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This thread is for the discussion of portable media players and in-ear monitors.

•/iemg/ Recommends HackMD:
https://hackmd.io/@AyPeeEye/S1sNUVosu

•Extensive PMP Guide:
https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Falign-centre.hatenablog.com%2Fentry%2F2021%2F06%2Fdap-comparison-2021-06

•Why use a PMP instead of a phone?
>better DAC/AMP
>more output power so it can drive higher impedance headphones
>smaller sizes than phones for activities like exercise
>physical buttons
>headphone jacks
>some people can't use smartphone at work/use dumbphones

•How to request advice:
>Budget
>Source (phone or PMPs)
>Location
>Kind (in-ears or earbuds)
>Sound Signature (or genres you like, important!)
>Past gear and your thoughts on them (important!)

/iemg/ Hall of Fame:
• [insert meme here]
• QKZ VK4
• KZ ZEX
• Tin Audio T2 Plus
• BLON BL03
• Etymotic ER2/ER4
• Tanchjim Hana 2021/Oxygen
• MoonDrop Quarks/Aria/Blessing 2/Variations
• The one you enjoy using

/pmp/ Hall of Fame:
• Your phone
• Hiby R3 Pro / Pro Saber
• Sony NWA-55 + Mr Walkman mod
• Fiio M11+

/USB/BT DAC/ Hall of Fame:
• Tempotec Sonata HD Pro
• e1da 9038s/d
• Qudelix 5K

/TWS/ Hall of Fame:
• None, stop asking

Old thread: >>84447987
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Based OP
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>>84455516
How you pronounce tanchjim?
Tea-ank-Jim?
Tank-Jim?
Tank-him?
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>>84455652
Taнч-жим.
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>>84455652
Tank-heem?
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>>84455652
B minus techs jim
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spent the better part of last evening in the hospital. i was using the triple flange on my etymotic er2xr and the last shell broke off as i was taking it out of my ear. it was stuck in my canal so deep you couldn't see it without a earscope. after an hour of the ER doc jamming whatever fucking tool he could find in my ear to try and fish it out and failing miserably the angel of a nurse suggested a water flush. thank god she was there because that worked well enough after 4 flushes that the tip became visible and easily pulled out. i guess that's the price you pay for the best seal on the market.

i'm retiring those.

taking this as an opportunity to try the new moondrop kato, should be in a couple weeks.
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>>84455773
Sweatdrop FATO
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>>84455825
based katobro
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>>84455832
I'm going to listen to Miku first once they arrive. U copin hard bro
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>>84455855
>once they arrive
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>>84455882
le trashjim owner faec
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IRL they get on great
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>>84455923
The fatty doesn't actually hate tanchjim, he hates the man behind it.
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Best IEMs to counteract ear imbalance?
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So now I see... when I posted myself saying "show me the mele physique" I was literally btfo'ing the timeless fatty. You absolutely needed to cling on the gyno theory for your own sanity, bit now I've deconstructed your whole internet fatsona. You can still cut your losses and cancel Kato's tho.
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>>84456076
>You can still cut your losses and cancel Kato's tho.
Grief stage: bargaining
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Really Diggin the KORG DS-DAC-10R

Really warm smooth and bassy sound. My Hiby R3 sabre pro is just too bright.

After some experimenting I much prefer the sound of the Tube phono compared to the KORG phono. Finally ripped my fist LP in DSD128 !

https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6141090
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>>84456107
>buy a shittymdac that skews bright
>buy an shitty amp that skews warm
Ever tried of listening to something that is true to flat like the Apple dongle zishabo?
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>>84456107
I am still btfo by the fact that Bill Paxton was their singer.
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wireless earbuds with good sound and build quality? im willing to spend around 150
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>>84456310
>wireless earbuds with good sound
404
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>>84456320
im using EO-EG900BW so my standards are low. just give me something
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>>84456107
The way you have that stuff strewn across the kitchen table is very uncomfy
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>>84456344
galaxy buds 2
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>>84456344
Apple AirPods 3
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>>84456107
I've been eyeing that for quite a while. How's the software? I saw a number of complaints about it and I think it's required for DSD recording.
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>>84456374
>>84456352
ty i was avoided these two big name brands specifically because i assumed i can get better value out of lesser known ones. Since i have a samsung, their buds might be it though
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>>84456588
Get tanchjim echo
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>>84455736
кaкoгo хyя ты тyт дeлaeшь?
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>>84456604
Stop being morally invested with a company only because you made the mistake of buying Tanchjim Oxygen.
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>>84456651
Stop being fat
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>>84456660
Cut the losses and move on. Be a smart boy next time and buy something like the Kato so you won't wallow in regret.
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>>84456690
Oink!
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>>84456604
>sound so bad she regret spending 100 bocks on it and started crying
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>>84456690
The Kato is a fat girl's iem though, it takes a lot of oestrogen to handle all that shout.
Exhibit 1: You
Exhibit 2: Crin
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earphones gave me tinnitus
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>>84456749
Donut do this to me nuratranny
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>>84456790
Every single Tanchjim IEM is more shouty that the Kato. Refer to FR graphs.
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>>84456819
It sounds shouty do the extra weight mass resonating like jell-o
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>>84455652
ch as in fetch. Tanch-djim.
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>>84456834
It was real in your mind.
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darlings > oxygen
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>>84456840
Sure?
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>>84456819
Sounds like you would be just as happy with them then. Sure you're not a closet Tranchjim?
>mfw the graphs are identical
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>>84456803
post eardrums
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>>84456858
It's actually Oxygen < Campfire Audio IO < Moondrop Starfield
It has been confirmed by esteemed experts
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>>84456887
Lemme guess, he ends up eating the dog
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>>84456898
>>84456858
All me.

>enable id's or flags
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>>84456903
kek
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>>84456894
That dip at 4k on the 02s would actually make them less shouty/stabby/metallic
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>>84456858
owning both your right but the darling is out of budget for a lot of people.
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>>84456934
He's some 18yo 600 pound neet, its like arguing with a pidgeon really.
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>>84456894
That smooth Kato graph is truly a beauty to behold. Not looking good for trashjim lineup at all.
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>>84455736
Бaзиpoвaннo и кpacнoтaблeтoчнo
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>>84456934
>that dip at 4k on the 02s
BAD news for you sonny
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>>84455825
well I'm never getting etys after reading that horror story
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we call this "inverse treble dip" at tranchjim
really opens up the soundstage, it's like you're there
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Crinamutt?
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>every Kato graph is different
Nice sample variance
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>>84457125
They made sure of that with their patented driver mismatching system
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reminder to filter tripfags
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>>84457041
>>84456991
Holy shit that looks horrible. Ordered the KATO, thanks.
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I just fell for the external DAC meme, any good DSD tracks that you recommend to get the snake oil pumping?
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>posting iems from other people and claiming them as his own
What did the poorfag tranchjim shill mean by this?
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>moondrop kay-toh
is it pronounced taynchjim haynay?
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>>84457652
he's mentally ill if you haven't noticed already
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How is the NW-A55 as a DAC? I saw that it has a usb mode to PCs
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>>84457706
no peq = trash
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>>84457709
Yeah, seeing as my laptop only has type-C and needs an adaptor it'd probably be less than optimal
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Is it worth getting any model of the samsung galaxy buds? I'm not a big audiophile or anything and prefer having wireless earbuds when using my phone. I currently have these Beats using with my galaxy s9. The problems are when I turn this shit on it pops a notification prompt on any nearby Apple devices saying to pair. At random moments the audio would straight cut out for a solid minute unless I manually turn them off/on.
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>>84457917
I have galaxy buds 2, they're pretty nice, much better than the rayconns I had. They pair really easily with a samsung phone or tablet
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>>84455516
Looking for a cheap BT dac/amp, I can either get the FiiO BTR3k or the EarStudio ES100 for about the same price on Amazon UK (about £70 for ES100, BTR3k is a bit cheaper, like £64) or pay a bit more (£90) for the BTR5. FiiO BTR5 seems nice but seems like it might be a bit heavy to clip on to clothing etc, and I don't really care too much about having the best sound/most power. Qudelix 5K is currently not available on Amazon here and too expensive on eBay. One thing I like about ES100 is that apparently you can have multiple user EQ presets within the app. I need something with a good mic for phonecalls too. Was looking at TWS before but they all seem to be way overpriced vs what you get with a BT dac. Anyone got any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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Is there a recessed 2-pin converter or adapter or something? I honestly cant get the Fiio UTWS3s to stay connected to anything
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>>84458177
theres these
https://www.amazon.com/OEAudio-MMCX-0-78mm-Adapter-Clear/dp/B07XPF1BL5/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=OEAudio&qid=1637812160&sr=8-2&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/OEAudio-0-78mm-2pin-Adapter-Clear/dp/B07XKWJ7JM/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=OEAudio&qid=1637812160&sr=8-3&th=1
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>>84458127
Also besides being stuck with one sound signature, what bothers me about TWS are potential fit issues vs using wired IEMs I already have, I mean even if they are comfortable, the potential risk of one wireless earbud randomly falling out my ear and getting lost seems fairly high (something I've heard about numerous times anyway). Just seems like using a BT DAC/AMP gives you almost everything TWS does and more, even if it's a bit more hassle with the cable and whatnot. Trouble is I can't decide which BT dac to get. I'm on a budget and want the best compromise between price and functionality basically.
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>>84458267
Thanks, this is definitely a step in the right direction but I need a standard 0.78 2pin to recessed/sunken 2pin
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>>84457917
The Buds, Buds Pro and Buds 2 are apparently pretty good.
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>>84458004
Yeah thats exactly what made me consider it, it has atleast 8hrs of battery without the case. Since you own a pair do you get signal drops? If so how often?
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>>84458342
I haven't had any drops, but I exclusively use them with a newer Samsung phone or tablet so that's probably a factor.
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>>84456127
>massively poor attempt at troll

>>84456166
mang its such a kino album Bill Paxton respect rip

>>84456347
You are an idiot. sitting down at the table to listen to records is how you do it. It lets you effort flip through a whole pile without having to get up out of your chair. Its also flat and well dampened.

>>84456416
audiogate is kinda clunky and like using windows XP. Its required for the phono functionality.

because i am using the external tube phono and recording a line in there are many more options for DSD capturing software. Also its sound is really growing on me as DAC / headphone amp. Build is 9/10 and recording quality is 9.5/10.
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>>84458396
Alright sick, signal drops have been driving me crazy as of late. I know im asking tons of annoying questions but this should be the last one: How do they stay in your ear? The reason im afraid of going true wireless is because they dont look like they stay in your ear.
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>>84458483
>they dont look like they stay in your ear.
You can go running or shake your head and they stay in. I have some foam tips on mine just because my ear canals are weird, but even with the stock they felt pretty comfy and secure.
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AirPod pros are 159.99$ for Black Friday.
How good are they really? If I want something totally wireless what should I buy if not airpod pros
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>>84458553
>How good are they really?
Not great. I find that airpods and other cheaper buds like Rayconn are acceptable for podcasts and youtube but suck for music compared to less expensive wired buds
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bros... am i still allowed to like the mele
yes it has shit details at its price but i really like the tuning tbqhwyfam
any iems with similar tuning but better detail?
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>>84458568
How comfortable they are compared to traditional iem. Is the no nozzel design and big vent help make it feel less stuffed in the ear? I might get it for comfort alone. Looking for something that feel more or less like half in ear but have actual low end.
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Nwa-65 when?
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Lots of utubers shill for the earfun free pro and it's slightly discounted? Any anon tried it? Is it worth the price or should I go with something cheaper?
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>>84458644
>>84458553
>>84458568
I did a tiny bit more research and what hifi recommends the sony wf-1000xm3

What does /iemg/ + /pmp/ think about those?
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>>84458469
>because i am using the external tube phono and recording a line in there are many more options for DSD capturing software
Good to know, thanks. I wasn't planning to use the onboard phono pre.
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shit won't go on

I thought the crystals were meant to fit the b2d like the xelastics?
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>>84458680
Despite all of the problem it have under it's sleeve I still kinda liked it.
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>>84455516
I can get KZ ZEX Pro at $23.38. Should I get it now or on black friday sale?
I got the normal zex in 11.11 already but thinking of giving ut away if I get the pro one and like the sound of it.
Absolutely loved the sound of zex. Not even considering how absurdly cheap it is
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>>84458680
I don't know but I wouldn't trust What Hifi, I think they just shill expensive stuff. incidentally Crinacle did a good video on rating systems recently and how most of these site's ratings basically mean nothing. I mean I'm sure those sonys sound nice and all, sony makes good headphones/iems. But yeah probably best to just read some real reviews from people who actually bought them rather than hifi website 'reviews'
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>>84458941
Push harder.
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>>84459226
do you have them????

a guy told me to use a hair drier but it still wont fit
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>>84458553
If you want gimmicks and sub par tws audio get airpods, if you want top quality audio but no gimmicks (except anc) get pic related. Protip get tennmak 4.9mm foam tips for perfection.
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How's the durability of the Sonata HD Pro? My DC02 got messed up and looking for a replacement.
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>>84459461
Those look awesome. Could you post something which has reviews showing how those outperform airpod pros?
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>>84457371
Oof christ some of them are annoying.
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>>84459636
His pic is Cambridge audio iirc
Kz zsn pro x outperform airpods pro
>>84459617
Post discord link tranny
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>>84459461
I cannot, nobody has done a shootout with the melomania 1+ and the airpods pro. I have both and i no longer use my airpods pro because the melomania is just better. I will tell you i am a huge bass head and overall dislike neutral sounds iems.
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>>84459681
meant for
>>84459636
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>>84459461
Post graph.
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my local guys is taking too long to get the timeless in so i just ordered one fron the chinjs direct. while waiting for that to come, i decided to dig these out of the mountain of boxes and put them on again. still btfo a lot of the stuff i use in imaging and resolution. then i realized these are open. it's not really a dair comparison.

still, the timeless better blow my fucking my mind.

as a sidenote, i bought a lightning to usb-c audio dongle to use with the cipher cable. amazon says it'll arrive tomorrow.
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>>84459092
Now
>>84459592
Good
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>>84459092
where are you seeing it so cheap?
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>>84459671
I always see people recommending the KZ ZSN Pro X these days, aren't they way too bright sounding? I remember a bunch of people on head fi complaining that they were treble cannons, and those guys in the KZ thread over there like their over-boosted treble...
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>>84459963
Use equalizer
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What the fuck is he listening to?
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>>84460001
huwey lewis and the news, duh
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>>84460001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPHudTWp-gM
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>>84460001
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPHudTWp-gM
true sigma male anthem
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Timeless sounds like shit without EQ. Too much bass and low mids making it sound like muffled shit. If I didn't find out about AutoEQ I would have major buyer's remorse.
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>>84458127
There are no user EQ presets on es100 as far as I can tell, just loads of factory presets. The only fancy thing it does is let you switch the Q factor from 1.4 to 0.7 if you want a wider cut or boost at a particular point. PR is 1.4. The mic is fine though, and they are tough. Have used mine daily for 3 years and still going strong, battery included.
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>>84460359
Ah ok, damn, it would've been nice to have different custom EQ presets for different IEMs. Build quality was one of my main concerns vs the BTR5. Think I'll probably go for the ES100 then, as it's cheaper and more compact. One thing, does it work well as a USB DAC? Not essential, but that would be a great feature to have. Thanks!
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>>84459992
Are they really that bright though? I could use EQ but wouldn't want them if that's the only way to make them tolerable
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>>84459816
Nigga you are on a computer, google it yourself. I dont look at graphs, i buy the shit and use it.
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>>84460410
It is fine as a USB DAC, you may have to switch to 48khz on some phones in order to avoid clicking, other than that it's remarkably stable. BT range is pretty good as well, varies a bit depending on what's transmitting. The only issues I've had are in really congested areas like Waterloo station in rush hour, or if I've been switching connections between devices a lot (I have 4 separate sources I use with it) it occasionally needs a restart.
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>>84460410
Also, if you do get it, switch off all the proprietary stuff like jitter cleaner and DCT etc >>84460932
I messed up the s/s, here's what I meant re. Usb
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>>84460932
>>84460949
Okay, gonna buy it, thanks for the info!
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Remember to be humble.
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Should I buy anything of this BF Ali safe? I already have Kato's on the way so...
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found this guide for cables

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1YNuslYM4CrhMPrOLofzTm4ei7HEfP8AI1zxswrMw2ho/htmlview#
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>>84457652
>>84457688
>fatcel talking with himself again
Never claimed they were mine pig , just took it from tancjjims facebook, keep comfort eating virgin
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>>84461584
You don't have iems.
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>>84461595
*oink*
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>>84461613
You literally don't have iems schizo. Feel free to post a timestamped photo to prove me wrong.
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>>84461622
>*restless pig noises*
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>>84461637
posting your husband won't wiggle you out of this
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Can you guide him?
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>>84461651
Might post the timestamp later when im at home (uh oh bedridden trigger alarm) if you keep squealing strong enough.

Cry for me pig!
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>>84461667
>BLM
>Mele
checks out
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Moondrop just can't catch a break
Why can't they design working filters?
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thinking of getting ER2XR but i have a really bad wax buildup which might get impacted. anyone here with waxy ears use etymotic?
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>>84461821
refer to >>84455825
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>>84461751
I'm the last person to defend Moondrop QC but this looks like user damage, and Shenzhen are replacing the unit for free. Could be a lot worse.
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>>84461751
>>84461828
Or is he saying this was on a brand new unit?
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>>84461826
wow. ive never heard of ear tips breaking off like that. what about the foam tips?
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>>84461828
He tried to replace arias filters and pushed one too hard with tweezers so it fell down the nozzle
Katobros are thankfully free of such headaches
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>>84461838
>pull the iem out
>foam tip slips from the stem and is buried deep inside your ear
no thanks
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>>84461751
>new and already chipped all over
Mooncucks please
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>>84461869
you're the mooncuck
don't you own chipfields?
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So now it is completely concluded that the Fatty has been the retard shilling meles, quarks etc.

What will the community do now to weed out the cancerous troll?
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Oh no melenigger was fat cuck all along!
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>>84461970
stop stalking that poor obese canadian, schizo
audio might be his only escape from hardships of incel life
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>>84461989
I can't, this is too funny. He has posted 100+ pics on this page. They are all comedy gold, should I make a Teighan general at this point?
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I'm thinking about getting the Linsoul KZ ZS10 Pro with a Fiio X1.
Any thoughts?
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>>84462060
Any money spent on KZ is money wasted
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>>84462067
What else to get for ~50€?
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>>84462082
Tin Hifi T2+
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Is he mentally ill?
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>>84462161
mental illness runs rampant in Canada
it is considered the norm there
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>>84461751
>Why can't they design working filters?
i don't know but i'm getting tired of putting them back on the dusks, just ordered another set >>84461468

>>84455825
>>84457015
i have seen this happen before, unironically should just hot glue the tips or something

>>84461821
>i have a really bad wax buildup
go to doctor
they can give you a water flush or if your lucky they have an ear vacuum that does a way better job

>>84461970
>>84461981
does this guy actually post here? i am tired of seeing his fat face
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>>84462217
>does this guy actually post here?
no but a spic who's fallen in love with him does
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>>84462228
>resident troll scared of being removed like a tumor
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>>84461981
>listens only to nigger music and spiderman movies
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So it's this the best meme-for-buck ratio for that price? I currently have blon 03 and looking to upgrade/experience something else.
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>>84462465
Buy Tin T3 plus
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>>84455832
Source on pic?
>>84455825
First one to get the kato here, let us know how good it is :)
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>>84459671
Come child VwsEghBS
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>>84459671
Theres no one there, just fatty and 3 nerds, no vk4ruskie, nura, cecilia, gyno etc
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>>84462555
I have the t2 and t3. T3 always sounds fuzzy and indistinct to me. Maybe I got a bad set but they just got no tone to them. The t2 are better but sometimes harsh sounding.
Moondrop blessing2 is what I listen to pretty much exclusively but I still like the t2. Shit if I saw you I'd just give you my t3. They're useless to me.
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>>84462827
Have it occurred to you that T2/T3 and T2+/T3+ may have little to nothing in common? You're kind of guy who buys Sennheiser HD599 and expects it to sound close to HD600, right?
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>>84462856
>Sennheiser HD599 and expects it to sound close to HD600, right?
it's just a single decimal away how different it can be
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>>84462856
Keep toxicity to a minimum fatto
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>>84462956
shut the fuck up spic
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>>84455516
What are the general price brackets that IEMs ought to be broken up into?

In case it's not clear what I mean by price brackets: for example, assuming your current IEM costs $50, how much would you have to spend on your next IEM to get a genuine upgrade on it as opposed to a mere sidegrade?
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>>84462977
Usually double the price of your current one for the roughly the same tonality.
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>>84462961
>
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>>84463017
i understand your frustration but you'd do well to keep shut if you have nothing of substance to contribute
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>>84463028
*agitated pig noises*
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>>84462977
Sub $50, 200, 500 & 1000 are the competitive price points for me (and $2k, theoretically)
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>>84462680
Everyone except nura is there, mass cope.
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>>84462856
I know they're sonically different. I'd heard good things about it so I thought I'd try it out.
Chill out bratan.
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>>84463139
*lying pig noises*

ruskie/cecilia/nura already told they weren't there fatnon, high blood pressure is doing a number on you
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>>84462856
Cancerous faggot
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>>84463277
Piggy aint there
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>>84463396
I guarantee you that the teighan was the one autistically fixating on your double chin
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>>84461632
Based
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>eq treble down
>that would be 150 bucks
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>>84455516
VK4 is the best wea
FUCK MOONDROP
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Stop posting pigs. I'm trying to eat.
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>>84463585
Ok sorry I will keep it down to a minimum, I have some spicy ones ready in case of a toxic outbreak
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>>84463585
who will be my boogeyman now?
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>>84463685
Anyone badmouthing my beloved Tanchjim O2.
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>>84456894
The thumbnail made it look like someone overlaid a response over Route 66 or something
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>>84463685
you are my burgerman alright
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Teighan is so toxic he's sending his mom to an early grave :(
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so i'm planning to upgrade from the bl-03's to the sundaras, how big would the jump be in sound quality be? coming from someone whos never tried headphones or iems above $25 before
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>>84463755
My prayers for Shelley Clott.
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>>84463794
My prayers too... jewish prayers!
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>>84463788
>how big would the jump be in sound quality be?
Like going from getting a $10 blowie behind a bar for blacks gents to having a nice Italian dinner with a high class female (male) escort.
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>>84463870
So, a cheap orgasm versus expensive prick teasing?
Seriously, who the fuck takes escorts to dinner. I'm seriously worried about you.
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>>84463788
it's a downgrade because Sundaras have trash planar timbre
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>>84463975
A lot of people, but yeah its pathetic and evident, well if youre a crusty old man why not
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Why do crin hates KZ? He said everything sounds the same and shit but my ZEX sounds way different and better than my ZSN Pro and EDX.
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>>84464207
KZ cant afford the lip service
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>>84464207
KZ doesn't pay him ofc
In fact they shit on him.
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>>84464301
>>84464234
>>84464207
what if they all are different shades of mediocre shit?
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>>84464332
I dont even own KZ, but surely eclipse will be similar enough
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>>84464344
FiiO is upmarket KZ so fair point
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https://youtu.be/ZH_5S9ukbiA
>open video
>look at the top of his head
>close video
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What DAC+AMP for iems would you guys recommend until 150?
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>>84464207
Who the fuck cares about that? lol
Just enjoy your music
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>>84464207
Because he hates anything that has good QC.
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>>84464425
I would accept a traditional DAC+AMP too, but I think I can't get anything acceptable at this price point.
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>>84464332
Now apply that to every chink iem
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>>84463755
Press P for prayer
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>>84464301
>In fact they shit on him.
Where did they shit on him? That would be funny to see.
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>>84464207
He will compliment them when they are tuned right but that's not the case here. Just look at his bold VK4 evaluation being the best under $50.
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>>84465172
And with A+ tonality making it relevant till $200.
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>>84464425
Qudelix
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Looking for IEMs
>Budget
100$
>Source
Phone
>Location
Scandinavia
>Kind (in-ears or earbuds)
in-ears
>Sound Signature
I like breakcore, hip hop, punk rock, and post-punk. I don't know much about sound signature, hope the genres listed helps.
>Past gear and your thoughts on them (important!)
I've had the HiFiMan RE-600 before, but the cable was really bad quality and broke. The sound was not the best either.
I use HD-600's for my daily desktop usage, I like the audio quality and the sound signature of it.

Thanks!
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>>84459092
i did the do, it got even cheaper... Official KZ Store, South Korea
what am i in for?
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>>84465790
BASED
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>>84465224
>A+ tonality
Not anymore
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>>84465862
Look after your vk4 classics anons
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>>84465862
OH NONONO I knew I had to grab spare sets but I thought why? Its not like they are gonna discontinue it..
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>>84465770
NF Audio NM2. Technically capable dynamic driver, sounds good from any source, durable shell, great qc, fit and accessoires.
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>>84465790
1000 treble peaks
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Why the fuck Variationsfag received his package in 10 days and I have to wait forever for my Katos to arrive fuck fuck fuck fuck fucklgterd;lgkerd;lgker;lkhe
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>>84466320
Because you have to buy them to receive them, silly.
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>>84466327
your cope is getting old
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>>84466342
Your schizophrenia is getting old.
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>>84466351
will you finally off yourself once they arrive?
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>>84465862
Not my problem. It's been shill here dozens of time since last year with FR to reference. I pity those who won't have the chance to try their old variant.
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>>84466362
I'll laugh at you for buying an overpriced Aria and then I'll laugh at you AGAIN when its filters get clogged.
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>>84466387
yep, still coping hard
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>>84466391
Still not taking meds.
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>>84466399
Why would I need meds? I'm not the one insinuating
https://youtu.be/8GWv1ffPpiQ?t=1438
this sounds the same. Maybe YOU should take your meds, start with ear drops you dumb deaf motherfucker
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>>84466429
Sounds exactly the same. Take meds.
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>>84466436
this is the kind of imbeciles I have to endure here
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>>84466429
>Sound demo
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Fun fact: Castratis (singers castrated at a young age) usually grew above 6.4+ feet due to the lack of hormones regulating the halt of growth.

So if you are abnormally tall, something like 6.6 feet there might be a testosterone issue with you
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>>84466451
is your post a cope demo or is it the full course?
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>>84466445
Meds help with that.
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>>84466461
if you think sound demos are worth anything other than crude comparisons of overall tone then you are literally brain-dead.
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>>84466461
kek
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>>84466478
Did Aria and Kato sound the same on that demo?
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>>84466499
i don't click on sound demos, retard.
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>>84466488
>>84466461
dont samefag fatto
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Imagine literally losing sanity over not being able to afford an entry level IEM with worse tonality than vk4. Damn.
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>>84466503
Then why are you wasting my time? If you're confirmation biased to the point of explicidly avoiding information that is hazardous to your retarded preconceptions then your words are worthless, you're barely human.
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>>84466457
oh nonono say it aint so
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>>84466457
A manlet having a meltdown, completely unprompted.
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>>84466527
i don't know what point you're trying to make, and i couldn't possibly care less. you posted a sound demo, therefore you're a mental retard to be ignored.
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>>84466570
Logic befitting of a midwit deep into his cope.
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>>84466568
185 cm im okay with that fatto, tho you should check your test levels fr, being morbid releases a lot of oestrogen
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>>84466457
>>84466530
Stop samefagging, he'll never be your husband.
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>>84466587
>185 cm
It was real in your mind.
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>>84466589
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>>84466602
lmao you need prove of everything yet you cant even post a kato, go make shelley a dinner or something man
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>>84466611
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>>84466611
He's supposed to be against kato, know your schizo act.
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>>84466581
cope? what am i coping about? you posted a sound demo. you're a sound demo retard to be dismissed and ignored. whatever other shit you're claiming might be right and it might be wrong, but after i see you post a sound demo i don't care because the sound demo means you're an idiot.
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>>84466645
>you're a sound demo retard to be dismissed and ignored
because?
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Anyone heard any buzz on the Galaxy Buds Pro going for $100 on BF anywhere?
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>>84466655
I don't what turned you into a sound demo retard, childhood malnutrition probably.
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>>84466641
The teighan folder has been made, no deflections now sweaty
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>>84466655
because sound demos are retarded and only retards think they demonstrate the sound of a headphone. sound demos can show you things like "this model has noticeably more bass than that model" but nothing more meaningful than that. if you're trying to compare two models with very similar tuning, then the differences in the sound demo sound are entirely down to defects in the sound demo setup.
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>>84466663
Why can't you explain it?
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>>84466674
>because sound demos are retarded
great argument mr totally not a retard
>sound demos can show you things like "this model has noticeably more bass than that model"
this and much more
>if you're trying to compare two models with very similar tuning, then the differences in the sound demo sound are entirely down to defects in the sound demo setup.
prove it
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>>84466691
lardy ass
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>>84466691
a fascinating glimpse inside the "mind" of a sound demo retard.
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>>84466710
so you pulled an assertion out of your ass and sre unable to prove it, that's too bad
are you sure you in position to call anything retarded?
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>>84466720
Hmmmmm, let me think that one through
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>>84466720
you're beyond hope, but i'm sure there are some new people here who would like to know.

a sound demo is the sound of the coloration of three pairs of transducers added together: the headphones being "demonstrated", the microphones used to record them, and the headphones used to reproduce the "demo". there may also be additional coloration added to that in the form of "compensation", but the sound demo does not in any way demonstrate the sound of the headphones. through the incredible coloration of the sound demo setup, it can show crude differences in overall tone, but nothing nuanced. it certainly cannot show any difference in transient response, given the two layers of additional transducers covering that up, to say nothing of the effects of (stifling laughter) 128 kbps LAVC AAC from the youtube encoding you posted, plus whatever else was upstream of that before it was uploaded.

no, sound demos don't demonstrate the sound. yes, you're retarded if you think they do. actually, legitimately, diagnosably mentally retarded.
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We should run the poll for favorite /iemg/ schizo again, we have new strong contenders like the morbid schizo and cryptorichfag
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>>84466781
You're completely missed the point altogether which is unbefitting of someone who feels he's in position to call anything retarded. Let me lay it out in simplest terms so even a man of middling wits such as yourself can understand the topic at hand
1. IEM A and IEM B were recorded through the same microphone, applied the same compensation onto and these recordings were presented in a sound demo
2. IEM A and IEM B sound different in the sound demo played back through the same transducer
Your assertion is that the sonic differences between A and B come majorly from the
> entirely down to defects in the sound demo setup
whatever the fuck that means in your cope ridden mind
INSTEAD of the actual sonic differences between IEM A and B.
You have to prove it. None of what you written so far has is related in any way to proving that point.
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Should I just buy headphones if I have small earholes and the IEMs won't stay perfectly still in my ears when I move my head around?
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>>84466861
600 pounds of anger
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>>84466873
What do you mean small? How small can you ears be if there are very small eartips exist?
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>>84466889
I don't know. I'm using the smallest stock tips which come with the Moondrop Aria. I think it's considered medium size? Anyway they don't stay still in position if I move my head around. I don't know if it's actually because they're too small now that I think about it.
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>>84466861
i can't stop laughing at this, holy fuck you're a cretin.
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>>84466924
The main who cried retard the most was the biggest retard all along. Imagine my shock.
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>>84466933
you can just make your arguments without the sound demo bullshit, you know? at least then you'd stand a chance. the moment you post a sound demo, the conversation becomes entirely about laughing at how retarded you are.
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>>84466947
>let's dismiss this evidence because.....let's just do it, ok? I FEEL it is wrong
That's not how it works bucko
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>>84466889
Ok so I think the thing is my right ear has a larger earhole than the left. I put a larger tip on it and I think it fits better. They're just supposed to rest on the earholes right? Like you're not supposed to fully jam them in right?
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>>84466933
As we get closer to the unrule beast, we can't see it doesn't actually leave its gaming chair to perform basic needs such as walking, excercising, showering, etc. Instead this creatures of weight will occupy their time with having the last word in anonymous basket weaving forums.
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>>84466781
>128 kbps LAVC AAC
It's probably the Opus in most browsers, which is even more hilarious because the last octave of treble is literally mostly synthesized by band folding.
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How fat is too fat?
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>>84467015
Over 25 bmi
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>>84466965
You're supposed to create a seal otherwise the sound will be fucked up, no bass for example. Experiment with eartips and insertion depth until you get a seal.
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>>84467023
If teighan is 1 how much is that? 0.4?
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>>84466965
>Like you're not supposed to fully jam them in right?
you're supposed to j-j-jam it in so that the eartip fully occludes your ear canal.
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>>84467034
Ok I think the issue was that the tips were too small then. The larger ones help but I think these might be too small as well. I might have the opposite problem of what I thought I had.
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So I'm looking for in ears around 300-400 USD, but I guess black friday will stir shit up.
I work in a warehouse so ANC would be really nice, and I'm looking for a similar feature that the airpods have, which can put through speech/important shit when needed.
I live in west Europe, mostly listen to metal and EDM.
I have a 4.50BTNC which I use daily (and like) but its not the best to use during work.
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>>84467007
fatty can't see the truth
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Is it real in his head?
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>>84466429
Kato doesn't even exist. It's aria vs aria played 0.2dB louder.
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>>84467571
>please give me attention
You poor boy :(
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>>84467552
who of our fellow schizos is that?
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Brb. Gonna grab a snack and I will be back with you to defend KATO
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>>84467637
I am willing to bet these fatties are dead.
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>DLC
KXXS
Kanas Pro
KATO
Yuan Li
FD3
FD5
FDX1
Falcon Pro

>LCP
Aria
Hana
Illumination
T3 plus

>CNT
Oxygen
T4
Starfield
BL-05


Interesting.
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>>84467615
Nobody important
He will arrive shortly
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>>84455832
SOURCE ON THE IMAGE ANON???
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>>84464207
A lot of the early hybrid models KZ (I think their single DDs were generally pretty good for how ridiculously cheap they were, besides build quality/QC anyway) made were tuned like shit, like V shaped to the point of mids being practically non existent with crazy ear piercing treble spikes, like the ZSR which I think were mainly popular with older folks who have hearing loss and perceive the crazy boosted treble as 'detail'. It wasn't until quite recently that KZ started making actually really good IEMs with proper tuning (like ZEX, DQ6 was pretty good too from what I've heard) and better build quality, so I think Crin and some other people just got a bad first impression and seem to be unwilling to give KZ another chance which is a shame, because they now probably represent some of the best value for money performance in lower end chi-fi.
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>>84462161
For what it's worth I agree with his assessment of the Monk Lite vs the Plus (well, regarding comfort anyway, to this day I don't get what people mean by 'sweeter mids' or 'sweeter treble'). All earbuds are pretty crap though vs IEMs, impossible to get a good enough seal with them to be able to hear sub bass.
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>>84467660
They are in fattie heaven which looks exactly the same as that pic
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>>84467728
>fatty triples down and keeps going
diamond like carbon is a fucking meme used only by moondrop retard
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>>84468462
moondrop derangement syndrome
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>>84468495
when a fedorafag becomes an audiophile disaster ensues
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>>84468530
What material is Yuan Li's diaphragm made of?
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>>84468462
And come to think of it, his hairline is extremely low and dense, just like the Castratis with no testicles, that had no DHT to trigger hair loss

Coincidence?
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I don't get the past 2 threads. Is timeless fatty supposed to be a katofag?
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>>84468579
schizophrenic imagination knows no bounds
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>>84468579
yes
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>>84468595
>What material is Yuan Li's diaphragm made of?
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>>84468612
whats that?
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>>84468640
An IEM that uses higher quality parts than the O2
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>>84468662
Sure. Care to explain this young man? Why do you watch hentai on facebook?
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>>84468675
you should write him a love letter
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>>84468714
In your dreams
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>>84468733
he seems like a perfect match for you so why not
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>>84468733
A 5'10 femboy like you should be right up his valley.
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>>84468748
Castrati/10
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>>84468749
>>84468748
>>84468714
>>84468662
>>84468579
>>84468593
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How's the Sony NWA-55 with Mr Walkman mod?
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>>84468841
Still no PEQ.
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new thread

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>>84468955
>>84468955



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