA
>>85229528What does CRA means anyways? Sounds suspiciously similar to KZ CRN and announced around the same time too. What if it's another crinacle stealth collab?
>>8522870720-25 Hz and 15kHz gets a free pass
Blessing 2 vs Dusk, which is better? Or are they technically the same with slightly different tuning?
>>85229641Nah kz says it's house tune>>85229693Sounds like deaf
>>85229693Borderline ear rape is fine too. Just like irl rape, crossing the border is a criminal offense, but a little teasing close to the edge can be arousing and hot
>>85229747They might just copy Crin’s tune and make their own
>>85229745Are you a bassnigger?
>>85229762I’m more into vocal, eh..
>>85228615>12dB gain region ear rapengmi
>>85228615Is the P1 Plus the perfect IEM?
>>85229760Chink getting chinked by chink. Liek pottery.
I wish cca or kz make another iems with purple color. I know it's tranny color but i swear i'm not a tranny, i just loves purple color.
>>85229825I would seriously start monitoring your onions product consumption, I am worried about you anon...
>>85229795tin p1 plus : 1planar endgametin t1 : 1dd endgame (re-cable this)mim audio dark magician : 1dd dark horse
>>85229795Its perfect for tinnitus
>>85229825buy blon purple
Rec me green iems, I love green
So cx31993 is the Android version of the Apple dongle right?When buying cx31993 from aliexpress, how do I avoid getting chinked? Just buy the one with most orders?
>>85229870These are greenhttps://www.amazon.com/DCMEKA-Earphones-Professional-Isolating-Headphones/dp/B09HQSFMT1/ref=mp_s_a_1_58
>>85229878Just buy the most expensive one frfr no cap. The extra cost means its from a good batch and good qc. The cheaper ones are guaranteed to be from a lower grade bin.
For an audiphile discussion, this general seems to care a bit too much how their iems look and whether the packaging box has an anime girl on it.
>>85229870>>85229900Shit taste. Looks like slimy mucus oozing out of your ears
>>85229900Hm... no, I prefer emerald green. Also that thing looks cheap. I want a something more “royal” and “luxurious”
>>85229760You need your meds anon
>>85229934No waifu = no buy
>>85229825are you perhaps black or an evangelion fan
>search thread for Kato>0 resultsSeems like the forced "Kato Gods" meme has finally died...or the posters literally suicided from buyer's remorse
>>85230197Kato will live in your mind rent free forever.
>>85230197there are only two confirmed kato owners in the threadand they are fineeverything else is schitzo posting
Yo.My basterds.What is the LETSHUOER S12 coupon??Someone share!!!
>>85230250don't buy that pos bro it's 2bright
>>85230162Not black, watched evangelion but not a fan of it.Become a purplefag because of vk4
>>85229856Got the silver OG one, not liking it because after a few minutes it somehow got pushed a bit out of my ear and i have to push it in again. Dunno, maybe it's the eartips or the nozzle angle. I already sold it to my friend because he offered to buy it at full price.
good iems for gaming? footsteps and shit?should i just pick up a neutral/bright pair?
>>85230516a compressor is more important for that unless you just want to give yourself actual tinnitus from virtual gunshots trying to listen to footsteps
Should i gatekeep iems hobby from tranny? My tranny coworker is asking me for a recommendation, i want to give him the shoutiest and peakiest iem do you have any suggestion?
>>85230578Unironically CRA. Tell him to play everything at 100 volume for best experience.
>>85230578SSRBonus points for tranime box cover
>>85230578anon, don't be an asshole, especially to the mentally illthey have enough problems as it is
Redpill me on how uncomfortable the er2 is. How the fuck can that thing fit inside your ear? Can't be healthy
>>85230578CRA unironically. At last some use for that pos. Xe'll probably be happy at first but tinnitus will soon to follow, and then, 41%
>>85229747>Sounds like deaf>Not being able to hear the near extreme end of human hearing is considered deafSo you can hear below 25hz and above 15khz very loud and clear then? Sounds like schizo.
>>85230578>should I gatekeepThe answer is always yes. If you give it a bad recommendation then it might go to some online group and explain its experience asking for another recommendation and get a good cheap recommendations instead. Then you'll have to deal with it asking if you've heard ever past fotm iem like someone discovering memes for the first time and saying them in real life.
>>85230656You are either a womanlet(male) with small canals or you never heard of replaceable eartips
>>85230565yea thats true, i'll just pick up a moondrop aria. i currently use a dt 1990 pro but wanted iems for the summer since it gets a bit sweaty
>>85230710>aria>wanted iems for the summer since it gets a bit sweatyOH NO NO NO NO NO NO
I feel like it's mostly people here LARPing because they can't afford what they want, or are doubling down because they bought something that was either waifu bait or shilled to hell then realized said product isn't as great as they thought it would be. If you bought shit you don't like, swallow your pride and find something else. If you spent all your money on said IEMs and can't afford to buy another pair then I can't help you.> B-b-but this guy said this graph is the holy grail! Surely their opinion is 100% the only correct opinion!Learn what you like first, find a graph for it and give it a broad overview. Then, realize everyone's taste is different. Once your done both of those steps, you can talk graphs without looking like a dipshit/LARPer.And, to the anon who sold their schizo meds to buy IEMS on one of the old threads, THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING????Owner of:> Kato Moondrops (New favorite)> Sennheiser IE100 Pros (Thought they were nice at first, but sound like mud if I'm being honest)> Sennheiser GSP 600s (Really nice, on par with my Katos with my current gear)Got a tube amp for christmas and it was chinesium, and broke :C Next time I buy a cheap tube amp I'm doing a tear down to actually make sure there's no solder splatters on the PCB
i dont like overear what's a good iem for under 100doesn't matter where its from
>>85230746I sold my Kato's.
>>85229878i was looking to get this too, is it still the best budget dac for android?
I'm a bassnigger and I want to enjoy this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoI6f3drCWY without acquiring tinnitus and earrape any 40$ below recommendations? thank you
>>85230792This sound has waaaay too much bass already mixed in, it would sound bassniggerish even on ER2SE. By using something that has 10dB bass boost on top you'd be hard pressed to hear vocals at all.> without acquiring tinnitus and earrape any 40$ below recommendations?T2 plus
>>85230754CCA CRA*shrug*trippwin lea
>>85230755Did you find something better, or just not like them from the get go?
>>85230754ksc75jk maybe t2+ for something all-rounder
Everyone is praising S12 and says that those are better timeless, the year of planars begins! Thanks timeless bros for testing the waters. Now I'm waiting for 10$ planars from KZ.
>>85230754ER2SE as in the OP$70 at Massdrop$49 at Adorama (google search for the discount link)
>>85230831Oh I can elaborate. I rather liked the sound, the imaging and timbre was the best of all IEMs I own (they were a tad bright for some of the busier/noiser tracks but are very easy to EQ). What compelled me to sell them however was the fit and comfort - too heavy, never secure, subpar noise isolation. I use my IEMs outdoors a lot and didn't need another pair for home use.
>>85230857Bro you didn't get the memo...ER2SE adorama promo is over.
>>85230692>he can't hear 20hz and 15+khzLolLmao
>>85230710>buying moondrop>is sweaty
>>85230894It's ok anon. We understand its tough to live with audiotry hallucination. Try not to skip your meds everyday, okay?
>>85230814>T2 plusthank you
>>85230967I would have to stress that it is not a basshead IEM. Buy Tanya if you need basshead, it would make something like When the Levee Breaks sound like it was mixed by modern standards and >Lovefool - Pomplamoose (Live) - The Cardigans sound like abhorrent mud city.
>>85230986>Pomplamoose (Live) - The Cardigans sound like abhorrent mud cityhow about this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgEH9BSHL-g I got frissons the first time i heard this cover but not anymore
>>85230998Bass guitar sounds louder than everything else by a good margin, meaning it would sound bassy even on something flat like ER2SE. Do understand that mixing is on the sound engineer and they have their own preferences on how the song should sound. This is how a reasonable mix sounds like, percussion is not super forward https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwNXiXBjiBoThis is how a niggerbass mix sounds like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Eu2NFo4zsYou can get away with using a basshead iem on the 1st but not the 2nd, it'd just sound bad
>>85230754Tanchjim TanyaMoondrop QuarksTin T2
If your entire IEM collection suddenly poofed out of existence what would be the first 3 IEM's you repurchase to start your new collection?
>>85230954Sounds like deaf coping
>>85230792Wait for nggar dq6>>85231044NuraCRA
>>85230852They're gonna add magnetostat and BA just to fuck up the timbre.
>>85231036okay so I only need flat because the songs I listen are already bassy right? Is T2 plus good for long hours of listening?
>>85231127> Is T2 plus good for long hours of listening?Yes. Its only weak point is below average sound isolation.
$100-$250AUD budget looking for some sugestions for smaller diameter iems. I've tried on moondrop starfield and were a little too big. My shure se215 were more comfortable in that regard.
>>85231189Thieaudio Legacy 2
EQ'd CCA CRA is literally endgame.
>>85231204shitheiser obliteratedtinnitus is a small price to pay
>>85231189Get cringicle's shilled iem
>>85230754thanks for all the suggestions debating between the tanya, t2+, and moondrop quarks.
>>85231223this video has sound demoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAo51hHjrTc
>pulled the trigger on shuoer s12my P1 will have a planar friend now ^-^
>>85231258they're brighter than P1 bro...
>>85231272bro here's them both normalized at same SPL
>>85230710DO NOT DO THIS!!!for real, all Moondrop single DDs use these retarded fabric dampers that get clogged with moisture in minutes and block half the sound. And all their paintjobs turn into chipped or toxic bubbling messes in a few months. Definitely not good for your use case.
What are some IEF-pilled IEMs?
christ what's wrong with L2 treble extension
>>85231204>>85231209Just bear in mind he only listens to classical music, which has almost no treble or bass, so CRA and ie900 tunings are perfect for his use case, with the upper mids boosted via eq
>>85231318Read the OP picrel
>>85231339>he only listens to classicalHow is U-shaped preferred for classical? He should be using something like Tanchjim Oxygen>>85231343All ety's except for maybe er3 have too much shout.
>>85231339There is a classical music instrument literally called Double Bass and also the piercing violins you uncultured nigger.
My Sony WF-1000XM4 will arrive today :3
>>85231351ER2SE overall is closer to the IEF than ER3s which is more treblet
>>85231393Pinna gain amount is VERY important, all in all both are unqualified for IEF.
Is there any iems with cunny box art? I'm tired of seeing old hag on the box art
>>85231451CCP forbids cunny
>>85231044Excellent topic.SA6 and Xelento are no-brainers, 3rd is trickier...something with close to DF mids for acoustic/classical, but not the ER4s. I'm actually temporarily stumped. Maybe modded Believes (except you can't get them any more). I'm not even sure what I want actually exists at a price I'm willing to pay.
>>85231044I'd just get Variations again.
>>85231465I recently missed a deal on mint SA6 for $370, should I kys?
Is there a better iem than the ER2XR brahs
Got the CRA, will compare it with my other IEMs once it's here :)Hoping it BTFOs my og VK4 (which I love).
>>85231474Not if the Midnight is as good as Crin would have us believe, or you find an m7 deal. And there's always Dusk if you can handle the size.
>>85231339Classical has a lot of bass and treble, it just depends on the work in question, the acoustic of the hall, and the mastering of the record ofcPoint is a badly tuned bright IEM or headphone is gonna sound just as painful even on classical. t. Previous HD800 owner whose ears bled without EQ
>>85231739Both IE900 and CRA are bright af, tgx78 probably has hearing loss.
>>85231745Based CRA making people deaf. A new age of brightly tuned iems awaits us
>>85226169gonna try again since i didn't get any replies.
>>85230704How would the tips change how long you need to shove the thing in your ears for?
Prepare your anus
>>85231736>Niggerbass and tinnitusTruly based
>>85231849i wasn't prepared for that ugly ass font
do portable dacs draw power from the phone? if so, is it negligible?
>>85231884>if so, is it negligible?apple dongle yeschinkshit no
So the etycuck forced his meme and made his opinion the bible of /iemg/, is there anything worth considering other than ER2SE anymore?
>>85231739Sorry, you're absolutely right, i guess I meant sub bass and treble relative to mids or something.Pic related is from Stravinsky (Eotvos' Rite of Spring)
>>85231896>is there anything worth considering other than ER2SE anymore?Moondrop Kato
cheapest 4.4mm pmp?My 2.5mm get snapped every 2 years.
>>85231896Etys are for deaf basslet boomers to listen to thott "singer/songwriters".And fuck that design.
>>85231905Too much bass
>>85232018It was a conscientious decision from Moondrop to stray from VDSF for lower volume listening.
ER4XR flat-response-fuck-off-peasant here.Some absolute hero made me a MMCX-to-whatever-Etymotic-proprietary-shit-plug, but my chink-MMCX cables are dying.Any recommendation on some over-ear-MMCX cables that can be bent to go around the whole ear and link to the Etymotics from below instead of the usual IEM cable-path?Over-ear is mandatory for less microphony, but if I connect the usual IEM cable path the Etys rotate out of the ear.
Olina waiting room
>>85231223>t2+T3 Plus is better.
>>85232177bggar's t2+ graph is incorrect (5dB too much bass, probably taped/blocked vent)
>>85231951You got it wrong the opposite way. If flat response bass sounds good and loud enough, your ears are perfect. The more you need to pump into the low freq region to hear bass on your music the more it means that you had niggerfied your ears.
>>85232123Obliterated by CCA CRA
>>85232256that was a pic of olina's shells, not eardrums
>>85232261Post eardrums obliterated by CRA
>>85232222"Yes hello quads man? Bggar is shit and sharur has no iems."
>>85232285visit an otolaryngologist and ask for a picture
>>85232306You can shit on Aria all you want but it fits in your graph so it shouldn't obliterate my ears.
>>85232378Aria obliterates itself.
>>85231899One of my favorite bass moments in Stravinsky is in The Rite of Spring when the bass drum kicks in.https://litter.catbox.moe/sgms5v.ogg
>>85232395I live in a dry place and don't sweat much, so it's still doing great. Might get spring tips for the KATO experience.
>>85232437https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGWuE2m8sc0Aria is still better than 99% of IEMs you'll be fine mr...>I live in a dry place and don't sweat muchmalnourished muslim?
I'm still using JBL earphones I got with alcathel one touch. I looked on hall of fame and wonder if earphones for 20-40$ Do I even notice a difference? Do higher price really made difference from 20-40$ ones?
Do not wear CRA, it has been tuned by the CCP glowie at the right frequency to affects how your brain perceive reality and triggered schizophrenic reaction.
>>85232663I wear tinfoil hat I'm fine.
My basterds.What is the LETSHUOER S12 coupon??Someone share!!!
>>85232694Sir do not redeemIs exceedingly bright sir
>>85232486Some free bundled earphone you get with smartphones/pmp are actually good. A popular example are the Samsung AKG that you get with their smartphone and the Sony MH755 that you get with Walkmans.Personally, i've got a Sony MH1C that was bundled with an Xperia phone circa 2011. My first impression on it was WOW this actually sound good, but i dont really know how relatively good it was compared to other retail earphones because i never bought one. It's not until almost a decade later that i've finally found out on the web that this particular earphone was hyped out as keeper and i'm glad that im still using mine as backup earphone.But ive never heard about those JBL earphone though...and Alcatel?? Aren't those an old dead phone brand? So in your case a sub $40, or even $20 is probably a safe bet. Current hype is CCA CRA for less than $20.
>>85231700Both are good for different needs. I myself still prefer VK4 for everything. Bass are both good, CRA having fast bass and VK4 with heavy but controlled bass. Mids and vocals goes to VK4, very emotional and engaging. Treble CRA takes the cake but i didn't mind the lack of resolution on VK4. Tech CRA btfo VK4 but VK4 is just super well tuned that i didn't even care much about it.
>>85232888My drivers go 100 mph
>>85232902but can it do snappy transients?
>>85231314>>85230910>>85230721oh, well what should i get then to not be sweaty?
>>85232915Sir I implore to reconsider
>>85232938I tried EQ'ing to Aladdin, sounds kinda nice but diffused and vocals are not as forward as I would like.
>>85232922 But kato has no techs >>85232222
>>85232964Kato is merely the best 1DD on the market.
>>85232922>muh graphIt's good.https://youtu.be/0bCo6aJNhyM
>>85232996Too bright sir. No getting around it.
>>85233006Picture proof that you own it? Or just fudding because a Moondorp shill?
>>85233035Why on earth would I own it? I'm no treblehead.
>>85232904Snappy AND holographic
>>85233040People that own it like the video I linked say the treble is fine so why are you fudding if you don't own it? Need money shilling Moondorp products?
>>85233055It's fine for them because they've1. Just got it and couldn't do long time appraisal2. Have hearing loss3. Are untrained listeners4. All of the above
>>85233055>Need money shilling Moondorp products?That is 90% of the posters here. S12 is a good buy.
Was Sony in the wrong here?
>>85232663Take your meds, unironically
>>85233146Take your tinnitus meds...oh wait there's none ahahahahah
>>85232915Dunu Titan S
Sharur hasnt posted a single iem (in his life) yet but hes spamming the site like no tomorrow.
>>85233467It's me Teighan Clott
>>85233467He's banned in every audio discord and even redditards hate his bullshit. Where do you think he can post, head-fi?
>>85233521fuck off with your racism
>>85233490Does teighan actually post here or just roleplay>>85233497He would get insta ban anyway
>>85232805Sounds like I'll love the CRA then, will update. Thanks anon.
Alright team, I need the fastest IEM, manual, RWD, front-heavy, dual exhaust, holographic, snappy and responsive to power, high RPMs. Hit me with a rec.
>>85233570Obravo Ra C-Cu
>>85233570Tin hifoil p1 plusPlanar powher
>>85233570Shuoer x BGGAR EJ07m Kinda Lava
>>85233570No matter which you pick, it has to be paired with Effect Audio Centurion (only $3999) cables for maximum performance.
Vibin to 2pac shakur in my Mele's rn
>>85228615Treble doesn't cause tinnitus. Listening too loud does, so likely it will come from the midrange. Although you can just straight up get tinnitus even you have been careful your whole life. Just luck of the draw.
IEMs for this feel?
>>85233868How dare you question Shaur, /iemg/'s most experienced and knowledgeable graph reader.
>>85233893Sure, he can read a graph, but he doesn't actually know about tinnitus lol.
>>85233400>Dunu Titan Sthanks, i'll pick this up instead!
>>85233925/iemg/ has already accepted that treble causes tinnitus as a fact, you can't prove the contrary because he can and did argue with a german audio engineer. He didn't win but the engineer never came back so he win in the end.
>>85233969>>85233925why y'all so obsessed with sharur he doesn't even post here
>>85233969>>85233982Then I guess he knows more than my ENT. Tinnitus is most often caused by sustained loud sound. For example, if you are a landscaper who mows lawns every day and doesn't use ear protection. Often small motors like that will be big culprits. Or maybe you are in a band who plays loud music frequently or attends loud volume rock concerts.Hell, even guys who drive around on Harley's and loud motorcyles like that are at a serious risk.Read this image, it will give you a good idea of sound levels that will damage your hearing.
>>85233982How do you know unless youre sharur dumbass
>>85234021Because I keep getting called sharur by some resident schizo and I know I'm not him
>>85233570>foaming cuz no iems
>>85234039>driven mad by oxyshit treble peaks
>>85234042>no iems+rent free people in his head
>>85234058This is you :)
>>85234068Sorry gramps but those black border pictures with text went out of style decade ago
>>85230197Real KatoGODS move in silence
>>85230197If you post a teighan the katogod fades away for some hours
What if CRA actually causes tinnitus? Should I be worried?
>>85233881You need headphones for that.
>>85234234>I am gonna buy a really sensitive iem and blast it at full volume because my IQ is in single digits
>>85234234Read this >>85234018No headphone or IEM will CAUSE tinnitus. The volume you listen at will. Or you might just get it anyways regardless. So listen at a safe volume and you should be okay.
>>85232753it was Alcatel one plus 3 6039H to be precise. and yes. it's old in smartphone terms, but still works well as radio, and earphones are OK sounding. Can't really tell what JBL model are them exactly.
>listen at 80db>wtf why I have tinnitus
>>85234398Because we had bad luck. I've always been very careful with volume. I've had a hearing test and my hearing is fine. But I have this high pitch sound in my left ear, similar to an old tube TV whine. It's not too loud and I can mostly ignore/forget about it. But at first it kind of drove me nuts - "My audiophile life is over!" I don't think like that now. My ENT doesn't think it was caused by headphones either. It just happens sometimes.
>>85234429>use IEMs>acquire tinnitus>doesn't think it was caused by iemsuh oh
>>85234234It can't cause tinnitus directly, just hearing loss, the same as any other iem that s playing too loud.
>>85234393Human hearing has varying sensitivity across frequency range.
>>85234445I don't use IEMs.
>>85234489>iemg>I don't use IEMs why
>>85234466>diabetes >anxiety or depression >medslol 100% regulars of this general either have tinnitus or are at high risk
>>85234502Just happened to browse the thread.
>>85229745They are technically the same with slight different tuning, Dusk is a bit more "bassy"
Listening to CRA will activate the nanomachines inside your body. Everyone who got vaxxed by sinovac or any other chinese vax is now a sleeper agent.
Bought some Arias yesterday off CL for $55I'm brand new to IEMs, really digging themI've got some T2plus coming today, gotta decide if I keep those or the T3s I bought on a whim earlier this week that set me on this pathThat or just return both
>>85234814T2 plus > Aria >> T3 plus
>>85234842Literally the opposite.
Don't bother with Lea, guys. CCA CRA is the real deal.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VzKUpEjyf_ufgD4eQTpf4MUTYEK__eya9UlYZUwPnPM/edit?usp=sharing
>>85234842I found the T3s really fatiguing but like I said I'm brand new to this shit, could tell I was getting more used to it after a day
>>85234940As you should, T3+ have 12db of pinna gain and a lot of lower treble.
>>85234939these are unironically good, but the amount of modding i had to do on them is unreasonable
>>85234960what mods did you do aynon?
>>85234975drilled a second vent to demud.ripped out the filters, cause i like tinitus treble.stuffed cotton in the ba nozzle to get rid of the shout.getting them to channel match was a nightmare...
>>85235011that's a big list of yikes
>>85234931He says Lea lacks extension/air but it has more of it than his n1 spot, EJ07.
>>85235011Lmao wtf, was your vent blocked?
>>85234931The real deal for tinnitus
>>85235044Could be the mele incident 2.0.
>>85235069That's what I'm talking about. He bashes Lea for that but has no problem with EJ07 having even darker upper treble.
>>85235052how long are you going to continue >>85234466>>85234261>>85234018
>>85235103Until that health hazard is dead and buried.
>>85235051they're supposed to have a second vent where the shell is split. but bad qa means it's gunked up glue a lot of times
>>85235118If you mean the mental damage it caused then it's well deserved.
>>85235140Yep I know, got an early unit that was fine (before DSNutter shilled them), guessing it's a later unit thing.
Anyone here have gram/milligram scales and CCA CRA? Could you please weigh them without the cable?
>>85235142Permanent ringing in your ears can and will cause mental damage.
>>85235086He only listens to dad rock so who the fuck cares.
>>85235103Cra defense force sure is trying hard huh...
>>85235156But that's not specific to any one IEM.
>>85235176Except it isn't. CRA induces tinnitus at normal perceived listening volume due to highly resonant upper treble.
>>85234931Tripowin mele obsoleted
>>85235165Some cra fag trying to shit on lea apparently does. Lea isn't perfect but it's about 100x better than CRA tuning wise.
>>85235195>highly resonant upper trebleJust looked up CSD plot for them. What a fucking mess.
>>85235151built quality in general is just awful on them. they feel like toys. i would have thrown them out but i really like the sound after the mods
>>85235118You are being presented with evidence against your claim, now present your evidence or you're the tinnitus pigeonShame anon >>85234429 didn't give you ammo.
>>85235152I would but my ChinkRecommendedAudio belong to a nigger postal worker at JAMAICA NY INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTION CENTER now
>>85235250dodged the bullet, let the nigga get tinnitus instead
GUYS do NOT get the CRA. I didn't listen to the other posters here and now I have tinnitus!
>>85235250damn, you will actually make a nigger become deaf. thanks for your contribution to the society.
>>85235242What evidence you dumb fucking skitzo. CRA's upper treble can be up to 15dB louder than free/diffuse field aka normal sound dispersion.
>people without IEMs hate CRA >people with IEMs love CRA I wonder whomst I should trust hmm.
>>85235303Who are you quoting?
>>85235303get new material dude your cope is getting stale
niggas b like "i bought a $15 iem i will now spend every waking minute of my life defending it and my choice on a gnu/linux crossdressing socks discussion board"
>>85235397that's the only one he could afford
>>85235397Literal niggers be like "I don't have $15"
>>85235222Post your pair if they're so great :V
>>85235541Post your physique.
>>85235551I'm not the one making wild claims; I am short and chonky, I have no shame.
>>85235548>13196 sold>13196 sold>13196 sold>13196 sold>13196 sold
>>85235558Lea being 100x better than CRA tuning wise is not a wild claim.
>>85235563Just imagine all the tinnitus those are causing with a poor seal and using out in public.
>>85235569As wild of a claim as you having any IEMs.
>>85235583You not having IEMs will never not be funny.
>>85235569You're making claims based on squiggly lines, about a unit almost no one actually has in hand yet outside of people immediately close to Chinkland (and comparing it to a widely adopted and well-received one). That's a wild claim, me droog. Good thing no one with sense listens to you random shitposters here carrying water for things you don't even own.
>>85235594>You're making claims based on squiggly linesImagine my shock
>>85235548>>85235563>>85235576>4.6 stars out of 5
Okay it's time to blacklist "tinnitus", this obsessed clown shits out threads too fucking much.
>>85235658Constant ringing is not easy to ignore.
>>85235658Just trying to keep your ears safe man. But yea, anyone with common sense will listen at safe enough volumes. Still though, you can get tinnitus while still "following all the rules". Not related to IEMs or headphones or anything at all.
>>85235548Did they randomly use letters that looked cool without even trying to pronounce it.
>>85235675Not all Tinnitus is constant, you sillybilly.
>>85235688>Still though, you can get ****** while still "following all the rules"now where have I heard that before...
>>85235703Wait till you find out what BLON means... lol
>>85235727I'm not sure, but it's true. Probably to a lesser extent though than some idiot who is constantly blasting hearing damage levels of music.
>>85235751You're still willfully ignoring that some FR cause tinnitus more than the others.
>>85235791And where is your science to back that up? You think someone shouting in your ear will not cause tinnitus vs listening at a safe volume with an IEM that has too much treble? I'd take the treble boost.
I know we've been shitting on 180 bucks aria but man this is some next level shit
>>85235824That has nothing whatsoever to do with tinnitus. Sure, you might find the hot treble irritating, but then you would naturally turn down the volume.
>>85235749What even is oppoty
>>85235847It has everything to do with tinnitus. 10k+ response hardly contributes to the actual listening volume, hence why CRA is a hazard to hearing even in normal use.
>why yes my normal listening volume is 90db how could you tell
>>85235878It's that UKI UKI WAKU WAKU feeling you get when music sets you free!
So how much does T3+ cost in the US or other country? Mine doesn’t sell them for some reason.
>>85235791Fun fact: tinnitus doesn't care about which frequency you're listening to so in this case it isn't the treble but rather the bass that would cause tinnitus in loud listening.Protip: just turn the volume down.
>>85235943>tinnitus doesn't care about which frequency you're listening to so in this case it isn't the treble but rather the bass that would cause tinnitus in loud listeningcool broscience bro, enjoy your CRA while hearing lasts
>>85235791Holy shit that is some actually amazing channel matching for an IEM. Wow.
>>85235891But in reality there isn't much in the music around 10khz. Watch a spectrum as you listen.
>>85235965KZ has excellent QC.
>>85235982Precisely. Your hearing is getting gradually destroyed without you noticing.
>>85235965Amazing Tinnitus matching
>>85235958>cool broscience broIt's not..https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5215134/
>>85236025>posting a (((paper)))go back
>>85235920110dB of subbass is perfectly adequate.https://soundcloud.com/neonixdub/poopo-3
>>85235965this is my favorite
>>85236063>that clifflol. lmao
>>85235791>>85235804>>85235824>>85235847>>85235891>>85235943>>85235958>>85235982>>85236025>>85236043Holy fuck you're all retarded. Fuck this place. I'm just going to bye a Kato peace
>>85236079Good choice Katobro.
>>85236063LOL. wow that can't even be explained by margin-of-error due to measurement. Well done, nips.
>>85236079Good choice, recently the best thing to do is the opposite of what this cursed general tells you. Fuck this place it's gotten so bad holy shit. I miss Zishan...
>>85236079KatoGODS can see through all the retarded drivel itt
Would you rather buy 20 CRA's or one kato?
>>85235965Using automated assembly is always better than muh "handmade" from coomdrop
>>85236109This general tells me to buy and not buy CRA at the same time, what should I do?
>>85236079Could've bought a Midnight and gotten a better IEM...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25v9-F6HU2I
>>85236132Depends. Do you like causing permanent damage to your ears?
>>85236125Buy 20 CRAsSell 19 of themUse those money to buy spring tips+apple dac+az09 pro and some nice meal
>>85236132Fuck off and stop fueling them
New thread: >>85236129
>>85236132You should buy Arya
>>85236220Does it cause tinnitus?
>>85236252I already had The Tinnitus Starter Kit before I got them, so hard to say. (I got my Tinnitus from working in an industrial environment/around aircraft). I CAN say that they sound good enough that I don't care if they do.
>>85236318Kek, can’t tell if you’re being a schizo or being honest.
>>85236363Honest about already having Tinnitus (worked around helicopters for 4 years straight out of high school, no amount of earplugs or cranials will save you from getting it).Joking about not caring about getting Tinnitus. They do sound amazing, but no set is worth blowing your hearing out. Take care of your ears and watch volume levels no matter what gear you use, kids!
>>85230197>>85230213I'm a KATO owner, and I like it.I even got the waifu acrylic stand.